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This. Is Amy Poehler my new movie?
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Disney and Pixar as Inside Out To
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is coming to theaters June fourteen and
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it's making me feel joy and sadness
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and anger everly. Some discuss Rose I
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think a little fear. But
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weird. It's going to be the feel everything
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movie of the summer Disney and Pixar as
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inside Out to A D P G.
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Parental guidance he just and only in theaters
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June fourteenth Get tickets Now. In
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the summer of Nineteen Eighty Eight, something was
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going on with the weather. Around the
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world. Scientists see a disturbing
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pattern. Could two days
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developments create tomorrow's disasters?
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Forty percent of the U was
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facing a severe drought, a wildfire
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and Yellowstone National Park burned eat
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hundred thousand acres. The second biggest
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hurricane and a history of the
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Atlantic had the Gulf of Mexico.
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Acid rain was searing far as
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a whole was growing in the
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ozone layer. And then there was
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the temperature. Nineteen Eighty Eight will
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probably be the hottest year of all.
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On. Top of all of this, regular
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Americans were learning many for the first
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time that we might be responsible for
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all of it. The world is
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in danger. Scientists on are warning that
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the danger is from man himself. Back
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then, this phenomenon was not call
1:28
the climate change. It was referred
1:31
to as the greenhouse effect or
1:33
global warming. And though there are
1:35
many who took it seriously, there
1:37
were others including the Federal government
1:39
who did not. Environmental issues? Are
1:41
they as serious and as frightening
1:43
as the activists in these areas
1:45
would like us to believe? I
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think. Not to the past twenty five
1:50
years, it's warmed up by about four
1:52
cans of degree centigrade. when a letter sound
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like very much heat. I have not seen
1:56
any evidence of a crisis, do you?
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middle school. But.
2:02
There were some people who
2:04
felt compelled to act immediately,
2:07
and so shortly. After that
2:09
blistering summer, a. Plan was
2:11
put into action. It was a
2:14
plan to alter the Earth future.
2:16
A plan to shape the mind
2:18
of an entire generation. To
2:21
help them solve global warming.
2:23
And other environmental
2:25
catastrophes. And
2:29
that class was a Saturday
2:31
morning cartoons. This
2:44
is the code ring. And will
2:46
attack them. And Ninety Nine.
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Dc Animated Environmental. Superhero Captain.
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Planet swooped and a Tv screens
2:53
all. Over the world. He was
2:56
aimed at three to twelve year olds and
2:58
he had the last the goal of turning
3:00
heads into environmental. Warriors In this episode
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will get a look at Southampton
3:04
Planet came to be what he
3:07
aspired to do and how much
3:09
he really got done. Captains on
3:11
it's mission was A or was.
3:13
It also naive how much of
3:15
an impact and even the most
3:17
well meaning fictional. Superhero have
3:20
and very real environmental
3:22
disasters. And can
3:24
we entertain ourselves and our
3:26
children into solving our. Hardest
3:29
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Before Captain Planet was on TV, he was
4:36
a twinkle in the eye of a
4:38
major TV mogul. Hi, I'm Ted Turner
4:40
and this is Cable News Network. Ted
4:44
Turner founded the Cable News Network or CNN
4:46
in 1980. He
4:48
was also the founder of
4:50
Turner Broadcasting System or TVS
4:52
and Turner Network Television or
4:54
TNT. He owned Atlantis
4:56
baseball and basketball teams and his motto was
4:59
early to bed, early to rise, work like
5:01
hell and advertise. Well my father and my
5:03
schools told me that you know you're living
5:05
America you might as well make as much
5:08
out of your life as you possibly can.
5:10
Do as much as you can. I mean
5:12
that's all I've tried to do. But
5:15
unlike some of his fellow business
5:17
bigwigs, Turner saw his operation as
5:19
having a higher purpose beyond just
5:21
making money. I think there
5:24
are many things that impact the destruction
5:26
of the environment and I know that
5:28
it's controversial. The media just needs to
5:30
keep this on the agenda. I
5:33
know with CNN, our news media, we
5:35
run environmental stories virtually every day.
5:38
This was unusual for a media outlet
5:41
in the 1980s as
5:43
was Turner's decision to dedicate
5:45
an entire unit of his
5:47
broadcasting operation to environmentalism. All
5:50
the scraps from this process used to end up in
5:52
a landfill. Now all of it's recycled.
5:55
That's the voice of Barbara Pyle narrating one of the
5:57
many environmental documentaries that aired on one of the world's
5:59
largest TV series. of Turner's networks. Pyle,
6:02
a photojournalist by training and
6:04
ardent environmentalist herself, was personally
6:06
selected by Turner to be
6:08
the vice president of environmental
6:10
policy at TBS. Barbara
6:12
had a bit of a maverick reputation, and
6:15
she was also very closely connected with
6:17
Ted. Nick Boxer was
6:20
thrilled to start working for Barbara at Turner
6:22
in 1984. I mean,
6:24
I grew up in a progressive environmental
6:26
thinking family. We recycled. My parents made
6:29
me aware of environmental things, and it's
6:31
always been a passion of mine. Barbara
6:34
specifically asked Nick to join her
6:36
at what they started referring to
6:38
as the Turner Environmental Division. I
6:41
came up with the name. If you look at
6:43
the acronym, it's Ted. That
6:46
was my inside joke. Ted
6:49
was a pet project of Ted
6:51
Turner's, but corporate green initiatives
6:53
were not yet common. An
6:56
executive at Turner's own companies
6:58
wondered why the CEO insisted
7:00
on funding nature documentaries,
7:02
something a vice president once said to
7:05
Nick's face. As I'm walking across
7:07
the room, he says to me, Nick, you
7:09
are everything that is wrong with Turner. And
7:12
I was very taken aback and kind of stunned.
7:15
And he said, don't get me wrong. You do
7:17
good work, but it is no
7:19
business being on Turner Broadcasting. To
7:23
the executive's point, Barbara and Nick's
7:25
department didn't bring in a lot
7:27
of money. Their documentaries about subjects
7:29
like overpopulation and wildlife preservation
7:31
and global warming didn't
7:34
get high ratings. But Ted
7:36
Turner remained committed to trying to make a
7:38
difference through television, and
7:40
eventually not just through eco films.
7:43
I'd always had an interest in cartoons. When
7:46
we ran them in the early days
7:48
of TBS, they got good ratings. This
7:50
is Ted Turner reading from his autobiography.
7:53
Kids were attracted to cartoons. And I
7:55
got the idea that We should make
7:57
one that would teach them about the environment.
8:00
I. Thought it would make a lot of
8:02
sense threshold and early. And. Help them
8:05
understand their role in taking care of
8:07
our planet. Ted. Said at one
8:09
point in today's children are the ones who are going
8:11
to inherit the problems. They're the ones you're going after.
8:13
Save the Planet. So. One day and
8:15
nineteen eighty nine at the Cnn building
8:18
in Atlanta. Ted pulled knicks boss Barbara
8:20
Pile aside and told her he had
8:22
a new assignment for the environmental decision.
8:24
Barber turned her team with the details.
8:27
Ted. Wants to do and environmental so
8:29
for children. And. He wants to
8:32
call Captain Planet. Those The
8:34
entire pets. We said to
8:36
Barbara, Well so what is Captain Planet.
8:39
It. Was like nobody knew. He. Was an
8:41
environmental superhero, but that was pretty much
8:43
it. There. Had never
8:45
been a kid sell about the environment
8:48
before. Barbara neck did not make. Children's
8:50
television to this point but they
8:52
could see the past Facilities it
8:54
was exciting was a chance to
8:56
reach whole different audience was a
8:59
chance to approach these issues and
9:01
a different way and you know
9:03
is an opportunity to empower children.
9:06
So they dell then Barbara and
9:08
Neck would be the show's creators.
9:10
And their first assignment was taking
9:13
Ted Turner's to Word Breeze and
9:15
turning it into a fully. Formed
9:17
south with a premise and character.
9:20
We started coming from ideas and
9:22
I just started sitting on my
9:24
own and writing stories since the
9:26
whole point was to so that
9:29
kids can make a difference. They
9:31
created a set aside teenaged. Characters
9:33
called the Planet Tears A multi
9:36
cultural group of young heroes recruited
9:38
by a figure named him to
9:40
sleep for the Planet. Ruined
9:50
Yes, that's about the size of
9:53
it. When Nick started thinking
9:55
about how the planet Years would interact
9:57
with the title character, To. Realize
9:59
there was. The problem. In. The traditional
10:01
Superman story with Lois Lane and Jimmy
10:04
Olsen. They. Would go out and get
10:06
in trouble and the superman become said. And.
10:08
I said we can't do that with the
10:10
planets years because the whole idea is to
10:13
empower children if they're constantly being rescued by
10:15
Captain Planet. and how are we empowering children
10:17
were not. Nick molded over
10:19
and came up with a simple solution.
10:22
Get. Rid of Captain Planet I went
10:24
to Barbara and said I think we
10:26
should make the show The planet tears.
10:29
I feel like that would really
10:31
empower kids, and maybe Captain Planet
10:33
is sir problematic in that sense.
10:36
And. She said. Ted. Created
10:38
Captain Planet. This. Is his
10:40
thing. It will not fly. So
10:43
Nick went back to. The drawing board and
10:45
he came up with a compromise. There.
10:47
Would be a Captain Planet of
10:49
the planet Years wouldn't be powerless
10:52
without him. Instead, Captain Planet salary
10:54
will be fueled by the kids.
10:57
Teamwork and their magic rings.
10:59
Each them controls an element
11:01
of nature. Or. Fire, Wind
11:03
and water. And the
11:05
fifth element. Was. Hard. Since.
11:12
While the other planet years could
11:15
create tornado as or islands from
11:17
scratch. It was hearts. That. According
11:19
to Gaia herself was the most
11:21
important. The. Planet here who wielded
11:24
it. Marty. From South America used
11:26
to bring people together, communicate
11:28
over. Long distances provide the empathy
11:30
and care real people need to.
11:33
cites. Or the environment
11:35
has. Begun.
11:40
Armed with their magic rings and
11:42
their hearts, the platitudes could fight
11:44
baddies all by themselves when the
11:46
going. Got really tough. They'd put
11:48
this this together and conjure Captain
11:51
Planet. Our
11:54
house, but. He
11:58
was the power of scene was. And that's
12:00
why would they use their rings to summon
12:02
Captain Planet? But when they do that, they
12:04
also give up the power of the rings
12:07
to they give up their own personal power
12:09
to create a collective power and it's greater
12:11
than themselves. So
12:13
they had the premise and the planet
12:15
years. We have a lot of other
12:17
details to secure out, many to do
12:19
with Tapped Into Plan as himself he
12:21
can just be a normal superhero. Punching
12:24
sad guys. That was actually a
12:26
rule. Just for the record, Captain
12:28
Planet was not allowed to functioning,
12:31
but this more peaceful crusader could
12:33
solve the trickiest problems. Fly
12:35
through the air. basically do the
12:37
impossible. And of course he
12:40
had to look the part. It
12:42
was hard because we didn't really
12:44
want Captain Planet to look like
12:46
any. We're
12:49
supposed to be that he was
12:51
made of like stones and ice,
12:53
almost faceted, The. Animation Company
12:55
drop them potential character designs and
12:57
sent over a stack of the
12:59
final contenders for Barbara Pile to
13:01
deliver to Ted Turner himself. We.
13:03
Were actually in central park at the
13:06
boat pond and this a building over
13:08
there and see when and meet with
13:10
him and I was walking around outside
13:13
see comes out silicates. Ted picked the
13:15
picture. And to shows us that
13:17
was a drawing of Miss. Captain.
13:21
Planet doesn't look exactly like
13:23
make he has. Blue skin and
13:26
green hair and he wears his
13:28
underwear over a sites but there
13:30
is a resemblance and was I
13:32
ask you how nice? Oh my
13:34
god it was pretty crazy. Do
13:36
a very strong jaw I can
13:38
see at as this kind of
13:40
flattering on this. they had given
13:42
me residuals for that. The
13:47
captain planet had a lox. But
13:49
he still needed a voice. The acting is
13:51
t the starches. You know they have to
13:53
be over the top a ham it up.
13:56
And really be characters rather than.
13:58
People. isn't that Marcia
14:00
Goodman was the senior VP of talent
14:03
at the animation company Making Captain Planet,
14:05
and she was in charge of casting
14:07
and directing the voice actors. And my
14:09
coworker got a call and the person
14:12
said, Hi, I'm Tom Cruise.
14:14
I'd like to do the voice of Captain
14:16
Planet. And she said, yes, sure. And she
14:18
hung up. And
14:21
then he called back. He said, no, this is really
14:23
Tom Cruise. I
14:25
feel the need. The need
14:28
for peace. Tom
14:31
Cruise was shooting Days of Thunder,
14:33
I believe. And he took a
14:35
helicopter over from where they were
14:38
filming to Universal Studios. There
14:40
were like four or five of us and
14:42
Tom Cruise. And he agreed to do it.
14:45
Cruise recorded six episodes of Captain
14:47
Planet. But then the realities of
14:50
being Tom Cruise set in. Tom
14:53
Cruise was fine, but he just couldn't
14:55
keep up with our schedule. He had
14:57
other priorities like being a movie star.
15:00
So the six episodes he'd done had to be
15:02
re-taped, which meant Captain
15:04
Planet still needed a voice.
15:07
Good afternoon, America, the
15:09
world, Planet Earth is David Coburn,
15:11
the voice of Captain Planet. In
15:15
1990, David Coburn was a scrappy 21
15:17
year old actor looking for his big
15:19
break. He'd had a few small roles,
15:21
but he was constantly auditioning when he got
15:23
called in to read for the part of
15:26
Captain Planet. I came into the audition at
15:29
a studio in Burbank, California. I had
15:31
one scene to play in which Captain
15:33
Planet gets covered in toxic goo. And
15:36
the Planeteers wash him off with some
15:38
fresh water. And he stands up and
15:41
says, thanks, Planeteers. And I
15:44
shook myself off like a wet dog. I
15:46
went, thanks, Planeteers. That's
15:49
what got me the job. David was
15:52
thrilled, but he thought it was just a random
15:54
gig. I didn't know it was the
15:56
lead in an environmental cartoon series created
15:59
by Ted Turner. to help save the world
16:01
and teach kids about saving the planet. I didn't know
16:03
that at the time. What was the moment you were
16:05
like, this is not just some other regular voice gig?
16:07
When they told me you're replacing Tom Cruise and you have
16:09
six episodes to redo before you start recording with the rest
16:12
of the cast, I was like, oh. The
16:16
rest of the cast by this point
16:19
was pretty starry too. Whoopi Goldberg agreed
16:21
to voice Gaia. LeVar Burton had signed
16:23
on to play the West African planeteer
16:25
Kwame. Look at that thing.
16:27
It is dumping trash on that point of the town. The
16:31
idea was to enlist celebrities, especially
16:33
for villains and guest characters. We
16:35
wanted it to be a big
16:38
splash. The villains
16:40
all represented problems like pollution,
16:43
radiation, and overconsumption. And
16:45
the big names kept coming. They got
16:47
Meg Ryan to play the evil Dr.
16:49
Blight. Martin Sheen was the
16:52
nefarious Sly Sludge. Jeff Goldblum
16:54
was verminous scum. Some
16:57
people just got no appreciation for Phil.
17:01
As you can tell by all the famous
17:03
people signing on, Captain Planet had become something
17:05
of a cause celeb. People,
17:07
or famous people anyway, were excited
17:10
about it. This opportunity to try
17:12
and change the world with a
17:14
cartoon. It just needed
17:16
one finishing touch. A key
17:18
element of any kids' show. Captain
17:21
Planet, he's our
17:23
hero. Gonna take pollution down
17:25
to zero. The
17:28
very 1990s theme song was also
17:30
written by Nick Boxer. One weekend
17:32
I'm sitting there and something came
17:34
into my head and I started
17:37
writing and I wrote, Captain Planet,
17:39
he's our hero. Gonna take pollution
17:41
down to zero. He's
17:43
our powers magnified and he's fighting
17:45
on the planet's side. Yeah,
17:48
and then it goes on and on. You
17:50
pay for this, Captain Planet! So
17:55
from Ted Turner's Original pitch, just
17:57
those two words, Captain Planet
17:59
and. Nothing else. Nick and
18:01
Barbara had created a whole set
18:03
of characters and away they work.
18:05
Together that given them voices and
18:07
the seem song. And it's
18:09
a temper of nineteen ninety. The. Gave them
18:12
a from the your party. His
18:14
know about what happened in a violent
18:16
protests and other the he says hello
18:19
my and Lawless and Blossom was really
18:21
with a who's who of then child
18:23
Santa com a callow from the Wonder
18:26
years Jodie Sweetin from Full house where
18:28
they few. At
18:44
the party head Turner got up on
18:46
stage and it's arrests. And.
18:50
He made clear how
18:52
grand and grandiose his
18:54
expectations. Were for the series.
18:56
Hopefully this program will make a
18:59
big difference if it doesn't solve.
19:01
There isn't much future for the
19:03
species because most the experts say
19:05
we don't change things, the planet
19:08
or pretty well uninhabitable and another
19:10
thirty or forty years so let's
19:12
keep our fingers crossed. Then all
19:14
of the captain planet Atlanta two
19:17
years can save the planet. Thank
19:19
you very much. These
19:24
are extraordinary expectations to put
19:27
on a kids cartoon. especially
19:29
one kids hadn't even seen
19:32
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19:34
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19:36
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Planet and the Planeteers premiered on Saturday
22:06
morning, September 15th, 1990. In
22:10
the debut episode, the Planeteers have
22:12
to confront a terrible oil spill,
22:14
inspired by the real Exxon Valdez
22:16
catastrophe. It is
22:18
horrible! The whole gas plant has
22:20
been destroyed! Those poor
22:23
animals! We must help them! The
22:26
Planeteers call on Captain Planet to clean up
22:28
the oil, which he does by creating a
22:30
whirlpool that sucks it into the sea floor,
22:32
and then he seals it all up with a giant rock. This
22:39
is not the most sophisticated or
22:41
plausible of solutions, and
22:43
that gets directly at the
22:45
difficulty of making Captain Planet.
22:49
The show needed to inform a
22:51
new generation about pressing environmental
22:54
problems. Everything from strip
22:56
mining to deforestation to nuclear
22:58
waste, while also being
23:00
a fun cartoon. How do
23:02
you tell a story for children
23:04
that addresses these issues and
23:06
is compelling and fits what animation
23:08
is? Nick Boxer, the
23:11
co-creator of Captain Planet again.
23:13
Animation works very well for
23:15
straight entertainment, you know, Roadrunner,
23:17
Coyote, just hijinks,
23:20
sight tags, things like that, you
23:22
know, or very simple morality plays.
23:25
Captain Planet had to be
23:27
informative without being boring, detailed
23:29
without being scary, accurate,
23:32
but also wrapped up in just 22 minutes. It
23:35
was really incredibly challenging
23:38
and kind of fraught with all sorts of unforeseen
23:41
perils. You can
23:43
see how they tried to thread this needle
23:45
in an episode called Greenhouse Planet. It begins
23:48
with the planeteers watching the news. They
23:50
see the president, who sounds an awful lot
23:52
like then president George H.W. Bush,
23:55
giving a speech about the opening of
23:57
a new power plant. they
24:00
watch start to spew pollution
24:02
into the atmosphere. We
24:04
have just made the hugest oil find
24:06
in history, and burning this low-cost oil
24:08
will be a big help to our
24:10
troubled economy. But what about
24:12
the carbon dioxide that will release? It
24:15
acts like an invisible blanket heating up
24:17
the whole planet! It's
24:19
a real and serious problem, but it needed
24:21
to be lightened with some hijinks. The
24:24
oil the president is talking about
24:26
is being turned into rocket fuel,
24:28
and when the planeteers go looking
24:30
for him at the power plant,
24:32
they inadvertently get shot into outer
24:34
space on a rocket. Mr.
24:36
President, can you hear me? Mission
24:39
control cannot turn you around! Please
24:42
respond! Stuck on this
24:44
spaceship heading to Venus, the planeteers
24:46
lobby the stubborn president about the
24:48
dangers of greenhouse gases, with a
24:51
final push from Captain Planet himself.
24:53
Heard all this before about the
24:55
too-much-carbon-dioxide thing. Mr. President, if you
24:58
see what you're risking, maybe you'll
25:00
change your mind. Captain
25:02
Planet offers a vision of a world wracked by
25:05
climate change, with terrifying
25:07
post-apocalyptic imagery of mutant animals
25:09
and roving bands of several people.
25:11
For humans, it would mean farmland
25:13
turned to deserts, the collapse of
25:16
entire economies, hunger on an unimaginable
25:18
scale. But it probably won't be
25:20
that bad. Maybe. Or
25:23
maybe it'll be worse. It
25:26
was always a balancing act. The
25:28
idea wasn't to scare kids, but it was
25:30
to say these are real problems, and you
25:32
should be aware of them in a way
25:34
that's not traumatizing, but makes you care
25:36
about them. And one
25:38
way to make messy, complicated,
25:40
real environmental issues less traumatizing
25:44
is to solve them. We were really
25:46
trying to push boundaries, and how do
25:48
you deal with these kind of problems
25:50
without showing the consequences of the problems?
25:53
You had 20 minutes to tell a
25:55
whole story and resolve it. Most of
25:57
these problems obviously can't be resolved. Twenty
26:00
minutes, let alone a year or two years.
26:03
So. For example, in the episode
26:05
about greenhouse gas emissions, The planet
26:07
here is finally convinced the President to
26:09
set that power plant down. So
26:12
com tell me more about the solar
26:14
stuff and then when power says. He
26:17
my lips Mr. President May
26:19
was. This
26:21
happens in episode after episode.
26:23
A blunt conversation about everything
26:25
from Aids to land mines
26:28
to overpopulation is that doesn't
26:30
absolve. With the county,
26:33
That remind them for we do sausage
26:35
emissions before they create their own small
26:38
monster. This. Overall
26:40
approach surprisingly granular and
26:42
realistic about environmental dangers
26:45
with a happy ending.
26:47
Had. Appeal within a month of
26:49
it's for Me or Captain Planet
26:52
was syndicated on a hundred and
26:54
eighty stations in the United States
26:56
and sixty others worldwide, and the
26:58
response was positive. Captain Planet was
27:00
heralded. As a Superhero for the
27:03
Nineties and praised by educators. And
27:05
kids to. People
27:09
To Save the Environment. Something.
27:15
Like the Perfect handsets said
27:17
it back so fast that
27:19
it's way below zero. Even
27:22
a lot. Closer
27:25
ties. Overall, I'm
27:27
in a got a very good reception.
27:29
We were number one in syndication. We
27:31
got a couple of Emmy nominations. There
27:34
was. Even Captain Planet merchandise, though
27:36
in nothing like the volume of
27:38
shows like Transformers and See Man,
27:40
which had been created by toy
27:42
companies explicitly. To hoc product you're doing
27:44
so this is don't have over consumption
27:46
So we creed and a lot of
27:49
guidelines as the how you could merchandise
27:51
the product so he said you can't
27:53
make one time use products he couldn't
27:55
make sort of birthday party stuff that
27:57
was captain planet that was throw away.
28:00
You. Could make a costume that was
28:02
cloth but you couldn't A paper
28:04
plates Things had to have recycled
28:06
materials. You had to use reduced
28:08
amount of packaging material. Maybe.
28:11
Inevitably for sell at that such a
28:13
big complicated pop acts. It. Did
28:15
have it's clinics to. Nyc.
28:18
Says internally a turn us the
28:20
show standards about merchandise raise some
28:22
of the same misgivings their been
28:25
about the environmental division and it's
28:27
nature documentaries the company just couldn't
28:29
pass in. Other. More
28:32
overt critiques. Came from environmentalists
28:34
themselves who found the so
28:36
too simplistic. And then there
28:38
was the business community. Whether
28:40
Exxon Valdez, his Pr team
28:42
complaining about the oil spill
28:44
episode, or individuals taking issue
28:46
with the villains corporate sense.
28:50
Either fine, all for my
28:52
factory. From Tales of Time
28:54
I heard of those Allison
28:56
said to profit from sub
28:58
it. Even
29:01
more largely. Conservatives accuse the
29:03
So of having an agenda,
29:05
saying that it was quote
29:08
a propaganda tool aimed at
29:10
indoctrinating America. as the use. Indoctrination.
29:14
Is a fraught. Word. But the fact
29:16
is. The. So did have
29:18
an agenda. It stated purpose
29:20
was to impart wisdom and
29:22
guidance to the next generation
29:24
in the hopes they take.
29:26
Action On Environmental Crises.
29:29
And. Certainly in the short term seem
29:32
to be. Working at least on
29:34
the people working on the
29:36
show itself. I was
29:38
got the choice to smoke cigarettes and I'd throw my
29:41
cigarette butts out the window. all I was driving.
29:43
That's David Coburn again the voice of
29:45
Captain Planet. i didn't sort mattress
29:47
and never had a low energy light
29:49
bulb i grew up in the sixties
29:52
seventies was a huge consumer but when
29:54
captain planet got same as it really
29:56
was of the time to be throw
29:58
cigarette butts out your window. I
30:00
drive home from work sometimes and the kids on
30:02
my street called me Captain Planet. I
30:05
had to change. How did the
30:07
kids on your street know you were Captain Planet? I
30:10
told them. David was proud
30:12
of being Captain Planet, as
30:14
were many of the people involved. We had
30:17
a lot of talent who
30:19
worked, I think, extra hard
30:21
because this was this great
30:24
opportunity to be able to do something,
30:26
you know, doing well while doing good.
30:29
It was difficult to tell at the
30:31
time, though, how much good the show
30:33
was doing with the target audience.
30:36
Children. Nick describes it as
30:38
a kind of bubble in that regard. They didn't
30:40
know how kids were being affected by, say,
30:43
their episode about landmines in which one
30:45
child dies and another has
30:47
a limb blown off, or
30:49
how the one about overpopulation
30:51
in which an entire civilization
30:54
of rats crumbles and dies,
30:56
with sinking in with six-year-olds.
30:59
They didn't even know how effective the call to action
31:02
at the end of each
31:04
episode were. Where we'd give
31:06
something for children to do,
31:08
you know, recycling, volunteering for
31:10
park cleanups, turning the
31:12
lights off in the house. Do not
31:14
dump chlorine bleach, solvents and other toxic
31:17
materials down your drain. And
31:19
heat things like motor oil and batteries out
31:21
of your trash. Telling
31:23
park cleanups, not dumping bleach
31:25
and batteries. These are all
31:27
individual actions, and they're helpful.
31:30
But the show was aiming for
31:32
something bigger and longer term. It
31:35
was trying to plant a seed, and
31:37
it tried for six seasons and 113
31:39
episodes. And
31:43
then on May 11, 1996,
31:45
kids tuned in for an episode about the
31:47
evils of puppy mills and
31:50
saw what would be the final
31:52
episode of Captain Planet. Can
31:55
you tell me how it came to an end? With
32:00
a whimper than a bang. By.
32:02
This point, there are more than
32:04
enough episodes for syndication. The series
32:06
was getting expensive and Turner Broadcasting
32:09
was being sold. A lot of
32:11
it's environmental programming upscale back and
32:13
so they quietly declined. To
32:15
renew Captain Planet. Overall.
32:18
I'm in. There was a certain sense. Over
32:21
the years of accomplishment by south
32:23
a little let down. In
32:26
Tv terms, to last for
32:29
more than a hundred episodes,
32:31
as Captain Planet did, represents
32:33
an unqualified success for a
32:35
cartoon. The Captain Planet was
32:37
never just a cartoon. It.
32:40
Was a cartoon with a mission. To
32:43
see that has planted. It. Was
32:45
supposed to grow. According to
32:47
call creator Nick Boxer, Ted Turner
32:50
always wanted it to be an
32:52
agent. Of change. At one point
32:54
he said if one child is
32:56
changed by this it'll have been
32:58
worth it. When
33:00
we come back, we're going to jump
33:02
forward in time to see if the
33:05
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33:07
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like d as grew up in the
35:02
Philippines in the late nineteen seventies and
35:04
early eighties under the dictatorial regime of
35:06
Ferdinand Marcos. This was during
35:09
martial law and in martial
35:11
law be cancelled. All.
35:13
These cartoons that had
35:15
a narrative of rebels
35:17
winning against you know,
35:19
the oppressor. That. Included
35:21
he lacks favorite cartoon Volt.
35:24
His Five, a Japanese animated
35:26
series featured robots are rising
35:28
up against the dictatorship. Jordan's.
35:30
Your love for smoking. When
35:33
the Philippines own dictator flat in Nineteen
35:35
Eighty Six cartoons came back to the
35:37
country in a big way. In
35:40
Nineteen Eighty Seven, Santa
35:42
Barbara started an operation
35:44
in the Philippines, making
35:46
cartoons. They began to
35:48
animate many classic properties right there
35:50
in Manila. Yogi Bear, Scooby Doo,
35:53
The Flintstones it like Watch them
35:55
All. And when Ted Turner acquired
35:58
Hanna Barbera, Captain Planet started. The
36:00
made in the Philippines to monitor
36:02
getting some fitness. this is go
36:04
down for a closer look. It
36:07
was unlike anything. A. Lack of
36:09
seen before. you know in the
36:11
Philippines were used to having somebody
36:13
fly in right? Superman would come
36:16
to save the day and very
36:18
american stories And and suddenly here
36:20
was this story where everyone could
36:23
be a planet Here. Since.
36:32
I said oh my gosh, and
36:34
on brown heroes we never see
36:37
brown heroes. And so this is
36:39
from a narrative of being saved
36:41
or being the recipient of help
36:43
into something where we can finally
36:45
be heroes. It's
36:48
like a lack was eavesdropping on
36:50
what the Captain Planet Creative team had
36:52
been trying to do, receiving all the
36:54
messages the show intended. I mean
36:57
I I really felt that each
36:59
one of us can be part
37:01
of the changed. I really believed
37:03
in my role of one day
37:05
becoming Captain Planet Philippines. His
37:08
whole life he likes that time in
37:10
nature of hiking, exploring, swimming. He went
37:12
to college hoping to do something that
37:14
help people and then climbing mountains in
37:17
the Philippines yeah than a piss any
37:19
in a remote village. One of the
37:21
things. That they realize us I
37:23
was travelling was the lack of
37:26
power have access to electricity. Every
37:28
few weeks rural villagers in the mountains
37:31
the Philippines without the height down to
37:33
the city by huge drums of kerosene
37:35
and then bring them back up. Fuses,
37:38
Fuel. It was dangerous,
37:40
expensive, and toxic. So.
37:42
A lack team up with a solution. I.
37:44
Started teaching them how to build solar
37:47
lights by hand. Simple things that they
37:49
can repair instead of having a breakdown
37:51
every two years. Elect went
37:54
on to found an organization com leader
37:56
of Light which has brought solar light
37:58
is thirty country so far. And
38:00
he knows exactly who he credits
38:02
for his career. It starts with
38:05
this role model that
38:07
I would see every day on our TV.
38:10
Every day, do what you can to clean
38:12
up our planet. Then you can be a
38:14
hero too. The power
38:16
is ours! ILAQ
38:20
is not the only person who attests
38:22
to being changed by Captain Planet. To
38:25
all the 90's kids I grew up with, Captain
38:27
Planet, we're going to talk about this show. Zinnials
38:29
will tell you that 90% of us care about
38:31
the planet because of this show. These
38:38
are just some TikTok testimonials to
38:40
the cartoon. It's still lingering in
38:42
the public consciousness, or
38:44
the millennial consciousness anyway. Nick
38:47
Boxer, the series co-creator and the
38:49
inspiration for Captain Planet's very
38:51
face, has heard first-hand stories
38:54
of the show's influence many
38:56
times over. 25
38:58
years later, I'd be in a grocery
39:00
store and I'm wearing a Captain Planet t-shirt. Someone would
39:03
say to me, where did you get that? That was
39:05
my favorite show when I was growing up. I
39:08
can't help them but say, yeah, actually
39:10
that was my show. They're like, oh
39:12
my god, when I was a kid, that got
39:14
me to grow up recycling. It made me think
39:16
of the world in an environmental way. That was
39:19
so formative for me. The
39:21
show was formative for Nick too. But when
39:24
I asked him about it, it wasn't quite in
39:26
the way I expected. Did the
39:28
show change your thinking in any way
39:30
about the environment? Yeah, it
39:32
did. It made
39:34
me less optimistic. Nick
39:38
Boxer is proud of Captain Planet. He's
39:41
proud when he meets the grown-ups who
39:43
he helped inspire as kids. But
39:46
he and we know more than we did back
39:48
in the early 1990s. Captain
39:51
Planet may have done what it set out
39:54
to do, to get kids
39:56
to care about the planet. But
39:59
it's been nowhere. near enough.
40:02
I just feel like Captain Planet, like anything
40:04
else, is just a drop in the bucket.
40:06
And it takes a lot of drops to fill that bucket.
40:09
My question is, can we generate enough drops?
40:12
The tough truth is that those
40:15
kids who grew up watching Captain
40:17
Planet and who were changed by
40:19
it, my generation, have also lived
40:21
through and contributed to the largest
40:23
greenhouse gas emissions in the history
40:25
of humankind. And here
40:28
we are, adults ourselves now,
40:31
still hoping like the adults that came
40:33
before us, that the next
40:35
generation will be able to do something
40:37
about it. I don't think
40:39
that the kids of today will have the
40:41
time to solve the problem. We
40:44
adjust. Until we
40:46
can't adjust anymore. It's
40:49
because Nick cares about kids and cares
40:51
about the Earth that he and
40:53
his wife decided not to have children of their own.
40:56
And we love children. She's a
40:58
school teacher, and we sort of thought we would have
41:00
kids. But there's also, I think, a part of me
41:02
that because of what I did, said,
41:04
how do I bring a child into this
41:06
world that I can't see a great
41:09
future for? The whole
41:11
Captain Planet project has some of the
41:13
same flaws as a Captain Planet episode.
41:16
I was also supposed to wrap
41:18
up with a too easy, happy ending. The
41:20
ills of the world were dressed not
41:22
by some cartoon characters, but
41:25
by a cartoon series. Captain
41:28
Planet is a bittersweet artifact from
41:30
a different time, one more
41:32
hopeful but also naïve and full of
41:34
hubris. When you can
41:36
imagine that a kid's cartoon could
41:38
save the world, or that the
41:41
widespread dissemination of facts would result
41:43
in widespread agreement about what to
41:45
do with them. When
41:47
empowering, the next generation felt
41:50
like a purely inspired notion.
41:53
Not like kicking the can down the road, asking
41:55
kids to do what their grown-ups would
41:57
not. For
42:00
to be inspired Lethal. Need to
42:02
be engaged and given knowledge and direction about
42:04
how to help the wounded. World their
42:07
inheriting but. of Captain Planet
42:09
accomplished what it meant to if
42:11
the see this show planted. really.
42:13
Bloomed the former children.
42:16
Now adults who watched it back
42:19
in the nineteen nineties have an
42:21
obligation to keep pinning their hopes
42:23
for a different future. On
42:26
no one but themselves. I
42:29
mean, I just don't understand. How
42:31
people to look at the world and
42:34
not see what we're doing to our
42:36
planet? How they cannot see
42:38
what they're doing to themselves. Watching.
42:41
Tv is easy. It's everything
42:43
else that's hard. He
42:45
has to pass on something more useful
42:47
and inspiring. Than just reruns.
42:58
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the biggest cases just as quickly as
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we can bound to our closets
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and fire up our laptops to
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speak to you. From presidential immunity
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to social media content regulation to
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domestic abusers' gun rights, we will
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be here unpacking the news for you.
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Listen to Amicus wherever you get your
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podcasts. Beep.
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Beep.
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