Julie Reiner is one of John’s bar heroes. Although he never formally worked for her, she had a tremendous impact on his career. In the course of his research for Saved by the Bellini, he came across a New York Times article from 2000 in which Julie was quoted for her Appletini recipe. Listen to them chat about Julie’s favorite Appletini spec and dive deeper into the actual bartending conditions in the 90s. (Spoiler alert: they weren’t as bad as everyone thinks!)

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