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April fifteenth, ninety. Ninety Seven. A teenage boy

2:11

was playing hooky from school to go fishing.

2:14

He. Knew exactly where to go.

2:16

Potato Creek. This. Was a

2:18

small running. Creek that sometimes flooded one swollen

2:20

with rainwater is a run, but at this

2:22

time a year a within normal level. This.

2:25

All took place in Union Grove, Alabama,

2:27

a rural area of Mercer County. The.

2:30

Creek Access the team went to was off

2:32

Eagle Rock Drive three miles west of the

2:34

small town of A Rap and about half

2:37

a mile from the Marshall Morgan County line.

2:40

At around eleven am, the teenager saw something up.

2:42

Ahead on the creek bank, it wasn't

2:45

assess. He must have had the south

2:47

of his life to find the body of a

2:49

man lying halfway in the creek. That the man

2:51

was wearing clothes, but some things were notably nothing.

2:53

Has had his hands and his feet.

2:56

The boy ran home and told his parents. I

2:58

couldn't help wondering whether he got in trouble for

3:00

playing hooky, but I would imagine not what he

3:02

saw That say, no doubt impacted. Him for the rest

3:05

of his life and not in a good way. Deputies

3:08

from the marshall. County Sheriff's office arrived

3:10

summoned to the location by the teenagers.

3:13

Parents don't call. And they're in the

3:15

woods on the edge of the crease, just as the boy had

3:17

report it. Was. A mutilated body of

3:19

a white male. His. Ankles

3:21

were still tied together by a piece

3:23

of rope and wire ties. additional pieces

3:25

of matching role play on the ground.

3:28

Nearby diligence searches of the area didn't

3:30

turn up the man's missing extremities, but

3:32

a bunch of air fresheners were found

3:34

by the body. These. Lead

3:36

in part to an investigative. Theory of the

3:38

case. An autopsy on the

3:41

mutilated man revealed the following: He was a

3:43

white male between the ages of nineteen and

3:45

thirty. He was about five foot nine inches

3:47

tall, and one hundred and fifty five pounds.

3:50

Based. On his body hair, he had reddish

3:52

blond hair on his missing head as well.

3:55

The young man's head and hands had been

3:57

removed by a tooth blade such as a

3:59

saw. His. It was reported had

4:01

a nibble that detached and removed by animal

4:03

predation, but I believe this is inaccurate and

4:05

they were removed as well. But.

4:08

That wasn't all. Some other body

4:10

parts were missing internal. Once the

4:12

pathologists. Found an open wound on the

4:15

man's chest and his heart and spleen

4:17

had been removed with near surgical precision.

4:20

It's the stuff of nightmares. The.

4:22

Pathologist ruled the man's death a homicide.

4:25

By sharp force trauma. It was

4:27

not clear whether that meant he been stabbed. Or

4:29

shot or what? Mercer County Sheriff's

4:31

Office Chief Deputy Willie or told.

4:33

Mcclatchy News in an email quote Based on

4:36

the location of the incision, we do believe

4:38

that this was done to. Destroy forensic

4:40

evidence and quote. They called

4:42

it a forensic countermeasure. But.

4:46

Marshall. County Sheriff's Office Chief Investigator

4:48

Keith Wilson. Works this case for his entire

4:51

tenure at the Sheriff's office. Being assigned

4:53

the case in two thousand when he joined the

4:55

agency, He recently retired. He

4:57

told W H and T quote someone went

4:59

to great lengths to hide the identity of

5:02

our victim and the of his death. The.

5:05

Investigators theory was that the. Extremities or

5:07

removed to prevent identification via fingerprints

5:09

and dental and the internal organs

5:11

were removed because they bore evidence

5:13

of trauma that to provide investigative

5:15

leap. For. Example evidence of

5:18

the type of knife blade used or bullet

5:20

that were buried in those organs. It

5:23

seems Investigator Cute wilson lean toward

5:25

gunshots he told Sand Mountain News

5:27

and twenty Twenty One that's the

5:29

john doe's killer had a good

5:31

understanding of anatomy. The quote

5:33

surgical type wounds in the victims

5:35

chest most likely. Were intended to

5:38

obscure bullet holes. And removed the ballistic

5:40

evidence from the court. So.

5:43

The investigators didn't have much to go on.

5:45

They took a look at what they had

5:47

according to what's been released. The john doe

5:49

was moderately decomposed, but Investigator Wilson did not

5:51

think that he had been lying on that

5:53

creek bank the whole time he'd been dead.

5:56

Space. On the amputations. And the

5:58

surgery performed on his body. He. Was certainly

6:00

killed and mutilated elsewhere. Wilson.

6:03

Told the Gadsden Times quote, he decompose

6:05

somewhere else The body was only there

6:07

a matter of days or less. The

6:09

body had been stored somewhere else before

6:11

it was disposed of in that creek.

6:13

And quote: The air fresheners

6:15

where the dead giveaway. Here, They were either

6:17

used by someone to obscure the. Smell of

6:19

D Com Indoors somewhere where John Doe

6:21

was being stored or they were used

6:23

to keep the smell from pervading a

6:26

vehicle while the decomposing body was transported.

6:28

We need to add a new item to our

6:31

list of suspicious purchases. Like rope, zip ties

6:33

and rubber gloves. Or most, a pack

6:35

of glade. So. Donda

6:37

was killed somewhere else, parts of them removed

6:39

and disposed of in the in tax torso,

6:41

leg on portion of him south somewhere until

6:44

someone could no longer a bad the smell

6:46

or was afraid of being noticed And that's

6:48

when this person decided to deposit John Doe

6:50

in the woods on the side of could

6:53

take a creek perhaps hoping that the water

6:55

would rise and russia or mans away forever.

6:58

Investigator Wilson told the San Martin Reporter

7:00

quote, somebody local may have placed the

7:02

body their it's not just the. Place.

7:04

You signed. It's a remote area. He

7:07

told the Gadsden Times quote, i don't think

7:09

somebody was. As wandering through the area would

7:11

have found that spot. It

7:13

was down a dirt road that wasn't used much. There

7:15

were no houses and the area where the body

7:17

was place and whoever left in their knew that

7:19

he would not be seen. Dropping off as

7:22

incriminating cargo. But. Maybe he was more

7:24

on that in a moment. Because.

7:27

There was no way to identify the

7:29

John Dell. No prints, know face. Know

7:31

Sue size, know wallet and his jeans

7:33

pocket. The investigators looks to his

7:36

clothing. these were have faded glory sorts

7:38

sleep pull over sir with blue, green

7:40

and gray vertical stripes and thirty two.

7:42

Thirty: Levi Strauss Cyber One. Genes.

7:45

You could not get more generic clothing if you

7:47

tried, so that led nowhere. But. Interestingly,

7:49

the dando was wearing a shirt, despite his

7:51

chest having been. Opened up to remove

7:54

them organs. Investigator Wilson told the

7:56

Gadsden Times quotes there were indications

7:58

that he was redress. Unfortunately,

8:00

I couldn't get investigators at the Marshall

8:02

County Sheriff's Office answer my questions about

8:04

this case. One of it was about

8:07

the body being redressed. Marshall.

8:12

County investigators began sifting through missing

8:14

persons. Reports from the area and the

8:16

wider region hoping that they would come across

8:18

one in which a young white male would.

8:21

John Doe's physical characteristics was reported. That

8:23

they didn't find one appeals to the public

8:25

for information, gilded some tips that led to

8:27

dead ends. Investigators concluded that John

8:29

Doe was likely not from the area and

8:32

had been dumped there by someone who was.

8:35

Police. Turn to the only hope they had

8:37

of the time, a possible witness sighting of someone

8:39

involved in the case. Three. Days before

8:42

John Doe was found by the young angler. On

8:44

April Twelfth, a witness saw a man in the

8:46

area. After John Doe's discovery with

8:48

publicized is witness came forward to relate with

8:50

he'd seen the man the witness saw stood

8:53

out because he hadn't been seen around here

8:55

before and he was quote acting neuro. Police.

8:58

Believe that this man might have been there because he

9:00

was dumping. John Doe's body. They

9:02

actually arranged for the witness to undergo

9:04

hypnosis to recall as many details as

9:06

possible. About the suspicious man. As

9:09

gets was released of the man. The witness saw

9:11

and it is very specific. A description

9:13

of his vehicle was also released. The.

9:16

Man and a sketch was a white

9:18

male six foot one, two hundred and

9:21

ten pounds with a long face, a

9:23

very high forehead, black color length hair,

9:25

a larger nose. Would have possibly been

9:27

broken or was crooked. A quote:

9:29

Fu Manchu mustache and sick Prominent

9:32

arbor. He was wearing

9:34

at Hansard Genes black rubber boots

9:36

and black driving gloves. Yup, that's

9:38

gonna attract attention. The

9:40

man was driving a Ninety Ninety

9:43

Two to Ninety Ninety Four Brandywine

9:45

read: Chevy Silverado truck with tinted

9:47

windows, chrome that rails, a tailgate

9:50

protector, bug guard, texas tips on

9:52

the exhaust black while tires and

9:54

factory aluminum wheels. The license plate

9:57

was. A Georgia Tech would two letters

9:59

and three numbers. The. Second letter was

10:01

a be. There. Was an emblem and

10:03

possibly a flag. On the left side of the

10:05

plate. Despite. The

10:07

amazing specificity of this information and a

10:09

letter in the tough license plates the

10:11

police were unable to locate the man

10:13

in the Turk. As

10:15

a later Marshall County Sheriff's Office press

10:17

release about the efforts to identify John

10:20

Doe states, quote investigators from the Marshall.

10:22

County Sheriff's Office and the State

10:24

Bureau of Investigation worked tirelessly to

10:27

identify the individual and followed up.

10:29

on numerous leads, That. They were

10:31

still unsuccessful in. Making a positive identification

10:33

and quote. Two years

10:35

after John Doe. Was found in Nineteen

10:38

Ninety Nine. Then Gov Don Siegelman

10:40

announcer Five thousand dollar reward been

10:42

offered for information leading to the

10:45

identification. Of John Doe. Police.

10:48

Followed up over the years on tips that came in

10:50

some of which. Were probably motivated by the

10:52

reward money. They tax and people named

10:54

and these tips and question them but were never

10:56

able to connect anyone to the crime and no

10:58

one give them any identifying. Information for

11:00

Dando: Rumors flu among the

11:03

community and the Ruth area in some of

11:05

them persisted for years. I

11:07

was able to find posts online by locals

11:09

professing to know that. John Doe was murdered

11:11

by drug dealers with names like a bulldog

11:13

and had his head, hands, and organs were

11:15

all dumped in different places by multiple participants

11:17

in the murder. Police of course

11:20

ran down all rumors like this, even

11:22

interviewing some people they considered suspects. And

11:24

that number. Over. The

11:26

years investigators did what they could do to

11:28

advance to windows case the details of his

11:31

murderer entered into the F B i said

11:33

i can't database and the F B. I

11:35

do some investigating as well but no credible

11:37

leave the room. John. Doe was

11:39

given a name as Page U P Eight Eight

11:41

Eight and was listed on the Don't Network as

11:43

well. Users the

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September twenty nineteen, the Mercer County authorities release

13:20

some more information than held a press

13:22

conference to inform the media of the status

13:24

of the case and attempts together. Helpful tip.

13:28

Investigator Keith Wilson had now been working the

13:30

John Doe case. For nineteen years. He

13:32

told the media quote every investigators since

13:34

Nineteen Ninety Seven that has come through

13:36

the Sheriff's office has in some way

13:39

touch this case, interviewed somebody, or followed

13:41

up on leads. I. Have done extensive

13:43

work on it. I would love to solve this

13:45

case. Before I retire. Wilson.

13:48

Said that the remains in the possession of

13:50

the state forensic lab had been reexamined several.

13:52

Times over the years. He told

13:54

the media that he had gathered both nuclear

13:57

and mitochondrial dna from John Doe. And.

13:59

Submitted it. CODIS's unidentified human remains

14:01

database with no hits. He

14:04

had sent the rope binding John Doe's ankles

14:06

and all his clothing to forensic labs to

14:08

be analyzed for touch DNA that could lead

14:10

to the killer, all to no avail. Quote,

14:14

The main focus right now is to look for a

14:16

person that may be possibly missing that has never been

14:18

reported. If anybody knows anything like

14:20

that, if they would call us, that would be

14:22

great, Wilson said. It's a matter

14:24

of identifying that person, and I think that's

14:26

been the holdup of the case all along.

14:30

Under questioning from the media, Wilson said that

14:32

the agency was researching whether they could use

14:34

a private lab to analyze the DNA from

14:36

John Doe. In particular, they were

14:39

interested in technology that would permit the

14:41

creation of a computer-generated image of John

14:43

Doe's face, since they didn't have

14:45

his head that was deemed an essential starting point. They

14:47

were assessing the amount of funds that would

14:50

be required to do phenotyping and genealogy, about

14:52

$12,000. We

14:54

hoped to allow a family somewhere some closure

14:57

to their missing loved one, Marshall County

14:59

Sheriff Phil Simms said. Well,

15:02

they did. Chief Investigator Keith

15:04

Wilson proposed to Sheriff Simms that they

15:06

hire Parabon Nanolabs to help identify John

15:08

Doe. This from the Sand Mountain

15:11

Reporter, quote, This is the only

15:13

cold case we have where we do not have an

15:15

identification on the victim, said Wilson. When

15:17

they brought me this option, I said absolutely,

15:19

Sheriff Simms said. All leads and

15:21

interviews we have done up to this point have gone nowhere. We

15:24

don't know who was telling the truth. If we can

15:26

identify the victim, we can solve this case. They

15:29

gathered the funds required to pay for the DNA

15:32

testing and analysis. DNA was extracted

15:34

from one of John Doe's femurs by

15:36

the Alabama Department of Forensic Sciences. And

15:39

in December 2019, 3.5 nanograms of DNA was sent to Parabon. Whole

15:44

genome sequencing produced 97.9% of

15:47

the SNPs needed for investigative genetic

15:49

genealogy after imputation. In

15:52

May 2021, the Marshall County Sheriff's

15:54

Office released a phenotype image of

15:57

John Doe prepared using Parabon's

15:59

snapshot. technology. It was the first time

16:01

John Doe had ever been given facial features,

16:04

which were dictated by his DNA. The

16:07

computer-generated image showed a light-skinned white

16:09

male with a prominent chin, sandy

16:11

hair, blue or green eyes, and

16:13

some freckles. His ancestry

16:15

was largely Northern European. The

16:18

sheriff's office, hoping against hope that someone's recognition

16:20

would be triggered by the image of John

16:22

Doe, implored the public for help.

16:26

Behind the scenes, Parabon was conducting a

16:28

genealogy analysis of the case. It

16:31

took a long time as the sequencing and

16:33

imputation were complex and the genealogy was not

16:35

clear-cut. Parabon delivered the

16:37

phenotype to the MCSO on November

16:41

17, 2020, but the genealogy was not completed

16:43

until August 2022. It

16:46

took this much time because when John

16:48

Doe's SNP profile was initially uploaded to

16:50

GEDmatch, the top match was only 54

16:52

centimorgans, a very distant

16:54

cousin. The top seven matches ranged from

16:56

54 centimorgans on the high end

16:58

to 33 centimorgans on the low end. Parabon's

17:01

initial report recommended a few courses of

17:04

action. One would be to pay

17:06

to upload to Family Tree DNA to access any

17:08

additional matches that might be in the database there.

17:11

Another might be to just wait. Parabon would

17:13

continually monitor uploads to both databases to see

17:16

if any additional matches came in. The

17:18

agency approved the upload to Family Tree

17:20

DNA and this was done in March

17:22

2021. With

17:25

additional uploads to GEDmatch and some

17:27

matches located in the Family Tree

17:29

DNA database, the genealogist's top 10

17:31

matches then ranged from 63 at

17:33

the high end to 41 at the low end. However,

17:36

things were complicated by pedigree collapse.

17:38

I've addressed this phenomenon in previous

17:41

episodes. It's often seen in

17:43

rural isolated communities with significant

17:45

intermarriage. Members of this population

17:47

group share more DNA in common than is typical

17:49

and the matches are often related in more than

17:51

one way. You'll hear what I mean in a

17:53

moment. Despite the confusing interrelatedness

17:56

of many of the matches in John Doe's lineage, the

17:58

genealogist's top 10 matches were not included in the Stephanie

18:00

Wyatt focused on a recurring

18:02

surname among the matches, Burke.

18:05

She eventually connected three of the

18:08

matches back to common ancestor William

18:10

Burke's, born in 1743. Paribon

18:13

continued to monitor weekly uploads and was

18:15

able to progress the analysis when someone

18:17

sharing 195 centimorgans of DNA with the

18:21

subject, the equivalent of a second cousin

18:23

once removed, entered his or her

18:25

DNA into the family tree DNA database.

18:28

This was a significantly closer relationship than

18:30

had previously been located, but

18:32

hopes were temporarily dashed when the

18:34

genealogist saw that the uploader had

18:36

an untraceable email address. A

18:39

search indicated that more than a dozen people

18:41

in the United States had the same name

18:43

that was attached to this email address and

18:45

the genealogist was not about to research every

18:47

one of their trees. So

18:49

they focused on one who lived in geographic

18:51

proximity to some of the other people in

18:53

the Burke family tree that the genealogist could

18:55

see. This eventually led Ms.

18:58

Wyatt to identify the 195 centimorgan

19:00

cousin whose mother's maiden name

19:03

was Kimsey. When

19:05

she had the name of the likely second

19:07

cousin once removed, Ms. Wyatt set to work

19:09

constructing a detailed tree for this new top

19:11

match, going back four generations

19:13

and then performing descendancy research to connect

19:15

in any other matches she knew were

19:17

related to John Doe. Since

19:20

she knew he had the surname Burke in his

19:22

heritage, she was careful to focus on that name

19:24

if and when it came up. While

19:27

she was constructing the family tree of this 195 centimorgan

19:30

second cousin once removed of John

19:32

Doe, she found a name in the

19:34

tree that stood out because it was somewhat unusual and she'd

19:36

seen it before. An ancestor of the

19:38

top match was a David Kimsey born in 1755. So

19:40

based on the suspected

19:44

relationship between the top match and

19:46

John Doe, Ms. Wyatt went

19:48

all the way back to match number

19:50

one's great-grandparents who were Lewis Kimsey born

19:52

1896 and Edna

19:54

Jones born 1897 and she

19:57

researched the descendants of that couple. She

19:59

found one one son, Edward Kimsey,

20:01

born 1916, who married a

20:03

Gladys Esteli Sweet, born 1921.

20:07

Gladys' mother, Cora's, made a name

20:09

with Birks. This was the aha

20:12

moment for the genealogist, who had been on the lookout

20:14

for that name. In looking at

20:16

Cora's parents, she learned that they were William

20:18

Benton Birks, born 1866, and

20:20

Laura Ellen Birks, born 1872. This

20:23

is a quote from a journal article Ms. Wyatt

20:26

co-wrote about the case for the Journal of Forensic

20:28

Sciences. Quote, the couple were

20:30

double second cousins twice removed to

20:32

each other through their shared ancestor,

20:34

David Birks, the son of William Birks, born

20:37

1743, the common

20:39

ancestor of genetic network number one, end

20:41

quote. Double second

20:43

cousins share not one, but two

20:45

pairs of great grandparents. Second

20:47

cousins typically share just one. Here

20:50

was the tangible impact of the pedigree

20:52

collapse I mentioned earlier. So

20:55

the triangulation between the Kimsey branch and the

20:57

Birks branch happened with the marriage of Edward

20:59

and Gladys Kimsey, which took place in 1938.

21:01

So Ms. Wyatt knew that John

21:03

Doe was almost

21:05

certainly a descendant from this union. Edward

21:08

and Gladys had two sons, both of whom were

21:10

still alive in the year that the

21:12

Marshall County, Alabama John Doe was discovered 1997. So

21:16

Ms. Wyatt turned to those sons,

21:18

sons, ie the grandsons of Gladys

21:20

and Edward. And that's when she

21:22

figured it out. One grandson was

21:24

M.I.A. Jeffrey Kimsey, born on February 7th,

21:27

1977, in

21:29

Santa Barbara, California, the parents, Monty

21:31

Kimsey and Bonnie Kimsey. He

21:34

lived in San Marcos, California, and would have

21:36

been 20 years old when Marshall County

21:38

John Doe was discovered. Ms.

21:41

Wyatt's August 2022 report to the

21:43

Marshall County Sheriff's Office pointed the

21:45

investigators toward a person in Madison,

21:47

Tennessee, whom she suspected was a

21:49

close relative of John Doe, theorized

21:51

to be Jeffrey Kimsey. Madison

21:54

is in driving distance of Marshall

21:56

County and on September 2nd, Marshall

21:58

County investigator Willie Orr contacted this

22:00

relative and the relative put him in

22:02

touch with Jeffrey's parents who are alive

22:04

and living in California. Investigator

22:07

Orr made contact with a Detective

22:09

Adam Alegoria at the Santa Barbara

22:11

County Sheriff's Office. Detective

22:14

Alegoria went to the address listed for

22:16

the suspected parents of Jeffrey Kimsey and

22:18

obtained DNA samples. Kinship

22:20

testing of both parents by the State

22:22

Forensic Lab proved that their son Jeffrey

22:25

Kimsey was the Marshall County John Doe.

22:28

So what do we know about Jeffrey? Not

22:30

very much. His family has been

22:33

in regular contact with the Marshall County

22:35

investigators but has not spoken publicly. Although

22:37

he left his family at some point, they

22:40

never filed a missing person's report for him.

22:42

They believed he was a voluntary missing and

22:44

that he was out there living his life. The

22:47

sheriff described their reaction at learning of

22:49

his demise 26 years earlier as distraught.

22:52

Jeffrey's grandmother's 2011 obituary

22:54

listed him as a living relative but

22:56

unlike all the other relatives there was

22:59

no location listed for Jeffrey illustrating

23:01

that his family believed he was alive, whereabouts

23:04

unknown. When his body was

23:06

found 2,000 miles from home in Union Grove

23:08

in 1997 he had recently turned 20 years old. We

23:10

know that

23:13

Jeffrey resembled the phenotype prepared by Parabon.

23:16

San Marcos High School yearbook photos from 1993, 1994, and 1995

23:18

show that he had a prominent chin

23:23

and blue eyes. In

23:26

a May 2023 press conference, Sheriff

23:29

Sims described the case and difficulties

23:31

associated with identifying Jeffrey because of

23:33

the removed body parts and deliberate

23:35

obscuring of the forensic evidence. Now

23:38

we have an identity that we can backtrack he

23:40

said. That's huge but at the same time it

23:42

just makes us work harder. There

23:45

have been many investigators who have worked on this

23:47

case over the course of many years and some of them

23:49

are with us today. I know they

23:52

would like to see this case solved but

23:54

having a positive identification will help us get

23:56

closer to solving this case. I

23:58

want to thank all the investigators, the people at the Parabon,

24:00

who worked tirelessly on this case,

24:02

the Alabama Department of Forensic Science, Marshall

24:05

County Coroner's Office, Marshall County District

24:07

Attorney's Office, and everyone involved. The

24:11

sheriff went on to acknowledge that they did not know

24:13

how Jeffrey Kimsey got to Alabama, nor

24:15

did they have details on his work history,

24:17

his personal life, his travel. He said, we

24:19

are asking the public who might know Jeffrey

24:21

Kimsey, who he hung out with, his locations,

24:23

and so on. If anyone has any

24:26

information about this case from that time period, please

24:28

call the sheriff's office. Then

24:31

Sheriff Sims ended with an announcement. Quote, today

24:34

we want to announce that we do have

24:36

persons of interest in this case and are

24:38

actively pursuing those leads. Also, we will be

24:40

working with Parabon on DNA that we have

24:42

recently become aware of related to items found

24:45

at the scene. End quote. Reading

24:48

between the lines, it sounds like they

24:50

used advanced DNA extraction technology, perhaps the

24:52

EMVEC, to obtain DNA off Kimsey's clothing,

24:55

the ropes, the air fresheners, or something

24:57

else. They intend to use

24:59

it in hopes of finding a suspect's matching DNA.

25:02

They sound hopeful that Kimsey's case will be

25:04

solved. Marshall County

25:06

District Attorney Jennifer Bray also spoke at the

25:08

press conference. She said, we hope

25:11

that the public comes forward with more information. We

25:13

are eager to hold accountable the person that's

25:16

responsible for the homicide of this person. Investigators

25:19

are now asking anyone who may have known

25:21

Jeffrey Kimsey to contact the sheriff's office

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