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is the Daily Tech News for Monday, June 3rd, 2024

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in Los Angeles. I'm

2:00

some merit. In Studio

2:03

Colorado I'm Shannon Morse. Said.

2:05

On the show's producer Roger

2:07

say everybody is being fifteenth

2:10

birthday. Don't.

2:12

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2:15

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2:17

beings having kids in the

2:19

era announce good time. To

2:22

his I asked her out and. Yeah. It's

2:24

yeah, this is a big sit, there are

2:26

a little party and then we'll also up

2:28

and eat cake and dance. and yeah I'm

2:30

good. Day you know I

2:33

big they pointed out on the

2:35

roads are Com That being itself

2:37

was the successor of Live Search.

2:39

I forgot all about Microsoft Live

2:41

Search and Msn Search. Microsoft had

2:43

search engines before being. Have

2:45

Been is almost as a rebranding. Anyway,

2:49

I have your old sixteenth birthday.

2:51

the banks next year been can

2:53

drive in the United States. Ah

2:55

let's start with the quick hits.

2:59

Sony announced the Playstation Vr to Peace

3:02

see adapter that works with a few

3:04

thousand games on Steam connects to a

3:06

Pc with a display port. One point

3:08

for cable said he recommends that the

3:11

Pc you're connecting it to should have

3:13

at least an Intel Core I, Five

3:15

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3:17

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3:29

least those you'll also need Sony the

3:31

Are To app for Windows as well

3:33

as the Steam Vr app and you

3:35

should know that. Had. Said feedback:

3:37

eye tracking, eye tracking, adaptive triggers and

3:40

have to feed on going to work

3:42

on the Pc. The Ps Vr to

3:44

Pc adapter sells for sixty bucks and

3:46

you're in Europe which tasted seltzer sixty

3:48

Euros which makes it slightly more expensive.

3:51

Ah, in the Uk it's fifty pounds

3:53

and it ships on August seventh. as

3:56

speaking of companies that want your money

3:58

a spotify as raising it U.S. prices

4:01

again a year after its first price

4:03

rise. Spotify Premium goes up from $10.99

4:05

to $11.99

4:08

a month starting next month. Spotify Duo

4:10

is going from $14.99 to $16.99 a

4:12

month, and

4:16

the family plans go from $16.99 up to $19.99. Yeah,

4:22

they raised it for international last month or

4:24

two months ago or something, not that long

4:26

ago. This was coming.

4:28

Computex kicked off in Taiwan. Let's

4:31

go through some of the big

4:33

announcements there. Asus announced its ROG

4:35

Ally X handheld gaming PC, available

4:38

for pre-orders at $799 ship

4:40

in July 22. It has twice

4:42

the battery, twice the storage, and twice

4:44

the USBC ports of the previous version.

4:46

There's a lot of design changes in

4:48

here, a lot. Go read the Verge

4:50

article. They did a great job documenting

4:53

all of that, but it's still

4:55

the same chipset and still the

4:57

same display. It's essentially a revision

4:59

of the previous one. Asus also

5:01

announced three new form factors for

5:03

its ProArt line. The P16 is

5:05

a traditional laptop with a Pantone-validated

5:08

4K OLED panel running

5:10

on AMD's Ryzen 9 AI 300

5:13

processors. We're going to talk about those in a minute,

5:15

but that means it's a Copilot Plus PC. You

5:18

can also add a GeForce RTX 4070 GPU, up

5:20

to 64 gigs of memory, and 4

5:23

terabytes of storage up to that. The

5:26

physical dial for selecting settings, if you're familiar

5:28

from that from the previous versions, has been

5:30

worked into the touchpad, so it's still there.

5:32

It's just not its own thing. PX13 is

5:34

a 13.1 inch two-in-one convertible

5:38

with a 3K display,

5:40

still have the Pantone validation and

5:42

the dial in the touchpad. It

5:44

also has the AI 300 processors

5:46

and the PZ13 is the third new

5:49

one in this series. It is a 13-inch

5:52

3K OLED tablet running on Qualcomm's

5:54

Snapdragon X. I'm

5:57

so excited about those. During the keynote at

6:00

CompuTax, Qualcomm CEO Cristiano Amman

6:02

implied users of laptops running

6:04

on its chips will not

6:06

need to carry around chargers, since the

6:08

power efficiency will be good enough to

6:11

use as long as they

6:13

want. Qualcomm also showed a life

6:15

with PC form factors as well

6:17

as laptops using the Snapdragon X

6:19

chip. The first laptops with the

6:21

Snapdragon X chipsets will arrive June

6:24

18th. Amman also claimed that Snapdragon

6:26

X battery life will be as

6:28

much as twice that of traditional

6:30

laptops. Qualcomm generated some buzz by

6:32

using the actor Justin Long, who

6:35

is famous for being the Mac in the

6:37

older I'm a Mac I'm a PC commercials

6:39

from 2006. If you're older

6:41

like I am in a skit for

6:44

the keynote that Long switched from a

6:46

Mac to a PC running a Qualcomm

6:48

chip. Oh my gosh. I

6:51

know. And

6:53

then Nvidia announced the successor

6:55

to the Blackwell model chips

6:57

called Ruben. Blackwell was

6:59

just announced in March. This faster announcements

7:02

part of Nvidia's new cadence. They're going

7:04

to announce new AI chip tech every

7:06

year rather than every two years. Nvidia

7:09

also demonstrated G assist. That is a chat

7:11

bot that can help you play games. One

7:13

example they showed was it answering a question

7:16

on which game weapon that you should develop

7:18

next and where to go find the crafting

7:20

materials for it in the game. It

7:22

can also do non gaming things if

7:24

you think that's cheating. It can optimize

7:27

your display settings stuff like that. And

7:29

video also announced the SFS ready enthusiast

7:31

GeForce cards program. That's not sci-fi fantasy.

7:33

That's small form factor. The

7:36

program will match GeForce cards

7:38

with small form factor cases.

7:42

Significantly, it doesn't mean that every card in

7:44

the program is actually small form factor. They've

7:46

got some two and a half inch cards

7:48

in there. But they are saying though even

7:50

those cards can work in small form factor

7:52

cases based on this program.

7:54

So it's a way to match things up

7:56

if you're working on a small form factor

7:59

case. All right. thing from CopyTech's

8:01

AMD CEO Lisa Su got

8:04

on stage and said that AI is

8:06

now the number one priority for everyone

8:08

in the world, including AMD. The Ryzen

8:12

AI 300 series was her main announcement

8:16

that will power Microsoft

8:18

Copilot plus laptops. So

8:20

along with Qualcomm's Snapdragon X and

8:22

Intel's Lunar Lake, it

8:24

is the third of the series

8:26

of CPUs that can power a

8:28

laptop that gets the Copilot plus

8:30

designation. First releases for

8:33

those are coming in July. They are

8:35

built on the Zen 5 architecture. A

8:37

new naming convention changes HX. HX used

8:39

to mean something else, but now it

8:42

just means it's the best and the

8:44

fastest. It doesn't have to do with

8:46

battery life or anything like that. Ryzen

8:48

AI 300 chips have XDNA 2 for

8:51

the neural processing unit, RDNA 3.5 for

8:53

the iGPU and up to 16 compute

8:55

units. The Ryzen AI 9 HX370 and

8:57

the AI 9365 are the top two

9:03

in the series and both have 50 teraflop

9:06

MPUs. We've

9:09

got the 9000 series and a couple other

9:11

chips here Shannon, but a first reaction to the

9:14

laptop chips. I'm

9:17

pretty excited about them just in terms

9:19

of processing from a content creator perspective

9:21

because I feel like these are going

9:23

to really help with productivity

9:26

on the go as well as

9:28

hopefully battery power as well. We

9:31

already know that Qualcomm is really

9:33

touting their battery power and I'm

9:35

hoping to see very similar scenarios

9:37

when it comes out of Ryzen

9:39

2. Of course, that's going to take

9:41

a lot of testing and we're not going to know for

9:43

sure until we see a lot of those reviews coming

9:46

out for all these new laptops, but I'm

9:48

definitely looking forward to it. Alright,

9:50

that was the thing AMD wanted you to

9:52

pay the most attention to because AI and

9:54

Copilot Plus, but the thing enthusiasts seem most

9:56

excited about was the Ryzen 9000 series also

9:58

built on the Zenfiber. architecture. Next

10:01

in line for CPUs for desktop

10:03

PCs also coming in July. AMD

10:06

announced the 8040 and

10:08

8000 series just in April for AI workloads.

10:11

So AMD is picking up its cadence as

10:13

well, planning new AI tech every year now

10:15

as well. The Ryzen 9 9950X is the

10:18

flagship 16 cores, 32

10:20

threads, 80 megabytes of L2 plus

10:23

L3 cache, and a 5.7 gigahertz

10:25

boost clock. AMD claims

10:27

this is up to 16%

10:29

more instructions per cycle.

10:32

Roger, this got the actual people on

10:34

the street excited. This is the

10:37

first high-end multi-core

10:40

AMD processor that's come on

10:42

the new architecture. Just for comparison,

10:45

the Threadripper, those

10:47

processors start at 12 cores. So

10:49

this chip already

10:51

overlaps that. So it is a super exciting

10:53

project because people have been waiting for this

10:55

for at least a year. And

10:58

it's very interesting because AMD is taking

11:00

kind of this dual track with

11:03

the Ryzen AI 300 and the 9000 series. 9000 is definitely towards

11:05

the PC enthusiasts, the

11:12

home builders or specialty boutique

11:14

PC makers. While the Ryzen

11:17

AI 300 is definitely marketed

11:19

toward commodity OEM laptop

11:21

builders because they want to make sure

11:23

they get their share. People may not

11:25

realize it, but Intel and AMD make

11:28

a bulk of their chip sales to

11:30

those OEM

11:32

vendors. So making sure that

11:34

a Toshiba or a Fujitsu

11:38

or whoever's laptop has

11:41

an available AMD processor means

11:43

more sales for them. But

11:45

again, it's very interesting. AI with

11:47

Windows CoViolet plus PC really pushing

11:49

it that it's a general impetus

11:51

where you need to have AI

11:53

as a feature set. Whether or

11:56

not the end user actually uses

11:58

it, it needs to be... now

12:00

you need to have it as a checkbox. Yeah.

12:03

Shannon, you've been doing some PC building. Those 9000

12:05

series look good to you too? Oh

12:08

yeah. I mean, like Roger

12:10

had mentioned, just seeing that these are starting

12:13

with higher cores is very

12:16

exciting from a PC builder's perspective

12:18

as a gamer and as a

12:20

content creator. The last time

12:22

I built a PC was back in 2020 and

12:24

we didn't have any AI hardware, so to speak,

12:28

when I built my last machine. So

12:31

this time going into it, it's really

12:34

exciting, honestly. As a

12:36

PC builder, never being able to include

12:39

these kind of components into my machine

12:41

that have AI built into them or

12:44

have those capabilities built into them and

12:46

those abilities in the chipsets.

12:49

So it's going to be really

12:51

fun to come into this

12:53

from almost a fresh perspective of what

12:56

do I want? How am I going

12:58

to use AI? And

13:00

is this even something that I'm going to use or

13:02

is it just going to raise the prices of these

13:04

components that I've been so used to since I was

13:06

a kid? It's

13:09

very interesting you say that because

13:11

AI is one of those once

13:13

in a generation technologies that sort

13:15

of forces people to upgrade. Do

13:17

you have a PC that's pre-AI

13:20

or is it AI enabled? And

13:23

it is very telling that Windows

13:26

is sort of pushing that with Copilot

13:29

Plus PC and Windows 11

13:32

when they were flogging

13:34

the Qualcomm powered Surface

13:36

laptops. It is going

13:38

to be in a very important, you're going to

13:40

see a lot of it. Whether you're Best Buy

13:42

or online, you see AI flogged everywhere as again

13:44

a tick box on

13:47

a PC spec. Now

13:50

ARM's out there saying they expect 50% of the

13:53

PCs in the next three years to be

13:55

shipping with ARM processors, not x86

13:57

processors too. AMD

14:00

and Intel are needing to work hard to

14:02

convince you that you still need their x86

14:04

processors. Just to round up

14:06

the announcements, if you're a data center builder,

14:08

which I know a couple of you out

14:10

there are, the Instinct MI350 series is the

14:13

next-gen architecture coming in 2025 and the MI400

14:17

series planned for 2026. And

14:19

the fifth generation of Epic server processors is coming

14:21

in the second half of this year. That is

14:23

also built on the Zen 5 architecture and it

14:26

will have up to 192 cores and

14:29

384 threads. All

14:32

right, one of those

14:34

features in a CoPilot Plus certified

14:36

PC with those NPUs that have

14:39

45 tops or more is

14:42

Microsoft Recall. If you don't

14:44

remember, Microsoft Recall is that feature that will continually

14:47

take screenshots and then

14:49

do OCR. So they're not, people are like, that's

14:51

going to take up a lot of space on

14:53

my hard drive. They're just doing optical character recognition,

14:56

scanning in data and training machine learning algorithms to

14:58

understand what you've done in the past. And it

15:00

just does it constantly so that you can say,

15:02

what was that green thing that I looked at?

15:05

And it'll be able to tell you what the

15:07

green thing you looked at on the web is.

15:11

I defended it when they announced it because a lot

15:13

of people's reaction was, I don't want Microsoft knowing this

15:15

about me. And I'm like, they did a pretty good

15:17

job of making sure Microsoft would not know this about

15:19

you. It's just a matter

15:21

of whether it's as secure as they say

15:23

it is. And maybe I undersold that because

15:26

security expert Kevin Beaumont has found

15:28

a way to exfiltrate his own

15:30

Recall database. He's uploaded it to

15:32

a website that is searchable by

15:34

anyone with access to that website

15:36

just to show this is what

15:38

could happen to anyone. The

15:41

problem is that the database

15:43

is accessible from the app data folder if

15:45

you're logged in as admin, which best practices

15:47

don't always be logged in as admin, but

15:49

a lot of people are. And

15:52

that data is stored in plain

15:54

text in an SQLite database. That

15:57

may not be as easy to access as it

15:59

sounds in practice, but Beaumont figured out a

16:01

way. He has informed Microsoft

16:03

of that way to give them a

16:05

chance to address it. And

16:07

he's not making the details ready

16:09

yet. But, you know,

16:11

anytime you're saying plain text, I get it. Microsoft

16:14

is saying, look, it's encrypted at rest because you

16:17

have BitLocker on or you should, right? But

16:19

what Beaumont showed is like, yeah, but it's

16:21

not encrypted when you're using it. And

16:24

if it's not encrypted when you're using it, if someone

16:26

else gets in your machine, then they can also access

16:28

that, which is true of everything all

16:30

the time, right, Shannon? But if

16:32

it's taking screenshots of everything, it's gonna be

16:34

storing in plain text things like passwords, for

16:36

example. But yeah, absolutely. I'm

16:39

so glad that you brought this up

16:41

because I've had concerns

16:43

about recall, especially because a lot

16:45

of my real world

16:47

friends have brought up their own

16:49

concerns and they have nothing to

16:51

do with the tech nerd or

16:53

cybersecurity community whatsoever. They've just heard

16:56

about this on their local news. So

16:58

the fact that people are paying attention

17:00

to this, so much so that we're

17:02

having cybersecurity, the cybersecurity community

17:04

really delving into it to

17:06

find these vulnerabilities is so

17:08

important. I feel like with

17:10

Microsoft, they have this narrow path, this

17:13

idea of we need to make this

17:15

thing accessible and using recall, I can

17:17

understand why it would be so useful

17:19

and it sounds really cool. But

17:21

the problem is, yeah,

17:24

they're not gonna, they don't, maybe

17:26

they're not collecting your data. Yes, it

17:28

is encrypted at rest, but you always

17:30

have hackers who are trying to find a way into

17:32

things. And that's what the

17:34

cybersecurity community is looking for because they think

17:36

like hackers. So the fact

17:38

that Kevin was able to find

17:41

this so quickly too is definitely

17:43

a concern. And I immediately

17:45

thought about how if you

17:47

have access to this information in plain

17:49

text while you're using the computer, what's

17:51

to stop somebody if you leave while

17:53

you're at like a coffee

17:56

shop or something and you go grab your coffee when

17:58

they call out your name. What's to stop

18:01

somebody from plugging in like

18:03

a USB rubber ducky or something and uploading

18:05

all the plain text data up to their

18:08

own server while you're still logged in because

18:10

chances are you're leaving that computer logged in

18:12

for a few seconds when you walk away

18:14

and it only takes a few seconds to

18:16

use something like that. So

18:19

there's a major concern there. Now granted

18:22

the reasonable pushback is like that's

18:24

also those are all vulnerabilities for

18:26

your data right now right and

18:28

and that's true if you

18:30

have any data on your Windows laptop right

18:33

now someone can get in there and exfiltrate

18:35

it if you walk away from

18:37

the coffee shop and you're logged in on your

18:39

computer somebody can get in and exfiltrate it while

18:41

you're up at the coffee shop which is you

18:43

know why you should make sure you log out

18:46

or you know turn turn on password notification whatever

18:48

those are all true I think the issue here

18:50

is this is a lot more

18:53

data in a lot more

18:55

accessible form than what would be on

18:57

your on your laptop otherwise and a

18:59

lot of the data that you're talking

19:02

about you would encrypt now granted typing

19:04

in a password often

19:06

is obfuscated but it

19:08

might not be and we're

19:11

talking about worst-case scenarios not regular

19:13

case scenarios it seems to me

19:15

that Microsoft took the position of

19:17

the performance hit of encrypting the

19:19

SQLite database when you're using

19:21

it was enough that we

19:23

don't think most people will be vulnerable

19:25

to this but my

19:28

reaction is the amount of data it will

19:30

have on you is more than

19:32

you can contemplate right because

19:35

it's constantly capturing things and so this isn't

19:37

like well I know what data I'm keeping

19:39

on my device and I'm willing to take

19:41

that risk and everything you're

19:44

becomes a risk at that point so

19:46

to me I would turn it off

19:48

until they address this and

19:50

the other thing I should point out too is I was

19:53

under the impression that you would be given the option to

19:55

turn it on or off at setup they

19:57

just make you click

19:59

into settings to turn it off and set

20:01

up. Most people aren't going to know to do that. So I think

20:03

they need to change that too. Make it an

20:05

option of like, Hey Microsoft recall is going to be on.

20:08

If you'd like to turn it off, click here. I'm

20:10

fine with it being opt out for people.

20:12

I think it'd be better if it's opt in because

20:14

opt in is always better. But the way

20:17

they have it now, people aren't even going to be knowing it's running.

20:20

I disagree. I would very much prefer

20:23

that it be opt in just

20:26

like anything else that could spark a

20:28

vulnerability on your machine. So

20:31

we differ on our opinion there. And

20:33

I would, if

20:35

anything, this is going to give me some definite

20:37

content fodder for my channel. Because I'm

20:39

absolutely going to make some videos about

20:42

how to turn it off. What Shannon

20:44

and I agree on is you should turn it off.

20:46

You should figure out how to go in that setting.

20:48

Or better yet, Microsoft should make

20:50

it easy for you to know whether it's on

20:52

or off in the setup and give

20:54

you the chance to make sure that it's

20:57

off. Whether it's opted or opt out, do

20:59

that. And also address

21:01

this SD light thing. It needs

21:03

to be encrypted while you're using it. Sad

21:05

to say. But

21:09

I think it should. We

21:12

talk about stuff on the show based on our

21:14

sub-read. This story was submitted on our sub-Reddit. One

21:16

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21:18

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21:20

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Big. Moments and You Tube History

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happened this weekend As Jimmy Donaldson

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Ak Mister Beast you probably know

23:22

better is Mister Beast past Indian

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music label T Series to become

23:26

the largest You Tube Channel by

23:29

subscribers two hundred sixty nine million

23:31

subscribers. I T Series had held

23:33

the top spot for five years

23:35

ago after they passed Beauty By

23:38

and last month at Brand Cast.

23:40

google. Annual showcase event for Youtube

23:42

content products you tube Ceo Neil

23:45

Bow and told audiences creators are

23:47

the new Hollywood. Their. reimagine in

23:49

classic tv generous from morning shows

23:51

the sports commentary and they're inventing

23:53

entirely new ones bone wrote in

23:56

the hollywood reporter earlier made that

23:58

the emmys should include you to

24:00

creators. Shannon, what

24:02

do you think? Are YouTube shows a

24:05

new kind of entertainment distinct

24:07

from TV, movies and streaming shows? You

24:10

know, I think they are.

24:12

And I kind of

24:14

base that opinion on my own

24:17

perspective as a viewer as well

24:19

as a content creator. So discussing

24:21

this topic as a content creator

24:23

is so interesting. Just knowing

24:25

that like, when Neil

24:28

or when Jimmy makes these big changes, when

24:30

Neil is talking about, you know, being the

24:32

CEO, the head of YouTube, and when Jimmy

24:34

is talking about being the biggest

24:37

channel on YouTube and all the,

24:39

you know, statistical analysis that he's

24:41

done, they're talking about my job.

24:43

And that's, it's really cool to

24:45

see how I'm a part

24:47

of this career in this industry that is

24:49

making so many changes to how

24:51

we act as a society, if that makes

24:54

sense. Yeah, it does. I

24:56

have noticed that a

24:59

lot of the

25:02

categories of TV that are not scripted.

25:05

So you know, food, travel,

25:07

reality shows, etc. are well

25:09

represented on YouTube. And

25:11

in fact, a lot of

25:13

shows that are on TV also put

25:15

their stuff on YouTube in those categories,

25:18

specifically because they know that's where the

25:21

audience is going. You know,

25:24

some of it you could argue like, oh, so

25:26

YouTube is just taking over for home and garden,

25:28

you know, it's just taking over for the travel

25:30

channel and discovery channels and all of that

25:32

sort of thing. But some of these

25:34

categories are brand new. Oh,

25:36

absolutely. I mean, one of the ones that

25:39

I could think of immediately is just like

25:42

TV and TV reviews. So people

25:44

will have an entire YouTube channel

25:46

dedicated to reviewing shows

25:48

that they have watched on Netflix, or

25:50

they went to the theater and watched

25:52

a movie or saw something on Hulu.

25:54

And they come to YouTube and do

25:57

review and commentary about this, this

25:59

thing. You don't really see

26:01

that on traditional television as

26:03

much show as just the

26:05

original content. So

26:08

here you're seeing a lot of people

26:10

doing the reactions and doing the commentary

26:12

and doing the documentaries about these different

26:14

things that have come out. And

26:17

this is where, whenever I

26:19

think about creating products on

26:22

YouTube or watching YouTube as

26:25

a viewer, that's where my

26:27

mind wanders. What kind of commentary

26:29

can I give that will further

26:33

give my viewers something to experience

26:35

rather than just something that they

26:37

can watch? Yeah, yeah. I

26:40

mean, you could argue, I immediately heard someone

26:42

somewhere in our audience going like, ah, Cisco

26:44

and Ebert, we're doing movie reviews a long

26:46

time before YouTube ever existed. And that's absolutely

26:49

true. But it's the expansion, right? You

26:51

don't have as many of those

26:53

kinds of shows on broadcast TV or

26:55

cable TV as you used to. And

26:57

they are generally movie focused. They

27:00

aren't usually as TV focused. You get onto

27:02

YouTube though and you get not

27:04

only TV and movies, but old, new,

27:08

niche, documentary making

27:10

of commentary. And it

27:13

does range in quality. I

27:15

think a lot of people still think

27:17

of YouTube as equivalent to cable access

27:19

TV, but the quality of these shows

27:22

is, while there are many that

27:24

are still there, there are many that are absolutely

27:27

studio quality productions. And

27:31

even one of the things that I've seen more

27:33

of just in the past year or two is

27:35

how people are playing

27:37

into authenticity. They really want to

27:39

find creators who are authentic or

27:42

who are somebody that they can

27:44

really relate to as opposed to

27:46

just celebrities. For the longest time

27:48

over the past decade, we've seen

27:50

a lot of YouTube content creators

27:52

who have turned into celebrities. And

27:54

even Neil's like, oh, we should

27:56

start considering having Emmys

27:58

for YouTubers. YouTubers should

28:00

be included in the Emmys and

28:02

that's all you know fine and

28:04

glorious for the larger content creators

28:06

and the people who have become

28:08

That the part of that train,

28:10

but there's so many people that

28:12

have you know smaller accounts smaller

28:14

subscriber status But they have

28:17

tons of views because people find them to

28:19

be extremely authentic and

28:21

I think that's so interesting to see that

28:23

kind of content divide between traditional

28:26

television and movies and What

28:28

you see now with YouTube where

28:30

people are more interested in

28:33

divulging content or ingesting

28:35

content from people that they really relate to

28:38

that they see as Somebody

28:40

online who they could be a friend with yeah,

28:42

that is one of the challenges Yes,

28:47

you could change the Emmy rules to include

28:49

YouTube And there's a lot

28:51

of you wouldn't even have to add that many categories,

28:53

right? You could add a vlog or carrot a category

28:55

perhaps a few other categories, but most of the categories

28:58

are adaptable But how

29:00

do you decide who qualifies is it subscriber

29:02

count is it some other you know? There

29:04

might be a very quality channel deserving of

29:06

an Emmy that doesn't have a lot of

29:08

subscribers out there And there's a

29:10

lot to wade through there's a lot

29:12

more content on YouTube than there is

29:14

on cable television so

29:16

that the the nomination

29:20

process would be fraught with

29:24

Arguments about where that line is drawn.

29:26

I think it would be and

29:28

if we're even just talking about like you

29:30

know basing Youtubers

29:33

getting into the Emmy is based

29:35

just on like how many viewerships they actually

29:37

get that those numbers are growing

29:40

Especially on televisions like on physical

29:42

TV screens I

29:44

I also wanted to mention according to

29:47

Nielsen right now YouTube viewership in on

29:49

US TVs alone Has increased

29:51

it accounts for 9.7% That's

29:54

in 2024 and that is up from 7.8% in March of 2023 in that

30:00

that's up from 6% in March of 2022. So

30:03

the amount of people who are sitting

30:05

down in front of a TV screen

30:07

and watching YouTube as something that they

30:09

can sit back and relax and kind

30:11

of ingest at that time and relax

30:13

and watch, even on

30:15

family televisions, they're going to YouTube

30:17

more often than they are just

30:20

watching on mobile screens. And that's

30:22

even very important from a content

30:24

creator perspective too, is how do

30:26

we change how we're producing our

30:28

content to kind of focus on

30:30

the people who are watching on

30:32

these bigger screens now, as opposed to just

30:35

the mobile content creation.

30:37

Yeah, those numbers,

30:39

by the way, YouTube is passing

30:41

Netflix on televisions. That doesn't count

30:43

watching YouTube on your phone or

30:45

your laptop. That's just

30:47

on televisions. It is quite big. And

30:50

I see a lot of people asking the legitimate question

30:52

of like, you know, but why are creators not able

30:54

to make money? I think

30:57

that is a question for another

30:59

day for us to dig into. But

31:02

to me, the question isn't why aren't creators able

31:04

to make money? It's what is the distribution of

31:06

creators that are able to make money? Cause Mr.

31:08

Beast is worth around $500 million as of 2022.

31:12

So at least one person is making quite a

31:14

bit of money on YouTube. And

31:16

there's been- Yeah, I'm not quite there yet. I'm

31:18

not gonna say that. Yeah, me either. All right,

31:20

let's check out the mail bag. That's

31:23

not the mail bag. This is the

31:25

mail bag. IDTNS Crew says, Mike in

31:27

Dubai, I appreciated the discussion on

31:29

historic precedence for restricting technology to

31:31

foreign competitors. While I agree in

31:33

principle that limits on trade and

31:35

tech are not good, I

31:37

think it's crucial to point out that the US has

31:40

few restrictions on tech transfers to other

31:42

East Asian countries than China, such

31:45

as South Korea, Japan, and Taiwan.

31:48

Those compete with US manufacturers. You

31:50

are correct that many of the

31:52

restrictions are political, but it's also

31:54

linked to security concerns. The People's

31:56

Republic of China is a near

31:59

peer adversary the point and sending

32:01

tech they struggle to produce right their

32:03

way is self-defeating. In other words, sending

32:05

them tech that they could use against

32:07

the United States is self-defeating the United

32:10

States. Mike

32:12

had a lot more in here that was really good, but

32:14

just trying to keep it brief. Great

32:16

point, Mike, that it is not

32:18

just an economic concern on these restrictions.

32:20

It is also a security

32:23

concern. When I said it was political, I was

32:25

including security, and there is sort of the

32:28

politics writ large of government operation.

32:31

But you're right, political is often seen

32:33

as just electioneering and winning points, and

32:35

there's that part of it. There's

32:38

other parts of it too. So thank you for pointing that out, Mike.

32:40

Appreciate it. And thank you, Shannon Morse, for

32:42

being here today. What you got going on these days?

32:45

Oh, I have a lot of really

32:47

good videos coming up. But most recently,

32:50

somebody in my family

32:52

was targeted in an identity

32:54

theft scam. So it inspired

32:56

me to make a video about how to

32:58

protect yourself from identity theft. You

33:01

can find it on my YouTube channel,

33:03

which is youtube.com/Shannon Morse. It's the newest

33:05

video that you can watch on there.

33:08

That's a good one. Check it out, folks.

33:10

And patrons, stick around for the extended show,

33:12

Good Day Internet. We're going to talk about

33:14

what we watch on YouTube on our televisions

33:17

versus regular old TV. So we talked about

33:19

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33:22

going to talk about our own viewing habits and

33:24

compare them and how they've changed over the years.

33:26

So stick around for that. You can also

33:29

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33:31

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