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Every great romance story has a
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happily ever after. Two people meet,
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fall in love, and end
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up together for the rest of their days.
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Nancy and Dan Brophy were one of
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those couples. Dan was a
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chef who taught at a Portland
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culinary school. Nancy was a romance
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writer who filled her novels with
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sexy fantasies, betrayals, and murder. When
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Dan ends up dead, details of his
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murder that could have been ripped from
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the pages of Nancy's novels become
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clues, and Nancy becomes a
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main suspect. So this
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isn't a romance story. It starts
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with a happily ever after, but
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it doesn't end with one. I
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was a member of Nancy's writing
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group, and this case had us
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all asking the same question. Was
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Nancy just researching her next novel,
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or was she planning a murder?
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This is a story about what
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happens when the line blurs between
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fiction and reality. I'm about to
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Nicole Herman was lounging on a
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beach in Croatia with
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a perfect view of the ocean. It
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looks a lot like Oregon, with the exception
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that the water is like turquoise. It
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was nice and sunny, exactly
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how Nicole pictured her honeymoon.
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Nicole's new husband got up to take a
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swim, but she didn't join
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him. She was in the middle
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of a novel. The man on the
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book cover had a square
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jaw and a come-hither stare. All
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day, Nicole had just been waiting
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to get back to him. She
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sat on the floor and just looked for her
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to sit between his legs. He
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showed her how everything worked. Then
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loaded and unloaded each of them.
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Are you showing me this so
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I can kill my husband? Drava
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spoke slowly, choosing each word with
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care. Maybe in the beginning you
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met Son of Dam. But
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now you're just another loose end. He
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will know a hundred ways to kill
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you and make it look like an accident. She
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pressed her forehead against his and
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closed her eyes. Don't make me
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like you. I'd rather
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you were a knuckle dragging me under the
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hole. Unless I'm
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dead. And this
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is over. Maybe. But
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I do plan to use your body until
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I leave. Scandalous.
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I was probably reading anywhere from 150 to 300 pages a day.
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Nicole had been laid out on the
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beach for hours reading. She
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was already on book number two
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in the Wrong Never Felt So
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Right series. And she
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was determined to get through all five books
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by the end of her trip. Every
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book was more or less the same. The
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burly former Navy SEAL comes to
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the rescue of beautiful young woman on
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the run from her dangerous husband. It
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was an odd choice of reading for a honeymoon.
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But away from the beaches of Croatia,
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back home in Portland, Oregon, Nicole
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was a deputy district attorney. Those are
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things as a prosecutor that you sometimes want
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to get ahead of and in front of. And
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for months, she and her team had
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been trying to solve a
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murder. But progress
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had been slow. Direct
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evidence kept eluding them. As
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the pressure mounted. Nicole and her
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team had turned to an unlikely
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lead, a series of
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romance novels written by the dead man's
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wife. It was a little bit meta
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in terms of what we were dealing
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with. Her books were packed with details
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borrowed from their own lives as
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a local Portland chef and a
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romance novelist, details
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that the DAs had no other way
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to get their hands on. So
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now Nicole was doing homework on
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her honeymoon. I
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wasn't so sure there would truly be
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anything, but it was sort
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of in the back of my mind, what if
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something similar to this has played out in
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one of her novels and it's all written
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right there for us to find. More shirts
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were going to be unbuttoned. More
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dresses were going to get unzipped.
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And every new chapter, every
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new scene, could potentially
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be the one to crack the murder
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case that was waiting for her back
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