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france are several
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islands which have a unique status in the community
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they , part of the country,
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they share they same monarch as
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the united commonwealth
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are more about the channel
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islands, the bailiwick of jersey, and
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i think if we didn't episode and what seems
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like a really simple question but is actually
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quite tricky what is
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a country if you look at a map
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of world will see most of the land divided up
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into different sections with lines around them that
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are differently colored these ,
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defined countries do in fact cover most
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of the earth and these cases are pretty cut and dry
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that , mongolia to spit is namibia
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and that tiny bit as luxembourg while
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these countries do account for most of the war they
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don't quite account for everything
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there are places that are edge cases
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the on full fledged countries with a seat in the united
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nations but nor are they territories
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of country like to brought her guam or
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greenland such is the case
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with the channel islands the
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channel islands or a collection of small islands
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located in the english channel they said
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just north of normandy and are far
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closer to the french coast and they are to england
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if you look at a map and didn't know any better
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you would assume that they were part of france but
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they're not the channel islands
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consist of two separate jurisdictions
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the bailiwick of jersey and the billie
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with of guernsey if you've
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ever heard of the american state of new jersey
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and ever wondered where old jersey was
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well it's off the coast of france
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the name new jersey came from came bailiff of
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jersey was given was grant of land biking
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charles the second why you
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may have heard of a breed of cow called a guernsey
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the guernsey comes from the island that bears
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its name jersey is
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the southernmost of the to bailey wix and jersey
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is the only populated island in the bailiwick
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with a population of about one hundred and six thousand
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the bailiwick of guernsey is to the
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north the main island of guernsey is
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the largest with a population of sixty three thousand
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but there are a few other small populated
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islands as well alderney has
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a population of two thousand sark has
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a population of six hundred and herm
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has a population of sixty literally
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the channel islands are considered to be crown
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dependencies the only other
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crown dependency is the isle of man
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which will be the subject of another episode
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there's a crown dependencies they are not
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part of the united kingdom they have
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no representation in parliament however
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they are also not territories
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of the united kingdom such as gibraltar
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the falkland islands or st helena they
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are also not sovereign countries such
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they are not members of the european union's
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united nations or the commonwealth of nations
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which consists of mostly former british colonies
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the sovereign of those jersey and
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guernsey is the british monarch who
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at the time of recording is charles the third
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however the monarch is recognized
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as the crown in jersey or the
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crown in guernsey not
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as the crown of the united kingdom this
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sounds suspiciously similar to how the king
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is the king of canada or the king of australia
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separately from being the king of united
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kingdom this sounds suspiciously
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familiar to how the monarchy as the king
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of canada or the king of australia separately
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from being the king of united kingdom this
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would seem to make the channel islands more similar
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to independent countries likewise
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the crown is represented locally in each
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jurisdiction by a lieutenant governor similar
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to how the crown is represented in other countries
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by a governor general however
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jersey and guernsey each use the pound
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as their currency or at least the issue
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their own pound note separate from the bank of england
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or scotland they have their own passports
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that say british passports on the front
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and are treated as uk passports for the
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purpose of travel jersey
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and guernsey are represented by the united kingdom
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diplomatically spans uk is
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also responsible for their defense all
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these things make them sound like a british
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territory so how
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did this on political situation com about
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how did these islands become a creature which
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internationally are considered neither first
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nor foul it all goes
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back over one thousand years given
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their location right off the coast of normandy it
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should come as no surprise that they were once part
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of the duchy of normandy intense
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sixty six the duke of normandy a
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guy that you might have heard of by the name of william the conqueror
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invaded and conquered england the
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new king of england held the channel islands
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as part of his lands along with england
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and normandy the for about one
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hundred and fifty years normandy was held by the kings
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of england however having land
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on the other side of the english channel was never
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really a long term tenable position the
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friends were never tina but the holding on to
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territory and mean one france
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the french king sol per second set about taking
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back normandy some english over
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a ten year period from twelve or four to twelve
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fourteen the french and english fought for control
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of normandy a war that the french
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eventually one the english
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king john was normandy but managed
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to retain control over the channel islands
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his successor henry the second formally seeded
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his claim to normandy but the channel islands
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remain part of henry's claim although
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like normandy it was never part
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of england the crowd eventually
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appointed a bailiff for both jersey and
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guernsey the term bayless had different
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meanings in the middle ages and in the case
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of the channel islands a bayless was basically
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the top civil servant on each island as
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they were regions governed by a bayless
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they were known as bailey wix which
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is the term they're still known by today here
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i need to stress that jersey and guernsey
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are totally independent entities of each other
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while they are often lumped together as the
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channel islands which i'm doing in this episode
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they are legally totally different things
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they don't share any laws in infrastructure
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or any institutions the
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only thing that they share is a television
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station the channel islands
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weren't really a major player in the history
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of either france or england they were
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just sort of their and for the most part
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didn't really play a role in the affairs of either country
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their primary business was fishing and farming
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and that was about it they
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did however suffer from constant piracy
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in changes in free policy between england
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and france the were mostly
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the victims of the historical trends with
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swirled about them when henry
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the eighth adopt a protestantism of jersey
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and guernsey did as well however
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because they were protestant and not part of france
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the attracted many of the calvinist protestants
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from france during the french revolution
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the island once again saw an influx of refugees
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but this time it was mostly aristocrats
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who are fleeing madame guillotine the
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biggest historical event happened to the channel
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islands occur during the second world war
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how the channel islands experience
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the war was radically different than how
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the rest of the uk experience the war when
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the germans invaded france the british expeditionary
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forces were routed and almost extinguish
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but for the miraculous evacuation from dunkirk
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the people in the channel islands couldn't have known
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that right after france was invaded the
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british government decided that the islands weren't
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of strategic importance and they weren't going
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to expand men and ships to defend them when
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charles de gaulle fled france he did so
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by flying to the island of jersey on june seventeen
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sacking forty on june
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twentieth all of the remaining british
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troops on the island were evacuated the
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british eventually realize that an evacuation
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of the civilian population of the island to be
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necessary but by the time they realized
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that he was too late guernsey
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did manage to evacuate eighty percent of their
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children from the island and another twelve thousand
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adults jersey however
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only managed to evacuate about twelve percent
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of it's population the germans
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enter the island on june thirtieth that
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they didn't know that all the military personnel
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have been removed from the island ten days off your
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as the information had been suppressed by the british
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government because the british
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didn't make the information public the german
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went ahead assuming that the island for fortified
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and forty four civilians were killed in the invasion
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the germans quickly set up defensive fortifications
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on the island and incorporated the islands
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into vichy france the
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germans were rather lenient at first
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allowing the existing institutions to function
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with the obvious cobb yeah that they could veto anything
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or issue their own orders they
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change the time zone of the islands as well
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as made everyone drive on the right over
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the course of the war life became harder and harder
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on the islands supplies dwindle then
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most islanders lost their jobs while
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there was an interest in a resistance movement little
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was done as repercussions on the population
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would outweigh any strategic benefit the
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germans actually brought in soviet forced
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labor to build fortifications on the island
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is part of the i'm an atlantic wall while
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the british didn't see any strategic value to the islands
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hitler saw a great deal of symbolic
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value as they were the only part of the british
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islands that were occupied by the nazis during
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the war for this reason the
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island was some of the most heavily fortified
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sections of the atlantic wall when
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you beaches of normandy took place in june of nineteen
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forty four the people on the islands assume
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that liberation was just around the corner as
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the allies or now only a few miles away
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in france however in invasion
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of the channel islands never happened the
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allies kept moving forward on the continent the
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continent ignored the islands the
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winter of nineteen forty four and nineteen forty
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five was the worst of the war and
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sam and would have broken out for both civilians
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and the german occupiers had it not
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bad for red cross ships that brought in supplies
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the german occupation of the channel islands ended
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on may nine stinking forty five one
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day after v day when
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the german high command surrendered some
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of the smaller islands took another week for the germans
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to surrender the rebels jersey
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and guernsey have economies that rely heavily
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on tourism and offshore banking nepal
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your banking destinations for europeans because
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they use the pound are not subject to british
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laws yet still have a tightly regulated
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banking industry on like offshore havens
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in other countries there has been
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some talk in jersey of declaring independence
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but it isn't something that will probably be done
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anytime soon unless or was to be some sort
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of major incident there actually
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isn't anything stopping them from declaring independence
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as they aren't actually part of the united kingdom
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spot in my bag relations with them more
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difficult and they would have to increase expenditures
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those jersey and guernsey have taken a more active
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role in their international relations in recent
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years and they now both have unofficial
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consulate in france one
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ambitious idea which has been floated is
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the connected jersey to the french mainland
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via a total and then potentially
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connected jersey and guernsey with tunnel
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both tunnels built it would be on a par
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with the length of the channel tunnel which costs
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twenty one eight billion inflation adjusted
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pounds our lead
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the most common way to visit jersey and guernsey is
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via ferry the airports in england
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in school and portsmouth and in france
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in cherbourg in st malo i
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don't vary from portsmouth back and twenty fourteen
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and it was the worst boat experience of
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my life we're extremely rough seas
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in about half of the passengers were vomiting on the way
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over i felt really
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sorry for the crew that had to clean the ship
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and you can fly there as well it's a one hour flight from
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london that being said bush
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jersey and guernsey are like visiting a small
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town in england but with their own unique works
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the issue there on how notes which are always fun to try
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and spend if you go back to the uk and
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it's also it's also interesting way to travel between
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england and france is you are so and find jersey
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and guernsey or two of the oddest places
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on earth at least from a legal standpoint
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they aren't countries and they aren't territories
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of other countries either they are culturally
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english yet geographically much closer
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to france if you're interested
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in visiting small countries and are places then
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you should consider visiting jersey and guernsey
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because their destinations that would be well
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