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Welcome to Podcast of

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this Escape. The

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podcast where we talk about the escape room that

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we escaped from in the previous episode of this

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podcast. Not only did

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we not escape, we actually imprisoned.

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We- hahaha it's a trailing room.

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Thank you so much, Spencer, for running the room. That was

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fantastic. Yeah, thank you. Thanks for

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playing it. You guys did great. It was a lot of

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fun. I have no fear in saying not

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like any of the rooms that I have written

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for this season. Hahaha. That's

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good. Well that was lovely. Yeah,

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so we got through it. It

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was very fun. Do

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you want to talk a little bit about like what

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was your inspiration for coming up with this room? Tell

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us the how. I would. I

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would love to. So the

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concept for this room was actually the

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escape room that I was designing in

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real life when we wound up shutting

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down the escape room that I

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own in real life. Almost

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all of it changed to be in an

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audio form. Go it, go it.

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Yeah, it used to be a kindergarten classroom so

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you'd be like manipulating objects instead of getting

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notes and reading things. But

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yeah, the class pet was missing. There's

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a couple gags that I had planned that I

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put in this one like the Steven, the science

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man. There's no reason for

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there to be like an intro jingle. It was

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not helpful at all. But I really wanted that

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gag. I've been dreaming about that gag.

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Oh, it's lovely. I do. That

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was great. The only frustrating part is again,

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not a show of our childhoods. So I

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have no idea how closely referential it is.

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True, true. Very Bill

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Nye, but that doesn't mean much to us. So

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now I guess we have to go and watch some of

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that to find out. You'll

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love it. It's great. And

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then, yes, so there was, yes, there was going

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to be a moment in the real

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life version of the game where you had a

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shoebox that you had to pretend like it was

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locked and you couldn't get into it. And

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as soon as you pretended that it was going to be like

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your childlike sense of wonder is back and the lights

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grow dim and now when you go into the cardboard

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castle it takes you to the other room which is

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going to be this whole cardboard land. And

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you're going to get to talk to a little

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very crude animatronic giant

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class pet and the game master was going to have a little

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voice changer and talk to you and stuff like that. We

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actually, we were recently in LA

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and we played a room that

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had puppetry in it. So it had

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game master puppets so you could have

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chats with animal characters and things like that. It

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was great fun. It was very novelty. It was

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quite something. Quest room. Yeah,

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this was a quest room in LA and it

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was very, very fun. If

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you're around and you haven't done it, go and check it

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out. No, I really want to. It

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was great fun. What's it called? Maladdiction? Maladdiction

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at the quest room. That was very

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entertaining. But yeah, no, that's very cool. So

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obviously this was a very cool concept for

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a physical escape room and very ambitious,

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I suppose, to get that all to work. Did

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it feel ambitious as you were doing it? There

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was even more ambitious things to it. The

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whole final puzzle was supposed to be a real

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life game of the board game mousetrap that you

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would have to set up. Oh my god. Because

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the setup was that you would get the pet

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to pop out of the hiding spot, but they

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would only pop out when you were all on

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the other side of the room. So

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while on the other side of the room, you had to drop

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a little cage and it was all going to be set up.

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Like a solar system planet on the ceiling.

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That was very cool. So

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it was certainly a mission.

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Oh, and then there was going to be

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the previous teacher, Mr. Kimball, was

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going to be a character, but he was going to

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have left you little video messages that he

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had recorded

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over these little like leapfrog

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jumpstart learning cartridges. And

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so he could only record like 30 seconds at a time. So

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he had to keep on doing this. Oh,

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that's great. That's such a fun idea.

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I really like that. That sounds small,

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but I think that's really nice. I

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had so much fun actually converting it into the

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audio based escape room in writing it

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into the audio version and changing a lot

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of stuff. The whole concept of I never

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actually tell you what animal meatball

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is. And regardless of which one

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you would have chosen, she would have been very upset. I'm

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glad that I was so disconcerted

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by not knowing the entire time.

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It's a Schrodinger's hamster sort of. Yeah,

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I was going to say, because we got we got we got

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imprisoned for calling her a hamster instead of a gerbil. But if

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we call her a gerbil, she would have been a hamster. Yes,

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if you called her a gerbil, she

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would have been upset that

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you thought she had like a gross long

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tail and that she

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was active. You thought she'd be

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active in the daytime, like all you broth humans. Like

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no, she's evolved to live in the 90s. That

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is fun. Did you have guinea pig in there as well? I

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did not actually. Because we're in

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the whole system. I don't know

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anything about guinea pigs. I just say that and I

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just improvise. I've

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never even been to Guinea. You

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think I need to live in

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pairs for my socialization. I'm

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a lone wolf, baby. It

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was a lot of fun to get through the room. I

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think one of the things that got us early on

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is one of the things that we've. sort

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of noticed for ourselves in

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the audio format, especially like over time

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over doing a lot of these is we

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can be a lot like we get we've sort of

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pared down a lot of the description of rooms or

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like the number of objects. Because

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we sort of go look if we say it's

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a classroom we can rely people will put

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the classroom picture in their head so we

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kind of but this had a lot more

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gave us the details of classroom. It

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was a hundred percent guarantee that we

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were visualizing the same class which

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was which was lovely and it just took us a little

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while to get back into that mindset because once we got

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about halfway through the room we had a lot more like

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okay so they'll be like that's the element of these as

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well. It's just to let them out the

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rest was all set dressing and we sort of started

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getting through right but but at first I've been so

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used to doing Danny's rooms that I just sort

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of went oh no there's

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so much. And

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then we got two new locations

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I panic but in the end it's

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like it's the same like it was the same

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amount of actual stuff it was just sort of

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like listed episode slightly differently that freaked me out

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for a second because. And

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some of that was for

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for for getting past

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the Squire teddy bear into the drawbridge.

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It's pretty much open ended as

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long as you go back to the real

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world that was my like criteria if you

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go back to the real world and build

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something that you bring back in as long

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as you do that's going to work for that thing so

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I left it sort of open ended so that's a

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little bit why there's a little bit extra stuff described in

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the beginning. So people

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can get more creative. I did want to say

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Bill when I first came up with the concept

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I was like okay let me just have a

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couple things I can come up with so I know the

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players could at least think of something and I was

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like one thing they could do

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is they could have gone to the stuffed animals

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and found one that's a lion and it's the

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king of the jungle and bring it in. He's

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a classic piece of loyalty. Never did that cross

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anyone's mind in any of the playtanks. It

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was like the first thing I thought of. And

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so I was very, very happy. Good

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day. I am extremely interested,

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and I hope other people at home are

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as well. I want to

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know what the people you play-tested with came up

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with. I want to see how our ideas compare to theirs

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for all of the open bits. Yes.

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So there was a lot of paper crowns.

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That was a big one. There was

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somebody... You

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know what? I'm going to out him. Tommy

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Haunson played the game. Oh, yeah.

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And he went to the Bummy

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farmers, and through a weird bit

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of improvisation, he had it so

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that the carpet being farmed

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was like illegal drugs. And

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then that was actually not even perfect. Then

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he took so much of the carpet that

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he covered himself with it and said that

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he was Queen Meatball. Perfect.

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It was too funny to say no to. So

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I let it work, and he was like, wait, really?

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Is that working? I

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did wonder for a minute if we were going to

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have to pretend that the lollipop covered in carpet was

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going to be an animal. Yeah.

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And then one of the ones that I had thought

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about, to be clever, but no one would ever think

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of it, you take a ruler in, then they become

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a ruler, and they are a royal royal. I love

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that. That is really nice. I

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am upset that we didn't do that. We have

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to go back and edit the episode now. I

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grab a ruler. Okay.

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And what about, like, we use the

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lollipop as the key, but anything can be

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the key. Did most people use something

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like that, or do people just do whatever they want? Yes.

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Anything can be the key. I

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was a little nervous about the lollipop. The

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lollipop is there to sort of try

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to get across that, like, if

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you bring something from the real world

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into the land of whimsy, it transforms.

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That makes sense. gonna ask what the

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actual function of the lollipop was in the room. Oh yeah I

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could see that that's what it was. The

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other thing was we were sort of already

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there a little bit I

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think which is why I was going

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so hard and the sesame lane lunchbox

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find it. Yes yes

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you guys are very keyed in on that being a lunchbox

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early on. I didn't have any other play sets that actually

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keyed in on that. Also the detail the detail

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about how one kid brought a sack lunch

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and was missing a lunchbox. You guys

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keyed in on that detail and none of my other play sets did. That's

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not even escape this podcast training that's

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solve this murder training. That's just

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a person in the conversation mentioning a detail

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and be like that detail is going to

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be irrelevant for later. Why would they say

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this? How did

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everyone else get out of their cages when

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they were Queen Trax? All

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very different. There

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was blowtorch to get through

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stuff. There was a I think

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it was like a tractor to drive through

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stuff. There was I can't

11:04

quite remember actually the army men.

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There was a lot of redirecting to block it. There was

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a lot of like

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big shields to block

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the rocket and stuff and then

11:16

someone I think actually just like took

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the rocket launcher. I forget how that happened. They just like had

11:21

the rocket launcher now and they just blew over the wall. So

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that part's supposed to be very very fun no matter what you

11:27

say. It's going to be like your

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your Neo at the end of the matrix. Whatever

11:32

you want it can happen. It can be

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nice to have moments like that. I feel

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like I don't do

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that very often. But

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just very occasionally still throw something like that

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in but I don't think I would dare

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to do that long

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an improbable segment because I can't

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from for that long. That would

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terrify me so well done. But

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yeah it is nice when suddenly there's a bit of panic

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about how much freedom you have. Well,

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maybe you don't get that. I didn't. It

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was fine. I loved it. I actually enjoyed it

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so much that I added, but

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the last playtest I did, I actually added in

12:10

the Farmer Bunnies being a barricade and you being

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on wanted posters. I just added that because I

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really, really liked the improv at the end. I

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enjoy that. I like the wanted poster. Should

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we make that an image that we put on

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merchandise? Stop putting on merch. Spencer,

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how can I monetize your work?

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Hey, if I figure that

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out, I'll let you know. And

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then also, you mentioned before we started that

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there's only one puzzle puzzle in this room,

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which is the letter construction. I loved that.

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That was great fun. I had a lot

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of fun doing letter construction. That looked insane

12:48

when we saw the rules for it on

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the whiteboard. Then it was super

12:52

simple and really fun and very step by stepable.

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But yeah, even then it wasn't like when we

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saw the actual puzzle, we could just see the

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answer. We had to go through the

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process of doing it and it just formed itself. It

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must have been enjoyable for you to listen to us go

13:06

through that because I feel like we sort of did

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it exactly the way you wanted. Like going upside down.

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Oh, that's crazy. Wait a minute. Oh my God. Yes,

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this is definitely like the

13:17

cleanest playthrough of that. Everything

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you said in the order you said it

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is how I hoped it would go. They're

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like, okay, so if we put in the O and

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the D, but those had a plus and a minus,

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these don't. But I still think we assumed

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that it is. Yes, yes, yes. How

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long did it take to create this

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and find letters that worked? So

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finding letters that worked was tough. It

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was actually very fun. Once

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I set up those rules of how the

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letters will turn into new stuff, finding

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weird combinations that were

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like really complex and let the

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actual letters was very, very fun.

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And I came up with a couple of them. I've

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no idea where I put the notes for it. But

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after the first couple of play tests, it was clear that

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I was a little mad with power because they were way,

14:11

way too complicated. So that

14:13

third letter K was like the tough stuff

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of like, oh,

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you think you figured it out? How's this?

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So that wound up being like a heart I wanted

14:24

it to be for the letter K. Amazing.

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Were there any other letters that you had that we

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should try to back form and figure out how you

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would create them? Oh, geez.

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All right, let's do some dreams. It

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was so long ago and I didn't actually have

14:39

it digitally. I

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sort of scroll notes like mad

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on sticky notes, which

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for whatever reason is what I do. But then eventually I

14:49

throw them all away and you

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can only write so much on a sticky note. So I have

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like 11 of them that are all supposed to go together. Nice.

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Just for the most recent room that I was writing. So

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I'll come up with some and I'll email you. Nice.

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For the most recent room that I was writing, I ended

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up at a point where I said, cool,

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here's the puzzle that I want to be in this

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moment to do with letters. And then I paused and

15:13

I went. All right, now it's

15:15

time for me to actually create the puzzle. And I don't

15:17

know if this is physically possible and if letters work this

15:19

way and if there are any letters that would do what

15:21

I want them to do. Oh, dear. Oh,

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no. So this feels like a version of

15:26

that. I love doing that. Yeah. Most

15:30

of the puzzles that I make start

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out as puzzles that I'm solving to

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see if they even are functional or

15:36

possible. So

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what do you start with when you create a room?

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What is your order of creation? It's,

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I don't know. I

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don't know if I'm trying too hard to be like different. Like

15:49

I don't want to say the story because everyone starts

15:52

with a story. And you pretty much have to start

15:54

with a story. But

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I also like to immediately consider the

15:58

like. Form that

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it's want to take and like the

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limitations. Of. The form. My.

16:05

I usually I was hoping to make up. I

16:07

additional I wanted to write a room where the

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I didn't have to send you any images whatsoever.

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And I had a slightly more simplified

16:14

version of the exact same whiteboard puzzle

16:16

but I would you describe as. Some.

16:22

Of those cases where sometimes I create images

16:24

that really I could have just described but

16:26

ah my people probably sick of hearing me

16:29

describes the for a while ago someone elses

16:31

was suicide is another set of. Reading. Out

16:33

a letter you to say could you read out

16:35

this little yes and. It's. Fine.

16:38

It's. Still kind of. it is an audio things

16:40

just letting them read the script for that second.

16:43

Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. So. Yeah

16:45

yeah it's it's yeah is what's what's a

16:47

form. the things going to take if is

16:49

what's what's something that the format of this

16:51

whole thing can do that something else. Ah,

16:54

market cap you as well. So having the

16:56

of. The. Stephen besides me,

16:58

sound effects, Been very

17:00

words with us out of all our good cells.

17:02

One of the perfect guy I thought of of

17:05

doesn't want to do something the southwest to this

17:07

it's audio less because of the with audio. I

17:09

did feel very happy with that

17:11

one because. They're. Listening to

17:13

it on the first play, through the science,

17:16

the sound effects yeah, I was mildly paying

17:18

attention to them. And then when it said.

17:20

Like. Oh, you would be a stupid person

17:23

or whatever. he thought that you'd be wrong or

17:25

whatever and a played the Just and Noise and

17:27

I went. That's not what I would have expected

17:29

the Us. And I was I

17:31

dunno just that from that that was all you. when I

17:33

saw the she can tell. Bomb. Before

17:36

I was like this is mean with me I

17:38

would never have remembered those sounds with specific to

17:40

that. To that video so

17:42

you would have an uncle rumbling spot to get

17:44

stuck. and yeah and I would have been stuff

17:46

that's a good were some of cats and yes

17:48

you got it off of the second. listen. Which.

17:51

Was impressive is very good. I actually

17:53

put in all this extra effort to

17:55

edit the individual sound effects like to

17:58

be like now the seat and. Going

18:00

on are just going to play the

18:02

stupidest within us. But. Know any other

18:04

you all our. Well. Done

18:06

know that your Ss

18:08

businesses. A In all of our

18:11

years of doing these I have never put that

18:13

much as answer. A fascinating already I

18:15

puzzles said good job they were. Preceded.

18:19

It was great fun! I did. I did. I

18:22

really like the idea on I felt good. Well,

18:25

what else to feel good about said those two

18:28

puzzles that they're good about? That did we

18:30

ever look in their backpacks or anything interesting? Oh,

18:33

that's as good as you did attempt

18:35

it. Either way, it's I sort of

18:37

described it unenthusiastically. Got

18:40

assisted it was very important.

18:42

Was. It any reason for those to be in the room. Now

18:45

just if you had his idea of

18:48

something to do to get past the

18:50

slightly there that would have also I'm

18:52

about to more options aren't lovely? Young.

18:55

See. What the think if is comical

18:57

water based on visited earth. Ah

19:00

on here the was just a lot of stuff

19:02

that was like when you're like if we wanted

19:04

something they will be ability As far as you

19:06

get a look opportunistic and I'm semi the window

19:08

he gets to stay because windows a necessary for

19:10

classrooms. Yes! and initially was

19:12

supposed to be out in the real version

19:15

of the room. There's gonna be a simulated

19:17

window and I was gonna be your timer

19:19

for the game is. Gone

19:22

into the assembly. All went over like a

19:24

third of the way they're. All

19:26

his I'm a to ask you about that

19:28

so you There were a couple moments that

19:30

we triggered only years it seems the bell

19:33

ring with those with those treated based on

19:35

particular places that we searched, we waiting for

19:37

particular action to trigger those. The last two

19:39

are. So I'm so that the

19:41

first one fritters once you've done most

19:43

of the exploration. I'll get because

19:45

it takes is a bullet a plan. On.

19:48

And then the second one triggers

19:50

right after you've finished watching the

19:52

video. The.

19:54

reason for that is you at that point you

19:57

have which need to be able to solve the

19:59

childlike wonder box to get the message of

20:01

anything can be the key. But

20:04

I don't want you going down that

20:06

trail until meatball has hidden in there.

20:09

I need you to scare meatball first. So

20:11

that's why I forced that interaction of, oh,

20:13

the kids come in. Oh,

20:15

it's chaos. We got to do something and we get an orange. Let's

20:17

do something with the sword. Ah,

20:19

that is a good redirect. Yeah, it's great.

20:22

So, so that's, I did have a playtest

20:24

where they got the orange, but they were

20:26

just like, I'm not going to do the

20:28

thing because I think I've solved the sound

20:30

effect thing and I left the play all

20:32

the way through it and they went to the land

20:35

of make believe that, uh, meatball wasn't there and all

20:37

of the bunny farmers talked about how the, the castle

20:39

has been left dormant for years. Uh,

20:41

so then they had to go back out and scare meatball.

20:44

That's great. Uh, and

20:46

then the last ring is right at the end. You've won

20:48

it. Uh, yeah,

20:51

I don't play the third bell until you've won. You've got the

20:53

pumpkin seeds. Yes. Uh,

20:55

well, wonderful. Yeah, that works out. That's that's that

20:57

makes sense. Um, it was interesting because you

20:59

were trying to redirect us from something that we hadn't even

21:01

noticed we had already, which was

21:04

the note, which

21:06

we just didn't see, so

21:08

we didn't need to be spaced out a little

21:11

bit realistically, like enough time has passed that maybe

21:13

that could have been the full lunch break. Well,

21:15

the, the, the first couple of bells when

21:17

they happened, I looked at our clock and

21:19

I went, but we

21:22

have been going for just the right amount of

21:24

time that that could have been organized. Like

21:26

it wouldn't have been like a full hour

21:29

or anything, but that could have been at

21:31

a time that Spencer has come up with

21:33

beforehand rather than an event. I assumed it

21:36

was event based, but there was a bit

21:38

of doubt. I did have one thing in the

21:40

back of my head being like, okay,

21:42

well, I don't think these are actual time limits

21:45

because if they are, and he times us out of the room, I

21:47

will have to just say, what are you talking about? Would

21:50

you cut time? We're

21:52

going to solve it. Why did you let me talk about? Yeah.

21:54

Do I have to have a conversation about the format of the show?

21:59

No, no, I'm I don't think that's the case, but I'm

22:01

just in the back of my head. Alright,

22:05

and now, I feel like there

22:07

must be some discussion on the

22:09

concept of childlike whimsy. Okay,

22:11

sure. A serious

22:13

discussion, because

22:15

I don't have any and I don't think I ever did. Do

22:23

you want to discuss that childlike whimsy?

22:25

Yeah, because you have a thing with

22:27

this, and I agree. People

22:30

are always like, oh, you know, for the creative

22:32

mind of a child, they're so creative and they're

22:34

not hampered by being disillusioned. And it's

22:36

like, no, no, kids can't imagine anything. You just tell them a thing.

22:38

You're like, yeah, I guess so. Children follow

22:40

rules. Isn't that the whole

22:42

point of Alice in Wonderland? She goes to

22:44

the world of nonsense and spends the entire

22:47

time going, well, you can't do that. That

22:49

doesn't make sense. What is this nonsense? And

22:51

then she breaks out of it in the

22:53

end. She has to become an

22:55

adult and have whimsy. If

22:58

this is how you need to cope with

23:00

not having an imagination when you were a

23:02

kid, who am I to say otherwise?

23:07

How many escape routes do you design as a child, Danny? None.

23:09

But as an adult, so much imagination. Yeah,

23:13

exactly. That's right. I

23:17

want to talk about something way more pragmatic, which

23:20

was we did the classic thing. And

23:22

this is early on in this room that

23:25

we pulled out the top door to get to the bottom. Oh, yeah.

23:28

Which is one of those ones, which is either

23:30

a classic fix of the end.

23:32

That's how you meant to solve the puzzle or

23:35

the game master goes, oh, I didn't think

23:37

about that. It's always one or the other. No, I

23:39

don't think you should be able to do that. Trust

23:42

is when it's one or the other in a physical

23:44

escape room. Yeah, I know whether you've broken

23:46

it. I hope I'm right out of order. So

23:49

it was interesting to start the room that way. Did

23:51

everybody get that pretty much or did some people they

23:53

need prodding and prompting? Oh, my play tested right away.

23:55

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I

23:58

thought I would drop a little hint in the note. I

24:00

don't know if that's that. People usually find later

24:02

on if they hadn't found it up to that

24:04

point. But almost immediately, that was everyone's first try.

24:06

It was like, let's just try it. Take out

24:08

the top drawer. Did

24:10

Dylan ever get his Tamagotchi back? Or

24:13

her, I don't know if Dylan's gender is

24:15

better. Anyway, did Dylan get the Tamagotchi back?

24:18

Yeah, yeah, yeah. During the end credits when it was

24:20

like just music playing and there's no audio and

24:23

there's little title down below,

24:25

it said Dylan got his Tamagotchi back. That

24:28

was mystified why it was set in all

24:30

the physical stuff. Did you have any part

24:32

of you think, I won't make it a

24:34

Tamagotchi, I'll make it a little Digimon. I'll

24:37

make it a little

24:39

Digimon. Not even for a second. What?

24:42

Not even for a second. Were they not a

24:44

big fear? Uh,

24:48

no. Digimon has always been a back

24:52

burner to, well, Pokemon really.

24:54

I've never, I didn't know there was a Digimon.

24:57

They had their Tamagotchi. Oh yeah, they're

24:59

a Digimon Tamagotchi. If you connect them to each

25:01

other and they can fight. Yeah, if you

25:03

stick one little Tamagotchi thing to the other one,

25:05

they will have a little fight. It's great. Are

25:08

mine still on a shelf? I'm

25:10

sure that we've got a Digimon sitting somewhere. We might,

25:12

but we don't need to get it now. I'm

25:14

a little upset about how cool that sounds, and

25:16

I didn't have it. I

25:19

loved Digimon so much.

25:21

They were a big deal. Of course, our

25:23

primary school banned them. They banned everything. That's

25:25

what primary school is for. But before that

25:28

happened, my Digimon story, one,

25:30

I discovered that if you kept them at

25:32

their minimum weight, they lost every fight. They

25:35

could not win a fight if they were at minimum weight. Well,

25:37

they're on the weight. Yeah, I know. You had

25:39

to keep them a little bit chunky. That was an

25:41

interesting discovery for a child. The

25:44

other thing was, there was just one

25:47

day, very sadly, I dropped one

25:49

of my Digimon. I had to, I dropped one of them. And

25:52

the entire top half of the screen blanked out.

25:55

And it was just, I could still see its legs

25:57

walking around the screen. The

26:00

top with blink. And

26:02

that made. Grieve for hims half full kind

26:04

of gal. That made me the most

26:06

popular it's Isles in the World of

26:08

did you Mon At my school I

26:11

had to have a maintenance to hostage

26:13

him on. At. Ever on wanted

26:15

to battle make a success. So

26:19

they always one because you are the was. President

26:23

of the real reason I wanted about. Ah

26:27

does this It as a that's a

26:29

little imagination. Kids have something like a

26:31

scarf screen wife and trances them. Or

26:36

will those eyes So much fun playing. Through the

26:39

room. Thank you so much for coming on and

26:41

running it for us is one of your the

26:43

a very happy experience. It.

26:45

Was an honor. It was great. So

26:48

for people to you you've mentioned in the first

26:50

episode that you've made and another game. Or

26:52

digits people to find that in a nose makes

26:55

a little details and facts about we they find.

26:57

Us. Sir. Are the game is

26:59

called Lost in the Shuffle. A. Double

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dealing hard day or was afraid

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of it. A double dip your

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You said? That. You would

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edit out all of my mother

27:13

was balanced. I did. Oh yes,

27:15

so did my house. Nine point

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27:32

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27:36

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Kittens Seven Point one. Is

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27:48

When. You first player, it's like the first time

27:50

you've experienced. A. Guy like

27:52

a real game to rot and then.

27:56

You deserve the hard stuff that you realize

27:58

I gotta tell our advantage. Like

28:00

get or a more recent one wingspan. Eight

28:03

Point one out a thin who I pull. I'm

28:05

still feeling lost in the south of the episodes.

28:07

Doing pretty good. Will Jamie said

28:10

Marvel at one day be a

28:12

successful game designer. Matilda. Is

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a slow. As. The fascinated

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me and I ran the a

28:20

it's a wolf thank you so

28:22

much for coming on think it

28:24

was it was awful and anything

28:26

playing together. Thank god I. Think

28:28

it works. Ah, I sold

28:30

some puzzles and you. Believed

28:33

and stuff. I believe

28:35

Inspired. I. Thank you everybody has

28:38

the listening. I do enjoy the episode

28:40

was it was good to have you

28:42

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28:44

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you followed this plan, but I do. You have

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any friends? That. You name the

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end pcs in this room after. Do you know a

29:31

meatball? Do you know A Spencer? Yes

29:34

I do well. I'm Meatball is

29:36

named after our the late gesture

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little have sort of people. Ah,

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Yeah. Name well says it. says.

29:46

Lovely There There was a different

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And then the principal's name is Mishlowski,

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30:25

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30:27

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It was so much fun. Thank you both. Bye, everybody.