She's baaaaack... and this time, she's a REAL AUTHOR (just in case you, like Michelle Icard herself, didn't believe that until this time around). And that endearing humility and humor are reasons #4,000 and 4,001 why you'll love her so.

On this episode of "Date Night with Jake and Page" Michelle joins your hosts to discuss her THIRD BOOK, "8 Setbacks That Can Make a Child a Success." They discuss the reframing of the word, "failure," which middle school archetype each person was in middle school (and how to correctly pronounce the word, "archetype"), and Michelle calls Jake out on thinking he was dating Kate Hudson (spoiler-alert: he wasn't). Check out Michelle's latest spot on the TODAY SHOW and her website michelleicard.com for more!

*This episode of "Date Night with Jake and Page" was brought to you by Big Brothers Big Sisters of the Central Carolinas providing mentors for kids in this region since 1972! BBBS serves more than 1,500 kids in Mecklenburg, Cabarrus and York counties, through traditional community- and school-based mentoring and innovative specialty programs that connect caring adults with local children in meaningful one-to-one relationships. Come support "The Big Toast" with Jake and Page Thursday, October 5th at The Collector's Room! If you can't make it that night of course you can always donate to mentorship or become a sponsor too. Check out BBBS Central Carolinas on Instagram and Facebook for more!

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