Tim and Daren discuss the tension between institutional church- both local churches and denominations- and disciple making. While they have discussed this in some measure in the past, today they are taking a stab at identifying the core issue and possible solutions.

Learn more about Tim at https://imakedisciples.com
See Tim's book Turning Over a New Leaf on Amazon: https://www.amazon.ca/Turning-Over-Leaf-Timothy-Beadle-ebook/dp/B09455BG2V

Learn more about Daren at https://darenwride.com and https://12church.com 
See his book DNA of a Christ Follower on Amazon: https://amzn.to/3BtnvIx