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Dress The history of fashion as a

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We are Battlestar Years and your

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hosts Castries Angry and April Callahan

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Dress Us Nurse. We are back

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today with Part Two. Of

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our investigation of the work

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of the artist interior decorator, fashion

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and textile designer song Yeah

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Dylan A. She. Was really

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truly one of the most important

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creators at during the twentieth century,

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and her work spent more than

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sixty years. And. While she

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is mostly remember today as a painter

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and also a founder of the art

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movement known as Simultaneous, I'm. A.

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Groundbreaking new exhibition at the Bard Graduate

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Center in New York City is taking

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a closer look. At her creative

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output in the realm of fashion and

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textiles On be A through July Seven

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Twenty Twenty Four the exhibitions on your

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Delany Living or it was Coker it

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it Bible area dora go back. And

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Laura micro list. And while Laura wasn't

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able to join us, Valeria chatted with

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us earlier this week to tell us

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about Sonia background, her obsession and incredible

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work with color as well as the

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diversity of her creative expression. And

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today we are going to learn a little

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bit more about her work and the realm

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of fashion, textiles and tapestries. So without further

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ado we picked back up with our conversation

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with full area. There's. A

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really Wonderful Quotes in your book

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In it's one of our clients

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describing the experience. Of walking

1:43

into her fashion world right? I'm

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gonna read it if I can

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as as quote you enter her

1:49

home she says she addresses furniture

1:52

designs for furniture, designs for dresses.

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They. Do not look like anything you

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can find the could raise or at

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the exhibitions. And truth they are new

2:01

things, but the impression of newness that

2:03

is typically it accompanied by an mistrust

2:05

is not here. Simply optimistic. Son.

2:08

And on a dresses and she dresses

2:10

and the strictest sense she designs but

2:12

we see designs is not address. Not

2:14

a scarf but a new creature. And

2:17

I just love this quote so

2:19

much about about her fashion work

2:21

and and conceptualizing it with the

2:23

furniture with all these other creations

2:25

that she's making. Shit.

2:27

Pretty much a full fledged fashion designer at

2:30

this point? So. You just

2:32

mentioned that you could go into the American department stores

2:34

and can get fat if you get a scarf. What

2:37

types of clothing where she making and

2:39

out, what was her process and who

2:41

were some of her notable customers? If

2:43

there. Are any. So.

2:46

Son and alone as a fashion

2:48

designer is quite an interesting phenomenon

2:51

because. As. I mentioned she

2:53

had a drop of fashion brands

2:55

and the company that advertised internationally

2:57

and was fairly well known. But.

2:59

She certainly didn't watch the same

3:02

way. As other miss on to could

3:04

chew. On the she was conducting

3:06

a business. In the

3:08

much more informal and

3:10

personal manner and festival.

3:13

She didn't have a business venue. But operators

3:15

from her living room. And you

3:18

you're wonderful. Quote said

3:20

describes precisely. That experience

3:22

entering the the apartments.

3:24

Where the family lives at Without my

3:27

that and. She. Woods you

3:29

would. You would sit in their living

3:31

room and she would present you thing

3:33

but she didn't adhere to the seasonal

3:35

system. awful for to the which means.

3:37

That she didn't really. So. during

3:40

what we would now call fashion Week

3:42

and she didn't make seasonal collection. But

3:44

it was all. Much

3:47

much more informal and. It's

3:49

happening And home. And

3:51

your clients who are many

3:53

friends are generally people. With.

3:55

An artistic occupation. They.

3:58

Would visitor and whatever they like. Whether.

4:01

It was something she had just come up with or

4:03

an older. Design she would make for them

4:05

and she mostly source the fabrics. Were.

4:09

In. Our heads have them ordered after her

4:11

designs, but you can also bring her fabric

4:13

that you found elsewhere. And then

4:15

she would have a caught by professional

4:17

ends give it to had rider or

4:19

silk painter and. Then she would

4:22

have the client come for several fittings.

4:24

That makes the sale with everybody else.

4:26

Glad. In their home. She.

4:29

Supplied with. This. And commission like

4:31

making an embroidery. We'd.

4:33

So know. A lot

4:35

about how the business walk to

4:37

the twenties because it's channel that

4:39

I mentioned. Begins. And Nineteen

4:41

Thirty three. But we do know that.

4:44

She. Hired of financial advisor

4:46

and manager and nineteen twenty six

4:49

when. The whole

4:51

business really takes off. His name was Jack Jack

4:53

Mon but he left her in the same year.

4:55

And. Then this role was occupied by

4:58

somebody called Zoc which was. And

5:00

she is really interesting figure because

5:03

she was a well known engineer

5:05

who was a great intellectual and.

5:08

Pioneer. In. Rationalist.

5:11

Business. Development. so he wanted

5:13

to. Take her business and

5:15

it's. And modernize it

5:17

and make it more efficient. And he

5:19

wants to sign contracts? Department stores

5:21

and make this line more accessible.

5:24

But. She was completely against these ideas

5:26

because she wanted to retain full

5:28

control. Over everything and. The.

5:30

Result of this was set to Fashion

5:33

House as opposed. To the textile business.

5:35

Didn't make much money, but it was

5:37

really great advertising for everything else. She.

5:40

Did for the interior design commissions

5:42

and where the text of obviously.

5:45

And all her decorating job

5:47

time. And funny Liaison

5:49

Couture himself was a great lion

5:51

because he's worth of the garments

5:53

by Sony and she also made

5:56

mens wear. But. She also

5:58

decorated his apartments in there. The

6:00

Ninety Thirties, and his wife Annette

6:02

could swoop boards dresses from Sanya

6:04

on a regular basis. And two

6:06

of those. Are. Actually in our

6:08

exhibition, one of them is. Really?

6:10

Beautiful. It's hand painted with

6:12

Dallas now or senses. You.

6:15

Can see how much. How much

6:17

artistic effort goes into the creations and

6:19

you asked about famous clients? I would

6:22

say that some of the more famous

6:24

ones were. App will lead

6:26

box were awesome. the photographer to

6:28

nice but make. Birds. That

6:30

the most famous that people know us.

6:32

As probably Gloria Swanson who had a.

6:35

Codes. And the fondues job

6:37

technique. Made in Nineteen Twenty Six. Out.

6:40

There are so beautiful and you have

6:42

an an example an exhibition at that

6:44

point as your embroidery in it. Or

6:47

even know how to begin to describe it except for

6:49

the fact that. It looks like

6:51

it's painting, but you know

6:53

it's not paid. His embroidery

6:56

at. That it almost looks like

6:58

brushstrokes that have been embroidered on to. The.

7:00

Said exactly like. It. Does

7:02

reunions an exhibition we have. To

7:05

earn. The. Earliest known objects

7:08

that. Survives.

7:11

Which. Is an embroidery from nineteen or nine

7:13

which is. It's. Not

7:15

an embroidery and it's not a painting.

7:18

It's something in between and earns. It's

7:20

exactly that. that she tried to use

7:22

the stitches like she would use across.

7:25

Wheel. And I think blessings of very interesting

7:27

that comes up again and again. And.

7:29

And various essays and the exhibition

7:32

catalogue. Is. Dawn a his

7:34

willingness as as a as people

7:36

have phrased it to engage in

7:39

these new methods and transmission. We

7:42

just a little bit more to that the

7:44

other. I think that the point is, you're

7:47

kind of might be one of those things

7:49

that minutes is radiates outwards and I also

7:51

would love it if you would speak about

7:53

some the incredibly rare Sasson films that are

7:55

featured in the exhibition. This

7:59

whole. He I mentioned

8:01

a few times said Sonia was

8:03

very aware of the needs to

8:05

promote yourself in various ways and

8:07

like she did in the night

8:09

and twenty five exhibition or with

8:11

the simultaneous dress that. Photographed.

8:14

And publicize. Widely.

8:17

And. Somebody who was generally

8:19

for sandy fascinated by all

8:22

kinds of logical developments and

8:24

embraced all new media. She

8:26

realized that. Much. Of

8:29

it was something that could be used

8:31

to have advantage on. The most obvious

8:33

examples are fashion photography or. Dressing and

8:35

actress for that role in film.

8:38

For. Example and Nineteen Twenty Six. She was

8:40

hired by the director when indecency to

8:43

work on the still new to buy

8:45

gold for which she. Applied to

8:47

Stop and Costume and black and whites

8:49

and what's really interesting assess because she

8:52

knows that she's working for a monochrome

8:54

media. She designs them in black and

8:56

white to get this. Optical.

8:59

Genetic effects that he wouldn't have

9:01

a few was just using. On

9:04

the fall or regular color

9:06

dresses. And all of these

9:08

designs with something that. You could purchase

9:10

at the same time as a studio so

9:13

it's. Pretty. Much product placement

9:15

national. But.

9:17

Been most remarkable use a film

9:20

by Saniora is the Coliseum of

9:22

Nineteen Twenty Six, the so called

9:24

hello Julian. Film. It

9:26

is. It is not really

9:28

some with analysis it as a

9:31

sequence of different scenes that altogether.

9:33

Are. Minutes long and made

9:35

with a rather costly and

9:38

complicated technique that. Is

9:40

able to projects a real and natural

9:42

color. Which, of course, very attractive

9:44

to her. And she uses to message

9:46

to Sue to fashioned film that

9:48

is. Absolutely. Fascinating

9:51

not only because you can

9:53

see how the design. Work.

9:55

In movement but because also you

9:58

can see how she combine. Her

10:00

color theory with promoting the

10:02

fashion. In one scene, for

10:04

example, there's a mannequin wearing a blue

10:06

dress and she stands on a pedestal.

10:09

And front of an orange background. And then

10:11

she steps down a couple of steps and

10:13

takes off the top layer of her outfits.

10:16

And that reveals or and stress.

10:18

In which she steps in front of blue background.

10:24

So you've never been a performance are it's

10:26

all things in the same time. Completely.

10:29

Or in a different scene you

10:31

have a mannequin in an orange

10:33

and black dress which hands and

10:35

life sized grayscale. That looks like a

10:37

giant. We'll as nods you the circle as

10:39

a symbol of done as he but also

10:42

the color scheme earth the color scale as

10:44

a tool for painters. And

10:46

this film was used by her

10:48

in January of Nineteen Twenty Sevens

10:50

You showed during lectures she gave

10:52

at the So Been on the

10:54

influence of painting on fashion design.

10:57

It was pretty much a

10:59

powerpoint presentation for it was

11:01

nord. So. It's it's.

11:03

really perfect illustration of. A

11:05

Policy A Read butts. shown.

11:07

On Fasten and Film was something

11:09

that she continued to be so.

11:11

Excited about even in old

11:14

age! In. Or exhibition.

11:16

On the first floor we have an art

11:18

film that was shot by but six in

11:20

one who worked for Sanya in the nineteen

11:22

seventies and was hot. The. Absolute

11:25

pleasure speaking lot to him and

11:27

meeting him. And he told us how.

11:29

In. Nineteen Seventy Two, He created

11:31

the swag. For. Which she

11:33

was able to suits Sonia masterpieces

11:36

and Paris and New York. And

11:39

he added to dumb he edited

11:41

some she was sequence of moving

11:43

stills. And then he showed

11:45

this to Sanya and silent version

11:47

and record it's. What she could

11:50

tell about these things and then edited

11:52

her voice soon and mix it with

11:54

music that she loves and. The.

11:56

Result is this varies from t twenty.

11:58

Minutes Retrospective. For wagons.

12:00

Very much of the time, but. You.

12:03

Know she was. She was in her

12:05

late eighties that. The. Time but she realized that

12:07

this film which was shown of Paris

12:09

and prices in this very popular as

12:12

a great way of promoting her walk.

12:14

Yeah. Yeah, it never stopped and

12:16

never stand. And. One

12:19

of the things that she was also engaging

12:21

and if I'm understanding correctly a little bit

12:23

later in her life are continuing to engage

12:25

in. And is for chip

12:27

is trees and isn't really

12:29

spoken about this. Tunis beans

12:31

their textile related of course.

12:34

I'm Laura wrote an entire chapter

12:36

and the exhibition catalogue on Sunniest

12:38

Papa Stories. And I think

12:40

that the top issues are very,

12:43

very interesting because they do at

12:45

once again sit at that intersection

12:47

of painting, interior design, fashion design,

12:50

Which. Has become a little bit about her tapestry.

12:52

Where am I what I would love to learn

12:54

more. Yes, Absolutely bad. Laura

12:56

chapter is my favorite chapter in the book

12:58

and sacked. Tapestries were

13:01

medium that Sanyo engaged

13:03

with. On. The in the late

13:05

two decades of Who Lives. And.

13:07

They have fun. Actually a major

13:10

media for many of whom guards

13:12

artists in the interwar period. For

13:14

example, because sorely called busy or.

13:17

Some. All dizzy and this

13:19

is thanks to. Money.

13:21

With to leave Who was a friend

13:23

of Sonos and who a friend your

13:25

and the tapestry revival of the nineteen

13:27

thirties. But. At this early stage

13:30

and even though they were friends even

13:32

though they were friends. Sarnia, Did

13:34

not have any tapestries produced after

13:36

the sketch of Stand in the

13:38

Night that She's but she did

13:40

creed rugs and and carpets. Who

13:42

leads you. That sea creatures.

13:45

Tapestries didn't really occupy her

13:47

until the late nineteen fifties

13:49

and see started working with

13:51

three work sought to produce

13:54

tapestries in the late fifties.

13:56

This. Was the attribute about In or

13:59

Be So, which is the historical

14:01

center for tapestry weaving and France.

14:04

And is was initiated. By

14:06

the gallerist a dentist in they've who

14:08

approach so new. And then

14:10

she was commissioned by the French stayed

14:12

in the nineteen sixties to design tapestries

14:15

that were proven at the good law

14:17

and will they have for the mood

14:19

billion Us and nine and Paris which

14:21

is the. Administration and.

14:24

Repository for all this state

14:26

owned bondage earned rocks and

14:28

tapestries zigzag. And

14:30

then in the nineteen seventies she

14:32

labrie does on a series of

14:34

tapestries with To Install which is

14:37

a privately owned company. And

14:39

an exhibition. We have this really

14:41

magnificent lots tapestry of woven by

14:43

Beauvais and night she'd seventy five

14:45

and it is on loan from

14:47

the more billion us to nine.

14:50

And next to it you have

14:52

the cartoon so that design. Sketch for

14:54

it's that was used to make it. And

14:57

to see them together, it's

14:59

quite the Newman aging to

15:01

understand that tapestries. Were

15:03

the perfect medium for Sanya at

15:05

the time because. Not only

15:07

are they. Woven. Bowl which

15:10

is something I'm sorry naturally to. ah.

15:12

But. Also because they allow how to

15:15

prepare a glass on a very small

15:17

scale that can then be transformed into

15:19

something that suits that is a monumental

15:21

work of art. And. That's not

15:24

an unimportant aspect, because. Say

15:26

in the seventies? She's. Of

15:28

an advanced age where she cannot

15:30

really handle very large canvases anymore.

15:32

But she's really. Keen to

15:34

explore the relationship between art and

15:36

architecture is she always was. And

15:39

the tapestries. Or something that

15:41

allows. Had to continue this. Exploration

15:43

of space and. You.

15:46

Know she was. She was so interested

15:48

in the relationship between the wall and

15:50

the author. An attempt. Tossing

15:53

for this and she was really actively involved

15:55

in their production and she understood the whole

15:57

process wet which is why she was a.

16:00

You. To create

16:02

the perfect design. And then of course.

16:05

Tapestry. Weaving has a

16:07

centuries long tradition and heritage

16:09

and France and. Up Something that

16:11

must have had a great p on Sanya. And.

16:14

For the state run workshops, it was

16:16

great to have an artist of the

16:19

Libor because they struggled to modernize the

16:21

production and fight against the. Idea

16:23

that tapestries was something that

16:25

was. Of. The past

16:28

and. What's. Really

16:30

curious is that Sanya tapestries was

16:32

something that made her. Really well

16:34

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16:37

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like the with boss she

20:59

begins working. With mosaics in

21:01

nineteen Fifty. Flourish. She paints a

21:03

great deal of work. She. Still Designs

21:05

Textiles says read such run into

21:08

same time. In

21:10

the nineteen fifties, she

21:12

begins to receive serious

21:14

international recognition. And. In.

21:16

Nineteen Sixty Eight I mentioned that

21:19

she was given fast. Major.

21:21

Retrospective and below said and Germany which

21:23

was to raise his bike with stuff

21:25

reason for. Had actually met

21:27

her because she wanted to write a book

21:29

on for bad but then he kings you

21:31

have. A and.

21:34

Saw what she was doing and decided that

21:36

he asked to walk with her now and

21:38

that that was something he really wants to

21:40

do and what was special. but this exhibition

21:43

the said. It was probably

21:45

the first to show the full

21:47

range of all aware. Of.

21:49

The object together. We decided that he

21:51

asked to walk with her now and that

21:53

that was something he really wants to do

21:56

and what was special. but this exhibition the

21:58

said. It. Was probably the

22:00

fast to show the full range

22:02

of all aware. Of. The

22:04

object together with the paintings

22:06

and drawings snow was was

22:09

quite boards. As a curatorial

22:11

decision, And only after

22:13

this exhibition and Germany. Her walk

22:15

was shown more and more and France and see

22:18

how to be done. Making. Donations

22:20

of how work but also bass.

22:22

Work to state elections.

22:26

One. Example was. Her donation

22:28

to them is innocent I download out

22:30

in the nineteen sixty. Four which was.

22:33

Exhibited at the New Flu and you

22:35

can. On. Line for. Example

22:37

Often find the note that Sonia was the

22:39

fast living woman to read to receiver it

22:41

respect to that you look at. This was

22:43

actually not the case. This was. A

22:46

group of. Just over one hundred

22:48

works by both don't on a. That.

22:51

Were casserly selected by Sarnia and

22:53

it was presented at the move

22:55

well as this. Important.

22:57

Gifts to of knowledge

22:59

and celebrate their generosity.

23:03

Two things that are important

23:05

about this. From

23:08

a strategic points of view is.

23:11

Vastly. That she begins solidifying

23:13

for legacy in the official history

23:15

of French. Art By giving these

23:18

major works to. A. National

23:20

Museum of Modern Art. And

23:22

secondly, she starts building a

23:24

very good relationship to seats.

23:26

The influential figures like for

23:28

example. The. Minister of Culture of Pass

23:30

on to be mindful. And. In

23:32

the course of the sixties and seventies,

23:34

this relationship to the stage. Roofs

23:37

very useful because it facilitates

23:39

some of the major retrospective

23:41

said she has. But more

23:43

importantly, And. I think that she

23:45

enjoyed this greatly is. Made. Hope.

23:47

A real superstar in the history of

23:49

friends are it's because at once she

23:52

was recognized as. A pioneer

23:54

of obstruction that somebody who

23:56

fiverr revolutionized art and the

23:58

early twentieth century. And

24:00

new people like. Less. On

24:02

the road ends up when you now but

24:04

at the same time she celebrated. As

24:07

a contemporary artist who exhibit.

24:09

Week when to the ends and

24:11

represents France and. In the

24:14

exhibition of Bgc we have one black that

24:16

is. Emblematic of this. Which

24:18

is painting that. As. Us Pompidou

24:20

the French president gave to Richard Nixon

24:23

and masochist and Nineteen Seventy and that's

24:25

a big deal. Very.

24:28

Big Me out. So. The Nineteen

24:30

sixties and Nineteen seventies. when some

24:32

yet she's already in her eighties

24:35

and nineties. Are a huge

24:37

sleep productive period and she really

24:39

enjoys. The same but is also

24:41

full of excitement for a new

24:44

avenues of promotion and of artistic

24:46

production that she witnessed sense in

24:48

Mans. in the mid

24:51

nineteen sixties she also meets Zoc

24:53

dumb ass. Pool was gallerist and

24:55

and as a similar and to

24:57

to have some begin walking. On.

24:59

Money on Sex Together for

25:01

example, limited edition art books

25:03

that. Reproduce. Poetry.

25:07

From. Her friends with her own

25:09

bomb and suave and designs

25:11

and composition. And. One

25:13

of these works for example is this

25:15

gigantic local radio with have Passion costume

25:18

design said. Folds out to

25:20

the length of several meters them that's

25:22

and the exhibition and. The.

25:25

They also produce litter graphs and

25:27

work with the Arterial Gallery, where.

25:30

You. Know anybody could go and

25:32

buy Sonia scars and the nineteen

25:34

seventies or played than damages. Additions

25:36

were no household objects. And.

25:39

This was the time of course when

25:41

art multiples or something that matches and

25:43

that's very popular. And I

25:45

think that she really profited from the

25:48

fact that the Nineteen twenties were fashionable

25:50

in the sixties and seventies. And

25:52

she said himself that Have

25:54

Whacked. Came. Forty years too

25:56

early. And she was right, because everything

25:59

that. She had done in the. Twenty Four Two years

26:01

later, felt. Really? Contemporary and modern

26:03

and. Just. As when

26:05

she was young, she was still

26:07

really unpretentious about this idea. us

26:09

high and low arts and it

26:11

was great fun for hard to

26:13

design thing like playing cards or

26:15

sports car or. A. Vinyl records.

26:17

Leaf was some musically. She.

26:20

Really push this idea for the

26:22

playing cards for example and wanted

26:24

them to be produced because she

26:26

knew that that was something small

26:29

and accessible. That was great marketing

26:31

for. Everything. Else that she did. Not.

26:33

Now my mind is this going wild

26:35

thinking about getting on E Bay and

26:37

seem falcon search out some of these

26:39

very very fine dell on a quote

26:41

unquote everyday objects. Are. You can

26:43

you guarantee that that? that? You.

26:47

Have an aura of course

26:49

have this incredibly in depth.

26:51

Wealth of knowledge and and in

26:53

particular ensues some of these new

26:56

realms. Of Dylan is over that

26:58

other people haven't worked on. I'm

27:00

curious if you have any thoughts

27:02

about her artistic legacy. Or.

27:04

Perhaps it there any. Take away

27:07

his are significant discoveries that that you want

27:09

to mention that we haven't already talked about.

27:12

Well. I'm I'm probably

27:14

extremely biased because in the past

27:17

four years I've pretty much but

27:19

every single day with her. but

27:21

I think that's truly very few

27:23

visual arches of the twentieth century

27:26

hot comparable influence to pass. She's

27:28

changed so much, she's changed so

27:30

much bastion, and she still inspires

27:32

designers and. In. Fashion but

27:34

also an interior design. Until

27:36

this day, she completely redefined

27:38

the relationship between. Fine. Arts

27:41

and all other disciplines that

27:43

are supposedly nowhere and sea.

27:45

Change. The way that an arduous.

27:48

Could save their own legacy and.

27:50

Speed, this influential force and

27:52

countless feels and. To

27:55

me really, she's a role model and

27:57

so many ways she was. Extremely

27:59

says. Cern. She was a

28:01

highly intelligent individual. Would.

28:03

Always act on her intuition and

28:06

she was berries. We have spirits

28:08

a great intellectual and she. Managed.

28:11

at the same time to express himself

28:13

and very accessible way. Whether it

28:15

was to was or through color. And.

28:18

She had the most impressive work ethic which

28:20

I think made a very. Successful.

28:23

And despite all these. Tremendous.

28:25

Achievement and this exceptional

28:27

career and same. That she

28:29

enjoyed. I think that's. The. Most

28:31

important aspect about what spree

28:34

to set everything The so

28:36

joyful. You look at her odds

28:38

and ends. Anything, whether

28:40

it was made in Nineteen Thirteen or

28:42

Nineteen Seventy Three is just so full

28:45

of lies and seems completely timeless. And.

28:47

I don't think that many artists of

28:49

the twentieth century have achieved body of

28:51

work that touches the. The general

28:54

public, So. Much later on

28:56

a level of pure joy. Yeah, absolutely

28:58

I had. I am a signed up

29:00

for another day who was having a

29:02

hard time and I'm like you are

29:04

going to do and I. I've already

29:06

seen it twice. But when you get

29:08

back I'm gonna take you to the

29:10

Senate Delany Exhibition. And it was that

29:12

very reason has there's something that is

29:14

something very emotional when you walk into

29:16

that exhibition. You can't. Walk. Out

29:18

and not feel something. I

29:21

completely agree. and I think that

29:23

is that has to do with

29:26

the fact that whatever she did,

29:28

she was so independent from her

29:30

surroundings. Yet she was inspired by

29:32

many things like technology or model

29:34

lies, but at the same time.

29:36

Everything that's created came.

29:39

From. Her in the cell and. That.

29:42

You can see across her work, across

29:44

her body of work said. It's

29:47

almost like this organic and city

29:49

where everything is connected with each

29:51

other and that is so tungsten

29:54

all to. Her. As.

29:56

Soon. As. A human

29:59

being and. I think the that the

30:01

origin of this. This. Of

30:03

the soy. Yeah. Well or

30:05

at home. So much for your time.

30:08

More importantly, thank you so much for

30:10

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30:23

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30:25

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30:27

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30:30

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30:32

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30:34

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30:36

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30:38

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