If you could create a cybersecurity advocacy position, what would it look like? In this latest episode of the DevSec for Scale Podcast, Ashish Rajan, CISO at PageUp People and host of the Cyber Security Podcast (cybersecuritypodcast.tv), talks with Jeremy about why cybersecurity needs advocates the way developers have. He also speaks about the how a cybersecurity and cloud security advocacy program could help the industry immensely.