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Discover Bank member FDIC. Hey,

3:18

hey, hey everybody. My name is

3:20

Doug and I love movies. This

3:23

is Doug Loves Movies recording on

3:25

Sunday morning, March 3rd, 2024. And

3:27

my guest today, our joke

3:29

was all

3:33

of Sam Levine and Jeff Wadlow.

3:36

Happy New Year, guys. You

3:42

murdered Larry David with that. Let's

3:46

meet them individually and

3:49

alphabetically by first name.

3:51

It's his first time

3:53

on the show. He's the

3:55

director of imaginary in theaters.

3:57

March 8th is Jeff Wadlow.

3:59

Hello. Hey, Jeff. What's

4:01

up, Doug? How are you? I'm

4:04

good. How are you doing? I'm doing

4:06

very well. It was a busy week.

4:08

We had a premiere. It was my birthday yesterday. So

4:12

I'm beyond excited to be here on

4:14

this Sunday morning. Thank you for having

4:16

me. Nothing like

4:18

an obligation like this

4:22

after a big few days really brings you

4:24

back to center. Not an

4:26

obligation. Thrilled to be here, please. I

4:30

mean, you're obligated to say that you said yes

4:32

before you knew how much fun you were going

4:34

to have on your birthday. Exactly. Exactly.

4:39

But I'm excited to see your movie.

4:41

So could you tell

4:43

us about it, Doug? Yeah,

4:45

absolutely. I love

4:48

the Grease reference. Thank you. It's

4:51

my third movie with Blumhouse. It's

4:54

sort of a bonkers, scary, fun movie.

4:56

I don't like horror movies that are

4:59

kind of dirges. I certainly enjoy watching them,

5:01

but I don't like making them. So my

5:03

movies always have some humor to

5:05

them. And I think imaginary is no

5:08

different. It's a lot of fun. There's

5:10

characters that you're going to love,

5:12

and it's super scary. I

5:15

mean, everything works for me, including

5:18

the TV ads where your name

5:20

comes up at the end so big.

5:24

Really? It's really impressive. Some

5:26

of them screaming, Jeff Wadlow!

5:29

Well, they owed it to me because my

5:31

first two movies were called Blumhouse's Truth or

5:33

Dare and Blumhouse's Fantasy Island. And I told

5:35

Jason Blum, I was starting to get concerned

5:38

that if I ever had a child, he

5:40

was going to want to name it Blumhouse's

5:42

Wadlow. Blumhouse's

5:46

baby boy. Well,

5:49

that's good on you. It is nice

5:51

to get your name out there more. And

5:56

I have to say also that I'm a

5:59

big fan of... kick-ass

6:01

too. Why thank

6:03

you you're one of

6:05

the three people who feel that way. I

6:09

mean it

6:11

was such an interesting experience that

6:13

movie because of it's strange when

6:16

one of the stars like has

6:18

negative or weird things to say and I thought

6:22

Jim Carrey was so good in that movie I

6:24

mean he's always great but he's so good in

6:26

it you know arguably the

6:28

best thing in that movie and then he

6:30

you know how'd you feel when he came

6:32

out and was like I've decided I think

6:34

the movie is too violent. Here's

6:36

the thing about Jim Carrey we love him

6:38

because we never know what he's going to

6:41

do or say and I'm here to tell

6:43

you in real life you never know what

6:45

he's going to do. Right because

6:47

he's like so so much of a like a

6:49

philosopher and he just sort of comes up with

6:51

these things. Well yeah I mean all kidding

6:54

aside he is a great guy and his

6:56

heart is in the right place. It was

6:58

just unfortunate that you know he

7:00

was starting to really think about

7:02

those things at a time when

7:05

we were just trying to market

7:07

a ridiculous satirical action movie. So

7:09

violent I mean I really I

7:11

do really enjoy it so thank

7:13

you for that and thank you

7:15

for being here. Also joining us

7:18

today is our returning champ from

7:20

the previous episode Joe Quizala. Hey

7:22

Joe. Hey Doug thanks for having

7:24

me happy to be back here

7:26

to defend my crown. It might

7:28

you know be a short reign but

7:30

has it felt good being a champion

7:33

for three days? I have I have purchased

7:35

the throne. I have been eating

7:37

the new toilet. Yeah that's what

7:40

I mean. It is gold though.

7:42

It is solid gold. Yeah

7:45

yeah I can't I can't even tell you

7:47

it's been the best I don't know what

7:49

two days? Yeah it's been brief because we

7:51

you know we do a bonus episode that

7:53

gets wedged in in between the weekly ones

7:56

at the end of each month so that's what

7:58

you are the benefactor of that and I'm appreciate

8:00

that you're able to come back

8:02

a few days later because I brought in

8:08

everybody's favorite ringer so

8:13

give it up Johnny Knoxville though

8:15

what Johnny Knoxville no

8:19

not the ringer just

8:21

ringer Sam the man Levine how's it

8:23

going Sam? It's going very well today

8:26

Doug thank you so much for getting

8:28

me up this early on a Sunday

8:30

I know my

8:33

neighbors appreciate it just

8:36

because you know they they've sent over a

8:38

lot of police to do well-being checks there's

8:40

not a lot of movement coming from my

8:42

home often on Sundays so they're

8:45

grateful they don't have to make any unnecessary

8:47

phone calls because they just hear you in

8:49

your home shouting into

8:52

a device yes

8:54

screaming the answers to movie

8:56

trivia questions I

8:59

want to remind everybody that's listening that Sam

9:01

is spelled with two M's because when people

9:03

come at me you know to tell me

9:05

things about Sam they often

9:08

overlooked that and an easy way to remember

9:10

it is it Sam

9:12

with two M's because he's

9:14

mmm good at

9:19

trivia all right so no

9:22

further questions except for this

9:25

next one it's time to visit

9:28

recommendation nation and that's where I

9:30

asked each of my guests to

9:32

recommend one movie so let's

9:35

start with Joe what have

9:37

you got for us today

9:39

to recommend yeah so I just

9:43

had recommended a movie a few days ago

9:45

but you know what yeah I will I've

9:47

got one I I've

9:50

seen some movies I you

9:53

know I had never seen the movie

9:56

matchstick men and

9:58

I finally watched it recently And I

10:01

was I had I

10:03

didn't know what to expect and I thought

10:05

it was really great specifically I thought it

10:07

was a perfect Nick Cage performance. I thought

10:09

his character was the

10:12

perfect vessel for the kind of weird

10:14

ticks and Blurishes

10:17

you want to see from Nick Cage when he

10:19

acts Yeah,

10:22

and Sam Rockwell is

10:24

always fun to see. Mm-hmm. And and

10:27

Yeah, I I'm with you on that one. I

10:31

I think that's a good one and certainly

10:34

somewhat Overlooked, you

10:36

know underrated people like to say

10:38

in a Ridley Scott movie.

10:40

Nevertheless. I mean the guy Rarely

10:43

drops the ball in my opinion Right.

10:47

He did it's uh, you know, it's like a

10:49

small small ish for for Ridley I don't know

10:51

when I think of Ridley I I know he

10:53

does a lot of different types of movies But

10:56

I associate him with kind of a grander, you

10:58

know gladiator type movie or you know,

11:00

the Martian Yeah, nothing that yeah, but this is

11:02

a this is a smaller movie and it's still

11:04

really great I mean at the

11:06

very least you want Nick and Sam to

11:08

you know, drive off into

11:10

the Grand Canyon in a convertible Of

11:13

course, no spoilers, but maybe you're forgetting

11:15

the scene where the alien pops out

11:17

of Bruce Altman's chest Feel

11:21

like you're overlooking that What

11:24

do you think Sam what's a movie that

11:27

you would like to recommend for you know

11:29

It's it's very early on a Sunday, especially

11:31

for me as I mentioned So I'm gonna

11:33

lean towards more family friendly fare and

11:36

I recently was rethinking of March of

11:39

the Penguins Do

11:45

you remember that movie that was a great documentary

11:47

we all Collectively loved it as

11:49

a people and you know what else I loved

11:51

about it. It's like an hour and 20 minutes

11:53

It's a yeah watch in and

11:55

out. No big a hurt. No, absolutely.

11:58

Yeah, but they're rated by Morgan

12:00

Freeman the great Morgan Freeman indeed oh you

12:02

know you think of penguins you think of

12:04

him and dolphins

12:09

and Sam I know you know

12:11

a lot of trivia so please

12:13

tell me because I can't remember

12:15

it now didn't

12:18

wasn't there a Bob Saget yeah there

12:20

was a part of the thing it

12:22

was far so the penguins yeah

12:25

I never thought but

12:30

I love the idea of it does

12:34

he do like is it him doing like

12:36

like he did on America's funny some videos

12:38

like doing the voices of the

12:40

penguins being silly believe it or not it's not

12:43

just it's it's so many different people

12:45

doing it a huge cast is ever

12:47

because I think Sam Yerkes narrates the

12:50

movie yeah I think it plays one

12:52

of the penguins yeah

12:54

and I mean I think like half

12:56

of the full house cast does voices

12:58

of penguins and

13:02

I feel like there's definitely other big names

13:04

in there I heard

13:07

that Alanis Morris that blew a penguin

13:09

in a movie wouldn't that be ironic

13:18

all right yeah Martin a penguin I

13:23

mean it's certainly a like you said

13:26

family-friendly but also just

13:30

I assume there's not do

13:32

penguins die in it or anything

13:34

I don't remember any penguins dying

13:36

it's mostly about them finding you

13:38

know mates and reward you

13:40

the long walk right yeah yeah

13:43

even King Long Walk that's

13:46

it yeah penguin parade okay

13:48

so Jeff and

13:50

we got match six men and March of

13:52

the penguins so far is there something that

13:54

you would like to yeah

13:57

I'm gonna go with something a little more

13:59

recent I mean, I feel like all these

14:01

Academy Award contenders just get barely

14:04

any notice sometimes because they're coming so fast

14:06

and furiously. By the way, that's not an

14:08

Academy Award contender. And

14:12

I kind of miss this one in theaters and I

14:14

just watched it on streaming the other day and I

14:16

was really floored by how fantastic

14:18

it was. I'm going to recommend the Iron Claw with

14:20

Zac Efron. I thought it was a really great movie.

14:23

That, and this came out, I think

14:26

it's come up as the recommendation three

14:28

or four times on this show because

14:31

those that do see it are

14:33

quite moved and entertained by it.

14:35

I certainly liked it a lot.

14:37

I just feel like, I think

14:41

there should have been some Academy

14:44

Award stuff with that movie,

14:46

but it came out so late

14:48

in the year and didn't have

14:50

that exact right push. It sucks

14:52

that there's like timing and politics

14:54

come into the award thing so

14:56

much. Yeah. And also this,

14:58

the alchemy of the different elements

15:00

and how they appear in a marketing

15:03

campaign. I think when you see

15:05

wrestling and Zac Efron, you don't make

15:07

award season film necessarily. But

15:10

it's really, it's an incredible story. It's actually,

15:12

it's obviously based on this true story. I

15:14

tried to get the rights to the story about

15:16

10 years ago when it was a Texas monthly

15:19

article. They're really just a tragic, almost

15:21

Shakespearean story of this wrestling dynastic

15:24

family. I couldn't recommend it highly

15:26

enough. And Zac is fantastic

15:28

in it. I mean, he gives a

15:30

very subtle performance for a wrestler, which

15:32

is hard to believe, right? A subtle

15:34

performance for a wrestler, but it is

15:36

one. Yeah. And he's a

15:38

charismatic guy. I mean, that's his whole thing.

15:41

And so to play somebody that's just kind

15:43

of a not dumb, but just, you know,

15:45

I don't

15:48

know what, even what word to use

15:50

to describe, he's just very quiet stoic.

15:53

Yeah. But then, but then just

15:55

an amazing, like the body transformation that he

15:57

made is insane. It's insane. I mean I

15:59

would the expression still waters run deep kind

16:01

of come up for him in that one

16:03

and Jeremy Alan White from the Bear is

16:05

in it too and he does an amazing

16:07

job. I Yeah, I just

16:09

I can't fault any of it

16:11

other than it being a tremendous

16:14

bummer You

16:16

know like it could be

16:18

really sad it's so it's like Brian

16:20

song almost like and and then They

16:23

this is how sad the actual story

16:25

is they eliminated a brother from the

16:27

story entirely because we wouldn't have been

16:30

able to Take yet another death in

16:32

that movie Yeah spoilers

16:36

You know this is all based on a true thing right?

16:38

I mean I know Boiler

16:41

for the family do that really spoil things? Yeah

16:45

Really tell the family how

16:47

do you tell the family you're eliminating a brother? I

16:49

mean my god I would not want to be very

16:52

big for that. Yeah, I feel like they had a

16:54

lot of practice Well, you know, they

16:56

only had to talk to the one surviving The

17:00

only had to run it by one guy but

17:04

But you know, I saw him out, you know

17:07

promoting the movie too So I think he's happy

17:09

with you know, the result, you know, it's not

17:11

one of those Biopics

17:13

where you know the person's like oh that

17:15

that's full of shit that didn't happen Yeah,

17:18

but anyway, I won't watch your Marx

17:20

Brothers biopic without gum. Oh, I won't

17:22

do it Justice

17:26

for gum Oh Getting

17:30

also gum of course is filled

17:32

with two M's so Everybody

17:38

Thanks for your recommendation and we got

17:40

to take a break but we're gonna

17:42

play some games after these messages We

17:45

are back and the first game we're

17:47

gonna play today is Something

17:51

that I call imagine

17:53

this In

17:55

honor of imaginary in theory in

18:01

theaters only, go see in a theater. This

18:04

is a game about

18:06

imaginary characters in movies.

18:10

Jeff is gonna be up first. I

18:12

will name an actor, Jeff, and

18:15

then you can name

18:17

the movie in which that actor

18:19

has an imaginary friend. And

18:22

if you do that successfully, I'll give you a

18:24

point. And then you can also

18:26

name the imaginary

18:29

friend for another

18:31

point. If you miss or

18:33

don't know either of them, then it

18:35

goes to Joe, who also has a

18:37

chance for two points. If Joe

18:39

misses one or both, whatever's left

18:41

goes to Sam. And

18:44

whenever each

18:46

round is done, the next person

18:48

in order gets to

18:50

go first in the next round. Questions?

18:54

Does that make sense? I

18:56

think so. Perfect. Yeah,

18:58

I think I got it. Okay. All

19:01

right, Jeff, this is the first one. Tell

19:05

me if you know the name of

19:07

the imaginary character or

19:11

the name of the movie or both

19:14

that featured Haley Joel

19:16

Osment. I

19:19

believe the film is The Sixth Sense. And

19:21

the imaginary character is

19:23

portrayed by Mr. Bruce Willis, who

19:26

is a doctor. I'm having a

19:28

hard time coming up with the

19:30

character name. I don't think

19:32

anybody knows his name is in

19:34

that movie. Like Dr. Steven Welby.

19:40

He's just a doctor

19:42

person. But unfortunately, Jeff,

19:45

amazing guest, but you

19:48

know, what's

19:50

his name? Jeff Willis. I mean,

19:52

Jeff Willis. Bruce Willis, of course, was

19:55

dead. He

20:00

was you know, he was real wasn't he

20:02

wasn't imagining anything. It was it

20:04

was real But it depends on your reading of

20:06

the film Doug. Yes, I can

20:08

it really does But also

20:11

that was you know, that was a

20:13

intentional mislead I

20:15

thought someone would guess that movie with Haley

20:18

Joel Osment, but Joe What

20:21

does that leave you with? Can you think

20:23

of a movie where Haley Joel Osment has

20:25

an imaginary friend? That's a good question. It

20:27

also makes me consider how many Haley

20:29

Joel Osment movies do I know? And

20:33

so I'll just I haven't

20:35

seen it, but I'll just guess maybe he has an

20:37

imaginary friend in the movie pay it forward. Oh That

20:41

would be a twist But

20:45

no no bad friends, I

20:47

mean maybe he did but that's not the movie

20:49

I'm looking for Sam um,

20:53

I Mean

20:55

nothing is jumping into my

20:58

brain beyond the obvious one. This

21:00

blew my mind this situation There's

21:02

obvious ones. Well the obvious

21:04

one that we let off with oh and

21:06

by the way Malcolm Crow,

21:08

I think Oh Wow is

21:12

Is Willis's character in that movie? I think

21:16

and anyway any points for that. That's quite. All

21:18

right. I honestly I Can't

21:22

think of them. Yeah, so let's just say I Don't

21:27

know he's I believe he's a voice in the

21:29

country bears movie. So how about that country bears?

21:31

They're all imaginary Nobody's

21:35

real. Okay. This is

21:38

gonna I gotta see this movie Because

21:41

I was very not

21:44

aware that this exists a Christian

21:48

Slater movie where he has

21:50

an imaginary friend I

21:55

Mean I I bet he imagined the

21:57

cast of young guns too was his

22:00

friend but I don't think they were.

22:03

Also friend is a weird word. I

22:05

should just say has an imaginary somewhat

22:08

something in their life because friends like

22:10

so many imaginary friends and movies are

22:13

not they're not friends they're

22:15

not friends to you at all. They're you know

22:17

the opposite they're like you

22:19

know. Certainly my movie that's true.

22:23

Yeah. I mean look he

22:25

was in a TV show where I think

22:27

he sort of imagined a split personality but

22:29

I don't think that counts. I'm drawing

22:33

a full blank right now

22:36

on that one. Let's

22:38

go to Joe maybe he thought of it. Not

22:42

you're imagining things. Oh

22:45

boy you know.

22:48

I'm just waiting in the bud. I really am yeah.

22:50

I'm like that

22:52

how many Christian Slater movies have I

22:54

really seen and I'm just gonna say

22:57

one on the off chance that there's

22:59

an imaginary friend you know pushing

23:01

him to do bad things and I'll guess

23:03

true romance. Well

23:07

guess what that

23:09

is correct. Oh wow.

23:11

What? True robot but

23:14

who is his imaginary friend you know

23:16

that Joe? Obviously his name is romance.

23:22

Yeah all right so Sam can

23:25

pick up one more point. With

23:27

pleasure. Yeah his imaginary friend is

23:29

Elvis Presley played by Val Kilmer. Yeah

23:34

he talks to Elvis a few times in that

23:36

movie but again I feel like I

23:39

haven't seen it in a minute but I feel like

23:41

Elvis doesn't give him the best advice. I

23:43

mean have you seen the shirt that Christian Slater

23:45

wears the whole

23:50

movie? He's

23:53

not getting good advice from anybody. All right

23:55

so Joe and Sam are both on the

23:57

board at one point each and we

23:59

go back. to Jeff get to go

24:01

first to this next one. And

24:05

speaking of Jeff, it's Jeff

24:07

Daniels. And

24:10

Jim Carrey is a real in the dumb and

24:12

dumb version. Jeff Daniels in an imaginary movie.

24:21

Oh my god. I felt

24:24

like you were gonna like kill in the game. I

24:26

know. Unless you're gonna unless drop dead Fred is gonna

24:29

be one of the answers coming

24:36

up here. I'm drawing a

24:38

little bit of a blank. Jeff

24:41

Daniels. I

24:45

mean. Yeah.

24:47

That's how I feel about

24:50

it. Yeah. I

24:52

really discovered some stuff in putting

24:54

this game together. Yeah. These are

24:56

some deep cuts. I'm very skeptical

24:58

that you knew any of

25:01

these answers. It's true. Most people have never heard

25:03

of true romance. Okay. Fair enough. Fair enough. Yeah.

25:05

I got nothing. Okay. Joe, I feel

25:07

like I don't want to

25:13

judge you. I'm pretty judged. But I feel like

25:15

you might not know this one either. Yeah. I

25:17

mean, I'm gonna take the same tactic that I

25:19

took last round, which is just to name a

25:22

movie where I think it could be plausible. I

25:24

like it. And you know, you

25:27

might even say having an

25:29

imaginary friend would be something

25:32

wild. It'll

25:34

be so wild. That

25:37

was such a fun

25:39

twist in that movie

25:42

featuring a greatly Ray

25:44

Liotta in one of his one of his scariest

25:46

performances, which is like, you know, what are you

25:48

saying? We're not scary. Okay.

25:52

So no, that's incorrect. Sam,

25:55

can you I don't even know if Sam knows this

25:57

one. You know, it was a surprise to me as

25:59

soon you said Jeff Daniels of course I

26:02

know exactly what film we're talking about Doug it's

26:04

terms of endurance. He's the imaginary friend

26:06

with Deborah Winger and the kids the family the whole thing

26:13

not really because what kind of monster would do that

26:15

you could only do that to your imaginary friend and

26:17

get rid of it so. Yeah

26:19

or maybe like Jack Nicholson's character wasn't

26:21

real. Right for all the interaction they

26:24

had. He had a friend he had

26:26

a imaginary astronaut friend. Yeah.

26:32

I don't know how this movie slipped

26:34

past all of our collective

26:36

radars but when I found this I

26:38

thought this is made up because

26:42

Jeff Daniels has an imaginary

26:45

friend in a movie called

26:47

Paperman and

26:49

the friend is called Captain

26:52

Excellent and

26:54

it's played by Ryan Reynolds. What?

26:59

Oh wait a minute is Paperman the prequel

27:01

to matchstick men? Keep

27:04

them away from each other. Well

27:13

isn't Ryan Reynolds in If?

27:16

Yes. Coming out which I actually wanted

27:19

to ask Jeff that because

27:21

I started seeing the trailer for your movie around the

27:23

same time I started seeing trailers for If and I

27:26

was like I wonder at what

27:28

process these movies knew that imaginary

27:30

friend movies were coming out around the same time. Well

27:33

what's even crazier is they edited their

27:35

movie in the same building on the

27:37

same floor that we edited our movie

27:39

but we were the scrappy little low-budget

27:41

Blumhouse movie. I mean we spent more

27:44

we spent less money on our movie

27:46

than they spent on catering I'm sure.

27:48

So I just kind of kept

27:50

my head down when I would pass Krasinski in the

27:52

hallway. I

27:54

was aware of it kind of about the time our

27:56

movie got greenlit I knew there was a big budget imaginary

27:59

friend movie happening at Paramount that he was

28:02

directing, but I also knew it was totally very different

28:04

than ours. And I was also told

28:06

by my producers that I

28:08

better beat them to the marketplace. Okay.

28:11

Yeah, damn. Yeah. But

28:14

it's kind of like either way, you know,

28:16

it kind of works for both. I think in

28:18

the sense that like you could see one, you

28:20

know, if you see imaginary this weekend, then

28:22

when if comes out, it's like sort of a more

28:25

lighthearted, you know,

28:27

a friendlier take on, you

28:31

know, they're totally very different. We're not talking

28:34

about like, White House Down and

28:36

Olympus is falling here, right? Like these are these

28:38

are very different movies. Ours is a horror movie

28:40

and there's like a like a live action Pixar

28:43

vibe. But we do a fun thing on social

28:45

media where we took their their graphics and their

28:47

music and we use our footage and we cut

28:49

a trailer. That's

28:53

really good. I love that.

28:55

That's great. All right. So we

28:57

still got Joe with one point Sam with one

29:00

point and Jeff, you're up first

29:02

again. Oh my

29:04

god. I'm so embarrassed. How do I

29:06

draw such a low number

29:09

in this game every round? The

29:15

actor in question told me the

29:17

movie and who their imaginary friend

29:19

was Roman Griffin

29:22

Davis. Griffin

29:27

Davis. Yeah. Do you know who that is?

29:30

No. Can you give me a clue? He's

29:33

got three names. He's

29:36

not an assassin. Oh,

29:39

Roman Griffin Davis. Yeah.

29:44

I have no idea who this actor is.

29:46

I'm going

29:48

to guess I

29:51

got nothing. I think he's probably a partner

29:53

in a law firm or he's in

29:56

his own right. I got it. All

29:58

right, Joe. So my

30:02

train of thought here is that this must

30:04

be a kid actor if he's the lead.

30:06

And we're talking about imaginary friends. And

30:09

so I'm going to guess that

30:12

actually, I was, ah,

30:15

damn it. I think I know who the kid actor is in

30:17

the movie. I was like, oh, you don't know. I'm just going

30:19

to guess little

30:21

monsters anyway, but I'm pretty sure that's Fred Savage. Uh,

30:26

incorrect and correct both at the same time.

30:28

Yeah. Uh, yeah, that's not what I'm

30:30

looking for, Sam. Um,

30:33

and Jeff, I'm sorry for what you're about to

30:35

hear. What's

30:37

going to happen? Is

30:40

this some incredible punk thing where

30:42

you're going to play? How dare you

30:45

just presume, how dare you presume

30:47

that I went to a screening of

30:50

this film a few years ago that the entire

30:52

cast attended. And I got

30:54

to watch this young man hug it

30:56

out with Archie Yates. That is Jojo

30:58

Rabbit. Oh, right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

31:01

And their imaginary friend was DeFure.

31:10

Do you think they would accept that on

31:12

like Jeopardy instead of Hitler? You

31:14

know what? Ken is very generous with

31:17

what he'll accept. So yes, I think

31:19

I can say first name, please. Um,

31:23

so yeah, sorry, Jeff. You, it was,

31:25

I was, you know, laughing in my

31:28

head when you brought up, uh, Jojo

31:30

Rabbit, uh, earlier in the conversation. Uh,

31:33

yeah, I usually go for silent laughter, laughter in

31:35

the head. I feel like I really won. But

31:38

I was so happy that you, you know, you were going

31:40

to get to go first on that one, but I also

31:42

thought, Roman, Griffin Davis, I don't

31:44

know if that name stuck with anybody.

31:49

Although I applaud you, Jo, for knowing it was a

31:51

kid actor. That was, that was some good, uh, it

31:53

didn't really help me, but. Yeah. Excellent.

31:56

All right. So we're back to you, Jeff. which

32:01

is, this is the last one.

32:04

I think they are getting easier, Doug. And

32:09

the person that the

32:11

actor involved

32:13

in this imaginary

32:15

friend, Sitch, is Danny

32:18

Lloyd. Danny

32:23

Lloyd. Right

32:32

now, I'm just trying to think of other

32:34

imaginary friend movies. Couldn't

32:38

ask me a question about my own movie. That would have

32:40

been a real softball. Yeah, Doug,

32:42

that's usually your MO. What's up?

32:44

You'd be surprised. You'd be surprised

32:46

how often people miss on things

32:48

about their own works. I'm

32:51

gonna have to start a podcast called Jeff

32:54

Hates Doug. I'm

32:57

doing so poorly on this. I

33:00

got nothing. You're gonna kill this next

33:02

game, I'm sure. But in this

33:04

game. I can't do much worse. Yeah.

33:08

Joe? I have no idea.

33:11

I don't know who Danny Lloyd is. I'm assuming we've

33:13

got another kid, but he's not

33:15

Jake Lloyd. Of course, that would be, I

33:17

don't know. Or just Jar Jar? Jar

33:20

Jar is imaginary. That would solve a lot of

33:23

people's issues. They kind of tried to act like

33:25

he was imaginary in the following movies. I

33:28

am, just for fun, I'll come up

33:30

with a fake title and say,

33:34

my super imaginary friend

33:36

girlfriend. That'd be

33:38

fun if I had a title that was that. Just

33:41

had it right there in the title, but no. Sam?

33:47

Well, Danny.

33:50

Guys, Danny Lloyd is Danny in The

33:53

Shining. That's right. What

33:56

is his imaginary friend's name? Well,

33:58

that's the thing that I- I'm having trouble with

34:01

red room. I

34:04

can't I remember. No, he really does and that it makes

34:10

me laugh every time because it's just so you

34:12

know it's like when people give a dog like

34:14

last night on my show I said what's your

34:16

dog's name to a guy in the audience and

34:18

he goes Edna. That's like come on. Old lady

34:20

name to a dog but it's

34:25

just funny that is imaginary friend it's first of

34:27

all it's funny that he's talking to his finger

34:29

like the kid in that movie doesn't really seem

34:31

to be too committing to it I mean

34:33

commits to it but it's just weird and his

34:36

friend's name is Tony. Nickleson's

34:39

character also have an imaginary

34:41

friend Lloyd the bartender. Oh

34:49

yeah Lloyd the bartender oh wow I

34:51

mean the signing if you if

34:54

you go along with it there's like

34:56

documentaries and you know so

34:58

much writing about all these weird things that

35:00

were supposedly going on with that movie but

35:02

I never put together that the bartender's

35:04

last name her first name was the

35:07

same as the kid

35:09

playing Danny. Alright so

35:12

congratulations to Sam for winning that

35:14

one and Jeff

35:17

if we had gone to a

35:19

tiebreaker the name I was gonna

35:21

say is Rick Mayall who

35:24

of course was dropped dead friend so

35:26

you you were good at pre-guessing and

35:28

then you know not

35:30

working out. The worry of my life. Yeah

35:32

but this next game all three of you

35:37

are gonna have answers every time there's not

35:39

gonna be any I don't knows but

35:41

how well you do with your answers

35:44

we'll have to wait and see and

35:46

we'll do that right after these words

35:50

we're back and Sam gets to

35:52

go first in a

35:55

little game that I call

35:57

the little search engine that could.

36:00

boy. Sam loved it. No,

36:02

it was so hit or

36:04

miss. I

36:06

typed a word into the

36:09

IMDB search engine. And then

36:11

I wrote down the top

36:13

15 movies. Oh, wow. 15

36:16

a. Yeah, listed by an

36:18

IMDB with that word in

36:22

the title. So what do they list

36:24

them in? What order do they list them in? Is there any

36:26

rhyme or reasons that? Yeah, it's

36:28

there. You know, weird ass IMDB

36:30

algorithm got it that is based

36:32

on I assume it's based on

36:35

searches. It's definitely a current like

36:40

very up to date popular like I looked

36:42

at it like probably like yesterday. So you'll

36:45

each take

36:48

turns naming movies, you'll each get to

36:50

do three, but it'll you know, you'll

36:52

take turns doing it. And the higher

36:54

the movie is on the list, if

36:57

it's on the list, the more points you

36:59

get. And it's

37:04

literally a little game today, because the

37:06

word is little movies

37:09

with the word little so don't

37:11

don't pre guess anything just definitely

37:13

wait for your turn. And

37:17

so we start with Sam, and then then we

37:19

switch the order around. So we go to Joe,

37:22

and then to Jeff. And like I said, you'll

37:24

each get three guesses. But Sam gets

37:26

to guess first, he gets number one, that's worth

37:28

15 points. If

37:30

he gets number 15, it's only

37:32

worth one point. So there'd be

37:35

plenty opportunity for everybody to surpass

37:37

him. Sam, yes.

37:40

What and it's not it's never

37:42

little. Oh, yeah. Always

37:48

the word little. Thank you very

37:50

much for the clarity. And

37:53

it's sometimes it's the first word in

37:55

the title, sometimes it's a second and

37:57

sometimes it's a even further. their back

38:00

in the title. But

38:02

it's all of them have the

38:04

word little Sam. What's

38:07

your favorite little movie? Well, my

38:09

favorite. And I'm debating whether

38:11

to give you or not.

38:14

So I am I'm torn between two. And

38:16

I'm going to my wife would

38:19

be happier with me if I said

38:22

what I know is her favorite film of that

38:24

year, Little Women. Okay,

38:27

so we already came to

38:30

an interesting crossroads. Oh, I'm

38:33

referring to the more recent year,

38:35

it's 2019 2019 and not 1994.

38:38

Yeah. Well,

38:42

Sam, that is

38:44

the number one movie. So Sam,

38:46

out of the gate

38:51

have 15 points. Oh,

38:54

wow. Anybody who knows

38:56

math knows that there's still

38:58

70 points

39:01

available. There's so many

39:03

points, give or take.

39:05

Joe, name a

39:07

movie that has little in the title that you

39:09

think is popular in a

39:12

search engine today. Yeah,

39:14

I can I can think of a few

39:17

that have little in them. I don't know

39:19

about their popularity, though. And

39:21

that is our that is our issue. I'm

39:26

going to go with

39:28

the other Little Women.

39:31

Let's get it out of there. Knock

39:33

it out. I

39:40

can think of so many. So many. Yeah,

39:42

I need to hold the one that was already

39:44

dated. I need to keep some of the holster.

39:46

You know, I can't it's been said, I feel

39:49

strategically that's maybe a wise move. We'll see. Yeah,

39:52

and you know, some game makers would

39:54

maybe not have the same title come

39:56

up twice in the same game, but

39:58

different years and That's not my

40:01

that's not how I operate. So yes

40:03

a little women from 1994 is On

40:08

the list and it is number eight.

40:10

All right, I'll take it interesting That's

40:12

lower than I thought yeah, isn't

40:14

it weird? Like also if it's a search engine

40:17

wouldn't the words little women like why would it

40:19

inside which one to pull up? I guess it

40:21

would look like so guys I

40:23

would be based on popularity who's searching that one

40:26

Yes, that's why little women from 1994

40:28

is getting action, but it's

40:30

down at At number

40:32

eight. So Joe's on the board with eight and

40:35

we go to Jeff with his

40:37

first guess well,

40:39

I This

40:42

is the first thing I thought of and I would have been

40:45

pretty confident that would have been number one on the list

40:49

The Little Mermaid. Oh Wow,

40:52

okay. We do have another situation here. Oh again.

40:54

Oh, yeah, we do Yeah,

40:56

and I think I'm gonna put it's too

40:58

bad It's already come up because I would

41:00

have petitioned that I that that Sam should have

41:02

gotten all the points for both versions Oh,

41:05

oh wow, and but Joe was too

41:07

wily for me to make that argument

41:11

So if I got a pic, I mean

41:13

it's based on kind of current popularity. I

41:19

Feel like Go

41:21

with the You Being

41:25

higher right now 2322

41:32

came out recently 23 23 is less. Yeah, it was 23 and

41:34

of course is on the list and it is at number five

41:44

Worth a whopping 11 points.

41:47

Everybody is in this

41:50

Anybody can win Sam Levine Well,

41:54

what's the next little move this is

41:56

the other one I was torn between and I'm a

41:58

little surprised nobody said it And now I'm

42:00

second guessing myself and thinking maybe it's not high

42:03

on the list at all because the other guys

42:05

did not think of it. But just

42:07

in case, I will say little children.

42:12

It's never a bad idea to

42:14

bring up little children, especially if

42:16

you like Jackie

42:19

Earl creepy. I

42:21

do like Jackie Earl creepy. He's

42:25

my favorite of the creepy family. The

42:27

swimming pool scene is upsetting. And

42:31

the movie obviously got there to

42:33

people's brains and they're still looking

42:35

it up in 2006 because it

42:37

is number four on the list.

42:39

Oh wow. I'm surprised that that

42:41

height. Give me two. So

42:46

something about it must maybe people are looking

42:48

it up. Who was the lead in that

42:50

Kate Winslet? Kate Winslet, Patrick Wilson. No,

42:54

I am Rick was in it, right? Oh yeah. Yeah.

43:00

So yeah, so that people have reasons, I guess, for looking

43:02

it up. Was that

43:04

Cod Field's first movie after In the Bedroom?

43:07

Yeah, it was. Yeah, he's like take his time. He's

43:10

totally made free, right? Yeah,

43:12

I believe so. Yeah. Okay,

43:17

Joe. Well, you

43:19

know, to commit to

43:21

the bit. I

43:24

think I'm going to have to take the other little mermaid.

43:26

Oh my gosh. I

43:28

have to. It's

43:31

just I don't know. I have to. I

43:34

feel like I have no other choice. The 1989 little. I

43:37

do like Jackie Earl creepy. He's

43:41

my favorite of the creepy family. The

43:44

swimming pool scene is upsetting. And

43:47

the movie obviously got there to people's

43:49

brains and they're still looking it up

43:51

in 2006 because it is number four

43:53

on the list. Oh wow. Wow.

43:57

I'm surprised that's that high. Give

43:59

it to him. I mean,

44:01

so something about it must maybe

44:03

people are looking it up who

44:05

was the lead in that Kate

44:07

Winslet? Hey, when's the Patrick Wilson?

44:11

No, I am Rick was in it, right? Yeah.

44:13

Oh, yeah. Yeah part of that. Mm-hmm.

44:16

So yeah, so that People

44:19

have reasons I guess we're looking it up with that

44:21

cod fields first movie after in the bedroom Yeah,

44:24

it was yeah, he's a long break

44:26

his time. We made free, right? Yeah,

44:29

I believe so Yeah, our three Okay,

44:33

Joe well, you know

44:35

to commit to the

44:37

bit The

44:53

1989 Little Mermaid is number 13

44:55

on the list. Okay. So

44:57

yeah, so it's only worth three points But

44:59

we have fun. We love

45:01

to have fun here. Yeah Jeff

45:04

what else did you got with the word little in it?

45:07

Again, I can think of a lot but I'm trying

45:09

to think of what it's gonna be the

45:11

most popular on IMDB I

45:18

feel like I'm surprised little

45:20

children was that high because where my brain is

45:22

going is That

45:25

family films tend to be more popular

45:27

like I saw some statistic like You

45:30

know nine out of the ten highest grossing movies

45:32

of all time are technically family films or something

45:34

crazy like that Yeah,

45:37

like yeah, that's

45:39

the one that's not or matrix or something like

45:41

that, but it's still kind of a staggering statistic

45:43

So I'm gonna go with Little

45:47

I think hmm Work

45:49

little The

45:52

reason I say it was so surprised by

45:54

voice is because it didn't make the list.

45:56

Oh Wow Yeah

46:00

No, that is really something. And

46:02

I even looked beyond the top 15, and

46:05

I got to tell you, I don't think

46:07

Stuart Little even made the top 20. This

46:12

is very shocking. It's not

46:14

that shocking when you consider, I guessed it. That's

46:21

what you're here for. So yes,

46:23

excellent work. And

46:26

Sam, of course, is just here

46:28

to make everybody miserable. I

46:31

have zero confidence of anything being on this

46:33

list anymore based on the numbering of things

46:35

and the fact that Stuart Little's not in

46:37

the top 15. But

46:40

I know that you eliminate anything

46:43

that's like a TV series or

46:45

whatever. So surely pretty

46:47

little liars is in there, but you're

46:49

not counting it. So that's crazy to

46:51

me that if you search, little Stuart

46:53

Little's not in the top. I'm presuming

46:55

like 25 overall. No,

46:58

it's weird for sure. That's crazy. I

47:01

don't know. The third one I was thinking of, and

47:04

now again, zero confidence is on the list,

47:06

Little Miss Sunshine. Well,

47:09

why would you think that it's not on the list?

47:12

Because of how low Stuart Little's have been.

47:15

How high Stuart Little's have been. Yeah.

47:19

All right, Sam. Well, I'm sorry to

47:21

say, I feel bad

47:24

telling you how well you're doing. Perfect.

47:26

Thank you. You

47:29

seem so guilty about it. Little

47:31

Miss Sunshine came in at number six. Oh,

47:34

Yve. Wow. Yeah.

47:36

Wow. So yeah, that's another

47:38

10 points. So it feels like you're unreachable

47:40

at this point with 37 points. But

47:46

Joe, there's no way you can catch

47:48

him. Now it's

47:50

just all about just the fun of putting

47:53

some more points on the board. So

47:56

what's your third and final guess, Joe? It's

47:58

also about the fun of... you know,

48:00

being a bit of a troll at

48:03

this game. And I did consider choosing

48:05

Stuart Little too, even though I know

48:07

that would be a very, very unwise

48:10

guess. But

48:12

I think I have a still

48:15

a troll adjacent type move, which is

48:17

I am just going to guess the

48:19

movie that was like

48:21

the reverse big it called

48:23

Little. Well, I always like

48:25

I always like in this

48:27

game how the word

48:30

just the word itself could could be

48:32

a title and that people

48:34

for some reason don't think of

48:36

trying to guess that. And

48:39

in this case, it paid

48:41

off because it's on the list. But

48:43

it's also fairly low on the list. It's

48:45

number 11. But

48:48

for anybody who doesn't know what Little is,

48:50

it was from 2019 and it had Regina

48:52

Hall and Issa Rae in it. And

48:55

that would be the most accurate search

48:57

to find this movie. It

49:00

should be number one. Little,

49:02

Little, Little. It

49:04

might pay off. That's how messed up

49:06

the algorithm is. They're like, nah, just

49:09

because you're looking for Little, we've got 10 other

49:12

things we'd like to show you. We

49:15

got a lot of other little things to show

49:17

you. All right, Jeff, let's

49:20

get you some more points. What's your final

49:22

answer? This

49:25

is the last guess in the game, right? Yeah.

49:28

I mean, because I can think of like, now

49:30

it's just about which one is going to be on the

49:32

list. Because I obviously think of like Little Big Man, Little

49:34

Shop of Horrors, Big

49:38

Trouble in Little China. And

49:42

then there's like old stuff like Little Rascals.

49:44

I'm going to go. Little Big League. I'm

49:49

going to say, Little

49:56

Shop of Horrors. I feel like that's a great

49:58

move. The

50:00

Reading off Broadway right now. The

50:02

So is really good. has been

50:04

running for a few years now

50:06

and doesn't seem like it's gonna

50:08

stop and now it is number

50:10

ten on the list. Little

50:13

soft voice from Nineteen Eighty Six that

50:15

they are the all black and white

50:17

one that does not on hours ago,

50:19

didn't didn't make them even the top

50:22

twenty. but that doesn't mean you put

50:24

six more points on the board says

50:26

very respectable. A second place

50:28

desk as yeah wow week when

50:31

I go to show how sixteen

50:33

and fm was not discuss any

50:35

more. He

50:37

graduated sales and but now

50:39

here's the big reveal where

50:41

I tell you all the

50:43

ones that you've missed. Or.

50:46

As the ones that Jeff rattled

50:49

off their at the end of

50:51

the ssssss and I is also

50:53

a little which wasn't even on

50:55

a D L. W. Weight

50:58

of was I think it was job

51:00

as someone it's a little monsters Earlier

51:02

today we I have. Done

51:04

everything t Nonetheless Rose good thing in

51:07

go back to that well again. And

51:09

oh and Little Big Man just got

51:11

mention. I thought I have your obviously

51:13

classic movie with the word little of

51:15

a title but it's all the way

51:18

down at Number Twenty and.org At one

51:20

point you said little things which I

51:22

believe is also a movie. It

51:25

is is a movie called the Little Saying Nice.

51:29

And that would have been

51:31

a terrific thing to guess

51:33

because it was number three

51:35

on the lives around that.

51:37

Yeah, Denzel Romney, Malik, Jared

51:39

Loughner Leno in Riyadh. It

51:41

was a streaming play during

51:43

the Pandemic. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

51:45

Demonstrate to. Apple

51:48

or some shit early on. Memorable

51:50

title in my kids. It's nice.

51:52

Yeah, yeah, you know, darker. Think

51:54

about. Years ago, little movies but. One

51:57

that you would. I. Think. Maybe.

52:00

In at least one of your heads I

52:02

would hope because it's one of the most

52:04

ridiculous titles of all time. And number Fifteen

52:06

of Little Fockers. Know. Where

52:08

it could do not answer. it's the night and

52:10

I could have guessed movies with little for an

52:12

hour with you So yeah for that would give a

52:15

hoot. I just

52:17

maybe I just like that title. too much

52:19

of a dead upper fourteen the way his

52:21

brothers classic little man. you don't have horses

52:23

in of his early in the whole center

52:25

and I'm going to go at it either.

52:28

A dog or twelve also

52:30

reference but not a specific guess

52:32

the Ninety Four version of

52:34

The Little Rascals. Would

52:38

you take Stuart Little would hold

52:40

up way more than that. The

52:42

battle really they'll be there is

52:44

about Little Rat. That Little Rascals

52:46

Release of Debris Nine, The Adam

52:48

Sandler Classic Little Ditty Or yes,

52:51

About every day then a movie that

52:53

I have to watch again. And it's

52:56

funny that a Job and Messner today

52:58

because we talked about on the last

53:00

episode with Joe Romm Little Little Giant.

53:04

Seems so I assume so hi to

53:06

me so I get it occurred to

53:08

me even other now know there's no

53:10

easy. I got a bombed from us

53:12

talking about it every like what is

53:14

that movie the here? wait a second

53:16

Beckett be real I don't know, wouldn't

53:18

listen yeah I got a watches again

53:20

of I really I've I've become I've

53:22

always been a net O'neill family become

53:24

an even bigger ones and so modern

53:26

family and I feel like that and

53:28

Dutch Prior both ah. I

53:31

pray like the more now than I did

53:33

when I was younger. Love him. Laugh! Or.

53:35

Yeah and then ah. So.

53:37

Then we had little children, little things

53:39

and course little women with over one

53:42

and number two on the list. Was.

53:44

One I was confident no one

53:46

would ever guess because it is

53:49

currently in theaters. Ah,

53:52

Saw. In for twenty three I

53:54

guess. A movie called Wicked Little

53:56

Letters. From. As. Yeah.

53:59

Sorry just. Buckley and Olivia Coleman so I

54:01

want to see it. A lost

54:03

daughter reunion. Yeah.

54:07

You see we had from

54:09

lost to little so maybe

54:11

the next move is medium

54:13

or large. Big.

54:17

Congratulations once again Sam

54:19

Levine for winning today

54:21

and we're gonna reconvene

54:24

again the next Sunday morning. Do you

54:26

think you'd be available for that? I

54:29

actually don't think I am. You

54:32

don't think you are? I'm so sorry. No

54:35

that's okay. I'm gonna put you down as a

54:37

maybe and then have you back as soon as

54:39

possible. Okay. As soon as we can. We'll have

54:42

you back on the show. What would you like

54:44

to promote? Do you have anything you'd like to

54:46

plug? You know how

54:50

about finding me on Cameo? You

54:52

know? I love it. There's been a lot of requests

54:54

lately and I've been having a lot of fun with

54:56

them and you

54:59

know it doesn't have to just be birthdays

55:01

or anniversaries. I'm also happy to help break

55:03

bad news. We know the drill

55:05

Sam. You know the drill? You'll do anything. I'll

55:07

do something. Yeah. Oh no I'll tell someone off

55:09

for you. I've done that a couple times. Yeah.

55:12

Tell me what you want me to say and as long

55:14

as you know it's not against my deeply held religious beliefs

55:16

I'll do it. Okay. Yeah.

55:19

I'm gonna order one from you. I think you

55:22

should. It's

55:25

really wild the things people want

55:28

us to say. Those of us who

55:30

do Cameos. It

55:32

really is wild. Yeah. All

55:34

right. Joe Quizala I know your

55:36

run was short but great player

55:38

and I hope to have you

55:41

back again sometime soon. What would

55:43

you like to what would you like to promote? My

55:47

podcast Who Cares About the Rock Hall which is

55:49

about the Rocking Hall of Fame that is back.

55:51

We're talking about all the artists on the newly

55:53

released ballot. You can also watch my stamp special

55:55

on YouTube recommended based on your search history. My

55:58

album Funny Songs and Sketches. is full

56:00

of funny songs and sketches, so you might

56:02

enjoy that. And you can follow

56:04

me at Joe Qua on Instagram and TikTok

56:07

and JoeKJoeK on Twitter. KWA.

56:11

KWA. Yeah.

56:15

Thank you for being a first time

56:17

guest on the show, Jeff. I hope

56:19

you enjoyed the experience. I

56:23

feel abused, and I'm

56:26

going to spend the rest of the day crying in

56:28

the corner. Which

56:31

is, you know, probably maybe the reaction

56:33

some people will have to your frightening

56:35

movie. Imaginary

56:40

in theaters this Friday.

56:42

Probably, in fact,

56:44

I'm sure you can watch it Thursday night, even

56:46

if you live in a city that has movie

56:49

theaters. So definitely

56:52

go check that out. I know I'm

56:54

going to. And anytime you've got something

56:56

or promote or want to come back,

56:58

Jeff, please do hit me up. JEFF

57:01

I really appreciate that, Doug. It's been a lot of

57:03

fun. Your knowledge of

57:05

movie is very impressive. Same

57:07

with your guest, though. Of course, they want to come

57:09

back. DOUG Well, my knowledge is all written down on

57:11

a piece of paper that I'm reading to you. So

57:14

just thought that... JIM Well, Doug,

57:17

stop it. You're very good. DOUG

57:20

Well, I got the plugs, too. Doug

57:22

Loves Movies returns to South by Southwest

57:25

in Austin, Texas at Esther's Follies on

57:27

Monday, March 11th at 4 o'clock. And

57:29

you know the drill if you live

57:31

in Austin. If you come down, bring

57:34

a name tag. Well, very

57:36

good chance we'll let you in, like 90% chance.

57:41

That's on Monday, March

57:44

11th, 4 p.m. in the afternoon.

57:46

So we might have to take a break

57:49

in the show at 4.20 if we step

57:51

outside. Doug Loves

57:53

Movies dot com. We've got

57:55

all of my dates that are coming up,

57:58

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58:00

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58:02

months so take a look at it once

58:04

again thank you to Jeff Wadler, Joe Clark,

58:07

Zalc, and I actually forgot to see imaginary

58:11

C word as always

58:13

oh no oh no there's

58:30

no room in your heart for

58:32

you cuz