David talks with Suzan Shown Harjo, (Cheyenne & Hodulgee Muscogee) recipient of a 2014 Presidential Medal of Freedom, and renowned advocate for Native American rights. She is a poet, writer, lecturer, curator, and policy advocate who has helped Native peoples recover more than one million acres of tribal lands and fight against the use of racist mascots.

"Path Lit by Lightning: The Life of Jim Thorpe" is available at bookstores or online at:https://davidmaraniss.com/library/path-lit-by-lightning-the-life-of-jim-thorpe/