This episode is a taping of Rose + Gail's first live show, recorded in front of an audience in New York City on June 17th, 2017.

Mother & daughter tell the origin story of the podcast and everything that went with it: from heartbreak and late night phone calls to an attempt to see Tony Bennett in concert.

We featured music by Tony Bennett and Trina. Our theme music is to Tony Mottola.

Dara Hirsch scores and mixes our episodes, Juan Marcos Percy recorded the show and Rob Schulte assisted with the event. Emily Kennedy transcribes all of our audio. Special thanks to Matthew Reid and Norman & Irene Margolies.