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the Uk. At.
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Age thirty, Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart is
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at a crossroads in his life.
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The aristocracy of snow be Salzburg
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have turned. The news is up
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with the composer and the Archbishop
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dismisses Mozart from his position with
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a kick in them, but he
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escapes to Prague the second his
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carriage drive through the city gates.
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Mozart over here as a young
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boy whistle the melody of his
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very own Figaro. This Mozart mania
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opens all his creative valves. The
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scores flow out like beer. From
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the tops of the city
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taverns. practice made Mozart a
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virtuoso vitality made him the
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creator of Don Giovanni, the
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opera of all over as
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the poet Lorenzo.ponti composed it's
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lyrics from the hotel opposite,
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sending them to Mozart's desk
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I hope the player about to
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will make very clear. Thank.
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You. I hope you enjoy it. I
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evening and from listeners
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sepsis Welcome to Paradise
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or not. any kind of. I
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am humbled zeroed in on. Steam
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version of analysis and could
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you stop screaming? If I'm
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going to turn are gonna
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feel well enough to fish?
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it might be used as
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a someone says. Must have
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been. Please call me of says
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is just as he. Is.
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The time and then why are
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your initials Lg? Our family never
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a shop sign and really rather
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die my time with fluttering hard
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confess pardon me while I inhale
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with sufficient figure for another screen
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but Miss Wilkins when a mile
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and a half underground who. Will
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to oh well that's a gentleman line
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on the basement floor one a a
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press close to the board for some
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reason or what about that small man
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with the has over the sir searched
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on the beam. hello ah no real.
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Then I had assumed lack of oxygen
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unfair were making me hallucinate. Seemed unlikely
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anyone else be in an abandoned and
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rapidly smoking lead moon. Yes,
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nice was proceeding very
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much as. You. Single
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Bill Nye. In
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my lifetime. Generally
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now also. Have
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never heard that cat noise in real
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life. and terrible comedies every time throw
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out here. For
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me and ran off. I'm innocent my car and
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bring it with me undies. a cat would be
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in a man homes cats just. Hang around and to
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be a dead in and. Source:
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do you know? Fan base: Because
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because it's pissing greens
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somewhere over there, there
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are a lot month.
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exactly what most people die joyce or on
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a golf course in the putting green is
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himself. Her Europe is out who have never
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known anyone more. Last is like one of
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those cats you find under your shares. I
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coached him with food but his know who
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removed. For
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I write his. Thoughts,
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Ideas. Slapstick.
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but said show except I already
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couldn't see anything. Made any
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to protect her demeanor. sorry. Have
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you to expand. Dropped it
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obviously on a cat nicht
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it. It was that stripy
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big tangerine one cat know
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to think who was having
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sex sorry Good enough not
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mention said I didn't fan
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I didn't know mention sex
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and I apologize. To him
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about autism. We're not very much know.
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What I was on. What it
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was there. When you can't see
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everything could be anything you do.
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you don't know, You know? Yes,
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He didn't fit in the dark. Me to pat. For
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the worst, nothing. I
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mean a whole we to the here
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and currently being would just outside Athens
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waiting for much of grandmother speak or
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to something. Nine on those. Dark pact
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with instructions to school for her. Now
8:18
I'm panicking or doesn't stop a panic
8:21
and caught up with panicking over part
8:23
which comes out his worth and panicking
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makes this about me and none of
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this is about minutes about Ben. Can
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be concerned about to didn't once you know. You.
8:31
Worries. Him
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last have never known anyone more. Last he's
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like one of those cats you find under
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your shared. I coached him with food but
8:41
he's not only was I to try Joyce
8:44
I did have a put a foot is
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fair is bread from when he was little.
8:48
Like if you can't force someone to feel
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loved the. Presumptive redraw. The stay on the.
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Can we just Not discuss your comes with
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intimacy? Know. My
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problem and and will so please just
9:00
for the ceiling for the moment. Could
9:02
you? Could you hold my hand the
9:04
an anchor points so I do the
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same for you unless his. Jokes.
9:12
Sinus. None of this is I do. With
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this is a speech kids. Are
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listening to the radio. Smith I
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love to this. Autumn
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leaves, mister noise. Is pretty stuff
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I feel more than and i was
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most in my. Dark
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get the source, went outside and
9:34
exactly that often find from under
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the covers. It has things that.
9:38
We will find that reason. Alone
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in the woods in the developed and we can decide
9:43
into. His
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is it says his podcast I listened to that
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nice and I'm trying. To sleep or these
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are pretending realities not really is disassociated.
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I sort of float above much of
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it. Doesn't mean I'm com mais I'm
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terrified. Bad.
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He to answer if it was for
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move asked me who are you
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holding my is ill. As they are
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the handles of the head. Or
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you comments and. I'm not a bloody in front
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of the. Having the Ls
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and sentence clean some nice.
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Funny like like the Goon show and
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sorry I read that again. Move around.
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The horn got me through my divorce
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on the home. The odor focused. Yeah,
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you were married. Know as get
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to do it stated expensive. In. The
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Karma. Coax
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half hour. Some
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episodes of those as east Castles
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and they're made of funny. I
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like static to tune it out
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of nowhere and everywhere make it
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up as he go along. Both
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enough we listened to my brother
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you he was fun at you
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funny not like my brother He
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told the clumps sylvester prop know
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that's the wrong kind of phonics.
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the almost changed it to see
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says hi. I'm proud. To do
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as he was funny as hell but
11:07
when he hit the stage is is
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froze, self sabotage and or reform fronted
11:12
shirt. we were going to be a
11:14
double act. I couldn't get my hand
11:17
to have Club Door for the best
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I pre sale is quicker my family
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you'd end up with the script for
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us if Sternberg and worked at button
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and. It
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could have here is that. Might not
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a cone an ex. Who.
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Don't want to wash and who it is
11:39
I was with sometimes it already has become
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the as an hour a but I'm looked
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everywhere else. friend
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making is not in our genes a
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past acquaintance could have driven in from
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flooding nesta no offense to know you
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think dealers would leave people alone as
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knows if they'll run out a client's
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the selling drugs something of which people
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cannot get enough Are
14:01
there tablets? I can't avoid dying by
14:03
not living. I never have dragged you
14:05
out here. Why didn't you say? Well, at
14:07
one point I thought we'd have time to
14:09
confide in each other. Well, that makes two of us.
14:11
Simon, I give you food in containers.
14:14
You eat it, I assume. You
14:16
return the empty containers, stand it, I
14:18
swear to God, on the same spot
14:20
every time, half way across my doormat
14:22
and no further. Well, I've never been invited
14:24
into your house, have I? Well, it was Covid.
14:26
That was years ago. And people get into habits,
14:29
like you being a one-man doomsday colt in
14:31
suede shoes. I have one pair of suede shoes.
14:33
I barely wear them. Is
14:36
that him? One pair. Simon, is that
14:38
him? Ben!
14:41
What have you taken? You
14:43
shouldn't be in my room. You have to knock. Why
14:47
am I? In the middle of a bloody
14:49
forest, that beats me. What have you taken?
14:51
I feel so... Benny, what have you done?
14:53
Bear! This
14:55
beautiful feeling. Torch. Ice.
14:59
Yes, plastic potential. Hello.
15:01
Funny. Funny lady. You
15:04
call me Bear. I was talking about your toy,
15:06
the bear. I don't know why. Ignore me. Why
15:09
now? Why did you call
15:11
me Bear now? His pupils are fine. Pulse
15:13
seems right. He's a bit clammy. Joyce.
15:16
I didn't get you out here because I thought you'd be... Actually
15:19
useful. Not what I meant, but how do
15:21
you call me? Oh, Joyce, I'm
15:23
so, so sorry. I have
15:25
other pajamas and other
15:27
coats. What did you take, Ben? Nothing. I wanted
15:30
to... Wanted
15:32
the off switch. I
15:34
really did. I had some
15:36
bear. Some? When you feel like this, you call
15:39
me. You call the NA guy. You find me
15:41
and tell me. We live in the same bloody
15:43
house. Can you walk, Ben? I'll
15:45
stay here. Okay.
15:48
Uh... Okay. Relax,
15:51
Ben. Feet together. No, let me. Knees
15:54
up. Hold his knees. I didn't hold
15:56
his knees together, Simon. Mr Pratchett. I'm sure.
15:58
What are you... You'll
16:03
be fine, Ben. You have an aneurysm
16:05
and you're not a fireman. It's
16:07
not exclusive now. The public right lapsed in
16:09
1928. He's too heavy
16:11
for you. Where is nothing? Same
16:14
as yours. Calories. We've earned them off. Careful,
16:16
please. And how do you know any of
16:18
this? I did first aid.
16:20
Crowd control for a band. All-female
16:23
third-wave star. Very little crowd control. Quiet.
16:25
Got a lot of first aid. Only
16:28
for the band, oddly. Can I at
16:30
least take his feet? No. Pickle Saints.
16:32
My, my. Ah, not
16:35
to worry. Be a calm bear. Pickle Saints
16:37
don't know this. Hardly anyone
16:39
did. Whoa! Whoa.
16:43
I'm all right. Ben, you're walking now, OK?
16:45
You can walk. You're not making a lady
16:47
with an aneurysm carry you. They put a
16:49
clip on it. It's fine. It's an aneurysm
16:52
in your brain. That's not fine. Could everybody
16:54
just not be dying? Your time would be
16:56
OK. Your dying would not
16:58
be OK. You're more wrong now. Come home. You
17:00
want me home? Of course I do. We're family.
17:03
We could hug, if you... Or
17:06
not. We're family. Hey,
17:08
soup lady. Hello,
17:11
soup lady. She's Joyce. Yeah,
17:13
the lady who brings the soup. But
17:15
Joyce, Ben. Hello, Ben. Hey, are you
17:18
an airman? Another speck of vomit, aren't you? I'm neat.
17:20
Are you an airman? Now, one
17:22
foot in front of the other foot. That's it.
17:24
Come on. I know how to walk. My
17:27
mum taught me to walk. You don't... You
17:30
didn't... Why pretend
17:32
you care? Why am I out here if
17:34
I don't care? Why have I spent all night looking
17:36
for you? How do I know where to find you?
17:38
You didn't know. If you were looking all night, then
17:40
you didn't know. You forgot. This was my place. This
17:43
is sunny here all the time. Benny! If I... I
17:45
knew if you didn't bother about me, then I wouldn't
17:47
have to care about you. I need to know that...
17:51
Only then I felt bad and then
17:53
your switch happened anyway. You need an
17:55
ambulance, really. Will manage.
17:57
What people do, isn't it? Did
18:00
you sell it or chuck it in a lake? There isn't
18:02
a lake. I'm being unreasonable, just let
18:04
me. You thought
18:06
if you left the house and never came back, I'd... what? Not
18:08
notice? Be glad? I can't think. And
18:11
I can. What's wrong with you? You can tell me
18:13
things, Benny. Fight. Flight. That. But
18:16
we have the other option. We always choose
18:18
the other option. Which is? Funny. Acute stress
18:21
response under threat. There's fight or flight. But
18:23
some of us can't fight or flee. Yes, yes.
18:25
And we have, if we bloody well remember, funny.
18:28
And we get each other through a day at
18:30
a time, a moment at a time. Why
18:33
do you forget? People. They
18:35
forget anything. Pal, you're
18:37
exhausted and cold. Let's
18:39
get indoors. Joyce,
18:41
your place is... Significantly near it.
18:44
Yes, sir. Then. Careful,
18:47
Benny. It'll be okay.
18:49
It's never okay. It
18:52
is never okay. Yeah,
19:09
a minute. On my
19:11
way. Ah, hello. Hi. Birds.
19:18
Is that funny? Oh, of
19:21
course. Nice. It's accepted
19:23
the incredible race. Wellington's
19:26
rinsed out okay. No idea. I lost
19:29
interest of the first half hour. I'm so cold, my hands don't work.
19:34
Oh, so soaking. May
19:37
I come in? Sorry. Sorry,
19:39
Gail. Your own kitchen.
19:41
Naturally welcome. Your cooking? Ah,
19:44
just something to do. I mean, a
19:47
kitchen, cooking is a way to exist
19:49
in this space. You're not a cook. Your
19:52
cooking is a way to exist in this space. You
19:56
have a lot of your cupboards. They're
19:58
like Tutankhamun's too. tumor full
20:00
of tinterotis. Mainly that. Lentils and
20:02
flour at the bottom of the wardrobe. We'll
20:05
say Frank Yarmulian. They are not
20:07
good. War as hell. I've got
20:09
supply and dieting since the... The
20:11
horrifying catalogue of unfurling calamity and
20:13
dark. Mainly that. You can cook.
20:16
You didn't say. Was I supposed to?
20:18
I have been bringing you food for
20:21
months, more than a year. Years actually.
20:23
Well you never asked if I could
20:25
cook it and you had your habit
20:27
of bringing food and I had mine
20:30
eating it and then when you were in
20:32
my life house and also life I was
20:34
going to mention cooking before it got awkward and
20:36
then we ran out of time. This
20:39
is a sort of cassoulet
20:41
will be. Your potatoes
20:44
seem tired. Best
20:47
of years of all the veg I thought. I see.
20:50
I don't know if you absolutely do. How's
20:52
the patient? Washed. Nice towels.
20:54
New. I like them. Why didn't
20:56
you call him Bear? If that was his name.
20:59
Because I don't know. I thought he'd
21:01
want to be a grown-up. But he
21:03
wants to be grown up. Time just
21:05
makes it compulsory. Quite. He's
21:07
on the sofa sleeping like a tiny
21:10
boy, like a tiny bear. Well I'm going
21:12
to find a pullover and... Are
21:15
you crying? Low
21:18
and slow. Let it simmer. Mr Pratt I
21:20
will not have it. It's nice. Good recipe.
21:22
I will not have you crying and
21:24
expecting I'll ignore it. Sorry. I
21:28
don't know him now. Not really. Not
21:30
yet. He thought I wanted
21:32
him to go away. Then he doesn't know you
21:35
either. We had a
21:37
fight. I said
21:39
he needed to call his sponsor, you
21:41
know, Narcotics Anonymous and then we're
21:43
shouting and I went for a walk and
21:45
I can't remember what I said to make
21:48
him run away. He's got nowhere to run
21:50
to. He was staying with his
21:52
dad. A man's a bloody monster. You used to
21:54
hurt him, sell his belongings. He bends only 17.
21:56
I know. He looks 20. Hershey
22:00
The of his eyes. What? Why
22:02
did he get a life that
22:04
gave you my old eyes? His son?
22:06
Nothing wrong is a baby. You eat.
22:09
It is the baby I used to
22:11
hold when Charity was when when we
22:13
western concept of terms and there's
22:15
no point to someone who's term but
22:18
this. Are
22:20
you reasons me to. Hunt. I don't know. Proper.
22:22
For his I need to since and. Tell
22:26
me that Your mouth. When.
22:30
When chart was growing up with, we
22:33
were. Perfect. For this.
22:37
And the way she danced it was. It is
22:39
the way her mother dogs when we were. Before
22:43
the hospital stuff is funny. We were
22:46
going to split up and then her
22:48
being terminal saved us for made months.
22:50
The toys like that, you get something
22:52
settled. Whatever it is, it's feels solid,
22:54
but it's only the pause before everything
22:56
breaks. I'm not asking to be cheered
22:59
up on no time at season when
23:01
I even say. The
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T had new plan of have
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forced in the average shovel test.
23:10
Somebody said it in any serious understood
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it offers. this wasn't needed. That and
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need me now. Always done. Since it
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maybe I am doing cat. Sized
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bad. Weather
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have is a sense that. Was.
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will have screwed. Divorce
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me as anything.
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It's a case of sounds. Able
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to evade you sound the same line as
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you like by man was lying down with
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local. Law.
24:02
What I have wasn't. Decapitation and he
24:04
goes missing. Hip hop is. Hop
24:07
on the. Front
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of his. Earth. Cooled
24:12
off. On
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square in. My
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Lufthansa travel without a thought. You were fan.
24:19
And honey you know about the will with
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home screen because why wouldn't I? The Wilhelm
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scream for been overcome by anyone? Could Wilhelm
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for be hacked? A good summary: Share Bully.
24:28
I know things, useful things. and I woke
24:30
up and I felt kind of okay. I'm
24:32
sorry I forgot. everything I do is ride.
24:34
Never said that, Never. I just don't understand
24:37
you and or not on I'm trying six months
24:39
I still can't get you still won't let me
24:41
know you don't want to say be we didn't
24:43
know so I know the wilhelm scream because I
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go is i love sound semi thing they
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with while my saying and no one can take
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them and you got bloody podcast you make the
24:52
pod cause a hobby i didn't know you're measuring
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in the guards and i. Listened and it's
24:56
it's. nice and it's funny. And kind and
24:58
I really like thank you to be like that
25:01
with mean there are promise you I'm really sorry
25:03
when I'm asleep. a new record it all and
25:05
eyes if any you could find miss home or
25:07
hey what are not allowed to listen I spoil
25:09
I would use force in idea in common and
25:12
I know from the key in the door from
25:14
the sound of his see how he'd be or
25:16
that be other people I'd listen to my sounds
25:18
and I'd be somewhere else of the. Stupid.
25:20
Stupid kid and I think if I
25:22
just forget about him and see my
25:24
forget about me. You're the one
25:27
who forgot you plan to love to
25:29
be done for time. I hate it
25:31
when you for said. I
25:42
used to. A
25:45
newer me on are no one of. People.
25:49
Are know that people have died from Rudy
25:51
A mind of who was required. That.
25:53
Boy he grabbed my life. So
25:57
I miss the some homes really. The.
26:01
World will. Barely
26:03
hear. Any to
26:05
really take a breath and shut
26:07
my eyes. The in France trying
26:09
think there is some unless they
26:11
were no and bloody France youth
26:13
you think I runaways. Singing
26:16
and the sun is shining.
26:18
Caught cooking almonds in sugarland
26:20
Who can smell the caramel
26:22
and read. A
26:24
pool or don't need manager
26:26
who always try to manage.
26:29
Managing. Is what I do instead
26:31
of love when love would prove the
26:33
senses and now we'll com. Not
26:35
shouting. Speak
26:38
To them. That
26:41
is. I
26:45
mean, I'm not arguing. Or. Sensible.
26:48
I'm not in general sense of. Irony:
26:51
A breeze. Episodes of Common Sense myself.
26:53
As like a nervous rash. As
26:57
opposed to a fool leprosy. own on
26:59
that both and. Why does anything pleasant make
27:01
the start to see like. On rhetorical question
27:03
or can. We
27:06
have to go upstairs. Know that? This
27:09
will be right. Under
27:23
and have as much. As.
27:30
The older one liner, let's lads like
27:32
screaming into a match cook some Arabian
27:34
Sea. Oh God.
27:37
Now worth. Zoo
27:40
current. I would like to talk
27:42
current as back bay and I'm
27:44
sorry when I was your as
27:46
grand as work grand as they
27:48
had toffees and cardigans. In the
27:50
future was an already on fire
27:52
and we want our enough to
27:54
live for whom forever Although I
27:56
would be delighted if you want
27:58
now serves Stay forever. Not
28:03
the bedroom
28:06
then. Well, obviously
28:13
not the airing cupboard. I felt extremely
28:15
safe in an airing cupboard before now. Was
28:17
life really like that? Sometimes, not now, so
28:20
I'm fine. It's
28:22
going to be the bathroom, isn't it? Because
28:25
it has a lock. Ben!
28:33
Oh, soap and up,
28:35
Ben. Don't worry us again. No one
28:37
hates you. You weren't there. I
28:40
know. I wanted to be. You were my
28:42
part. Then me and Mum went away
28:44
with him and you never even bloody wrote to me.
28:46
I did write every week. There's a box in
28:48
my attic with all of... They
28:51
just got returned. Sorry, wrong address. And
28:53
then I didn't know where you were. You gave
28:55
up. Not ever. Not for a breath. By
28:58
the time we got away, Mum was already on
29:00
the stuff. Then I started using
29:02
two and made her worse. I'm
29:05
like this. I'm a curse, you know? Ben,
29:07
I get scared and
29:09
loud, but it never means I don't love you
29:12
or whatever forget you. And
29:14
I can get quieter, so
29:16
don't be away from me again. Not
29:18
this way. Not any way. Please. Ben,
29:25
what's in there, Joyce? Nothing dangerous. Of
29:27
course it's dangerous. Bathrooms are the funfares of
29:29
risk. Ben!
29:32
Ben! Talk to me! Where
29:36
are you going? To get the door
29:38
open! I'm getting the door open! No,
29:40
you're not! You're hurting yourself! I am
29:42
not hurting my... Sod
29:46
it! Ben! What
29:49
are you doing, please? Ben,
29:52
I'm an accountant. Was an accountant. And
29:54
I loved it. The wonderful boredom.
29:56
And the total is the total. Or it's
29:58
not. I
32:00
found her lying near our front door. Oh, pal.
32:03
Just in the passage by our flat. She'd
32:06
just been through the wall from me and I was
32:08
asleep and I don't know why she went outside. We
32:12
were going to start again, you know. We
32:15
were going to catch the train and surprise you. I
32:19
can't imagine, Ben. I won't say I
32:21
can, but I'm here. We're both here.
32:24
You don't have to be alone with it. I was. Dad
32:27
pretended he was someone else
32:29
and the services people believed him.
32:33
And he got me again. I kept trying. Well,
32:37
when I'm 18, you won't need to bother. Will
32:39
you not? Your home,
32:41
home permanently. Now, right now, this is
32:43
her home, but you know what I
32:46
mean. You're welcome any time. Yeah, see,
32:49
people like you. You will be welcome
32:51
in all civilized places. You are likeable
32:53
and joyous. Likeable. Thank
32:55
you. And she
32:57
likes you too. So we're all
33:00
bloody amazing. In fact, I
33:02
think pretty much everyone is amazing after
33:05
these last years. By now,
33:07
we should all be hiding in the woods or hitting
33:09
the floor or something. But mostly
33:11
we keep on. People keep on. They
33:14
even seem OK. I
33:16
can seem OK. Sometimes
33:18
the smiles don't work. Mine, other people's.
33:20
When you see that kind of smile,
33:22
you help try to. I don't
33:24
much. I'm knackered. But I know you meant
33:26
to. You have to walk a mile in the
33:28
other person's shoes. And then you're a mile away and
33:30
you have their shoes. Did
33:33
I tell it to you? No, because we haven't
33:35
really done it. I knew it already. It's
33:39
OK. Sure. It's not wonderful.
33:42
Then again, your recent version of a knock
33:44
knock joke involves you never saying who's there
33:46
and me just occasionally munching. I
33:50
never knew you like sounds podcasts.
33:53
I didn't know you like mine. It makes
33:55
me very happy if you do. But for
33:57
crying out loud, come in and listen when
33:59
I do the next episode. And I have
34:01
this idea for OG to end up, you
34:04
know, I'd like a volcano really real
34:06
bassy rumbles In for sound Oh,
34:08
would that be too scary? I
34:10
mean, we're funny but about serious
34:12
things but funny like life
34:15
and if OG is really in peril
34:17
and with Miss Wilkins OG funkwacker What?
34:21
OG funkwacker Miss
34:24
Wilkins and OG funkwacker We're having a
34:26
moment though Joyce, me, Ben, blood on the
34:28
floor, bonding, manliness, what's some Your
34:30
podcast is Paradise Fine Good
34:33
evening gentle listeners around the world
34:35
and ships at sea Welcome to
34:37
Paradise Fine You absolute shit
34:40
Joyce, Joyce, what the hell?
34:47
The thing is, Ben, I don't
34:50
want you to think that life is, that
34:52
it won't be kind My life usually is
34:54
not running around and drama
34:56
and I'll
34:58
be in heaven Joyce! Oh, you're
35:02
coming too Me? Yeah, of
35:04
course you Simon, pop
35:13
Joyce I
35:16
was trying to tell you Elizabeth Taylor
35:19
Could there be a single hour today when everyone isn't
35:21
playing Let's Give Simon a Hard Attack It seemed to
35:24
suit my current demeanor What in hell is wrong with
35:26
you? What? You
35:28
make that podcast, you make Paradise Fine I'm
35:31
going to just bloody stop because 50% of the
35:33
time it seems to make people really upset Don't you dare This
35:36
is why I turn the comments off, feedback,
35:38
it's always confusing March 2020, I
35:40
did not smile, not once, and from there
35:42
I ended up talking to myself, or wishing
35:45
I'd go away And then Paradise
35:47
Fine was like listening to the radio with
35:49
my mum and being a kid and so
35:51
still living Listening inside the drying frame with
35:53
the blankets thrown over the floor Originally
35:55
how I recorded it It made me happy
35:57
It was a happy thing the
38:00
soup and we'll see each other every day
38:02
and get used to each other properly and
38:04
eventually It's really late Simon or early or
38:06
whatever, just go home. I can't
38:09
fight about this as well Well there's the cassoulet,
38:11
I have to take it out in a bit
38:13
and I can't go home, I've just sat down
38:15
Simon, when you get someone else, because
38:17
you need someone else, when you make a plan
38:19
for them, you have to tell them the plan
38:21
No, but no, you're
38:23
weird What? Well, not
38:26
normal, I'm not normal,
38:29
we're weird, beautiful, Ben
38:32
also I think is weird
38:34
We are all weird, and what
38:37
are the chances? And weird people can't
38:39
be with normal people, it hurts us,
38:41
we're soft and the world isn't And
38:44
there's weird and then there's weird and it
38:47
takes so long to find And
38:49
when you find the right fit, you're
38:51
lucky and you should know that and
38:54
be careful and not blow
38:56
it and I'm panicking and it's like
38:58
I'm spiraling out into space And you
39:01
knew about needing an anchor point, that's
39:03
not fair, you understanding and then going away
39:08
Do you know why this is the first time you've been in my house?
39:11
Is the answer because I'm a terrible person It's
39:13
because I can only do this one more time
39:16
Look, you
39:18
see this in my wallet with
39:21
me most of the time It's
39:24
very young, very beautiful, Eric Malcolm
39:27
Because then I'm not a single act,
39:29
I've got Eric You're
39:31
alright then, you've got Eric and
39:34
you've got Ben huh? I'll send him along
39:36
when he wakes up No, no,
39:39
you give her the picture Who woke you up?
39:41
I don't like the noise, none of the shouting
39:43
because of the stuff with him and it makes
39:45
my head go But
39:47
I was kind of awake earlier I'm beginning
39:49
to think you like being carried about You take
39:51
the picture and you give it to the nice
39:53
lady and then you're a double act with someone
39:55
who's alive It's okay, we're a double act, you
39:57
and me bit bear, Benny Bear I'd
40:00
be a moron part. We'll do the podcast
40:02
voices together. It'd be nice. We'll think of
40:04
new characters. You can be some of the
40:06
old ones, if you like. OG Frank Wacker?
40:10
Well, he's the lead. Yeah. I would like to
40:12
play him. Sure. You
40:15
can do that. Sure. We'll be fine. Oh my
40:17
God. How do you put up with him, soup
40:19
lady? Joyce. Course I want to be in the
40:21
podcast, but I'm not going to take your favour
40:23
a bit. Why would you let me take
40:25
OG? Why are you letting
40:27
her go? She's not going. We're in her
40:29
house. We have to go. I have to
40:32
go. She's actually throwing you out. I am here,
40:34
you know. Give him a chance, could you? Ben,
40:36
Ben, you're a very beautiful young man.
40:39
If you say so. You're funny the way
40:41
birds fly. That makes you beautiful. So be
40:43
very careful around people, because they'll love you.
40:46
Soup lady, there are things that are worse
40:48
than being loved. The pair of you
40:50
all know if I get too much affection, I might
40:52
be happy. And then what? Why
40:54
not choose me and not her too, Pops?
40:57
You're a grown man. You have old guy
40:59
stuff to do. Choose both. Be
41:01
a triple act. There aren't any. Groucho, Chico
41:03
and Harper would disagree. There are triple
41:06
acts. What about? Don't say what about Zeppo. He was a
41:08
straight man. Stooges, three of
41:10
them. I know funny. Funny
41:12
beats everything. Dying is
41:14
easy. Comedy is hard. That's
41:17
how strong funny is. It won't bring anyone back, but
41:20
it helps everyone left behind. I love you
41:22
very much, Bear. Very, very much.
41:28
I can't throw you out. It's OK. You
41:30
don't need to. Come on, Bear. Come on. I
41:32
can't throw you out because
41:34
I don't want to. You're
41:36
weird. I see. And I'm
41:38
aware that you have female characters in
41:40
Paradise Finds and nobody's female to play
41:42
them. That seems wrong. Patriarchal.
41:47
Joyce, you're
41:49
weird. And funny.
41:52
Lucille Ball, Katherine Hepburn, Ginger Rogers.
41:55
She didn't just dance funny as
41:57
anything. And Lovely..
42:00
And. You like a show. I love the said. It.
42:03
Reminds me of someone oh seem
42:05
odd because I was. thinking.
42:08
Of some, I'm one of. The.
42:10
Best kinds of funny. I don't say mine
42:12
is anything like as but the. Best.
42:14
Kinds there a way of saying
42:16
i know, so just. I mean,
42:19
ruinous isn't that terrible? But. We.
42:22
Still got this. We.
42:24
Still got this. Is
42:48
just as it is easy to see
42:50
massa your volume and enunciation. Mrs. Smith
42:52
Initial still differences in some of the
42:55
lot of movement smoking article I have
42:57
never encountered in danger more acoustic a
42:59
position to the a modest made in
43:01
my view possibly do with the owner
43:03
right? Well I've been so do it.
43:05
Also while it's more like like moths
43:08
and back from inevitable and tragic consequences
43:10
we're sorry for your loss and I
43:12
must confess I'm a little nervous and
43:14
on smarter possibly how do I want
43:16
to The. Box. Eventually, Claude, Basil, Doris
43:19
on the four Hundred and thirty two
43:21
others of course. Then the case next
43:23
ten minutes, and oh dear God Miss
43:25
Whoop to the yes yes before are
43:28
inevitably deeply unpleasant deaths. Will you Marry
43:30
me? Love
43:33
with. Some for a
43:35
wedding here though is it would. Like for
43:37
another take up the surface if you
43:39
want it or not. Gloomy alcove over.
43:41
There I would love seeing narrative it.
43:43
at the moment I think we'll run.
43:47
Run like to stop some. It's
43:49
got it off at an average. Of of
43:52
God's sake, shut up about your
43:54
list. Were in love. Hi
44:00
all of us have barely hacienda
44:02
zags. Is this a chance to
44:04
cancel? Bring The Knicks. Fans
44:15
goods isn't very good
44:17
also you also you.
44:22
Won't go to bars. Always.
44:53
In. A single act sign in
44:55
fact was played by Bill Nye
44:57
so seine i'm merely a Boomer
44:59
and Benzene by Sebastian Cross. It
45:01
was written by A Kennedy and
45:03
directed by Sally A Than. It
45:06
was a Bbc audio production for Radius or.
45:24
Fire breathing dragon Full
45:27
house. The
45:29
mountaintop? Something to look around.
45:31
Campus. Mythical
45:33
creatures are all around us
45:35
is. Don't
45:45
need me on a project. To
45:48
discover mythical creatures. Across the
45:50
buses on and find out what they
45:53
were mean about. The
45:55
Series Some Bbc Radio Four. Subscribes
45:58
to mythical creatures, The key
46:00
things. In.
46:04
Seventeen eighty six your hand, Wolfgang
46:06
von Gutter suffers from dreadful writer's
46:08
block and instead of night, he
46:11
sets off on his Italian journey.
46:14
Amidst the pantheon, the all
46:16
engulfing sense of lemon trees
46:18
and the enduring new Italian
46:21
models his virginity he loses
46:23
his in Rome is creativity
46:25
He rediscovers is increasing room
46:27
and beds. his inspiration gases
46:29
like the law, that of
46:31
the serious, the result of
46:33
the young artist Wanderlust. Over
46:35
eight hundred water colors and
46:37
three completed plays cherished for
46:40
all eternity. Such creative output
46:42
Warren, some don't Time. In
46:44
the cool whole for the sistine chapel
46:46
good. Stopped for a nap. On
46:49
the throne of Pope Pius, the
46:51
seats. Well.
46:54
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