36:00

any bus. I mean, Polly.

36:02

Where do you begin with that with somebody

36:05

with a new partner? Do you know this

36:07

podcast has helped us on

36:09

extraordinary levels. Like when we

36:12

were talking about sex positive parenting, right, we've

36:14

got two 10 year olds, one on his

36:16

side, one on my side. We

36:18

need to unite because they're going to be talking about

36:20

sex soon. And we need to have the same conversation

36:23

with them. You know, there's four children

36:25

coming together, learning about the world under

36:27

our roof when they're with us. So

36:31

we've had to have quite robust chats

36:33

about how we parent. So

36:35

there's not passive aggression around how

36:37

one person does one thing and

36:39

someone does the other. It's

36:41

just that constant open communication. And

36:43

again, we won't always get it

36:45

right, but I'm with somebody who's

36:47

just so kind of empathetic and

36:49

extraordinary with his children. Like

36:52

it's so beautiful to watch. And I

36:54

suppose like, you know, other people out

36:56

there that might not have that, that

36:58

might be, you know, in a new

37:00

partnership, but that doesn't have, you know,

37:02

the support, I suppose, of somebody that's

37:04

very empathetic and understandable and, you know,

37:06

gets it. How

37:09

would you begin those sorts of conversations,

37:11

I suppose? I don't know. You're not

37:13

an expert, but like, no, categorically not.

37:15

Not an expert. No, but, you know,

37:17

you have a you're living it. You're

37:19

experiencing what we do is we make

37:21

sure so

37:24

I do this game of highs and lows and

37:26

it's been really useful. And I've

37:29

loved doing it with the four of us and obviously

37:31

soon to be five. We sit

37:33

around the dinner table and we go, like, what was

37:35

the high point of your week and what was the

37:37

low point of your week? And you start to see

37:39

a pattern of like the common denominators of what they're

37:41

struggling with, the things that making them happy. You can

37:43

then kind of draw from that. Like, so for my

37:45

youngest, it's a girl that's picking on her at school.

37:48

So I know that talking about self-esteem,

37:50

bullying is going to be something that

37:52

needs to navigate with her. Something maybe

37:55

she'd listen a little bit more from

37:57

Olly. So we sort of cross reference

37:59

each. I'll

40:00

be up in the attic. Do you know what I really need

40:03

you? It's probably the first week when the baby's not sleeping. If

40:06

you could just come in there like Nanny McPhee, what are

40:08

we gonna call you? Aunty P. Aunty P.

40:11

P-dog. Aunty Poon, I was gonna

40:13

say. Aunty Poon. I don't think so. I'm not happy

40:15

with that. What about Abby, have you considered? And in

40:17

a water birth? No, it's

40:19

C-section, because I've had C-sections before, so it's

40:21

out the tin roof. But

40:23

I also did want to ask on this

40:26

podcast if you would be the

40:28

godmother. Oh my god, do you

40:30

see it? I'm gonna cry. You

40:33

have literally, you've been

40:36

by my side through all of this. I

40:39

absolutely, I would be so honored. I'd be

40:41

so honored. I mean, you're the last person

40:43

I want guide to this child, if I'm

40:45

being really honest. Do you know I'm gonna

40:47

become a sexologist? Yes, I categorically do. I

40:49

know all, I've got the cards all face

40:52

up. But I'm

40:55

not religious, so maybe we'll call you an odd parent. An

40:58

odd parent? Instead of a godparent. Fitting.

41:03

I think more of an old parent. But... I'm

41:06

absolutely thrilled. I

41:09

cannot tell you how connected I

41:11

feel to this baby already. And

41:14

it's for all the reasons I've just explained. It's like,

41:18

it's like stealing a little bit of joy back. That's

41:21

what it feels like. It feels like, so

41:23

yeah, actually getting to celebrate. Yeah,

41:25

and I know it's not for me, it's for you. It's

41:29

for I'm gonna continue to center myself in your life. What?

41:33

But Pawnee, you have utterly, utterly helped

41:35

me. I think anybody that's been a

41:38

regular listener to this show can attest

41:40

that God, it hasn't been easy. God,

41:42

we've been on a journey. I mean, I don't

41:44

think when we started this podcast, we had any

41:46

idea where it was gonna get to.

41:48

I mean, did you think when we started this two years ago,

41:50

I'd be knocked up and engaged. No. You'd

41:53

be a sexologist. No, well, I mean, it was

41:55

looking like I was. It was looking like, actually,

41:57

I'm a sexologist. Or just maybe a sex worker.