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up though. 35
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years ago today, pro-democracy protesters were
1:51
massacred in and around Tiananmen Square
1:53
in Beijing. In
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mainland China, the events of June 4th, 1989 have since
1:57
been erased. The
2:00
History Books. But in
2:02
Hong Kong, the anniversary was a
2:04
day for remembrance. A
2:11
video. Was held every year to commemorate
2:13
the crackdown and thousands of people would
2:15
light candles in Victoria Park in the
2:18
heart of the city. But
2:23
was until recently in
2:25
Twenty Twenty. The gathering with
2:27
and understand emmett restrictions and soon
2:30
afterwards aging imposed to Coney a
2:32
national Security law on the territory
2:34
crossings had a demonstrations about June
2:37
the fourth or anything else. Today
2:40
a seed fat is taking place in
2:42
Victoria Park where the town I'm and
2:44
Dad who once remembered. The
2:47
muzzling of Hong Kong vigil. Is
2:49
evidence of a big a trace the
2:51
crossing of political Freedom in the Talent
2:53
tree. And. The imposition of government will
2:55
is playing out in the court. T.
2:59
So. Over three years ago now
3:01
agreed pretty prominent trademarks. The access
3:03
he became known as the From
3:05
Com Forty seven were arrested. For
3:07
crimes against the state. And.
3:10
The Irving is our Asia News Edison
3:12
and that I ended on Thursday and
3:15
fourteen of them were connected to Ramsey
3:17
across it ends and other such he
3:19
runs had already pleaded guilty. And
3:22
this who comes at a really sensitive times the
3:24
Hong Kong because it's when the city would normally
3:26
be preparing for during the fourth. Commemoration.
3:29
What were these activists on trial for?
3:31
Emma? Well. Bagging
3:33
Twenty Twenty say held an unofficial primary
3:36
to try to pick pro democracy candidates
3:38
that fateful would have a really good.
3:40
Chance of winning a majority in an election
3:42
that were scheduled for later that year. And
3:45
they wanted to use the control I got
3:47
my election to try to demand great democracy.
3:50
Or. Supposed the government budget which would
3:52
have forced the resignation that the chief
3:54
executive. He. Was some uncle pylon
3:56
his by Beijing at that time. Law.
3:58
Is the second wave. After the implementation
4:01
of national Supreme law other than
4:03
have to represented by Oliver and
4:05
left a single realize that people
4:07
in Hong Kong she's not of
4:09
how how's he tried. Using it
4:11
as my civil rights and my
4:14
responsibility to come out and to
4:16
represent myself and and other similar
4:19
for under a national security law
4:21
that Beijing Poussin? Yeah. Saw.
4:23
Activity basically became tantamount
4:25
to sebastian. Where. Is
4:28
the defendants lawyers would say that really? What
4:30
a dumbass? Just kind of normal fiscal dealing
4:32
the next from his then. Who's paying
4:34
for every year? which am guess or
4:36
he said but because his pivot nineteen
4:39
measures are. In not time, they also
4:41
arrested the Forty Seven and they changed
4:43
the rules to. Exclude there is
4:45
not deemed patriotic to Beijing from
4:48
politics. But. This
4:50
isn't just the bass excluding a group
4:52
of people from the political process, Is
4:54
it what to the convictions mean for
4:56
the territory? Thought they
4:58
really represent that kind of on getting
5:01
strangulation as any kind. Of to send in
5:03
Hong Kong. You. Know. The government
5:05
initially said that the national security laws to
5:07
be used sparingly. But at least two
5:09
hundred and forty four people have been arrested. undress,
5:11
and son. And Nj say that
5:13
thousands more have been charged on the separate
5:15
laws. The application. To democracy. And
5:18
none of those accused under the. National Security law
5:20
had gone to trial. Was found innocent
5:22
until the to acquittals that we saw. On
5:24
Thursday last week. So. Those
5:27
two acquittals quite interesting to name
5:29
suggests that some kind of justice
5:31
is actually happening in Hong Kong.
5:33
Possibly. There's still a very
5:36
strong, independent legal system and the majority
5:38
of cases, but when it comes to
5:40
the National Security law, you know that
5:42
was a one hundred percent conviction rate
5:45
until Thursday. Possibly. They to
5:47
acquittals d just sit There is still a
5:49
bit of independence even when it comes to
5:51
than national security door. Others
5:53
have suggested that the government was that she
5:56
just getting embarrassed about the conviction, race or
5:58
their it has already said that it will
6:00
appeal and been granted getting less in Hong
6:02
Kong and March. Third party as unite is
6:05
a new national security door saying is Ah
6:07
School Twenty Three which broadens and runs alongside
6:09
say existing law. And paid by Beijing. And
6:11
twenty twenty. And. Has article twenty
6:14
three been changing things for protesters in Hong
6:16
Kong? particularly in the run up to do
6:18
in the fourth. File. Last
6:20
week we saw the first arrests under
6:22
the new measure. They were
6:24
related to some social media posts
6:26
about that scene fourth anniversary of
6:28
tournaments Square and one of those
6:30
arrested blaze tell her tongue who
6:33
was one of the organizer original
6:35
organize as as the vigils. He's.
6:37
Already imprisoned for other national scarce
6:39
your charge as and he's also
6:42
arrested her mom. and yes, They
6:44
are see arrested her uncle to to he
6:46
became the. Eight person's the arrested
6:48
on. To the needle. So. All of
6:50
that has really meant that the atmosphere
6:52
in the city ahead of the Sharon
6:55
I'm an anniversary has been one as
6:57
sort of quiet resignation. As one
6:59
person who attended The Visuals almost every year when
7:01
they were running. Told me. Good.
7:03
Receivers World. Which
7:06
were. Security
7:09
risk group from overburdened
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some clues if you
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embarrass. You. Zero.
7:18
Brooklyn Bridge Scotus during.
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The two birds birds, birds
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true. True.
7:27
But. Sports. Said. As a real
7:30
sense said people are very on at ten. Am
7:32
I your painting at grammar and grim?
7:35
A picture of Hong Kong? It sounds
7:37
increasingly like mainland China. Is there a
7:39
difference though between the two. I
7:42
think in terms of political freedom not
7:44
really dead national scares. You know that
7:46
bringing Hong Kong in the mainland as
7:48
a closer together an article twenty three
7:51
will probably ensure that the last. And.
7:53
There's a judicial independence. Settle out.
7:56
and as we see with the town of
7:58
and square remember and For many
8:01
years, 30 years, that was a
8:03
sort of really clear example of the
8:05
way in which Hong Kong was far
8:07
more independent than the mainland. And
8:10
the fact that now remembrance of Hong Kong, not
8:12
just in terms of the vigils, but even in
8:14
terms of books about the
8:16
massacre, for example, being removed from
8:18
bookshelves, all the kind
8:20
of memories of Tiananmen are being smashed
8:22
out. And that's bringing Hong Kong several
8:24
much closer to the mainland. Emma,
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thank you so much for your time. Thank
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I say pioneering spirit, you'll be
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thinking, America, right? From
9:51
the light bulb to the motor car,
9:53
processed food to, well, the Internet. Innovation
9:56
has been core to America's
9:58
strength and identity. What
10:00
was the core of this? What was the seed?
10:02
What is the essence of Microsoft? I think there's
10:05
a lot of elements that go into it. A
10:07
vision of what software could do. What was your
10:09
vision? Well, a computer on every
10:11
desk and in every home. This is one
10:13
device. And
10:19
he is calling it iPhone.
10:23
The world has been under this illusion
10:25
that electric cars cannot be as good
10:27
as gasoline cars. That if you have
10:29
to go with an electric car, you're
10:32
accepting a product that's worse. What
10:35
the Model S is fundamentally about is breaking
10:37
that illusion. But more recently, not
10:39
so much. America seemed to
10:41
lose something of its entrepreneurial verve.
10:45
In the early 80s, nearly 40% of
10:48
American firms were startups less than five years
10:50
old. By
10:52
2018, that share fell to 29%. Now
10:57
the dasle is back. There
11:00
was a big increase in startups in 2020-2021 at the
11:02
start of the pandemic. Simon
11:07
Rabinovich is our U.S. economics editor. And
11:10
that might be expected because of the many
11:12
disruptions to life and the ways that people were trying to
11:15
reinvent the ways of working. The
11:17
surprising thing is that the increase
11:20
in startups has continued, such that
11:22
at this point, you could say America is really in the
11:24
midst of a world. It's
11:26
a full-fledged startup boom. So
11:29
Americans are finding their entrepreneurial spirit
11:31
again. That's pretty exciting stuff. Yeah,
11:35
and it might seem a little bit odd to
11:37
some listeners because America is always sort of thought
11:39
of as a go-getting country. The
11:42
early 2000s brought us Facebook, Instagram,
11:44
Twitter type of companies. But
11:47
really, for quite some time, economists have been
11:49
concerned that although you've got these big tech
11:51
giants, the startup culture
11:54
in America had begun to weaken. If
11:57
you look at the numbers over the last four
11:59
years, the increase in the numbers has continued. increase
12:01
in business formation is about 80% compared
12:04
to what it was before the pandemic. It
12:07
works out to about 5.5 million
12:09
companies being established annually in America.
12:12
Other parts of the world, including
12:14
Europe, have seen some increase in
12:16
startups, but nowhere nearly on the
12:18
same scale as what America has
12:20
seen. 5.5
12:22
million companies is a lot. What are they actually
12:25
doing? Many of the
12:27
companies aren't going to be the
12:29
next Silicon Valley meta-style company. Many
12:32
are fairly small people who are starting
12:35
up food trucks or starting a
12:37
catering service or a small accountancy,
12:39
but there are also amidst the
12:41
5.5 million, some that potentially will
12:43
grow into bigger and more important
12:45
enterprises. What's interesting is that when
12:48
you look at the change in the nature of
12:50
these companies in 2020, 2021, at the height of
12:52
the pandemic, a
12:55
lot of the startups were catering to the
12:57
working from home revolution, online retailing, that
12:59
kind of thing. Since
13:01
mid-2022, there's been quite a discernible
13:04
shift where many of the more
13:06
promising startups are tech companies, often
13:08
ones that have some
13:10
application related to artificial
13:12
intelligence. So aside
13:14
from the people starting companies from their
13:17
bedrooms during the pandemic, are we seeing
13:19
basically a kind of new Silicon Valley
13:21
rush? What are the
13:23
notable characteristics about the current trend of
13:25
startups? Is that it's actually much
13:28
more broadly based? Yes, there
13:30
obviously have been important companies such as
13:32
OpenAI coming out of Silicon Valley, but
13:34
in fact, it's incredibly dispersed nationally. Partly
13:36
that goes back to the pandemic. You
13:38
had so many talented people who chose
13:40
to live in smaller communities and of
13:42
course with the rise of remote work.
13:45
That helped to spread talent
13:47
throughout the country. A second factor is
13:49
that the job market is incredibly tight
13:51
right now and that has given people the
13:53
confidence to go out and start a new job,
13:55
start a new company. If it doesn't work out,
13:57
they can go back to what they were doing.
14:00
before. And when you
14:02
look at technology like AI, it's
14:04
not just the big companies that
14:06
you've heard about in Silicon Valley.
14:08
It's lots of smaller companies that
14:10
are catering to smaller businesses or
14:12
smaller niche consumer platforms that are
14:14
looking at ways to apply it.
14:16
I went to Greenville, South Carolina.
14:18
It's a small city, a population
14:20
of about 50,000. It's not the
14:24
kind of place that's known for its entrepreneurship.
14:26
You now have a real cluster of tech
14:29
companies that have started up there. I
14:31
looked at one company that was
14:33
developing earrings as wearable tech to
14:35
help women to monitor their health,
14:37
to monitor their menstrual cycles. I
14:39
looked at another company that was
14:41
using AI to help small businesses
14:43
manage overly cluttered inboxes. And Greenville
14:46
was just one city that I went to. I could
14:48
have gone to any number of cities, Boise, Provo,
14:53
Providence, they're all to varying
14:55
degrees seeing similar startup booms.
14:58
Wow, earrings that measure menstrual cycles
15:01
definitely sounds like something to be
15:03
celebrated. But how sustainable is this
15:05
rise in new startups really? There
15:08
is always a question about the sustainability of
15:10
things. So you have lots of companies that
15:12
are now trying to get their workers to
15:14
come back into the office more often. So
15:16
you can imagine that could put
15:18
a little bit of sand in the gears.
15:20
Another big issue is funding
15:22
for all of these startups. One of
15:24
the things that's happened over the last
15:26
few years is that interest rates have
15:28
gone up dramatically. And that's had spillover
15:31
effects for funding for startups, venture capital
15:33
funding, which is for slightly more mature,
15:35
you know, startups, while there is lots
15:37
and lots of fundraising early on during
15:39
the pandemic. Starting last year, VC
15:42
funding fell sharply in America. And
15:44
so that could ultimately prove to
15:46
be a constraint. So
15:48
far, at least because the big
15:51
VCs had done so much aggressive
15:53
fundraising, when interest rates were a
15:55
lot lower, They're still sitting on
15:57
a lot of dry gun powder, which means that.
16:00
If you are promising start up. The
16:02
hurdle might be a little bit higher,
16:04
but you probably still can find willing
16:06
investors. Good. News: If you've
16:08
got funding, What about if you don't
16:11
have funding or you're not ready to
16:13
launch your own wearable tech or ai?
16:15
Some. Other any benefits to the
16:17
rest of the economy. Where. It's
16:20
really important for the rest of America
16:22
and ultimately for the rest of the
16:24
world as well because the more that
16:26
you have new company's coming up with
16:28
new ideas and challenging established companies had
16:30
can evade themselves More that generates throws
16:32
the more that generates new job as
16:34
I hope for the also will pay
16:36
slightly higher wages. Now there is an
16:39
important note here which is that so
16:41
far the economic data as not registered
16:43
this kind of a positive impact so
16:45
he can see the sort of being
16:47
formed but we can't see the lock.
16:49
On consequences for economic growth, One
16:51
possibility is that to a certain
16:53
extent this might be a repeat
16:56
of the noise in the eighties
16:58
that I did. Eighties observers could
17:00
see that personal computers were beginning
17:02
to spread thread the economy businesses
17:04
were shifting their models. Mobile phones
17:07
are just over the horizon. it's
17:09
but it wasn't until the midnight
17:11
you know indies that the economic
17:13
impact of all those innovations really
17:15
percolated through Tess, the efficiency with
17:17
which the American economy was operating.
17:20
And maybe something similar is at play right
17:22
there where the start of boom started. And
17:24
Twenty Twenty and it's continues until now, but
17:26
it's really dark and obese until the end
17:28
of this decade that you really see it
17:30
paying dividends for the economy at large. So
17:32
these startups, they're still very young. Let's give
17:35
them a few years to make their mark.
17:38
Twenty two times he didn't. Think
17:41
he rosie. Two
17:58
men deserve to out of. window
18:00
one day to see the ideal
18:02
man. Anne
18:04
Rowe is the Economist's obituaries editor.
18:09
She was at the time
18:11
busy painting for past presidents
18:13
of the Royal Society of
18:15
Engineers and suddenly there was
18:17
this face in the background which actually
18:19
she thought would be a wonderful one
18:22
to draw. She
18:24
opened the window and said
18:26
to the chap who was discovered and was
18:28
busy about his work just putting up the
18:30
tubes. She said would you like to sit
18:33
for me and he said yes. Most
18:40
of her career was not spent in quite
18:42
such a random way. She
18:48
was famous for painting all the grandees
18:50
of the land, for example
18:53
the royals. She did Prince
18:55
Philip three times, Diana twice,
18:58
Charles three times and the Queen five
19:00
times. She got very good at painting
19:03
pearls. After
19:08
that she did generals, archbishops,
19:11
sporting personalities, entertainers,
19:13
great musicians. She
19:16
was very very busy but
19:19
about a third of her productions were
19:21
what she called her pick-ups which was
19:23
when she went out into a restaurant
19:25
or the street or in shops and
19:28
just saw a really fascinating face. Her
19:32
gift for catching a likeness wasn't anything
19:34
she'd learned to do. She reckoned
19:36
she was just born with it like perfect
19:39
pitch but her
19:41
childhood was spent touring around
19:44
theatre productions in Australia because her
19:46
parents were theatre musicians and
19:49
she was the little girl backstage
19:51
who had a drawing book and all
19:53
she wanted to do was sketch the
19:55
interesting faces she saw performing. In
19:58
fact at 14 in her
20:00
school uniform she also went to life
20:03
classes but she didn't turn her hair
20:05
at all at seeing naked men she
20:07
was just interested in faces and bodies.
20:16
She was very strict with her sitters. They
20:21
always wanted to wear something smart or
20:23
some favorite rather over the top jacket
20:25
or that sort of thing but she
20:27
wanted to do them as they seemed
20:29
most relaxed. Whenever
20:31
they sat to pose for her they would
20:34
be pretty tense at first but then there'd
20:36
be a break or something would happen and
20:38
immediately they'd relax and she would say to
20:40
herself that's it and pounce with
20:42
her brush capture them.
20:45
Her formal
20:49
artistic training
20:51
was really almost none. She went for two spells at art
20:53
college, didn't really learn anything. She moved
20:56
to London and like many Australians she headed
20:58
up in Elle's court
21:01
with a single gas ring and not much more money
21:03
than the bus fare and she began to paint to
21:08
bring in money and also as barter she bartered one
21:10
picture for some cough syrup and
21:12
another for a fur coat. She did get a
21:14
paying job at last when she became the illustrator for the
21:17
Belle of the Ballet
21:22
comic strip in Girl magazine. She did
21:24
that for five years but it
21:26
was really the painting that was making her
21:28
reputation and in the end she was rushed
21:30
off her feet with commission. She
21:33
would drive herself and
21:35
the easel the length and breadth of the country to wherever her
21:38
sitters were and lug the easel up and down stairs herself even into old
21:40
age and while she was bringing
21:46
up her family she would race around the
21:48
country in just the same way. She seemed
21:50
to have indomitable energy. As
22:01
she painted, she made some very
22:03
good friends, wonderful friends. And
22:07
this was partly because of the intimacy of
22:09
the situation. It was a good place to
22:11
chat. She always chatted a lot.
22:13
They could have conversations. They knew
22:15
they were confidential. But
22:17
there were also long, companionable silences
22:19
when she was working and the
22:22
sitter too was working, helping
22:24
her to achieve the task.
22:27
And the only person she found she
22:29
really couldn't connect with was Margaret Thatcher.
22:32
She found her so controlling and
22:34
so rigid that there was
22:37
nothing there, she said. And
22:39
she was rather dissatisfied with the picture that came
22:41
out of that. In
22:46
fact, she was very rarely satisfied with anything
22:48
she did because she was
22:50
always aware of the balance
22:53
she wanted to strike between getting a
22:55
really good likeness, which needed energy
22:57
and dynamism and had to appear
23:00
to be a good likeness to the sitter
23:02
and to anyone who knew the sitter and
23:05
making a great painting. Was
23:15
she trying perhaps to catch the soul
23:17
in her subjects? And was that why
23:19
she kept going back to ordinary people?
23:22
Because there was a way there in which she
23:24
could focus on the
23:27
energy of someone whose background she didn't
23:29
know at all. No,
23:31
she said she thought it was rather pompous
23:33
to talk about capturing the soul. She
23:36
just found wonderful faces to
23:39
draw. And one of
23:41
those was the scaffolder who
23:43
had appeared to her that morning. And
23:45
his picture ended up in a special
23:47
People's Project exhibition in Gerten College, Cambridge.
23:53
Where he hung beside a
23:56
coracormaker and a blacksmith and
23:59
a wheeler dealer. all sorts of
24:01
people painted by other artists, and
24:04
looked as proud and happy in his
24:06
work as anyone could wish for. In
24:10
fact, June Mendoza thought
24:12
he could quite justifiably hang beside
24:14
the Queen. Anne
24:21
Rowe on June Mendoza, who has died
24:23
aged 99. That's
24:33
all for this episode of The
24:35
Intelligence. Let us know what
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you think of the show. You can get in touch
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