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Deshaun Watson, Rhamondre Stevenson, Rashee Rice, Nico Collins, Tyler Higbee: Weekly NFL News

Deshaun Watson, Rhamondre Stevenson, Rashee Rice, Nico Collins, Tyler Higbee: Weekly NFL News

Released Saturday, 22nd June 2024
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Deshaun Watson, Rhamondre Stevenson, Rashee Rice, Nico Collins, Tyler Higbee: Weekly NFL News

Deshaun Watson, Rhamondre Stevenson, Rashee Rice, Nico Collins, Tyler Higbee: Weekly NFL News

Deshaun Watson, Rhamondre Stevenson, Rashee Rice, Nico Collins, Tyler Higbee: Weekly NFL News

Deshaun Watson, Rhamondre Stevenson, Rashee Rice, Nico Collins, Tyler Higbee: Weekly NFL News

Saturday, 22nd June 2024
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quarterback and wide receiver depth

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charts here. Plus,

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Ramondre Stevenson, new fresh contract from New England. I

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am Chad Parsons. How about finishing off the week

0:44

with some news? The

0:47

news here, I know it's a dry season, but

0:49

we still have data points that are in flux

0:51

here affecting your Dynasty team. So

0:54

let's get right to it. First off, we have the New England Patriots. Bailey

0:57

Zappi may be coming to a close there

0:59

with New England. Joe Milton

1:01

performed well during spring practices. Obviously, a lot up in

1:03

the air. Let's not assume that Joe Milton is a

1:05

lock for that roster. But

1:08

you figure, hey, he's a new fresh face.

1:10

Bailey Zappi, he's played quite a bit, or

1:12

at least in terms of a day three

1:14

guy that has had some

1:16

opportunities. The Patriots should know to some extent

1:18

what they have there. A couple of reminders

1:21

here. First about Joe Milton. First

1:24

of all, I think a lot of

1:26

people overestimate what his rushing upside is.

1:29

There's a couple clips of him running in college. However,

1:32

there at Tennessee, Joe Milton, just a 5% scramble

1:34

rate and only a 10% scramble rate when under

1:36

pressure. Both

1:39

of those are well below average there. And

1:41

despite the fact that he's a big guy, a

1:44

lot of people, and myself included, I

1:46

thought there was some potential that he could be

1:48

an Anthony Richardson-like riser going into the NFL draft

1:50

process. That did not

1:52

occur in 2023. He did

1:54

not spike the ball in terms of

1:57

his career and finishing on a high note here. So

2:00

while he has a big arm, six,

2:02

five, two 45, and you know, an

2:05

athletic, uh, possibility, his rushing score of

2:07

24% clearly in my

2:09

projection model does not point to

2:11

a player from high school to

2:13

college and now projecting to the

2:16

pro as having big time rushing

2:18

upside. And we talk about someone

2:20

that has a high variance outcome,

2:22

someone that is really not shown

2:25

strong passing play so far in

2:27

their NFL, uh, preparatory lifestyle. Uh,

2:29

he lifeline here football wise,

2:32

that's pretty concerning for Joe Milton. So, but

2:34

I will say if he can't beat out

2:36

Bailey zappy, then that's pretty much going to

2:38

drive a steak, you know, in

2:41

the, should you have Joe Milton on

2:43

a, on a dynasty roster outside of

2:45

some deeper, uh, deeper taxi designation there.

2:47

So that's going to be something key

2:50

in August we watched for and of

2:52

these ancillary, you know, secondary market sort

2:54

of guys, not the, the overt, you

2:56

know, top 25 3035 rookies,

2:58

let's say that you've been drafting and rookie

3:01

drafts. I would say Joe Milton is on one

3:03

of those lists that we're going to get to see

3:05

him play a lot, you know, a lot in the

3:07

second half of some of these, uh, preseason games, and

3:09

that's going to be key because frankly, he's going to

3:12

be one that's on ice and we're not going to

3:14

see him or shouldn't see him much during the regular

3:16

season here in 2024. So that's

3:18

a key depth chart and a key

3:20

news item. Again, that we should know

3:23

Bailey's appy versus Joe Milton. Obviously Joe

3:25

Milton, the new name Bailey's appy probably

3:27

not rostered all that much in dynasty

3:29

or shouldn't be coming out of

3:31

Cleveland here also on the quarterback front to

3:33

Sean Watson had a schedule, uh, with

3:35

his shoulder in terms of a recovery

3:37

from surgery, according to the general manager,

3:40

Andrew Berry. Uh, a

3:42

couple points here. Jamis Winston should

3:44

be a highly valued super

3:46

flex player. We rostered him all the way

3:48

back, uh, from a couple of different stops ago,

3:51

he was in the saints for a while.

3:53

And we, I actually really wanted to see him

3:55

play with the saints because one of the things

3:57

is Derek Carr, where's the ceiling? Is he lifting?

4:00

the lid on this offense, the answer

4:02

to that was no. James Winston finds

4:04

another good backup spot, very savvy for

4:06

him to go to Cleveland as DeShawn

4:08

Watson. And if you heard on Under

4:11

the Helmet in recent shows, Dr.

4:14

Jesse Morse was on talking about how

4:16

DeShawn Watson's shoulder really isn't going to

4:18

be right going forward, period. Now, that

4:21

doesn't mean he can't adapt. It doesn't

4:23

mean he can't adjust his throwing motion

4:25

to some degree. And it

4:27

doesn't mean that he's going to be someone that can't

4:30

be very fantasy, relevant and productive. But

4:32

what it does mean is you're going

4:34

to hold your breath a

4:36

little more than you would with other

4:38

quarterbacks when he gets grabbed and thrown

4:41

down or tackled and driven to the

4:43

ground, especially on that shoulder. And

4:45

so that's a real concern here. And if

4:48

you were making probability bets on what

4:50

starters are most likely to miss some

4:52

element of games, DeShawn Watson would be

4:54

one of the higher guys on the

4:56

list. And the reason for

4:58

that is also he doesn't run safely. He

5:01

runs like a running back. He gets

5:03

tackled in a legitimate fashion, not sliding,

5:05

not going out of bounds enough, as

5:07

you would think, a quarterback that should

5:09

be wary about his health, that should

5:11

be wary about his shoulder and just

5:14

move on to the next play. This

5:16

is not third down in the second

5:18

half of a playoff game for the

5:20

Cleveland Browns. This is just run of

5:22

the mill games in September, October, and

5:24

he's running with that same in my

5:27

opinion, reckless style. So this is one

5:29

of the backup situations with James

5:31

Winston that is absolutely one

5:33

we saw Joe Flacco be

5:35

successful a year ago. And

5:37

James Winston's one that has

5:39

had monster fantasy productive seasons

5:42

here in terms of yardage and plenty

5:44

of touchdowns and certainly has the weapons

5:46

in Cleveland to do so again. On

5:50

the running back front, Ramon Ray

5:52

Stevenson, big four year contract extension

5:55

with plenty of money up front,

5:57

some guarantees. One thing

5:59

I will say about this is

6:01

Remondre Stevenson, a sneaky 26.6 years

6:04

old and one that I'm a little surprised

6:06

by this in terms of the Patriots doing

6:08

it. I know, you know, retain your own

6:10

and they had the money to do it.

6:13

They're now restarted on a rookie

6:15

quarterback contract and they didn't have big

6:17

money invested in the veteran in Jacoby

6:19

Brissett on the contract on the, on

6:21

the depth chart either. However, two things

6:23

I would point out, Antonio Gibson, if

6:26

he does one thing really well, it's

6:28

a receiver. He played that basically

6:30

at Memphis. So I, and he was given

6:32

a decent contract as well. Not as big

6:35

as Remondre Stevenson, of course, just now, but

6:37

Gibson was brought in and provides that element.

6:39

The other thing, and again, I'm going to

6:41

give a couple of snapshot, uh, bullet points

6:44

here, but I, I recorded a whole show,

6:46

uh, earlier, uh, last week when Remondre Stevenson

6:48

was signed and doing a future cast on

6:50

him. If you're unfamiliar with that, it basically

6:53

breaks down, uh, what is his

6:55

UTH valuation going to be in rankings? What's

6:57

it going to be in the UTH trade

6:59

calculator? If he has, you know, a

7:01

running back one season this year or running back

7:03

two season or running back three plus season, what's

7:05

that going to look like when we basically accelerate

7:07

ahead to next off season and the

7:10

surprising thing, or maybe unsurprisingly, but his value

7:12

didn't change a whole lot. Like even if

7:14

he has a top 12 season, it would

7:16

be a career year for, for Stevenson because

7:18

he's 26 going on 27

7:20

for, for next off season. That

7:22

really is a limiting element.

7:24

So I think from a dynasty perspective, again, if you

7:27

want to boost him for redraft and say, this is

7:29

really good news for what his market share is

7:31

going to be this year, fine. But I

7:33

would say dynasty wise, just know he's essentially

7:35

a declining asset at a position that you

7:38

really do want to be careful with the

7:40

price you pay. Now, uh, one other thing

7:42

is he's really not being traded for first.

7:45

So that's not really in play. If you

7:47

are to get a first, it's going to

7:49

have to be with a towards start to

7:51

the season, a top 12 looking season. And

7:54

it is on an offense that isn't projected

7:56

to be very good unless we get a

7:58

big time outcome. That.

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22:00

some players some slack, especially

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if they're sample size career-wise is they

22:05

are a good player. Now,

22:07

you come into this year

22:09

of a startup draft, or you come into

22:11

this year in terms of your redraft teams,

22:14

and you're not open to the value that

22:16

they present because of some microcosm view that

22:18

you have of them from last year in

22:20

the playoffs or two years ago, or

22:25

they were at a different price point last year and

22:27

they burned you. You spend a third round pick, well,

22:29

this year they might be an eighth round pick in

22:31

your redraft. So I would say

22:34

really have a balanced view of

22:36

them. And if you are having

22:38

some awareness here, if you are

22:41

dinging them unnecessarily so, and it's

22:43

based on some storyboard like that,

22:46

really assess because to some

22:48

degree, I do say that

22:50

in fantasy, the whole point is you should enjoy

22:52

your team, you should have players that you would

22:55

want to root for. I would say the other

22:57

more pragmatic, and this is where I lie, and

22:59

this is where a lot

23:01

of my co-hosts and people that I record with

23:03

on regular basis reside, which is

23:05

we're also in it to win and do well,

23:08

perform, ROI, make money in

23:11

addition to enjoying it. And a lot more people

23:14

enjoy doing well, I would say than doing poorly

23:16

even if you did it with, well,

23:18

I love the Steelers and I have four

23:20

Steelers on my fantasy team. Well, you may

23:22

like them a little less if you're one

23:24

in five on your fantasy team, but you have all your

23:27

favorite players is what I would say. So

23:30

really kind of soul search on

23:32

if you are avoiding guys, is

23:35

it for one of these reasons? Is it because of

23:37

a super small sample size that you're

23:40

plucking away from your memory and from

23:42

their game blog and saying this is

23:44

the reason, assess them just on broad

23:46

value, whether that's in a dynasty sense

23:48

of here's what it costs to, and

23:51

I would say the opportunity cost of owning

23:53

them because we have an optionality to trade

23:55

them away. We have an optionality to see

23:57

what's out there and pivot in the marketplace.

24:00

Even if no one's coming to you

24:02

directly and offering you for the player,

24:04

you can go out there and hunt

24:06

and find something different as well

24:09

anytime that trading period is open. So that's how

24:11

I would talk through, again, not drafting players in

24:13

general that have burned you in the past. It's

24:16

tricky. It's fickle, I understand, and holding

24:19

that, especially if you've lost a couple

24:21

key semi-final or

24:23

final matchups a year ago or at some

24:25

point and you dial it to that specific

24:27

player with a tractor beam and the

24:30

heat of a thousand suns in your eyes, I get it.

24:34

But just know that's one game

24:36

that's a collection of routes or

24:39

passes or carries or

24:41

getting stuffed to the one yard line a couple times

24:43

or anything like that. That

24:46

is a very small fraction of their

24:48

career, the profile they have built, and

24:51

it resets. It's a whole

24:53

new environment as they roll out the

24:55

ball this year. So just keep that

24:57

in mind because I would say, going

25:00

back to one phrase I said, is a

25:03

lot of people will have more fun in your

25:06

fantasy and dynasty leagues. If you're

25:08

winning, you're beating your league mates,

25:10

you're beating your friends, you're performing well, you're

25:12

making the playoffs, you're making a run, and

25:15

if you have to have a different player on your team

25:17

as opposed to your favorite player or someone

25:19

that burned you in the past, they may

25:21

be the linchpin for you getting over the

25:23

hump this year. I'm

25:26

Chad Parsons. Thank you so much for listening.

25:28

Back to guests as we go Monday through

25:30

Friday this coming week. Got some great guests

25:32

lined up. Just as a point of

25:34

reference, some of those guests we

25:37

have are, Shane is the

25:39

worst over there. We did Rapid Fire coming

25:41

up. That'll be on Monday. It's

25:44

basically a double episode, so extra long version

25:46

with him. We talk so many different things

25:48

like dynasty formats. And actually, one critical question

25:50

at the end I asked him, which is,

25:52

how much money would it take? For

25:55

him to give up all things NFL, dynasty,

25:58

fantasy related.

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