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1:11

And now let's listen in to President

1:13

Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump

1:16

in the first presidential debate of 2024.

1:20

Welcome to the general election. Good

1:29

evening. I'm Dana Bash, anchor of

1:31

CNN's Inside Politics and co-anchor of State of

1:33

the Union. I'm Jake Tapper, anchor of

1:35

CNN's The Lead and co-anchor of State of the

1:38

Union. Dana and I

1:40

will co-moderate this evening. Our job

1:42

is to facilitate a debate between

1:44

the two candidates tonight. Before

1:46

we introduce them, we want to share the rules of the

1:49

debate with the audience at home. Former

1:51

President Trump will be on the left side of the

1:53

screen. President Biden will be

1:55

appearing on the right. A coin toss

1:57

determines their positions. Each candidate

1:59

will have two minutes to answer

2:02

a question and one minute each

2:04

for responses and rebuttals. An

2:06

additional minute for follow-up clarification or

2:08

response is at the

2:10

moderator's discretion. When it's

2:12

time for a candidate to speak his

2:15

microphone will be turned on and his

2:17

opponent's microphone will be turned off. Should

2:20

a candidate interrupt when his microphone is

2:22

muted he will be difficult to understand

2:24

for viewers at home. At

2:27

the end of the debate each

2:29

candidate will get two minutes for

2:31

closing statements. There is no studio

2:33

audience tonight. Free written notes, props

2:35

or contact with campaign staff are

2:37

not permitted during the debate. By

2:39

accepting our invitation to debate both

2:42

candidates and their campaigns agreed

2:44

to accept these rules. Now

2:47

please welcome the 46th President of

2:49

the United States, Joe Biden. And

3:04

please welcome the 45th President of the

3:06

United States, Donald Trump. Gentlemen,

3:19

thanks so much for being here. Let's

3:21

begin the debate and let's start with

3:24

the issue that voters consistently say is

3:26

their top concern the economy. President

3:28

Biden, inflation has slowed but

3:31

prices remain high. Since

3:33

you took office the price of essentials has

3:35

increased. For example, a basket of groceries that

3:37

cost $100 then now costs more than $120

3:39

and typical

3:43

home prices have jumped more than 30%. What

3:46

do you say to voters who feel they are

3:48

worse off under your presidency than they were under

3:51

President Trump? We got to take a look at

3:53

what I was left when I became president and

3:55

what Mr. Trump loved me. We had

3:57

an economy that was in freefall. The pandemic

3:59

was... so badly handled. Many

4:02

people were dying. All he said was, it's

4:04

not that serious, just inject a little bleach

4:06

into your arm. You'll be all right. The

4:08

economy collapsed. There were no jobs. Unemployment rate

4:10

rose to 15 percent. It was terrible. And

4:12

so what we had to do is try

4:15

to put things back together again. And that's

4:17

exactly what we began to do. We created

4:20

15,000 new jobs. We

4:22

brought out another position where we have 800,000

4:24

new manufacturing jobs. But

4:26

there's more to be done. There's more to be

4:28

done. Working class people are still in trouble. I

4:31

come from Scranton, Pennsylvania. I come up household. We're at

4:33

a kitchen table. If the things weren't able to be

4:35

met during the month, it was a problem. The price

4:38

of eggs, the price of gas, the price of housing,

4:40

the price of a whole range of things. That's why

4:42

I'm working so hard to make sure I deal

4:45

with those problems. And we're going to make sure

4:47

that we reduce the price of housing. We're going

4:49

to make sure we build two million new units.

4:51

We're going to make sure we cap rents so

4:53

corporate greed can't take over. The combination of what

4:55

I was left with in corporate greed is the

4:58

reason why I'm reading this problem right now. In

5:00

addition to that, we're in a situation where

5:03

if you had to take a look at all that was

5:05

done in his administration, he didn't do much

5:07

at all. By the time he left, there were things

5:09

that were in chaos, literally

5:12

chaos. And so we put things

5:14

back together. We created, I said, those jobs. We

5:16

make sure we had a situation where we now,

5:19

we brought down the price of prescription drugs, which

5:21

is a major issue for many people, to

5:23

$15 for an insulin shot as opposed to

5:25

$400. No senior has to pay more than

5:30

$200 for any drug, all the drugs they

5:32

can include beginning next year. And the situation

5:35

is we're going to make that available to

5:37

everybody, to all Americans. So we're working to

5:39

bring down the price of around the kitchen

5:41

table. And that's what we're going to get

5:44

done. Thank you, President Trump.

5:47

We have the greatest economy in the history

5:49

of our country. We have

5:51

never done so well. Everybody

5:53

was amazed by it. Other countries were copying

5:56

us. We got hit with COVID.

5:59

And when we did, we did. We spent the money necessary so

6:01

we wouldn't end up in a great depression, the

6:03

likes of which we had in 1929 by the

6:05

time we finished. So

6:08

we did a great job. We got a lot of

6:10

credit for the economy, a lot of credit for the

6:12

military and no wars and so many other things. Everything

6:14

was rocking good. But the thing we

6:17

never got the credit for and we should have is

6:19

getting us out of that COVID mess. He

6:21

created mandates. That was a disaster for our

6:23

country. But other than that, we

6:26

had given them back a

6:28

country where the stock market actually

6:30

was higher than pre-COVID and nobody thought

6:32

that was even possible. The

6:35

only jobs he created are for illegal immigrants

6:37

and bounce back jobs, a bounce back from

6:39

the COVID. He has not done

6:41

a good job. He's done a poor job and

6:43

inflation is killing our country. It is absolutely killing

6:45

us. Thank you. President

6:48

Biden? Look, the greatest economy in the world. He's the only

6:50

one who thinks that, I think. I don't know anybody else

6:52

who thinks he's the greatest economy in the world. And

6:56

the fact of the matter is that we

6:59

prided ourselves in a situation where his

7:01

economy, he rewarded

7:03

the wealthy. He had the largest tax cut in

7:05

American history, $2 trillion. He

7:08

raised a deficit larger than any president has in any

7:10

one term. He's the only

7:12

president other than Herbert Hoover who's lost more

7:14

jobs than he had when he began, since

7:16

Herbert Hoover. The idea that he

7:19

did something that was significant in the military.

7:22

When he was president, there were still killing people

7:25

in Afghanistan. He didn't do anything about that.

7:27

When he was president, we still found ourselves in a

7:29

position where you had a notion

7:32

that we were this

7:34

safe country. The truth is, I'm

7:36

the only president this century that

7:38

doesn't have any, this decade, that

7:40

done any troops dying anywhere in

7:42

the world like he did. And

7:46

I want to follow up if I can. I'm not allowed to respond

7:48

to him. Well, I'm going to ask you a follow up. You can

7:51

do whatever you want with the minute that we give you. I

7:53

want to follow up. You want to impose a

7:56

10% tariff on all goods coming into the US.

7:58

How will you ensure that that? That doesn't drive prices

8:01

even higher. It's not going to drive them higher. It's

8:03

just going to cost countries that have been ripping us

8:05

off for years, like China and many others in all

8:07

fairness to China. It's going to just

8:09

force them to pay us a lot of money,

8:11

reduce our deficit tremendously, and give us a lot

8:14

of power for other things. But

8:16

he made a statement. The only thing he was

8:18

right about is I gave you the largest tax

8:20

cut in history. I also gave you the largest

8:22

regulation cut in history. That's why we had all

8:24

the jobs. The jobs went down,

8:26

and then they bounced back. He's taking credit

8:28

for bounced-back jobs. He can't do that. He

8:30

also said he inherited 9 percent inflation. No,

8:33

he inherited almost no inflation, and it stayed

8:35

that way for 14 months. And

8:38

then it blew up under his leadership because they

8:40

spent money like a bunch of people

8:42

that didn't know what they were doing. And they

8:44

don't know what they were doing. It was probably

8:46

the worst administration in history. There's never been. And

8:49

as far as Afghanistan is concerned, I

8:51

was getting out of Afghanistan, but we

8:53

were getting out with dignity, with strength,

8:55

with power. He got out.

8:57

It was the most embarrassing day in the history

9:00

of our country's life. President

9:02

Trump, over the last eight years, under

9:04

both of your administrations, the national debt

9:06

soared to record highs. And

9:08

according to a new nonpartisan analysis, President

9:10

Trump, your administration approved $8.4

9:13

trillion in new debt, while so far President

9:15

Biden, you've approved $4.3 trillion in new debt.

9:19

So, former President Trump, many of the tax cuts

9:21

that you signed into law are set to expire

9:23

next year. You want to extend them and

9:25

go even further, you say. With the

9:28

U.S. facing trillion-dollar deficits and record debt,

9:30

why should top earners and corporations pay

9:32

even less in taxes than they do

9:35

now? Because the tax cuts spurred the

9:37

greatest economy that we've ever seen just

9:39

prior to COVID. And even after

9:41

COVID, it was so strong that we were able to

9:43

get through COVID much better than just about any other

9:45

country. But we spurred that tax

9:48

spirit. Now, when we cut the taxes, as

9:50

an example, the corporate tax was cut down

9:52

to 21 percent from 39

9:54

percent, plus beyond that. We

9:57

took in more revenue with much less tax.

10:00

companies were bringing back trillions of dollars back

10:02

into our country. The country was going like

10:04

never before. And we were ready to start

10:06

paying down debt. We're ready to start using

10:09

the liquid gold right under our feet, the

10:11

oil and gas right under our feet. We

10:13

were going to have something that nobody else

10:16

has had. We got hit with COVID. We

10:18

did a lot to fix it. I gave

10:20

him an unbelievable situation with all of the

10:22

therapeutics and all of the things that we

10:25

came up with. We gave

10:27

him something great. Remember, more people

10:29

died under his administration, even

10:31

though we had largely fixed it. More

10:33

people died under his administration than our

10:35

administration. And we were right in the

10:37

middle of it, something which a lot

10:39

of people don't like to talk about.

10:42

But he had far more people dying

10:44

in his administration. He did the mandate,

10:46

which is a disaster, mandating it. The

10:48

vaccine went out. He did a mandate

10:50

on the vaccine, which is the thing

10:52

that people most objected to

10:54

about the vaccine. And he did a

10:56

very poor job, just a very poor

10:58

job. And I will tell you, not

11:00

only poor there, but throughout the entire

11:02

world, we're no longer respected as a

11:05

country. They don't respect our leadership. They

11:07

don't respect the United States anymore. We're

11:09

like a third world nation between weaponization

11:11

of his election, trying to go after

11:13

his political opponent, all of

11:15

the things he's done. We've become like a

11:17

third world nation. And it's a shame. The

11:20

damage he's done to our country, and

11:22

I'd love to ask him and will why

11:24

he allowed millions of people to come

11:26

in here from prisons, jails and mental institutions

11:29

to come into our country and destroy

11:31

our country. President Trump,

11:33

we will get to immigration later in this block.

11:35

President Biden, I want to give you an opportunity

11:37

to respond to this question about the national debt.

11:40

He had the largest national debt of any president

11:42

for your period. Number one, number

11:44

two, he got two trillion

11:46

dollar tax code benefited the very wealthy.

11:49

The I what I'm going to do is fix the taxes. And for

11:52

example, we have a thousand trillionaires

11:54

in America, I mean, billionaires

11:56

in America. And what's happening there

11:58

in a situation where they It's

18:00

the opposite, but they're voting

18:02

and it's bringing it back to the vote

18:04

of the people, which is what everybody wanted,

18:06

including the founders if they knew about this

18:08

issue, which frankly they didn't. But

18:11

they would have, everybody wanted brought back. Ronald

18:13

Reagan wanted it brought back. He wasn't able

18:15

to get it. Everybody

18:17

wanted it brought back and many presidents had

18:19

tried to get it back. I

18:22

was the one to do it. And again, this

18:24

gives it the vote of the people and that's

18:26

where they wanted it. Every legal scholar wanted it

18:28

that way. Staying on

18:30

the topic of abortion, President Biden, seven

18:33

States, I'll let you do that. This

18:35

is the same topic. Seven States

18:37

have no legal restrictions on how

18:39

far into a pregnancy a woman

18:42

can obtain an abortion. Do

18:44

you support any legal limits on how

18:46

late a woman should be able to

18:48

terminate a pregnancy? I support a Roe

18:50

v. Wade, which had three semesters. First

18:53

time is between the woman and the doctor. Second

18:56

time is between the doctor and an

18:58

extreme situation. A third time is between

19:01

the doctor. I mean, between the woman

19:03

and the state. The idea

19:05

that the politicians, that

19:07

the founders wanted the politicians to be the

19:10

ones making decisions about women's health is ridiculous.

19:12

That's the last. No politicians should be making

19:14

that decision. A doctor should be making those

19:16

decisions. That's how it should be run. That's

19:19

what you're going to do. And if I'm elected, I'm going

19:21

to restore Roe v. Wade. So

19:23

that means he can take the life of

19:26

the baby in the ninth month and

19:28

even after birth because some states, Democrat

19:30

run, take it after birth again, the

19:33

governor, former governor of Virginia, put

19:35

the baby down, then we decide what to do with it.

19:38

So he's willing to, as we say, rip

19:40

the baby out of the womb in the

19:42

ninth month and kill the baby. Nobody

19:45

wants that to happen. Democrat or

19:47

Republican? Nobody wants it to happen. That

19:50

is simply not true. Roe

19:52

v. Wade does not provide for that.

19:54

That's not the circumstance. Only the woman's

19:56

life is in danger. She's going to

19:58

die. That's the only circumstance when that

20:00

guy's dead. happen. But we are not

20:02

for late-term abortion, period, period, period. Under

20:05

Roe v. Wade, you have late-term abortion. You

20:07

can do whatever you want, depending on the

20:09

state. You can do whatever you want. We

20:11

don't think that's a good thing. We think

20:13

it's a radical thing. We think the Democrats

20:15

are the radicals, not the Republicans. For 51

20:17

years, that was the law. 51 years, Constance

20:19

of Scholarship said it was the right way

20:22

to go. 51 years, and it

20:24

was taken away because this guy put very

20:26

conservative members on the Supreme Court. He takes

20:28

credit for taking it away. What's he going

20:30

to do? What's he going to do? In

20:32

fact, if the MAGA

20:35

Republicans, he gets elected and the MAGA

20:37

Republicans control the Congress and they pass

20:39

on the universal ban on abortion, period,

20:41

across the board at six weeks or

20:43

seven or eight or 10 weeks, something

20:45

very, very conservative. Is he going to

20:48

sign that bill? I'll veto it. He'll

20:50

sign it. Thank you. Let's

20:52

turn now to the issue of immigration and

20:54

border security. President Biden, a record number of

20:57

migrants have illegally crossed the southern border on

20:59

your watch, overwhelming border states

21:01

and overburdening cities such as New York

21:03

and Chicago, and in some cases, causing

21:05

real safety and security concerns. Given

21:08

that, why should voters trust you to solve

21:10

this crisis? Because we worked very

21:12

hard to get a bipartisan agreement that not

21:15

only changed all of that, made

21:17

sure that we are in a situation where

21:19

you had no circumstance where they could come

21:22

across the border with the number of

21:24

border police there are now. We significantly

21:26

increased the number of asylum officers, significantly.

21:28

By the way, the border patrol endorsed

21:31

me, endorsed my position. In

21:33

addition to that, we found ourselves in

21:36

a situation where when he was present,

21:38

he was taking, separating babies from their

21:40

mothers, putting them in cages, making sure

21:42

the families were separated. That's not the

21:44

right way to go. What I've done

21:46

since I've changed the law, what's happened?

21:48

I've changed it in a way that

21:51

now you're in a situation where there

21:53

are 40% fewer people coming across the

21:55

border illegally. That's better than when he

21:57

left office. move

22:00

until we get the total ban on

22:02

the total initiative relative to what we're

22:04

going to do with more Border Patrol

22:06

and more asylum officers. President Trump? I

22:09

really don't know what he said at

22:11

the end of that sentence. I don't

22:13

think he knows what he said either.

22:16

Look, we had the safest border in the history of our

22:18

country. All he had to do was

22:20

leave it. All he had to do was leave it. He

22:22

decided to open up our border, open up

22:24

our country to people that

22:27

are from prisons, people

22:30

that are from mental institutions, insane

22:32

asylum, terrorists. We have the largest

22:34

number of terrorists coming into our country right

22:36

now, all terrorists, all over the world, not

22:38

just in South America, all over the world.

22:40

They come from the Middle East everywhere, all

22:42

over the world. They're pouring in. This

22:45

guy just left it open. He didn't need

22:47

legislation because I didn't have legislation. I said,

22:49

close the border. We had the safest border

22:51

in history. In that final couple of months

22:53

of my presidency, we had, according to Border

22:55

Patrol, who is great. They're the only people

22:57

in the United States, in a way, who

22:59

endorsed me for president. But I won't say

23:01

that, but they endorsed me for president. Brandon,

23:04

just speak to him. But

23:06

look, we had the safest border in

23:08

history. Now we have the worst border

23:10

in history. There's never been anything like

23:12

it. And people are dying all over

23:14

the place, including the people that are

23:16

coming up in Carolinas. Thank you, President

23:18

Trump. President Biden? The only terrorist who's

23:21

done anything across the border is one

23:23

who came along and killed three under

23:25

his administration, killed an Al-Qaeda person coming

23:27

in and his administration, killed

23:29

three American soldiers, killed

23:31

three American soldiers. That's

23:33

the only terrorist that's there. I'm not saying

23:35

no terrorist ever got through with the idea

23:37

they're emptying their prisons. We're welcoming

23:39

these people. That's simply not true. There's

23:41

no data to support what he said.

23:44

Once again, he's exaggerating. He's lying. President

23:47

Trump, staying on the topic of immigration,

23:49

you've said that you're going to carry

23:51

out, quote, the largest domestic deportation operation

23:54

in American history, unquote. Does that mean

23:56

that you will deport every undocumented immigrant

23:58

in America, including those who have jobs,

24:00

including those whose spouses are citizens, and

24:02

including those who have lived here for

24:04

decades. And if so, how will you

24:06

do it? Just one second. He

24:08

said we killed three people. The

24:11

people we killed are Al-Baghdadi

24:14

and Salimani, the two greatest terrorists, biggest

24:16

terrorists anywhere in the world. And it

24:18

had a huge impact on everything, not

24:20

just border, on everything. He's

24:22

the one that killed people with the bad water, including

24:25

hundreds of thousands of people dying,

24:27

and also killing our citizens when

24:30

they come in. We

24:32

are living right now in a rat's

24:34

nest. They're killing our people in New

24:36

York, in California, in every state in

24:38

the Union, because we don't have borders

24:40

anymore. Every state is now a border.

24:43

And because of his ridiculous, insane, and

24:45

very stupid policies, people are coming in,

24:48

and they're killing our citizens at a

24:50

level that we've never seen. We call

24:52

it migrant crime. I call it Biden

24:54

migrant crime. They're killing our citizens at

24:57

a level that we've never seen before.

24:59

And you're reading it like these three

25:01

incredible young girls over the last few

25:04

days. One of them, I

25:06

just spoke to the mother, and he

25:08

just had the funeral for this girl,

25:10

12 years old. This is horrible what's

25:13

taken place, what's taken place in our

25:15

country. We're literally an

25:17

uncivilized country now. He doesn't want it to

25:19

be. He just doesn't know. He opened the

25:21

borders. Nobody's ever seen anything like. And we

25:23

have to get a lot of these people

25:25

out, and we have to get them out

25:28

fast, because they're going to destroy our country.

25:30

Just take a look at where they're living.

25:32

They're living in luxury hotels in

25:34

New York City and other places. Our

25:36

veterans are on the street. They're dying, because he

25:38

doesn't care about our veterans. He doesn't care. He

25:40

doesn't like the military at all. And

25:42

he doesn't care about our veterans. Nobody been

25:44

worse. I had the highest approval rating for

25:47

veterans taking care of the VA. He

25:49

is the worst. He's gotten rid of all the

25:51

things that I approved. Choice that I got through

25:53

Congress. All of the different things

25:55

I approved, they abandoned. We are

25:57

by far the highest, and now it's down

25:59

and low. less than half because he's done

26:01

all these great things that we did. And

26:04

I think he did it just because I approved it,

26:06

which is crazy. But he has killed

26:08

so many people at our border by allowing all of

26:10

these people to come in. And it's a very sad

26:12

day in America. President Biden, you have the mic. Every

26:14

single thing he said is a lie. Every

26:17

single one. For example, veterans are a hell of

26:19

a lot better off since I passed the PAC

26:21

DAC. One million of them

26:23

now have insurance and their families have it.

26:26

And my families have it because what happened, whether

26:28

it was Agent Orange or Burnpits, they're

26:31

all being covered now. And his

26:34

group opposed that. We're also in a situation

26:36

where we have great respect for veterans. My

26:39

son spent a year in Iraq living

26:41

one of the next one of those Burnpits,

26:43

came back with stage four glioblastoma. I

26:45

was recently in France

26:48

for D-Day, and I

26:50

spoke all about those heroes that died. I

26:52

went to the World War II cemetery,

26:54

World War I cemetery, he refused to

26:56

go to. He was standing with his four-star

26:58

general. And he told me, he said, I don't

27:00

want to go in there because there are a bunch of losers and suckers.

27:03

My son was not a loser, was not a

27:05

sucker. You're the sucker. You're the loser. President

27:08

Trump. First of all,

27:10

that was a made-up quote. Suckers and losers. They

27:12

made it up. It was in a third-rate magazine

27:14

that's failing, like many of these magazines. He

27:17

made that up. He put it in commercials.

27:19

We've notified him. We had 19 people

27:21

that said I didn't say it. And think of this. Who

27:23

would say, I'm at a cemetery or I'm

27:26

talking about our veterans because nobody's taken better

27:28

care. I'm so glad this came up, and

27:30

he brought it up. There's

27:32

nobody that's taken better care of our soldiers than

27:35

I have. To think

27:37

that I would, in front of generals

27:39

and others, say suckers and losers. We

27:41

have 19 people that said it was

27:43

never said by me. It

27:45

was made up by him, just like Russia, Russia,

27:47

Russia was made up, just like the 51 intelligence

27:50

agents are made up, just like the

27:52

new thing with the 16 economists are talking.

27:55

It's the same thing. 51

27:57

intelligence agents said that the

27:59

laptop... was Russia disinformation. It

28:01

wasn't. That came from his son

28:03

Hunter. It wasn't Russia disinformation.

28:05

He made up the suckers and losers.

28:08

So he should apologize to be right

28:10

now. Four star general stand

28:12

to your side was on your staff who

28:14

said you said it, period. That's number

28:17

one. And number two, the idea,

28:19

the idea that I have to apologize to

28:21

you for anything along the line. We've done

28:23

more for veterans than any president has in

28:26

American history, American history, and

28:28

they now are in their family. The only

28:30

sacred obligation we have as a country is to

28:32

care for our veterans when they come home and

28:34

their families and equip them when they go

28:36

to war. That's what we're doing. That's what

28:39

the VA is doing now. They're doing more

28:41

for veterans than ever before in our history.

28:43

All right. Thank you so much. Let's move to the

28:45

topic of foreign policy. I want to begin

28:47

with Russia's war against Ukraine, which

28:50

is now in its third year. Former

28:53

president Trump, Russian president Vladimir

28:55

Putin says he'll only end

28:57

this war if Russia

28:59

keeps the Ukrainian territory it is

29:01

already claimed and Ukraine

29:03

abandons its bid to join

29:06

NATO. Are Putin's terms

29:08

acceptable to you? First of all, our

29:11

veterans and our soldiers can't stand

29:13

this guy. They can't stand him.

29:15

They think he's the worst commander in chief of

29:17

that's what you call them that

29:19

we've ever had. They can't stand him. So let's

29:21

get that straight. And they like me

29:24

more than just about any of them. And

29:26

that's based on every single bit of

29:28

information. As far as Russia and Ukraine,

29:31

if we had a real president, the

29:33

president that knew, that was respected by

29:35

Putin, he would have never,

29:37

he would have never invaded Ukraine. A

29:40

lot of people are dead right now, much more

29:42

than people know. You know, they talk about numbers.

29:44

You can double those numbers, maybe triple those numbers.

29:47

He did nothing to stop it. In fact,

29:49

I think he encouraged Russia from going in.

29:51

I'll tell you what happened. He was so

29:53

bad with Afghanistan. It was such a horrible,

29:56

embarrassment, most embarrassing moment in the history of

29:58

our country that when Putin watched that

30:00

and he saw the incompetence that he should

30:02

have fired those generals like I fired the

30:04

one that you mentioned. So he's

30:06

got no love lost. But he should

30:09

have fired those generals. No general got

30:11

fired for the most embarrassing moment in

30:13

the history of our country, Afghanistan, where

30:16

we left billions of dollars of equipment

30:18

behind. We lost 13 beautiful soldiers and

30:20

38 soldiers were obliterated. And

30:22

by the way, we left people behind

30:24

too. We left American citizens behind. And

30:27

Putin saw that. He said, you know what?

30:29

I think we're going to go in

30:31

and maybe take my this is his

30:33

dream. I talked to him about his

30:36

dream. The difference is he never would

30:38

have invaded Ukraine. Never just

30:40

like Israel would have never been

30:42

invaded in a million

30:44

years by Hamas. You know why? Because

30:48

Iran was broke with me. I wouldn't let anybody

30:50

do business with them. They ran out of money.

30:52

They were broke. They had no

30:54

money for Hamas. They had no money for

30:56

anything. No money for terror. That's why you

30:58

had no terror at all during my administration.

31:01

This place, the whole world is blowing up under him.

31:05

President Biden. I've never heard so

31:07

much malarkey in my whole life. Look, the fact of the

31:09

matter is that we're in a situation where let's take the

31:12

last point first. Iran attacked

31:14

American troops, kill caused

31:16

brain damage for a number of

31:19

these troops. And he did

31:21

nothing about it recently when he was president. There

31:23

they attacked. He said they're just having headaches.

31:25

That's all it is. But he didn't do

31:28

a thing when the attack took place, number

31:30

one. Number two, we

31:32

got over 100,000 Americans and

31:34

others out of

31:36

Afghanistan during that airlift. Number

31:39

three, we found ourselves in a situation where

31:42

if you take a look at what

31:44

Trump did in Ukraine, this guy told

31:47

Ukraine, he told Trump, do whatever you

31:49

want and do whatever you want. And

31:52

that's exactly what Trump did to

31:54

Putin and encourage him. Do whatever you want. And

31:56

he went in and listen to what he said

31:58

when he went in. He was going to take.

32:00

Kiev in five days, remember? Because it's part of

32:03

the old Soviet Union. That's what he wanted to

32:05

reestablish. Kiev. And he, in fact,

32:07

didn't do it at all. He didn't, wouldn't

32:09

able to get it done. And they've lost

32:11

over, they've lost thousands and thousands of troops,

32:14

500,000 troops. Thank you. President Trump, I think

32:16

I've come back to you for one minute.

32:18

I just want to go back to

32:20

my original question, which is, are Putin's

32:22

terms acceptable to you, keeping the territory

32:24

in Ukraine? No, they're not

32:27

acceptable. But look, this is

32:29

a war that never should have started. If

32:31

we had a leader in this war, he

32:33

led everybody along. He's given $200 billion now or

32:35

more to

32:38

Ukraine. He's given $200 billion. That's a

32:40

lot of money. I don't think there's ever been

32:42

anything like it. Every time that Zelensky

32:45

comes to this country, he walks away

32:47

with $60 billion. He's the greatest salesman

32:49

ever. And I'm not knocking him. I'm

32:51

not knocking anything. I'm only saying the

32:54

money that we're spending on this war

32:56

and we shouldn't be spending, it should

32:58

have never happened. I will have that

33:00

war settled between Putin

33:03

and Zelensky as president-elect

33:05

before I take office on January 20th.

33:07

I'll have that war settled. People

33:09

being killed so needlessly, so stupidly,

33:11

and I will get it settled

33:13

and I'll get it settled fast

33:15

before I take office. And

33:18

then why don't you have a minute? The

33:20

fact is that Putin is a war criminal.

33:23

He's killed thousands and thousands

33:25

of people. And he has

33:27

made one thing clear. He wants to

33:29

reestablish what was part of the Soviet empire,

33:32

not just a peace. He wants all of

33:34

Ukraine. That's what he wants. And then do

33:36

you think he'll stop there? Do you think

33:38

he'll stop if he takes Ukraine? What do

33:40

you think happens to Poland? What do you

33:42

think of Belarus? What do you think happens

33:44

to those NATO countries? And so

33:47

if you want a war, you ought to find

33:49

out what he's going to do, because if in

33:51

fact he does what he says and walks away.

33:53

And by the way, all that money

33:55

we give Ukraine and from weapons we make here in

33:57

the United States, we give him the weapons. political

48:00

opponent because he thought it was going to damage

48:02

me. But when the public found out about these

48:04

cases, because they understand him better than he does,

48:06

he has no idea what these cases are. But

48:08

when they found out about these cases,

48:10

you know what they did? My poll

48:13

numbers went up way up, you know

48:15

that, because you're reporting it. And we

48:17

took in more money in the last

48:19

two weeks than we've ever taken in

48:21

the history of any campaign. I don't

48:23

think any campaign has ever taken hundreds

48:25

of millions of dollars came pouring in

48:27

because the public knows it's a scam

48:29

and it's a guy that's after his

48:31

political opponent because he can't win fair

48:33

and square. Thank you, President Trump. President

48:35

Biden, you have said, quote, Donald Trump

48:37

and his MAGA Republicans are determined to

48:39

destroy American democracy. Do you

48:41

believe that the tens of millions of

48:44

Americans who are likely to vote for

48:46

President Trump will be voting against American

48:48

democracy? The more they know about what

48:50

he's done, yes. The more

48:52

they know about what he's done. And

48:54

there's not more coming. He's got a lot of cases on

48:56

the road coming around. He's got a

48:59

whole range of issues he has to face.

49:01

I don't know what the jury's will do,

49:03

but I do know he has a real

49:05

problem. And so the fact that, could

49:07

you ever think you heard any president say

49:09

that I'm going to seek retribution? Do you

49:11

ever hear any president say that I thought

49:14

Hitler had some good ideas? What got me

49:16

involved to run the first place after my

49:18

son had died, I decided in Iraq because

49:20

of Iraq, I said I wasn't going to run

49:22

again until I saw what happened

49:24

in Charlottesville, Virginia. People coming

49:26

out of the woods carrying swastikas

49:28

on torches, and singing

49:31

the same anastomatic bile they sang back

49:34

in Germany. And a

49:36

young woman got killed. I spoke to the mother. And

49:39

they asked him, they said, what do

49:41

you think of those people? The people who got

49:43

killed, the ones who tried to stop it, and

49:46

the ones, he said, I think they're fine people

49:48

on both sides. What

49:50

American president would ever say Nazis coming out

49:52

of fields carrying the people of Germany,

49:55

torches, singing the same

49:57

anastomatic bile, carrying swastikas?

50:00

or find people. And this is a

50:02

guy who says Hitler's done some good things. I'd like to

50:04

know what they are. Good things Hitler's

50:06

done. That's what he said. This guy has

50:08

no sense of American democracy. President

50:11

Trump. Jake, both of you know that story

50:13

has been totally wiped out, because

50:16

when you see the sentence, it said 100%

50:19

exoneration on that. So he just keeps it

50:21

going. He says he ran because of Charlottesville.

50:23

He didn't run because of Charlottesville. He ran

50:26

because it was his last chance. He's

50:28

not equipped to be president. You know

50:30

it. And I know it. It's ridiculous.

50:32

We have a debate. We're trying to

50:34

justify his presidency. His presidency, without

50:37

question, the worst president, the worst presidency

50:39

in the history of our country, we

50:41

shouldn't be having a debate about it.

50:44

There's nothing to debate. He made up

50:46

the Charlottesville story. And you'll see it's

50:48

debunked all over the place. Every anchor

50:51

has every reasonable actor has debunked it.

50:53

And just the other day it came

50:55

out where it was fully debunked. It's

50:58

a nonsense story. He knows that. And he

51:00

didn't run because of Charlottesville. He used that

51:02

as an excuse to run. President

51:05

Biden. And debunked. It happened. All

51:08

you have to do is listen to what was said at the time. And

51:11

the idea that somehow that's the only reason I

51:13

ran. I ran because I was

51:15

worried a guy like this guy could get

51:17

elected. If he thought they were good people

51:19

coming out of that all that forest, Kerry

51:22

knows those woods, Kerry knows torches, then he

51:24

didn't deserve to be president. Didn't deserve to

51:26

be president at all. And the idea that

51:28

he's talking about all this being fabricated, we

51:31

saw with our own eyes, we saw what

51:33

happened on January 6th. We saw the people

51:35

breaking through the windows. We saw people occupying

51:38

their own vice president. Look, there's a reason

51:40

why 40 of his 44 top

51:42

cabinet officers refused to endorse him

51:44

this time. His vice president hasn't

51:46

endorsed him this time. So why?

51:49

Why they know him well, they serve with him.

51:51

Why are they not endorsing him? Thank

51:54

you, President Biden. We're going to be right back

51:56

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52:44

Supreme Court appears poised to put an end

52:46

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52:48

talking about this case. Do college

52:51

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it's cultural discrimination. Should race factor

52:56

into college admissions? You cannot remedy

52:58

discrimination with new discrimination. How do

53:00

we assure equal opportunity for all?

53:03

If you get rid of affirmative

53:05

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53:07

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53:12

MSNBC. Welcome to the debate

53:23

live from Georgia. Let's

53:26

talk about persistent challenges you both faced

53:28

in your first terms and you'd certainly

53:30

face again in a second term. President

53:34

Biden, while Black unemployment dropped

53:36

to a record low under

53:38

your presidency, Black families still

53:40

earn far less than white

53:42

families. Black mothers are

53:44

still three times more likely to

53:46

die from pregnancy related causes. And

53:49

Black Americans are imprisoned at five

53:51

times the rate of white Americans.

53:54

What do you say to Black voters who are

53:56

disappointed that you haven't made more progress? a

54:00

lot of progress, number one. The fact of the

54:02

matter is there are more small black businesses that

54:04

have been started than any time in history. Number

54:07

two, the wages of black, black

54:10

unemployment is the lowest level to spend in a

54:12

long, long time. Number three, we

54:14

find it been provided housing for

54:17

black Americans and dealing with

54:19

segregation that exists among these

54:22

corporate, these corporate operations that

54:24

collude to keep people out

54:26

of their houses. And in

54:29

addition to that, we find

54:31

that the impact of on

54:33

the choice

54:37

that black families have to

54:39

make relative to childcare is

54:41

incredibly difficult. When we did

54:43

the first major piece of legislation in the

54:45

past, I was able to reduce black childcare

54:48

costs, cut them in half,

54:50

in half. We're going to make

54:53

sure we provide for childcare costs. We

54:55

got to make sure because when you

54:57

provide that childcare protections, you increase economic

54:59

growth because more people can be in

55:01

the job market. So there's

55:04

more to be done, considerably more to be

55:06

done. But we've done a great deal so

55:08

far and I'm not letting up and they know it. You

55:11

have 49 seconds left. What

55:13

do you say to black voters who

55:15

are disappointed with the progress so far? I

55:18

say I don't blame them for being disappointed.

55:20

Inflation is still hurting them badly. For example,

55:22

I provided for the idea

55:24

that any black family first

55:26

time homebuyers should get a $10,000 tax

55:29

credit to be able to buy their

55:31

first home so they can

55:33

get started. I made sure that we're

55:35

in a situation where all those black

55:37

families and those black individuals who provided,

55:39

they had to take out student loans

55:41

that were ballooning, that if

55:43

they were engaged in nursing, anything

55:47

happy to do with volunteerism. If

55:50

they paid their bills for 10 years

55:52

and their student debt, all the rest

55:54

are forgiven after 10 years. Millions have

55:56

benefited from that and we're going to do

55:58

a whole lot more for black. families.

56:01

Thank you, President Trump. And he

56:03

caused the inflation. He's blaming inflation. And

56:06

he's right. It's been very bad. He

56:08

caused the inflation and it's killing black

56:10

families and Hispanic families and just about

56:12

everybody. It's killing people. They

56:15

can't buy groceries anymore. They can't you

56:17

look at the cost of food where

56:19

it's doubled and tripled and quadrupled. They

56:22

can't live. They're not living anymore. He

56:25

caused this inflation. I gave him a

56:27

country with no essentially no inflation. It was

56:29

perfect. It was so good. All he had

56:31

to do is leave it alone. He destroyed

56:33

it with his green new scam and

56:35

all of the other all this money

56:38

that's being thrown out the window. He

56:40

caused inflation. As sure as you're sitting

56:42

there, the fact is

56:44

that his big kill on

56:46

the black people is the millions of

56:49

people that he's allowed to come in through the

56:51

border. They're taking black jobs now and it could

56:53

be 18. It could be 19 and

56:55

even 20 million people. They're taking black jobs

56:58

and they're taking Hispanic jobs and you haven't

57:00

seen it yet. But you're going to see

57:02

something that's going to be the worst in

57:04

our history. Thank you. President Biden. There

57:07

was no inflation when I

57:09

became president. You know why? The economy was

57:11

flat on its back. 50%

57:14

unemployment. He decimated the economy. Absolutely

57:16

decimated the economy. That's why there

57:18

was no inflation at the time.

57:20

There were no jobs. We provided

57:22

thousands of millions of jobs for

57:24

individuals who are in all communities,

57:26

including minority communities. We made sure

57:28

that they have health insurance. We

57:30

have covered. If the ACA has

57:32

increased, I made sure that they're

57:36

$8,000 per person in a family to get

57:38

written off for health care. But this guy wants

57:40

to eliminate that. They tried 50 times. He wants

57:42

to get rid of the ACA again and they're

57:45

going to try again if they win.

57:47

We find ourselves in the position where

57:49

the idea that we're not doing anything.

57:52

I've put more. We put more police

57:54

on the street than any administration has.

57:56

He wants to cut the cops. We're

57:58

providing for equity. and making

58:00

sure people have a shot to make

58:02

it. There's a lot going on, but

58:05

in inflation, he caused it

58:07

by his tremendous malfeasance in

58:09

the way he handled the

58:11

pandemic. Thank you. Another persistent

58:13

challenge is the climate crisis.

58:17

2023 was the hottest year in

58:19

recorded history and communities across the

58:21

country are confronting the devastating effects

58:23

of extreme heat, intensifying

58:25

wildfires, stronger hurricanes, and rising

58:28

sea levels. Former

58:30

President Trump, you've vowed to end your

58:32

opponent's climate initiatives, but will you take

58:34

any action as president to slow the

58:37

climate crisis? Well, let me just go

58:39

back to what he said about the

58:41

police. How close the

58:44

police are to him. Almost every police

58:46

group in the nation, from every state,

58:49

is supporting Donald J. Trump.

58:51

Almost every police group. And

58:53

what he's done to the black population is

58:55

horrible, including the fact that for 10 years,

58:57

he called them super predators. We can't, in

59:00

the 1990s, we can't forget that.

59:02

Super predators was his name, and he called it

59:04

to him and they've taken great offense at it,

59:06

and now they see it happening. But

59:08

when they see what I did

59:10

for criminal justice reform and for

59:13

the historically black colleges and universities

59:15

where I funded them and got

59:17

them all funded, and the opportunity

59:19

zones with Tim, as you

59:21

know, Tim Scott was incredible. He did a

59:23

great job, great senator from South Carolina. He

59:25

came to me with the idea, and it

59:28

was a great idea. It's one of the

59:30

most successful economic development acts ever in the

59:32

country. Opportunity zones and the

59:34

biggest beneficiary are blacks. And that's why

59:36

we have the best numbers

59:38

with them in maybe ever,

59:41

they're saying ever, I read this morning,

59:43

wherever, the best numbers. He's

59:45

lost much of the black

59:47

population because he's done a horrible

59:49

job for black people. He's also done a

59:52

horrible job for Hispanics. But wait

59:54

till you see these millions of people pouring

59:56

into our country, and they're gonna take the

59:58

jobs, and it's already started. and you haven't

1:00:00

seen anything yet. It's a disaster. 38

1:00:04

seconds left, President Trump. Will you

1:00:06

take any action as president to

1:00:09

slow the climate crisis? So I

1:00:11

want absolutely immaculate, clean water, and

1:00:14

I want absolutely clean air, and

1:00:16

we had it. We had H2O.

1:00:18

We had the best numbers ever,

1:00:21

and we were using all

1:00:24

forms of energy, all forms, everything.

1:00:26

And yet, during my four

1:00:28

years, I had the best environmental

1:00:31

numbers ever, and my

1:00:33

top environmental people gave me that statistic just

1:00:35

before I walked on the stage, actually. I

1:00:39

don't know where the hell he's been. The

1:00:41

idea today that he said is

1:00:43

true. I've passed

1:00:45

the most extensive climate

1:00:47

change legislation in history.

1:00:51

We find ourselves, and by the way,

1:00:53

black colleges, I came up

1:00:56

with $15 billion for HBCUs, historic

1:00:58

black universities and colleges, because they

1:01:00

don't have the kind

1:01:02

of contributors that they have to

1:01:05

build these laboratories and the like. Any

1:01:07

black student is capable of college to do what

1:01:09

any white student can do. They just have the

1:01:12

money, but now they'll be able to get those

1:01:14

jobs in high tech. We're in a situation where

1:01:16

the idea that he is claiming

1:01:18

to have done something that had

1:01:21

the cleanest water, the

1:01:23

cleanest water, he had done a

1:01:25

damn thing in the environment. He, out

1:01:27

of the Paris Peace Accord, Climate Accord, I

1:01:29

immediately joined it, because if we reach 1.5

1:01:32

degrees Celsius at

1:01:34

any one point where there's no way back, the

1:01:37

only existential threat to humanity is climate change, and

1:01:39

he didn't do a damn thing about it. He

1:01:41

must undo all that I've done. The

1:01:44

Paris Accord was going to cost us a

1:01:46

trillion dollars, and China nothing,

1:01:48

and Russia nothing, and India nothing. It

1:01:51

was a ripoff of the United States,

1:01:54

and I ended it because I didn't want

1:01:56

to waste that money because they treat us

1:01:58

horribly. We were the only ones who was

1:02:00

costing us a million. us money, nobody else

1:02:02

was paying into it. And it was a

1:02:04

disaster. But everything that he said just now,

1:02:06

I'll give you an example. I heard him

1:02:08

say before insulin, I'm the one that got

1:02:10

the insulin down for the seniors. I took

1:02:12

care of the seniors. What he's doing is

1:02:15

destroying all of our medical programs because the

1:02:17

migrants coming in, they want everybody and look,

1:02:19

I have the I have the biggest heart

1:02:21

on the stage, I guarantee you that. And

1:02:23

I want to take care of people. But

1:02:25

we're destroying our country. They're taking over our

1:02:27

schools, our hospitals, and they're going to be

1:02:29

taking over Social Security. He is

1:02:31

destroying Social Security, Medicare and

1:02:34

Medicaid. The

1:02:38

idea is that we in fact,

1:02:41

we were the only ones

1:02:43

of consequence. We're not we're not

1:02:45

members of the Paris Accord. How

1:02:48

can we do anything? We've not able to the United

1:02:50

States can't get us under control.

1:02:52

One of the largest polluters in

1:02:54

the world. Number one, we're making

1:02:56

significant progress. By 2035, we will

1:02:58

have cut pollution in half. We

1:03:00

have made we have made significant

1:03:02

progress and we're continuing to make

1:03:04

progress. We set up a climate core for thousands

1:03:07

of young people who learn how to deal

1:03:09

with time just like the Peace Corps. And

1:03:11

we're going to we're moving in directions

1:03:13

that are going to significantly change the

1:03:16

elements of cause of pollution. But the

1:03:18

idea that he claims that he has

1:03:20

the biggest heart up here and he's

1:03:22

really concerned about about pollution

1:03:25

and about climate. I've not seen

1:03:27

any indication of that. And by

1:03:30

the way, with regard to prescription

1:03:32

drugs, one company agreed

1:03:34

that they would reduce the price to thirty

1:03:37

five dollars, which I was calling for one

1:03:39

voluntarily. I made sure every

1:03:41

company in the world, every pharmaceutical company

1:03:43

cannot have to pay. And by the

1:03:45

way, so

1:03:48

every day, millions of Americans struggle

1:03:50

just to make ends meet for

1:03:52

many older Americans. Social security provides

1:03:55

a critical lifeline. President Biden, if

1:03:57

nothing is done to Social Security,

1:03:59

seniors will. see their benefits cut

1:04:01

in just over 10 years. Will

1:04:04

you name tonight one specific step that

1:04:06

you're willing to take to keep Social

1:04:08

Security solvent? Yes, make the very wealth

1:04:10

they began to pay their fair share. Right

1:04:12

now, everybody making under $170,000 pays 6%

1:04:15

of their income, of their paycheck, every

1:04:20

single time they get a paycheck from the time the

1:04:22

first one they get when they're 18 years old. The

1:04:24

idea that they're going to, I'm not

1:04:27

proposing that. Everybody they

1:04:29

pay, the millionaires pay 1%.

1:04:33

So no one after, I would not

1:04:35

raise the cost of Social Security for anybody

1:04:37

under $400,000. After

1:04:39

that, I began to make the wealthy, began to

1:04:42

pay their fair share by increasing from 1%

1:04:44

beyond to be able to guarantee the program

1:04:46

for life. So you still

1:04:49

have 82 seconds left. Are there any other

1:04:51

measures that you think that would be able

1:04:53

to help keep Social Security solvent or is

1:04:55

that one enough? Well, that one enough will

1:04:57

keep it solvent. But the biggest thing I'll

1:04:59

do if we defeat this man, because

1:05:01

he wants to get rid of Social Security.

1:05:04

He thinks there's plenty to cut in Social

1:05:06

Security. He's wanted to cut Social Security and

1:05:08

Medicare both times. And if

1:05:10

you look at the program put forward

1:05:12

by the House Republican Caucus that

1:05:14

he, I believe, supports, is

1:05:16

in fact, want to cut it as well. The

1:05:19

idea that we don't need to

1:05:21

protect our seniors is ridiculous. We

1:05:24

put, and by the way, American

1:05:26

public has greater health care coverage

1:05:28

today than ever before. And

1:05:30

on the ACA, as I said, you're in

1:05:32

a circumstance where 400,000 people, I mean, 40

1:05:34

million people

1:05:38

would not have insurance because they have

1:05:40

a pre-existing condition. Only allows them to

1:05:42

have that insurance is the fact that

1:05:44

they in fact are part of the

1:05:47

ACA. And by the way, the other thing is we're

1:05:49

in a situation where I talk about education for black

1:05:52

communities. I've raised the number,

1:05:55

the amount of money for Pell Grants, another

1:05:57

$8,000. Should anybody make it under?

1:06:00

$70,000 a year, going to be able to get $15,000 towards the tuition. He

1:06:06

just doesn't know what he's talking about. Thank you, President

1:06:08

Biden, President Trump. So I've dealt with

1:06:10

politicians all my life.

1:06:12

I've been on this side of the

1:06:14

equation for the last eight years. I've

1:06:18

never seen anybody lie like this guy. He

1:06:20

lies. I've never seen that he could look you in the face.

1:06:23

About so many other things, too. And

1:06:26

we mentioned the laptop. We mentioned Russia, Russia,

1:06:28

Russia, Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine. Everything

1:06:30

he does is a lie.

1:06:33

It's misinformation and disinformation. The

1:06:36

losers and suckers story that he made up is

1:06:38

a total lie on the military. It's

1:06:40

a disgrace. But Social Security,

1:06:43

he's destroying it because millions of people

1:06:45

are pouring into our country. And they're

1:06:47

putting them onto Social Security. They're putting

1:06:49

them onto Medicare, Medicaid. They're putting them

1:06:51

in our hospitals. They're taking the place

1:06:54

of our citizens there. What they're doing

1:06:56

to the VA, to our veterans, is

1:06:58

unbelievable. Our veterans are living in the

1:07:00

street. And these people are living in

1:07:02

luxury hotels. He doesn't know what

1:07:04

he's doing. And it's really

1:07:06

coming back. I've never seen such anger

1:07:08

in our country before. President

1:07:11

Biden? The idea that veterans are

1:07:13

not being taken care of, I told you

1:07:15

before. By the way, when I said suckers

1:07:17

and losers, he said he acknowledged after that

1:07:19

he fired that general. That general

1:07:22

got fired because he's the one that acknowledged

1:07:24

that that's what he said. He was the one

1:07:26

standing with Trump when he said it. Number

1:07:29

one. Number two, the idea that we're going to

1:07:31

be in a situation where all

1:07:33

these millions and millions, in a way, talks

1:07:36

about illegal aliens are coming

1:07:38

into the country and taking away our

1:07:40

jobs. There's a reason why we have the

1:07:42

fastest growing economy in the world. The reason why

1:07:44

we have the most successful economy in the world.

1:07:47

We're doing better than any other nation in the world.

1:07:50

And by the way, those 15 Nobel

1:07:52

laureates he talked about being phony, those

1:07:54

15 Nobel laureates, economists, they all said

1:07:56

that if Trump is reelected, we're elected

1:07:58

to have a... and inflation is

1:08:01

going to increasingly go up. And

1:08:03

by the way, worst president in history, 159

1:08:06

presidential scholars voted him the worst

1:08:08

president in the history of the United States of

1:08:10

America. President Biden, thank you so much. Let's

1:08:12

turn to the cost of childcare, which many American

1:08:15

families struggle to afford. President Trump,

1:08:17

both you and President Biden, have tried to

1:08:19

address this issue. But the average cost of

1:08:21

childcare in this country has risen to more than

1:08:23

$11,000 a year per child. For

1:08:26

many families, the cost of childcare for two

1:08:28

children is more than their rent.

1:08:30

In your second term, what would you do to

1:08:33

make childcare more affordable? Just

1:08:37

to go back, the general got fired because he was no

1:08:39

good. And if he said that, that's why he

1:08:41

made it up. But we have 19 people that said I didn't say it, and

1:08:44

they're very highly respected, much more so than him. The

1:08:47

other thing is, he doesn't

1:08:50

fire people. He never fired people. I've

1:08:53

never seen him fire anybody, but I did fire a

1:08:55

lot. I fired Comey because he was no good. I

1:08:57

fired a lot of the top people at the FBI.

1:08:59

I drained the swamp. They were no good. Not

1:09:01

easy to fire people. You'd pay a price for it.

1:09:04

But they were no good. I inherited these people. I

1:09:06

didn't put him there. I didn't put Comey there. He

1:09:08

was no good. I fired him. This guy hasn't fired

1:09:10

anybody. He never fires. He

1:09:12

should have fired every military man

1:09:15

that was involved with that Afghan, the

1:09:18

Afghanistan horror show, the

1:09:20

most embarrassing moment in the history of our

1:09:22

country. He didn't fire. Did you

1:09:24

fire anybody? Did you fire anybody that's

1:09:26

on the border, that's allowed us to have the worst

1:09:28

border in the history of the world? Did anybody get

1:09:31

fired for allowing 18 million people, many

1:09:33

from prisons, many from

1:09:36

mental institutions? Did

1:09:38

you fire anybody that allowed our country to

1:09:40

be destroyed? Joe, our country is

1:09:42

being destroyed as you and I

1:09:44

sit up here and waste a lot of time on this

1:09:46

debate. This shouldn't be a debate. He is the worst president.

1:09:50

He just said it about me because I said it. But

1:09:52

look, he's the worst president in the history of our country.

1:09:55

He's destroyed our country. Now all of a sudden he's

1:09:57

trying to get a little tough on the border. came

1:10:00

out with a nothing deal and it

1:10:02

reduced it a little bit, a little

1:10:05

bit, like this much. It's insignificant. He

1:10:07

wants open borders. He wants our country

1:10:09

to either be destroyed or he wants

1:10:12

to pick up those people as voters.

1:10:15

And I don't think we just can't let

1:10:17

it happen. If he wins this

1:10:20

election, our country doesn't have a chance,

1:10:22

not even a chance, of

1:10:24

coming out of this rut. We probably won't

1:10:26

have a country left anymore. That's how bad

1:10:28

it is. He is the worst in history

1:10:30

by far. Thank you, President

1:10:32

Trump. President Biden? We are the most admired

1:10:35

country in the world. We're the United States

1:10:37

of America. There's nothing beyond our capacity. We

1:10:39

have the finest military in the history of

1:10:41

the world, the finest in the history of

1:10:43

the world. No one thinks

1:10:45

we're weak. No one wants to screw

1:10:47

around with us. Nobody. Number one. Number

1:10:50

two, the idea that we're talking about

1:10:52

worst presidents. I wasn't joking. Look it

1:10:54

up. Go online. 159 or 158 don't

1:10:56

hold me the exact number. Presidential

1:11:01

historians, they've had meetings and they

1:11:03

voted who was the worst president in

1:11:05

American history, one best to worst. They

1:11:08

said he was the worst in all

1:11:10

of American history. That's a fact.

1:11:12

That's not conjecture. He can argue they're

1:11:14

wrong, but that's what they voted. The

1:11:17

idea that he is knowing, doing anything

1:11:19

to deal with childcare, he

1:11:22

did virtually nothing to childcare. We

1:11:24

should significantly increase the childcare tax

1:11:26

credit. We should significantly increase the

1:11:28

availability of women and men or

1:11:31

single parents to be able to go back

1:11:33

to work and we should encourage businesses to

1:11:35

hold, to have. Thank you, President Biden. President

1:11:37

Trump, the question was about what would you

1:11:39

do to make childcare more affordable if you

1:11:41

want to take your minute. Just you understand.

1:11:45

We have polling. We have other things that

1:11:47

do, they rate him the worst because what

1:11:49

he's done is so bad and

1:11:51

they rate me. I'll show you. I will show you.

1:11:53

And they rate me one of the best. Okay. And

1:11:55

if I'm given another four years, I will be

1:11:57

the best. I think I'll be the best. Nobody's

1:12:00

ever created economy like

1:12:03

us. Nobody ever cut taxes like us.

1:12:05

He's the only one I know. He wants

1:12:08

to raise your taxes by four times. He

1:12:10

wants to raise everybody's taxes by four times.

1:12:12

He wants the Trump tax cuts to expire.

1:12:14

So everybody, including the two of you, are

1:12:17

gonna pay four to five times. Nobody ever

1:12:19

heard of this before. All my life I'd

1:12:21

grow up and I see politicians talking about

1:12:23

cutting taxes. When we cut taxes, as I

1:12:26

said, we did more business. Apple and all

1:12:28

these companies, they were bringing money

1:12:30

back into our country. The

1:12:32

worst president in history by far and

1:12:34

everybody knows it. President Biden?

1:12:37

Look, the fact of the matter

1:12:39

is that he's dead wrong about,

1:12:41

he's increased the tariff. He will

1:12:43

increase the taxes on middle class

1:12:45

people. I said I'd never raise a

1:12:47

tax on anybody I'm making on less than $400,000. I

1:12:51

didn't. But his tariff is 10% tariffs. Everything

1:12:53

coming into the country, you know what the economists

1:12:55

say? That's gonna cost the average American $2,500 a

1:12:58

year more because

1:13:01

they're gonna have to pay the difference in

1:13:03

food and all the things that are

1:13:05

very important. Number two, he's in

1:13:08

a situation where he talks about

1:13:10

how he has not raised, he's

1:13:14

somehow helped the middle class. Middle

1:13:16

class has been devastated by you. Now

1:13:18

you want a new tax cut of

1:13:20

$5 trillion over the next 10 years,

1:13:22

which is gonna fundamentally bankrupt the country.

1:13:25

You had the largest deficit of any

1:13:27

president of American history, number one. Number

1:13:29

two, you have not in fact made

1:13:32

any contact, any progress

1:13:34

with China. We

1:13:36

are the lowest trade deficit with China since 2010.

1:13:40

Thank you, President Biden. You lost on this.

1:13:42

Thank you, President Biden. Let's discuss an epidemic

1:13:44

impacting millions of Americans that both of you

1:13:46

have made a top priority in your first

1:13:48

term, the opioid crisis. And for

1:13:50

both of you, the number

1:13:52

of overdose deaths in this country has

1:13:54

gone up. Under your term, it went

1:13:56

up. Under your term, it has gone

1:13:59

up. former president Trump, despite the

1:14:01

efforts that both of you have made, more than

1:14:03

100,000 Americans are dying

1:14:05

from overdoses every year, primarily from fentanyl

1:14:07

and other opioids. What will you do

1:14:09

to help Americans right now in the

1:14:11

throes of addiction who are struggling to

1:14:13

get the treatment they need? To

1:14:16

finish up, we now

1:14:18

have the largest deficit in the history of our

1:14:20

country under this guy. We have

1:14:22

the largest deficit with China. He

1:14:25

gets paid by China. He's a Manchurian candidate.

1:14:27

He gets money from China. So

1:14:29

I think he's afraid to deal with something. But

1:14:32

do you notice he never took out my tariffs

1:14:34

because we bring in so much money with the

1:14:36

tariffs that I imposed on China. He never took

1:14:38

them away. He can't because it's too much money.

1:14:41

It's tremendous. We saved our steel industries and

1:14:43

there was more to come. But

1:14:45

he hasn't done that. But he hasn't cut

1:14:47

the tariffs because he can't because it's

1:14:49

too much money. But he's got

1:14:51

the largest deficit in the history of

1:14:53

our country. And he's got the

1:14:55

worst situation with China. China

1:14:58

is going to own us if you keep allowing them to

1:15:00

do what they're doing to us as a

1:15:02

country. They are killing us as a country,

1:15:04

Joe. And you can't let that happen. You're

1:15:06

destroying our country. So

1:15:09

President Trump, you have 67 seconds left. The question

1:15:11

was, what are you going to do to help

1:15:13

Americans in the throes of addiction right now who

1:15:15

are struggling to get the treatment they need? Jake,

1:15:17

we were doing very well at addiction until

1:15:20

the COVID came along. We had the two

1:15:22

and a half, almost three years of like

1:15:24

nobody's ever had before any country in every

1:15:26

way. And then we had

1:15:28

to get tough. And it was the drugs pouring

1:15:30

across the border where it

1:15:33

started to increase. We got great equipment. We

1:15:35

bought the certain dog. That's the most incredible

1:15:37

thing that you've ever seen, the way they

1:15:40

can spot it. We did a lot. And

1:15:42

we had we were getting very low numbers,

1:15:44

very, very low numbers. Then he came along.

1:15:46

The numbers. Have you seen the numbers now?

1:15:49

It's not only the 18 million people that

1:15:51

I believe is even low because they got

1:15:53

away. They don't even talk about gotaways. But

1:15:56

the numbers of the amount of

1:15:59

drugs and human