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explains these for why he doesn't remember where

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he was the first time he heard the

30:04

Canucks rumor. But he does

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remember his reaction to it. JAY

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Like, Kirk and I were friends, I barely

30:11

knew his ex-wife. KAREN

30:16

That being Leslie. As for

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Jayne? JAY Yeah, no, never met Jayne. KAREN Like

30:21

Kirk, Jeff doesn't hear about the

30:23

rumor too often. Certainly not in

30:25

person, and only occasionally online. JAY

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Some of my buddies would, like, joke

30:29

about it and say, oh, apparently on Twitter

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you slept with Kirti's wife,

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is that true? And I'm like, no,

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it hasn't really affected me. KAREN Even

30:39

so, Jeff does have some insight into

30:41

his mysterious trade back in 1995, the

30:45

thing that has held up as the longest-standing bit

30:47

of proof that the rumor is true. It

30:50

turns out it did have something to do

30:52

with locker room dynamics, a power struggle behind

30:54

the scenes. Only it wasn't between

30:56

Jeff and Kirk. JAY Me and Ricky Lee didn't

30:59

get along. KAREN Rick Lee, the coach who took

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over in 1995 after

31:03

the cup run. Jeff got a new boss,

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and they butted heads. JAY I was not his player, and

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then my game suffered. Yeah, so it was time. I didn't

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move on. KAREN

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And if you go back 30 years, that

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story, it's out there too.

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It's online, way back in 1996. JAY

31:29

Rick Lee traded him away because the two didn't

31:31

hit it off. KAREN It's even

31:33

in Eric Dwyer's reporting at the time. JAY

31:35

Jeff Brown's days were numbered for the moment.

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He started taking potshots at his coach. Lee

31:40

and Brown eventually agreed to disagree in private,

31:42

but they never did kiss and make up.

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KAREN I

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just want to state the beyond obvious here.

31:51

Players having tension with their coach.

31:53

Players getting traded. An elite

31:55

athlete being down because he lost the

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Stanley Cup. A team, not make it.