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history than APPS. Dark
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history. Hello Fresh, America's
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number one meal kit. In
10:04
the 1950s, just like in America, Japanese
10:07
people were addicted to stimulants like amphetamines
10:09
and the blue collar workers relied on
10:12
them to get their work done.
10:15
But the Japanese government must have felt that
10:18
having a doped up population might not
10:20
be great like in the long run.
10:22
So they passed a bunch of laws
10:24
stopping the sale of stimulant drugs. And
10:27
I guess people freaked out, okay? I
10:29
mean, they had no idea how they were going to make it through
10:32
their day. I mean, it's like,
10:34
imagine if our government totally banned coffee. I'm
10:37
like, God, people would die. People
10:39
would die. They would lose their shit. The
10:42
Japanese government essentially forced the entire
10:44
nation to just go cold turkey.
10:46
But thankfully, a company showed up
10:48
and saved the day. In
10:51
1962, the big brains at
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a company called Taisho Pharmaceuticals
10:56
invented something called Lipovitan D.
10:59
And my friends, let me introduce
11:02
to you the
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world's first energy
11:06
drink as we know it. Now,
11:08
this first energy drink was more
11:10
of an energizing herbal tonic.
11:12
Like it was sold in tiny
11:15
bottles. You know, like the bottles
11:17
of booze you'd find in a hotel minibars,
11:20
you know, fun size. And
11:23
I mean, I guess it smelled
11:25
and tasted like cough syrup. And
11:27
even the name itself made it
11:29
sound kind of like a medicine.
11:31
Now, as for this tonic claimed,
11:33
it could help with, quote, physical
11:35
fatigue, lack of appetite, nutritional deficiency,
11:38
fever, and exhaustion. Bold
11:40
claims. And the product was targeted
11:43
at people who worked in factories,
11:45
office jobs, and people like truck
11:47
drivers who had to stay awake
11:49
for long periods of time. Now,
11:52
this tonic in Japan was made
11:54
with B vitamins and caffeine, but
11:56
the main ingredient was something called
11:59
taurine. Taurine. is an amino acid
12:01
that can be found in foods with protein,
12:03
like meat, you know? And that
12:06
is how the pharma company
12:08
got around Japan's stimulant ban,
12:11
because touring is organic. The
12:13
company claimed our bodies used
12:15
touring to create energy. And,
12:18
I mean, mixed reviews on this,
12:20
like there are many experts who
12:22
dispute this claim, but whether or
12:24
not this is true doesn't really
12:26
matter, because people believed it was
12:28
true. Lipo Vaitan-D flew off the
12:30
shelves in Japan, and it paved
12:32
the way for this next product.
12:35
So over in Thailand, a
12:37
man was coming up with his own
12:40
version of an energy drink. And
12:42
little did he know, he was
12:45
going to have a massive global
12:47
impact that would create one of
12:49
the world's most recognizable brands. An
12:51
icon, a legend, wow. Sometime
12:54
between 1923 and 1932, we're not sure. Seems
12:58
like someone got the numbers flipped or something.
13:01
But a man named
13:03
Chaleo Uvudia was born in
13:05
Thailand. Chaleo's parents were Chinese
13:07
immigrants, and the family
13:10
was pretty poor. They sold fruit
13:12
at the market and were also
13:14
duck farmers. Chaleo didn't
13:16
receive much formal education, but he
13:18
was very ambitious. And
13:20
after working for his parents for a while, Chaleo
13:23
moved to the capital of
13:25
Thailand, Bangkok. Anyway, for a
13:27
while, Chaleo was a salesman
13:29
pushing antibiotics. And eventually,
13:32
he leaves that job and creates
13:34
his own company called TC Pharmaceuticals.
13:37
But a few years after starting the
13:39
company, Chaleo came up with the product
13:42
that would change his life. In
13:44
1975, Chaleo claimed that
13:46
he was hit with divine
13:49
inspiration. Yes,
13:52
and this divine inspiration told him that
13:54
he should invent an energy drink. And
13:56
that's exactly what he did. Like
13:59
in Japan, His target market was
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everyday consumers like blue collar workers.
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And this drink was made
14:06
with water, sugar, caffeine, taurine
14:09
and B vitamins like the
14:11
usual suspects. But the branding
14:13
is what sets Chaleo's product
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apart. He invented an
14:17
iconic logo set against a yellow
14:20
sun in the background. The logo
14:22
featured two bowls charging at each
14:24
other. Yeah, the color of these
14:26
bowls, red. Chaleo
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called his creation, Crotting Ding,
14:30
which translates to Red Bull
14:32
or as Red Bull. Yeah,
14:35
Red Bull. What?
14:37
Yeah. I
14:39
know. Chaleo said he chose
14:41
the bowls because they represented strength. And
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he picked the color red
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because it symbolizes tenacity. And
14:48
the yellow sun in the
14:50
background signified vitality. Wow.
14:55
I want one now. Chaleo started
14:57
selling Crotting Ding and pharmacies
14:59
all around Thailand. And
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it was an immediate hit. But
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the thing is, it's a hit
15:06
in only Thailand and Japan. That
15:08
is until a toothpaste salesman shows
15:11
up and made the
15:13
deal of a lifetime. The year
15:15
is 1984 and a man named
15:17
Dietrich Matteschitz is on a business
15:19
trip to Thailand. And you see,
15:22
Dietrich is working for a
15:24
German cosmetics company and his job was
15:26
to sell toothpaste. So he traveled all
15:28
the way to Bangkok to figure out
15:30
how to market his company's toothpaste in
15:32
Thailand. I mean, it makes sense. People
15:34
brush their teeth in Thailand too, you
15:37
know? So he lands at the Bangkok
15:39
International Airport and finds a ride. And
15:41
he's on his way from the airport to the
15:43
center or the city center when he just hits
15:46
like, or he gets hit with a massive case
15:48
of jet lag. I don't know if they stopped
15:50
at a convenience store or the driver gave it
15:52
to him, but we know that Dietrich had a
15:54
crotting dang. Right boy. And
15:57
Dietrich is on record saying, one
15:59
glass of wine. and the jet lag was
16:02
gone. So Dietrich is like, oh, screw the
16:04
toothpaste. Take me to this guy who like
16:06
makes this magic drink. You know, somehow
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Dietrich gets ahold of Chaleo and the two
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of them sit down and they talk. So
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Dietrich says that he wants to bring Crotine
16:15
dang to the Western world. And
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he's certain that they're gonna make millions. Of
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course, Chaleo thinks like, okay,
16:23
this is a great idea. So they struck
16:25
a deal in 1984 and
16:28
came up with a partnership. They each invested
16:30
$500,000 into
16:32
a new company called Red Bull
16:34
GmbH. They each have a 49%
16:37
stake in the company and
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the remaining 2% goes to Chaleo's son.
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They shake hands and history is
16:45
made. Over the next three years,
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Dietrich goes into his energy drink
16:49
lab working with experts to reformulate
16:52
the product for Western taste. He
16:54
keeps the iconic logo, but rebrands
16:56
the product as a trendy upscale
16:59
drink. In 1987, Dietrich
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began selling Red Bull in Europe and
17:03
he sold it at posh places like
17:05
ski resorts. And like right out the
17:08
gate, Dietrich is sending a message that
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this isn't a beverage company. No, this
17:12
is a lifestyle brand. And to
17:14
go along with that cool lifestyle, the
17:17
drink was pretty pricey. The cans were
17:19
only eight ounces, but they were at
17:21
least double the price of a can
17:23
of Coke. But it didn't matter. The
17:26
drink took Europe by storm. It's kind of
17:28
funny though, because it's like this guy was
17:30
selling toothpaste, and now he's
17:32
selling a product that is rotting people's
17:35
teeth out. Or
17:37
allegedly, I don't know. But it's kind
17:40
of funny. Life, huh? It'll get you. Meanwhile,
17:42
over in America, the energy drink
17:44
market is trying to figure itself out. And
17:46
it's throwing just all sorts of hilarious stuff
17:48
at the wall. I mean, in the mid
17:50
80s, Jolt
17:52
Cola hits the market. Their
17:55
slogan was literally, all the
17:57
sugar and twice the caffeine.
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and I guess they had like a bunch of silly flavors as
18:02
well. One of them was called white
18:04
lightning. Yeah, but it
18:06
was grape flavored. Kind
18:09
of confusing, right? So yeah. And
18:11
then there's another one called citrus climax.
18:14
I drink that, that's hot. Yeah.
18:16
Then in 1989, Pepsi drops a
18:19
product called Pepsi AM. You see,
18:21
no one was buying soda in
18:23
the morning for breakfast and the
18:25
executives at Pepsi thought like, hey,
18:28
that should change. They thought if they
18:30
just made regular Pepsi, but with
18:33
more caffeine, people would drink that instead
18:35
of coffee. Yeah, it didn't
18:37
work. I guess it lasted like a
18:39
whole year and then it just fizzled out. And
18:42
then Coke really phoned it in. They
18:44
launched a campaign called Coca-Cola in the
18:46
morning. There was no new product.
18:48
They just wanted to convince people to drink Coke
18:50
for breakfast, which might sound crazy, but like I
18:52
kind of do this all the time, like don't
18:55
comfort me or anything, cause like I'm awful, but
18:57
I sometimes drink Coca-Cola not sponsored.
19:00
I sometimes drink Coca-Cola for breakfast, not
19:03
for breakfast, but like instead of coffee,
19:05
because it wakes me up. Anyone
19:08
else? I
19:10
know, I don't know. Wow, Tom. I mean, I think
19:13
it's better than a cup of coffee, probably less sugar,
19:15
cause I like heat up 90% creamer
19:17
and a little bit of coffee. So
19:19
to me, like the Coke actually makes more sense. I
19:23
don't know. I mean,
19:25
if they brought back Pepsi AM, I'd definitely be all
19:27
over that. Pepsi, get on it. I do like a
19:29
Pepsi. So yeah, you
19:31
know, Titans like Coke, Pepsi, and
19:34
even Mountain Dew, they tried, but
19:36
they couldn't dethrone coffee as America's
19:38
favorite source of energy. Coffee continued
19:40
its reign as Stimulate King, and
19:43
that is until 1996. You
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Now let's get back to the story. Well,
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96 was like a wild year
21:44
for America. President Bill Clinton and
21:47
Monica Lewinsky were having their affair,
21:50
but the world didn't know it yet. The Unabomber
21:52
was arrested and the Backstreet
21:54
Boys, they dropped their very first
21:56
album. Great year. But
21:58
96 was huge. for another
22:00
reason. That year, Dietrich
22:02
launched Red Bull in America and
22:05
created the energy drink market as
22:07
we know it today. I know,
22:09
96. Yeah.
22:12
So when Red Bull launched in America,
22:14
it was a cult hit and it
22:17
did well for like a lot of
22:19
reasons. First of all, the brand was
22:21
consistent. Initially they offered one
22:23
product in one flavor and like that was
22:26
it. Great, no options, like just one thing
22:28
and they were good at it. Like second
22:30
of all, instead of competing with the big
22:32
soda guys for space in
22:34
the cooler at places
22:37
like gas stations, they created their
22:39
own cooler. Red Bull gave away
22:41
these mini countertop fridges to stores.
22:44
Yeah, you've seen those because they're still around. Brilliant,
22:47
huh? Lastly, Dietrich knew
22:49
his drink could be easily copied. I
22:51
mean, all the ingredients were listed right
22:53
on the can. So they needed good
22:56
marketing to set themselves apart. One
22:58
of the ways they did that and still do it
23:00
since very day is super
23:02
unique cartoon commercials.
23:05
Maybe you've seen them, maybe you haven't, you
23:07
probably have, but they're really simple cartoons that
23:09
feature a guy or a girl with like
23:12
rosy cheeks, bad squiggle
23:14
lines, you know, squinty
23:16
eyes in different situations. In
23:19
one Red Bull commercial from the year 2000, like
23:22
a bird poops on a cartoon guy's shoulder.
23:24
So he drinks the Red Bull. He
23:27
grows wings and then he flies above
23:29
the bird, unbuckles his pants and is
23:31
about to poop on the bird to
23:34
pay him back. But just before he
23:36
does, the commercial cuts away. And of
23:38
course, like every Red Bull commercial, it
23:40
ends with Red Bull gives you wings.
23:43
And you're like, hell yeah, I've always wanted to poop
23:45
on a bird. Like, yeah, you know? But
23:50
like the Red Bull gives you wings. When I was
23:52
younger, I always thought that had to do something with
23:54
like pads, you know, pads with
23:56
wings. Yeah, I thought it was like something
23:59
like that. I didn't understand. I have a unique
24:01
way of thinking, so I was thinking pads. But
24:06
it wasn't the same, great, glad we had that talk. Not
24:09
long after Red Bull came onto the
24:11
scene, the market was like flooded with
24:13
competitors. Rockstar Energy Drinks came out in
24:15
2001. Monster
24:17
Energy showed up in 2002. And
24:22
by 2003, the beverage industry experts
24:24
at BevNet tracked over 300 Energy
24:27
Drink brands in the United
24:30
States. That's a lot. And
24:32
then in 2003, a
24:34
former monk from Michigan, yeah.
24:37
He was at a trade show in
24:40
California when inspiration just struck him like
24:42
lightning. He was like,
24:44
what if Energy Drinks
24:47
were tiny? Mm-hmm, anyone? He also
24:49
wanted a drink that had no
24:51
sugar and zero unknown
24:54
stimulants. So this guy, our
24:56
monk over here, he goes
24:59
out and invents five hour
25:01
energy. Come on
25:03
out. And this product becomes huge
25:05
with people who want energy, but like,
25:07
I don't know, I guess don't wanna
25:09
peel off. People like long
25:12
haul truckers or people
25:14
who like to party. By 2004, Red
25:17
Bull is killing it globally. Customers
25:19
purchased about 1.9 billion cans of
25:22
the Energy Drink worldwide. And this
25:25
earned the company about $2 billion in
25:27
revenue. But in the US, the company
25:29
wasn't as successful as they wanted it
25:31
to be. So to help America see
25:33
what the rest of the world saw,
25:36
Dietrich spent about $600 million on marketing. I
25:40
mean, they weren't spending all that money on
25:42
those squiggly lines, obviously, right? Looked like a
25:44
kid drew that. Just like, okay.
25:47
First of all, Energy Drinks, they make like bold
25:50
promises. They offer tons of
25:52
benefits. Like better focus, increased
25:55
energy, improved
25:57
performance, whatever that.
26:00
That means kind of sounds sexual,
26:02
but maybe that's just me. And
26:05
then they use official sounding phrases
26:07
like scientifically formulated. You're
26:09
like, oh, and then speeds
26:11
up recovery time. It's
26:14
like, what am I recovering from? I don't know, but I need
26:16
it. And the other thing
26:18
these energy drink companies do is they
26:20
make their brands seem aspirational. Like they
26:22
can give you a life
26:24
that you've always wanted, a high performing, high
26:27
flying rock star kind of life. Like, oh
26:29
my God, don't you want to be cool?
26:31
Do you want to be like us and
26:33
fuck a party? Drink this Kenny, you'll be
26:35
just like us. Over time,
26:38
most of these energy drink companies
26:40
shifted their focus from older professionals
26:42
and begin targeting their ad
26:45
campaigns at teens and college kids. And
26:47
like the demo was getting younger and
26:49
younger. I mean, what do these kids
26:51
reach for when they need to cram
26:53
for a test or like stay
26:55
up late writing a paper? They
26:58
aren't making a pot of coffee. Even
27:00
though the coffee is cheaper and just as effective. And
27:02
do you think Red Bull was mad when college
27:05
kids started making Red Bull Vodka's?
27:08
I mean, hell no. I was already
27:10
a mixer in Europe by this point anyway.
27:13
Now, I guess it's a
27:15
really bad horrible combination for you.
27:18
Red Bull and vodka. You see
27:20
the upper of an energy drink
27:22
and the downer of alcohol, not
27:25
great. Red Bull gets the benefit of the
27:27
sales without ever promoting it or endorsing it.
27:29
I mean, their hands are
27:31
clean legally. The
27:34
reason why Red Bull Vodka's are so
27:36
dangerous is because the energy drink can
27:39
trick you into thinking that you're more
27:41
sober than you actually are.
27:44
You see, when I go
27:46
out, sometimes I personally, I
27:49
like a Red Bull Vodka. The last time I had
27:51
a bunch of Red Bull Vodka's, I had way too
27:53
many, like four. And yeah,
27:56
whoops, I was like blacked out, but
27:58
I was wide awake. It
28:00
was such a, I did not like that
28:02
combination. I didn't do anything productive. I
28:05
just stayed up all night, like, but I don't remember.
28:08
The fuck was that? You know, it was just a waste of a day. But
28:11
I like the taste, so fuck
28:14
me, you know? Anywho, don't do
28:16
it, it's dangerous. Okay, great, glad
28:18
we had this talk. The more you know. So
28:21
all these companies rely on word
28:24
of mouth advertising and also they
28:26
totally benefit from peer pressure. And
28:29
that's why like 20 years ago, if you remember,
28:31
you saw like a lot
28:33
of brand ambassadors. Essentially
28:35
it was just hot chicks driving
28:38
around in a Red Bull car. And
28:40
they'd walk around like with these little backpacks on and they'd
28:42
be like, hey, do you want a Red Bull? You
28:45
should have one, it's like so good. Tits
28:48
out and you're like, okay, sure. Plus Red
28:50
Bull was at all these huge events in
28:52
the early 2000s, like X Games and Lollapalooza,
28:54
the music festival. So it was like a
28:57
lot of young kids there and
28:59
these events didn't have contracts with
29:02
Coca-Cola. No, they had it
29:04
with Red Bull. And it was smart. Cause
29:06
you want to party, you want to have fun and you're like, I
29:08
need energy. They fucked
29:10
with us and we didn't even know it.
29:13
Red Bull also use something called
29:15
Gorilla Marketing. And this is
29:17
when like a company uses unique
29:20
ways to boost brand
29:22
awareness in sales. And
29:24
I guess Red Bull is like the king of this. First
29:26
of all, I learned about this the
29:29
other day. They did something called anti-marketing.
29:32
It's like, okay. Instead of using positive
29:34
selling tactics, like talking
29:36
about the benefits of a product, instead
29:38
they got a little creative. So
29:41
like with Red Bull, they would
29:43
send people into crowded locations to
29:45
place empty cans all over.
29:49
Yeah, like at clubs and
29:51
college campuses, which is like such
29:53
a mind fuck. It's like, I don't want to believe that happened,
29:57
but maybe it did. You know, on one hand, I mean, it
29:59
could just be like. looked at as trash, but
30:02
on the other hand, it's kind of like where
30:04
Red Bull is like kind of genius because it's like,
30:06
oh man, you know, people must
30:08
love Red Bull because there's like 10 cans over there
30:10
and they're all empty. So I should
30:12
get one too. I mean, Red Bull, Red Bull, and all of a
30:14
sudden you want a Red Bull. You probably want one
30:16
now because I've said it so many times. Oh
30:19
my God, I know I want one. No,
30:21
I don't. Ah, ah! Plus if there's like a
30:23
hundred of these cans laying around, you
30:25
know, it sends a message that like, oh, people would really
30:27
love this shit. You guys will like buy one and try
30:29
it. It was pretty much a fake it
30:32
till you make it strategy to
30:34
make the brand like seem more popular than it
30:36
actually was. Damn,
30:39
smut. Red
30:41
Bull also gets creative with their
30:43
marketing money. Instead of spending millions
30:45
on one giant celeb to push
30:47
their product, you know, like with
30:49
Pepsi teaming up with Britney, I
30:52
know I love that commercial. Ah, the Britney
30:54
Pepsi. It's like, you
30:57
know, if you know, you know, but they didn't want to
30:59
do that. Okay. Red Bull instead
31:01
spreads their money out and like
31:03
sponsors hundreds of alternative and extreme
31:05
athletes. Red Bull was like ahead
31:08
of their time on this one because like now
31:10
we would call these people influencers. But
31:12
back then, you know, it
31:14
wasn't. Like these were athletes who did
31:17
crazy things to get in
31:19
the headlines and whatnot. So
31:21
they were like, let's partner with those
31:23
guys. Like in 2012, there was this
31:25
guy who took a helium balloon up
31:27
to the earth stratosphere and then
31:29
jumped out of it. He reached like
31:31
a top speed of 843 miles per hour, which
31:35
is faster than the speed of sound.
31:38
So, okay. But Red
31:41
Bull like partners with this
31:43
guy and they get
31:45
major press because like Red Bull is everywhere.
31:47
And like, I still don't quite understand what was the
31:49
point of that? What was
31:52
the point? I'm not sure. I
31:54
don't know. You can watch the video. I don't.
31:57
I mean, you can, but like, I don't know what the point was. I
32:00
guess there is no point, maybe that's the point. Maybe
32:02
that's the point. Ah, I don't know. Honestly
32:05
though, Red Bull was like the
32:07
OG content creator doing all sorts
32:09
of things to like get people
32:11
talking. On top of all this,
32:13
they had their own or they
32:15
have their own record label. I
32:18
know Red Bull, I was like, what? A
32:20
magazine, an F1 racing
32:22
team, and they even have their own
32:24
made up sport called, yeah,
32:27
I don't know, Flugtog? Let
32:30
me know what that is, cause I don't know. Now
32:33
here's why marketing is so important. In
32:36
2012, the US energy drink industry
32:39
had about $12.5 billion in sales. When
32:45
they market the drink as a performance
32:47
enhancer and make the experience all about
32:49
living like a cool lifestyle, people look
32:51
at it differently. It's
32:54
almost as if people will pay a premium price for
32:57
a shot at a premium life. And
33:00
that was like the core of Red Bull's
33:02
philosophy when it came to marketing. Like don't
33:04
bring the product to the consumer, bring the
33:06
consumer to the product. Hmm?
33:10
And they attract them by doing cool shit.
33:13
They're like, look at what we can do. Mad
33:15
TV, look at what I can do. And
33:18
it was like, Red Bull. It's always sports stuff
33:20
though, huh? Yeah, hmm, I didn't
33:22
think about that. Hmm,
33:25
I didn't think about that. They don't do like Red
33:27
Bull ice skating, figure skating with
33:30
Red Bull, ballet with Red Bull. So
33:33
when it comes to energy drinks, it
33:35
all comes down really to marketing. It
33:37
can make or break a company. Shaik
33:40
for example, this next story, meet Russ
33:42
Weiner. Weiner. Okay,
33:46
but Russ, he had an idea for an energy drink
33:48
back around the year 2000. So he
33:51
took the idea and he like pitched it to
33:53
the company he was working for. He said, hey
33:55
guys, I got an idea. Look, can I pitch
33:57
it to you? And this company was Sky Vodka.
34:00
And so he pushes it to them and
34:02
they're like, no, Russ, stop
34:04
being a whiner and just get back to work.
34:09
Eh? Ah, okay. But
34:11
like no one believed in him, okay? His
34:13
dreams were crushed. But you know what? Russ
34:16
believed in Russ. He's like, I
34:18
know this is some good shit. So he took out a
34:20
$50,000 mortgage on his home and
34:23
he used that money to develop a drink. And
34:25
then whatever money he had left over, he spent on
34:28
a limo, okay? He got this limo
34:30
and he painted on the side of the
34:32
limo like this new logo and started passing
34:34
out free drinks around
34:36
San Francisco. He also hired some
34:39
hot sexy bitches to wear like
34:41
black and gold bikinis, you know?
34:43
Cause tits. And then
34:45
he's like, yeah, drink this. Ah, what?
34:47
Oh my God, you want this? And
34:51
then can you guess what this drink was
34:53
that he invented? Well,
34:57
if you guessed rock star, you are
34:59
correct. Rock
35:02
star, huh? Yeah. So
35:05
lame. Oh my God. I know this is
35:07
going to be a really douchey thing for me to say, but
35:09
I'm going to say it anyways. All the
35:12
guys I know who drink rock
35:14
stars are so douchey. Think
35:17
about it. Marinate on that for a
35:19
minute. The ones that are loyal
35:21
to rock star are low key douchey. There
35:24
goes my sponsorship with rock star, but I
35:26
mean facts. Come on. Anywho,
35:28
but good for him. Good for Russ.
35:30
He did something and it was very
35:33
successful. People love rock star. No,
35:37
I'm kidding. But like, yeah, successful. And
35:40
he ended up like making rock star and it
35:42
was like doing so well that he sold it
35:44
to Pepsi. So fuck
35:46
me, you know, because he made about like $3.2 billion off
35:49
this douchey drink. Yeah. And
35:52
all because his product showed consumers that
35:55
rock stars just live amazingly
35:57
cool lives. And like you.
36:00
I can too. Which is
36:02
so embarrassing. Like, oh my
36:04
God, we're so lame. Anyhow,
36:06
so in a crowded field of energy drinks,
36:09
you know, you really gotta be creative to
36:11
stand out. You have to think outside the
36:13
box. And it was only a matter of
36:15
time before like someone came along and
36:17
gave us the mashup that
36:20
we've been DIY-ing all along. Oh,
36:23
oh, oh, what a
36:25
time to be alive this was, huh? Energy
36:27
drinks plus booze equals
36:29
fun and felonies. Am
36:32
I right? Up top. Okay.
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history. In
38:38
1999, there were three frat
38:40
brothers at Ohio State who were,
38:43
they were doing like most college kids
38:45
do at the time. They were mixing
38:47
energy drinks with booze at their parties.
38:49
So they see this catch on at
38:52
sororities and then at bars. And
38:54
they think to themselves like, what
38:56
if we took this concoction, put
38:59
it in a can and
39:01
sold it to people? Like,
39:03
okay. Now, they weren't the first to
39:05
think of this. There was already a
39:07
product like this on the market. It
39:10
was called Sparks. You probably don't
39:12
remember. No one does. But it was made
39:14
with caffeine, taurine, ginseng
39:16
and malt liquor. Yeah.
39:21
No, but the
39:23
frat brothers, they thought they
39:25
could do better. So in
39:27
2005, they created a company
39:29
called Fusion Projects. And
39:31
the mission of this company was to
39:34
create caffeinated alcohol, period. No
39:36
other products. So they
39:38
spent a few years doing research
39:40
and development. And then in 2008,
39:42
they struck gold. They gambled on
39:44
an idea and like went all
39:46
in. Their invention came in a
39:48
23.5 ounce can
39:51
and had caffeine, taurine,
39:54
guarana and wormwood. Say
39:56
wormwood like 200 times. Wormwood. That
40:00
was hard for me. But yeah, they did
40:02
that. If you don't know, like wormwood
40:06
is an active ingredient in
40:08
absinthe. Absinthe can make you
40:10
see stuff. So great idea
40:14
guys. This drink
40:16
was promising to deliver, you know, wild
40:19
nights and forgettable moments. So
40:22
the booze content, it was 12%, okay? And
40:26
this thing was pure Anka
40:29
rocket fuel and they called it Four
40:33
Loco. Oh fuck,
40:35
I know. Four for the
40:37
four energy ingredients and Loco
40:40
because it's genuinely crazy
40:43
to drink. Experts say drinking
40:45
just one of these four Locos
40:47
was like drinking six beers, one
40:50
espresso shot and one Red
40:52
Bull all in one can. And
40:55
the best part, the price was just $2.50. Oh
41:01
no, this is bad. This is so
41:03
bad. I mean, oh wow, you can
41:05
get wasted for that cheap.
41:07
Oh yes, you could. And people lost
41:09
their minds when they found out about
41:11
this stuff. College kids around the country
41:14
gave it a nickname. They called it,
41:17
quote, a blackout in a
41:19
can. Oh no,
41:21
yes, no, yep.
41:24
And unfortunately, where there is memory
41:26
loss, there just happens to be
41:28
some crime. So like this comes
41:31
out, people are drinking in, like
41:33
headlines pop up where people blame
41:35
their insane actions on, you know,
41:37
the Four Loco. There was robbery,
41:39
assault, destruction of property, rape,
41:42
murder, yeah,
41:44
Four Loco. And people were like, Four Loco
41:46
made me do it. And like, I mean,
41:48
that's real bad, okay? The first
41:50
time I had a, I have a Four Loco
41:53
experience, okay, I drank a Four Loco one time.
41:55
And I'm not kidding you, this one time I drank a Four
41:58
Loco, I blacked out. But I waited. streaking
42:01
on a busy street. It wasn't
42:03
like a quiet like neighborhood, it
42:06
was a busy ass street and
42:08
my ass went streaking. I
42:11
was like 21, 22, I don't know how old it
42:13
was. I was young okay and I fully blamed the
42:15
four loco. I saw pictures, I didn't
42:18
need to see that. It was wild. After
42:20
that I was like I'm never drinking that again
42:22
like that was it was too much for me.
42:25
Anywho so, lol.
42:28
So just as quickly as four loco launched,
42:31
problems started rolling in. So in the fall
42:33
of 2008, 15 students from
42:36
two different universities went to the
42:38
hospital after chugging four locos. Not
42:41
great. Now this caught the attention of
42:43
the food and drug administration. Yeah not
42:45
the rape or murder or anything like
42:47
that. The guy chugging the four locos.
42:49
But in 2010 they
42:52
went on to say that there
42:54
is no evidence that mixing caffeine
42:56
and booze is safe. So colleges
42:58
they started banning four loco states,
43:00
they outlaw it and
43:02
people start hoarding it because it's such
43:05
a cheap buzz and they're worried that
43:07
it's gonna go away. I mean
43:09
and they were right. In November of 2010 the
43:12
guys at Fusion announced that
43:15
they're removing the caffeine, guarana
43:17
and taurine. And the
43:19
company was left with about 30 million
43:21
dollars of inventory that they couldn't sell.
43:23
So the ride or dies of four
43:25
loco literally like held, I'm not kidding,
43:28
they held a candlelight vigil in Union
43:30
Square in New York in honor of
43:32
the original recipe. Overnight
43:36
an underground market like springs up
43:38
where people are selling OG four
43:40
locos for like 50 bucks a
43:42
pop. So it was just a
43:44
matter of time before some company
43:46
pushed the boundary so much that
43:48
it raised the questions people should
43:51
have been asking all along. Can
43:53
energy drinks be trusted? Are
43:56
they horrible for us? I mean first
43:58
of all energy drinks promise enhanced mental
44:00
and physical performance, right? But it's a
44:02
very subjective thing to say, like how
44:05
do you actually measure that? In
44:07
reality, the evidence shows that if
44:09
anything quote unquote works, it's
44:12
the caffeine, not necessarily the other stuff in
44:14
the energy drink. And then the safety of
44:16
these energy drinks are questioned because negative health
44:18
impacts are linked to them. I mean, for
44:20
example, 2011, the Substance Abuse and
44:24
Mental Health Services Administration reported that
44:26
20,783 people went to the ER
44:32
after drinking energy drinks. I
44:35
mean, that's 2011. And
44:37
of that number, 1,499 of them were kids aged 12
44:39
to 17. The
44:44
American Academy of Pediatrics states that
44:47
caffeine and other stimulants in energy
44:49
drinks should never be consumed by
44:51
kids or teenagers, yet 30 to
44:54
50% of them report
44:56
drinking energy drinks. Oh,
44:59
that's not good. I mean, here's
45:01
what we do know. Energy
45:03
drinks significantly increase the risk
45:06
of caffeine intoxication. If you're
45:08
like me, you're like caffeine
45:10
intoxication. That's
45:12
a thing. Is that a thing? Really?
45:15
Is that a thing? It's a thing.
45:17
It's a very real thing. Experts say
45:19
like symptoms include restlessness, twitching,
45:23
gastrointestinal problems, and
45:25
chronic daily headaches.
45:28
And on top of that, there are
45:30
even four psychiatric disorders that can be
45:32
linked to energy drinks. Two
45:34
of them are quote caffeine induced
45:37
anxiety disorder and caffeine
45:39
induced sleep disorder. Oh
45:41
my God. So it's like
45:44
not just about getting the jitters, there are
45:47
some real long-term consequences. Which
45:49
reminds me, did you guys watch that true
45:51
life episode I'm addicted to energy drinks? Tell
45:53
me you watched that. It was on MTV
45:55
years ago and these people were addicted to
45:57
energy drinks. There was this girl, never forget
45:59
it. She was like tweaking out because
46:02
she couldn't stop drinking energy drinks and she looked
46:05
like she was 40 and a
46:08
smoker and I don't mean that like I mean like a hard
46:10
40, but she was like 20 Oh,
46:13
it had aged her horribly and
46:16
she just oh, I'll never forget it. It scared
46:18
me. Look up that episode It's on Hulu. I
46:20
think Let me know in
46:22
the comment section. It's wild. It's rough and it's
46:24
scary Anyways, one
46:27
study of 15 and 16 year
46:29
olds showed a connection between
46:31
high caffeine intake and violent
46:33
behavior There's several reports that
46:35
suggest energy drinks contribute to
46:37
stroke and seizures Good
46:41
on top of that if a person
46:43
has enough caffeine they can hallucinate what?
46:46
yeah, not to mention all the
46:48
sugar increases the risk for obesity
46:50
and diabetes and Somehow
46:52
when you hear that stuff, you're
46:54
like, mmm bored don't care You
46:58
know, we still don't really care and I
47:00
don't know why how do we get us
47:02
to care? I don't know.
47:04
I think because we're so like everything causes
47:07
obesity and diabetes and in America
47:09
feels like so it's like just
47:11
added to the list right
47:16
Anyhow in 2021 Frontiers
47:19
and cardiovascular medicine reported that there
47:21
have been at least 34 deaths
47:24
linked to energy drinks over the years
47:27
I say at least because it's believed that
47:29
the number is like much higher and the
47:31
reason is because it's on the consumers
47:34
to report bad experiences with energy
47:36
drinks to the food and drug
47:38
administration Meaning like
47:40
it's voluntary like no
47:43
one is enforcing it So
47:45
you have to report it You
47:47
know, so only a small number gets
47:49
reported like the story of a nice
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49:38
was just being a teenager and like hanging
49:40
out with her friend. Apparently she drank two
49:42
24 ounce Monster Energy
49:44
drinks in a 24 hour period.
49:48
Now before you're like oh well where was
49:51
her mom? She should have been watching what
49:53
she was drinking. Whatever. Shut
49:55
your mouth because so many teenagers
49:57
after school you're hanging out with.
50:00
friends, you go to the local convenience store,
50:02
you pick up a drink, like no one's
50:04
carding you to get energy drinks, you know
50:06
what I'm saying? Like it's so easy to
50:08
get them. And if you're a
50:10
parent who works, you can't patrol your teenager all the
50:13
time. You know, so like, just want
50:15
to stop it before I see those comments
50:17
because I know some of you will. Anywho,
50:19
she drinks two 24 ounce monster drinks in
50:22
less than 24 hours. So not
50:25
great. Well, her mom comes, comes home
50:27
or answers the room
50:29
and like finds her slumped on her side
50:31
on the couch. And I guess she like
50:33
tapped her daughter's cheek and she's calling her
50:35
name, you know? And I guess Anise gasped
50:37
for a moment and then her eyes rolled
50:40
into the back of her head and
50:42
she stopped breathing. Anise was put
50:45
into a medically induced coma so
50:47
doctors could regain control of her
50:49
vital signs. But unfortunately they couldn't.
50:52
On December 23rd, 2011, Anise Fournier passed away. Oh, and
50:54
while other
50:59
families were like opening Christmas presents and
51:01
like celebrating the holiday, so
51:04
sad. Her family was suffering
51:06
this major loss and Anise
51:08
was undergoing an autopsy. The
51:11
autopsy report stated she quote,
51:13
died of cardiac arrhythmia due
51:15
to caffeine toxicity that impeded
51:17
her heart's ability to pump
51:19
blood end quote. The
51:21
Fournier family filed a lawsuit against
51:23
monster for wrongful death. Monster Energy
51:25
and the family ended up settling
51:27
a lawsuit in the summer 2015.
51:30
We don't know how much they settled for but either way it's
51:32
not gonna bring, it's not gonna bring their daughter
51:35
back, you know? It was just sad.
51:37
And then there's the other side of the
51:39
energy drink people, you know? A lot
51:41
of the supporters claim that there
51:44
are actually tons of benefits to
51:46
the beverage. And to be fair,
51:48
you know, there's always two sides
51:50
to every story. And so like,
51:52
are there benefits to drinking energy
51:54
drinks? Well, several studies and reports
51:56
say yes. I'd bet
51:59
that they were being paid. by these
52:01
energy drink companies. Should've
52:04
looked into this, yeah. But
52:06
look, it's been shown that
52:08
improved memory, there's better
52:11
reaction time, better concentration, increased
52:14
alertness and elevated mood
52:17
have been linked to sipping on energy drinks.
52:21
Yeah, probably because you're all caffeinated out, you're
52:24
like, yeah! Like, you just, ah! God,
52:28
right? And there's
52:30
another major study that says
52:32
energy drinks can enhance aerobic
52:34
endurance and performance. I
52:36
know most people doing these are not doing aerobics. Is
52:39
that what they're getting at? What's aerobic endurance? It
52:42
doesn't matter. That's because there are some proven
52:44
ingredients that affect us functionally,
52:46
like B vitamins. But
52:49
even when studies are showing that energy
52:51
drinks can have some positive effects, there's
52:53
still a disclaimer. According to
52:55
a report published in the International
52:58
Journal of Health Sciences, it
53:00
says, quote, over ambitious marketing and non-scientific
53:02
claims should be regulated by
53:05
governments until independent studies confirm
53:07
that these products are safe.
53:10
Yeah, you would think, huh? But
53:12
not here in America. Unfortunately,
53:15
in the digital age, regulating
53:17
the marketing of energy drinks
53:19
is pretty much impossible.
53:23
In 2013, two senators launched
53:25
an investigation on energy drinks
53:27
and released a report called
53:29
Buzzkill. It was kind of a great name.
53:32
I'll give them that. It showed
53:34
that energy drink companies frequently targeted
53:37
high school kids and young kids
53:39
with social media ad campaigns. So
53:41
that Buzzkill report found that energy
53:43
drink flavors, packaging, and marketing are
53:46
designed to appeal to
53:48
young people. And they're like, we did
53:50
it, you guys. Case closed. That's
53:53
all they did with that information. So
53:55
it sounds like they're a whole lot of red flags
53:57
waving in the world of energy drinks, right? Pretty.
54:00
marketing campaigns seem to be happening.
54:03
There's too much caffeine floating out around
54:05
there. There are young, healthy kids having
54:07
heart attacks and young people are dying.
54:10
So it's like, how the hell does
54:12
the energy drink industry get away with all
54:14
this? Well, it's a tale
54:16
as old as time. Tale
54:19
as old as time. Don't
54:23
you love that song? I know, too
54:25
bad. It's kind of like we're
54:27
ruining it. But energy drink companies, they
54:29
exploit a nice big legal
54:32
loophole. And it all comes down
54:34
to a simple question. Are
54:37
energy drinks considered food
54:39
or a dietary supplement?
54:42
Hmm. You see, if
54:44
it's a food, certain laws apply
54:46
to the ingredients and labeling of the
54:48
product. But even then, our expert calls
54:50
this a quote, ask
54:53
for forgiveness market.
54:55
Meaning there is no prior
54:57
approval for food and non-alcoholic
55:00
beverages, which is like, ah,
55:02
that's so scary. Like
55:04
if some ingredients are reported as problematic,
55:06
then the FDA sends a warning letter.
55:09
They're like, hey, don't
55:11
do that. And then the company says like,
55:13
oh, sorry, won't happen again.
55:16
But look, if it's considered a
55:18
dietary supplement, it's kind
55:20
of like the Wild West and like
55:22
pretty much anything goes. Yeah,
55:24
I mean, which is kind of weird,
55:26
huh? Cause you think dietary supplement, I
55:29
would assume supplement would have more like
55:31
rules and regulations for some reason, but
55:33
yeah, there's none. I
55:35
could put, I could shit right now in a can
55:39
and water it down and I'll be like, hey, this
55:41
will give you energy and I could sell it. And
55:43
be like, yeah, this is great. Like energy. And then
55:45
you guys would all be drinking my shit. And guess
55:47
what? I could do that. So
55:51
isn't that a little concerning? Aren't we concerned?
55:53
With that being said, I have something to show you. I've been working on.
55:57
Just kidding. Paul's holding it over here. It's
55:59
called. Jones? What's
56:01
it called? It's
56:04
called Joan Bull. No,
56:07
she didn't shit in a can and we wanted,
56:09
no, we didn't do that. It
56:12
gives you wings, you see? Wings.
56:16
Yeah, we didn't test it or anything, but
56:18
don't you want it? Cause it has Joan's name on
56:20
it. Huh? And
56:22
look, tits. Now
56:24
you really want it. Don't you want to be like
56:26
us, huh, Joan? Show of tits, show of tits. Let's
56:30
begin. Okay, great. You can
56:32
find it at your local Dollar Tree, 99 cents,
56:35
because I want everyone
56:38
to have it. Joan does. Not
56:41
me. Lots of flavors.
56:43
There's delicious chocolate,
56:47
California raisin, cilantro.
56:53
What'd you, bird food. Like there's
56:55
lots of flavors, depending on what was
56:57
eaten the day before, but
57:00
yeah, you can find it at
57:02
your local Dollar Tree. You're welcome, worlds. So
57:06
with that being said, aren't you a little worried?
57:09
If you could do that so easily,
57:11
isn't that a little concerning? Like nobody
57:13
is checking. And I hope
57:15
I'm not giving anyone ideas out there, but
57:17
like no one is checking. Is that not
57:19
scary? Oh my God. Yeah.
57:23
And we're drinking it. I
57:25
drink it. I'm a hypocrite. And then
57:27
here's the best part. The company
57:29
itself, Joan over here, if she shits in
57:31
a can, she can decide if
57:34
the product is food or
57:36
a supplement. She's like, hey, it's
57:38
a supplement. Then I could skip
57:40
all the regulations. And guess what? Some
57:44
energy drink companies categorize their
57:46
beverages as a supplement. That's
57:49
because the ingredients in dietary
57:52
supplements are not required
57:54
to have FDA approval before
57:56
they're sold to humans. You're
58:00
drinking shit. I'm
58:03
just kidding. I'm gonna get sued, aren't
58:05
I? Damn it. Anyhow, but like the
58:08
FDA doesn't, they do not regulate the
58:10
amount of caffeine and
58:12
other stimulants or anything that is
58:15
found in energy drinks. That
58:17
should be the takeaway, really, right? That's
58:19
a bigger problem. So here's a
58:21
good example of a difference between food and
58:23
supplement. Now, according to
58:26
the FDA, soda is food.
58:29
Don't ask questions. Soda is food. So
58:31
it can't have more than 71 milligrams
58:33
of caffeine in a 12 ounce
58:36
can and claim to
58:38
be soda. You can't do that. No, no.
58:40
But for the energy drinks that are labeled
58:42
as supplements, there
58:44
is no rule for
58:47
the caffeine content. There's
58:49
no rule. A bunch of other
58:51
countries consider energy drinks to be so
58:53
dangerous that they will not sell to
58:55
kids. On January 1st, 2024, last year,
58:57
Poland, oh,
59:00
it is this year. It's 2024, my bad. Poland,
59:03
they made it illegal for anyone
59:05
under the age of 18 to
59:07
buy energy drinks. Holy shit, I
59:10
know they did that. Norway, they
59:12
banned the advertising of unhealthy food
59:14
to children under 18. Now,
59:18
I don't know, it seems like they care,
59:20
don't they? Yeah. I
59:22
mean, this new law ban selling energy drinks to kids younger
59:24
than 16. In general, things
59:26
are stricter in Canada and Europe. When
59:29
it comes to caffeine content and warning
59:31
labels, the European Union
59:33
says that they must be slapped on
59:35
the front of the can. But
59:38
in the US, caffeine content is usually
59:40
teeny tiny in
59:43
this tiny little font, you need a little
59:45
magnifying glass on the back of the can.
59:47
And it's lost in the mix of everything
59:49
else. You'll never see it. You'll
59:52
never see it. And at the end of the
59:54
day, there is no legal limit to the amount
59:56
of caffeine that companies can put in energy
59:58
drinks. Again, it's very
1:00:01
concerning, okay? Most
1:00:03
health experts and the FDA agree
1:00:05
that up to 400 milligrams of
1:00:07
caffeine a day is safe for
1:00:09
an adult, okay? 400
1:00:11
milligrams. But just
1:00:14
one 16 ounce can
1:00:16
of Bang Energy has
1:00:20
300 milligrams of caffeine in it. Oh
1:00:24
dear, yeah. But
1:00:26
I know the Bang Energy, like, they're so
1:00:28
cute looking, you kinda want one. It's sick,
1:00:30
it's sick. I'm making excuses because the can
1:00:32
is cute. Now you can
1:00:34
argue that kids can just as easily
1:00:36
buy soda and coffee, like, whenever they
1:00:39
want, which also have caffeine. But in
1:00:41
my opinion, energy drinks are just marketed
1:00:43
different. It's like they're targeting
1:00:46
kids and no one seems to be
1:00:48
enforcing anything, right? And it feels like
1:00:50
that's how energy drink companies like
1:00:52
it. Because
1:00:55
it helped them bring in like about $20
1:00:57
billion in revenue in America
1:00:59
just last year. You think they're gonna
1:01:01
stop? I don't think so. Someone
1:01:04
once told me advertising puts a
1:01:06
product in a person's mind, but
1:01:09
marketing puts a product
1:01:12
in someone's heart. So
1:01:14
that's why I think energy drinks are
1:01:16
personal to people. They're tied to
1:01:19
a lifestyle and identity. And when
1:01:22
they don't deliver, people get salty.
1:01:24
Like in 2013, a man
1:01:26
named Benjamin, he sued
1:01:29
Red Bull for false advertising. He said
1:01:31
that they drink promised to give him
1:01:33
wings. Oh yes,
1:01:35
oh yes. He drank it for 10 years
1:01:38
and he's like, I didn't fucking grow wings,
1:01:41
okay? He said, not only
1:01:43
did he, he didn't get wings, but also
1:01:45
he didn't even get an energy boost. He's
1:01:49
like, I'm fucking suing, because it's
1:01:51
America. And the court agreed
1:01:53
and award the plaintiffs $13 million. How
1:01:58
about we just start suing all these companies? Who's
1:02:01
in? So I don't know maybe it's on
1:02:03
us. I hate blaming
1:02:05
us. Well I mean
1:02:07
whatever like maybe it's on us for
1:02:09
buying the energy drinks and like believe
1:02:12
in the BS and like these special
1:02:14
abilities we get from them but and
1:02:17
like yeah maybe it works and stuff but like when
1:02:20
do these companies get have to
1:02:22
take any responsibility? What
1:02:24
I do know is that you can
1:02:27
pop into any convenience store and gas
1:02:29
station whatever. Energy drinks are cheap. They
1:02:31
come in delicious candy like flavors and
1:02:35
they are cute packaging some of them
1:02:37
are so colorful and you're like ooh
1:02:39
they just like they're aggressively marketing towards
1:02:41
kids like they'll have cute names like
1:02:43
unicorn rainbow flakes and you're like I
1:02:46
know a 45 year old isn't drinking
1:02:48
that well they might be but you know like that's for kids
1:02:51
and what I'm getting at is like none of that
1:02:53
is on us. Stop blaming us.
1:02:56
But maybe things are moving in the
1:02:58
right direction because Connecticut is considering a
1:03:00
law that would ban the sale of
1:03:03
energy drinks to kids under 16. So
1:03:06
there's that. Guess
1:03:08
we can't sell our energy your energy drink
1:03:10
there Joan. But
1:03:14
I'll leave you with something fun. I found
1:03:16
a slogan generator online so I put my
1:03:18
name as the prompt. When
1:03:21
you know when I launched my own competing
1:03:24
energy drink to Jones and
1:03:26
my slogan will be come to
1:03:28
life come to Bailey
1:03:31
yeah drink bays. You
1:03:34
get it B-A-Y-S right next
1:03:37
to yours. So
1:03:39
yeah teenagers love energy drink I
1:03:41
think everyone kind of lowkey loves
1:03:43
an energy drink but you know
1:03:45
what else people love? No
1:03:48
not that. Gossip. Yeah
1:03:51
I mean how we all love some
1:03:53
gossip the minute someone looks over
1:03:55
their shoulder to see if anyone is
1:03:58
around and then starts talking in
1:04:00
a hushed tone, I am
1:04:02
listening. And there's a lot of like hand movements
1:04:04
and they're like, girl, uh-uh, uh-uh, and they're doing
1:04:07
all this. I'm
1:04:09
in. You know, tell me everything,
1:04:12
Barbara. Tell me. And
1:04:14
that made me wonder. Gossip is a
1:04:16
very powerful thing. It has been around
1:04:18
forever and it's like
1:04:20
we can be addicted to it. But
1:04:23
who invented American gossip as we know
1:04:25
it today? And like, when did Hollywood
1:04:27
gossip begin? I think it actually started
1:04:29
in the Bible, huh? Well, turns
1:04:31
out this story starts with a gossipy
1:04:33
little officer in the American
1:04:35
Civil War and ends with
1:04:37
an actress in the golden
1:04:40
age of Hollywood. Come back
1:04:42
next week for the dark history of gossip.
1:04:47
Eee! Well, friends, thank you for hanging
1:04:49
out with me today. What did we learn? Uh-huh,
1:04:52
mm-hmm, great. I love that, good for you.
1:04:54
Hey, did you know you can join me
1:04:56
over on my YouTube where you can actually
1:04:58
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1:05:15
hear your guys' reactions to today's story, so make
1:05:17
sure to leave a comment down below in the
1:05:19
comments section or use the hashtag dark history
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over on social media so I can see what you're
1:05:24
saying. But leave a comment
1:05:26
because like we read comments here. We,
1:05:28
meaning me. But Joan reads
1:05:30
too. Ah, ah! Okay, but let's read some
1:05:32
comments that you guys left me. Username
1:05:35
Lame7814, love that username, left
1:05:40
us a comment on our Kennedy episode
1:05:42
saying, "'Fun fact, the White House pool
1:05:44
"'is now the press room you see
1:05:46
on TV. "'It was simply drained and
1:05:48
filled with chairs. "'You can absolutely tell
1:05:50
it was a pool. "'Very little effort
1:05:52
was made to disguise this, "'except for
1:05:54
the podium and draping you see on
1:05:57
TV. "'It is quite small by both
1:05:59
pool and press. Press Room standards.
1:06:02
I can't believe they would cover up the pool. I
1:06:04
mean, how cool it would be to be like, I went
1:06:06
swimming at the White House because people would be like, what?
1:06:08
You went swimming at the White House? They have a pool?
1:06:10
And you'd be like, yeah, they have a pool. But now
1:06:12
you can't even see that because they don't even have a
1:06:14
pool anymore. Just like Press Room? Well,
1:06:18
thanks for sharing the fun fact. I definitely love
1:06:20
that. Use your name, Lane. Great
1:06:22
fun fact. XXMonicaLuwinski had
1:06:26
a question for me. Hey, Mother.
1:06:28
I need to know which character
1:06:30
was your favorite in recess? Spinelli.
1:06:34
Need I say more? Spinelli all day? That's
1:06:37
right. Alika Dahlia had an episode
1:06:39
suggestion for us. Can you do
1:06:42
the dark history of April Fools?
1:06:45
That's a great episode suggestion
1:06:47
because, yeah, why? Why, when,
1:06:50
where, how, what, how? Who's
1:06:52
responsible for literally like, making
1:06:55
the first day of April a joke? That's
1:06:57
a good one. I like that. Thanks for that
1:06:59
recommendation. I will look into this and report
1:07:01
back. Thank you so much. I
1:07:03
love you guys for watching and also for
1:07:05
engaging and commenting. Don't
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forget to leave a comment down below because maybe
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you'll be featured in our next episode. Hey?
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And hey, if you don't know,
1:07:16
dark history is an audio boom original.
1:07:19
A special thank you to our expert,
1:07:21
John Craven, founder and CEO of BevNet.
1:07:24
Wow. And
1:07:27
I'm your host, Bailey Sarian. I hope you
1:07:29
have a good rest of your day. You
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make good choices and I will be
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