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Donald. I'm very excited today. I'm very

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excited today to listen man hold on before

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we get it started and before we get into this. I'm

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so happy with all of the press that we're getting

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and all of the people that are listening to us

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and stuff. Thank you for fans of tuning in.

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This is really amazing. We certainly weren't expecting

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it. We just did press to Australia.

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I I we certainly weren't expecting this kind of reaction,

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not at all. And I did some press for

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Emergence today and they wanted

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to talk about the podcast and

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it was overseas those like in the UK

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and stuff. I guess we're are we playing in

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the UK? Is this true? All over the

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globe? You can listen to this and Stodd

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you can listen? Can you really listen to it? And Stod

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yes, you know. If you have a computer, you can

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listen to us right as long as you have I Heart.

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Wherever you get your podcasts, you can hear

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we will, I guess, but I just want to say that,

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Red Bull, if you want to sponsor us, you should, because

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I just drank a full one and I am so hyped

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up right now. I'm so

1:01

thrilled about our guest, so am I.

1:03

I'm very excited about who we have on the show.

1:06

At first, we should sing, Donald, let's get

1:08

into it. Seven stories

1:11

about show we made, about

1:14

a bunch of docs and nurses and

1:16

jan stories

1:24

around here are around

1:27

here, all

1:33

right now. You might know her as America's

1:36

favorite Canadian. You

1:38

might know her as uh second Becky.

1:41

You might know her as the beautiful

1:43

blonde that starred on the show

1:45

Scrubs for many years. Go ahead,

1:48

Donald, you do the intro. Ladies and gentlemen,

1:50

boys and girls, cats, dogs, whatever

1:53

you may be. Please welcome to the show.

1:56

The one and only Sarah

1:58

Chaws s Hi,

2:03

Sara. Don't worry, we'll add thunderous applause.

2:05

It don't sound like you walked into a stadium.

2:08

Yeah, Dan, can can you add the thunderous applause?

2:10

Thank you? All right, here's Sarah Chalk Hi,

2:13

Sarah. I even didn't know whether to talk because

2:15

I didn't hear the thunder supplause. I thought maybe I

2:17

was just getting a glitch in these fancy

2:19

headphones. Can I see you guys?

2:21

Like right now, I'm staring at the garage band screen?

2:23

Can I make it small so I can see you guys? You

2:26

gotta click on zom so,

2:28

so Dan, can I make Can I hit the yellow

2:30

button and make garage bands small? I'm just gonna put

2:32

it out there. You ruined our introduction.

2:39

I don't want to edit it out. Dan, listen, now

2:42

that Sarah has ruined the mag you want the

2:44

fans to know that we've been on We've been

2:46

on zoom for a half hour. Well, Sarah was

2:48

getting technical support from Sarah

2:51

literally had a Sarah had a technical

2:54

intervention with our She

2:56

was like, how do you start your laptop? And

2:59

yet I've still felt I've never felt

3:01

more proud are you than I do in this moment,

3:03

Because okay, I just want to successfully. Jean

3:05

Michelle is going to edit this out. Just give me one second.

3:07

I'm gonna hit the yellow button in the corner, Dan and

3:10

minimize garage bend so I can see Zack

3:12

and Donald. Do it. Just do it. You

3:14

don't even have to ask. I'm worried that Sarah is gonna call

3:16

Dan for other technical help in her

3:19

life. She's gonna be like, hey Dan, I'm

3:22

signal, I

3:26

have Dan email. How

3:32

are you? I'm good, guys.

3:34

I miss you. I miss you, and now seeing you

3:36

on this zoom is making me miss you more.

3:39

Where are you quarantining in Canada? I

3:41

imagine, so I'm quarantining. I'm quarantining

3:44

Canada. My sister and I have decided to quarantine

3:46

our families together. So we have communally

3:50

six children, three dogs, and a cat.

3:52

Wow. How are you doing school?

3:55

How school going? School's interesting?

3:57

School is um

3:59

Basicly, we have children between

4:01

the ages of three and sixteen, so

4:04

we'd only have so many screens and so much bandwidth

4:06

to attend different online classes.

4:09

So we've been kind of doing some of that and

4:11

then some group classes. I my

4:13

sister is a lawyer, so she's teaching law,

4:15

so like really right things like you know, UM,

4:18

lessons on the Rights of the Child, the United Nations

4:20

Convention on the Rights of the Child. Next week's

4:22

the Constitution, and I do equally

4:24

important things like give them cartoons sides

4:27

and they audition for cartoons.

4:29

M you could

4:32

give them a scene from Rick and Morty, and you guys

4:34

could all play parts we have actually

4:36

we've done We've done some some

4:38

cartoons. We haven't reached Rick and Wardy yet because that's

4:40

not appropriate for the four

4:42

year old, and as it's sort

4:45

of you know, tight quarters, we

4:47

haven't gotten there yet. But yet, um it's

4:49

pretty nuts. I mean, I were all

4:51

quarantined together. I'm the designated grocery

4:53

shopper, probably because of all my O C D tendencies.

4:57

So I feel like, um, that's

4:59

the most harrowing

5:01

experience in my life

5:03

right now, which is, uh, you know, I go to the grocery

5:05

store. I have my own version

5:08

of Ppe, which is like rating the drama

5:10

eight prop spin. So I have like

5:12

a tuk and sunglasses

5:14

and I, you know, just put my hottie

5:17

up and gloves on. Is

5:20

a hat? It has a hat? Yes, I'm

5:22

gonna say, I what is it? To Sarah?

5:26

Sarah, if you wouldn't mind translating your canadianisms

5:29

as we go through the podcast. There

5:32

are some non Canadians listening listen.

5:34

Yes, the main the main ones really are two

5:37

Garberrator Parcade

5:39

and Seawall. What what's Garber?

5:42

The garbage dipposal the garbage disposal? Got it? Yeah?

5:45

Which happened to be the first thing that broke when I went

5:47

when I came to Los Angeles and the landlord

5:49

did not understand me. A parkade,

5:53

a parking parking structure. Your

5:55

Canadians doing very well, you've been studying.

5:57

I'm just guessing. I'm playing a game called guests.

6:00

The Canadian expression, are there any any

6:03

parcade? Um? Seawall?

6:07

What's a sea wall? The obvious? And

6:13

then you have that thing with the gravy and fries.

6:15

What's that called? But that's okay,

6:19

I know about Putin's so good. Yeah,

6:21

it's the gravy and the cheese kords on top

6:24

of a of the fries. It's fries,

6:27

but they take great pride in it in Canada.

6:30

How's your guys quarantine going? Oh, it's

6:32

amazing. How

6:37

much time do you spend? Donald in

6:41

that closet? Sara Donald

6:43

tells his family that he's recording the podcast.

6:46

Donald's family thinks he records the podcast

6:48

every day and he's in the closet. But meanwhile,

6:50

we do it a week. My wife keeps asking,

6:52

like, Yo, how come when is the next episode

6:55

coming out? You record so many of them, you're

6:57

banking him him soon? Okay,

7:00

see things that Donald records, like four podcasts

7:02

a day in there. Well, I definitely

7:04

do a lot of press. I'll be like, I'm doing so much

7:07

press right now. You can set up

7:09

you should set up your your your PlayStation

7:11

in there. Donald. I just don't know how I get the TV in

7:13

here. That's the problem. D damn

7:16

Dans he knows, Dan,

7:19

do it Dan really quickly. It says, Zoom

7:21

would like to record this computer screen.

7:24

Grant access to this application in security

7:26

privacy preferences. Deny, no,

7:29

no, no, no no, you don't want to record this, Sarah. Dan

7:31

is out, He's not He's not there for

7:33

your technical needs. Okay,

7:37

so let's get into it. Let's get into Wait, before we

7:39

get into the episode, Sarah, Donald and I

7:41

have done this a few episodes now, and now that we

7:43

have you, we wanted

7:45

to ask you tell

7:48

us about your casting process because

7:51

as I remember, you were coming off of

7:53

Roseanne, you were doing that particularly

7:55

unique thing where you had replaced the Becky

7:58

that was used before. Wasn't Yeah it was.

8:01

I was like when

8:03

that happened, so four years before and uh,

8:05

and by the way, I was thinking as well as I was preparing

8:07

for this because Sarah. I do a lot of research. I get really

8:10

into this now. By the way, I found for you Scrubs

8:12

fans out there and for us, I found a website called

8:14

scrubs Wicky w I k I where

8:17

it has like everything you ever want to know about Scrubs.

8:19

Like I'm like, literally, whoever made that? It doesn't

8:21

have everything. It doesn't have us, No, it doesn't

8:23

have us, but it has a lot of It has a lot of insightful

8:25

information. And um, I feel

8:27

like I feel like they should not go to wiki scrubs

8:30

Wicky. Yeah, but it has like it literally has like these

8:32

are the fantasies in the episode. These are the girls

8:34

name j D was called. These are It's like all break

8:36

broken battles. Someone put a lot of work into it.

8:38

Don get him a shout out. Shout out to you

8:40

for putting all that work in. But we got it from here.

8:43

Oh my god, Donald's jealous, all right,

8:45

listen, um Donald that

8:47

as you guys before, I was thinking about Sarah,

8:49

and I was thinking, is there another example

8:52

other than Rosanne? Where and they

8:54

just replaced the actress and had

8:56

them play the same character and witched

9:00

and was he still was he just a different Darren.

9:03

Yeah, I think they just flipped him out, clipped

9:05

him. Tell just briefly about that, because

9:07

I find it's it's a very unique thing, and you've told

9:09

me and Donald and I just wanted if you could just talk

9:12

about what that was like really quickly because I think it's

9:14

so interesting. Yeah. I mean I

9:16

was sixteen when I auditioned, and

9:19

uh it was Glenn Quinn, the guy

9:21

who played my husband Mark.

9:23

The audition was with him and he just made out with seven

9:25

girls consect. We were all dressed exactly the

9:27

same and matching pink shirts, and the whole scene

9:30

was this like makeout scene where he's like baby baby

9:32

camera and I'm like, get a job at the gas station, get a job

9:34

at the gas stations, like baby baby, mimir And it

9:36

was literally like every other actress

9:38

that was auditioning was like twenty two living in Los

9:40

Angeles. I flew in, they flew

9:43

me in for the night to go and read,

9:45

and uh, I just remember I

9:48

was sixteen, he was twenty four and just thinking he is so

9:50

handsome. How am I going to remember one

9:52

line? And they

9:55

said, we'll let you know in in a couple of days, and then

9:57

they called back and they're like, Okay, come back tomorrow and

9:59

read with Roseanne. Then I

10:01

did, And then Tom Arnold called me at

10:03

home a few days later, and he was trying

10:05

to feel out whether I was going to leave the show

10:08

to go to college, because I was younger then

10:11

and still you know, at an age where I would

10:13

do that. And Sarah go Good at the time had left

10:15

to go to Gail and she was flying back to do episodes,

10:17

and Lacy had left to go to Vassar, and

10:20

so I knew right away that that's what he was asked.

10:23

I could tell that's what he was getting at. I was like, he was

10:25

probably not allowed to do that, right, So he was sort of tiptoeing

10:28

around, baby,

10:31

why don't you call what happened?

10:34

Probably yes? So then I said I

10:36

was like, no, no, college, gross, absolutely not. And I knew I would

10:38

go to college, but it was the Rose Angel was a big opportunity

10:40

for me, and I knew that. You knew you were going to lose the

10:43

job over it. So you're like college, college,

10:45

vomit, and I I just did it on the

10:48

side, And so so I

10:50

got the job. At the craziest part of the story

10:52

that I actually hadn't remember and we were talking about

10:54

recently was they called

10:56

me and told me I had the job, and I went to a party that night.

10:59

So I'm into this like little high

11:01

school in Canada,

11:03

and I get this phone call that I was

11:05

going to replace Becky, and I told a couple of people and

11:08

it's spread around our high school pretty fast. It

11:10

sounded like a lie. I mean, it doesn't like I'm going to

11:12

replace Becky on the Rosann Show. The Rosantio was the number

11:14

one show at the time. It sounded fake. And

11:18

then I get a call the following week

11:20

and it was the Rosanteo saying, we're getting cold feet

11:22

about recasting Becky, so we

11:25

don't know if we're gonna do it. So we're gonna hold you for four

11:27

months. We're gonna give you ten grand to

11:29

hold you. So, first of all, I've never heard of money like ten

11:32

tho dollars. I thought to do nothing, like

11:34

just to sit here for four months while you make a decision.

11:36

And then the other half of me thought, like my

11:38

ass is grass and school, like

11:42

they're gonna tell me in four months if we're

11:44

actually going to do this. So I had to kind

11:46

of wait brought that money, so you should

11:48

have brought that money to school. And just for

11:55

those of you who don't know, this is called a holding deal

11:58

holding fee. Excuse

12:02

me what I fanned my face with my holding

12:04

view and

12:08

then uh, and then I know, and by the time you converted

12:10

to Canadian dollars, it was obviously a

12:13

whole different situation. So so

12:15

yeah, it was a crazy It was a crazy experience.

12:17

I was a baby and I had

12:19

no idea what I was doing, and I just watched like

12:22

Roseanne and Laurie Metcalf and Sandra Bernhardt

12:24

and sad Or Gilbert and John Goodman and Johnny

12:27

Galecki and this like ridiculous list

12:29

of comedians and um, it

12:31

was kind of in awe and

12:34

a little bit terrified. And then

12:37

after two seasons, they you know, gave everybody

12:39

hugs by, like I'll see you guys after hiatus, which

12:41

is the break that you take between

12:43

seasons for anyone listening, it's

12:45

that weird term. And uh, then I get

12:47

a phone call saying Lucy's coming back to play Becky

12:51

and apparently I said I want to talk

12:53

to Roseanne for closure. I don't remember

12:55

doing that, but apparently what I said,

12:58

and so I did, and then

13:01

UM and then they called me like six

13:03

episodes into the following season and said, come back

13:06

this week. Darlene is getting married

13:08

in an episode and can you

13:10

come down and be Becky? And I was like it went and they

13:12

said tomorrow. So Lacy had just Leazi

13:14

had just changed her mind and she left. They

13:17

didn't tell me, they just said can you come back tomorrow? And I said,

13:19

well, I'm going to college

13:21

up here now and uh, and

13:24

I'm doing this UM movie of the

13:26

week where John Ritter, interestingly enough, who played

13:28

obviously your dad on Scrubs, I

13:31

was doing a TV movie with him up here,

13:34

and I said, so I can come on. I can come on Friday

13:36

night for tape night. So it was the craziest day. I remember. I

13:39

wrote an ocean off the exam at like six thirty in the

13:41

morning, went straight into the scene with this pregnancy belly. I

13:43

just remember ripping the pregnancy belly off on the way

13:45

to the airport and got

13:47

to l A and they had a car waiting

13:50

for me with hair and makeup in the car. Did

13:52

my hair and makeup on the way to the live taping,

13:54

and the taping had already started and I hadn't seen anyone since

13:57

I'd been fired, and they

13:59

were like, hold these flowers, say this, stand here, do this.

14:02

You got to you know, the point where Roseann would take questions

14:04

from the audience, and that somebody said, why do you keep

14:06

switching Becky's back and forth? And she was like, well, it's

14:08

gonna be Chalky from now on, And that's

14:10

how I found out I had the job back for the last year

14:12

and a half of the show. Wow, that's

14:14

insane. I really think, Sarah, that is

14:16

a that is a story that I never

14:19

heard of another actor having. That is just if

14:22

you're if you're I mean, when do you ever see

14:25

or hear something like that happening to an actor. That's

14:27

just insane. Well, we as we all know, Sarah

14:29

has the craziest luck in the history of

14:32

like just everything happens to Sarah. We

14:34

touched on that a bit in an earlier episode, how

14:36

you would come in on Monday morning and you

14:39

would have a story that was like nothing

14:41

else we had ever heard, and it happened every

14:43

week. Honestly,

14:47

I still feel like sometimes I need to call you guys,

14:49

because I'm like you you would not believe what

14:51

just happened to me. Lately, it's mostly at the

14:53

grocery store. I mostly want

14:55

to call you after I leave the grocery store and be like, take

14:57

a deep breath and be like, Okay, do

15:00

I get there the produce box bottom self and

15:02

all the products drops in the main

15:04

aisle where everybody's standing. That's the wound behind

15:06

me, costs little in front of me. I mean that is every

15:08

day. You just couldn't believe that. Every Monday morning, you

15:10

would be like, you are not going to believe

15:13

what happened to me this weekend? And

15:16

then and then we'd be like, yeah, right, and then

15:18

it would she would go into a story that was like that's

15:21

the most insane thing I've ever heard. That's

15:23

just this weekend, right, And also it

15:25

would be so crazy that I'd be like, there's no way she can make

15:27

this up. I

15:30

mean, it is incredible

15:32

how similar I

15:35

am with Elliott. Okay,

15:37

well, let's talk about the audition process. Talk

15:39

about That's a good segue into

15:41

talking about getting scrubs now, because

15:44

what was what was the auditioning process? When I read

15:46

finally came around to getting callbacks?

15:48

I was I was reading with you. So you were were you

15:50

the first person cast? Doll

15:53

and I were cast together. My audition

15:55

process, I had just moved

15:57

back, like after the Rosanto, I moved back to Canada

16:00

for four years and then

16:02

my best friend had finished film school and she

16:04

wanted to produce and I

16:06

wanted to act, and there's you know, there was

16:08

just at the time not as much filming in Canada

16:10

as does now, and I um creatively

16:13

was like, Okay, I'll go back and give Ellie

16:15

another try. We had a we got a six month

16:17

sublet and we moved down. We didn't know

16:19

anyone, and we never had any plans. And

16:22

so this one night we had plans. We were going to a

16:24

show and I get this. I had

16:26

two auditions and my you know for the next

16:28

day. And normally, so type A I would have canceled

16:31

my plans and spend every second that existed

16:34

between getting the sides until going

16:36

into the audition working on it. And I

16:38

was like, you know what, funk it, I'm not canceling, you

16:40

know, on Jen, We're going to go to the show. And

16:43

I got home and it was midnight and

16:45

my audition was at nine am, and the other

16:47

audition was at noon. My Scrubs audition was at

16:49

nine am, and I I

16:51

opened the script and I started reading it, and I

16:54

swore every page. I was like, fuck, gosh, oh

16:56

my god, this is so good. And every page

16:58

I was like, oh shit, this is like the thing I've ever read.

17:00

Oh funk. I want this job so badly. I want this part

17:02

of it. And so by thirty

17:05

I like sitting there with having

17:08

read the script and with these sides, and I

17:10

love the show. I love the writing. I love the part

17:13

so much. So I thought, okay, I'll skip the other

17:15

audition. I won't read that one. Whatever that is goes in

17:17

the garbage. And I read with dead

17:20

b and Brett the Cash instructors at nine

17:22

o'clock on a Friday morning, and

17:24

they said, okay, can you come back at three to read with

17:26

Bill's sign. And

17:29

then one of our one

17:31

of Jen's and my very very good friends

17:33

husbands was in town for work

17:36

and he had come over to visit us,

17:39

and so him and Jen, Aaron

17:41

Brindle and Jen read the read the

17:43

sides with me, and so

17:45

we just kept like running them and

17:48

then I went and and audition with Phil

17:50

at three. Auditions were like ten

17:52

days later because they were still casting other

17:54

people to go to studio and network. So then

17:56

we did studio and then network. So there's four auditions

17:59

and I were the same thing. I

18:03

remember that about Sarah because the

18:05

last two auditions we were there together. I

18:07

remember that, and you wore the same jeans with

18:10

the big gass belt and

18:12

it had a big belt buckle. Am I right,

18:15

Okay, I know the belt you're talking about. I

18:18

went through a very big belt buckle collecting

18:20

phase, so I had this old vintage

18:22

leather belt and then I would switch out like a like

18:25

an old Coca Cola belt buckle or like so

18:27

I did wear not a lot, but in my memory, I

18:29

don't know we could both either. I have no

18:31

idea which one of us is right. But in my memory what I wore

18:34

was I wore black boots that the

18:36

heel, black pants and a tight black tank

18:39

top. Because when I first

18:41

moved to l A and I would go on these

18:44

auditions, I remember I went out for an air and spelling during

18:46

these like plaid funky bell bottoms that I thought

18:48

really cool in this like vintage T shirt. I

18:51

thought that I like super excited about the South,

18:53

and I walked in and there were ten

18:55

girls and they were all wearing tight black tank tops

18:58

and tight black pants, and I thought, Okay,

19:00

so that's how you do it. Here,

19:02

got it. I remember the jeans being

19:04

blue. I do remember them being I thought they

19:06

were tight as fun too. I remember being like, damn Jesus

19:09

tight. I

19:12

was the same. I was the same way, not

19:15

with the tight jeans, but I the second I started

19:17

getting callbacks, I was like, I'm not I'm not washing

19:19

this. I want my pheromones. I

19:21

want my pheromones on it. I'm I'm not

19:24

jinxing this thing. And I would get like

19:26

another callback and be like not changing

19:28

not I mean, I was just so towards

19:31

the end, I remember I was like doing

19:33

the same thing. I did that. When I would get up, I would sit in the chair,

19:35

have a coffee. I would go to the treadmill do thirty

19:37

minute. Like I had a whole regiment. I would listen to the

19:39

same few songs before I went to

19:41

the audition. I had a ritual. Do you remember

19:44

what they were? Uh? Definitely

19:46

Madonna. One of mine was changed

19:49

by blind Melon. I love it?

19:51

How does it? How is a melon? Blind? It

19:53

will make no sense? Donald is the name

19:55

of a very popular band. You might like their

19:58

music. Let's circle back to se our

20:00

audition process. I

20:02

feel like probably, I'm guessing that

20:04

Babies Got Back was another one of the

20:07

songs. Wow, that really got

20:09

you. Do you want to tell them your Baby Got backstory?

20:12

Yeah? I was very impressed that you knew.

20:14

I didn't know that song as well as you knew that song.

20:16

For grad parent event, we had to do talent

20:19

for the parents, and kids got up and played the violin and the piano,

20:21

and ten of my girlfriends and I got up and danced

20:24

and we had a whole routine. It

20:27

was a bit sexual. I think that was kind of odd for

20:29

the talent show. I think

20:31

all of our parents were probably, like I asked

20:33

them, I should like, what did you think when your

20:36

child was up there at grad parent event? It seems

20:38

like a very odd How old were you guys? We

20:40

were in grade twelve, which is Canadian, right,

20:43

so you're about to graduate. We were in grade

20:45

twelve, which is Canadian for twelve grade. Yeah,

20:49

So any who uh listened

20:51

to my songs the hold BC lot

20:54

and in the quarant clean up, I did find

20:56

my sides from the Idit Little Visitors

20:59

pass up save both

21:01

of those. But I remember

21:03

being in the parking lot and just like seat

21:05

back in the car and lying there, and

21:08

someone told me to do this. I've never told anyone

21:10

this, but um two, visualize

21:14

yourself walking into the audition, visualize

21:17

the whole thing playing out, and visualize

21:19

yourself walking out and it going really well. And

21:22

um so I remember sitting in my car NBC

21:24

parking lot, closed my eyes visualizing the

21:26

whole thing. And then um and

21:28

then Donald and I were in there together with some other

21:31

Turks and some other Elliotts and some other j d s

21:33

and and we basically all took

21:35

turks going in and then they came back out.

21:37

And then you go back in with this person and read

21:39

together. And then they pair you up and you read together. And

21:42

it was yeah, pretty nerve cracking. Let

21:44

me ask you a question. Did you know any

21:47

of the young ladies that were auditioning for your

21:50

role? I knew both of the guys that

21:52

were auditioning for Turk. I knew And not

21:54

only did I know them, I knew them

21:56

well too, Like I hung out with one

21:58

of them, uh and we used to play

22:01

a lot of basketball together. And then the other

22:03

one we did a bunch of movies together, or

22:05

we did a movie together, but I would see him out at the club

22:07

all the time. Was it Denzel? I wish

22:09

it was Denzel. I wish I could be like Deel, I

22:12

got it, you Dzel,

22:17

Denzel, this one's mine. I'm sorry, Sorry,

22:19

buddy, You'll bounce back. Don't worry about it.

22:21

So was that weird to sit

22:23

there with kind of buddies or yeah,

22:25

you know, it was very it was very weird, and

22:28

it was It's also one of those things where it was like,

22:30

you know, if one of these guys get it,

22:32

I'm gonna freaking I'm gonna lose my ship, you

22:34

know what I mean. Like as much as I love

22:36

you guys, and as much as you know I

22:38

have root for you guys, I want this so

22:41

bad. I want this so bad I could I could taste

22:43

it. Both very successful have

22:46

gone on to do other things. I just

22:48

really wanted Chris Turk bed Yeah, well

22:50

you got it. I mean, so when you're sitting in

22:52

that for people that are listening, when you're sitting in that position

22:54

and you're going to suit, you're going to network, you don't have the

22:56

part yet, and you sign a six year

22:59

contract. They call it five plus

23:01

one, and I was like, well, but isn't that six years?

23:05

That's that's that's a contract lingo for.

23:07

Don't tell them it's six years. We're gonna call it five

23:09

plus one. Yeah, five plus one. So you signed

23:11

five plus one. And I feel like that's always such

23:14

a feeling of I

23:16

mean, you're twenty four and you're thinking, wow, until I'm thirty,

23:19

and in any other scenario that would kind of take your

23:21

breath away. In this case, I was just like, yes,

23:23

for the love of God, please a hundred

23:25

years of doing this, Like there was no there

23:28

was no two seconds of thinking about it. Was like I'm

23:30

desperate and wow, if it could

23:32

ever go, I would be grateful

23:34

for as many years as it would go for. And that feeling

23:37

of just complete signing

23:39

that and so hopefully

23:41

that happened. Anyways. Then Bill called me, uh

23:44

the few ardly that day or it was the next day, it was very

23:46

soon after the audition was either later that day or the next

23:49

day, and I couldn't

23:51

believe it. I think we all probably after reading

23:53

that script, kind of felt like it was really something

23:56

special and had the possibility

23:58

of I mean, you obviously you never know, but

24:00

the chance to go for a chime. As

24:04

you know, Sarah, I did not read the script before

24:06

we shot the pilot. I didn't read the script

24:08

until the table read, and I was like, oh, that's

24:10

what happens, dude.

24:13

I didn't know it was a freaking dope pilot until

24:16

my agent was like, dude, this is like a really

24:18

big pilot. I never I

24:20

never knew the trivia that you didn't read the script

24:22

until the table read. I did not know that.

24:25

Remember the Titans, I didn't know what happened

24:27

in the script until the table read. I remember

24:29

we did the dude, I just listen.

24:33

I just knew only my stuff this. I was a kid,

24:35

I was young. Listen. There would be times when

24:37

we be shooting scrubs where you know,

24:39

the whole script wasn't out yet, and you know, because

24:41

the writers were behind, so we would we'd get

24:44

scenes, but Bill would sort of explain what was going

24:46

on, and you know, you shoot out of order. So we'd be

24:48

like Monday morning, you know, time to rehearse, and

24:50

Donald and I are like standing on a table and

24:52

he whispered my amber, like, yo, yo, why

24:54

are we standing on a table? He

25:00

had no idea what was happening in the script.

25:02

All right, we're gonna take a quick break, be

25:04

right back with the legendary Sarah Chuk and

25:14

we're back, and we're back. Sarah,

25:16

tell us about it, just really quickly, really

25:18

quickly. Before I tell you, I need to tell you. My favorite example

25:21

of Donald not having read

25:23

the c was during

25:25

the auditions in the show when you're

25:28

like, I can't remember what but we're

25:30

supposed to be auditioning, and

25:33

Neil and Sam Lloyd are auditioning

25:35

you, and like, I remember you

25:38

walked in and you you

25:40

know, We're like, oh, yeah, I think I could you read the

25:42

actual script? You're like, I think I can you know, come

25:45

up with a dance for that? And you know how to come up with a dance, and you

25:47

just came up with on the spot, and you're such

25:49

a fucking good dancer. You came up with this unbelievable

25:51

dance to poison. And then like, my

25:54

kids are all obsessed with the fact that it's the Fortnite

25:56

dance now and they watch the Fortnite character

25:59

do it. Besides, and

26:01

they've all tried to learn it. We've tried to learn it. I can't

26:04

learn it. I don't think I could even do it again.

26:07

Listen, so that I just want to say the billing off

26:09

what Sarah said. That's a perfect example. Sorry Sarah,

26:11

that is the best example. Donald hadn't read

26:13

the script and everyone loves that dance. People talk

26:15

about it. It's the Fortnite dances everywhere. Donald

26:18

literally showed up and was like, you want me to do what now? And

26:20

he had to and he totally improvised that

26:23

dance on the spot. Well, there was a lot of years

26:25

of you know, I was a huge

26:27

new edition fan, a huge Bell Bib Devot

26:30

fan. I still am a huge new

26:32

addition in Bell Bib Devot fan uh

26:34

and Bobby Brown and Ralph Tresvant, all of them.

26:37

Anyway, I had been dancing

26:39

like that my whole life, pretty much since

26:41

I was like and since ninety two, I was doing

26:43

dances like that. And so when

26:45

they were like we want you to dance to poison, in

26:48

my mind, I was like, yeah, I know, I know

26:50

some steps that I could do to that to everybody

26:53

else, because I remember I was late that day.

26:55

Everybody packed the room that day, and

26:57

I know the pressure was on me, but I was like this is

27:00

this is something that I do all the time. Now,

27:02

there are other times where I

27:05

didn't prepare when we were doing the show,

27:07

and it cost us like hours of filming Donald.

27:10

Remember I was I was directing

27:13

once and Donald had a paragraph

27:15

of medical jargon, like a really hard a

27:17

paragraph you would anyone would have to

27:19

practice a lot because it was like fast

27:22

medical jargon and like five

27:24

sentences. And I was directing and just

27:26

Donald could not get it because he hadn't

27:28

even looked at it. It's not something you could do on the spot.

27:31

And I remember, you know, when you're directing a scene, you normally

27:33

start with the widest shots and then you start

27:35

moving into closer and closer angles.

27:38

And I was like, Donald, we gotta move on, dude, I don't

27:40

worry. We'll cut it together. We cut it together. By the time we

27:42

got to like an extreme close up of Donald's

27:45

face, like eyebrowed a chin, he finally

27:47

got it. And if you watched that episode, like

27:49

Donald does the whole monologue and a shot that's like

27:52

this type, because that was finally

27:54

the only time you ever got it. Those days are over,

27:56

by the way. Just anybody who's looking

27:59

to hire me for any thing. Yeah, I am

28:01

not like that anymore. I don't worry. I'm sure no.

28:04

No casting directors are directors are listening

28:06

to our podcast. But

28:09

what Zach was saying about, you know, getting the

28:11

script sometimes, you know, as the season would

28:14

get towards the end, and the writers were so taxed

28:16

trying to crank out these scripts that

28:18

were so funny. I

28:21

remember one morning we

28:23

got to work on a Monday morning and it was the week that my

28:26

character had the voice over, because each of our characters

28:28

had a voice over for one time, and they

28:31

didn't have the script out yet, but we had to start shooting

28:33

something, and so they said, we're

28:36

just going to do a long kind of steady

28:38

cam shot following you through the hallways, and

28:41

I just want you to change your face around to

28:43

go with different emotions and things you're going

28:45

to write. So just you know, you're walking and you're

28:47

thinking, like a little bit happy and

28:49

you're a little bit sad, and then you're thinking about something

28:52

not for two hours, just me and a steady

28:55

camp like that's funny

28:57

that they probably had to eventually write to your expressions

28:59

because they were changing, because then they didn't and the camera

29:01

didn't want to cut away, so it's like, okay, wait,

29:03

she's about it. Got a second of seriousness

29:06

and then a smile, so like we needed one second

29:09

sentence and then it's something to smile about, and

29:11

then looking a little nostalgic and all

29:15

right, should we go into this episode? This is one of my favorite

29:17

episodes. This is one of my favorite episodes

29:19

of the whole nine years.

29:22

It really is special and I want you to know I haven't

29:24

seen it in in twenty years, and I

29:26

got goose bumps multiple times watching

29:28

it. That's how it really does hold up. I was

29:30

about, there's some really great moments

29:33

in this show, in particular

29:35

with you, Sarah. This this you know, I I looked

29:37

at this show when I first when we first did this show, I

29:39

was like, oh wow, we all get a chance

29:41

to shine here. But this was a

29:44

moment I feel like for you and for

29:46

Judy as well, where you guys. You guys

29:48

really crushed this episode. Like it's really

29:51

fucking good, Like you two

29:53

alone, you you and Judy alone,

29:56

Like really, I don't know what it is, but you

29:58

guys start off on a you know, as adversaries,

30:01

and by the end of it, your friends and that's

30:03

for half an hour. To be able to tell a story like that's

30:06

very difficult to to to start

30:08

two people off his enemies, especially

30:10

when the narrative so far in the show has

30:12

been you guys not getting along. And

30:15

so, you know, it really is

30:17

a testament to how good you are as

30:19

an actress that you guys were able to

30:21

not only bring the funny, but bring the drama

30:24

and then also bring the connection so that the

30:26

story tracks all the way through. And

30:28

I just wanted to give you props on that straight up,

30:31

right out, you know the bat. And also it was so early

30:33

on in the show too, it was episode four, and

30:36

so for us to be able to jump

30:38

in and tell such a good story,

30:41

it's really a testament to how good First of all, Matt Tarsa

30:43

is Holy ship, what a good writer. Matt Sarsas

30:45

wrote it. And we should also say that this was the

30:48

first episode not directed by Adam Bernstein,

30:50

and it was the first episode directed by Mark

30:52

Buckland, who really added a lot

30:54

of cool style. You know, we've spoken about

30:57

how Adam Bernstein really developed the language

30:59

of how the camera moves and scrubs and how you could

31:02

do some trick shots and how there was a lot of creativity.

31:04

The camera was a character in the show, and

31:06

Mark Buckling, I think with this episode, really took

31:08

that and ran with it and added a lot of a

31:11

new language to to the way the show

31:13

was shot. And Bernstein, Um, it should be

31:15

said, directed the Baby's Got Back video in case

31:17

anyone out there does not know that that

31:20

that is. That is beautiful trivia there for you

31:22

Scrubs fans. Sarah can do the full dance

31:24

and knows all the lyrics the Babies Got Back And coincidentally,

31:27

was it sir mix a lot? Yes, it is sir

31:29

mix a lot. Music video was directed by Adam

31:31

Bernstein. There you go. That's not on your scrubs Wicky,

31:33

Right, thank you told you, wicky, Wicky, we

31:36

got it from here. Well, first of all, Donald,

31:38

thank you for saying all those nice things. I felt the same way

31:40

about you guys. Like I was like going, like, wow,

31:43

Donald's ack fucking nail in this episode and it's like

31:45

we just started, like we were a few weeks in. It was that fourth

31:47

episode, but was the third one that we shot

31:49

in that chunk you know, separated out from

31:51

the pilot, and like I feel like

31:53

Bill had told us a long time ago

31:56

that he didn't he say

31:59

to the network, We're gonna set

32:01

it up one out of every three patients

32:03

die here and you're kind of waiting the whole episode to find out

32:06

who it's going to be, and then they all die. I feel like he said that

32:08

in the network and they said, no, you can only have one patient die,

32:10

and he said, no, it's going to be all three. But we have to

32:12

do that. We're coming out of the gate right

32:14

now. We're gonna show the audience

32:16

that this is what the show is. And all

32:19

those years on Scrubs, this one, for

32:21

me absolutely is the one that stands out whenever

32:23

I think of the show as

32:26

being the one that really shows

32:28

the responsibility that's put on these young, young,

32:31

young doctors. I mean, my little sister isn't

32:33

her first year right now of being a

32:35

real doctor. What a crazy

32:37

time in the world to be doing that. Um,

32:40

and I can't believe her

32:42

stories. I can't believe what level

32:44

of responsibility that they're given right out

32:46

of the gate. I mean, you know, I'll be at work on set

32:49

and I'm on lunch, and I come back

32:51

from lunch and she's like, you

32:53

know, she's just been doing CPR on someone

32:55

for thirty minutes, trying to save them,

32:57

and I'm like, well, I was just in here and makeup touch

33:00

ups and they took the same curl and recurled

33:02

it again to make it

33:05

curly like it just it's such

33:07

as it takes your breath

33:09

away. Really, what the decisions young doctors

33:11

have to make? It? Do you think your sister was inspired

33:14

by you? And it's interesting, you know a lot of younger

33:17

sisters might be inspired to that their older sister was a

33:19

real doctor, But because she grew up

33:21

with you playing this character, do you did she think

33:23

that that inspired her at all? Oh? I tried to get

33:25

my Remember, I'd say to my

33:28

family like, hey, guys, like, did you see you know

33:30

I was so excited about the show. I've like you've seen. They were

33:32

like, well, we t voted because it's on the

33:34

same time as twenty four But that Jack Bauer, Like

33:37

what he did? You

33:41

know? They I feel like, you know,

33:43

she's thirteen years younger than me, and I

33:45

would like to think that I had that kind

33:47

of influence, But really she came

33:49

out of the womb a doctor.

33:51

I mean she the stories are crazy

33:54

and yeah, she she was just so interested

33:56

in medicine from such a young age

33:59

and really so calm under

34:01

pressure, like I remember, just just responsible.

34:03

I mean I remember we went on a road trip and she'd

34:06

had her license for maybe two weeks, and my

34:08

dad was like, so she's gonna drive, right, And I was like,

34:10

Dad, I've been I've been driving for thirteen and a years.

34:12

He's like, yeah, yeah, so so she's gonna drive right. Like

34:15

she just is just a much more

34:17

responsible human. But it definitely has

34:20

been interesting just rewatching

34:23

a couple, Like just last night, we're watching a couple

34:25

of early episodes and thinking

34:27

them, thinking about them just in the context of of

34:30

her and and this one in particular, because

34:33

it's pretty it's pretty unbelievable,

34:35

as you know, you see j D and Elliott

34:38

and Turk and the pressure

34:40

that is on them and just all of all of it, like trying

34:42

to figure out, you know, what, what calls they can make on

34:44

their own and when to go for help. Here's

34:47

a little bit more Scrubs trivia. Your

34:49

a little sister taught my eighteen

34:52

year old, when he was probably

34:56

nine to ten months at this time, how

34:58

to walk. That's right on

35:01

the third floor of the hospital right

35:04

in between our dressing rooms.

35:07

That's so crazy. And

35:09

now she's an adult and she's taking care of patients.

35:11

Wow, is she on the front line right now?

35:14

She is. I think about her mostly

35:17

every minute. We can

35:19

pots and pans every

35:21

night, all of us, and my three

35:24

year old is broken a couple of measuring cups

35:26

because she gets so into it. That's

35:30

very what you do. It as like an honor to the healthcare

35:32

workers. Yeah, so it's it's

35:34

really cool. Actually, everybody, everybody

35:37

goes out on there on the everybody goes outside at

35:39

like seven o'clock and just eggs the pots and pans

35:41

and screams and cheers. Oh.

35:44

I like that. I want my neighborhood. I want my neighborhood

35:46

to do that. I I we need a primal scream started.

35:49

It's so cool. Yeah, just seguing

35:52

back to the show, I want to just say that, Um, you'll

35:54

hear us at a minute seconds there's

35:56

there's really cool steadicamp shot that really kind

35:59

of sets up the tone

36:01

of the show. You'll hear us talk about the word

36:03

stead came a lot on on this and if you don't

36:05

know what it is, it's a it's like it's a way of mounting

36:07

the camera on a on an operator's body

36:10

so that the operator can move around and the

36:12

camera just feels like it's floating around. And

36:14

it's something that was used extensively on

36:17

the Scrubs set as we traveled on the hallways.

36:19

But I pointed out, as I was talking about Mark

36:21

Buckling and director's style, how I like this sort

36:23

of way he's introducing that this episode is going to be about

36:25

the three of us, where the camera starts on

36:28

me and then it and then it goes to Sarah

36:30

and it never it never cuts, and then it goes

36:32

by the children, then it comes up to Donald as

36:34

he comes into the room, and and uh,

36:37

I just thought that was kind of an early

36:39

example of something that we did ended up doing a lot

36:41

of of of sort of moving around the hallways

36:44

without cutting a lot. Yeah. Also,

36:46

if I don't know if you guys noticed about the hospital is

36:48

really dark in this episode. Yeah,

36:52

the lights aren't on really everything's you

36:54

know, it's very very dark in this episode.

36:56

Not only that, here's another thing it's jumping

36:58

ahead, but is one of the first times

37:01

where Kelso isn't the bad guy on

37:03

the show. Also, what I've

37:05

noticed is that when we're dealing

37:07

with something like that's as

37:10

powerful or as strong as death,

37:13

it's us versus the hospital. If you've noticed

37:15

that, you know what I mean, it's the it's the

37:17

cast verse versus death. And

37:20

in this one, Kelso gives is

37:22

a mentor in this one. He gives really

37:25

good advice in this one to j D.

37:28

And he's not the obstacle. He's the one

37:30

that's actually trying to help

37:33

solve the problems in this Now, if

37:35

you watch other episodes, he's

37:38

never really liked that, you know what I mean. He's

37:40

always he's always the bad

37:42

guy. This was the first episode, well

37:44

obviously the first episode in the run, but this is the first episode

37:46

that I can remember where I was like, Wow, Kelso was

37:49

on board with us this whole

37:51

time. I like what you pointed out

37:53

to about the lighting because traditionally in in half

37:55

hour TV comedy everything so he's bright, there's like

37:57

this unwritten rule that for it to

37:59

be funny, it's out of you bright. And and

38:02

again just challenging some of the conventions. In

38:04

this episode, both John and Wood,

38:06

the cinematographer, and Mark Buckland

38:08

did things like have have it been

38:11

in dark rooms, you know, having some of

38:13

the dramatic moments like an I see

38:15

you later happened in in

38:17

you know, at at night or or or

38:19

at sundown, which I thought, was I agree, that was

38:22

something I hadn't I had noticed that was this is the first time

38:24

they did that. Yeah, it carries on throughout the

38:26

series two Yeah, at two

38:28

six we meet Katherine Juston playing

38:31

Mrs Tanner. Now she is such an was

38:33

she has since passed away, but it was such an extraordinary

38:36

actress. And I remember she had just done

38:38

a very high profile run on the

38:40

West Wing where that character had

38:43

passed away as well, and I remember

38:45

thinking, well, is that going to be odd

38:47

that she's coming onto our I mean, I'm glad

38:49

she's coming on because she's a wonderful actress, but having

38:52

just played someone else who who died.

38:54

I think. I just remember that being in my head, like she had just

38:56

done such a hope, high profile moment on on

38:58

West Wing. Um. But then

39:01

the second I started working with her, I I just

39:03

felt in awe of her, of her talent.

39:06

That was the furthest thing from my mind. One of

39:08

my favorite moments in the episode when she says, are you

39:11

a good doctor, and you say it's probably too soon

39:13

to tell, Like, I do you feel like it's such a such

39:15

an example of how the

39:17

show walked that line of like you're just

39:19

on the edge of your seat and you're crying and then

39:21

you're laughing. And there's a few moments.

39:24

Oh, there's a couple of moments that I laughed my ass.

39:27

When j D goes to the

39:29

park to meet up with her and

39:32

he's like, you gotta get your ass back to the

39:35

hospital, and then he's like, is that some moores?

39:37

And then they cut away and then they cut back

39:39

and he's still chastising her, but now he's got

39:41

chocolate all on his lips. Yeah, j

39:44

D was not going to pass up a s'mores moment.

39:46

Are you kidding me? Do you think he could

39:48

have felt a big cake? J

39:51

D was not. J D was trying. It's perfect

39:53

j D thing to be like really trying to be taken

39:55

seriously with s'more's chocolate over Alliver's

39:58

lips and they're

40:00

One of my favorite laughout low moments is when

40:02

Donald is doing the workout video,

40:07

which is foreshadowing the Poison Dance a little

40:09

bit, because you're dancing in the very same room and

40:12

and a little bit and some and some sweet moves

40:14

that I guarantee you we're not in the eighties

40:17

workout video, but like she had

40:19

such energy and work. Dude. The Women League of Women

40:21

Voters called and they want to know where to send your

40:23

membership. Sarah

40:27

tell us about I'm a tell

40:30

us about I'm a Chunky Monkey from Funkytown

40:32

because I remember that, and I just was like, who wrote

40:34

that? That is the most random thing in the world. I guess

40:37

Matt Tarsis or who knows. But was

40:40

the idea that you were just testing out? Elliott

40:42

was just testing out that

40:44

she could say anything in front of a woman. Yes,

40:47

yes, I think so, Yes, obviously

40:50

to Carla's there's

40:52

a lot of there's a lot of trivia in this episode

40:54

because we we introduced

40:57

characters that from that moment

40:59

on weren't on the show anymore. Like

41:02

I remember Layla Lee,

41:04

she plays the surgeon in the room

41:07

with Dr Wynn and Turk. She was really

41:09

good. I had the same reaction. I was like, what happened her?

41:11

She was, yeah, So I do know the story. I remember

41:13

we were filming and it was a

41:16

couple of episodes in and she was gonna

41:18

come back as my nemesis. And she

41:21

was saying how she had just got this part

41:24

on a television show that was gonna take her out

41:26

of California, or not out of California,

41:28

but out of the Los Angeles area, and she

41:30

was gonna go do that instead. And

41:32

I remember being like, but what about us? What about

41:35

what about what we've got going? This is so funny,

41:37

And she was like, you know, I'm a guest star on

41:40

this show, but on the other show

41:42

I would be a lead. And so she went and took the other

41:44

job. To be honest with you, remember what the show

41:46

was. It was Tremors. It

41:49

was a syndicated version of Tremors, and I remember it

41:51

ran for a while and I and

41:53

the dad from Family Ties, I think

41:55

is on it. I'm not sure. I just

41:57

remember watching that scene which

41:59

will get too later in the episode, and and you

42:01

guys had such a funny banter that that's spoofing

42:04

of of a couple driving together.

42:06

And then I had the same thought. I go, oh that that

42:09

that young woman was so funny. What happened to her?

42:11

And I guess she got her own show at the time. She got well Yeah,

42:13

she got a job and went on to do

42:16

other things to other people of Scrub's

42:18

lore who were introduced in this episode UM

42:21

seven fifty nine very

42:23

quickly. If you watched Danny Rose killed

42:26

assistant, that obviously became pretty sure on the show. He walks

42:29

by in the park and he has tankers and

42:32

tankers was what a big bulldog that he? Yeah,

42:37

and I just we have to talk about the legendary

42:39

Mike Schwartz, who plays

42:42

his very first appearance, very first appearance.

42:44

A lot of times we're watching these episodes and I forget that some of these

42:46

people were introduced so early. So Mike Schwartz was one

42:48

of the writers on the show, very funny comedy

42:50

writer, and he plays the delivery guy, the

42:52

ups guy if you will that uh is

42:54

first they established him giving something to Kelso

42:57

and then later he comes and delivers the ton of bricks

42:59

to me. He is he We had

43:01

so many laughs with that guy. Huh oh my god. He's

43:03

constantly doing bits and making us all laugh.

43:05

Like he walked by him in the hallway and he'd be like, what's

43:08

that, let's Jay crew. He

43:10

would do this. He would do this bit that I

43:13

don't know why it was so funny. But he would go he would pretend

43:15

to call off to someone that wasn't there, and

43:18

he would and he would do a bit where he was pretending that

43:20

they were asking him who made his shirt,

43:23

and so he'd be reaching for the tag he be

43:25

what, oh hold on, let me Oh yeah,

43:28

it's Jay Crew And it

43:30

was so stupid, but he was talking to no

43:32

one and you would laugh every single time, every

43:34

time in the world where you tap him

43:36

on the shoulder and be like, We ended

43:38

up putting that in the show. Definitely.

43:42

He went on to be the was

43:45

he the drummer for the for

43:47

the air band that same episode that we were

43:49

talking about. He liked his character

43:51

like a later episodes we learned that his character like speed

43:54

metal right and and and that his

43:56

character was a big time like drug addict and everything

43:58

like then was always I and

44:00

he was very lonely. But that that bit about that

44:03

was his bit where you if he no one

44:05

touched him, so if you ever did graze his shoulder,

44:07

he would cad coddle his own

44:10

shoulder because he was so low. He was so

44:12

lonely and lacking of touch, lonely,

44:14

this guy in the world and then Randall Winston is introduced

44:17

as Death. Randall

44:20

Winston was our line producer on

44:23

the show. And uh, for those who don't

44:25

know, a line producer is the producer that really is handling

44:27

the sort of the daily money of things,

44:29

really like the guy with the spreadsheet being like we can

44:32

afford that, we can't afford that. And he

44:34

was a very he was he is a very

44:36

tall man. How how tall would you say? He is? Six seven

44:39

or six six? Yeah, and so he

44:42

he was established early on as as

44:44

death and death

44:46

throughout the whole run. Yes, And some of you are

44:48

too young to know that

44:51

what this joke is about. Connect four, but

44:53

Connect four was was a game from

44:57

but I'm saying they didn't have the cheesy ad.

45:00

She's the add in the eighties was a brother and sister

45:02

playing and the sister wins

45:05

and the brother goes pretty sneaky

45:08

sis. Remember that,

45:11

you guys can look it up on YouTube. And so that's

45:13

why we were spoofing that old eighties ad

45:15

where I go pretty sneaky

45:18

Death. But you gotta do the lead up to it

45:21

is I win where I

45:23

don't see it right here diagonally,

45:26

pretty sneaky sis, Pretty

45:29

sneaky Sis and

45:32

Randall is. His

45:34

main belief was that it's not a party unless

45:36

both hands are in the air. So we had the most incredible

45:39

rap parties and shows.

45:43

We had great parties man and

45:45

Randall and Randall is

45:47

like some of the highlights of

45:49

every part, like the some

45:52

of the best party highlights that

45:54

I've ever experienced involved

45:56

Randall. Fortunately

45:59

for us, the guys ending the money for the party

46:01

really loved the party. Yeah,

46:03

we had some good parties. I'm sure there's episodes

46:06

where they were like, you don't need that set, we're throwing a party.

46:12

Why Johnny sees um home

46:15

space looked very sparse because we needed

46:17

to go to us Why God, we were just talking

46:19

about that. How Johnny see. They didn't get around to

46:21

Johnny sees a building,

46:23

Johnny Sea's apartment. It was just a hospital set.

46:26

But I think Randall spearheaded. I'm sure that like

46:28

we got to we got to go on a that crazy,

46:30

amazing trip everybody to Vegas.

46:33

We had to do like they were able to kind of combine

46:35

a press event with the Scrubs wrap

46:37

party, and so they organized it so like

46:40

our whole cap went to Vegas altogether.

46:43

Because that will never happen ever. In

46:46

Never Again, I doubt any show

46:48

is taking their whole company to Vegas to throw

46:50

a batch. Those those of

46:52

the old days. Yeah, when we got

46:54

to shoot a whole season in the Bahamas with the

46:56

whole critize episode,

46:59

Sarah may have stayed and shot a season. What

47:03

is the season? Donald? I

47:05

want to know the sports question, and I want you to be

47:07

honest. Yes, did you know what the

47:09

quote unquote catch was? Absolutely

47:12

about it. It's a famous thing that sports people

47:14

know about. Absolutely so Joe

47:16

Montana. It looked

47:19

like he couldn't throw it to anyone in

47:21

this game. Now, granted I don't know who who

47:25

uh they were playing, so when we're

47:27

talking about it in the show, I didn't know who they were playing. But

47:29

he found Dwight Clark in the end zone

47:32

and it was you know, it's one of the

47:34

biggest catches in history. As

47:36

a matter of fact, it's a part of a commercial,

47:38

like a Gatorade commercial or something like that.

47:41

And that's how I first heard about it because

47:43

I wasn't a big football fan growing up.

47:45

I didn't I didn't become a football fan until later on

47:47

in life. But yes, I didn't know when we

47:50

did the when when they referenced the catch,

47:52

I knew exactly what it was, Okay, good because I

47:54

didn't know because I I don't know anything about sports.

47:56

If like everyone who's into sports knows, oh, the

47:58

catch, it's called the catch. Well,

48:01

I mean at that time it was called the catch. I'm

48:03

sure since then they're like Eli Manning

48:06

and Mario Manningham they

48:08

have uh, you know how he found him

48:11

on the you know, running down this it's

48:13

it's I didn't know when

48:16

or where the catch was, but I had heard of the

48:18

reference before Donald tell us about the bowling

48:20

thing, because I was laughing at this, going, what are those

48:22

what are those pins? Like? What is that supposed

48:24

to be in the hospital? Those scie things.

48:27

First of all, this this is a testament for how immature

48:29

Christopher Turk was. So the kid says

48:32

to him, hey, it's the catch. Turk turns

48:34

around, goes, yeah, I'll watched the catch with you, and

48:36

within fifteen minutes he's bowling a kid down

48:38

the hospital hall. Like, how

48:40

did this kid convince Like, that's how weak

48:43

willed Chris Turk is. How in

48:45

the hell did this kid convince him

48:48

to put him in a wheelchair and

48:50

push him down the hall into a

48:52

bunch of I guess they were recycling bins.

48:55

Is that what they were supposed to be? I think so, because

48:57

to me they looked like cardboard tubes. That someone

49:00

right, I'm hoping that it was a recycling

49:02

but but like, how did this kid convince him

49:05

and the rest of the floor, Like Chris Turk walked

49:07

out the room and was like, Yo, this is what we're going to

49:09

all right, I'm

49:12

gonna put him in a wheel chair. I know, I know, I just

49:14

started. I know, I just started as a doctor

49:16

here, but I'm gonna roll a patient

49:19

in a wheelchair down the hall. If

49:22

you're a new doctor, don't try that at work,

49:24

please. Well, that that was and that was the great

49:26

thing about the show. Also is that he was held accountable

49:29

for it, you know, uh Kelseo

49:31

right away. And this is where Kelseo mentors

49:34

kind of also like, we're not here to make friends,

49:36

We're here to treat these patients. Dude, be a doctor.

49:39

I wanted to talk about the park Sarahy

49:42

reference that already, but I remember feeling

49:44

really bad at nine minutes and thirty seconds

49:46

slamming that little girl's face into the cake. That

49:49

was hilarious. I wish I could do that to my kids

49:51

sometimes. It was funny. I

49:53

mean it was funny on paper. When we got there and she

49:55

has that cute little face, and I was

49:57

like, so, you guys really want me to jam this girl's

49:59

face into a cake. And they're like, yeah, you gotta

50:01

do it. You can't just like fake it. You gotta do it. And I

50:03

was like, and I talked to her. I was like, sweetie,

50:05

are you okay with this? And she's like, yeah, sure, it's gonna

50:08

be funny. And I was like, all right, here we going. I just jammed

50:10

her head and it felt really nice. Yeah,

50:14

Sarah can attest to this. She has children. As

50:16

much as we love our children, sometimes you want

50:18

to just send

50:21

their face into a cake, especially

50:25

going to be quarantining for the near multiple

50:28

multiple days months. If

50:30

I had the opportunity and I knew

50:33

my wife wouldn't be piste off at me for

50:35

doing it, Rocco's face would have been slammed

50:37

into a couple of its birthday cake, into

50:39

many a cake. I'm just gonna put that out there

50:42

right now, and might need to go bake a couple of cakes.

50:44

Were break and we come back. We have a caller. All

50:54

right, we're getting good at that whole break thing. Joel Um.

50:56

We're very lucky here on this show, Sarah Chalk

50:58

that we get to take a call or once

51:01

an episode. And here she is.

51:03

What's your? What's your? Alexis Torres?

51:09

Donald just gave you an Oprah intro election.

51:13

I was looking for your name. And the good thing about zoom

51:15

is it just says it right there, Alexis Torres, plumbly

51:18

right there on the bottom. Don't

51:23

ruin the woman's hearing she's in quarantine. I'm

51:26

actually in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania right

51:28

now in the house. My

51:31

family has a steakhouse

51:33

nearby called

51:36

the Glass Lounge. Oh.

51:39

I haven't gone there yet, but it's awesome. When you go

51:41

there, I I want you to tell them I

51:43

sent you. If you're in there, if you're in

51:45

that area, go to the good It's gonna be a wild

51:47

buddy, It's gonna be wild. Oh yeah, not now, obviously,

51:50

but you know when when this nightmare

51:53

is over, go check out the Glass Lounge. Yeah.

51:56

I will definitely go for Thank you for coming

51:58

on. And do you have a question. It

52:00

doesn't have to be Sarah Chalk focused.

52:02

It doesn't just because she's want

52:05

to understand human

52:09

and she probably knows the best person to talk

52:11

to it. I mean, well,

52:14

we'll see. Not just kidding, UM,

52:16

I have actually technically question for all of you

52:18

guys, Um, if you could switch

52:20

roles with anyone in the series, any

52:23

character, who would it be and how would

52:25

you play their character? Would it be different than how it was originally

52:27

played? Or that's

52:29

a very good question. Go first. I

52:33

mean, if it meant that I could have Donald's

52:35

dancing skills? Was the fantasy?

52:37

Was that fantasy that Sarah and I were making out and I

52:40

was making out with you because she was you? My

52:42

god, I can start off where you guys are making

52:44

out and then she's like you fantasize about kissing

52:47

Turkis now, didn't you? And

52:50

then I made up with Mandy Moore as myself. You

52:52

were Mandy was dressed up as herself.

52:54

Many was just herself and you were dressed up as me. I

52:56

think, right, I think that was a really beautiful

52:59

moment and television history right there. To

53:01

make out to make out with Judy in the pilot.

53:04

Yeah, that's right. Yeah, we just watched

53:06

that where you made out with the model girl. Is

53:08

that the pilot or is that the second episode? Was

53:10

the second episode? But so you'd like to be

53:12

Donald if you could be anybody else, is what you're saying. Well,

53:15

if I can do that fucking

53:17

poison dance or rowdy, that would

53:19

be pretty low about

53:23

It's a very good question. I guess, um

53:26

Ill it's funny because

53:28

you don't want to pick. You want to have some screen time, right,

53:30

you want to pick one of the seven, so you're gonna have some good screen

53:33

time. I think I would choose

53:36

Johnny c just because, um

53:38

he had such amazing and they just knew

53:40

how to write for him so amazing well, and

53:43

he he was just uh, I

53:46

don't know. I think that I just love the all

53:48

the material they gave Johnny. So I think that would be a really

53:51

challenging fun part to even attempt

53:53

to do walking

53:55

around in banana hammock. That's who I was going to pick.

53:57

If I could pick anybody, I guess it would be Mashi

54:00

uh because if I could get but like we

54:03

we teased, we used to make fun of mash you about

54:05

running line and everything like that. But I had such a

54:08

hard time learning my lines back then that

54:10

I probably it probably would have suited me to play mash

54:12

to. You know, the first thing, like the first

54:15

step to a solving memorizing your

54:17

line style is to actually just do it,

54:20

or to read the script, actually read the

54:22

script. I love how you're always like,

54:24

I just have such a hard time and rossing lines. I'm like, dude,

54:26

you've been playing PlayStation in your pressing room. That's

54:28

all I looked looked at it. Yeah,

54:31

okay, right, do you have another question? Another question?

54:33

We're gonna answer a better one. Yeah,

54:36

your question sucked. That's what I just said. You

54:40

like creative, it was, it

54:42

was thoughtful. I

54:45

think you're spectacular and I love Harrisburg, but

54:47

I think you got a better question than you. No,

54:51

I don't know. No, Now you gotta

54:53

ask, um, what was something

54:55

that you were super proud of back then that you did.

54:57

Maybe it was a scene or a specific

55:00

joke or anything like that. But then now since

55:02

you guys are doing the rewatch and you've

55:04

seen it, now you're kind of like, oh, that wasn't as

55:06

good as I remember a question.

55:09

As guests, you have to go first. Jesus.

55:12

The pressure, I feel like, interestingly

55:15

enough, like you're like, I feel like interesting enough.

55:17

I was just freaking amazing. I mean, I mean, I thought

55:19

you were amazing. Like the early

55:21

stuff a little bit hard, harder to watch.

55:24

I feel like I learned so much

55:26

on the show. I feel like I learned so much from Bail, I

55:28

learned so much from the rest of the cast. And I feel

55:30

like it's so different watching those

55:33

earlier episodes and eight years later, certainly

55:35

with Elliott to the character changed a lot. Like in

55:37

the pilot, we even did reshoots, she was

55:40

much harder and much you know, there was she was

55:42

a bit more of a

55:44

beach in the in the in the beginning, and

55:46

then and then we actually did a couple of reshoots so soften

55:49

her. And then I think, you

55:51

know, the line between me

55:54

and her started to blur. It's the first

55:56

part of your question, what were you the most proud of? Certainly,

55:59

interestingly enough, it's this is definitely one of

56:01

those episodes like when I think back on the eight years,

56:03

this is the first one to pop into my mind about

56:06

just the kind of show that

56:09

that Scrubs was, and and um,

56:12

and then in terms of things to do differently,

56:15

well, that's just I mean Sarah, I don't think you could

56:17

have done everything differently. I wish that I could go back

56:19

and um and have a chin, because

56:23

this episode starts with the least flattering

56:26

view of my non existent

56:28

chin, and and in later episodes

56:31

I would I would look at the director and be like, bro, don't

56:33

shoot me like that. I mean, I'm doing I'm

56:35

doing the best I can with what I have, but that's

56:38

not the angle I want for myself. And

56:40

and Bill, I don't know how many listeners know

56:43

this, but Bill would like to add things that were

56:45

actual, real physical attributes and

56:47

write them into the show. So characters would

56:50

be named by their physical attributes. So like the

56:52

guy with the beard is beard for say, because you know,

56:55

and uh, and so so for me, my character,

56:57

you know, you had to say lines like short hair

57:00

gives me pig face, which is not untrue,

57:03

um and uh and

57:06

or there was one where I had my characters

57:08

like, yeah, chin hairs back because I have this mole

57:10

where three hairs grow out of it.

57:13

And so that was actually written into the show. By

57:15

the way, my son said to me a few years ago,

57:18

completely seriously. He's like, Mama, I have terrible

57:20

news. And I said what and

57:22

he goes, you're growing a beard. So

57:27

so there were definitely moments of the

57:29

show where he just had to go okay, all

57:32

in the name of comedy and so air

57:34

out my biggest insecurities. And

57:37

you know, in terms of how it worked too, like

57:39

Bill would come up and he would watch us, and this is not common

57:42

for every you know, creator of a show to

57:44

come up for every single rehearsal.

57:46

He would come up from you know, to the to

57:48

the set from the writer's room. In the writer's room was in another

57:50

wing of the hospital. He would tweak

57:53

a lot of stuff. He would say, I actually don't

57:55

love this blocking. I think how I had it in my head

57:57

was X Y or Z and um.

58:00

And he would he would he would tweak our performance and

58:02

our jokes to to the point where, like a lot of times I think

58:04

actors like don't like a line read.

58:06

And I just had so much respect for him. I'd

58:08

be like, yeah, just if you've got some way in your head,

58:10

just you know, tell us

58:13

we'll do it right. Yeah, all right,

58:15

Well, thank you for coming on, Alexis.

58:19

Are you gonna give her? Are you gonna give you the Oprah? Goodbye?

58:22

Send off? As well done. Let's

58:24

say goodbye to Alexis Torres

58:27

plan. You get

58:29

a car, You get a car, You get a car, Alexis,

58:31

we cannot give you a car. I know it's okay.

58:34

I can't go anywhere anyway, anywhere,

58:37

Yes, yes, going state. When this is all

58:39

said and done at the Glass Lounge, all right, thank

58:41

you so much, Alexis. Alexis,

58:44

you guys. One of my biggest

58:46

regrets in the history of Scrubs is

58:48

that I flinch right before those bricks

58:50

fall on me. And I remember Bill being

58:52

so disappointed in me because there were like four takes

58:55

of it and I flinched every time. But it's

58:57

pretty tricky to not flinch when

58:59

you know a bunch of I know that they're not real

59:01

bricks, but it still was noticeably

59:04

uncomfortable. I mean it

59:06

would be pretty hard not to, especially, I feel like all

59:08

that ship like, even if it was like a major

59:11

prop fall or something, once

59:13

you've done it once, I feel like our best chance

59:15

out of the gate is on your first take, because the second

59:17

you've done it, once you know what's going to happen, you know the feeling

59:19

of it. Maybe you like tweak something a little bit in

59:22

your shoulder and then it's kind of it's around. But this was

59:24

early on in the show and I and I and I was I

59:26

was really loving doing physical comedy, and I always

59:29

love physical comedy, referenced John Ridder.

59:31

I mean when I grew up on Threes Company, and I just

59:33

thought that John Ridder was the funniest

59:35

person I've ever seen, and I wanted

59:37

to be like him. And Bill

59:39

was giving me lots of love for my physical comedy.

59:42

And this was the first moment where he like called me in the editors

59:44

and he's like, dude, you flinched on every

59:46

take. And I was like, no, you

59:49

blew it. And I was like, I let Daddy

59:51

down, fucking blew it. The first

59:54

time I was called up by by Bill after

59:56

he left the editing room was you

59:58

guys will remember the ah we

1:00:01

had been so lucky to get nominated

1:00:03

for an Emmy and we were going and we were excited

1:00:05

and I got to borrow this fancy

1:00:08

dress and the stylist

1:00:10

I've never had a stylist before, and she

1:00:12

said, so you need to go get it and

1:00:18

I said, no, I'm not going to do that. I'm

1:00:20

not gonna go get a tan and she said, okay, go

1:00:22

get a spray tan, and so I said, okay.

1:00:24

So I think the Emmys were like on the Sunday

1:00:27

and so on the friday of work. It might

1:00:29

have been well before that. It might have been well

1:00:31

before that. It might have been like maybe five

1:00:33

days before or something like that, because

1:00:36

because we did the whole okay,

1:00:41

okay, So I get to uh, I get to the

1:00:43

tanning booth and it's like that fucking episode

1:00:45

of Friends where Ross becomes a nine instead

1:00:47

of for three because it keeps spraying stuff

1:00:50

at him. He doesn't turn around and sprays again

1:00:52

and spray to get So I get in there and you watch

1:00:54

this little video and you put this cream on your hands and you got

1:00:56

to spin around and do these weird poses. And I

1:00:58

had like negative five minut to get this done

1:01:00

before going to set. And I put a hairnet over

1:01:02

my face so that I wouldn't tan my face,

1:01:05

and then I ripped that off and then then keep spraying.

1:01:08

And so I get to said,

1:01:10

and I'm tanned, and then you

1:01:15

were you were full. Oh

1:01:17

no, not yet, not yet, because what happens with this

1:01:20

spray tan is it develops over time. And

1:01:22

so I was in the makeup chair and then my makeup

1:01:24

and we're doing these scenes and then as the day goes

1:01:27

on, I'm just getting like more and more

1:01:29

and more tanned, and instead

1:01:31

of actually tanned, it was just more and more and more orange.

1:01:34

And so Bill comes harder

1:01:37

than any special effect we've ever done on the show, Harder

1:01:39

than the Exacts head explode um

1:01:41

in the fantasy sequence is going to

1:01:44

be making you look less like a new bloompa.

1:01:48

You were like, we're trying to float filters in front of your

1:01:50

face because we can't color time

1:01:52

it and just jack out, like we can't just wind

1:01:55

the knob and take out some the color because we keep

1:01:57

doing it. You're in a scene with Donald and then McDonald white.

1:02:00

Dude, I'm gonna say something right now. I remember, I remember

1:02:03

when it happened. I remember you being on set, and I

1:02:05

remember saying to you, did you change something?

1:02:07

Did you do your hair is different or something like that. What's

1:02:09

so definitely I

1:02:12

remember, just like kids in a in a family,

1:02:14

the three of us, whenever one of us was in trouble,

1:02:17

I was always so happy when it wasn't me, and

1:02:19

you just be like you just be on set, just kind

1:02:21

of bouncing around like somebody's

1:02:23

in trouble and it's not me, and Sarah

1:02:26

is freaking orange. It

1:02:29

was so embarrassing. It's like, were

1:02:31

laughing the time I got the braces on the inside

1:02:33

of my mouth. We're laughing about that. When Donald

1:02:35

showed up with braces and he would like so Bill

1:02:39

and nobody couldn't even notice exact

1:02:44

same thing. Oh God, did

1:02:47

you just have to go get him taken out? Yeah? Right off? Yeah,

1:02:49

dude, Yeah, he made me get him taken out. I got

1:02:51

busil line in like season two. Everybody made so

1:02:53

much fun of me, but I had to. I would like, I had

1:02:55

to take him out like right before take but you're supposed

1:02:58

to wear likeween like.

1:03:00

It was just a disaster. I just remember Donald.

1:03:02

It was so funny watching him try to sell the bill

1:03:04

that the braces. Nobody was going to notice

1:03:06

those braces on the inside of his teeth. It's gonna be great.

1:03:08

Everybody's gonna love this. Nobody's even going

1:03:11

to notice. And I think it's gonna be great for my It's gonna

1:03:13

be great for my teeth. I

1:03:16

remember I went I went home that night after the

1:03:18

spray tan and I had to scrub every

1:03:20

ounce of my body. I just my

1:03:23

face and my body. I just was like

1:03:25

taking spolt to it. And then I did a movie in Hawaii

1:03:27

last year and the person wanted us to do a spray

1:03:29

tans So Lauren Lapkiss, who plays the lead

1:03:32

in the movie, and I was supposed to spray tans

1:03:34

I said, I I've actually had a couple of really

1:03:36

bad experiences with spray tans. I don't

1:03:38

recommend it. I think it's just reacts

1:03:41

with me the bad orangey

1:03:43

way. And they're like, no, no, no, we have like the best

1:03:45

people in Hawaiiy're gonna come. They're gonna do it. You're gonna love

1:03:47

it. So I come down the next

1:03:49

morning. The woman comes to rough tell him

1:03:51

like four sprays you down. I come down the hair and makeup

1:03:53

trailer and they are freaking out

1:03:55

there, like your legs are waring. And then Lauren

1:03:57

last hasn't seen any of this preamble

1:04:00

two balks, and she's like, who loves the sprint?

1:04:03

And they're like, Sarah,

1:04:05

quickly go back at Joe, tell take some salt, scrub,

1:04:08

scrub it all off, get it all off quick. I'm like, okay,

1:04:10

I'll be right back, So,

1:04:12

Sarah, I don't think sprays hands are for you. Do

1:04:15

you burn when you get into the sun? Uh,

1:04:19

she's very pale. Look at her like, how bail she

1:04:21

is? That was the other joke

1:04:24

on this movie. The reason why I would literally, in between

1:04:26

in between scenes, I would be, you know, completely

1:04:30

covered up to the point where we would go out at night. No,

1:04:34

everyone else would be like, chalk,

1:04:37

do you have your sun screened on? Like I just I mean,

1:04:41

let's talk about the scene. But the dramatic

1:04:43

scenes, Sarah, I think you're acting is really good. Here at

1:04:46

three there's this awesome scene where you

1:04:48

and Judy where Judy comes to get you and

1:04:50

you're at the soda machine. I think this is a really really good

1:04:52

acting on your part. Was this your

1:04:55

Was this the first big monologue for you

1:04:57

on the show? I thought you were going to say. Was this the

1:04:59

first time that you put in your iPod and listen to

1:05:01

Josh Raden? Oh? Is that what you did? You're

1:05:04

giving Josh Rayden? Or was it? What

1:05:06

was it? I will remember

1:05:10

well, don't don't take away her, don't take away

1:05:12

her, Josh Raiden, plug Donald, Josh

1:05:15

Raiden has gotten enough plugs on this show is that is that? Is

1:05:17

that who you used to get to make your eyes to

1:05:20

make yourself emotional in eyes tier up? Well,

1:05:22

I was still young, I mean at that point. Now you

1:05:24

know, as you grow older

1:05:27

you have many more experiences you're from. But I used

1:05:29

to use an iPod and I would play sad music

1:05:31

and kind of get into the mode. I don't not then

1:05:33

that scene was kind of it

1:05:36

was very early on. It was enough. I mean I remember just shooting

1:05:38

it and it was was it. Babies got back. I

1:05:42

mean, there's something about the lyrics.

1:05:44

You you can see if you look very closely, if you stop

1:05:47

freeze the frame, you can see my hips just kind

1:05:49

of booty is shaken a little bit.

1:05:53

Yeah, I know. Josh Raiden, let's give a plug man. He

1:05:56

obviously was a soundtrack to many things. I delivered

1:05:58

my children to Josh raid If

1:06:01

you're gonna, if you're gonna deliver your children and

1:06:03

that's coming up, we recommend you use

1:06:06

the musical stylings of Joshua

1:06:08

Raydon. Josh Rayden sang the song at

1:06:11

my wedding. Their first dance

1:06:13

was and he fucked

1:06:15

up the song tremendously, he did, But I love

1:06:17

him Oh my god, he didn't even remember the song. I

1:06:20

got the video, which got which which

1:06:22

song of it was? It was? It

1:06:25

was which song of him? No, it was moon

1:06:27

Pours through the Ceiling

1:06:30

tonight embraises us with

1:06:32

line and it was perfect

1:06:34

for the uh, for the moment, the

1:06:36

rest of my life, cake this night.

1:06:40

Whoa yeah, and

1:06:42

only the heartaches have given

1:06:45

me side they

1:06:47

bring me to you. Right, fucked

1:06:50

it up the he fucked up the whole

1:06:52

song. Dude, I wish I could could

1:06:54

say opposite of a plug. No, it was

1:06:57

due. He didn't listen. It's not every

1:06:59

day you get somebody like like him to

1:07:02

one perform at your wedding, also to do

1:07:04

it for free, so that he also performed

1:07:06

at Ellen's wedding. I'm

1:07:08

sure, I'm sure. I'm sure they paid him. I didn't

1:07:10

have to pay him. And for that alone,

1:07:13

And thank you, Josh

1:07:15

Rading. You are one

1:07:18

of my heroes. Kevilie Donald

1:07:20

didn't ask me to sing at his wedding. By the way,

1:07:22

has the worst voice in the world. America. Let me tell

1:07:24

you something, America and all other nations listening,

1:07:27

don't ever let Sarah sing. Windows break

1:07:29

photographs. These

1:07:32

are what this what's happening in my house? The windows going? I

1:07:36

was conspicuously absent in the musical

1:07:38

episode. And also remember when

1:07:41

when the when when Daryl

1:07:43

Hannah and Splash says her name, That's

1:07:45

what happens when Sarah say, I

1:07:48

guess we haven't covered that yet that you guys didn't

1:07:50

ask me to help you record the opening song?

1:07:53

Can you imagine? Do you like our song? I love

1:07:55

her song? Yeah, Charlie Pooth wrote the music

1:07:57

and Donald and I were for the Donald and I

1:07:59

were the lyricist. What We wrote the melody

1:08:01

too, and then sent it to him, Well, the melody is right

1:08:04

kind of credit for melody. Melody was us

1:08:07

Charlie Pouth's producer and and

1:08:09

and music writer, and you

1:08:11

and hired the lyricists. But we could

1:08:13

also we also need to give a little shout out

1:08:15

to sitcom shows from

1:08:18

back in a day, like the Jefferson Someone

1:08:21

said on Twitter, I thought it was it was right.

1:08:23

It said it's a mix between the Brady Bunch theme

1:08:25

and the Jefferson's theme. Yea, yeah, yeah,

1:08:27

yeah, yeah, yeah, that's exactly what it is.

1:08:30

I thought that was really perfect. Sorry,

1:08:33

do you find yourself singing our theme song? When

1:08:35

you're in your house and quarantine. It's

1:08:37

it's you know, I I've actually learned that. I I've

1:08:40

got learning the guitar of the ukulele

1:08:42

actually, and I'll send you guys a clip of me

1:08:44

singing, and you know, I'll leave it in your hands. Put

1:08:47

on my show. My girlfriend caught me on

1:08:49

the treadmill listening to our theme song and laughed

1:08:52

at me, not with me, at me. You're

1:08:56

proud of it. You're proud of it. Things I noticed

1:08:58

about the show, about this show ahead,

1:09:00

I had no idea that I bopped that hard

1:09:02

in the hallway. And when I say bob,

1:09:05

I mean like I had the straight up. My

1:09:07

walk is legendary.

1:09:10

Strut. Is it like a stress? It's like a but

1:09:13

it's like so over the top, dude,

1:09:15

it's so over the top. It's like George Jefferson

1:09:17

when he was This is exactly like George Jefferson.

1:09:21

It's like so heavy. It's like, yo, dude,

1:09:24

why are you going so hard with that? And

1:09:26

your inspiration? Do you remember who your inspiration

1:09:29

was? It's always Sherman Hemsley. Sherman Hemsley

1:09:31

always I wanted to say something

1:09:33

about the scene in nineteen

1:09:36

O seven, There's the I had this dramatic

1:09:38

scene with Katherine Juston and it

1:09:40

was the first time I ever had the balls to go to Bill

1:09:43

because I thought I did a good job. And then he showed

1:09:45

me an edit of it and he had

1:09:47

taken out some of my dramatic pauses. And

1:09:51

it was one of the first times in

1:09:53

my acting career where I was like, I was like, I gotta go talk

1:09:55

to him, because he's making me look like a bad actor. He's

1:09:58

he's taking out the pauses like you because you

1:10:00

know, the show had to be cut down to twenty two minutes

1:10:02

or something, and I remember Bill going like, dude, there's

1:10:04

no time. It's twenty two minutes. There's no time for pauses. There's

1:10:07

no time for dramatic pauses, and

1:10:09

um. And I think in the end he put he put

1:10:11

a little bit back, but it was like it was when she

1:10:14

goes, are you okay? And then I go, I'm

1:10:16

scared and and and then when

1:10:18

I saw it edited together for the first time, I was like, are

1:10:20

you okay? I'm scared? And I was like, oh, that makes

1:10:22

me look really bad. And this is a thing that actors,

1:10:24

I'm sure I know as

1:10:27

a director feel all the time sometimes when you look

1:10:29

and go, why did you cut me like that? Like on

1:10:31

the day, I thought I was doing a much better job. But if

1:10:33

you take out that pause and cut to

1:10:35

me like like that, I don't look

1:10:38

as good as I want to be. You know, I'm sure you guys

1:10:40

had that feeling throughout the show sometimes. Well yeah,

1:10:42

you know, you we we would tell jokes sometimes

1:10:44

and jokes wouldn't make the show, and you know,

1:10:47

we'd have moments where we thought, you

1:10:50

know, we were crushing it and then only

1:10:52

to see you know, the editors

1:10:55

and Bill decided to use the reaction shot

1:10:57

instead of your actual you know, instead

1:10:59

of your before right, or the joke's

1:11:01

just completely gone right. I love

1:11:04

that. I love that scene that you're talking about, Zack. It

1:11:06

was one of my favorite ones in the in the episode when

1:11:08

you know, she tells you to go and

1:11:10

live your life and you're like, you know, uh huh,

1:11:12

I'm just starting on a few things and you go up to the thing

1:11:15

and you're kind of pretending it I don't want to go, and

1:11:17

and then it's always you know, my father, who

1:11:19

passed away recently, always

1:11:22

always would reference this moment in scrubs

1:11:24

that he thought it was so incredibly moving, the idea

1:11:26

of a of an older woman comforting

1:11:29

a young doctor about death.

1:11:32

And and he said, I just he you know, he

1:11:34

was, He's like, I've never seen anything like that

1:11:36

before. And and and when

1:11:38

I'm just watching it this time, I just remember how

1:11:41

much he would always reference that because it was so

1:11:43

so beautiful, that the sentiment that the j

1:11:46

D doesn't know how to deal with death yet, but here's

1:11:48

this older woman who's ready to go and she's the one

1:11:50

comforting him about it. I just thought that was beautifully

1:11:52

written somehow managed to also be funny

1:11:55

in parts. That was what I couldn't believe, Like when she's just

1:11:57

like everybody dies, No they don't, right,

1:11:59

No, they don't, right the Schifel

1:12:01

to the Miifel Tower, um the Miiful

1:12:03

Tower. That

1:12:07

that being said, that whole, the whole list

1:12:09

thing, especially with the way things are right

1:12:11

now, that whole list thing got

1:12:13

me to thinking, you know what I mean, I don't have any regrets

1:12:16

in my life or anything like that, but there

1:12:18

are certain things that I still want

1:12:21

to do, you know what I mean. And

1:12:23

uh, you know, we're in

1:12:25

quarantine and it doesn't seem like, you

1:12:28

know, it doesn't feel like we're gonna get out of this anytime

1:12:30

soon, you know what I mean. Not to sound more bid

1:12:32

or dark or anything like that, but when

1:12:35

j D brings up the list and she's like,

1:12:37

I've done all of those things already, it

1:12:40

really made me think, like, well, you know, when

1:12:43

this is over, I'm gonna make sure that

1:12:45

I get out and I live a lot more than I did

1:12:47

before, you know what I mean. And that's interesting.

1:12:50

I mean, this quarantine thing, I

1:12:53

agree. I think it gives you perspective and and and

1:12:55

I've just been feeling focusing on gratitude

1:12:58

a lot because I just think that, like when

1:13:00

all this is so insane, and

1:13:03

it makes you focus on how lucky we are

1:13:05

and what we want to appreciate in life.

1:13:07

You know, they just the simple things like being able

1:13:10

to go to a restaurant with friends and laugh

1:13:12

and have a drink. And I don't

1:13:14

know, it's interesting you say that, So have you

1:13:16

made a list? Don't are you making lists of things you want to I'm

1:13:19

gonna start a list. I know. A lot of it has to do

1:13:21

with my kids and making sure that they get to experience

1:13:23

a lot of the things that I didn't experience when I was

1:13:26

a kid, when I was young, you know what I mean. Uh,

1:13:28

I try to do that now, but I feel

1:13:31

like maybe I need to go a little bit overboard,

1:13:33

and then you know, I have my wife

1:13:36

tell me we need to dial it back a little bit. We're

1:13:38

going too far, you know what I mean. Like,

1:13:41

Uh, there're certain things that my kids have never

1:13:44

done that and that's

1:13:46

because I don't do it, you know what I mean, And I don't want

1:13:48

to. I don't want to do that to them. I

1:13:50

want them to have that experience in that adventure.

1:13:53

I feel like I feel like it's it's also

1:13:57

because we don't know when this is over. We don't know how

1:13:59

long we're gonna be doing for, and it doesn't seem

1:14:01

to be short. Obviously. It sounds like tend

1:14:04

a vaccine. Who knows, Who knows how long this chunk

1:14:06

of our lives is and what it looks like and whether it opens

1:14:08

back up. I feel like it's impossible.

1:14:11

It is. It is and has trite as It's like trying

1:14:13

to be in the moment and trying to figure out what like

1:14:15

the rare times with them that I have now that are

1:14:18

so hard to get in the

1:14:21

like in the every day you think about how much time you

1:14:23

spend in the car driving them to activities,

1:14:25

doing whatever, and when work takes over and that becomes

1:14:28

though all consuming, and I feel like

1:14:30

as much of it is that that we can squeeze

1:14:32

out just here, like just

1:14:35

sitting with them. Like I was reading something the other day

1:14:37

saying, you know, people are worried about their kids getting behind

1:14:39

an education. What if they actually came out ahead? And

1:14:41

I thought that was such a cool way to look at it, Like, kids,

1:14:44

this is going to form who they are and who they

1:14:46

become. And what if they what if they actually start to appreciate

1:14:49

the small things that we're starting to appreciate right now

1:14:51

instead of just

1:14:54

the grind of everyday life. And what if they actually learned

1:14:56

to do meaningful chores at home and learn

1:14:58

the value

1:15:01

in that and learn how to you know, actually

1:15:03

be. You know, the only thing

1:15:05

I worry about with all of that is their

1:15:08

social skills when this is all said and done,

1:15:10

you know what I mean, That's the only thing

1:15:12

I worry about. But yeah, you know,

1:15:14

we got this kid reading, you know, she's

1:15:16

on site words, and we're trying to get her to

1:15:19

read and stuff like that, and we're working with matth and

1:15:21

all of that stuff. But at the

1:15:23

end of the day, it's like, you know, there's something

1:15:25

special about being around other

1:15:27

children their age to interact

1:15:30

with, you know what I mean. It's so true. I know

1:15:32

my heartbreaks for only kids. Who are

1:15:34

you know, having to go through this right now with no no

1:15:37

kids to play with. It's really hard. The show

1:15:39

ends with Hallelujah by John

1:15:42

Klee, which has been covered by lots of folks.

1:15:44

Um. I thought this was a particularly beautiful

1:15:47

rendition and uh again, I think

1:15:49

it was the first real time I noticed

1:15:52

the show ending with a with a sweet, somber,

1:15:55

uplifting song in a beautiful way,

1:15:57

cutting to the montage and I got road

1:16:00

Town. I got goose bumps when

1:16:03

we when we all three whip our heads around, Um,

1:16:06

yeah, revealing that we've all it's not one

1:16:08

in three in this case, the odds of have fallen,

1:16:10

so we've lost three of three. I

1:16:13

got goose bumps up and down my arms at that moment. I thought

1:16:15

that was really beautifully done. Absolutely

1:16:18

so shocking when that happens, right like, as a viewer,

1:16:20

I think you're not expecting that you're kind of waiting for that statistic

1:16:23

that they set up at the beginning, and

1:16:25

then we end the show and this is and this

1:16:27

is what I was saying a few episodes

1:16:29

before, Sarah, you weren't here for this, but it's

1:16:32

really important for doctors to be able to pick

1:16:34

themselves back up after something

1:16:36

like this happens. And you know,

1:16:39

it's also very important that this happens

1:16:41

to these young doctors at

1:16:43

an early time, so they do know how to

1:16:45

set up boundaries and do know how to set

1:16:47

up walls to help them be professional.

1:16:51

It's tragic that it has to be death that does it,

1:16:53

but yeah, you know, to lose someone

1:16:55

you care about and then show up the next day at

1:16:58

that job, it's it's very difficult. I

1:17:00

can't I can't imagine it. I find

1:17:02

it difficult to watch, and it's very difficult to experience,

1:17:05

I would imagine. And that was that, and that piece

1:17:07

of it so cool that the show kind of owes that right

1:17:09

after, with you know, Churk going back and introducing

1:17:11

himself to the patient, Jad taking the time

1:17:14

to go beyond the grass, Elliott kind of figuring out how to take

1:17:16

charge, and that was kind of cool

1:17:18

too, Johnny, these conversation with

1:17:21

Elliott when he says you made the right call,

1:17:23

you did, and she says, I

1:17:25

know, and I don't. I didn't remember

1:17:27

that. And when I saw that, you know, just sort

1:17:30

of having her take that confident position.

1:17:32

Yeah, that was really powerful. I was really powerful.

1:17:34

I thought, Okay, um listen,

1:17:36

guys, we did it. We did I'm so glad Sarah

1:17:39

we had you because we wanted to have you on this one.

1:17:41

Because we all keep saying, this was a very special

1:17:43

episode for all of us, and thank

1:17:46

you for for coming on. And I

1:17:48

hope you know we're having fun doing this. I hope

1:17:50

that Donald and I both hope that you'll come as as

1:17:52

as many times as you're willing to and and

1:17:55

rewatch the show with us. I loved it. It was so

1:17:57

fun, so fun to do. Um, so is

1:17:59

that a yes? Was that a yes? That was a very non

1:18:01

chemical, very odd that is that is? I'm in you?

1:18:04

Just you can know where I am. Guys not doing anything?

1:18:06

How do you say good how do you say goodbye? And Canadians?

1:18:08

Sh I think it's goodbye bye?

1:18:12

Wait? Is it something like that's

1:18:15

French? That's well, you know, there's a lot of them speak

1:18:17

friendship that Donald. That's

1:18:20

some Bilingo country here, guys, is it? Yes?

1:18:23

On that note, Donald, if you'll lead us in song?

1:18:26

Uh? Why Donald? Why I can't I lead us

1:18:28

in song? Sorry? You can lead us in song? Um

1:18:31

we will now, Donald Connaisson, please one

1:18:34

two. I prefer it when you count down like

1:18:37

Debbie. Okay, you got big

1:18:39

dreams, you want you take

1:18:41

the monologue. This time of fame costs,

1:18:44

and right here's where you start paying. Stories

1:18:52

about show we made nurses,

1:19:00

the stories netball

1:19:02

should go. So

1:19:04

gather around you here, I'll gather

1:19:07

around you here. I'll just excretch for you,

1:19:09

watch your wis and then d M

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