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Hey, big dreamers, this is Olga

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Cartman, Sofia and Eva's mom. Are

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you ready to have your minds blown? This

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week, while Sofia and Eva

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are off at camp enjoying

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their vacation, we're bringing you

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a special rebroadcast and one

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of our all-time favorite episodes.

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Originally, we recorded this episode

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in 2018, when Eva was

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just the same age as

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Sofia now. This

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episode takes us into

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the extraordinary world of

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mentalism with the amazing

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Oz Perlman. And

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Oz blew our minds by

0:40

knowing exactly what we were

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thinking, yes, live over

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the phone. Whenever you're

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new to the Dream Big Podcast or a

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long-time listener, we thought it would be cool

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to dive back into this gem that

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might have gotten lost in our

0:56

timeline. This is

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episode 412 of the

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Dream Big Podcast and it's time

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to Dream Big. Hi,

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it's Eva Cartman and you're

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listening to the Dream Big

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go, to learn, laugh and

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grow. Today we welcome mentalist

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Oz Perlman, my favorite contestant

1:18

ever on America's Got Talent,

1:20

and he does not disappoint

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Podcast Show. I am

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your host, Steve A. a car

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man. And today I'd like to

2:03

start with a quick shout out to the review

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It's time for you all to enjoy

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one of the most entertaining episodes we've

2:50

ever released. O's

2:52

Pearlman is a master mentalist.

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My family and I became huge

2:57

fans of his when he was

2:59

on America's Got Talent a few

3:01

years ago. He

3:03

also even reads my mind and

3:05

my mom's mind on this episode.

3:08

We were using Skype with no

3:10

video, just audio. I still

3:12

get goosebumps just thinking about it. And

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without further ado, here's

3:17

our interview with O's Pearlman.

3:19

Let's roll the tape. Hi,

3:23

O's. It is so exciting to have

3:25

you on the show. Thanks

3:27

so much. We are huge fans

3:29

of America's Got Talent and your

3:31

favorite act by far when you

3:34

were on the show. Yes.

3:36

Well, I appreciate it. And

3:41

you're welcome. And to all the big

3:43

dreamers in our audience, we will be

3:45

putting links to O's videos

3:49

in our show notes. You

3:51

just must watch his videos.

3:55

You know, let's start by with a

3:57

simple question because on America's Got Talent,

3:59

were referred to as the mentalist.

4:02

And I know while a lot

4:04

of our audience know what a

4:06

magician is, not

4:09

everyone may be familiar with the term

4:11

mentalist. Can you tell me what that

4:13

means? So a

4:15

mentalist is kind of a specialty. So think about if you

4:17

were ever to go see a doctor and you just went

4:19

to a doctor because you know everything hurts, you just go

4:21

to a regular doctor. But if for

4:24

example, just your finger hurts, then you would

4:26

go to somebody who specializes in just your

4:28

fingers, right? So instead of me doing

4:30

things that involve sleight of hand, now mind you,

4:32

I can do magic, but

4:34

what I've specialized in is magic of the

4:36

mind. So mentalism, there's really not a lot

4:39

of props. It's more a sense

4:42

of reading people, knowing their body language or

4:45

psychology and how to influence them. Most

4:47

mentalists started as magicians, and

4:50

then more and more they got rid of

4:52

the props and they were able, instead of having somebody pick a

4:54

card, they just knew what card they were gonna think of. So

4:58

it's a more unique trade than just

5:00

a magician. That's

5:02

cool. And I'm

5:04

curious what drew you to focus

5:07

on mentalism over

5:09

traditional magic. So

5:12

what happened was as you kind of

5:14

proceed within magic, I would start

5:16

noticing patterns in people. So if you have 500

5:18

people a week, pick a card out of

5:20

a deck of cards, you do it over and over and over. You start

5:23

realizing, oh, this woman, seems like she's in her

5:25

30s, she's friendly, she did this, she did that. I think she's

5:27

gonna go with a heart, and I for

5:29

some reason think she's gonna somehow go for the seven of

5:31

hearts. And I started getting it right more and more. And

5:34

I started realizing this isn't exactly magic, this is a

5:36

different field. And as I got a little bit better

5:38

at it, I slowly got

5:40

more and more into mentalism. It wasn't

5:42

a one day I just became a mentalist, it was

5:44

I'd be about 90% a magician, 10% a mentalist, then

5:47

a year later 50-50. And

5:50

it's something you need to get comfortable with

5:52

because it's very, very difficult at first. So

5:55

what drew me to it was just that it was

5:57

the next step. Think of it as taking magic to

5:59

another. level entirely. When you don't need any

6:01

props, you can just walk into a room with

6:04

nothing and you can freak people out for, you

6:07

know, an hour. Yeah. Is it

6:09

something that anyone can learn? I'm

6:12

sorry? Is it something that anyone can learn

6:14

how to do? So I

6:16

think anyone can learn it, but I'm not certain

6:18

that anyone can become a pro at it. So

6:20

there's a, there might be a limit, kind of

6:23

the same way that there's a talent involved in

6:25

if you're a musician. If you tried

6:27

having me sing, you could teach me for the next five

6:29

years. I will never be, you know,

6:31

Adam Levine or Tony Bennett. I have the worst

6:33

tone and pitch in the world, but some people

6:36

they get on, you know, they play violin and

6:38

they're an expert. They know what they're doing. You

6:40

still need hard work, but you need a talent

6:42

so anybody could learn a few tricks, but

6:45

to really get great at it, it takes some

6:48

sort of talent. Right. Yeah.

6:50

And I'm curious if you and

6:52

other mentalists and magicians work together

6:54

to come up with new tricks.

6:57

Do you? It's

7:00

a very, it's a very helpful

7:02

craft. So you would

7:04

think we were more secretive of the

7:06

public or audiences, but once you attain

7:08

a certain level, you end up being

7:11

friends with a lot of other people that do what you

7:13

do, especially ones that are notable and

7:15

we know each other. And to exactly right, for

7:17

example, on America's Got Talent, a

7:19

lot of the time you have to design a new, entirely

7:21

new, incredible routine in less than a week and you're going

7:23

to be doing it for tens of millions of people. So

7:26

I assure you, we work together, we help each

7:28

other out. Yeah. It's really

7:30

a good strategy because then you

7:34

can learn more things and you can be

7:39

more communicated with other people

7:42

and. And

7:45

celebrate? Yeah. And you

7:47

are bad that you develop a lot of skills like

7:49

that, right? For sure. Like

7:51

you learn more about your craft and you

7:53

practice more. So, oh, tell us a

7:55

little bit more about your experience and America's

7:58

Got Talent. Was

8:00

it always your big dream to

8:03

be an American's Got Talent? I

8:06

have a very good friend, one

8:08

of my best friends, his brother lives

8:10

in Florida and is a huge fan

8:13

of Howard Stern and America's Got Talent for years. He kept telling me, you

8:15

got to go on the show, you got to go on the show, you're

8:17

going to do so great. And then I

8:19

tried out about four years before I got

8:21

on and I didn't make it. And

8:24

then they say, if you

8:26

don't succeed, try, try, try again. So the next year I

8:28

couldn't do it, the next year I couldn't do it, both

8:30

of which years I was working. I had events and

8:34

I think it was three or four years

8:36

later, four seasons later, I went and found

8:39

the time, made it happen, tried out and that was

8:41

the year I made it. So I

8:43

got into the show because he was so excited

8:46

about it and started watching it

8:48

around season seven and was a fan of

8:50

the show. And then as

8:52

a fan of the show, it was very exciting to actually be on

8:55

the show. You always say

8:57

everything happens for a reason and everything happens at

8:59

the right time. And if

9:01

you big dreamers have your big

9:03

dreams and sometimes one door closes.

9:06

And then,

9:08

yeah, if – and

9:10

also like that other kind

9:14

of like saying, if you

9:18

– if like you're on a bike

9:21

and if you fall off six

9:23

times, get up seven.

9:26

Exactly. So, oh,

9:29

can you tell us how did it all

9:31

start for you? Like how did you discover

9:33

this talent? Well,

9:35

I started as a teenager. So when

9:37

I was 13, my family

9:39

went on a cruise. It was kind of a big

9:41

party for my bar mitzvah. Instead of having a party,

9:44

we went on the cruise together. First

9:47

time I ever did that and we all came together. And

9:49

on the cruise ship, there was a magician. I'd never seen

9:51

a magician before in person ever. And

9:54

after that, I was intrigued. I was

9:56

blown away. I got back home. I took

9:58

out and checked out everything. single book at

10:00

the library. I saved

10:02

up some money. I started buying books at Borders,

10:04

which doesn't even exist anymore, but it was like the

10:06

Barnes and Nobles. And I would

10:08

read these books cover to cover again and

10:10

again, practice them for hours and hours and

10:12

hours. There was really no

10:15

shortcut. The best way with

10:17

especially entertainment and with a lot of

10:19

different crafts is you need

10:21

to really commit yourself to it and

10:23

practice, practice, practice. Like you said, you

10:26

learn a lot more from your failures than

10:28

your successes. So like

10:30

you said, six times you fall off the bike, you need to get up 10,

10:32

20, 30 times. You have

10:35

to keep going for it because

10:37

not everything happens quickly. Yeah,

10:39

for sure. And for kids who are

10:41

interested in becoming a magician or maybe

10:44

even a mentalist, what are some good

10:46

first steps? I'm

10:48

a big fan of books. Videos

10:50

are also great, but books allow

10:52

you to interpret them in your

10:54

own way. You know, when you're reading a book, you get

10:56

to use your imagination, you get to fill in the blanks.

10:59

You can create the world yourself. That's what

11:01

I mean, I enjoy reading books almost more

11:03

than seeing the movie of the book always.

11:06

So if you can, you can, you get

11:08

a book, it's much more value. And I

11:10

can give great suggestions for books. I started

11:12

with card tricks. I love card tricks. Then

11:15

I started learning coin tricks. And when you

11:17

learn these, you learn how to apply yourself,

11:19

how to learn sleight of hand and more

11:21

important something called misdirection. misdirection is

11:23

a huge part of magic and a

11:25

big part of mentalism, which is, I

11:28

will make you look over in a

11:30

certain direction, when I'm doing something in

11:33

the other direction. So you're not fooling

11:35

somebody's eyes by moving so fast, you're

11:38

simply making them look away at the

11:40

moment when you're doing something sneaky. And

11:42

that's how so much of magic works. Hmm,

11:45

that's cool. So big dreamers, make

11:48

sure if you're interested in magic,

11:50

start practicing that. And remember, as

11:52

those days always practice, practice, practice

11:54

and don't get discouraged if something

11:57

doesn't work according to your plan.

11:59

But something doesn't work right away.

12:01

Yeah and I'm curious

12:05

what do you

12:07

do when a trip is not going

12:10

according to plan? How

12:12

do you handle that kind of

12:14

situation? Absolutely.

12:17

So that's where you learn the most. Honestly

12:19

not everything always works and if it did

12:21

the show would get very boring especially in

12:23

a mind reading and mentalism show because

12:26

you don't know what's going to happen.

12:28

It's very unpredictable. It's not a card trick

12:30

where you pick one, you put it back and I know how to do the

12:32

move. So a

12:34

lot of the time if you're really sharp

12:36

and you've planned ahead you don't even know

12:38

when something didn't go right if that makes sense.

12:40

Honestly you don't know when it didn't work

12:42

because you don't necessarily know the ending. Do

12:45

you understand what I mean? If I tell you in

12:47

advance here's how it's going to end then you go

12:49

oh okay let's see how it ends. But if you

12:51

watch a movie and you don't know how it's going

12:54

to end and then you watch and they have a

12:56

director's cut. Are you familiar with the director's cut where

12:58

they show here's another ending and another ending and another

13:00

ending and it could have been any of these four

13:02

and you had no idea that that could even exist.

13:05

So when I do a lot of what I

13:07

do there's an element of surprise where you didn't

13:09

see it coming. For example on America's Got Talent

13:11

I did one where I had a jar full

13:13

of gumballs and everyone guessed how many was in

13:15

there and then there's a big reveal on Instagram and

13:18

then the part that you didn't even expect was

13:20

Nick Cannon reached inside. He

13:23

took out and then he took

13:25

out a receipt and on the receipt was printed

13:27

all the numbers they guessed. He's a huge so

13:30

that you didn't even see that coming. I never told you that

13:32

would happen so obviously if that wouldn't work

13:34

it probably I would have never done it but so what

13:36

I'm saying is you don't really know where it's going to

13:38

work where it's going to go and a lot of times

13:40

I don't even mind if things go wrong in a bigger

13:42

show. If you're on TV for

13:45

four minutes yes you don't want it

13:47

to go wrong but it's in a

13:49

longer show not getting things right makes

13:51

everything else seem stronger. I don't mind

13:53

if things don't always go perfectly

13:56

right. People prefer the

13:58

human element. Yeah because that makes it

14:00

kind of more interesting and

14:02

if something goes wrong

14:05

during a performance, there's a really good

14:07

chance that the audience may not even

14:09

notice it. Yeah.

14:12

Absolutely. Yeah, we watched

14:14

a video and

14:23

like Justin Bieber,

14:25

Jennifer Lopez and

14:27

Beyonce and all of them

14:30

were tripping on the

14:32

stage and they just kept on

14:35

singing as if nothing happened. Such

14:37

a good lesson for our big dreamers if

14:39

things don't go perfectly the way you want

14:41

to just keep on going and keep on

14:43

trying the what should called go with the

14:45

flow right Eva? Yeah. That's

14:48

great. So we talked a little

14:50

bit about your journey and

14:53

what is your big dream for

14:55

the future? So

14:58

right now I'm launching a big show in

15:00

New York it's called Truth Be Told. We

15:02

sold out all the tickets. We

15:05

just ended last week and it was such a

15:07

huge hit and there's so many hundreds of people

15:09

that couldn't get tickets that we're gonna continue it

15:11

in January and we're moving to an even bigger

15:13

theater. So that's the

15:16

dream that's on the horizon right? That's not the big

15:18

dream. The other big dream is just to continue doing

15:21

big TV appearances which I've done non-stop

15:23

since America's Got Talent and hopefully get my

15:25

own TV show. So that's really what I'm

15:28

working on so strongly

15:30

and with all my efforts right now

15:32

and that's I I can't want

15:34

to let you in anything yet but there's definitely big

15:36

things coming up in 2018. That's

15:39

exciting. Yeah. I've been watching we're big

15:41

fans. Terrific. And

15:43

how do you think the skills of being

15:46

a magician or mentalist can

15:48

help you in other areas in life?

15:51

I think I've always been a big big

15:54

proponent of learning magic tricks

15:57

no matter what even if you don't want to be a magician

15:59

or a mentalist Everybody loves magic

16:01

people love to be amazed when

16:03

i was growing up i did magic on

16:05

the side and then after i went to

16:07

school i went to the university of michigan

16:09

i didn't study magic i study the electrical

16:11

engineering i worked on wall street afterwards go

16:14

figure i was not on the fast track to be

16:16

an entertainer this was something i did on the side

16:18

to pay for college and

16:20

to do these other things why

16:23

do i mention this when i would go into an interview and

16:26

somebody interviews me and they're interviewing those thirty people

16:29

that day what sets you apart on

16:31

my resume it's that professional magician.

16:34

And people look at that go what do you mean

16:36

your professional magician i go at the end if we

16:38

have a minute let me show you something and i

16:40

can assure you every single interview matter what i was

16:42

interviewing for if i did something incredible at the end

16:44

of that. Interview their

16:47

hands goodbye they. We're

16:49

gonna remember me more than every other one of

16:51

those people that are gonna be there and that's

16:53

not just for job interview that's life if you

16:55

have something fun that can break the

16:57

tension that can break the ice. In

17:00

any situation whether you're getting a job whether

17:02

you're at school whether you wanna meet new

17:04

people you wanna make friends all of those

17:06

things magic is a great way to

17:08

do that. For a

17:11

lot of people that tend to be shy

17:13

especially teenagers kids. I found that

17:15

it's a great way to open up your personality

17:17

to allow you to get instant feedback from people

17:19

where they smile they laugh they like you and

17:22

then you transition you don't just keep doing magic, but it

17:24

allows you to break the ice like I said so.

17:27

yeah. A lot of times it can

17:29

be a smile or joke so far

17:32

because in little dreamers out there it's

17:34

good to have couple of those cheeks

17:36

in your sleeves. yeah and you can

17:39

you can just pick up the

17:41

fun skill and it'll entertain your

17:43

friends and also if

17:47

it can help you be more confident and

17:49

help you succeed in life

17:51

generally because you'll gain confidence be

17:54

a better communicator and know how

17:56

to connect with an audience. Exactly.

17:59

Absolutely. And if you want to

18:01

pick up some tricks, there's a great website. It's

18:03

a bunch of my friends from college started it

18:05

became huge It's the biggest online

18:07

magic retailer. They're called penguin

18:10

magic calm Christmas

18:12

Hanukkah is coming up if anybody's looking for

18:14

exactly as you said a few cheap easy

18:16

tricks to learn for beginners That site is

18:18

incredible. That's the one I always recommend I'm

18:21

sure your little and big dreamers would love it if

18:24

they do have that magic bug where they want to

18:26

learn a few tricks That's one of the great ones.

18:28

They had the books the videos and they have actually

18:30

little tricks that you can learn There's videos with them

18:32

that teach you how to do them Yeah

18:41

We have more questions and we would

18:44

like to ask you first

18:46

of all is When it

18:48

like what is your favorite

18:50

magic tree today? Do

18:53

you have any? It's

18:55

very difficult to say, you know It all depends

18:57

on the situation the setting a lot

18:59

of the things I did in America's Got Talent because

19:01

they were for such a Vast audience where I knew

19:03

tens of millions of people around the world were watching

19:05

them I was quite proud of especially

19:07

some of the ones that were original that I created for

19:09

the show that no one's ever done before My

19:13

finale was with these colored chairs. I don't

19:15

want to spoil it, but it was

19:17

really different and unique No one's ever done anything

19:19

like that on that show before And

19:22

it was risky So

19:24

that's the other thing people watching it didn't realize that it

19:26

was a very dangerous routine to do because it could go

19:28

wrong And it was big risk

19:30

big reward. So I really went for it and

19:33

I was quite proud of that That's

19:35

definitely one of my favorites Well,

19:42

let's try something fun so Eva I

19:44

want you to imagine a globe can

19:46

you picture a globe? Yeah,

19:50

and you know how they're gonna have all the continents

19:52

now don't say anything but imagine you spin the globe

19:54

and it's mostly water of course and Eva

19:57

you spin it around you spin it fast and then you

19:59

let it slow down and then

20:02

you bring your finger and you stop on one

20:04

very specific city. Now this

20:06

place really important. You've never been there before.

20:08

So that's really important. The place that

20:10

I want you to focus on is one you haven't

20:12

been there before. Is that correct? I want to make

20:15

sure. Yeah. And I

20:17

want you to go there and imagine that you're in

20:19

that place and you're looking around and you're spinning around

20:21

and you're looking here, you're looking there. Are

20:24

there things that you would recognize in that city or is

20:26

it completely new to you? Or have you ever read about

20:28

it or seen it in the movies? It's

20:32

completely new to me. So

20:35

I want you to imagine that somebody walks up

20:37

to you and they can't believe their eyes. They

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go, Oh my goodness, it's Eva Carpine. I

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listen to your podcast every day and they come up

20:43

and they speak to you and don't say anything, but

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think of the language. If you could understand it, if

20:48

you can't see, I know that you can understand the

20:50

language. I could tell right there. You didn't pause or

20:52

anything. I think this

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person speaks English. I

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think that this person speaks English in a

20:58

different accent. This is in England. Are you

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thinking of London? Yes. That's

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so cool. Did you ever tell me that? Did

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you tell anyone other, I mean, maybe your mom or

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your dad, obviously, but did you ever tell me or

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anything before we got on the phone? There's no way

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I could have known that. Could I? No,

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no way. Let's

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imagine when you mentioned, how

21:20

do you learn magic? And I said, imagine that

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you have a book and that you read books about

21:24

it in videos. Now imagine that you have a book

21:27

and that you flip open this book and you rip

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out a word on a page. And

21:31

that word is one that you've been thinking of

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and you don't even know why you picked it

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and you can see it. And Eva

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doesn't even know what word it is, does she? Okay.

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Can you think of the first

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letter? Don't say the first letter, but think of it right now.

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Yep. Have you got it? Yep. Now

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there's two different kinds of letters. There's

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vowels and there's consonants, right? A E I O

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U. Can you say that for me? Say A

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E I O U. A

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E I O U. Okay,

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you got a little excited at the end.

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I wonder, the word you're thinking of, it doesn't start

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with a vowel, does it? No.

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Okay, I did. Okay, go. And now, imagine

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the other ones. So when I say the

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other ones, the other letters are of course

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going to be A B

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C D E F G H I J K L M N O

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P Q R S T U V W X Y N Z minus

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the A E I O U. The

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first letter of your word.

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It's very difficult on the phone. Think of the last letter. Can you

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do that for me? Think of the last letter. Yeah.

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It's not a D, is it? No.

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Okay, go back to the first letter. N,

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N. It's not an N, is it? And

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then, I don't know, I don't know the

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second letter. Go back to the first again. Tell me

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that first letter. Say it out loud. C.

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C? Yeah. Like,

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C, like Charlie, is that right? Yeah. And

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then, go back. I don't, see, I thought, she's thinking

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of a city, but I think yours is more to

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do with an

23:07

action. And the word,

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it's an O C O N

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S constantly. Is the word constantly?

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Oh my gosh, that's

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so cool. I

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try to say, usually I can get the, if we

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were in person, I could tell you the first letter

23:27

instantly, but when we're here, I'm just listening to your

23:30

reactions. I can't see your face. It's a hundred times

23:32

harder over the phone. That's so

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cool. And the fact that you

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even, um, gets like the

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accent of, um, in London,

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like, I was actually

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like the first time, like you said, I

23:45

like caught on the accent

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really quickly. First,

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we never ever talked

23:52

about it. We never

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discussed that. Yeah. Like

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I knew it was a favorite. city

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I thought she might get that

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yeah because I never been to

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London before well

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you'll have to do it London's a

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beautiful city yeah magic

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tricks right and the word

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action is perfect for practicing

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it's coming it's constantly yeah

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you do it constantly yes

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so back to our conversation

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if you want to learn

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something and be as

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magical as always is

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so practice it constantly

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yeah that's amazing

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bravo thank you

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so much absolutely

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it was such a pleasure I can't wait to listen to it

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and I love what you're doing keep

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it up so the best

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place is going to be either my

24:56

website or on social media because everybody's

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on Facebook on Instagram you know on

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Twitter I post quite

25:02

often it's at owes the mentalist so if you

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want to look me up it's OZ

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the mentalist and

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then my website is owes Perlman

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calm OZ P E AR L

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M A N calm trail post

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it I'm on the today show

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quite often on TV on NBC and

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I post all the things I want on my YouTube

25:22

channel and on my Instagram and you can see

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all my TV stuff there's dozens and dozens you

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can waste hours watching me

25:29

read people's minds okay

25:31

awesome and for a last question

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to wrap up the interview so

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I jumped in and asked her

25:37

question but you were going what's

25:39

the craziest thing a fan said

25:42

to you so I

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have a lot of people that when they see my

25:47

show because it's like you said it's

25:49

it tends to be extraordinary especially when you do

25:51

things that are very in-depth where I tell people

25:54

things that they swear not even their parents

25:56

would know not even their brothers and sisters would

25:58

know things that are so secretive They go, there's

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no way you could have known that. People will think I'm psychic

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and I am not psychic. It's a

26:05

skill that you can learn. It's not

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a supernatural ability. So people will

26:09

just come up to me and they will ask me to

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talk to dead people and they'll tell me what are the

26:13

lottery numbers. I've gotten a lot of crazy requests. And

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I usually tell you, I can't do that. I'm so sorry if I

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could win the lottery, I would have done it by now. I swear

26:20

if I could, I would have won by now. So

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that's one of the most popular ones.

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Thank you. You are very magical.

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Yeah. Thank you. And

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Big Dreamers definitely follow Oz and

26:33

his magic tricks and his performances

26:35

and look out for the sold

26:38

out shows and his occurrences on

26:40

TV. We will be following

26:42

you and one day we will meet you

26:44

in person. Yeah. Wonderful. I hope

26:46

to see you here in New York or maybe in your

26:49

area. All

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right, bye Olga. Bye Eva. Bye. How

26:55

amazing was that episode, Big Dreamers? Oz

26:58

is truly magical. And we were so

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excited to introduce him to all of

27:03

you. Big Dreamers, I

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hope you enjoyed this episode as much

27:07

as we enjoyed recording it with Eva.

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Wasn't Oz amazing? I

27:13

still don't understand how did he

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read our mind over the phone.

27:18

All the show notes that

27:21

we mentioned in this episode,

27:23

you can find at dreambicpodcast.com/412.

27:27

And of course, don't forget to follow

27:29

us on social media and all the

27:32

links we mentioned will be in the

27:34

description of this episode. I

27:36

hope you have a great time with us and

27:39

for the next few weeks, we

27:42

will be broadcasting more of our

27:44

favorite interviews and then Sophia

27:46

will be back from camp with new

27:48

stories, new adventures, ready to

27:51

rock and roll and share with

27:53

you her wisdom. Thank

27:55

you so much for tuning in. This is

27:57

Eva Cartman reminding you that yeah.

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limited potential. Your dreams are not

28:02

optional, you need to make them

28:04

essential. So take massive action

28:06

to turn those big dreams into reality.

28:09

Live with passion the way life is

28:11

meant to be. I'll see

28:13

you in the next episode. Bye!