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This episode includes instances
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of police violence, harassment,
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racism, and assault. Please
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take care while listening. Mi
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daqui api. Hi hani washtay. Chante
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washtay nape chus api. Ohitika wi miena
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an white hat machi a pi kshto.
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Relatives, I greet you today with
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a heartfelt handshake in my beautiful
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Lakota language. I'm Si-Changul Lakota
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from Rosebud, South Dakota, and a resident
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of the state of Louisiana. As a
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mother, I never intended to get arrested.
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However, on September 18, 2018,
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I was arrested and charged with two
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felony counts under new amendments
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to Louisiana's critical infrastructure law. I
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was facing up to 10 years in prison. I
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was told that I was being arrested for
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trespassing two weeks prior on remote land being
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worked on by the pipeline company in the
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Atchafalaya Basin, despite my having
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the express permission of the landowners to
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peacefully protest there. That
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was Anne Whitehat, testifying last year
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at a congressional subcommittee hearing on
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free speech and the legal assault
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on environmental activists and the First
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Amendment. Anne is a
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co-founder of Loi La Vie,
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Water is Life, a South
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Louisiana resistance camp founded in
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2017 to resist energy transfers
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Bayou Bridge pipeline. Just
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make sure you caught the significance of what she
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was saying there. She and a
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handful of other folks were arrested
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for trespassing and
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assaulted in the process, as you'll
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hear later in this episode. Except
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they had permission to be
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on that land, written permission
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from landowners. But
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someone was trespassing. A
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Louisiana state court later ruled that it
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was in fact the pipeline company that
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was trespassing, yet we were the ones
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brutally assaulted and arrested that day. And
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in the weeks following, by the same
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uniformed sheriff's deputies working privately
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for the pipeline company and
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also by pipeline the burkers themselves. Over
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a dozen of us have for several years
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had the possibility of lengthy prison sentences hanging
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over our heads. This is
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something we've seen over and over
2:10
again while reporting this season. Even
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when a wrongful arrest or
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conviction is ultimately overturned, so much
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damage happens in the meantime. A
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lot of it irreparable. In
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Anne Whitehat's case, she was arrested at
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a boat ramp after leading a
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prayer ceremony. It was
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very stressful to have those charges hanging over
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my head for three years
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and constantly, like, every day wondering
2:37
if they're gonna come knocking on the door to
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take me to jail and having to make plans
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for my children. The
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United States likes to portray itself
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as the land of the free,
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founded on an unshakable belief in
2:50
the right to protest one's government. But
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the reality is often much
2:55
different. In fact, in
2:57
many states, anyone participating in the
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Boston Tea Party today could
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be arrested on felony trespassing. After
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all, ports are considered
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critical infrastructure. Paul
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Revere might be charged with civil
3:10
or even criminal racketeering for conspiring
3:13
against the British. We'll
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learn more about racketeering in an upcoming
3:17
episode, but for now, let's
3:20
go back a few years to
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some of the most pristine, old-growth
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cypress forests deep in the swamps
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of Louisiana, a state with
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a reputation for being particularly cozy with
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the fossil fuel industry. The
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activist group Loy La Vie was founded
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in 2017 by
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four indigenous women to oppose the
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construction of the Bayou Bridge Pipeline.
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That's the southern leg of the
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Dakota Access Pipeline, or DAPL. It's
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the same pipeline that thousands of
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people were protesting against up
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north at the Standing Rock Sioux Indian
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Reservation in 2016. Bayou
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Bridge had plenty of local opposition.
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The pipeline cuts through more than 700
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bodies of water, including the
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Atchafalaya Basin, the largest river
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swamp in North America, and
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Bayou La Force, the drinking
4:11
water source for the United
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Huma Nation. There
4:16
were contentious public hearings pitting
4:18
industry-aligned speakers against
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craw fishermen, environmental
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organizations, and just everyday
4:25
Louisianaans concerned for nature
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and their drinking water.
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When you're going into something like
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this and you are in an area
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that is hostile to people who
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are trying to protect the environment at sea
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and it's something that's trying, someone who's trying
4:39
to stop progress or to take away jobs,
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it would be foolish to go straight to,
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you know, any kind of direct action. Cherie
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Feutlin is another Loi-Lavi co-founder and
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an indigenous mother of six who
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at the time lived seven miles
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from the pipeline route. We
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went to the governor every week
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for months. We would all show up,
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all the people from these communities, all
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of us, we would be there every Wednesday, I
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think it was, and we would
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have a press conference. We tried to talk to
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the governor. He never talked to us. We did
5:13
get a chance to talk to his underlings
5:15
like they had sent the EQ
5:17
people, Department of Environmental Quality people to talk
5:19
to us and things like that, but we
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never got decision makers. We never got the
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people with the teeth that can make the
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decision. We had public hearings and
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overwhelmingly people said no, they did not want
5:30
this pipeline, but it didn't matter. It got
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approved anyway. What do you do when you
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have exercised every
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bit of the channels that
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they tell you to go
5:42
through in order to accept changing
5:44
your community and find out that it
5:46
is entirely a farce, but
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you don't have the money and the power
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to say that you want
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to protect your community or protect your
5:55
water or even protect your children. Well
5:58
then that leaves you with very little As
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we learned from Connor Gibson in the first
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episode of this season, by this
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time, the fossil fuel industry
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was working hard behind the
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scenes to stifle this kind
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of opposition. With
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the help of the American fuel
8:24
and petrochemical manufacturers, the
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trade group representing refineries, pipelines,
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and petrochemical plants, plus the
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American Legislative Exchange Council, or
8:32
ALEC, which works
8:35
to pass industry-friendly state legislation,
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they were successfully changing
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laws in several states. What
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would have been misdemeanor trespassing
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charges were now felonies, and
8:48
pipelines were designated as critical
8:50
infrastructure. In
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Louisiana, the industry's influence was out in
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the open. The bill
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was drafted by a guy
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named Tyler Gray, an attorney
9:03
with the Louisiana Midcontinental Oil
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and Gas Association, a Louisiana
9:08
trade group for fossil fuel
9:10
companies. When it
9:12
was introduced by state representative Major
9:14
Thabo Jr., Gray sat right next
9:16
to him, answering lawmakers' questions. The
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bill passed and was eventually signed
9:22
into law by Louisiana Governor John
9:24
Bel Edwards. It went into effect
9:27
August 1, 2018. As
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Anne Whitehat pointed out in
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her congressional testimony, it didn't
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just criminalize activists. The
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coordinated attack on our movement also included
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efforts to silence the journalists who risked
9:42
their safety and well-being to tell the
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world about what was happening to us.
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Our reporter, Karen Savage, was one
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of those journalists. She'll be
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here to tell that story and the rest of the
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Bayou Bridge story after this quick break. I'm
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Amy Westervelt and this is Drilled,
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the real free- One
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day in April, I was actually
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kind of bored. I was driving around, there
16:05
was a pipeline site west of the basin
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that I had been told went by
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a historic black church. And
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so it was a Sunday and I said,
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let me drive by and see what this
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looks like. So I went out there
16:18
and I drove by the church and by the time
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I got there, there was nobody around. It was Sunday,
16:22
there was no work happening. There were a
16:24
few cars parked near the church, but nothing
16:26
at all was happening. So I
16:29
drove around the block, but it's rural
16:31
Louisiana. So it was like, the block
16:33
was like a mile on each side. Came
16:36
around the other direction and was
16:38
coming back towards the church parallel
16:40
to the pipeline on
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this little bitty narrow road. Nobody
16:44
else was around, it was peaceful. I'd been
16:46
taking pictures upstairs and it was like the
16:49
golden hour. And I was honestly at that
16:51
point not interested in the pipeline. I had
16:53
a million pictures of pipeline construction sites that
16:55
I already wasn't using. So
16:57
anyway, I was just driving honestly on my way home
17:00
at that point when this car came
17:02
at me on this little narrow road, there were
17:04
deep ditches on both sides. And I thought
17:06
that it was gonna hit me head on. And I'm like, okay, this
17:08
is it. There's nobody around to see
17:11
the crash. So I hope some of these guys survive
17:13
and can call somebody for me. But
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they didn't hit me. They did one
17:18
of those sideways stop things that cars
17:20
do. And I would jump these two guys.
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And I could tell at that point that
17:26
there was some type of law enforcement. It
17:28
was a police type vehicle. And
17:30
they came up to me with their hands like on
17:33
their holsters and demanded, what
17:35
are you doing? Why are you here? Who
17:37
are you working for? And
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I didn't know what to say. I'm here alone with these
17:42
guys. So I just said, okay, what agency are you from?
17:45
And they were just asking me the same questions
17:47
overall or again. At one point
17:49
I said, do you wanna see my license?
17:51
Because I kind of assumed I had like
17:53
not stopped or something. But no,
17:56
they never wanted my license. They ran the
17:58
plate of the car. And
18:00
I know they used police gear because I
18:02
could hear somebody on the other end say,
18:04
yeah, it's a rental from Lafayette. And I
18:06
had just picked up the rental car that
18:08
morning, actually. So, you know,
18:10
this went on for, it seemed like forever because it
18:13
was just me and these guys with guns on
18:15
a little remote Louisiana road. I
18:18
could tell they had a badge and it was
18:20
shaped in the state of Louisiana, but I had no
18:22
idea what agency they were with. They were not
18:24
telling me. I couldn't tell if it
18:26
was parish, if it was state, whatever. So
18:28
eventually I guess they got tired of me.
18:30
They just told me, okay, you need to
18:32
leave now. So they jumped back in their
18:34
car and drove away, you know, kind
18:37
of did a little three point turn and
18:39
went the same direction I was going. So they were ahead of me.
18:42
Luckily I had just gotten a new zoom.
18:45
So I got a picture of the place. And
18:47
when I got back to my computer,
18:49
I messaged a couple of friends and
18:51
finally found somebody who could run the
18:53
plate. And it took a while, but
18:56
the plate came back to the state of Louisiana. So
18:59
I'm like, this is really weird. Why is the department
19:02
of corrections chasing me around near the
19:04
state line? So I did some
19:06
records requests and in
19:09
late June figured out that the
19:11
DOC, Department of Corrections, had
19:13
allowed probation and parole officers to work
19:16
side jobs for the pipeline company. It
19:18
actually gave me a really big break
19:20
in the story. So eventually there was
19:22
other reporting that had happened on it
19:24
and the DOC changed
19:26
their mind and revoked the permission and those
19:28
guys weren't allowed to work anymore, but
19:31
during an interview, the head of
19:33
that agency had told me,
19:35
yeah, I think the St. Martin Parish
19:37
Sheriff's department will be doing the work. So
19:40
I'm like, this is interesting. So I
19:43
did records requests and
19:45
eventually figured out that that was
19:47
true. The deputies were working, got
19:50
the timesheets and could
19:52
piece together based on who I
19:54
saw and had pictures of the
19:56
salon and the swamps on what days that
19:58
almost none of the. that I
20:00
saw in the swamp or near
20:03
protest sites were actually working
20:05
for the parish. In fact,
20:08
almost all of the
20:10
arrests were made by deputies who were
20:12
looking like full deputies. Mind you, they
20:14
had the guns on, they had the uniform,
20:16
they had the, you know, parish-issued
20:19
gear, but they were not working for the parish
20:21
at the time. They were working for the pipeline
20:23
company. At
20:25
one point, the water protectors actually
20:27
won a court injunction. The
20:29
court ruled that the pipeline building
20:31
should stop until some of the
20:33
land rights issues were sorted out.
20:35
Cherie Foytland and other water protectors
20:38
from Loe La Vie took papers
20:40
from the court to the pipeline
20:42
site. The
20:44
police show up, right? And because
20:46
we're there, we're telling them, hey, it's time to
20:48
stop. We give them the paperwork, the court paperwork,
20:50
and the first policeman says, okay, guys, you gotta
20:52
stop. This is a judge's
20:54
order. And another policeman, higher than him,
20:56
said, there's nothing higher than E-T-P-E. I
20:59
did keep, because they were all on the payroll.
21:01
They were getting paid well. They
21:04
came in and said, no, they can keep going, and
21:06
they kicked us out, and I know they're getting out of
21:08
the day. Remember,
21:12
the new critical infrastructure laws were due
21:14
to come into effect in Louisiana in
21:16
just a couple months on August 1,
21:18
2018. And
21:21
as that August 1 date grew closer and
21:23
closer, tension just rose and rose. By
21:26
that time, all of the construction and attempts to
21:28
stop the construction were deep in the swamp.
21:30
And it's gorgeous out there, by far
21:32
the most beautiful places I've ever reported
21:34
from. Sunset, birds,
21:37
trees, if you're out in the water at night,
21:39
all you see is the red eyes of the gators. There
21:42
are armadillos, there are wild boars. It's
21:44
an amazing place, but it's also
21:46
super remote. The only way
21:48
in or out is by boat. There's almost no
21:51
cell phone reception. Contractors on the fan boats. Pipelingers.
21:54
Anybody out there by August 1 certainly
21:56
knew the Sheriff's Department Was working for
21:59
the pipeline company. One. Day a
22:01
guy showed up at the camp site with a
22:03
baseball. He made threats, He assaulted a water protector.
22:05
All. Kinds of presence of going on, A.
22:08
Few days later after that incident, I was
22:10
in a kayak. When. The same individual came
22:12
off in a fan vote and made more. So
22:26
as seem to be pretty well known that
22:29
there would be. No repercussions for
22:31
threatening or assaulting water protectors.
22:33
Over. A nail on the
22:36
night. We are just. Without.
22:38
Do and I seen such as to
22:40
an ability to school he just wait
22:42
and a few days service. Oh yeah
22:44
mistake words it's you know as soon
22:46
as as soon as that law passed
22:48
the were out there sauce not felonies.
22:51
The first felony arrest or only
22:53
a few days after the law
22:55
went into effect. At that point,
22:57
three water protectors were in kayaks
22:59
and they were pulled out of
23:01
the kayaks, handcuffed, drag us into
23:03
a python easement, and then arrested.
23:06
hundred and new felony trespassing law.
23:08
And that was the time period
23:10
when the Department of Questions was
23:12
contracting with. Energy Transfer and
23:14
what you're about to here is
23:16
to Energy Transfer of Contractors directing
23:18
the state employees who are also
23:20
working for the pipeline companies to
23:23
arrest the water for doctors and
23:25
kayak. They were also
23:27
physically trying to prevent me from some. The
24:08
three were the first. To be arrested
24:10
under Louisiana's. New critical infrastructure
24:12
laws, Not long after that the
24:14
conflict moved as you miles down the by
24:16
a own to another. Construction Site on
24:19
private property in the swamp. To.
24:22
This is the land that and White
24:24
had mentioned earlier. were loyal as the
24:26
water protectors. Had written permission to be
24:29
and the pipeline company did not. In
24:31
fact, the property owners had passed lily
24:33
lousy to be there to help them
24:35
because they really didn't want this pipeline
24:37
on their property. Energy
24:40
Transfer didn't have legal permission for.
24:42
Work on that site and the thing that and shingles.
24:44
Suck me as I was a party from there is a thing
24:46
mean. They didn't have permission to be this.
24:48
They knew they didn't have permission to tear
24:50
up the cypress trees or dig a trench
24:53
or pull a pipeline through that property. It
24:55
was clear they knew they filed an eminent
24:57
domain case in the land owners. Wanting to
24:59
prevent the destruction of the land. Actually
25:02
filed for an injunction, a temporary.
25:04
Restraining order to prevent that i
25:06
think symphony from working. A hearing
25:08
for that injunction was coming up in
25:10
September, so there were many ways that
25:13
Energy Transfer knew that they said be
25:15
working out there, But yet they were
25:17
so fucking. And was not
25:19
a situation where it says that when placing
25:21
a loss we have not broken the law
25:24
that that properties are all the as the
25:26
owner have success or or punters. I find
25:28
this of the my. Link and can
25:30
you How cool is that? The
25:33
police are bought and paid for
25:35
by the spoil companies Unsupported. Are
25:37
these systems arrested as anyway? Here's
25:42
how Surrey described in at the time. To
25:44
says just after several people including
25:47
Care and had been arrested on
25:49
that property. Ready
25:51
to spoil your money or in
25:54
his have five percent square. We
25:56
have three. Said happening is on
25:58
that land that. ETP does not
26:00
know that they are illegally doing work
26:02
on. And we are here with permission,
26:05
and the St.
26:07
Martin Parish police
26:09
will not do anything. In
26:11
fact, earlier today, myself and another
26:13
person went to speak with them. We
26:16
were navigating around to three different spots, three
26:19
different locations, finally talked to two deputies. We
26:21
gave them all the paperwork, everything that we
26:23
had to show that ETP was
26:25
not allowed to be here. By
26:27
the time we got back, there was a situation where
26:30
we had four police boats go out
26:32
in front of us loaded with St. Martin Parish
26:34
sheriffs. Why is St. Martin Parish
26:36
criminalizing peaceful water protectors when we are
26:38
the ones who are upholding the law and they
26:40
are the ones supporting the criminals? I
26:44
don't know, man. It feels like I'm off the regime, honestly. Biting
26:47
multi-billion dollar corporations. Something's wrong,
26:49
there's no reason. And
26:51
to tell you the truth, I'd rather be home right now
26:53
with my kids, but I'm not because
26:55
someone has to hold them accountable. Let
27:00
him go! Let
27:04
him go! He's
27:07
back! Let
27:10
him go! He
27:13
let him go! Yes, back. Yes!
27:16
Back. Back up. Back
27:18
up. He's not resisting. He's
27:21
not resisting. He's not resisting. You're
27:24
all trespassing. If you don't want to go, you better
27:26
go. We're not trespassing. We're not trespassing. You are trespassing.
27:30
Fuck. He's
27:33
back. Ah,
27:36
dude. You're taking me.
27:39
Brother, come back. Narya, please
27:41
ask her first. Stop joking
27:44
around. No, don't, don't.
27:47
We need you to come back. We need
27:50
you back. Help. Please don't come
27:52
back. He's back. He's
27:56
back. Ah! Hey,
27:58
you're back. You're back. While.
28:06
Carrying this tape is really horrifying and
28:08
I know we're only hearing a tiny
28:10
snippet of it. Yeah, that
28:13
that was just a brutal. Brutal
28:15
Arrest it was. It was horrible.
28:17
hard to hear. Even to this
28:19
day. Hard to see, you know,
28:21
and after the guys treasury away,
28:23
there were others that. Were coming towards
28:25
where I was standing and were other
28:28
water protectors were standing so everyone started
28:30
to some running. And the opposite direction
28:32
when I ran with the water protectors to
28:34
have thought that was on the other side
28:36
of the property. I was worried they were
28:39
gonna arrest me again because at that point
28:41
I had already been arrested once. but mostly
28:43
I was focused on protecting myself. To be
28:45
honest I remember laying on the both floor
28:47
as we went from the site through the
28:49
biogas was like fifteen twenty minute boat ride
28:52
back to the doctor remember lane on the
28:54
floor with another person who also has some
28:56
some video from that day kind of hiding
28:58
under their so that if we ran across
29:00
pipeline. Or is or security size police
29:03
whatever they were at the time and
29:05
they saw the boat they wouldn't see.
29:07
Me or they would see my camera. Surrey.
29:12
Fleet Lin did get arrested that day.
29:15
Varies arrested hundred for are not properly those
29:17
on for the provide for such a loss
29:20
on the like a game's on. From listen
29:22
to the on the other it's add without why
29:24
they put me into our fire to. Solve
29:26
Israel's founding of us would have
29:28
been five years hard labor in
29:31
Louisiana inactivating way to go and
29:33
look good. So I suffered arts.
29:36
Sure, he was worried that she would be
29:38
seizing. The worst case scenario. Is he
29:40
was convicted. I
29:43
thought that through the chance that our
29:45
favorite says feel fine so it's not
29:47
so long as a series of an
29:49
oil or to me. Being
29:53
a reporter on the scene did not
29:55
help Karen from butting up against Louisiana's
29:58
will. Friendly cops. Are laws. either.
30:01
I ended up being arrested twice, both times
30:03
after the felony trespassing law went into effect.
30:06
One time was on the property where I
30:08
had permission to be. And another
30:10
time a few weeks later at a boat
30:13
ramp where at the same time in White
30:15
Hat was also arrested. And
30:17
we know without second arrest, by that time I
30:19
knew the way from the boat ramp to the jail.
30:21
I'd been there before reporting on other arrests. But
30:24
once they got me into the
30:26
vehicle, instead of going from
30:28
point A to point B, the deputy
30:30
took a really long way around circling
30:32
around these again, tiny little remote gravel
30:34
roads. Now in the middle of the
30:36
sugar cane fields, you know, the sugar
30:38
cane is way up at that point
30:40
in the year. So you know,
30:42
no one can see even that a car
30:45
is coming much less what's happening. It was
30:47
horrifying because you know, you hear all kinds
30:49
of stories about people disappearing in the sugar
30:52
cane fields. And you know, Anne went
30:54
through the same thing, but worse. She described
30:56
how at one point as she was being
30:58
transported, you know, in the same circular fashion,
31:01
another parish police vehicle
31:03
pulled up and
31:06
they had her get out of the first car
31:08
and get into the second car. Now
31:10
just think from it, how horrifying that would have
31:12
been for her. This is a brown woman in
31:14
South Louisiana in the middle of a sugar
31:17
cane field during a battle
31:19
that says heated as this. And
31:21
she's being told to get out of the car like
31:23
that by people that
31:25
she knows are not actually working
31:28
for the parish or protecting her, but
31:30
people who are working and looking out
31:32
for the pipeline company. Lawyer Bill Quigley
31:34
says these are the sorts of tactics
31:36
that become common. When the industry feels
31:39
like the pushback against it is
31:41
starting to work. And
31:44
so when the end is coming and they're desperate,
31:47
they're willing to use the law as
31:50
a means of punishing people for
31:52
their protests, for their speech, for their
31:54
activity that should be
31:56
protected by the First Amendment. And
31:58
they're desperate. And
32:00
they're billionaires. When you have desperate billionaires,
32:03
they're gonna do everything they can and they don't
32:05
worry about what the law says and they don't
32:08
worry that maybe a year from now or two
32:10
years from now or three years from now, some
32:12
judge is gonna say, well, that was
32:14
ridiculous and that was illegal, what you
32:17
did to these people. They're interested in
32:19
now, punishing people now, using the
32:21
law as a tool to punish people
32:23
who have a different opinion and different
32:25
conduct by trying to save the human
32:27
race. Right, right. And I think we
32:29
saw that in Louisiana, remember? How, you know,
32:31
there was a court date in November, but
32:34
they wanted folks out of the way so they could
32:36
get that work done by November because once
32:39
the work is done, you know, how you gonna undo
32:41
it, you know? That's
32:43
absolutely right. Like Pam can talk a
32:45
little bit more about that. Pam
32:48
is Pam Spee's staff attorney at
32:50
the Center for Constitutional Rights. She's
32:53
worked on several cases in support
32:55
of environmental protest, including
32:57
various Bayou Bridge cases with Bill.
33:00
So I think what you're
33:02
talking about, Karen, is their flagrant
33:05
trespass on some really important
33:07
property in the Atchafalaya Basin, where
33:10
the company just made a decision. We
33:12
proved this at trial. They admitted it. They
33:15
made a financial decision to ignore
33:17
the law, which was already so
33:19
favorable to the corporations. You know,
33:22
oil companies, oil pipeline
33:24
companies the power
33:26
of eminent domain. They don't even have to work through
33:28
the state. So the laws
33:30
are already really lost and
33:33
supportive of these companies. And Bayou
33:36
Bridge just decided we're not even
33:38
gonna adhere to the limited
33:40
restrictions we have. We're just
33:42
gonna go out there, start constructing, because it's
33:44
cheaper ultimately to violate the
33:46
laws that apply to us than it is
33:49
to adhere to them and delay things. It
33:51
was a race against time. The ones that,
33:53
you're right. Once they got the pipeline built,
33:55
our only recourse
33:57
is we had won a trial and prevented them from...
34:00
getting the right of expropriation after
34:02
the fact would have been you
34:04
will now have to go dig it up and and
34:06
now almost No judge
34:08
in Louisiana is going to order a pipeline
34:10
company to do that. It is so burdensome
34:13
on Protesters
34:15
to Be
34:17
hauled into court and even in these
34:19
frivolous cases and have to deal with
34:21
those for two three years Until
34:24
they finally Peter all and are
34:26
dismissed and then by then the damage
34:28
is done and these companies know that Right,
34:31
right Yeah I mean just waiting because
34:33
they have what four years from the time
34:36
they arrest you to go ahead and like put
34:38
those charges through Some waiting
34:40
and just wondering, you know, am
34:42
I gonna be in a Louisiana jail
34:44
doing hard labor for five years? You
34:47
know, I was arrested as a reporter. So I wasn't even
34:50
You know, I had no attempt to get arrested
34:52
I stayed where it was supposed to be and
34:55
they just basically didn't want me to
34:57
document what they were doing Around
34:59
the world the fossil fuel industry
35:02
invests a lot of resources into
35:04
building local support for its projects
35:06
and encouraging hostility against its opponents
35:10
Land offenders often face threats not
35:12
only from law enforcement or corporate
35:14
employees, but also from community members
35:17
in South Louisiana That's definitely the
35:19
case The oil and
35:21
gas industry has not only ingrained
35:23
itself in the local culture and
35:25
pushed through new laws criminalizing protest
35:28
It also had local cops
35:30
moonlighting as pipeline security That's
35:33
a combination of factors that made
35:35
for a really dangerous situation. I
35:41
Told into my driveway a young
35:43
woman came running up to me now There's
35:45
a field at the end of our road right there
35:47
and this young woman talked to me and it
35:49
was dark And she said I've
35:51
lost my baby, you know, can you help me?
35:53
Hi, I lost my kid I'm sorry. Yeah, you
35:55
know, I just you know, I have to help
35:57
I do not recognize this person but
36:00
she did have a very like South
36:02
Louisiana accent. So I did
36:04
have reason not to believe her. I got a little bit,
36:06
maybe like a couple hundred dollars
36:09
out into the field and he's got this back to him because
36:11
I kept asking her questions. Is it a boy, is it a
36:13
girl, what am I with a boy? Like, you
36:15
know, how old, you know, things like that. And
36:18
all of a sudden I took a step backwards because
36:20
she was getting farther away and
36:22
almost disappeared when I felt two hands
36:25
push me down from
36:27
behind. And when they pushed me,
36:29
they just started just hitting me.
36:32
At one point one of them was hitting me with a belt, I
36:34
know. And really just kick
36:36
him, honestly. And then I, you
36:38
know, that I have pulled myself a little bit more back
36:40
into the light. We had a street right there, but I
36:42
was out of it at that point. So
36:44
I knew if I got back to the light, I'd
36:47
be safer. And maybe at least someone
36:49
in my area could see. And it
36:51
probably happened very quickly, but it felt long,
36:53
if that makes sense. And yeah,
36:55
by the time I made it back to the light, they
36:59
had disappeared too. And I didn't see them
37:01
again. But I had to put up
37:03
myself up and dust myself off. I
37:05
also had children in that house, you
37:07
know, five of them. And I did not
37:10
want to scare them. I
37:12
did not want what I
37:15
did to affect them as little as possible,
37:17
you know? So I kind of, you know,
37:19
dusted myself off as best I could and I walked
37:21
in the house with my head up. Like nothing was
37:23
wrong. And my little boy said, you know, wow. He
37:26
said, obviously, that's the situation. And I said, oh,
37:28
I just fell down, you know? I locked all
37:31
my doors and I locked all my windows. And
37:33
after that, I got a camera for the, around
37:35
the house and I just ate
37:38
it. You know, we were in the middle
37:40
of a big struggle. In
37:44
her congressional testimony, Anne Whitehat also
37:47
talked about this violence against protesters,
37:49
not just from police, but from
37:51
some members of the public. Escalating
37:54
violence has been used for centuries
37:56
against people who challenge the concentration
37:59
and misuse. power. This is nothing new
38:01
to us. But what we experience
38:03
needs to be recognized by all as a
38:05
coordinated assault on a movement. Indigenous
38:09
people continue to be the first responders
38:11
to the worsening effects of climate crisis.
38:14
Our actions are part of our commitment as caretakers
38:16
of the places we live in. I
38:18
know it's nothing I can do. I mean, the truth of the
38:20
matter is these people are believing in me in every single way.
38:23
And, but I wasn't going to let them intimidate
38:25
me at that point. I was not. I
38:27
just felt like if I struggled, if I
38:30
stopped at that point, then anyone,
38:32
a lot of people who are out there trying to
38:34
do the same thing, which is just to know, would
38:37
have to suffer the same thing because they would
38:39
know it would work. So I kept going. And
38:43
two months later, I was sitting at a Sonic
38:45
and I was getting drinks from my babies and I was getting
38:47
ready to go home. And I was kind of excited because I
38:50
was going to get to spend the rest of the afternoon with
38:52
them. And somebody came up behind me and
38:54
grabbed me from behind. I
38:57
feel if it wasn't a
38:59
knife that they had, then it was some kind
39:01
of metal object. But I didn't know anything.
39:03
And I was pretty terrified. So they
39:05
told me that they were
39:07
going to kill everyone in my, not
39:10
me, they wouldn't kill me. They kill everyone
39:12
in my family and everyone I loved. And
39:14
then they named off a list
39:16
of people that I very few
39:18
people killed. And that was the start
39:20
of it. I couldn't do it.
39:23
I got my kids out of there. And we went
39:25
somewhere else. It was
39:27
for those reasons that three of those
39:30
arrested on felony charges and White Hat,
39:32
Ramon Mejia and Karen Savage,
39:35
along with a dozen other
39:37
organizations and individuals filed a
39:39
lawsuit in 2019 to challenge
39:41
the constitutionality of that law.
39:45
Pam Spees and Bill Quigley represented them. The
39:50
lawsuit was challenging the 2018 amendments
39:52
that the Louisiana legislature passed, which
39:55
added pipelines to the definition of
39:57
critical infrastructure. And
40:00
we brought this to challenge the
40:03
constitutionality of the amendment. And
40:06
one of the problems with the way
40:08
these pipelines were added into the definition
40:10
of critical infrastructure is that Louisiana has
40:12
well over 125,000 miles of pulp lawns.
40:18
The law wasn't limited to oil and
40:20
gas. It was any kind of pipeline. Water
40:22
pipelines, right? So then you add that and
40:24
you just turn vast, vast
40:27
swaths of territory in Louisiana
40:30
into critical infrastructure. And it
40:32
didn't specify in any way
40:35
areas around pipelines. So one problem right
40:37
off the bat was that it was
40:39
unconstitutionally vague. And then you add the
40:42
first amendment concerns into it and it
40:44
becomes just very clear
40:46
why this is such a problem. And
40:49
then we were into discovery and we got
40:51
to take depositions of some of these deputies
40:54
who were being employed by
40:56
the pipeline company who
40:58
disagreed even among themselves how
41:00
to figure out when and where this
41:03
law applied. It's, you know, and
41:05
just really showed what a huge loss these
41:07
amendments created. Unfortunately, the
41:10
judge ruled against this. He
41:12
found that he didn't think that
41:14
it violated the first amendment. And
41:17
so we have filed a motion to reconsider
41:19
and we're waiting on that ruling and
41:21
we're hopeful, you know, if maybe we
41:23
can change this judge's mind. If not,
41:26
I think we feel we have
41:28
a really strong case to make an appeal, but
41:30
the case is still very much in play. From
41:33
a national perspective, a win in
41:35
Louisiana, which like we've heard is
41:37
a conservative friend of the fossil fuel
41:39
industry, would send a strong
41:41
message to states considering such laws. It
41:44
could even push states that have already
41:46
enacted them to reconsider. While
41:49
the constitutional case is in play, the
41:51
state has since dropped its charges
41:53
against the protesters. And
41:56
none of those charges went through.
41:58
Not a single fella. charge from
42:00
that critical infrastructure that I went through. And you
42:02
think about the charges, you think about what it
42:05
costs to put us in jail, you think about
42:07
what it costs to do all that, to the
42:09
state, to the city itself. And
42:14
these officers, they got a few more bucks
42:16
for a while, but I mean,
42:18
was it worth it? They drink that water too. The
42:22
state court also ruled that it
42:24
was the pipeline company that had
42:27
been trespassing all along. This
42:29
is what Loewe LaVeie had been arguing the
42:31
whole time and why the landowners had
42:34
involved them in the first place. And
42:37
yet, the pipeline company faced
42:39
a very minor fine and
42:41
no jail time, unlike the
42:43
water protectors. The penalty
42:45
for destroying private property for corporate
42:47
gain? A whopping $450 fine. $150 for
42:49
each of the landowners who filed a
42:55
fine suit. Those landowners appealed and the higher
42:57
court later upped the fine to $10,000 plus
43:01
attorney's fees. For
43:03
context, Energy Transfer has said
43:06
the pipeline is capable of
43:09
moving 480,000 barrels of oil per
43:11
day. At today's oil prices,
43:13
that's roughly $43.2 million
43:16
worth of oil running through their
43:18
land every single day. Completed
43:21
in 2019, the Bayou Bridge
43:23
Pipeline now transports oil from the
43:25
north to refineries in St.
43:27
James Parish and nearby export
43:29
terminals. And yep, you guessed
43:31
it. Those are predominantly African-American
43:34
communities located in what's referred to
43:36
as Cancer Alley because the area
43:38
is home to so many
43:40
refineries and petrochemical plants. Even
43:44
though the pipeline was eventually built, the
43:46
way Cherie looks at it, Loewe LaVeie
43:49
was still a success. For
43:51
one thing, they were able to buy some
43:53
land that was the home base for the
43:55
pipeline resistance fight. And they turned that land
43:57
into what they call a food forest. with
44:00
banana trees, turmeric, meringue, and all
44:02
sorts of plants and veggies that
44:04
they give out to the community.
44:09
So yeah, that pipeline went through. But
44:11
I tell you what, we sold a
44:13
lot of people, and we
44:15
have that property now that's now a bi-youthly
44:18
forest, and we're replanting after hurricanes
44:20
come through, we're planting with fruit
44:22
trees. We had inspired
44:24
many, many people to make change,
44:27
and to know that they
44:29
can stand up, and even
44:31
under great oppression, under great
44:33
pushback like that, that there
44:36
is a reason to do that. So I
44:40
will never not count Lole Law B as
44:42
a win, and I will never say to
44:44
those people that intimidated us, or had to
44:46
make those laws to try to take this,
44:48
or whatever, that they won. Because
44:51
I don't know what
44:53
winning is until it's over,
44:56
and it's far from over. You
44:59
know? You'll remember I talked about
45:01
the, I fished the musical on the
45:03
easement, and how the oil workers had
45:05
cracked? In case you missed that, that's
45:08
Crawfish the Musical, which you heard
45:10
some tape from earlier in this
45:12
episode. I
45:21
was reading an article, and it was about this new solar company
45:23
that was coming in, and
45:31
in the article, the person had said that they
45:33
used to be an oil worker, that
45:35
they had been at a protest, and they
45:38
had seen a musical
45:40
about Crawfish, and it
45:42
had changed their perspective because they thought
45:44
it was such a creative thing to
45:46
do, and they started a solar power
45:49
company that was retraining oil workers. I
45:52
had no idea that that happened. We did not
45:54
plan for that to happen. But the
45:56
truth of the matter is, any time you
45:58
do good things on this edge, or voice it, the state
46:00
of righteousness period, it is going to reverberate
46:02
into the world. I think that it's up
46:05
to each generation to decide what it is
46:07
that they will demand for the next generation.
46:10
I think that we demand more,
46:12
and I think that those children and
46:14
grandchildren and grandchildren deserve more. I
46:17
guess that's it. Don't let them
46:20
do it. I
46:24
want stronger than we think, more powerful than we
46:26
think, and if we weren't, then they wouldn't go
46:28
after us like this. They have to use the
46:30
law to go after us. They have to try
46:33
to push us down, try to steer us, try
46:35
to do that, because they know that we are
46:37
much more powerful than they are.
46:40
And together we can make that change, but we've
46:42
got to sit down and protect what we already
46:44
have. We have to do that. And we need
46:46
to do it like right now. Right now.
46:51
That's it for this time. Big thanks
46:54
to Karen for bringing us this story.
46:56
She'll be back on upcoming episodes about
46:58
what it looks like to see protests
47:00
criminalized in the U.S. We'll
47:03
be leaving the country again in some upcoming
47:05
episodes, so make sure to come back for
47:07
those. Jilled is an original Critical
47:09
Frequency production. This episode was
47:11
written and reported by me, Karen Savage. Our
47:14
senior editor for this season is Aline
47:16
Brown. This episode was also edited
47:18
by Sarah Ventry. Our senior
47:20
producer is Martin Zaltz-Ostwick, who also does
47:23
our sound design and composed most of
47:25
the music in this episode. Mixing
47:27
and mastering by Peter Duff, who also composed
47:29
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47:32
theme song is Burt in the Hand by Four
47:34
Known. Fact checking by Rudan
47:36
Yan. Our artwork is by
47:38
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47:40
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