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Ambiguous. This is Sharene Hi,

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this is Anna. We're

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So listen up. Do

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support Islamophobia. And

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free Palestine, so stay tuned.

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Who are we? Where

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do these come from? Who do we

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become? What is it

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to be? What to be?

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Is it? Where are we? Who

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are my parents? Where

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are my parents? Why

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were we born? We

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are ethnically

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ambiguous? Hi,

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Hi, It's the end of times?

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Yep? Oh? Should I keep

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singing? Oh? No? Okay?

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Uh? This is like

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the most consistent, not consistent,

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but like because because of the world

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is ending. I feel like we've been very on top of

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talking about topical stuff. This

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tip toss topical stuff, akay,

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anything else. Free Palestine,

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That's how I feel at all times. I feel

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like free Palestine. Yes,

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stop the genocide.

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Look, we had some genocide deniers in our comments

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this past week. It's almost

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it's comical to even like acknowledge

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them to be like, oh, that's cute,

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but also like how are they following us? Still?

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No, I'm like, hey, how about take a hike.

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This isn't for you, because guess what I've

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already I have succumbed to the

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fact that you can't change the minds

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of these people who are clearly

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so deeply ingrained

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in mainstream media and Israel's

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propaganda campaigns that you just simply

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can't. They're in such denial

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that it's like, look, this isn't

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for you at this point, like I

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can't help you, and I don't have the energy

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to try and explain to you how like mass

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murder of a group of you

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know, innocent civilians as a genocide.

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And then like one person commented that I actually

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deleted this comics. I was like, I don't even want to give

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you the acknowledgment of the stupidity of

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this comment. But they said, like, how is it

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a genocide when like Israel could

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have already killed all the Palestinians and they

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haven't, And it's like, ohms

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her, are they not genociding fast enough

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for you to consider it a genocide? Are

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you guys out of your minds. That

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is the dumbest argument ever, Like, oh,

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it's not a genocide, you're killed. I

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don't know if this could be a genocide. It's going

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pretty slow, but like people

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that are committing genocide are not in the processing.

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We are committing genocide, you know what I mean? Like genocide

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happens without the

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people that are committing it saying we are committing

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genocide, it happens. I mean, actually

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no, it's Reel saying that in so many different ways,

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like we need to commit genocide, and the US governments

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they're saying, like we have to kill, like fly

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it into a parking lot. You have. Israeli's like posting

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on TikTok saying like we can't wait

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for this to be a like a theme park

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and all this stuff. It's just like really shameful stuff.

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Is you see our good friend I'm not

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going to say her name, she's been on this show,

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but she's a Palestinian woman and I don't want to blow

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up her spot, but she

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posted a message from

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the man hold on, let

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me just pull it up and I will name drive. And the producer

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from La La Land, Gary Gilbert, who produced

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La La Land in a bunch of other stupid movies

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like the Kids Are all Right Garden State. If

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anything happens, so I love you. He sent

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a message to a Palestinian saying,

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we will be armed and ready for you cowardly

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punks this Wednesday. We're armed

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and ready for you punks. We don't have an ounce of

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fear. Please add this to your story. I

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would be honored. This is someone who

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works in Hollywood and made that trash ass movie

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uh La Land Gary Gilbert. He's

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father, husband, part Calves owner,

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producer of Gilbert Films. You're

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unwell who sends messages

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like that people that are one

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percent not afraid of getting any

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consequences. He's not gonna get reprimanded the same

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way Amy Schumer is still not gonna

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get her career affected at all.

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You know, these people say the most outlandish

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things because they can get away with it, and

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they just keep going what he's referring to.

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By the way, we were recording this on Wednesday,

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so it's supposed to happen later tonight. But they

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are screening this like film,

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which is apparently the footage of the

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Hamas massacre at the Museum

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of Tolerance today and people are saying

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that it's like a Zionist trap. They want people

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to show up and having

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like they want to show people being in their minds

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quote unquote anti Semitic. And

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so people are being encouraged to unless

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they are Jewish, uh, to not go

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to this protest if they are going to protest, because

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it's just like, you know, they don't want people of

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color going because they're like, they're just trying to

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use your like footage and faces

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to prove anti Semitism. And it's

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like also, it's like if you have this video

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or whatever that proves everything, why are you being

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weird about it? Like it's just the most like obvious

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game of propaganda

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and manipulation. And what

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I was gonna say earlier is how

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can you look at people dying the thousands,

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like thousands, like over ten thousand people have

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died now almost five thousand children.

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How can you look at that? And your first response is

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but actually, like but actually

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it's not this, and like that

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you need help if that's you, if you know people

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like that, examine that. I

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cannot comprehend how that would be your first

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thoughts to be like but actually a

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massacre? No, yeah,

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no, it doesn't work, and

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it also is it

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really shows your character as a person I

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believe to

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like not acknowledge

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what's happening and not acknowledge

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that it's a genocide. Like it makes me think

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that maybe you were like not raised

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right. I don't know hard to say, yeah,

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it's liker mean's never

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like hey, man, stand

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up for like people who like need it

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or something, or people I don't don't understand. I don't

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think we're raised because my parents are always

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like, you have to stand up for the people that

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need help. And I'm

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getting the feeling that maybe my parents.

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You know, I've been so critical of my parents, but I

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think in the long run, they

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raised me right. My

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parents raised me right, and so did

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your parents. Your parents raised you right, And

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I think everyone who's pro Palestine, I think their

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parents raised them right because like there's

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I mean, hey, unless

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you're an excionist, yes, unless you like on brainwash

7:32

yourselves. But even that, it's like they raised

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you right enough to know that you were like this is bullshit

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and I need to get away from this. That's true.

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That is true. So they did

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something right. They alienated you. So

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I don't know, like I just am like shocked,

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like I've never been told anything but

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stand up for people who need it. But

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I think I think

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there's a really I'm paraphrasing

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this, this like sentiment that's been going

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around about how people think it's like good

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or like they truly think they're protecting

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themselves by only worrying about themselves,

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like it's they're protecting their their

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boundary or whatever it is, but

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really they are being delusional

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and not living in the real world.

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When you're purposely like avoiding

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and not paying attention to people suffering outside

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of you. It's like if you live in a luxury building

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and it's in the middle of like skid row, like

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you're purposely like deluding

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yourself into like still having your great

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luxury life even though you're surrounded

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by by misery. So

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it's like it's not self care

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to be like I'd rather just go

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on my day and post about my fucking food

8:47

and like whatever it is. It's like, no, you're

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not more like

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at peace with yourself. You're not like further along

8:55

in your self care journey. If you can like shut

8:57

yourself off to humanity that is about

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works.

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Yeah, And like just so many things

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have been making me so mad. Recently, I

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write on Twitter today I saw that twelve

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people have died from starvation

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and dehydration in Palestine, and that's like the

9:14

second phase of genocide, when the

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it's not just from the enemy

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bombs that are killing them now, it's also

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like a side effect of getting

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starved. And that's just it.

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It's I can't mean, I can't and I

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can't believe that it's gone on this long. It really bewilders

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me. And we're still trying and

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we still have to go through day to day like it's all normal.

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I don't know how. I just I don't know. I

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have a lot of time with reality at the moment. I'm sure you

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do too. Uh

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yeah. I almost feel like I don't live in

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reality anymore, because it's

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like, why are we at the stage that children are

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holding press conferences begging to not

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die? But the first comments

9:55

are usually like it's hamasa all

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these children to be me, Like, are

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you guys out of your minds? They're

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trying, they can parents

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hold up their dead children. I

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see them as human, Like,

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like, why are we looking at the corpses of babies

10:13

to prove that the corpses of babies exist.

10:16

That's just shameful. And then you have the Washington

10:18

Post putting out some of the most horrifyingly

10:21

anti Palestinian, Islamophobic

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racist cartoons I've ever seen. Yeah,

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it's genuinely shocking what's happening around

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us at all times. And you know, I'm

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sure you guys have potentially if you're as online

10:34

as we are seeing this. The video of

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the nurse who was interviewed

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by Anderson Cooper was she and yeah,

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she was a nurse for Doctors Without Borders and

10:44

she I really have to commend

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her because they refuse to say the word Israel in this

10:48

interview, and Anderson Cooper is trying

10:50

to frame every question like she was in

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danger in Gaza, and she is

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the whole time holding her own and

10:57

being like, know, the

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people of Gaza protected me. Yes,

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things would get heated, but they were getting heated

11:04

because there was nothing that they could

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do and they were starting to lose their minds because they

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didn't have food, Their children were being murdered. They couldn't

11:10

figure it out. That's the only reason they were getting heated.

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They were getting upset, but they

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protected me. They got me out of there. Those

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people are the strongest, most, you know,

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like honorable people on earth. And

11:21

when he was like really trying to push this

11:23

narrative of like Palestinians being

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dangerous and like would

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she ever go back? And she said, yeah, I'll go back

11:30

in an instance, like I will go back to Gaza.

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And I think like they really tried

11:35

her, and I commend her. Of course it's a

11:37

white woman, because that's that's the only person I'll speak

11:39

on this exactly. And I

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think she did a great job of navigating

11:44

that interview in a way that didn't get

11:46

them to shut it down for her being like

11:48

too pro Palestine, which she clearly

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is as they aired it, I am too because

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they like you could tell they were trying

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to push her to be like these fucking Gazans

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like, and she wouldn't. It

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was like you were were you ever afraid that they would

12:02

hurt you? Like it's just like, why is that, like

12:04

Andrewson, He's such a fucking snake? Uh?

12:07

I just but

12:09

no, it is kind of telling that

12:11

the only people that they will let speak on this

12:14

are white women or just white people in

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general. But have

12:18

you seen this clip? It's going around. I don't know what news

12:20

program it's on, but

12:24

like speaking of them not letting any

12:27

brown person talk about this in a respectful

12:29

way. Not

12:32

only do people just like interrupt people

12:34

of color when they're talking. But there's just one clip

12:38

from this like British show where

12:41

this blonde lady just keeps asking

12:43

this Palestinian guy to like condemned Hamas,

12:45

like do you condemn Hammas? And he repeats over

12:47

and over again, like it's like it's like a parody.

12:49

I've just sent this to you, but I

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don't I don't know how these reporters are

12:57

even reporters. I don't know how these like clowns

12:59

can live with them so like do they just have a

13:01

script that they like embedded in their head and

13:03

like repeat, like do they not have any kind

13:06

of humanity? Because they're on TV now, I don't understand

13:08

that they're following that the playbook

13:10

that, like I've seen it posted

13:12

many times. Who posted the idea? I

13:14

forget who posted this playbook of like

13:17

do not do not acknowledge

13:20

any of this. Basically that's

13:22

the I sent you in the chat. The clip I'm referring

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to, if you've seen it, just

13:26

to see I'm sure I have seen this

13:28

I've seen so much. This one got

13:30

me really heated because this guy

13:33

gets mad understandably and all the and

13:35

like they purposely make us furious

13:38

so we can be so they can be the calm and collected

13:40

ones, you know what I mean, that's what that's

13:43

it like proves their point in their head to be like,

13:45

wow, they're being really aggressive and we're

13:47

calm and collected because they weren't going to answer my question,

13:50

like, actually, your questions are racist,

13:52

so shut up. Everything

13:55

makes me so mad. Everything makes me

13:57

so mad. Yeah.

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Yeah, And you know what, the most look

14:03

it's as if it's

14:05

as if they don't want us to vote anymore

14:09

because the House voted

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to censor censor.

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I can never say that word sensor anyway.

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Censor uh. Rep Rashida

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Tlibe over her comments on

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Israel Hamas because she

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had the nerve to say from the River

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to the Sea in a two

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thirty four to like

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after enough Democrats joined with Republicans,

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the censor Tlibe is like,

14:37

it's it's a punishment one step below

14:39

expulsion from the House. So they're

14:42

literally like she's

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the only Palestinian, the only one,

14:50

the only one. Yeah,

14:52

and terrors should be the voice

14:54

that everyone's listening to, and instead they are silencing

14:56

like a Muslim Palestinian politician.

15:00

It was directly the like knowledgeable

15:02

about this and affected by this. It's just it's

15:05

disgusting and there's something

15:07

we can do about it because these other people in power like

15:09

what Yeah, And she said,

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I will not be silenced and I will not let you

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distort my words. And she said that her criticism

15:15

Israel has always been directed towards its government and

15:17

its leadership under you know, Netanyahu.

15:20

And she said it is important to separate people in government.

15:22

The idea that criticizing the government of Israel's anti

15:24

Semitic set's a very dangerous president and it's

15:26

been used to silence diverse voices speaking

15:28

up for human rights across the nation. And

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she has family in the West Bank. Mm

15:33

hmm. She's like one of the only politicians

15:35

that deserve respect at the moment, like

15:38

a handful of them. But it's

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right. I really really commend her bravery.

15:44

Yeah, I don't know. And then the

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Democrats because are you guys out

15:48

of your minds? Do you want to continue

15:50

alienating every Arab, every Muslim,

15:53

every Palestinian, every brown person in this

15:55

country, which your nonsense. It's

15:59

called free you a dumb fox.

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And it's also called the jetocide. That

16:05

doesn't apply to us, Nana doesn't

16:07

apply to us. It applies to white people that are like obsessed

16:10

with the South. I

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saw this tweet that I've been thinking about for a while.

16:16

I'm gonna pull it up. Hold on, Okay,

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this tweet says not to be too quote

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grew up under George W. Bush, But using

16:25

the term terrorism politically as a

16:27

rhetorical tool to differentiate between

16:29

acceptable unacceptable forms of organized

16:31

violence marks someone as un serious

16:34

and generally beneath consideration.

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I fucking agree because

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I've been saying, I mean, we've all been saying, like

16:41

who defines what terrorism is? Why

16:43

is what we do good? When the

16:46

United States we beat? Like, I don't you

16:48

know what I mean? Why is the United States or like

16:50

the West considered the good guys? If they've

16:52

terrorized the world more than anybody, anybody

16:55

like they've they define what terrorism

16:58

is the

17:00

same way like the victor writes the history book

17:02

kind of thing, you know what I mean? And it's just

17:05

why are people comfortable calling what Hamastad

17:08

terrorism and not what Israel is doing? Terrorism,

17:10

Like, why is that? Yeah,

17:15

I don't know, I don't know. I'm

17:18

out a brush from take a break. Uh

17:20

uh okay, yeah,

17:23

yeah, let's do it. We'll be right

17:25

back and

17:35

we're back. Yeah

17:38

uh I am.

17:40

I continue to stay shocked

17:45

by the behavior of people in

17:47

this country, by

17:50

this industry, by

17:53

like, you know, we have multiple friends whose

17:56

agents are harassing them

17:58

over them speaking out of Palestine,

18:00

Like how is that? Okay? It's

18:03

just like this industry is like a really

18:05

really it's during

18:08

place. It's

18:10

it's rotten and gross and it's

18:13

not even it really shows you just like how

18:16

at the very end of the day, people

18:18

in power will usually

18:21

be corrupt and they will be they'll

18:23

only want their narrative,

18:26

and any challenge to that is it's

18:29

not okay with them. There's a picture I mean, I'm sure you've seen

18:31

this picture that's like really frustrating

18:35

and infuriating and sad. But they have a picture of

18:37

the of the Nekaba in

18:39

forty eight and then what's happening right

18:41

now, and it's just like the sea of people

18:43

that are leaving and or not

18:45

even leaving there they bring forced to leave

18:48

and it's just like one, yeah, that the Neckbube

18:50

never finished. Sure, but this

18:52

is it's like, how

18:55

could people not see what's happening as

18:58

also wait wait year, sorry, I'm like dumping around because

19:00

I'm just like a Greek. But the New York Times do you see that I called

19:02

it a migration? Yeah, they called it a migration.

19:05

What are you saying? Ethnic

19:07

cleansing? And like a fourth displacement is migration?

19:10

Now? Like shut up? No one wanted

19:12

to leave my god, it makes

19:14

me so upset. Yeah,

19:20

I don't. It's a it's

19:22

a systematic ethnic

19:25

cleansing that the world

19:27

refuses to acknowledge. I

19:29

will say a lot of countries in South

19:32

and Central America have cut ties with Israel,

19:34

which is commendable. Yeah,

19:38

you know, I

19:41

the

19:44

the choice to ignore

19:46

what's happening is

19:50

once again really

19:53

horrendous. I mean, like, the

19:56

Palestinians are the

19:58

strongest people in the world world because

20:01

what we as a world

20:03

have put them through. First

20:06

of all, America would not survive this. Hey, America

20:08

tells you one thing. We're all like and

20:15

now imagine like everything is ripped away

20:17

from you and like everyone

20:20

in the world goes like you don't deserve

20:22

to live. Yeah,

20:25

how tell an American. They don't

20:27

deserve to live and

20:30

see what fucking happens.

20:33

We have no ability to

20:36

like, we have no strength

20:38

in this country because like you're

20:41

seeing like a kmarket

20:43

in trouble because they have a hambag and people

20:45

are freaked out because it looks like too much like the word

20:47

hamas like it's for ham.

20:50

It's ham, you

20:52

guys is ham muscles

20:55

have more reason to be offended by ham

20:57

than white people do. Like

21:00

what is happening? Hey,

21:02

guess what being offended by ham? That's our

21:04

thing? How dare you exactly? You're

21:07

appropriating us again. You have

21:09

to go. I want to get occupied Ham.

21:14

That was so pathetic. It's pathetic.

21:16

No, but I think Anthony BOURDAINI said something about

21:18

how courage was created a Palestine

21:21

or like I'm paraphrasing his quote, but it's

21:24

true, like the Palestinian people because

21:27

they're plight and

21:29

their struggle is just. That is why

21:32

it's been able to withstand all of this.

21:34

They know what they're doing is

21:37

just, and they're defending themselves and then their land.

21:39

They're not hurting their land. They want to go back

21:41

to it and be there. And the

21:43

majority of Palestinians when you compare

21:46

them to an Israeli settler. The

21:48

Israeli settler has a lot of hate in their

21:50

heart because they are convinced

21:54

that everyone's against them. The Palestinian person,

21:56

while there may be obviously some hate

21:58

toward their oppressor, there's also this deep

22:00

love for the land. But I don't think a

22:02

typical is really settler has I'm sorry,

22:05

there's like something emotionally different between

22:07

that. Is that a hot

22:09

take? I don't care well. I mean

22:12

it's an interesting take because you know, you were watching

22:14

them burn the olive trees. We're

22:17

watching them actually disrespect the land

22:19

on many occasions, and

22:21

they're blowing up these like these here

22:24

historic churches and buildings, like a universities,

22:28

like there's no universities

22:30

left in Gaza. They blew them all up. An

22:34

explosion from where was a classic.

22:37

The all the trolling of Elizabeth Warren

22:39

refusing to say She's like a blast

22:41

occurred, and it's like she's like, fuck,

22:44

what off? A

22:46

blast occurred. I mean, I've

22:48

said this before, but I just think there

22:51

is no Zionist defense against

22:53

blowing up Palestinian

22:56

land. I want to read these quotes

22:59

from people that are people are somehow

23:02

defending like early Zionism, saying it's

23:04

like peaceful and it's

23:07

it's not like a violent movement

23:09

rather than like something for self determination. I want

23:11

to read you some quotes from some Israeli

23:15

leaders. David Bengurion was

23:17

the Israeli Prime minister from nineteen fourty nine

23:19

to nineteen sixty three. And this wasn't a speech

23:21

that he gave to Israeli officers. He said, we

23:24

must use terror, assassination and

23:26

intimidation. We must steal

23:28

their land and eliminate every social

23:30

service to free Israel from its Arab

23:32

population. Okay, yeah,

23:36

and then let's go to ok go ahead,

23:38

no, I was saying yeah. And

23:40

then Goldemeyer, the Israeli Prime minister

23:42

from sixty nine to seventy four, she said,

23:45

and this is a statement to the Sunday Times

23:47

in nineteen sixty nine, there is no

23:49

such thing as the Palestinian people.

23:52

We didn't come here and stole their land.

23:54

We didn't take their country, we didn't chase them

23:56

away. They simply don't exist.

24:00

Ill sure is

24:04

really a prime minister began

24:08

b I G I N sorry, Actually

24:11

no, I'm not sorry. Seventy seven to eighty three

24:14

he said. This is a statement that was released

24:16

the day after the UN vote on the division of

24:18

Palestine. The division of

24:20

Palestine is illegal. It will never be recognized.

24:23

Jerusalem is and will always be our

24:25

capital. Israel will be recognized

24:27

for the people of Israel, all of it and foreveris

24:30

Zionist bullshit. This

24:33

is israelly. Prime Minister Yitzak

24:35

Shamid, who at the time was giving this

24:39

or this speech was also given to Israeli settlers

24:41

in eighty eight. The Palestinians

24:43

will be crushed like locusts and their

24:45

heads smashed against the boulders and

24:48

walls. I

24:51

don't know, that's just like a like a little taste.

24:53

This isn't and these aren't. I think what

24:56

angers me is that when you show someone being genocidal

24:59

and racist and dienophobic and hateful

25:01

or saying death to Arabs, a lot of defenders

25:03

of Israel will say, well, you're selecting an extremist

25:06

person you can't like, like,

25:08

that's not all of us. Well, you have your leaders

25:11

of Israel saying these genocidal,

25:13

hateful things,

25:15

and that is

25:17

why standing with Israel

25:20

is supporting all that stuff.

25:23

If you don't support genocide, don't stand with Israel.

25:25

It's like that simple. Well, it's like, why are extremists

25:27

even allowed on that level to say stuff

25:30

like that? And people

25:32

are like, oh, now the government of Israel is

25:34

extreme. They've always been hateful

25:36

and Zionist and extreme, like those quotes

25:39

were from the past century.

25:41

It blows my mind that that

25:46

people just haven't seen that for so long. And I mean,

25:48

like, finally

25:50

people are like waking up to what's

25:52

happening in Palestine. And I can only

25:54

imagine what it feels like to be Palestinian and

25:56

like be shouting into the void for like hundreds

25:58

of years or eight hundred year and

26:02

I don't know. And still when you come around

26:04

to their cause, they're not like, wow, finally

26:07

they're They're grateful, they need help,

26:09

They're not hateful in their heart. Sorry,

26:12

I'm gay. I'm going on a tangent, but I want to read.

26:16

Uh. I don't know if we mentioned this last

26:18

week or if it happened before I recorded, but ahead to

26:20

Mimi was captured.

26:23

She was kidnapped from her home. She is and

26:25

her father and her father I did not

26:27

know that, but just

26:30

a little bit of background ahead to Mimi. In December

26:32

twenty seventeen, was detained by Israeli

26:34

authorities as a teenager for slapping

26:36

a IDF soldier and

26:38

this was filmed and it went viral,

26:41

and that's how she kind of rose to become

26:43

an icon for the resistance. And

26:45

actually last year, in February of twenty

26:47

twenty two, when Ukraine was

26:50

getting a lot of public support from Western

26:52

media when they were fighting Russia, there

26:54

was a photo of its altercation when she was a teenager

26:56

with the caption that said Ukrainian

26:58

girl confronts Russian soldier. And

27:01

this photo went viral and it was going around and

27:04

everyone was like, wow, look at the power of this Ukrainian

27:06

girl, and people quickly

27:08

corrected them to say it was ahead to Mimi.

27:11

And the popularity of that photo, you guessed

27:13

it kind of teetered off after that. So

27:15

there's some fun history for you. But apparently she's

27:18

being held at the Daman or

27:20

Demand prison in Israel, and

27:22

according to her mother, she was beaten. Her

27:24

mom received a call from a lawyer who was visiting

27:27

another female Palestinian prisoner, and

27:29

that prisoner informed a

27:31

head's lawyer of her status and to notify

27:34

her family. Her family has

27:36

no way to contact her and is largely in the

27:38

dark about her status. International

27:40

law prohibits an occupying power

27:42

from transferring prisoners outside territory.

27:48

Outside occupied territories prohibits them from

27:50

transferring a prisoner outside occupied territory, but

27:52

Israel routinely imprisons Palestinians like

27:55

a head in Israel, and

27:58

Palestinian female prisoners are subject

28:00

to cruel and inhumane and brutal

28:03

treatment. I

28:05

mean, all Palatines are subjected to that, but

28:08

there's been documented evidence of female prisoners

28:10

getting assaulted and violated.

28:16

Most recently, on the fourth and fifteenth of

28:18

December twenty twenty one, Israeli prison

28:20

services launched an assault on female

28:22

prisoners in demand prison where ahead

28:25

is with Israeli special forces rating

28:27

cells, physically assaulting, beating, and

28:29

dragging female Palestine and female prisoners

28:32

to other cells. In addition, as

28:34

an arbitrary and punitive measure, they

28:36

instituted a series of collective penalties

28:39

against the entire population of female

28:41

prisoners, including solitary

28:43

confinement, bands, on family

28:45

visits, and access to the prison

28:47

canteen, et cetera, et cetera. So

28:53

jeez. Also, she's only twenty two if

28:56

that matters. Yeah,

29:00

I mean a twenty two year old. Like you guys are so

29:02

scared of a twenty two year old.

29:06

Everyone is out of their minds. They're

29:08

scared because she's a symbol, right, like

29:10

the same way they like come tell pro

29:13

or whatever, like they murdered all these symbols

29:15

because they're afraid of people having

29:18

hope. That's what it comes down to. They're they're

29:20

terrified of hope, and that's

29:22

why policy is said that they're scared of

29:24

how she is so much stronger and more important

29:27

than they are and a better person

29:29

morally on every level. It

29:32

is, Uh, we live in very dark times. I

29:34

don't know what's gonna happen. I feel like we're just

29:36

gonna allow Israel to kill

29:39

every single last Palestinian at this

29:41

point, because what's next

29:43

after they're finished bombing Gaza, what's

29:45

next? They're gonna move to the West

29:47

Bank and create and say Hamas has

29:49

secretly snuck into the West Bank. Yep,

29:53

they're gonna say that. There are a hundred percent gonna say

29:55

that, and then turns

29:57

out West Bank has actually been Hamas this whole time,

30:00

whole time, And

30:03

then turns out Hamas says now they're

30:07

now embedded within anti Zionist Jewish

30:09

communities, Like, what's next.

30:11

They're just gonna say whatever they want to continue

30:14

to silence anyone who speaks

30:17

out against them. I mean, they're already

30:19

calling pro Palestinian protests pro

30:21

Hamas protests, so they're already building

30:24

the foundation to make everyone that is pro Palestine

30:26

or supporting Palestine liberation. They're already

30:29

making them into terrorists. So it's like, and

30:31

then you have fucking was it Trump

30:33

that said he's going to ban all Palestinians

30:36

from entering the country or whatever

30:38

it was. It's it's already

30:40

in the process. And it's because of

30:43

the humanization of Middle Eastern and

30:45

Arab people and Palestinians. People

30:47

don't blink twice when this happens

30:50

because it's been happening for so long. It's like, privileged

30:53

white people assume

30:55

this is just what happens to us, and

30:57

that's why they're shocked when it happens to a white person,

30:59

because that doesn't happen to them. That's

31:01

why when Ukraine was going through the

31:04

invasion from Russia, you would have

31:06

people say something like these are these

31:09

are Ukrainians. They're blonde

31:11

and blue wide it just doesn't happen.

31:14

First of all, that's actually what was being said, but

31:16

second of all, like that's a crazy

31:18

thing to think and stay out loud

31:20

on television. You're saying that the only reason you're

31:23

affected is because this person

31:25

is is white, and

31:28

then no one really bats an eye. It's like on live television

31:30

and like it's documented forever. And

31:32

you have these like young Palestinian teenagers

31:35

and young adults that are like risking

31:37

their lives every day to film

31:39

what's going on in Palestine, talking to us in English,

31:42

trying everything to

31:45

show the truth, and

31:47

they're being so fucking yeah

31:49

members they're also Hamas

31:51

exactly exactly. They're being targeted

31:54

as people who help Hamas

31:56

and clearly work for Hamas

31:58

and so hinned busts

32:02

in I don't know if I'm saying their names right, Motas,

32:07

Plastia. All these journalists who

32:09

are on the ground, who are all within you know, they're

32:11

in like their twenties, who

32:14

like shouldn't have to be living

32:16

through this, are

32:19

just doing the work

32:21

and reporting what's

32:24

happening in Palestine

32:26

in Gaza and are

32:28

being targeted, Yeah, exactly.

32:32

Their families are getting targeted, like nothing

32:35

is and they still have the

32:37

bravery encourage because they have no other option

32:41

but to film

32:43

and share what's happening. And we still have people over here

32:46

that are like, it's complicated.

32:49

It's like the least complicated situation

32:53

in the world. You just refuse to acknowledge the Palestinians

32:55

are people, which is your own

32:58

dark, dark, deep seated racism.

33:02

Yes, it's

33:05

really shitty when you realize, like, oh, there's

33:08

like a lot of people that actually don't

33:11

think we're human beings.

33:14

It's like, oh, it's so easy for them to justify

33:17

violence against a brown population, brown

33:19

and black populations. That's what happens to our all

33:21

of history is just easy to justify it because

33:25

that's just what happens to us.

33:28

Yeah.

33:32

Uh, I

33:34

genuinely believe there's gonna be a wreckingning

33:36

and all these people who have been pro

33:39

genocide are going to

33:41

get theirs in a way. I don't know what that means,

33:43

but I'd like

33:45

to think that's true. Same,

33:49

I mean I'm a little nervous about

33:52

not nervous, I mean, like fuck it, but like what

33:55

the future of this country looks like does

33:57

not look great from this point of view.

34:00

So I don't know, especially

34:05

now with like the censuring and everything. It's like, what chance

34:08

does progress have when it comes

34:10

to just like an echalon

34:12

of like bigoted idiots that

34:15

are governing a huge country with so

34:17

much power, and

34:21

then like because the people

34:23

in power are corrupt and evil, evil

34:25

things don't get looked twice at Like I just reminded

34:27

myself of this thing. How a thousand

34:30

Israeli doctors they signed a letter

34:32

demanding that the occupation bomb hospitals

34:34

and Gaza. Yeah

34:39

what, I dude,

34:42

I don't know. I don't understand, like how everyone

34:44

is so genicidal. I don't get it. When did your own

34:46

become so genicidal openly

34:49

evil? And like, like how do you defend

34:51

that? Why?

34:54

I really

34:57

hope you're right that people are gonna get what's coming to them,

34:59

though, because I

35:03

won't. I just don't. I can't accept that, like evil

35:06

people just have great lives and yeah,

35:09

continues on. I would like to believe there

35:11

will be some sort of karma like

35:14

karmaic intervention of some sort

35:16

that's going to really let people know

35:18

that they have they

35:20

have chosen to live on the wrong side of history.

35:23

But one can

35:25

hope that people will eventually

35:28

understand the

35:30

error of their ways.

35:32

Yes, but

35:36

who knows. Let's

35:39

take our break and then we can

35:41

continue. All

35:44

right, b r B, and

35:58

we're back. Uh. I

36:00

want to read this very

36:02

short thing that a Israeli Harvard professor

36:05

wrote about the Israeli psyche.

36:07

I think it's very telling. He's an Israeli

36:10

professor and historian, he says, friends,

36:12

I am a historian. I've researched many

36:14

truly devastating moments in history. And

36:16

I'm also a professor who was taught in many

36:18

places around the world, from the US

36:20

to India all the way to China. And

36:22

I'm sorry to inform you that I have never

36:25

come across, not via personal

36:27

experience nor in the history books, a

36:29

place in which people are more brainwashed,

36:32

susceptible to propaganda, disconnected

36:34

from reality, in denial, and in

36:36

mountainous gaps of awareness from the rest of

36:39

the world, like the state of Israel today

36:41

and the citizens it's comprised of yish

36:44

What more do you need? More

36:48

do you need? The propaganda

36:50

is so blatant

36:52

and obvious now

36:55

it's really silly when people still buy into

36:57

it, especially being like we know

36:59

people are still

37:02

in their way standing with Israel, right, So it's

37:04

like, yeah,

37:10

literally, someone can be smart and

37:12

then this is like the disconnect. I don't get it. Go ahead,

37:14

sorry. Today I

37:18

read that

37:21

that the uh Nissette Israeli

37:24

Parliament has amended the counter Terrorism Law

37:26

to criminalize the consumption consumption of terrorists

37:28

publications, which is just passive social media

37:31

use, with the penalty of up to one year's

37:33

imprisonment. What it's

37:35

just like, you

37:38

just scrolled through Instagram and saw

37:40

pro Palestine posts. They could put you in jail

37:42

for a year. Oh

37:44

my god. You

37:47

hear stuff like that and it just feels like, oh, we're doomed.

37:50

We're doomed. But we can't think that

37:52

way because Palaestines

37:55

need us to keep the hoop alive

37:57

and to keep sharing their struggle. But you

37:59

don't keep But that does feel pretty

38:01

dystopian and psychotic.

38:06

It's yeah, but they're now using that to actually

38:08

target Palestinian citizens of

38:10

Israel as well, So it

38:13

does not end. They will do

38:15

everything they can to try

38:17

and wipe every Arab off the

38:19

face of this earth if they can. Yeah,

38:26

there is an it can happen here episode

38:29

that I think is going to come out tomorrow

38:31

when this is airing, so Tuesday. But

38:34

it's about the Balfour Declaration,

38:37

which is maybe like the most important

38:39

document in the history

38:41

of like why the Middle East is why it is, and

38:44

it was like decades before forty eight. In

38:46

nineteen seventeen, this fucking

38:49

guy just established

38:51

that there was going to be a homeland for Jewish people in Palestine.

38:54

And it's really interesting. It's why I encourage you, if you

38:56

guys want more history on that, to listen to that episode. But

39:00

it really shows you how bigoted

39:03

men in power. Also, this guy was anti Semitic,

39:06

and he was very clear in his anti Semitism, but

39:08

still he's like lauded

39:11

as this like hero or like a it's

39:14

a very important letter for

39:17

Zionists. But

39:21

this man just like gave

39:24

this land away that wasn't even his. It

39:26

wasn't even under British occupation at the time. It

39:28

was under the Ottoman Empire still and in nineteen

39:31

seventeen, the just declared

39:33

that it was going to be a homeland like

39:35

what. It's obviously

39:38

more more elaborate than that, but

39:41

that's like the basic summary, and

39:44

it's just not really talked about, and I think it needs more

39:47

attention because like, it didn't start in forty

39:49

eight either, it started way before that. It

39:52

was like in the in the couple

39:54

of years before forty eight, the Jewish

39:56

population grew from six

39:58

percent to like twenty s seven percent. And

40:01

that was because of this nineteen seventeen Balfour

40:03

Declaration where they

40:05

were immigrating

40:08

Jews into Palestine because Europe

40:10

did not want them. That was literally why

40:13

they were getting rid of their quote Jewish

40:15

problem. This

40:17

is why we say Zionism is anti Semitic

40:19

for many reasons, but like the basis

40:22

of it is rooted in anti Semitism,

40:26

it really is. Oh

40:30

yeah yea. And also I just want to shout

40:32

out that shout outs just feel so like,

40:36

but I just want to point out that Palestinian journalists

40:38

Mohammad Abu Hassira was killed in israel

40:41

strike on Gaza. Yeah,

40:45

he's one of the dozens of journalists who have been killed

40:47

in the bombardment of Gaza. He

40:51

along with forty two family members. They

40:54

targeted his house overnight. Yeah,

41:00

and his body was recovered from

41:04

the debris and thirty

41:07

seven journalists. At least thirty seven journalists

41:09

have been killed in Israeli attacks since

41:11

October seventh, according to figures from the

41:13

Committee to Protect Journalists,

41:18

and thirty two of the journalists

41:20

were Palestinian, four wear Israelian, one was

41:22

Lebanese. I'm

41:25

talking about they're targeting specifically

41:27

the family members of journalists as well,

41:29

Like while the Al Jazeero

41:31

Bureau chief while dot Du, his

41:34

wife, his son, his daughter, is grandson, and

41:36

at least eight other relatives were killed in

41:39

an attack by Israel and he continues

41:42

to this day to report.

41:45

He still shows up every single day and

41:47

reports on what's happening after his entire family

41:50

was murdered. It's

41:55

just a it's

41:58

really shocking. I mean again literally

42:00

some of uh

42:07

literally one of the some of the strongest people in

42:09

this world. And even the United Nations

42:11

Rights Chief vulk Or Turk who Craig

42:14

Mulhipper, who after he resigned,

42:17

wrote the letter too, said it has been

42:19

one full month of carnage,

42:21

of incessant suffering, bloodshed,

42:24

destruction, outrage

42:26

and despair and

42:30

also shows how little people respect the United Nations.

42:32

Is that crazy? Just like international

42:35

law and crimes against

42:37

humanity really mean nothing, Like what

42:39

the fuck is international law for if

42:41

it can get violated? And nothing can happen. I don't

42:43

understand the point of that. The

42:46

un is just like a make believe, pretend

42:49

we're all united in this planet kind of

42:51

fucking organization that is so useless.

42:53

It's so useless, it doesn't do anything.

42:57

Also, all

43:00

reporters quote unquote and journalists

43:02

in the West who are just

43:05

spewing propaganda and not talking

43:07

about like their colleagues getting murdered,

43:10

like, shame on them.

43:12

Like I cannot believe the

43:15

lack of integrity of so many people

43:17

that claim to give

43:20

a shit, Like it's one thing if your job isn't

43:22

about that, but if your whole thing is about

43:24

like being unbiased and uh,

43:27

reporting the fucking news, if

43:29

you're just spewing the same propaganda lies,

43:34

Like what do you stand for? What the fuck do you stand

43:36

for? Why do you work all this way to get to

43:38

where you are and then stand on a

43:40

pile of shit? Yeah,

43:46

it is a real pile of shit. Mm

43:49

hmm. This

43:55

ahead to me me quote is what I really like. It

43:57

says, Uh, I'm not the victim

43:59

of a patient the Settler trial

44:01

who carries a rifle at fifteen. They

44:04

are the victims of occupation. I

44:06

am capable of distinguishing between right

44:08

and wrong, but his heart is filled

44:10

with hatred. I am a freedom fighter.

44:13

I will not be a victim. Jeez,

44:21

well, I don't know what

44:23

else you want us to say.

44:27

I mean, it's really sad.

44:30

I mean, sad is such an empty word when it comes

44:32

to how this feels.

44:35

But every photo and video

44:38

that we see of a Palestinian person,

44:40

all I'm thinking is like, are are they alive?

44:43

Is there family safe? Like? Where

44:45

are they now? And there's all these old

44:47

videos of Palestinians going around and all I can

44:49

think of like are

44:52

they okay? Because they probably

44:54

aren't, and we failed them. We've failed

44:56

the Palestinian people as a whole fucking world.

45:02

I'm paraphrasing this thing. I saw someone right,

45:04

but losing friends over

45:06

differences in ideology

45:09

or whatever. This is even ideology, losing friends

45:12

in the fight between like

45:17

supporting Palestine liberation, it's you're

45:19

not losing anything, you and

45:23

even if you like, it's

45:26

just they're not worth it. They're truly

45:28

people are just not worth it. If this

45:30

is the red line that stops them from

45:33

seeing humanity, does

45:35

that make sense? Yeah?

45:42

Well, I just a horrifying image Okay, Well

45:46

as you do when you're reading

45:48

about all this as you see bodies

45:51

burned and bruised and decapitated,

45:55

see babies dead, and the amount of dead

45:57

babies I've seen you guys

46:02

hanging off. Yeah, like, well

46:04

a thread like I why are we

46:06

seeing this? Why? Why do we as people

46:09

have to witness this

46:11

as like

46:14

like to bear witness to such tragedy.

46:17

Why do the Palestinians have to go through this? Why

46:19

do the Gazans have to go through this? Why does anyone

46:21

have to go through this? Like

46:24

why can't someone in

46:26

their right mind just say stop

46:28

this? But the

46:31

right person can't and that's what sucks.

46:34

Yeah,

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well that's that. Yeah,

46:40

I'm sure we'll be back

46:42

in a week. Still

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really angry.

46:48

That's all folks, just

46:50

saying it's not all because I'm sure they'll continue

46:52

bombing everyone in Gaza. Yeah.

46:56

Please do not stop sharing about Palestine.

46:59

Thank you for all the people that have listened

47:01

to these episodes and appreciated

47:03

the information. Just

47:06

follow Palestinian activists and people

47:08

that are on the ground and support them and share

47:11

their truth and combat

47:13

propaganda. And do not be afraid if

47:16

you are challenged, because you know

47:19

you are in the right, because there's

47:21

no way you are in the wrong when you were advocating for

47:23

a human life to be saved. If

47:25

there was a ceasefire today, the people that are going

47:27

to be dead tomorrow wouldn't die. Like

47:29

it's just that simple. It's like death and life

47:32

put everything else aside, and that's all it

47:34

boils down to. So I just don't

47:36

want people to be afraid of making

47:39

people mad, because that's truly

47:42

the silliest thing in

47:44

the grand scheme of things. So I guess

47:46

the whole point just keep sharing and

47:50

we have to be their mouthpiece.

47:53

I guess I just saw

47:55

this, but the Prime Minister of Belgium

47:58

is saying that it's time for sanctions against it Israel.

48:01

Hell, yeah, it's

48:03

good to see.

48:06

Sanctions were essential for South

48:08

Africa, so maybe

48:11

that's part of it. And I also want to shout out Matt

48:13

Leib's really hilarious videos

48:15

he's been making. Those

48:17

are very satire some of the

48:19

funniest stuff I've seen in a long time, and

48:22

he is really nailing these sort

48:24

of satirical Zionist

48:26

behavior and I just he's

48:29

killing it. So I just want to shout

48:32

those out. Go watch his videos on his Instagram. He's

48:34

so funny. We should have him on the podcast Talk more

48:36

Ya so great. You should

48:38

have him on for sure. And I mean Francesca's

48:40

also doing amazing work. I think they're just a fiorantiny.

48:43

Yeah, best power couple, I know. I like

48:46

Matt's videos are especially funny because

48:48

like he's talking as a white Jewish man

48:50

and so I think people that don't know where he's going

48:53

actually think he's about to like be

48:56

as Zionist. It's

48:58

just it's so entertaining to me. It's so he's

49:01

so uh.

49:03

It's just nice to be able to like haha

49:06

at times right now.

49:09

Yeah,

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49:34

I guess that is it? Uh

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you know. Yeah. You can follow us at ethnically

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stuff at ethnically Am on Twitter,

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