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I am the great wizard, your host. Our

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heroes have solved a mystery and Asgard isn't

1:40

in war yet. Quinnie managed to keep his

1:43

secrets inside a mass zone of truth. Juniper

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rejoined the party and told everyone she was

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a werewolf, but no one made a thing

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out of it. And Bot hole laid out

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their findings and convinced the foreign envoys. But

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what will they have to do to win

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over Sembia and make Asgard truly safe? Find

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out next on. Tom-toms

2:01

and free gods! Tom-toms,

2:06

you have managed to temporarily satiate

2:08

the envoys from the Lord's Alliance

2:12

and from Vassar in the

2:14

murder investigation of Longadon Geese and the

2:16

disappearance of Resh Grey. You

2:18

still, however, need to be vouched for by

2:21

a neighboring state in order to

2:23

qualify for

2:26

non-annihilation, I guess. Just a bunch of

2:28

double negatives. Cormir

2:30

really needs a local group to vouch for

2:33

you, preferably one that isn't called Vassar because

2:35

Warlock Knight's in Cormir? Not the best

2:37

of pals. And thus, you're left with Sambia,

2:39

who has come on behalf

2:41

of the Lord High Governor, Samilon

2:46

Uscrevin III. I'm sorry,

2:48

a Samilon? Samilon Uscrevin

2:51

III. Samilon Uscrevin III. Yeah,

2:53

whose name you haven't heard yet, but

2:55

now you just have it. Who needs

2:57

help in Selgant and has

2:59

sent Kiran Bashkara to ask for

3:01

your assistance. He

3:04

has, and you did generally offer some

3:06

assurances of that. However, you needed to

3:08

get through the show of

3:10

art and culture, as well as the

3:12

development of your laws first. And then

3:14

there was that whole murder investigation and,

3:16

you know, Kuwinni's big knight. But now I've

3:18

inserted all of that. It

3:21

is time to finally deal with Sambia. So

3:24

King Butthole, you have summoned Kiran Bashkara

3:26

to the throne room after the rest

3:28

of the envoys have left. He

3:30

arrives rather quickly. And

3:33

he's a little edgy. You can see that

3:37

unlike a video game NPC who gives you a

3:39

quest and then it's just cool. It's like, quick,

3:41

Link, we need to go do this. And then

3:43

Link just fishes for five years and it's like,

3:45

that's fine. He's kind of like looking at his

3:48

pocket watch, knowing that he has to get back

3:50

and a little bit concerned. Of

3:52

course, as soon as Anand announces him,

3:54

he's all back to business. And

3:57

he enters and he bows low and he says, King

4:00

Butthole, I am honored to be

4:02

in your presence again. Can

4:05

I assume that this summons means that you have

4:07

decided to come to the aid assembly? Yeah,

4:10

that's the plan. So we gotta help you out.

4:12

It sounds like you got an undead problem. What

4:15

do you need? Well

4:18

the undead gong is kind of a concern

4:20

as of late. I

4:23

understand that with your various powers you were

4:25

able to end the

4:28

greater undead problem as we previously

4:30

discussed. We are

4:32

simply looking for some assistance in

4:35

this. The silver ravens who do take care

4:37

of Selgant are perhaps

4:39

up to the task, but the Lord

4:41

High Governor was somewhat concerned that their

4:44

numbers might be severely depleted, whereas great

4:46

heroes such as yourselves could make

4:48

fast work of these undead

4:50

monstrosities that remain in our streets.

4:53

Okay, how many undead are we talking about? There

4:56

are many. We

4:58

haven't counted them. Does that mean like

5:01

a couple hundred or are we talking tens of

5:03

thousands? Oh no, no, no. Closer

5:05

to the hundred count I would say. They

5:09

are incredibly strange, my Lord, unlike

5:11

the undead hordes

5:13

that had descended on us previously.

5:15

These ones, well,

5:17

I don't quite know how to

5:20

say this without sounding a little bit daft, but

5:22

they seem to just be kind of going about

5:24

their business. They've infected

5:26

all manners of place. They

5:28

are all over, and when

5:30

approached or harassed, they

5:33

go pardon my language, ape

5:35

shit, and completely attack

5:37

and explode anyone who attempts to

5:40

interfere with them in their processes.

5:43

All right, well, yeah, that sounds like it would be

5:45

really annoying. Can I just ask the question, what

5:48

are their processes and

5:50

is it necessary to interfere with them

5:53

if that's kind of the

5:55

problem? Live

6:00

in with a bunch of balms. The just

6:02

walk around and do stuff. Is

6:06

walk around begin Bombs. And

6:09

know I've I wouldn't. For nor do I

6:12

know to the find people of so god

6:14

and yet that is how we find ourselves

6:16

live in with these undead exploded boys are

6:18

a to how far away his his cell

6:20

god. Will send me a

6:22

my friend is is a little

6:24

bit of a ways could be

6:26

a few days trick for ya.

6:28

I'm afraid you will have to

6:30

travel to the years the so

6:32

the somewhat through the day lands

6:34

is that the fastest I assume

6:36

given your present circumstance, avoiding Cormier

6:38

might be the right call. So

6:40

where I can go? give you

6:42

some directions, a map though there

6:44

are places along the way you'll

6:46

be able to worth take refuge.

6:48

have little break if you needed.

6:51

Butter Yes, Mb as on the

6:53

coast. So God of course, is

6:56

a merchant city on the very

6:58

south eastern edge. Okay,

7:00

jokey swing instructions. We. Can

7:02

make our way there will talk to

7:04

them walking bomb people who also seem

7:06

to have jobs and then I will

7:08

get this resolved for it Will thank

7:11

you I oh Lord governor. Was.

7:13

Given will be a very very pleased to

7:15

hear that and will of course votes for

7:18

you in front of these a fancy folk

7:20

from the sword coast that's great Can we

7:22

get like a letter from. Governor

7:24

was given saying that we've been asked

7:26

to do this job just to the

7:29

locals. Don't think we're showing up as

7:31

some sort of foreign mercenaries. Oh man

7:33

oh damn. He sent me specifically to

7:35

were to ask for your system so

7:37

you are expected or rather I should

7:39

say hope for given your lack of

7:41

appearance or saw and my lack of

7:43

communication back into great distance were you?

7:45

I'd read said spit a couple days

7:47

but due to be no don't it

7:50

it gets massacred. I'm all right so

7:52

let's switch that from hopeful to anticipating

7:54

arrival. Of him. to begin

7:56

to do this or thank you i appreciate i

7:58

i can communicate added this great One

8:01

would need some kind of pharmaceutical cell phone

8:03

or something such nonsense. But fly it's a

8:05

fancy one only hears about in books. Yeah,

8:07

those don't go far enough. We can send

8:09

a bird with a note strapped to it.

8:13

Well, you know the Governor's Falcon, Honeylass

8:15

the second, could encounter that very bird

8:17

and deliver the message itself. Oh,

8:19

so the bird's gonna die if it delivers the

8:21

letter. No, no. Honeylass is incredibly well trained. It

8:23

can, if it sees a message or bird, it'll

8:26

just pluck that little note out, just put his

8:28

little talons and just fly right back. Okay,

8:30

that's incredible. Can we meet this bird? If

8:33

we do good. If you meet the Governor, you

8:35

would have a hard time not meeting Honeylass. Honeylass

8:37

goes wherever Lord Oscar then goes. Amazing.

8:40

Okay. We'll pack our stuff

8:43

and get going ASAP. If

8:45

there's any other information we need, he's

8:48

there. He pulls out the sort

8:50

of map of the region, gives it to

8:52

you, and you can see he's kind of

8:54

plotted a pathway for you. It'll

8:57

take you sort of down,

9:00

again, sort of southeast, map-wise,

9:03

kind of almost on a diagonal. There

9:06

is an abbey along the way, the abbey of the

9:08

Golden Sheaf, that he says will be

9:11

a good place for you to stop and rest. That'll be

9:13

safe, and you'll be able to kind of reload

9:16

there and have a little bit of a

9:21

break en route. The

9:23

Dale Lands and the Mountains are

9:25

not... They're

9:29

inhospitable in the way that the wilds of the Forgotten

9:31

Realms tend to be. There are monsters wandering around. There

9:33

are various factions that live around there. So it's just

9:35

like if you need a safe place on the road,

9:38

that's a good spot to stop. You'll

9:40

be looking for the River Arken,

9:43

which is on the other side of the

9:46

mountains, which are the Desertsmouth

9:49

Mountains. So once you

9:51

get through the Desertsmouth Mountains, you'll

9:54

be looking for the River Arken, which will take you

9:56

past the abbey of the Golden Sheaf, and you can

9:58

basically ride that river all the way... to

10:01

Selgond. It'll

10:03

be passing... Desert, mouth,

10:05

mountains. Yep. Then we take the river

10:07

and that'll take us past the abbey? Yes.

10:10

So the river will take you

10:12

through the Dalelands, which

10:14

are a bunch of city-states

10:18

or loose groupings of

10:20

villages and other things. So

10:22

a bunch of kind of vaguely territorial,

10:25

loosely held groups into

10:27

Sembia and then down through Sembia to Selgond, which

10:30

is on the coast. And the

10:32

abbey of the Golden Sheaf is in the

10:34

Dalelands and is a nice sort of hospitable

10:36

two-strangers place to stop along your way that

10:39

he suggests that you stop at. Beyond

10:43

that, yeah, he just recommends like the

10:45

Dalelands are politically complex place in their

10:47

own right. They're more locally complex than

10:49

globally complex. It's not like the Dalelands

10:51

are out there trying to fuck shit

10:53

up with the likes of

10:56

Damara or anyone else, but

10:58

there's a lot of territorial stuff that happens within the Dalelands. So

11:00

it's kind of one of those like, just be

11:02

careful where you're going around there because you don't

11:04

want to get embroiled in a random local like,

11:07

kerf war. Yep. And

11:09

then you're, as I said, you

11:11

are expected in in Selgond, so

11:14

your arrival there will be greeted

11:17

warmly. They already have rooms and stuff set aside for

11:19

you, so it's really just a matter of getting there.

11:21

This is a sizable journey

11:23

though, in terms of the distance. So you

11:25

guys can make pretty good distance on foot these days, but you'll

11:27

have to determine kind of how you want to travel if you

11:29

want to pack stuff up because we're still

11:32

playing Dungeons and Dragons. And I'm gonna make you

11:34

guys travel as normal people for a while because

11:36

you've had to be kings, queens, and lords

11:38

for a long time. So you'll have

11:40

to figure out what you want to take with you. It is

11:43

a long journey. It's gonna take a few days.

11:46

Your big respite will be halfway there at the

11:48

Abbey of the Golden Chief. Otherwise you've got some

11:50

camping ahead and obviously the mountains, there are pathways

11:52

through. These mountains get crossed quite frequently. It's still

11:55

a fucking mountain range to get across, but it's

11:57

not like you have to climb the mountain. There's

11:59

pathways. and stuff that have been kind of blown

12:01

out through them and that sort of thing. The

12:04

only thing that Juniper really needs is her

12:06

sword and she'd really like it to be

12:09

done. At

12:11

the fore. Be ready. Be ready. Be

12:13

fixed. Is it ready? It

12:16

is. Yay! I'm so happy!

12:18

Okay. So, I mean, I understand. Like,

12:21

you're going to go deal with

12:23

a bunch of undead and travel dangerous,

12:25

desert-wasted people. Yeah. I'm

12:27

just like, please don't leave me without my big

12:29

sword. Yeah.

12:34

I completely understand. All right. So,

12:38

Kieran is going to remain here because he's

12:40

like half hostage, but also like it would

12:45

be very strange if everyone's like, we're all going. Goodbye.

12:49

So, he'll remain here. You give you

12:51

good directions. The map is pretty clear. You'll have to just figure out

12:53

what provisions and things you want, how you want to travel, where

12:56

they want to bring like, you know, do you want

12:58

to recruit a new donkey? I don't know.

13:01

You tell me. But figure out kind of how

13:03

you want to travel. I

13:05

would say traveling light is probably the order of

13:07

the day here, given that it's

13:09

a long distance and also you're not really

13:11

an official delegation so much as like

13:13

heroes for hire in this particular regard. So,

13:16

it'll be up to you. Yeah.

13:19

You can make the argument for hammers and stuff if you

13:21

want, but that's not really the vibe. No

13:24

caravan of hammers going down the river.

13:28

You can try. Other

13:30

than that, I'll leave it to you to how you want to

13:32

prepare and then Bucky will arrive with a sword. Momento.

13:36

All right. Well,

13:39

if you're asking me, I think Reginald's

13:41

got to stay because we need somebody who

13:44

is the heir apparent in case we all

13:46

die. Okay. Well,

13:48

I like staying so cool. Perfect.

13:51

We got that sorted. The rest of

13:53

us got to go because it's undead.

13:56

That's kind of my deal and our

13:58

other clerics are short on clerics. Spoilers.

14:00

Yeah, we got you guys. I

14:03

don't think there's any Okay,

14:06

here's the deal normally I would just go with three of us

14:08

That's kind of feeling a little bit hubristic In

14:10

terms of we're leading a nation where a lot of

14:13

people think we tried to destroy the world and we

14:15

convinced the seven here But we kind of had backup

14:17

would turn those on boys. I don't know if it's

14:19

great optics to be just Us all

14:21

just like being like hey passing through Well,

14:24

we nation we also don't want like a ton

14:26

of people, but I'm thinking like we take like

14:28

a squad We don't actually need them to do

14:30

anything. They're just there to like travel with us on

14:32

the road. So it's not just three people Okay,

14:36

because we need like official credit for doing

14:38

this. Yeah, but we don't want to

14:40

seem crazy. I get it. So Who

14:44

do we like? Doc

14:46

Huckleberry, you know, he made it through the a car

14:50

Insertion or whatever you would call it but that's

14:52

true. We got him we got we could bring

14:55

credit with a squad We could bring a friend

14:57

and give you good go credit in general now

14:59

though. No Krenz captain. Yeah, Chris

15:01

Kevin and Scout

15:05

captain nailed it. All right. We got that fight force fight

15:08

force. That's right. Okay, so we

15:10

could Bring

15:13

krenden cuz he's a scout. He's bring scouts and bring

15:15

like ten people and I something like that or we

15:17

could do business Who you feel

15:19

Doc Huckleberry? He doesn't really know the hammers, but he'd still

15:21

be fine. I like him. I like

15:24

that he's But I don't really

15:26

know him that well and I won't miss him if he

15:28

dies. Oh, so you're thinking they're fully expendable I

15:31

mean, I'm thinking he is I think that's you know a

15:33

plus for him What

15:36

are you are you pitching we murder Doc Huckleberry

15:38

on this journey? I don't want to bring people

15:41

who can't survive That's terrible. Well, I don't allow

15:43

the death penalty legally in this nation. I think

15:45

he's proven that he can survive But

15:48

I also you know, I just wouldn't I wouldn't be

15:50

too bummed out if we lost him, you know He

15:52

just hasn't made a big impact on me Juniper

15:56

how do you feel about the idea of bringing

15:58

someone because we're cool if they do die.

16:00

I morally

16:04

legally object to that. Alright, prepare to get your heart

16:06

broken. However, he

16:09

is a good fighter, right?

16:11

Well, I haven't left, but I do

16:13

want to point out that I needed

16:15

an attendant slash butler, and that's Doc

16:18

Huckleberry, so you can't have my special

16:20

friend. I mean, I like Crendan. I

16:22

think Crendan's capable. He helped us evacuate

16:25

Quinn Town, but maybe

16:27

he can help do some training on

16:29

our arrests. Or honestly, like we could

16:31

just bring him. It feels like he's kind of figuring out

16:33

his own vibe. He seems capable. Yeah, okay.

16:36

Crendan plus squad assigned by Vis Smith and

16:39

Reginald, because we don't know who's good. Yeah.

16:41

Alright, you got that, Reggie? Okay,

16:43

I'll get it done. I'm pretty

16:45

handsome, after all, and handsome Reginald leaves

16:47

to go collect the people we need.

16:49

He'll be very good at convincing them,

16:51

because he has advantage on charisma checks.

16:54

We can just say they agree. But

16:56

they double agree, because he has advantage

16:58

on charisma checks. They're eager. They're excited.

17:00

Not quite. So as

17:02

handsome Reginald goes to collect

17:04

the crew, Juniper, you

17:06

hear an eager pounding of footsteps

17:08

coming up the stairs, and

17:11

who should arrive but

17:13

Bucky with your sword.

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I said I could, you know, work off

20:23

the debt. You told me not to. Yes.

20:26

I said, like, I would do

20:28

that, but the Chief Justice said I'm not

20:30

allowed to. And then when I said something about

20:32

the Chief Justice, they all really kind of like, really,

20:35

really got to work really, really hard and just said, here

20:37

you go. So I don't know what happened. That's

20:41

it? That's nothing more said?

20:44

As far as I'm aware. No, you

20:46

requisitioned a weapon from the Forges

20:48

of Akah. They know

20:51

what that means. It means do it very quickly or

20:53

die. Bucky doesn't know what that means. No. Thanks,

20:56

Bucky. I mean, great work. You're welcome.

20:58

You're doing great, too. Thanks. Juniper,

21:04

she wants to handle the sword and test it out. Just

21:06

give some little swishies, put

21:09

some little divinity in it. Little swishy?

21:12

Is that the new name of the sword after it's been reforged? Damages

21:15

resurrected as little swishies. It's just

21:17

swishies. And then he can choose

21:19

the size or shape of the

21:21

swishies being given. All

21:24

right. So you give it some

21:26

little swishies. And Juniper,

21:28

it feels great. What did you do

21:30

with the sword? It's very well balanced.

21:33

They prepared, you know, it's got a bit of

21:35

that sort of like gold-filling style rebuild

21:38

on it. Like you

21:40

can tell that it's been shattered and put back together. And

21:42

it still has its blade of walls properties. It

21:45

does. Oh, my gosh. It

21:47

is amazing. They made war for generations.

21:50

They know weapons very well. So, Juniper, I'm going

21:52

to give you one point of inspiration for having

21:55

your sword back. Yay! It

21:57

just feels good to have the sword

21:59

back. the weight of it. Again, it's a bit

22:01

of a comfort. And to

22:04

get through all the other packing business that Butthole

22:06

will do, requisitioned Reginald's glamping tents that we actually

22:08

have a tent that can house us all without

22:10

requiring a shitload of shipping, and

22:12

horses. The good horses that are attached to

22:14

the castle. We don't need to walk everywhere.

22:17

But hammers themselves, no-acaw

22:19

uniforms, none of that bullshit. They're just

22:23

generic armor, just generic come up so they

22:25

look like adventurers and they travel with us

22:27

with Crendan. Then it's like enough supplies

22:29

to get there and back. We're not trying to

22:31

make a holiday of this. It doesn't require anything

22:33

fancy. For Butthole, he would love to do some

22:35

more generic armor, but he does have new adamantine

22:37

armor that is better and more

22:39

appropriate to his kingly status. So he would have a

22:41

robe put together, which again, pushes them right into that

22:44

weird Santa Claus zone of a big

22:46

furry outfit that covers the armor completely. And then he

22:48

can stick to the band or lose the band. He's

22:50

not bringing a fancy crown. He doesn't need it. Cool.

22:53

Quinnie, what's your traveling getup? I think it's going

22:55

to be pretty light and standard stuff. He's going

22:58

to trade out the Ashanka that he was packing

23:00

his nice warm fuzzy hat for all the colder

23:02

temperatures. He's probably going to leave that here in

23:04

Acaw, in

23:07

Gary's old apartment, his kind

23:09

of apartment now. But

23:12

he'll probably see about getting some

23:15

sort of desert goggles and maybe a

23:17

scarf for covering his neck if he

23:19

needs and stuff like that, but

23:21

also cover his face during a sandstorm and that kind of

23:23

stuff. But other than that, I

23:25

believe the coat of farts has advantage

23:28

on survival checks and extreme temperatures. So he's going

23:30

to keep that because it goes both ways, hot

23:32

and cold. And yeah,

23:35

he's just going to basically focus on utility

23:37

gear. Very cool. Make sure we're set. But I was

23:39

going to walk out like a Quinnie, be like, oh,

23:42

it's hot here, right? Oh, yeah. He's

23:44

going to go trade his giant fur coat and

23:48

some desert wrapping. Really? Come on and

23:50

ride. Really fucking the desert. Yeah. Oh,

23:52

yeah. That would have been really stupid.

23:55

All right. Juniper, how about you? I

23:58

think Juniper Yeah,

24:00

she doesn't know how what she's gonna have to

24:02

change into or anything So I think it's going

24:04

with the old standby the armor blington stone.

24:06

Yep that morphs to her body great So

24:08

yeah, the hammers show up in just

24:11

kind of standard Adventurer

24:13

gear it's very stripped down. Also. These are

24:15

rough and tupple folks there Goal

24:19

isn't to let armor take the hits. It's

24:21

to do the hits fast enough that the

24:23

armor doesn't really matter So

24:26

they're they're comfortable enough in in this that kind

24:28

of honestly look like a bunch of like brawling

24:30

sailor types at this point But

24:33

ready to kind of travel light and hit as they need

24:35

to Crenden similarly

24:37

has dressed down. He's got Sort

24:40

of closer to what he wore with the fries

24:42

so just very functional gear is obviously like stripped

24:44

off the those logos

24:47

For that unit, but similar to buttholes

24:50

initial instinct just like yeah I'm not

24:52

gonna wear a fucking like a cod

24:54

general suit out out in the world

24:56

on adventures So

24:58

they arrive are ready to go forgive me. Are

25:00

you bringing doc? No doc Huckleberry stings a butler

25:03

Brendan? You bring credit. Yeah, so credit

25:05

is ready to go And

25:07

other than that horses are packed. Everything is ready to

25:09

rock It's time for you guys to get back on

25:11

the road again for the first time in a long

25:13

time Any final kind of orders

25:15

of things you want to leave standing? When

25:18

he wants to go see Ginny real quick I

25:21

can't remember if he gave her the snow globe

25:23

that he bought from the gift shop in a

25:25

car to like give to her I know

25:28

I don't think it came out. No, no, I'm dealing with

25:30

the impending Crown

25:33

she might have to wear. Yeah. Yeah, and you would want

25:35

to just basically drop by let her know What's up that

25:37

he's got to go for a while and be like here.

25:39

I got you this while I was here in a car

25:42

And Actually paid

25:44

for it. It did not want. Yeah. Oh, yeah

25:46

paid you can do that. I apparently I am

25:48

capable Yeah, is that was that like a leveling

25:50

thing? Did you did you gain that skill or

25:53

felt like holding in a sneeze? It's like really

25:55

yeah. Wow. Well, this is this is very very

25:57

cute and very Cool and kind of weird. We

26:00

did. You know? The. Be like conquering the

26:02

police would you gotta do to just buy it in

26:04

case. I. Just thought like snow

26:06

globe souvenir matter what happens a little something very

26:08

another that's that's super cool. Thank you for that

26:10

has series of it's awaits you discover like bring

26:12

me stuff or where you go down as thinking

26:14

about it was kinda I didn't actually get ants

26:17

ask us and is there anything you'd like me

26:19

to keep an eye out for and some be.

26:21

I. Don't really know anything about it is kind

26:23

of her about it. Sounds like what do you

26:25

like. I mean if

26:28

you you remember. Quinton like

26:30

a it I don't really know. kind of figuring

26:32

that out. There wasn't a lot their aside from

26:34

you know like root vegetables and pies obviously and

26:36

are great our and like knives and traps but

26:39

I'm kind of good at building those down. seems

26:41

like to gestures to hell world relic of those

26:43

feelings displaces kind of dirty with those some of

26:45

the word about that but snow this is the

26:48

way I would never have picked this thing. The

26:50

thing split super nonfunctional in kind of weird which

26:52

I felt like it's it's a fun useless thing

26:54

to housing Asus for looking at. yeah I know,

26:56

I know. It's like what a waste of space

26:59

in a bag. But I guess on a shelf.

27:01

As. Pretty cool and up about. Maybe own his

27:04

castle one day. and there's a lot of

27:06

rooms and I don't really want that old

27:08

dead leeches shit so I'll have to crawl

27:10

out out or know what doctors joseph us

27:12

on. Yeah okay sonos, just give me something

27:14

you think is fun. This is still there's

27:16

one is more fun the meeting like to

27:18

see. Here's a. Here's a festive

27:20

list of things to buy me. they just

27:22

go on spaces. This is a My eggs

27:24

isn't my before though. right as as and

27:26

like at the a scary we're not cupboard

27:29

back now gun or dislike of huge population

27:31

of undead to deal with. they explode or

27:33

mouth. Will. Still figuring we assume

27:35

that the just like. So

27:37

like all the under the around before they

27:40

just got missed know they're like doing their

27:42

own processes is what I'm hearing but the

27:44

there and therapies that been I'm we're gonna

27:46

go look in find out invoke a bigger

27:48

it yeah and you just year knock on

27:51

the dark? yeah. oh whittier

27:53

the i just want to say judy like

27:55

we're leaving so if i die and and

27:57

reginald dies your the air remember that outside

28:00

Goodbye uncle butthole. Oh, no problem, and I was gonna check

28:02

but I mean you're here I was looking looking for you

28:04

for president Just make sure that you

28:06

say like appropriate goodbyes cuz we could all die while we're

28:08

away So like just make sure that like it's it's good

28:10

that you're here I mean clearly you thought of this already

28:13

so like don't worry Ginny. We're all gonna

28:15

be fine I'll bring it back if he gets smushed or whatever.

28:17

I don't think he's promised his soul to like some sort of

28:19

weird devil So we're good cool cool. That's

28:21

pretty great. Hey uncle butthole first

28:24

of all ah second and speaking

28:27

of Taking care of

28:29

people and bring them back How

28:32

are your processes not undead going with

28:34

you know processing all of this

28:36

shit because I appreciate you guys could all like die we're

28:39

gonna everything but like you're alive right now, and I'm pretty

28:41

sure dad's not gonna help you with this so You

28:44

you're working on it, or are you just kind of

28:46

putting it on a shelf like this cool snow globe

28:48

dad got me well I got to go hug your

28:51

dad's parents because that's part of the tax that I

28:53

pay for For them being part of the education system,

28:55

and then I'm gonna go prevent us all from dying

28:57

Oh, um okay like that second part check

29:00

your pockets after those hugs Sometimes

29:02

they will slip small pastries into your pockets, and

29:04

if you don't know you will

29:06

sit on them And you will look quite the fool if

29:10

you hug them longer. Do you get

29:12

more pastries? I've tested this and

29:15

generally No, they

29:17

kind of prepared like a shot, and

29:20

then they're out of ammo kind of if

29:23

you hug them long enough I guess they could discreetly

29:25

bake more But I've

29:27

never yeah, grandma referred to it as a

29:29

tester where I think she's you know like

29:31

she Yeah, I

29:34

mean like yeah, so you could

29:36

hold out for more. You could also just ask I

29:38

think they're just kind of baking all the time yeah

29:40

Grandpa won't stop baking a second thought if I hug

29:42

someone for too long I might feel something and that's

29:44

not gonna work, so I'm just gonna go If

29:48

we die we'll be fine, or if not say

29:50

goodbye, and he leaves awkwardly he doesn't have family

29:55

Conversations heard about how they're supposed to go from

29:57

mercenaries who may have been fucking with him okay?

30:00

Uh, it's scary to me that Reginald is making

30:02

more sense than he is these days. Can

30:05

you like he's got a lot on his plate I'm

30:07

trying to you know talk to him when I can

30:09

but we're also like we all got a lot of

30:11

big jobs right now And yeah, yeah, yeah, I just

30:13

worry about him. No another knock on the door Yeah,

30:17

um, sorry. Do you mind? Juniper

30:20

just kind of sidles in say I just wanted

30:22

a quick word with Ginny just because I know

30:24

Line of succession and everything, you know, yeah,

30:27

y'all die. I'm the fucking anything happened

30:29

Remember future freedoms all that stuff.

30:31

I know Annan's got it pretty well

30:33

in hand, but just You

30:37

have any questions about the spirit of the law

30:39

or anything you wanted to know? I Yeah,

30:42

I mean a lot of questions really a lot of

30:44

questions about all the laws Really

30:46

the kind of things that would be very helpful to

30:48

have an alive chief justice for so maybe Just

30:51

don't fucking die. Oh, oh

30:54

no, it definitely won't die. Sure sure But like

30:56

line of succession stuff would maybe just don't well

30:59

Just in case just in case. Yeah, but like maybe just

31:01

in case don't and then it's not a problem I

31:04

mean, sorry, I didn't mean to scare you. It's like a

31:06

hundred undead. It's worth. I think we'll be fine

31:09

Then just like slightly slightly missed. Yeah, I just

31:12

like I Remember

31:14

clearing out that town was less

31:17

than that. It's a fucking cool. Okay.

31:19

Well fine I'm glad a hundred dead isn't a real problem

31:21

for you. Good luck their processes

31:23

I guess and yeah, I'll like keep

31:26

your laws or whatever until until you

31:28

hear about the processes There

31:30

was pocket and what that man, it's fine.

31:33

I think they're in therapy, but maybe not.

31:35

Oh We're

31:38

gonna go find out we're gonna go look at them cool.

31:40

Okay. Well, goodbye Assuming you all

31:42

come back. Goodbye for now and if you all die

31:45

Goodbye forever. You've all meant a lot

31:47

to me. She like means I'll mostly

31:49

you too uncle by whole Yeah, okay

31:52

as your future Queen Get

31:55

the hints and

31:57

then she just like tries to do a regal hand gesture Yeah,

32:00

okay. Goodbye, Juniper. Oh,

32:03

bye. Thanks again, Jenny,

32:05

for just taking

32:08

all this on. You're an incredible person, and

32:10

she'll just turn around. That's really nice.

32:12

Juniper's a really nice person. She is. They

32:14

both don't know how to talk to

32:17

teenagers. Hang on a second. I like look out the fucking

32:19

hallway. Like, is anyone else going to come in here? You

32:21

open the door, and you see Farhol. Yeah. Oh,

32:24

he's here! Of course, yeah. You hear

32:26

him? You down here? Yeah, come on

32:28

in, I guess. You're required to both

32:30

do confession by the king. You got

32:33

to do that before you go, in case you die. No,

32:35

I'm not going to die. It's going to be fine. Oh,

32:37

that's nice. Okay. Okay, I'll hit you up when I get

32:39

back. No, I met a lot of people in hell who

32:41

thought they weren't going to die, and then do it. Well,

32:43

we can just talk about it in hell then. No, you

32:45

have to do confession. It's part of the law.

32:48

Then after confession, I have to talk to

32:50

her about confession. I don't understand the rules,

32:52

but you both have to do confession. It's

32:55

a law. Okay, but

32:57

you don't all understand how confession works? No,

32:59

I do. I don't understand how you two

33:01

do confession together, but we do that after.

33:04

Okay, well, I can go stand outside my

33:06

own room. Thank you. Holy

33:08

shit, I'm sorry. I just wanted to talk. Okay.

33:11

You know what? Honestly, I think you might

33:13

need this, Dad. It's cool. Have a nice

33:15

time out there, future queen. Also,

33:18

she just goes and cracks the window for

33:20

you, just in case he lives up to

33:22

his name, and then closes the door. I

33:34

don't

33:39

know. I think I've been handling things pretty well. I

33:42

feel guilty about it or what? I've

33:44

never done confession. Okay, well, what you do

33:47

is you say the bad things you did, and then

33:49

I tell you that they were

33:51

bad, and then you feel better,

33:53

I think. I'm

33:55

a goblin. I'm kind of self-taught. Okay,

33:58

so... I have this for... If you want to do

34:00

the form, yeah, give me the form. No,

34:02

no, I read the form you answer I

34:05

can't just fill it out. No Cuz

34:07

that would take you out of this process and it would

34:09

be like why do we even have a religion? God, I

34:12

confess to me So

34:14

what does the paper say then? All right,

34:16

hard hole. Did you it's it? Well, how

34:18

long has it been since your last confession

34:20

my I've never had one my entire life. Oh,

34:22

yeah, that's not yeah How long you

34:24

been alive? I'm like

34:27

32 now. Oh my god. That's

34:29

like ten goblins whole life Okay

34:33

There's been a long time been three

34:35

goblins this previous confession You're

34:38

measuring time in goblins. I mean the scale

34:40

you chose it so long I have to

34:42

what am I gonna measure it in days

34:44

you crazy, okay, so did you

34:46

do a murder? I did What

34:50

in three goblins worth of time? I don't know

34:53

this is you're supposed to have done this before

34:56

She just done equipped for three goblins. How many

34:58

murders do you think you did? Like

35:04

Bar hole like 20 goblins at least

35:07

no really. Yeah, I think so wait

35:09

that just goblins are total No, I'm

35:11

trying to measure stuff the way you

35:13

do with how much so how

35:15

much is a goblin in terms of

35:17

the value of a goblin life a Value

35:20

of a goblin life in time is this seems

35:22

like ten years for goblins only live ten years

35:24

and they're too old bye-bye Yeah,

35:27

so then ten times twenty so two hundred I

35:29

guess that's it you killed two hundred people I'm

35:31

not I mean, I'm not keeping track. That's maybe

35:33

you gotta you okay first of all you guys

35:35

start keeping track Gonna

35:38

get in the way of killing. Yeah, that's

35:40

the point of confession So my

35:42

sister mice am I to understand I

35:44

need killing do less do less That's

35:47

like how much killing do you think you're

35:49

doing on a scale of zero to a

35:51

rock a rock I think yeah It's

35:56

I feel like I'm pretty good at it I

36:01

say rock is all the other weapons that

36:03

my people make break so easy. Whereas

36:06

a rock lasts forever. That's so many kills.

36:08

Okay, yeah. That sounds right. That sounds good.

36:10

Did you do them and feel sad? Or

36:12

did you do them and have happiness in

36:14

your heart? Maybe

36:16

something in between. Sometimes happy because it's like they were bad

36:18

people when I got this. How many of them do you

36:20

think were the happy? How many do you

36:22

think? Are you crying? I'm having a

36:25

time. Okay. I'm so sad about your soul.

36:27

Okay. You've done so many

36:29

kills. I have, yeah. And I bet a bunch of them

36:31

weren't even cool. I

36:35

mean, if they weren't, then those would be the

36:37

ones that would be sad about. Okay, so how

36:39

many uncool kills do you think you did? You

36:41

put another one. I'm not trying to lie. It's

36:43

your question. You're asking me to account for something

36:45

I really wasn't even track of. I bet you

36:47

know every uncool kill you ever did. If

36:50

you ashamed, you know. I'm trying not to think about them.

36:52

Yeah, it's sad, isn't it? Yeah,

36:55

you know. You get an opportunity to

36:57

kill someone in a cool way. And if you know

36:59

you botch it, then it's like you can't kill them

37:01

again. You know, it's one and done.

37:04

It's a lost opportunity. Yeah.

37:08

So, you know what, maybe you can't

37:10

remember all of them. So let's choose some symbolic

37:12

ones and you can be torn for those. All

37:14

right. So I would say of all your uncool

37:17

kills, one of the three worst laugh

37:19

lines you said, trying to put it, you know how

37:21

you try to put a tag on it, make it

37:23

cool? Yeah, that's a big part of it. I bet

37:25

at least three of them you poop the bed. So

37:27

give me the worst three things you said to the

37:29

person right before they die. Or

37:31

immediately afterwards just yourself under your breath. There

37:34

is one guy who, you

37:38

know, he said like, who are you? And I was like, I'm your

37:40

dream guy. I'm

37:43

your worst night. You

37:45

dream about me. Because I think the exact

37:47

quote that I use, and I just did not, like I

37:49

really, like I'm trying to say something like your worst nightmare,

37:51

right? Like it's like a classic line. Yeah, you want to be spoofy.

37:53

But I tried to like spin it a little because like everyone says

37:55

it. So I wanted to be like extra, but I just told them

37:57

that I was a dream guy. Yeah,

38:00

yeah, which you know gave me the element of surprise

38:02

when he bought it, but I didn't

38:04

I don't think I didn't feel like I Needed it and who

38:06

was he? Who can sue knows? Flirted

38:12

with a murder. Are you a serial killer Queenie? No,

38:15

maybe I need to examine that what

38:17

makes a serial killer I usually

38:19

have to have killed three more

38:21

victims with the cool down period in between and

38:23

no specific reason It doesn't kind of be doing

38:25

for work. That just makes you a hit me.

38:28

Oh, well I don't just do that

38:30

on the battlefield, but just like you know, you walk around

38:32

you like Seems

38:36

like okay. Okay. Okay. That was exciting. I don't

38:38

do a lot of cool down I did you

38:40

one take a breather. I did do one of

38:42

those recently, but it wasn't a cop person who

38:45

was like a slime Who's

38:47

who's man? That's still a kill

38:49

that one goes on the list. Yeah. Yeah. No that

38:51

one You know, he didn't like wrong me

38:53

personally or anything like that, but he was like

38:55

part of an occupying force He was an necromancer

38:57

like, you know doing like that feels like a

38:59

lot of justification for you to just kill someone

39:01

to make yourself Feel alive. I didn't

39:03

wasn't make me to feel alive. It just make me feel

39:05

better about having lost a friend Yeah, see this

39:07

is why confession works and we use the sheet Which

39:12

is you should feel out without having to kill anybody that

39:15

death is the opposite of life. Yeah, I know

39:18

Yeah, but how would you embrace death to give more life? The

39:21

stuff that you know the the other

39:23

bad people from taking other people's lives Not the

39:25

interlecting again because you said you did this one

39:27

so you would feel more alive which made you

39:29

know I feel

39:31

the same level of alive. It was I was in

39:33

a bad mood and killing him helped me process like

39:35

grief So where did you start? Where'd you end up?

39:38

Where did I start and we're gonna end

39:40

up emotionally? I was like sad and

39:42

confused because I didn't understand what was going on with

39:44

Gary and what was what he was thinking about when

39:46

he died And you know,

39:48

I was like sad about like not getting to talk to him again That

39:52

and just knowing that it like happened here

39:54

in this city with all of these fuckers

39:56

around And so it

39:58

would be close to friends when he died Yeah, yeah, and so

40:00

I was like, you know, I'm gonna take out one of these guys

40:02

for Gary kind of thing Yeah, but we've

40:05

been doing it for Gary. Were you maybe doing

40:07

it for you? I mean for for me but

40:09

in the name of like as revenge against Gary

40:12

revenge for Gary Do you realize that I feel

40:14

like you're one of those guys who's like a

40:16

good liar So you can come up with a

40:18

story for anything but I have to start this

40:20

I'm not trying to lie to you right now

40:23

Cuz I feel like if someone found

40:25

out fucking butthole Then

40:27

this whole thing would just be an even bigger pain in

40:29

the ass next. Oh, that's interesting Cuz I mean then you

40:31

lied to yourself cuz you said at the beginning that

40:33

you killed this guy to make yourself feel better And

40:35

then at the end you said I'm doing it for

40:37

Gary, but that doesn't help you feel better

40:40

I feel very I Make

40:44

Gary he don't know this even happened He

40:47

was in bojala. How is he? He's

40:50

in fine. Oh Oh Can

40:52

I talk to him? No, unless

40:55

you keep doing confession and

40:57

then when you die you go bahala All

41:00

right, so how are we doing? Like

41:10

sex yeah What

41:15

what are the options on the sheet I did she

41:17

just it's a box I can fill in oh Yeah,

41:20

you tell me I'm running Don't

41:24

worry after confession I have to eat this Did

41:28

it go straight to bubble no one know confession

41:30

just between you and me unless you do bad

41:32

that I have to tell That

41:35

doesn't look but confessions just about me telling you

41:37

the bad I did then you have to feel

41:39

bad about it and do better I

41:42

tell you how though. So tell me the bad the

41:45

bad what kind of sex I've had Yeah, I mean

41:47

which parts of it you think were bad None

41:51

of it really I enjoyed all of it. Oh,

41:53

no sin there. Good job Okay,

41:55

you do any stealing oh, yeah,

41:58

actually that one on this form just says this Oh

42:00

great, my bubble seems not to have cared so much

42:02

and most other churches are cool with it now. I

42:06

did it right in the sheet. I

42:08

feel like that's a bit of a cop out. I

42:11

borrowed it. From who? Okay, I made

42:13

it up. Yeah, I thought so. Show me that.

42:15

I was going to say yeah. There's nothing on here but I tried

42:17

to write this next time. What had you written there? You've

42:19

drawn three goblins. I wrote three

42:21

goblins and then I wrote zero

42:24

to rock. And then I wrote down. And then

42:26

you circled the rock. Well yeah. Because that was

42:28

my answer, I see. Okay. And then there's

42:30

also a drawing of a rock. Right. Don't judge me.

42:32

I'm not here to answer to you. All

42:34

right. You have done 15 sins. All

42:37

of them. Fair bit. Okay. Can

42:40

you name the 15 sins? Just rattle them

42:42

off for me real quick. You did a murder

42:44

just to feel better. It doesn't make sense. Yeah, yeah. You

42:47

did at least three uncool kills. No, I was flipping them.

42:49

You don't know how many murders you did. Part

42:51

of your fornicated scene, maybe you lied about it.

42:53

You lied to me. You lied to yourself. Yeah.

42:56

You're here because you did murder. You're not

42:58

supposed to do this. You're in trouble. Okay,

43:00

yeah. You do lots

43:02

of stealing, which is not a sin. But I

43:04

bet you stole from friends before and that's a

43:06

sin. If we're doing the first confession, yeah, then

43:09

that's one that I do feel bad about now.

43:11

I bet you were disrespectful to your parents. I

43:16

mean, they got over it, but I guess. Yeah,

43:18

that's different. That's them being good, not you

43:21

being good. Well, because they're not over it.

43:23

You're bad about it, right? Yeah, you do.

43:25

Because you have to realize that you owe them a debt

43:27

and then pay back. On

43:31

the list of sins, you try to help

43:33

your friends after they're dead by murdering people.

43:35

That doesn't seem like a good habit. Well,

43:38

do better. Do better. You. Yeah.

43:42

You don't praise Bubhole

43:44

or Moon Hammer. I do not and I

43:46

will not. Yeah, so you're heathen. All right.

43:49

Then maybe you don't get to go to Bud Hall and you

43:51

never get to see Gary again. How's that feel? That

43:54

feels like a fucking ripoff and the whole

43:56

system is bullshit. Yeah, well,

43:58

I don't know why I expect an afterlife. be better than life.

44:00

It's just called after life. It's not called better

44:03

life. I'm not saying this

44:05

is better. I'm saying it sounds like some arbitrary rules of

44:07

someone with a blank piece of papers making up about who

44:09

I do and don't get to see when I die. You're

44:11

not saying you don't respect a church or me or you

44:13

don't respect rules. Alright, so that's 14. Now we have 16

44:16

total. And

44:18

I'm going to say from outside knowledge, you didn't

44:20

be a part of your daughter's life for like

44:22

most of her life on tell name. I do

44:24

feel bad about that. I feel bad about that,

44:26

Ginny. I like yell at the closed door. So

44:29

I'm going to say you got

44:32

to do 10 backflips.

44:35

You got to steal 100 gold and give it to your

44:38

daughter. I got to write this down. You got to steal

44:40

100 gold and give it to your parents. And you got

44:42

to say, sorry for the stuff

44:44

I did, but in your own words, don't have to

44:46

use my words. You

44:49

got to not do murders to try

44:52

to feel bitter anymore. Because that shit

44:54

is weird. Have

44:56

you even tried it? Listen,

45:01

Queenie, I'm a goblin. I killed

45:03

so many things. Okay. 10

45:05

years is plenty of time for the murders and I'm

45:07

on year 11. Oh,

45:09

wow. You're an old goblin. I'm old as

45:11

hell. And

45:14

for the final thing, you

45:17

got to help me figure out a form for confession

45:19

next time. I feel like I asked good questions, but

45:21

I can't remember them all. So I need you to

45:23

write down the questions that felt good for you and

45:25

felt like they helped you become a better person. I

45:27

like the accusations more than anything, but I guess that's

45:29

not what confession is about. It

45:31

could be between you and me. If you just come

45:33

in and just start being like, hey, I don't like

45:35

you're a bad person for these reasons to just like

45:37

anyone who needs confession. Like I feel like that saves

45:39

a lot of time. They don't have to tell you

45:42

anything. You just say, you know, you're bad. Yeah,

45:44

but I got to make sure I don't miss nothing. Okay. Okay.

45:46

What if we will sit down before and you tell

45:48

me the stuff that you want me to yell at you

45:50

about and then I'll just fucking go off. I

45:53

Mean, that still sounds just like confession, but we've added a step

45:55

now. You Berating me, but you're doing it anyway. Well, you said

45:57

it was your favorite part. I Don't want to lay you down.

45:59

Well, it took. I've got. I've been took the work

46:01

out of the for me but I one hundred goals

46:03

my daughter one hundred goes my parents ten back flips

46:06

it. I miss anything. Yeah I say you have to

46:08

do something. Uncool to make someone

46:10

else look cool. That's. How

46:12

you can help people do better when they alive which

46:14

is the best time to help them do better. Okay

46:16

load when we as a look on cool making someone

46:18

with a we can both look cool yeah that's him

46:21

that's about. You know about them. You. Got

46:23

show that you have no clue is

46:25

because. I

46:29

have to show humility by being on cool. Yeah,

46:32

you know I'm not saying you have to make

46:34

someone else. The. Hero of this a bitch. Nine

46:37

year old of them this at that and

46:39

why don't want to hear know Quinney highlight

46:41

reel our hear it when people come back

46:43

from Zambia they like quickly did all these

46:45

cool backward city save the kingdom everyone stood

46:47

around look like a dump now for the

46:49

case of and just slow disappointed with one

46:52

other than to and i want know what

46:54

the remember you're. right?

46:57

Okay, And

47:00

if I don't do these things I just wanna

47:02

understand like what some I have album all that

47:04

you're not going confesses be a bad boy is

47:06

aggressiveness. His confession We just you wait

47:08

you wait. confession of Rcb sorry And

47:11

do what you're told. Sorry.

47:15

Do what you to. Listen,

47:20

I'm sick of this getting up all

47:22

my fucking free time. You Gabi saw

47:24

everything is print Three goblin. Be

47:28

stored or not Gonna make up where the goblin

47:30

all my gear gone to a precise time You

47:32

did it. That's why you had to go legally

47:34

and now that as and religion is stupid. Hey

47:37

was. Twelve

47:39

Backflip said. Let's

47:42

make it fifteen. But. Make a twenty

47:44

five. Let's make a thirty. A

47:47

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47:49

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season on, civilized. Or not, it's

50:28

improvised, so you don't know. Barney,

50:31

please, no! It

50:34

has to be done for the good of the

50:36

children. Captain, is

50:39

it Beatrix or Beatrice? I'm so confused. I'll

50:41

tell you who it is. It's your mother!

50:46

I have summited the mountain, and

50:48

I declare this land for my

50:50

own. Barney, get down from the

50:52

roof! Every time. I

50:55

can't believe we made it into

50:57

space, Beatrice! Yeah, it's

50:59

been a long time coming, Al. Wait,

51:02

which version are you? Um, which version are you? So

51:06

you're saying we've been on Earth the whole time? Yeah,

51:09

man, it's like just a simulation.

51:12

Actually, we've been dead the whole time.

51:14

Actually, this is lost. Actually,

51:17

I'm lost. We

51:20

only have five seconds to defuse this

51:22

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51:24

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51:28

So join us on civilized season five

51:30

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51:33

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51:35

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51:39

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51:41

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51:46

Civilized season five begins May 31st,

51:48

2023. Tune

51:51

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