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So so

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welcome back to

1:57

another episode of Deadly Diocese. This

2:00

episode is an interesting one. It

2:02

delves into the world of speculation and

2:05

the character of the players who

2:07

may be involved.

2:08

And I'd like to stay

2:10

up top, that the opinions expressed

2:12

by our interview subjects are their own.

2:15

But it is important to explore all

2:18

facets of this case. All

2:22

parties are innocent until proven guilty,

2:25

and they also may just be innocent.

2:28

Please take care when listening.

2:37

Not in my church. Not

2:40

in my diocese. No

2:43

one wants to believe that the smoke of Satan

2:45

could be wafting through their own backyard.

2:50

But where would evil infiltrate your

2:52

neighborhood? The rundown

2:54

house at the end of the street is too obvious.

2:58

The church is where we would least expect

3:01

to encounter evil.

3:03

Or at least that's the white picket fence kind

3:06

of faith we bestow onto these cathedrals.

3:10

The Catholic Diocese of Buffalo has

3:12

existed since 1847, reigning over 6,455 square miles

3:19

of western New York. Lives

3:21

of stone cathedrals for

3:24

the smoke of Satan to hide, lurking

3:27

in the holy hallways and rectories.

3:31

Now over the course of the last 176 years,

3:35

the Buffalo Diocese produced some true

3:37

men of God. Like the Padre

3:40

to the poor, Father Nelson Baker,

3:42

who after enlisting as a Union soldier

3:45

in the Civil War at age 21, had

3:48

a spiritual calling on a steamboat

3:50

crossing Lake Erie. His

3:53

godly works would go on to help him raise

3:55

the money and build the famous Our

3:57

Lady of Victory Basilica.

3:59

in Buffalo and

4:02

earned him the distinction of Venerable

4:04

by Pope Benedict in 2011, moving him

4:08

one step closer to canonization.

4:11

A

4:13

hundred years later, Buffalo would

4:15

see another true man of God, Father

4:18

Joe Moreno, the

4:20

Padre of Pizza. He

4:24

selflessly tended to the poor, like

4:26

Father Baker. His sermons

4:28

were as good as stand-up comedy, but

4:31

the Buffalo Diocese did

4:33

not reward this beloved priest with

4:36

a larger church or promote

4:38

his official duties. For

4:41

decades, there has been a self-centered

4:44

culture, spawning from social

4:46

cliques and good old boys' clubs,

4:49

from seminary on. Joe

4:53

was an outsider to these modern priests.

4:56

His humor, holiness,

4:59

and good will wasn't in fashion

5:01

with these guys. An

5:04

envy leads to jealousy.

5:08

And that jealousy lingers

5:11

in the air of a sacristy, corroded

5:15

with the smoke of Satan, and

5:17

that jealousy can

5:20

turn into wrath. My

5:23

own

5:24

experiences along with what I had

5:26

been told by a number of clergy

5:28

members who did not want to be identified,

5:30

there

5:32

is and there

5:34

has been for a long, long time,

5:36

decades, probably longer, somewhat

5:40

of a secret society going on within

5:42

the clergy of the Roman Catholic Church. On

5:45

February 19, 2023, I

5:48

received a message on Facebook by a woman named

5:50

Mary Ellen. She writes, Hello

5:53

Rachel, are you the same Rachel who is

5:55

doing the Peace Deadly Diocese of the Buffalo

5:57

New York Diocese? If so,

5:59

I'm wondering if we could talk. I

6:02

sent her my phone number, she sent me hers,

6:05

and I called her immediately. And

6:08

it was an interesting phone call. You

6:11

see, Mary Ellen has a very

6:13

compelling connection to the story. She

6:16

was also upfront and said that she wasn't sure

6:18

if she could help exactly with Father Joe's

6:20

case, but what she could help

6:23

with is her intimate knowledge of the

6:25

players involved and the threats

6:27

they gave her, and one fairly

6:30

harrowing, potentially life-threatening

6:33

encounter with one bishop alone.

6:35

When

6:38

I belonged to St. Mary's in

6:40

Swornville, Roman Catholic

6:42

Church in Swornville, and

6:45

when the approach of abuse began

6:48

to erupt back in 2018, our pastor,

6:50

Coddler Robert Yutter,

6:55

was removed from ministry.

6:58

So that is when I started

7:01

getting involved because it was devastating

7:03

to all of the parishioners. Myself

7:07

in particular, being

7:08

that father yetter, had been my

7:10

spiritual advisor for over 20 years.

7:14

So I began talking

7:16

to other churchgoers

7:19

from St. Mary's and in and around

7:21

the diocese, and

7:24

we began forming groups to

7:26

get together to join

7:29

Siobhan, the bishop secretary,

7:32

who had ultimately been the

7:34

main whistleblower.

7:36

Siobhan became the main whistleblower because

7:39

Father Joe couldn't. His

7:42

plan was to blow the lid off the corruption

7:44

in the diocese and expose these

7:46

priests for their dirty deeds. But

7:49

unfortunately, Father Joe

7:51

didn't get that chance, because

7:54

like Jonathan said in a previous episode, he

7:56

got too emotional the day before.

7:59

and activated his own kill

8:02

order. I

8:05

think, I think Joe unfortunately

8:09

became emotional over this and he

8:11

activated the kill order.

8:14

But thankfully,

8:16

Siobhan carried the torch when

8:18

Joey could not. We

8:21

were joining her at

8:23

different locations for prayerful

8:25

protest.

8:27

We would stand outside of the chancellery

8:29

in prayer. There

8:32

were different places that

8:34

the bishop would be appearing and

8:36

we would go to those places

8:38

of his appearances. And in an attempt

8:41

to bring awareness to what

8:43

was going on and the fact that,

8:45

you know, we have a very serious problem here

8:48

in the Diocese of Buffalo. I

8:51

then asked Mary Ellen if she believed that

8:53

Bishop Malone had any involvement

8:56

in orchestrating Father

8:57

Joe's death as Malone had

8:59

only been bishop for a few months before

9:01

Father Joe died. And

9:03

then I asked her if she believes that Malone would

9:05

have a motive to cover it up and

9:08

protect the Diocese and the players involved.

9:11

So that's kind of how it all started.

9:14

From what I learned

9:17

throughout the experiences

9:20

with

9:21

other people who joined with

9:23

me, the Catholics in Western New York,

9:26

the things that we had heard

9:28

from victims, things

9:30

that we had heard from

9:32

clergy members that did

9:34

not want to be identified, there's

9:38

been a long history of nothing

9:41

but coverups. I mean, this could go back decades.

9:44

And it's almost as if there is a secret

9:47

society within the Roman

9:49

Catholic Church.

9:51

Abuse of power, abuse

9:54

of children,

9:56

abuse of other individuals,

9:58

sexual,

9:59

abuse, as I said, abuse

10:02

of power, abuse of money, and

10:06

one person covering up for another. My

10:09

own experience is along with what I had been

10:11

told by a number of clergy members who

10:14

did not want to be identified. There

10:18

is and there has been for a long,

10:20

long time, decades, probably

10:22

longer, somewhat

10:25

of a secret society going on within

10:27

the clergy of the Roman Catholic Church.

10:31

It is comprised of

10:33

power and control, money,

10:36

and you are

10:39

either quiet about the society,

10:42

you don't dare come forward and say anything

10:44

because there will be repercussions.

10:48

Along with

10:50

the control and the power, there was

10:52

also the victimization

10:55

of children and others by

10:57

clergy. The Lavender Mafia.

11:00

Now she goes on to speculate a lot

11:03

of statistics about

11:06

the sexual preferences of priests in the

11:09

Buffalo Diocese. But

11:11

let's just say there's

11:14

a reason it's called the Lavender

11:17

Mafia. I

11:19

also spoke with seminarians because

11:22

when we would do our prayerful protest, particularly

11:26

out at Christ the King Seminary prior

11:28

to its closing in 2009, I

11:30

believe it was early 2020, I

11:35

guess it closed in 2020,

11:38

we would be out there for hours

11:40

on end and that happened to be

11:43

where Bishop Malone had made the

11:45

attempt to run me over.

11:48

I have to admit, I was shocked to hear that.

11:51

But then I thought about it for a while. It's

11:54

not totally out of the realm

11:56

of possibility based on everything

11:58

that has happened so far in this country. Now,

12:01

I'm not accusing Malone of this, and this

12:04

is Mary Ellen's experience, but

12:06

one thing it did tell me was

12:09

these men are reckless,

12:12

and so zeroed in on keeping their status,

12:15

their lifestyle, and needs intact

12:18

that anyone that gets in their way

12:21

is essentially roadkill. We

12:23

would go out numerous times

12:26

to Christ the King, particularly

12:28

when we knew there would be a

12:30

gathering of

12:33

clergy as well as Catholics

12:36

for a function, for a mass, whatever,

12:39

so that we could make our presence

12:41

known, nothing violent,

12:43

nothing threatening.

12:45

We would stand there, we would pray the rosary,

12:47

we would hold up signs. We wanted

12:50

people to be

12:51

aware of what was going on and

12:54

what needed to be given attention to. So

12:57

we'd be talking to

12:59

other people who were in prayerful protest.

13:02

On a number of occasions, there were seminarians

13:04

there,

13:06

and I had heard

13:08

certain things about what was going on within

13:11

the seminary.

13:12

One seminarian, actually

13:14

two seminarians, told me that

13:17

some of what was being taught

13:20

was in the formation of

13:22

the priest. They

13:24

told the seminarians that we recognize

13:27

the fact that you're

13:29

called to be pure

13:33

and celibate and such, but we do

13:35

recognize too the fact that you have

13:38

wants and needs.

13:39

So we are going to

13:42

explain to you, and we're going to do this

13:44

in the form of a pamphlet that we will

13:46

hand out to you

13:47

with regard to masturbation.

13:49

We encourage you to have masturbation

13:52

buddies within

13:55

the seminary so

13:57

that you can, you

13:59

know, better deal with what you're

14:01

going through and still be able to move forward

14:04

with what you want to do in terms of your formation

14:06

as a clergy member.

14:08

The seminarians were telling us

14:10

that they were handed out

14:12

these pamphlets

14:14

in the seminary by

14:16

their teachers. About masturbation

14:19

buddies? Yes, because they recognize

14:21

the fact that these young men hit

14:24

wants and needs, but also that

14:26

you're being called to chastity.

14:31

This is how we are explaining

14:34

to you that you can deal with this issue

14:37

so that you can move forward with your formation

14:40

as a priest. We're

14:46

supposed to get one, the seminarians

14:49

who

14:50

was talking to me about it had them

14:52

never gave

14:54

one to me. But we discussed it at

14:57

length. What

14:59

he was saying was collaborating

15:01

with another seminarian at the time

15:04

who agreed. Yes, they were

15:06

handing out these pamphlets and

15:09

the encouragement of having

15:12

a masturbation buddy within

15:14

the seminary, someone that you

15:16

could masturbate with. When

15:20

we learned this,

15:22

we became equally disturbed.

15:25

That empowered

15:28

us to be more persistent

15:30

with what we were doing in terms of if

15:33

we can't have Bishop

15:35

Malone recognize what's going on

15:38

in the diocese among his priests,

15:40

what's happened to so many victims,

15:44

what is going on in the seminary where you

15:46

have the formation of up

15:48

and coming priests. Then this

15:50

man, this Bishop who is

15:52

not of God needs to be removed

15:55

and someone needs to come into place

15:57

to do an investigation into all of this.

16:00

all the evil that's going on

16:02

within the church in our diocese. Also

16:05

at the seminary where we have these

16:07

young men who were in their early

16:09

20s being formed

16:12

to become priests in the Roman

16:14

Catholic Church. At

16:18

Christ the King seminary we

16:20

were told by these seminarians they

16:22

also had in the student center

16:25

a

16:26

bar

16:28

with alcoholic beverages.

16:30

Now

16:31

the seminary did not have a liquor license to

16:35

have alcohol, sell

16:37

alcohol,

16:39

however the beverages were available

16:42

it was almost like a snack bar

16:44

they would have you know like you could get

16:46

chips and you know different snacks

16:48

and things along with soda

16:51

but you could get alcoholic beverages

16:53

as well because again you know you're

16:55

under a lot of stress you're studying so on

16:57

so forth and you need

17:00

a little rest and relaxation so

17:02

they had this

17:04

this bar

17:06

with alcohol and

17:08

it was available to seminarians

17:12

who chose to drink.

17:15

Even how I grew up and

17:18

I'm a lot older than you I grew up

17:20

in the 60s and 70s and

17:22

I did not live in a wealthy neighborhood

17:25

however the

17:27

rectory of the church that I belong

17:30

to and I know a lot about what went on

17:32

because my mother worked in

17:35

the rectory as a cleaning lady and

17:37

it was a very for

17:39

that time period

17:42

and with the neighborhood being the way

17:44

it was it was one of the it was

17:46

in the city of Buffalo and one of the you know

17:48

less

17:49

affluent neighborhoods it wasn't

17:51

as fluent at all and not even middle class

17:53

lower middle class at Tip Topur

17:57

the rectory was very elaborate

17:58

there were a A lot of dinner

18:00

parties were held and a lot of drinking going

18:02

on.

18:07

I can remember our

18:10

pastor. What? What's the

18:12

story?

18:12

We used to have

18:15

a pastor that would have to be removed from

18:17

the altar. He

18:24

was so drunk. I remember this

18:26

as a child. They

18:28

would take him off of the altar. I can't tell you

18:31

the number.

18:33

I'm not a drinker. I would be

18:35

shopping periodically for the holidays

18:37

or whatever. I can't tell you how many priests I

18:39

would run into in the liquor store buying

18:42

a cart full of alcohol

18:44

for their parishes. I mean, Father

18:46

Yetter, who was my pastor

18:48

at St. Mary's, who was removed from ministry,

18:51

he gambled and drank. I

18:54

would see him out all the time when I would be out with my

18:56

family. My family and I, we'd

18:58

go out to dinner frequently. I can't tell you

19:00

the number of times I would run into Father Yetter

19:03

at very nice restaurants and

19:05

he would always be with a young man. Then

19:08

to find out, he would send drinks over

19:10

to him. Then to find out, he used

19:12

to bring these young men back to

19:15

our rectory and have sex with them.

19:19

This was found to be a fact. This

19:22

was part of what everything was

19:24

being covered up by Bishop Malone. Father

19:27

Yetter had even written a letter to Bishop

19:30

Malone,

19:31

kind of

19:32

cautioning him as to what he

19:35

would do to Father Yetter because please

19:37

remember how much money we

19:39

raised for you from St. Mary's.

19:41

We are right up

19:44

there under the highest ranking

19:47

church in terms of

19:49

raising money.

19:51

And priests, and

19:54

who can probably tell you more about

19:56

this, priests do get

19:59

a wage.

20:01

Also, each parish

20:04

through

20:04

their collections,

20:06

they have to have X amount of money

20:08

in which to run that parish. However,

20:10

the diocese kind of gets a

20:13

bit of a stipend from whatever they

20:15

bring in collection-wise. You know, out

20:18

in East Amherst here, St. Mary's is

20:20

a very, it's a wealthy parish. And

20:23

we just built a brand

20:25

new church, oh, maybe about 10 years ago,

20:28

that was Father Yeather's project. So

20:30

you're having fundraisers,

20:33

your collection. Then there

20:35

was also another

20:36

thing that went on and Sue might remember,

20:38

but it's called Upon This Rock. It

20:42

was at East Maser

20:45

in the diocese. And

20:48

it was where you pledged money. And

20:52

what they were doing is I was told by

20:54

a clergy member, again, that

20:56

deacons and clergy

20:59

in East Paris, they were told

21:02

to go after the

21:05

people of the parish who they knew to have

21:07

a lot of money, in particular, to

21:09

get them to make major

21:12

contributions to the fundraiser,

21:15

or to pledge money, like, for

21:18

life. That they would get X

21:20

number of dollars every year for the

21:22

rest of their life to this fundraiser

21:25

that was called Upon This Rock.

21:43

But I found out when I was on

21:46

board the crusade with Siobhan

21:49

O'Connor and the group that

21:51

was working with her

21:54

to try to help bring about change

21:56

and awareness in the diocese

21:59

of Buffalo. was devastating.

22:02

But then the more I thought about it, the

22:04

more research I did, this has

22:06

been going on long before

22:08

any of us were born. It's been going on for

22:12

years.

22:15

There was a function that

22:17

was being held at Christ the

22:19

King Seminary, which being

22:22

the main seminary for the

22:24

Diocese of Buffalo for the formation of

22:26

future priests. A

22:29

lot of things occurred

22:30

out there. There would

22:32

be special masses held, there would be

22:34

events, so on and so forth. In

22:37

this particular day in October,

22:39

Bishop Malone was coming out to

22:42

this

22:42

seminary for one

22:44

of these events. We

22:46

were aware of that because we

22:49

were notified of the

22:51

bishop's calendar as

22:53

to where he would be present appearing,

22:56

so on and so forth. Someone

22:58

within the chancery was

23:01

giving us this information so that we

23:03

could be at all of the events that Bishop

23:06

Malone was at.

23:08

This particular day, two

23:12

seminarians prior to Bishop Malone arriving

23:14

at Christ the King, two seminarians

23:17

went to the residence of the

23:19

bishop. They didn't go to the door, but they

23:21

stood outside the residence of Bishop

23:24

Malone. They were also

23:26

in prayerful protest because

23:28

of what had been

23:30

going on with them in the seminary,

23:33

as well as the overall

23:35

cover-up of the clergy

23:37

abuse. Things were

23:39

coming exacerbated.

23:42

Bishop Malone was

23:45

not happy at the presence of the

23:47

seminarians outside of his home.

23:49

The

23:50

police were called. No one was

23:53

arrested, but the police

23:55

did have a verbal interaction with

23:58

the two gentlemen that had been on the phone.

23:59

outside the bishop's home. And

24:02

it was getting to the point because we were,

24:05

we happened to be wherever Bishop Malone would

24:07

be. He was getting very

24:09

infuriated by our presence.

24:12

It was causing complications

24:14

for him. It was making him very

24:17

uneasy. We had always

24:19

hoped that we could

24:21

all sit down

24:22

and discuss everything that was going on and

24:24

maybe work together to resolve the issues

24:26

that were happening within our diocese out of love

24:29

for our church. But Bishop Malone was

24:31

not approachable at all.

24:33

And at one point in time, he even had

24:36

an individual who was like his PR

24:38

spokesperson, and kind of we referred

24:40

to her as somewhat of a bodyguard. Any

24:43

attempt in public that would be made to try

24:45

to talk to Bishop Malone, this woman

24:48

would whisk him away and take himself where

24:50

no one could speak to him.

24:52

["Pomp and

24:54

Circumstance"]

25:04

Plus the diocese owns properties

25:06

all over the place. They have the cemeteries.

25:09

They, I mean, there are so many

25:12

things that we don't know the diocese

25:14

owns that they do own. And now

25:17

I'm sure they have taken so much

25:19

of their assets, so many of their assets

25:21

and they've hidden them, so as not to have

25:24

to pay anything out to victims.

25:27

And they've also filed bankruptcy, but I'm

25:29

sure they hid a lot of what they have.

25:33

And one might think that the Catholic Diocese

25:35

of Buffalo is too small of a fish

25:38

for the Vatican to fry.

25:40

Too low profile to make

25:42

a blip

25:43

on the radar in Rome.

25:45

Well, we can tell you that Father Joe's

25:47

story has made it to Rome. Sue

25:50

Moreno has received encrypted emails

25:52

in Italian calling for Father

25:55

Joe to be declared a holy martyr.

25:58

And the Moranos have even. been contacted by

26:01

a very prominent archbishop

26:04

who must remain anonymous that

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believes Father Joe's death

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was not what they say it was.

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And ever since, Sivan O'Connor broke

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the silence and went from bishop's

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assistant to whistleblower in 2018.

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Back to the latest on

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the sex abuse scandal in the Buffalo Catholic

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Church. Weeks after our explosive

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investigation involving hundreds of internal

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documents, the church is stepping up security

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at its headquarters

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and is going to lengths to figure out

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how our I-Team obtained those documents.

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An update on a story we called Inside

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the Secret Archive reported on

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leaked records of the Catholic Diocese of

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Buffalo, New York. The whistleblower

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was Bishop Malone's own executive assistant,

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Sivan O'Connor. It's

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a scene of fear and paranoia

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inside the Diocese of Buffalo.

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Monday's front page story in the Buffalo News

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centers on Bishop Malone's reaction to a two-part

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seven eyewitness news investigation into

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Malone's handling of priests who were accused of sexual

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abuse and harassment. Our story was based

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largely on church documents or what the news

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calls secret clergy files. The paper

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reports the disclosure of those documents caused

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the church to post security guards at

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the doors to its headquarters, change

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locks, set up a video

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camera, and bring in a computer expert

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to install encryption software on

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email accounts.

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Sivan, the whistleblower who cracked this

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all open, and we should point out that she actually

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worked in the office with the Bishop

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himself. The

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anonymous tips have been rolling in. In fact, right

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when we started this podcast adventure and

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first met Sue, she had

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recently got a 34-page, handwritten

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anonymous letter in the mail. You

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can't make this stuff up. Anyhow,

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I'm not going to read all 34 pages. There

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are so many names, court records,

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and suspects from some truly hardcore

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investigative work that we still haven't

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processed everything from this packet

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put in the mail with no return address.

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The sender accuses a neary county

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judge of giving lenient sentences

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to sex offenders who are tied in to

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all of this corruption and

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connects crimes from all over the city.

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So I've picked out some excerpts that

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are very pertinent to our investigation

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on Father Joe. So

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I'm staring at a copy of this handwritten letter

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and it is written in a cursive that

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only a woman could write. So

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it's our suspicion

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that this anonymous sender is at least

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female and she apparently worked

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at St. Gregory the Great Church and

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School. Though it's somewhat reasonable

28:53

to believe she's a reliable inside

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source. Anyhow

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here's the letter.

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Sue, first please accept

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my dearest sympathy on

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the loss of your twin brother, Father

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Joe Moreno. Although

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I personally had never met him,

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I certainly knew of him

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and I also knew of his profound

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goodness. I also

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knew he trusted some people that

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he shouldn't have. As the enclosed

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pages will reflect, Father

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Joe Moreno had connections to law enforcement

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individuals as well as firefighters

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and even in that community there were

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plenty of people that he should not have trusted.

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I know Sue of your efforts to have

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your brother's death declared a murder

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rather than a suicide.

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And although you have hardcore evidence

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that points in that direction,

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I have circumstantial evidence

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that points in that same direction. My

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enclosed material

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Signed,

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Anonymous.

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There's

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so much to unpack in all of this, but

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another section I think we should air

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is on Joe Gatto.

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The letter says, Yes, Bishop

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Malone should resign, but

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he is the tip of the iceberg. I

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am not surprised that many priests did not

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sign the petition to remove him, however.

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Look what happened to Father Joe Moreno.

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His death was not a suicide.

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So much evidence points to

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murder of him instead. Having

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worked myself inside many of the Catholic

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institutions, including but not limited

32:48

to St. Gregory the Great Church and

32:50

School, I came to know and see

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indiscretions with several priests. Father

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Joe Gatto showed

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another side to him on several occasions. Father

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Joe Gatto was the pastor at the time

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I was working at St. Gregory the Great. For

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one thing, he couldn't hide his

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intense dislike for

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Father Joe Moreno.

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So I would like to see Father Joe

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Gatto's removal from the priesthood

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as well as from the Catholic Church completely. Then

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he should be investigated into possible

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involvement into the murder of Father Joe

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Moreno. Also

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at St. Gregory the Great Church, School,

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during my time there was Reverend Darryl

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Duffy, a priest

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that was also guilty of

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cover-up and or

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involvement in inappropriate

33:48

activity. The

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letter goes on to describe more

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accusations of abuse, embezzlement,

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and blasphemy amongst multiple

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priests.

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priests and Erie County

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officials, providing court

34:04

records and firsthand accounts. And

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we are at a place now in this investigation

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podcast where we've caught up

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to real time and we are actively waiting

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on leads, follow ups and

34:17

other undercover operations to finish.

34:21

So we're going to take a short break in

34:23

order to gather all of the intel and

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prepare the final episodes.

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Thank you for listening. God bless

34:33

and we'll be back soon.

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