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Being a part of a royal family
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might seem enticing, but more often than
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not, it comes at the expense of
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everything else, like your freedom, your privacy,
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and sometimes even your head. Wundery's podcast,
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Even the Royals, pulls back the curtain
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on royal families, past and present, from
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all over the world to show you
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the darker side of what it means
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to be royalty. Henry VIII may be
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most remembered for his cruelty, or perhaps
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his six wives. As the
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old saying goes, divorced, beheaded, died, divorced,
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beheaded, survived. We know them as pawns
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in Henry VIII's hunt for a son,
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but their lives were so much more
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than just being the king's wives. They
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were six vastly different women, smart,
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crafty, and unique, all bound together
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by the doorknob of a person they married.
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You're about to hear a preview of Even
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the Royals, where we dive into Henry VIII's
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first wife, Catherine of Aragon. While you're listening,
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follow Even the Royals wherever you get your
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podcasts. It's June
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of 1525 in the court of Catherine of Aragon
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and Henry VIII. Catherine is in
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the massive great hall of a royal
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palace in the heart of London. She's
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laughing and clapping along as her ladies
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and other nobles dance to the court musicians. Catherine
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welcomes these little bursts of fun, anything
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to distract her from worries. She
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and Henry have been married for 16 years now, and
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what's the matter? She's a very beautiful
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woman. She's a very beautiful woman. She's
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16 years now, and what started out
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as a loving, playful marriage has soured
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over the last few years, mainly
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because Catherine has given birth to six children,
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but only one has survived. Her
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nine-year-old daughter, Mary, which
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talk about traumatic. Oh my God, I
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know. That actually would put a damper
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on any relationship. Yeah, yeah, and especially
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back then when nobody knew anything. And
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here's the thing, like, Catherine is a
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kick-ass queen. She defeated the Scots in
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battle, but apparently that's diddly
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squat compared to the much more important and
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noble duty of pushing out male heirs. Now,
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in theory... Mary, her daughter,
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could inherit the throne, but
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England and Henry aren't fully on board with
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a girl heir. I can't imagine
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why. Or too emotional. Yeah,
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especially when we get our period. There's
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no stopping us. We take that week
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off from ruling. God, I
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wish we could. Me too. So
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needless to say, Catherine's under a lot
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of pressure, and she's turning
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the big 4-0 this year, which
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back then means her womb is pretty
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much closed for business. Yeah, poor thing.
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And on top of all of that,
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Henry is still banging anything that moves,
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and Catherine has spent 15 years trying
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to ignore it. But that got a
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lot harder when one of his side
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pieces got pregnant six years ago with
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a boy. I do remember
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that, yes. Now, the
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boy is illegitimate, so he's a secret.
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And more importantly, he can't bump Mary
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out of the succession line. But
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Catherine is still green with envy.
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I mean, this woman did what
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she couldn't, which is why she
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enjoys festivities like today. Anytime she
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can escape reality is a blessing.
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Like me with Frasier. Yeah, and
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Law & Order, and every other show. Yes,
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TV in general. Henry
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VIII walks in. The men
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bow and the woman curtsy. Catherine
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watches as he walks right to the middle of
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the room, clearly gearing up to make an announcement.
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He holds out his arm, encouraging a little
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boy to come forward. Catherine
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sucks in her breath. It's
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Henry's illegitimate son. And
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this fool is presenting him proudly in
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the court. The audacity.
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I love it. The audacity. Now, Catherine
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can feel her ladies looking at her
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for a reaction. She pastes
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a regal smile on her face, but
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she wants to disappear. And
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then, just when she thinks it can't
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get any worse, it does. Uh-oh. Henry
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VIII announces that this six-year-old
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kid is now Lord Admiral
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of England. Now,
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this little squirt probably... He can't even ride a
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horse yet, and now he's got one of the
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most prestigious titles in the country. Or say the
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word Admiral. Yeah. Catherine
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feels the room spin. Elevating
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his love child to such a high status
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could mean way more trouble ahead. If
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it's Lord Admiral today, it could
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be heir to the throne tomorrow. Now
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everyone claps politely for Henry's announcement. Catherine
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keeps smiling, but her balled-up fists
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tell another story. She's
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been ignoring Henry's side action for years,
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but he just threw it in her face in the
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most public way. And that
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was the final straw. Mmm, get
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him. She won't let anyone take
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Mary's rightful spot to the throne.
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If Henry is going to throw the rules
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to the wind, then so
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will she. Follow
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