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advances in the science of water purification involves

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beetles, sort of, and is out of the

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way. Apple really not paying OpenAI for

2:01

access to its AI models in iOS

2:03

18? We're going to break it down. This

2:11

is the Daily Tech News for Thursday, June 13,

2:13

2024. From

2:16

Studio Animal House, I'm Sarah Lane. From

2:19

Columbus, Ohio, I'm Rob Dunwood. From

2:21

Deep in the Heart of Texas, I'm Justin Robert Young. And

2:24

I'm the show's producer, Roger Chan. We've

2:26

got a good show for you all

2:28

today. And we're going to start that

2:30

show off with the quick hits. Yahoo

2:35

debuted a new version of the

2:37

Yahoo News app powered by Underline

2:40

Code from the Artifact News Reader

2:42

app, which Yahoo acquired back in

2:44

April. You might recall that Artifact

2:46

launched back in 2023 by Instagram

2:48

co-founders Kevin Systrom and Mike Krieger.

2:51

Artifact is now part of the

2:53

Yahoo News app and makes heavy

2:55

use of AI using algorithms to

2:57

serve its readers highly personalized content

2:59

based on what news stories they

3:01

engage with and have engaged with

3:03

in the past. The Yahoo News

3:05

app is currently free on both Android

3:07

and iOS. WhatsApp

3:10

updated its video calling experience across devices

3:12

by introducing screen sharing with audio support

3:14

and a new speaker spotlight feature. WhatsApp

3:17

is also increasing the limit of video

3:19

call participants up to 32 people and

3:22

will now also allow users to have

3:24

up to 32 people on a single

3:26

video call across devices. Prior to this

3:29

update, WhatsApp had a 32 participant limit

3:31

on mobile devices, but Windows and Mac

3:33

OS users could only use 16 and

3:35

8 participants respectively.

3:39

Japan's parliament enacted a law

3:41

on Wednesday aimed at promoting

3:43

competition in smartphone app store

3:45

sales by restricting Apple and

3:47

Google from limiting third-party companies

3:49

from selling and operating apps

3:52

on their platforms. So the

3:54

new law prohibits iOS and

3:56

Android operating systems from preventing

3:58

the sale of apps. and

4:00

services that directly compete with the native

4:02

platform's own and will prohibit

4:05

Apple and Google from giving priority

4:07

to their own services in internet

4:09

search results. Amazon

4:12

Web Services has introduced Passkeys as

4:14

a new method for multi-factor authentication

4:16

and remind users that root AWS

4:18

accounts must enable MFA by the

4:20

end of July 2024. Passkeys

4:23

leveraged public key cryptography to sign

4:25

a challenge sent by the server

4:28

used for verifying the authentication attempt.

4:30

They are less vulnerable than one-time

4:32

passwords to phishing and man-in-the-middle attacks,

4:34

are syncable, and support multiple device

4:37

and OS architectures. Amazon says customers

4:39

can unlock Passkeys through Apple Touch

4:41

ID on the iPhone, Windows Hello

4:43

on Windows laptops, and other platforms

4:45

that support Passkeys. A

4:48

site called EpicDB that tracks titles in

4:51

the Epic Games library may have just

4:53

leaked a ton of upcoming games, as

4:55

first reported by WCCF

4:57

Tech. EpicDB was

5:00

taken offline shortly after it posted

5:02

information scraped from the Epic Games

5:04

Store catalog on Monday, but then

5:07

other publishers like Bethesda, Sega, Sony,

5:09

Square Enix, and others were included

5:11

in a series of screenshots posted

5:13

by a user on a Reset

5:16

Era forum, some under apparent code

5:18

games. Epic Games tells

5:20

the Verge, quote,

5:23

We released an update tonight so

5:26

third-party tools can't surface any new

5:28

published product titles from the Epic

5:30

Games Store catalog. All

5:35

right, everybody have some liquor

5:37

because we have to pour one

5:39

out for Jabra, who is exiting

5:42

the consumer earbuds business. This

5:45

was very, very surprising to me,

5:47

and here's why. So the announcement

5:49

from Jabra comes right at the

5:51

same time that it unveiled new

5:53

models of its earbuds, the Jabra

5:55

Elite 10 and Elite 8 active

5:58

earbuds that are due later this month. Look

6:00

good, sound good, you

6:02

know, everything seems good.

6:05

Peter Kollstrommer, CEO of Jabber's

6:07

parent company, GN, says

6:09

the decision to wind down

6:11

the earbuds business in general was, part

6:15

of our commitment to focus on attractive

6:17

markets where we can deliver profitable growth

6:19

and strong returns. So obviously, the earbud

6:21

market, not part of that. The

6:24

Jabber Elite consumer line will be

6:26

discontinued, as well as the talk,

6:28

which is the mono Bluetooth product

6:30

line. Back in 2023, late 2023 of last

6:32

year, Jabber

6:35

more or less pivoted the Elite

6:37

line towards the premium segment in

6:40

a move designed to compete with

6:42

Apple and Sony and Bose. And

6:44

there are others as well. Jabber

6:46

also says its target markets have

6:48

changed over time. The company

6:51

will reduce the inventory of

6:53

soon-to-be discontinued products over the rest of

6:55

the year. But again, parent company

6:57

GN says it will service and

6:59

support its devices for several

7:01

years. So if you want to

7:03

buy one of those new earbuds, I guess you have several

7:06

years from today. No

7:08

way that I would be willing to buy them

7:10

now, knowing that they're going to stop, you

7:13

know, making them. But I have to say,

7:15

I was kind of surprised by this because

7:17

I'm a fan of Jabber earbuds. I'm

7:20

looking at my, I'm looking at them right now. I

7:22

have the Jabber 75T Elite 75T, the Elite 85T, and

7:27

another pair of older ones. I just can't remember

7:29

what the name of them are, but I probably

7:31

6050, which is what I have. Yeah, so they

7:33

all work just fine. They do what they're supposed

7:35

to do. And I just assumed that they were

7:37

doing okay because they have repeat customers

7:39

like me. They go back and get them every couple years.

7:42

Yeah, but ultimately, this is a field

7:44

that has changed a lot. Not only

7:46

has it gotten more crowded at the

7:48

top end where you've had earbuds or

7:50

AirPods like I'm wearing right now that

7:52

have been tied closer and closer to

7:55

the hardware of the devices themselves, but

7:57

also we live in a post-wish

7:59

team. world where the concept of

8:02

wireless earbuds are very, very cheap.

8:04

So either at the top

8:06

end, it's closer tied in because it is

8:08

integrated with the hardware. At the low end,

8:10

you're not going to out-cheap the cheap stuff

8:12

that's out there in the market. So if

8:15

you're in the mushy middle, it's

8:17

hard. It's hard for something

8:19

that needs to come in at a certain level

8:22

price-wise to make it worth your while. But

8:25

those margins are evaporating unless you're at

8:27

the absolute elite pinnacle and Jabra doesn't

8:30

feel like that's their market. Yeah,

8:32

back in, so I reviewed the

8:35

65Ts, the Jabras

8:39

for Live with It back in,

8:41

I think 2019. And at the

8:44

time, I mean, they were, I mean,

8:46

there were AirPods, but it

8:48

was, you know, to get

8:51

Jabra earbuds was like, okay, you know,

8:53

you care about audio quality and

8:55

form factor and all of that

8:57

stuff. And yeah,

8:59

it sort of seems like

9:01

Jabra was in that kind

9:04

of weird sweet spot of being directly

9:08

competing with Apple where, you

9:10

know, you can't win, or

9:12

just too expensive to compete

9:14

with the lower priced earbuds,

9:16

which there are many. Yeah,

9:22

I have had a lot of earbuds over the

9:24

years just because I tend to lose them. So

9:27

I've bought a lot, but you're right. My

9:30

kids and even my wife until I just got her

9:32

some really good ones that have ear loops on them.

9:35

So hopefully she won't lose them. They would

9:37

buy the cheapest one, I mean, $10, $15

9:39

online. And

9:42

then I think it's like, if they stop working or you know, you

9:44

sweat and what you know, one goes out, you just go and buy

9:46

another, you know, another pair for $10 or $15. So

9:49

I could see where if they are having

9:51

to compete at the high end with the

9:53

manufacturers named Apple and Samsung who make their

9:55

own, and then you've got the Bose and

9:57

the Sony that are kind of known for

9:59

quality. audio equipment, it would

10:01

be hard for them to compete. So

10:03

that makes sense, but I'm definitely pouring

10:05

one out because I have, I just

10:07

look, I have three pair that still

10:09

work and a four pair that one

10:11

works. The other one I'm assuming work. I

10:13

just don't know where it is. I lost it somewhere. Well,

10:16

let's, you're going to have service for another

10:18

couple of years. So, you know, you're good.

10:21

Let's also say we don't know the ins and outs

10:24

of this. This could, we're

10:26

assuming that it's just

10:28

the fact that they're sitting in the middle of the street

10:30

that they're getting run over. But this might be malfeasance from

10:32

the company that is trying to overestimate

10:34

another sector that's not going to come through

10:36

in the same way. That being

10:39

said, it is rare for a brand like

10:41

that to stay around. And it is a

10:43

bummer of our modern supply

10:45

chain challenged world that they couldn't,

10:47

they couldn't compete here. And

10:50

you know, you know, whether it's, I mean, it's

10:52

a bummer for the company, but for job would

10:54

be like new earbuds best

10:56

ever. And by the way, we're

10:58

winding this down. This

11:01

reminds me of when I

11:03

bought a Saab and then

11:06

the company was like, Oh, we don't

11:08

do that anymore. So enjoy. You

11:12

just have a car that won't

11:14

be serviced, you

11:16

know, unless you'd like pay like up

11:18

the seeing, you know, at some

11:20

third party. Anyway,

11:23

yeah. Still salty

11:25

about that. Okay, well, let's,

11:28

let's move on to Western

11:30

Africa. So along the coastal

11:33

desert of southwestern Africa lives

11:35

the Nemeb desert beetle. The

11:38

beetle gets its water from collecting water

11:40

droplets that form on its body from

11:43

the moisture in the air. You

11:45

might be saying, how in the heck is this

11:47

going to relate to tech? Rob,

11:50

take us in. Well, a

11:52

company you may have heard of car

11:54

water has designed a product that can collect

11:56

water from the air and purify for

11:58

drinking winning an innovation award. at CES

12:00

in 2023. There's a technology and the name

12:02

of the company is inspired by that very

12:05

same beetle. The name CARA is derived from

12:07

the beetle scientific name. Tom talked to the

12:09

founder of CARA water, Cody Soudin, who on

12:11

a word with Tom Merritt and they actually

12:14

talked about, you know, how this thing works.

12:16

So they broke it down and

12:18

I'm going to go ahead and listen now. So

12:20

tell me how CARA water works.

12:22

Like, how does the beetle do it,

12:25

that inspired this and how does

12:27

the machine that you've made do

12:29

it? Honestly, it's the

12:31

exact same process. It's super cool. And

12:34

the science behind this is called biomimicry.

12:36

It's replicating nature's function, not the

12:38

aesthetics. So like solar panels replicate

12:40

leaves, like photosynthesizing, right? Kind of

12:42

same concept. The

12:45

beetle has, if you look closely at

12:48

its shell, which is what I started researching after

12:50

learning about it, the shell of

12:52

the beetle has these little bumps and

12:54

these little valleys. The bumps have

12:56

a coating that's similar to the stuff that you

12:59

find in your shoe box, that little packet silica.

13:02

It naturally adapted to produce

13:04

silica on its shell. On the

13:06

valleys, it has something like Teflon. Do you know how

13:08

if you drop water in a Teflon pan, it just

13:10

beads up? It just beads up. Yeah. Right. So the

13:13

valleys have Teflon. So as the water sticks to the

13:16

bumps, it's not enough water to

13:18

become subject to gravity. But if

13:20

it breaks the surface tension of

13:22

that bump, it'll roll over

13:24

the Teflon area. So it just slides to

13:26

the next bump that has water and starts

13:28

to continue to collect as it's sliding over

13:30

these valleys, collecting on these bumps, eventually

13:32

forming enough water for the beetle to tip itself

13:35

over and do a handstand and drink the water

13:37

off its own back. So it really came down

13:39

to you like, wow, we have these natural materials

13:41

already available to us, Teflon and silica. We

13:43

don't have Teflon or something in our product, but

13:46

it's the concept of being able to capture the

13:48

water. How we extract it is what makes it

13:50

unique. We actually distill it off of the desiccants.

13:54

So we have to heat it to remove it,

13:56

which actually purifies the water because you're distilling it

13:58

now. We create this pseudo-stheme. And

14:00

then we recondense it with just a

14:02

natural airflow that caused the small temperature

14:05

differential to recondense it. And

14:07

then we collect that water and we sterilize it and

14:09

UV tanks and then add minerals back to it. So

14:12

that's how we get to the natural pH

14:15

of 9.2 high mineral rich water. And

14:17

then you just have 10 liters per day

14:19

meeting your home or your office. Does

14:22

it matter how humid an area you're in? I

14:24

imagine where I grew up in Southern Illinois, it

14:26

would work great in the summer, but what about

14:29

Arizona? Yeah, Arizona. That's the

14:31

quote that I mentioned of people saying

14:33

that it works in desert environments is

14:35

from Arizona. In Scottsdale, Arizona, one of

14:37

our most prominent, not

14:40

prominent, but very vocal customers. He

14:43

lives, I visited them. They live in the middle

14:45

of a desert. I couldn't tell you, it's nothing

14:47

else but a desert. He

14:50

has one at his house and at his office and he

14:52

just texted me the other day and he goes, hey, I've

14:54

had this, I've had car pure in my house for a

14:56

year now and I've never once run out of water. Great

14:59

testimony for Scottsdale, Arizona. And

15:01

I asked him just to really get some data. I said,

15:03

how much do you think that you and your family drink

15:06

per day? He goes about about three to five liters. I

15:08

go, have you ever run out? Has the machine like ever

15:10

said that it was empty after the other day? He's like,

15:12

no. So I put two and

15:14

two together and I was like, well, there must still

15:16

be some extra water in there after drinking for the

15:18

five liters, maybe another liter or two, meaning up to

15:20

seven liters per day. So in a desert environment, it

15:23

still operates at 70% efficient. There's

15:26

that much water even in a desert

15:29

air for it to extract. Well, I

15:31

would say it's the technology itself. It

15:33

has this ability to constantly extract water

15:35

from the air because of us keeping

15:37

it dry. We take out

15:39

the humidity or the saturation, so we

15:42

keep it zero percent saturated. So

15:45

it de-humidifies your area too, but which

15:47

can be a great thing. But

15:50

would it ever be something where you don't want to

15:52

have it in a room because of that? So

15:55

there's a couple factors that play into how well it

15:57

operates. One is the size of the water. of the

16:00

room that you have it in. We found that to

16:02

be very effective because the amount of volume you have

16:04

is more water in here, right? So the

16:06

size of the space really matters. So we don't, we tell you not

16:08

to like put into a closet. If you

16:10

put into a room with no windows, it's not gonna perform as well.

16:12

But if the room is big enough, it'll perform just fine. So

16:16

things like that tend to play into how

16:18

efficient it is. Is that because windows are

16:20

permeable? That needs them. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so there

16:22

is some air transfer between windows, even if

16:24

they're not operable. So he has in his

16:26

office, in his conference room, that doesn't have

16:28

operable windows, but it's like up against the

16:30

window. So it's never without the water. And he

16:32

has about 12 or 13 employees. So

16:35

I was like, that's a great way to

16:38

operate it in those environments. What we do say

16:40

is we'll see like a 5% drop

16:42

in humidity and like a high humid place, maybe

16:45

like a 2 to 3% in the lower humid place.

16:47

Because there's a lot of water in the

16:49

air, regardless of where you live. So you're never gonna

16:51

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16:54

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respective chatbots as an alternative option with

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some sort of agreement for Google's Gemini

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expected to be in place later this

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this a legitimate distribution

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model for chat GPT?

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interested in doing things for free, but they

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are going to be installed on somewhere south

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of a billion devices that might change things.

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very, very entitled to

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that I had coming out of

20:50

that announcement was that Apple was

20:52

paying open AI and that

20:54

that was kind of the, that they were going

20:56

to have to shop retail to make up for

20:58

the fact that they were behind in this world

21:00

and they were going to be the first ubiquitous

21:03

device to put that kind of

21:07

AI built into the

21:09

OS going forward with

21:11

open AI being essentially it's

21:13

preferred chatbot should the

21:16

system within Apple intelligence not get you to where

21:19

you need to go. That

21:21

being said, if

21:24

this is looked at by Apple

21:26

as, Hey, you guys

21:28

are the new search engines. And

21:31

I don't know if you've seen the reporting, but

21:33

Google pays us in the

21:36

billions yearly to

21:38

maintain their position as the default search

21:41

engine in Safari because they believe it

21:43

is that worthwhile to their business. Then

21:47

chat GPT. Congratulations. The first one's free. Come on

21:49

in here. You're going to get a ton of

21:51

data based on the usage that

21:54

people have. This is a AI

21:56

rollout to the normies, the likes of which you'd never

21:58

be able to do by yourself. But

22:01

going forward, just know there's gonna be other

22:03

options and at a certain point, you're gonna

22:05

have people that are possibly even Google that

22:07

will want to pay a pretty penny to

22:09

be in that top spot. Yeah,

22:14

I think that

22:17

Google will back up a Brinks truck

22:19

if they put Gemini on here. So I

22:22

was shocked too, that there was no money

22:24

that was exchanged between these two

22:26

companies. But then as I'm reading it and I'm thinking

22:28

about it and I've looked at a couple other people's

22:30

comments on this, I'm kind of

22:32

thinking that Apple is playing, I

22:35

don't even wanna say it's a long game because I think this game might

22:37

be like end of year type

22:39

of game. To our saying, hey, we're just

22:41

going to show

22:43

up on nearly a billion devices and

22:46

let the bidding begin when

22:48

Anthropic gets into the game, when Google probably

22:51

is going to get into the game later

22:53

this year. I think that there is gonna

22:55

be a bidding war. And

22:58

that's where this is ultimately gonna

23:00

end up because Google has to

23:02

win here, searches their thing.

23:06

And even if chat GPT was able to

23:08

take 5%, 10% away, that

23:11

is probably billions of dollars. I

23:14

wouldn't even say per year, probably per quarter as far as

23:16

Google is concerned with their revenue. So

23:18

they've got to win. So I'm just

23:20

wondering is Apple just setting up a

23:22

bidding war for some time later this

23:24

year? Yeah,

23:28

yeah. I mean, I

23:31

don't know that Apple really

23:33

cares to do that with

23:35

Google. I

23:38

feel like Apple is kind of on its, on

23:45

the playground, Apple's like, I'm doing

23:47

my thing over in the corner. And

23:50

Google, Microsoft and other

23:53

companies feel like they're a

23:55

little bit more in the game of

23:57

like, okay, who's gonna win here? Apple's

24:00

like, I don't even want to deal with you

24:02

guys. I'm doing my own thing. Well,

24:05

Apple would like to get paid for somebody

24:07

to try to get that market share because

24:10

that's what they have done with search while they

24:12

have not built a search competitor.

24:14

And Rob, I think that you

24:16

are dead on. There was a, you know,

24:18

the buzz a few weeks, a few months

24:21

ago about OpenAI building a search

24:23

competitor to Google. They

24:25

have a search competitor. It's called chat

24:27

GPT and the more people

24:30

rely on it, we are

24:32

looking at a world in which the

24:34

changing behavior is going to tilt more

24:36

toward asking janitor of AI to

24:38

find search results for you with what

24:41

we understand as search now to

24:43

be looked at as kind of

24:46

archaic. That's where the market is

24:48

going. There's a reason why

24:50

it feels like we always wind up getting

24:52

back to the existential threat that this does

24:54

represent to Google and its AdWords Empire, but

24:58

I am I'm very

25:00

fascinated by this. Also, it does

25:03

to me make the stories a

25:05

few weeks ago make a little bit more

25:07

sense that Microsoft was not in love with

25:09

this deal because the

25:12

world in which OpenAI was getting

25:14

paid by Apple to be a vendor

25:16

for their OS was

25:18

that seemed like a win-win

25:21

for everybody. If there's no

25:23

money involved here, I can

25:25

see a little bit more reaction

25:28

from Washington State. I

25:32

can I can see some of my friends who

25:34

were just diehard Windows phone fans saying see this

25:36

is why you should have never gave up your

25:39

phone Microsoft. But

25:42

yeah, if I were Microsoft, if

25:45

not upset my eyebrows at least would have been raised

25:47

like wait a minute, you want to let them install

25:49

this for free. You're not paying them anything to

25:52

put this on your phone or you're not

25:54

getting paid anything by them to put this

25:57

on your phone. That's that's an

25:59

interesting. juxtaposition, I think, that

26:01

Microsoft is thinking about right now. But

26:03

I'll go back to Google. Google's

26:06

world is search. And

26:09

if if search becomes what

26:11

you do in a chat, it is

26:13

add words, add words on search. Yes,

26:15

add words on search. They

26:17

have, you know, they have to win

26:19

here. So I'm just wondering, is

26:21

this is this just a good play to

26:24

get a bucket of money out of Google

26:26

from an Apple standpoint? But here's the other

26:28

thing, though, Rob. They

26:30

haven't figured out add words on search

26:32

for Gemini. So

26:35

that's like, yeah, this is existential,

26:37

but they might be kind

26:40

of screwed either way, because let's say

26:42

that they they're chasing

26:44

this concept. And unless, you know,

26:46

AGI comes along and now you can offer an entire

26:49

suite of do things, but even then you're betting

26:51

on a new business model right now.

26:54

Google is degrading its

26:56

ad word offering by

26:58

putting answers

27:00

to questions above stuff with without even saying

27:02

whether or not those answers are good or

27:05

not, which was a scandal two weeks ago.

27:07

But they need

27:09

to figure that out. That's the thing.

27:13

AdWords are the goose that laid the

27:15

golden eggs for them. It is a

27:17

hundred percent margin, essentially. And

27:19

right now, where the future is going, there's

27:21

no clean install for the thing that makes

27:24

them all their money. Well,

27:28

moving on to the mailbag feedback

27:31

at Daily Tech News Show dot com, by the way,

27:33

is where to send your email

27:35

going forward. Nathan says he

27:37

was surprised that our cloud

27:39

gaming conversation didn't come up

27:42

in our conversation when looking at the

27:44

differences between the two Xboxes. Basically,

27:47

the big two terabyte Xbox

27:49

having a having a

27:51

disk offering and and the the new white

27:54

one not having one. Nathan

28:00

says, I would imagine the cheaper

28:02

Xbox with a smaller disc size

28:04

is made for those who are

28:06

embracing Xbox Game Pass and their

28:08

cloud gaming features which allow you

28:10

to play games without installing. As

28:13

this is a new and more modern

28:15

way of playing games, the old guard

28:17

are probably still a little bit more

28:19

reliant on discs and prefer to have

28:21

physical discs. To me, it

28:23

would make sense that they would need

28:26

larger storage and an optical disc drive,

28:28

while the model without a disc

28:30

drive is geared towards those with a

28:32

use case requiring less storage. As

28:34

a side note, I think it was

28:36

prime Sherlocking when Windows started

28:39

natively supporting Zip Compression

28:41

by WinZip or

28:43

when they started supporting ISO

28:46

mounting by Daemon Tools by

28:48

Magic ISO. And

28:51

speaking of Sherlocking, Mary who goes

28:53

by MP Blanton on Twitch writes,

28:55

Microsoft tried to share live screen

28:57

reader technology in Windows 7 with

28:59

the introduction of Narrator. Windows eyes

29:01

went away after Windows 8. JAWS

29:04

is a very expensive product but works very well

29:06

if you can afford it. NVDA

29:08

is about the only other option.

29:10

My expert, my husband says Microsoft

29:12

hasn't really updated Narrator much while

29:14

JAWS and NVDA get regular updates.

29:16

A good screen reader is vital

29:18

for blind or seriously visually impaired

29:20

persons to use a computer, tablet

29:22

or smartphone. Oh,

29:26

Mary and

29:28

Nathan, thank you so much for writing

29:30

in. It's always good to get stuff

29:36

from the ground from folks who

29:38

have heard what we're talking about,

29:42

have some real world

29:45

ideas about how it could be

29:48

better and we appreciate that. And

29:50

feedback at dailytechnewsshow.com is where to

29:52

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29:54

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