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This episode is brought to you by Airbnb. Here

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we go. Hey, Pashy.

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Hey, Sufi. How are you? I'm

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great. How are you? You know, we're

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Boston Celtics fans. We are? I

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wouldn't say we're the most rabid Boston Celtics

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fans in the world. We're not dyed in

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the wool. Celtics fans. But I

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mean, I think you could say Boston

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Red Sox, Pittsburgh Steelers, that's like ride

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or die forever. But

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they're like a top tier team for me. It's

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a very happy day. Yeah, I

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think I've got a lot of basketball

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loving friends. And to

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a man, they all hate the

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Celtics. I'm

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sort of like, oh, yeah, I get it. I get it. Oh,

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yeah. But at the same time, very happy. Yeah,

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it's nice. It was also a

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very stress free game

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five. It's nice to just have it go your

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way. Some other good

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thing, I feel like, that happened in

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our world. Mom

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sent me one of

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her letters, a classic mom letter,

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which just has some newspaper clippings.

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Yep. She compiles a

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sort of month, two

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months worth of notable clippings.

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Sometimes it's just one or two. That's

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what this one was. This is a

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story about the party's over for Chuck

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E. Cheese's robot band. She

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writes on it, oh, no. Yep,

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oh, no, with two exclamation points. Then

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she sends a follow up. After uproar,

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Chuck E. Cheese says it will keep

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more animatronic bands and sends this with

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good news. So

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in this day where we can just

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email people links or

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text them even, Mom

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cut out two newspaper clippings

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weeks apart then

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old fashioned US mailed them to you.

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Yeah. Did

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she do anything that would assure? you read

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it in the right order with the O&O

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first? No, I actually read them in the

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wrong order, and I

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was so happy that

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I saw the O&O afterwards. It made me...

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Because the good news made me laugh so

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hard. And then when I saw the O&O

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and that there was a previous story... New

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York Times, by the way, was running

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this story. That the

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previous story was in color to

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really get the full experience

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of the band. Yeah,

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so anyhow, good news in

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all honesty, that those animatronic bands are

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sticking around. Munch's

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Make-Believe band. Our

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friend Bobby Cannavale, who's on

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the show today. I

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don't know if this happened, but... And again,

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I'm not trying to put this into your head

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because this would not work as a song anyway,

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but you know what I think every time I

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heard his name? What's that? Bobby

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Cannavale. Oh yeah. Yeah,

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so there was a theme

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park in Holland. Still

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is. Still is. Yeah. Called

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Efteling. And you know what? This

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is actually... If you're ever in

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Holland with your family, it is

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for my money the greatest amusement park I've

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ever been to. It's fantastic.

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And I think it's a great amusement park for

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kids of young ages because the theme is sort

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of fairies.

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Is that a good way to describe it?

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Yeah, it's gnomes, dwarves, fairies. It's fairy tales.

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It's fairy tales. It's fairy tales, yes. There's

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also there's some really

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good roller coasters and whatnot, but

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it's not one of these six flags you're going to

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throw up everywhere. Yeah, but it does, according

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to our dear friend Andrew Moscos, who

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lives over there, apparently they win like

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best amusement park in Europe all

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the time and it drives Disneyland

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Paris crazy because Disneyland Paris

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has spent so much money and this

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one just has like charm and... Yeah.

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They don't have Imagineers, but whoever's imagining

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the rides over there has done a

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bang-up job for several years. I

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always thought Efteling was just a Dutch word

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meaning like Elf World. Uh-huh.

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But it's not. I think it's just like the

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name of the family farm that was maybe there

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first or something. Oh, yeah. I

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couldn't answer you that. But Bobby

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Conneval, I think what you're getting to

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is there's a sort

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of teacup sort of ride. Yeah.

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Yeah. It was like, yeah, sort of a

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tilt-a-whirly type thing. And

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it used to be called, they changed

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it. Yeah, because it was Mr. Conneval,

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a cannibal. Yes. And

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it was problematic. It

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was, yeah. The depiction of the

4:46

cannibal was not cool. Yeah. And

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it was one of those things,

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you know, sometimes you have things

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where you see it, it's offensive, and you go,

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it was a different time. The

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first time we went was 1997, and pretty

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collectively, every American who walked in was like,

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oh, this is bad. Yeah. And

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it was not, they didn't change in like 1998, it went

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a few more years. But I was happy to see, I

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recently read, you know, there was an article about how they

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finally changed it. There was a ride that was

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created in the time that we were

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there called the Panda Drum,

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the Panda Dream. And

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the Panda at some point gave

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the I Have a Dream speech. Yes.

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I believe the Martin Luther

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King Jr. sort of family was like,

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hey, hey, hey, you just

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can't just co-opt this. I

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mean, it was a, I feel like the

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whole thrust of the ride, and it still exists, is

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like the Panda has a dream of a cleaner world.

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Environment. Environment. Yeah.

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And it was sort of like, hey, you can't

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just like take this without, because

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it was verbatim. It was a verbatim

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lift. Yeah. But was it in English,

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or was it in English? I forget if that panda

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said, ich

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haben drom. Right. Yeah.

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That's a good question. Yeah. But

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he doesn't say it anymore. No, he doesn't. Yeah. So

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the good news is it was already a

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great theme park and now

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they've combed out a lot of incidental

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racism. Yeah. So check

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it out. Check it out. Really

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fun, really fun. But anyway, I did

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think Bobby Conoval every time. Yeah. Not

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the way I feel like I'm going

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on this one. No, of course. Yeah.

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Of course not. Speaking of songs, we've received

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some criticism. Sam

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saw this criticism and you saw this

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criticism. But I believe

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it was only one source, correct? Yeah, there's

6:44

only one source. I can only find like

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one review at a time for our podcast

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and I'll talk to Sam offline about how

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you see more. But there's always like one

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that's featured. And the one that

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was featured for like a week said,

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stop introducing the song, the

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Jeff Tweedy song. Yeah. Not

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your song. Right. Yeah. We

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don't introduce my song. Right. And we

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had a conversation about it too. Yeah. Whether

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or not we'd introduce it. And I should

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know Posh said, nah. Nah. I

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just want to roll it out. People could figure out

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what it is. And the person that

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said, stop introducing the song, signed

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it, Jeff Tweedy. Yeah.

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So his take was that maybe Jeff tweeted and like

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that I was like Posh and it's sorry. Or maybe

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it was Jeff Tweedy. Maybe Jeff Tweedy is like, hey,

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just let this happen. We don't know. He

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seems like the kind of non-confrontational dude who

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would want to like do it in a comment

7:43

section as opposed to like texting directly. So

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you know what? I'm going to try this out for a bit

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and I'm not going to introduce the song

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anymore. And then if

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you're up in arms about that, you know, find

7:57

your way to the comment section where Josh sees

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one a week. And

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hopefully, hopefully

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you'll get upvoted into the most

8:05

important comment. Yeah. I

8:08

was also gonna say, I did now

8:11

get your wedding invitation. Oh, good. And

8:14

there was a lot of, you know, because I,

8:16

you were a little upset that I had not

8:18

RSVP'd. Yeah. But I had

8:20

not received it. Okay. And

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as I told you yesterday, once I got it,

8:24

I have forwarded it to

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my lawyers. Because I'm not just

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gonna click yes. I know too well

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to do that. Yeah. Well,

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in our tally, you are still

8:37

a not responded. How's your

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response going? Most people, I'm assuming people are

8:42

smashing the yes button pretty hard. Yeah, we've

8:44

got some people who are

8:46

coupled up and

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have some kids and only one of them

8:51

might be able to make it because of

8:54

dealing with kids. We're

8:56

also in that weird little place where

9:00

we obviously want everyone to be able to make it,

9:02

but in a way we're rooting for some people to

9:04

not be able to make it because we've got more

9:06

people that we love and that we would like to

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invite and that we would love to have there. And

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there's something, there's

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something, euphoric's

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the wrong word, but there's something that feels

9:20

so good about having sent a

9:23

wedding invite and then people saying we can't make

9:25

it. And you're like- Right, because you get full

9:27

credit for the invite. They know how much you love them. And

9:29

yet they've also maybe cracked the door open for

9:32

some other people you love. We

9:35

on our 10th anniversary,

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Alexi and I did a

9:41

game of who looking back, like

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who would we want, if we got married today,

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how many new faces? And

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then how many people would drop off? That's

9:54

an interesting game to play. I would say the core

9:56

is about the same because we had

9:58

so many people from like early- in our life. Yeah.

10:02

But it's good to know

10:04

that there's gonna be some people 10 years from now that

10:06

you'll be like, oh, I should have invited them and some

10:08

others where you're like, yeah. Yeah, I feel pretty good about

10:10

who's coming to this wedding. I

10:15

feel like they're gonna, we're gonna keep them around. All

10:18

right, good, good, good. Yeah. Well, yeah.

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You know, you're not a couple of like, you

10:22

know, starstruck kids here. Yeah, no.

10:25

You guys, you guys

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have lived. You know

10:30

what a real friend is. Yeah.

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Well, I don't know what's gonna

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happen next, but right after it, we'll have our show.

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Enjoy this interview with Bobby Cannavale.

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Family chips with

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my brother's. Family

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chips with my

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brother's. Here

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we go. Good looking. Ah,

11:02

yeah. Josh,

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I haven't met you. I haven't ever met you. No,

11:08

no, I don't believe so. Look how different

11:10

you guys look. You sound exactly alike and

11:12

you look so different. You must immediately feel

11:14

kinship with Josh based on the fact that

11:16

your glasses look like they're from the same

11:18

place. Right,

11:21

right, the cool place in town. Bobby,

11:23

the first thing you do was take

11:25

out of flyswatter. Okay,

11:27

I've got a lot to tell you. It's

11:30

like, this is all dealing with anxiety. I

11:32

hate that you can see a little of my bed. And

11:37

I've got like, I'm terrible

11:40

on the computer, you guys. I'm bad, I'm so

11:42

bad. Let me turn this up so I can hear

11:44

you. And

11:47

it's that time of the year. There's

11:50

just bugs everywhere. And

11:53

I'm trying not to be such a bitch about

11:57

like bugs in the house. Like it's

11:59

fine, that's like. It's life, it's spring, right?

12:01

And, you know, I have the AC, but,

12:04

you know, I want fresh air to come through and I

12:06

just have to deal with the bugs, but I'm obsessed with

12:08

getting them, with the fly's

12:11

water. Are you, my

12:13

wife is pinning it on the boys a lot for

12:15

just sort of leaving things open. Do

12:18

you feel like your boys are maybe the

12:20

gateway to the bugs? Leaving the door open?

12:22

Yeah. I know, but that's my point is

12:24

like, it's impossible to keep

12:26

them out unless you wanna live like hermetically

12:28

sealed. And I no longer live in an

12:30

apartment. I lived in an apartment for 45

12:32

years of my life or

12:34

whatever, 47 years. And I have like

12:37

a little house in Brooklyn and I

12:39

like having the doors open. So it's me. There you

12:41

go. But I'm like, but I'm trying

12:43

to accept it

12:45

as normal, right? If you lived on a farm,

12:48

you'd open, you know, you'd have bugs coming through

12:50

the house, right? Flying through. I like

12:52

that you being cool with bugs is

12:54

weirdly a status symbol now. Like, hey,

12:56

I live in a house. We're cool

12:58

with bugs. I mean,

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I don't know how cool with bugs he is.

13:02

He's waving a splice water around. Well, I'd

13:06

rather have, I guess what I mean is

13:08

the fresh air coming through. And I can't

13:10

have everything screened because like there's like a

13:12

metal door on the front with like, you

13:14

know, metal work and they could come through

13:16

there and I can't drive myself crazy. So

13:18

I walk around with a fly swatter. I

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have, I have every. Do you,

13:23

have you seen these fly swatters that are like

13:26

tennis rackets that are electrified? Yeah, I don't like

13:28

that. I like the kids, the kids, because it's

13:30

like a game with the boys, you know, boys

13:32

are, they don't need a lot. They're not that

13:35

smart, right? So like just put something in their

13:37

hand and just hit things. So I

13:39

indulge that part of them. I

13:42

spent a whole, I want

13:44

to say maybe 90 minutes on

13:46

Sunday watching my two boys just

13:48

step on ants. And

13:50

I know Josh, probably this is

13:52

very hard for you to hear,

13:54

Josh. Because I'm a vegan? Yeah, you're

13:56

a vegan. So I assume you a vegan. Yeah,

13:59

I feel like. You'd be mad at a Buddhist. You'd be mad at

14:01

a Buddhist. Yeah. I try to have,

14:03

oh, I should make a distinction. The ones that crawl,

14:06

I don't kill. We don't kill those. My

14:08

littlest guy who's six, Rafa,

14:11

he's obsessed with bugs. And he's one of those people

14:13

that he'll be walking and he'll go

14:15

and he'll stop and go back and go, what? And

14:18

he'll go praying mantis. And then it'll be

14:20

a praying mantis, like an odd bug that

14:22

he just was, was it

14:24

preternaturally? Like he knows what they are

14:26

without having even, I don't remember

14:28

him in the book looking at

14:30

it. And he runs into all these

14:33

rare bugs all the time. So we're very careful

14:35

about keeping them and

14:37

then bringing them outside to the yard or

14:39

whatever, except for the flying ones. Seth's

14:41

kids take a different approach. Yeah, they're just

14:43

like, it's us or the bugs. That's

14:45

what I taught them. They step, they step, yeah. When

14:48

Rafa's teachers give you the conference, are

14:50

they like, he's testing in the top

14:52

98th percentile of bugs? Yeah,

14:55

well, they are, they do say that he's the,

14:59

yeah, that he is prone to, he's the one

15:01

that gets upset if like, if

15:03

they, if he does see, they go

15:05

up on the roof, right? And there

15:07

was a situation where the kids were

15:09

all killing bugs. And that was like

15:11

a conversation he wanted to have with

15:13

them, with the teacher. And

15:15

could they come up with some kind of agreement if they didn't

15:17

have to do that? Could we not do

15:19

that? And that was kind of a little, you know.

15:23

I hope that wasn't considered a field trip. We're

15:25

gonna bring you all up to the roof and

15:27

just go on a bug killing spree. No, it's

15:29

that New York thing, right? Like that's where they

15:31

go the roof. Yeah. The roof of the

15:33

old building. I got a kid that goes to a roof. So,

15:38

Bobby, I feel like you and I had kids

15:40

at the same age, which

15:42

I like, but you had a first run at it.

15:44

Yeah, right, my son's 29, Jake. Yeah,

15:46

so you were 25 when Jake was born?

15:48

Yeah, I was born two days before my

15:51

25th birthday, yeah. I can't, I mean,

15:53

obviously you, not just age, but you're obviously at

15:55

a very different place in your life, career-wise,

15:58

you must feel more settled. Does

16:00

it feel like just the most massively different

16:02

experience being a parent the second time? Well,

16:05

in so many ways, yes. I mean,

16:08

to all your points, like,

16:10

I'm older, I'm not,

16:13

you know, I'm not, like, hustling to... Like,

16:16

I worked in a restaurant when Jake was born. And

16:18

I don't work in a restaurant anymore, so I

16:20

don't have... But I have other concerns, like, you

16:23

know, my cartilage. Like, I don't have that much

16:25

of it anymore. And, like, it hurts when Rafa

16:28

throws himself at my neck. So

16:30

I'm not as... I don't have as

16:32

much energy, although I do have a lot of

16:34

energy. It's just my personality. Things,

16:37

you know, things like I have to get checked

16:39

out more physically because my guys are very physical

16:42

with me. And

16:45

thankfully, I'm also, like, in a

16:48

perfect partnership with somebody who's just

16:50

young enough. You know,

16:52

just that much younger than me. Like, nine

16:54

years, who has a little bit more of

16:56

the... Picks up the... You

16:58

know, we pick up the slack for each other.

17:00

So that's important. I forgot that we have that

17:03

in common as well. Yeah, I have a far

17:05

more energetic partner, which is helpful. Yeah. So... By

17:07

the way, I like that you... I feel like

17:09

you kind of asked for it by naming your

17:11

kids Raka and Rafa. Like, you did name them

17:13

after, like, henchmen. Like, the tough

17:16

guys. You know, we

17:18

thought Raka just sounded cool. And

17:22

it was a good name, and we liked

17:24

the name Raka. And then Rafa was hard,

17:27

you know, because we

17:29

didn't know. And I had these, like,

17:31

crazy ideas, like, Valentino. And she's like,

17:33

well, we're not calling him Valentino. You

17:36

know, like, no, but everybody will call him Val. And

17:38

she's like, no, they won't. They'll call him

17:40

Valentino, and he'll hate you. So we didn't

17:42

do that. And then we

17:45

decided on Rafa because it kind of was

17:47

around the time that we went to the

17:49

Australian Open and saw Rafa

17:51

play. So we saw him play a couple times.

17:53

We were big fans. That's a cool name. Rafaella.

17:56

And then I had cold feet, like, very

17:58

close to the delivery. I

18:00

suddenly got worried. I remembered my

18:02

friend Big Ralphie from when I was a

18:04

kid. And then I was like, I

18:07

don't want anybody calling him Ralph. Oh,

18:09

I see. There was fear of Ralph. I don't want to

18:11

have a Ralph, a Ralphie. He's a Rafa. So

18:14

I think it's sticking. I

18:16

feel like it's very, it fits in the oeuvre

18:18

of a Bobby Cannavale that you would have

18:20

a Big Ralphie growing up. Well,

18:24

you know what? I hadn't really thought of it that

18:26

way. In fact, I hadn't thought about Big Ralphie from

18:28

Amelia, his sister, until right this second. Yeah.

18:32

Hey, we're going to take a quick break and hear from some

18:35

of our sponsors. Family Trips is

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supported by Airbnb. Hey, Poshy. Yeah,

18:39

Sufi. You know we have an annual trip. Yeah,

18:42

we sure do. We get a couple regular trips, but

18:44

which trip are you talking about? I'm talking about the

18:46

fact that you and I and 10 of

18:48

our closest college friends get together every

18:51

September for our fantasy football draft. Such

18:53

a trip. Very little of the trip

18:55

is about a fantasy football draft. Yeah,

18:57

I always feel a little nerdy saying

18:59

that we're going on a fantasy football

19:01

draft, but we're going to hang out

19:03

with our buddies. Yeah, that's why I

19:05

say it's a fantasy friendship draft. Would that

19:08

make it less nerdy, or is that maybe

19:10

worse? No, I think it's charming. It's sweet.

19:12

So this year for our fantasy friendship draft,

19:15

we have a fantasy location booked.

19:18

And it's all thanks to Airbnb. We

19:20

found a place that has enough

19:22

space for all of us and

19:24

enough bedrooms for all of us, and

19:27

has a lot of outdoor activities. A fire

19:29

pit. There's a fire pit,

19:31

Pachi. There's a fire pit. I want

19:33

to say there's a volleyball court. Yeah.

19:36

There's a pickleball court. There's

19:38

a lot. It's driving distance to a

19:41

hospital that a bunch of 50-year-old guys are going

19:43

to have to go to when we blow our

19:45

ACLs. Yeah. But in general, it is

19:48

so nice that it has all the things

19:50

that we could not get with our group

19:52

at a hotel. Oh, absolutely not. Because what

19:55

you want is you want to be able

19:57

to hang out together for as long as

19:59

you can. And then if it's time to go

20:01

to bed, you go to bed, but everyone else is

20:03

sort of in the same place. And

20:05

one thing that we're sort of focused on on

20:08

trips like this is no new friends. No

20:11

new friends. We don't want to meet them. We don't want to make

20:13

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20:59

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21:04

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21:07

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like when you read to your kids. Yeah, I

22:54

just want to get to bed. What? What? Here

23:00

we go. So

23:02

you, and this is Union City, New

23:04

Jersey. That's where you've considered where you

23:06

grew up. Yeah, Union City, New Jersey, until

23:09

I was about to go into my freshman year

23:12

of high school and my mom moved us to

23:14

Florida, South Florida. But I would

23:16

say that my childhood

23:18

was spent in Union City, New

23:20

Jersey, yeah. And that's because

23:23

your mom remarried? Was

23:25

that what the press paid to move? Yes,

23:27

mom remarried and we had to move to

23:29

Miami, but also, you know, my mom said,

23:31

you know, Cubans. So my grandmother and my

23:33

aunt and everybody who lived in our building

23:35

in Union City had done the move, made

23:37

the move to Miami around 1980, when

23:40

this whole other wave of immigrants came over

23:42

from Cuba, like a lot of families

23:44

reconnected. And there was a big wave of

23:46

Cubans from Union City to Miami. Miami's always

23:49

been predominantly Cuban for many years, but they

23:51

got another huge wave in around 1980, 81,

23:55

when that Mario boat lift came,

23:57

including much of my family. We

24:00

waited another few years and then went down and

24:03

lived north of Miami, actually. So

24:05

there was, so basically after that,

24:08

like sort of infusion of

24:11

Cubans, basically people in Union City were like, it's

24:13

too good to pass up now. Like basically all

24:15

our families are down there. I think so, yeah.

24:17

And you know, the weather thing was always a

24:20

pull. I mean, the thing about coming up to Union

24:23

City and New Jersey, it's interesting.

24:25

There's many different reasons, but Union City

24:27

did become, you know, it

24:29

was a German, you know, it was always

24:31

an immigrant neighborhood. It's right across the river.

24:34

Like it's right across the Lincoln Tunnel, above

24:36

the Lincoln Tunnel. There's a lot of garment

24:38

factories there. So it was like an embroidery

24:41

place, factory workers. It needed factory workers.

24:43

So immigrants, you know, it was a

24:45

big immigrant population. Germans, then Italians, then

24:47

Cubans. And the Cubans in many

24:50

cases, my mother

24:52

came over on these Peter Pan flights where they

24:54

would put these kids. They like, they had a

24:56

window open where they put, the

24:59

new Cuban government, Fidel Castro and them,

25:02

made an agreement, made it with the

25:05

Catholic diocese of New York in America,

25:07

to take anybody who wanted to send

25:10

their kids. If you want out of here so bad, go

25:12

ahead. The kids gotta go first.

25:14

And they sent these kids on these planes and sent them over

25:17

to the archdiocese here. Basically,

25:20

there were wards of the church until

25:23

their family came to get them in

25:26

most cases. And my mom was on that. And

25:28

that was in New York City. And

25:31

from New York City, the Cubans were like, they

25:33

either stayed, but not a lot of them did.

25:35

A lot of them went across the river because

25:37

it was like New York City was a little

25:39

much, you know, so they went over there. How

25:42

much time passed from when your mom

25:44

came on a Peter Pan flight, which is a

25:46

hilarious thing to call something that scary, until

25:49

her parents came? It

25:52

was a few years. It was- Really? Oh yeah,

25:54

yeah, yeah. But her brothers came right away. Her

25:56

brothers came and her aunt. Her aunt worked so

25:59

cool. I like her. My mother's aunt, Aunt

26:01

Angela, she always lived near

26:04

us. She was one

26:06

of those women, never married, never kids, her

26:08

whole life, worked

26:10

as a private secretary

26:13

for Batista. And

26:15

when that all went down, she got

26:17

out through Spain's or the connections that

26:19

she had and she brought my

26:21

mother's brothers out. She couldn't get her

26:23

sister and my

26:26

maternal grandfather out right away. So

26:29

she was raised by my uncles and they

26:31

were like, let's get her out of New York, we go

26:33

to Union City. And

26:36

so how old was your mom? What were the two

26:38

years she was away from her parents? How old was

26:41

she? It really sucks, man. You think about it, like

26:43

nine, 10, 11. Wow. So

26:46

by 17, she was married. She

26:49

was like, her parents. So she has like,

26:52

imagine that you got like three years, three

26:54

and a half years, no parents, older brothers

26:56

who were cool. Like

26:58

ones like, they're like Goof

27:00

is a gallant basically. She's

27:03

got like awesome brothers. But

27:06

for like three and a half years, no mom,

27:08

no dad, traditional old school. And

27:10

then they get here and

27:12

they're like, what

27:14

do you mean you're American now? You know, my

27:16

mom's like, I'm American now. Listening

27:19

to the rock and roll and all that shit. And

27:22

she ends up dating the guy across the street. They

27:24

get married at like 16, 17, she has

27:27

me. And

27:29

they're divorced five years later. But

27:33

she didn't live with her parents very

27:35

long. My mom still talks about the

27:37

greatest years of her life being those

27:39

years before Castro. I don't

27:41

know about you guys, but like my sons are

27:43

eight and six, the little guys. And

27:46

I'm always wondering what their earliest memories are gonna be.

27:49

And I think like tough things you

27:51

really remember earlier, I

27:53

think you can remember those things. And

27:55

my mom's whole childhood before she

27:58

left Cuba is like. Did

32:00

you feel Cuban? Was that something? Yes. 100%.

32:04

Well, the first time I went, and the

32:06

second time I went, I made a joke about it.

32:09

And the guy made me show him his more

32:12

ID that was bad. I made a joke. I forgot

32:14

I was in a country, not

32:16

our country. But the first time I went, they

32:18

thought I was coming back. And

32:20

they kept trying to put me in the people coming

32:22

back from Europe or wherever they like, you know,

32:25

they can travel, just can't travel

32:27

to America, right? So they thought

32:29

I was coming back. And I had

32:32

showed them the thing and they laughed, that they said, oh, you

32:34

look like you belong here. You know, in Spanish, I speak Spanish

32:36

fluently. And then the second time

32:38

I went, I was like, oh,

32:40

you're not gonna put me in the line

32:42

with the people coming back? And they were

32:45

like, come with us to this room, this

32:47

dark room over here. You

32:49

know, beat me up with a sack of quarters,

32:51

but they didn't. And

32:54

then your dad was

32:56

Italian heritage, yeah? But

32:59

I don't know, I don't have any, I have no, my

33:02

parents divorced when I was so young. And

33:05

then did you still, was your dad somebody you

33:07

still spent time with as you were older or

33:09

no? No, no, like

33:11

my mom remarried and she

33:14

remarried a Trinidadian guy named Tony,

33:17

who she met in

33:19

Puerto Rico. You're allowed to laugh at that. I'm

33:21

sorry, I've never said it out loud.

33:23

I don't think I've ever said it out loud. Like

33:26

I haven't talked about this to anybody. I'm

33:29

married to Trinidadian guy named Tony that

33:32

she met in Puerto Rico. Yeah,

33:34

that's how it goes. I

33:37

never, that's my brother's dad. Rest

33:39

in peace, he's gone now. But

33:42

yeah, gosh, that was something. So

33:44

how much younger was your brother? So you had a half

33:46

brother? My little brother's not, and nine years younger than me.

33:48

So he's 45 now, 46, yeah. He

33:52

lives in South Jersey. And my sister's

33:54

two years younger than me. Full

33:57

sister? Full sister, a full, I have

33:59

a full. or

36:00

whatever, you know. And we

36:02

went, one place, we went to Wildwood, New

36:04

Jersey. That was it. And we went for

36:06

like four days to Wildwood.

36:09

We stayed at one of those

36:11

like beachfront motels. And

36:13

that was it. That,

36:16

aside from that, the only other trip we ever took

36:18

was Montreal. And I remember like, it was always my

36:20

mother going, we gotta get out of here, we gotta

36:22

get out of here. Go somewhere. And I

36:25

remember taking this one trip to Montreal, like

36:27

it was so, it was Wildwood because it

36:29

was like a certain week that was cheaper

36:31

than the other weeks. And like, they always

36:33

booked it like years in

36:35

advance, right? So we'd bring everything with

36:37

us. You know, like now you're going,

36:39

you're like, I'll just

36:41

buy socks when I get there. Like stupid shit like

36:44

that. Like those luxuries did

36:46

not exist down to all the food we

36:48

would eat for those five days. Like we'd

36:50

bring all of the food and the- Did

36:52

you fly or did you drive up there?

36:54

No, flying, we drove. We

36:57

had like the big, you know,

36:59

the like the styrofoam

37:02

cooler, two of those with all the

37:04

food in it, you know? And

37:07

again, I remember one time

37:09

we went to Montreal because

37:11

my mom was like, let's go somewhere else. And

37:14

we went up, drove to Montreal, which now

37:16

I know is a six hour drive, but

37:19

that one trip sticks in my memory so

37:22

much because of how much

37:25

I got in trouble in a closed car. Do

37:28

you know what I mean? Like

37:31

how much, like how many times we had to

37:33

pull over for me on a

37:35

six hour drive. And we

37:37

did the whole thing. We drove

37:39

there, spent the day and then

37:42

drove back at night. And

37:44

I was expected to sleep and not speak. And

37:47

no walk bins, no nothing,

37:49

right? And I just remembered

37:51

that. And I just remembered that Tony was

37:53

quitting smoking. I was telling you

37:55

he was in a good mood. He was not

37:57

in a good mood. when

42:00

I went along one year. That's a real

42:02

sort of boardwalk busy beach

42:04

town. When you got to a place like that,

42:06

were you more cut loose to

42:09

go off on your own and run around

42:11

and? Yeah, I would say so. You

42:13

know, my sister and I, I'm sure

42:15

as you got, well, how many years apart are

42:17

you guys? Two years. Two, yeah. Like my sister

42:19

and I. You know, we really had each other

42:22

and we really played with each other. And

42:24

I remember we were allowed to go on

42:27

the boardwalk behind us and there were rides. We couldn't

42:29

do that by ourselves, but like we did

42:31

the thing every day where there was a certain

42:33

amount of money budgeted for us to go on

42:35

the rides and play a couple of games. But

42:40

most of the day was spent on the beach because

42:42

my mother loved the beach and

42:44

the Trinidadian did too, Tony.

42:46

You know, he loved being on the beach. So we were

42:49

just on the beach that whole week, all

42:51

day long. Back in the day, by the way, where

42:53

we were laughing about it the other day because Rose

42:55

just, she's always covering the kids in

42:58

sunscreen, Australian. And

43:01

we never wore sunscreen. My mother would put oil,

43:03

like put us in oil. It

43:06

was oil, wine, tropic or bande

43:09

soleil or whatever, all

43:11

over the kids, you know? And we would just be

43:13

out there all day. And

43:17

yeah, it was awesome. Did you love

43:19

the beach? Were you, to this day, do you love

43:21

the beach? To this day, I love a beach. I

43:23

do, I love a beach. But

43:28

yeah, my guys do

43:30

too, actually. Yeah, that

43:32

was it though. That was the vacation. I

43:34

mean, we would do like day trips to

43:37

Asbury Park to also to do

43:39

the ride, to go on the rides in Sandy

43:41

Hook Beach and, you know, the Jersey Shore basically.

43:43

But we never went for more than a day.

43:46

That's why that Montreal trip, when I think about

43:48

it, my mom has photo albums at her house

43:50

down in Miami and there's pictures from that trip.

43:52

And I laugh every time because I'm like, we

43:55

didn't stay in a hotel. We drove all the

43:57

way to Montreal and back in a day. Who

43:59

does that? And

46:00

he's like, there's just so many questions, there's so many questions. And I

46:02

did that through him the other day. I was like, you know what

46:04

buddy, I'm gonna level with you. You did the same thing to me.

46:07

He's like, you're my dad. And I was like, I

46:09

know, but he's, you're always gonna

46:11

have him. He's always gonna have you get

46:14

used to it on some level. I'm always

46:16

trying to give them like the real talk.

46:18

I know they can't handle it, you know?

46:21

But I gotta bleed those

46:23

things in, you know? The common sense things. Right,

46:25

you're stuck with them. It is like that thing

46:27

of, I know I'm your dad, but the same,

46:29

you're stuck with him. And that's

46:32

just, they now share a

46:34

bedroom, but in the early days, they

46:37

were one, you know, they had a wall between

46:39

them. And there was a

46:41

famous morning where Axel at like five in

46:43

the morning just started screaming through the wall,

46:45

like Ash, Ash. And finally

46:47

we heard Ash say what?

46:49

And he said, how do people make wood?

46:53

And that was at five in the morning, that

46:55

was the question. Oh,

46:57

this is so good. Just standing on the side

46:59

of his trip, just needed to know. Yeah,

47:03

yeah, great. We make fun of it, right? But it's

47:05

the best, the questions are the best. But

47:07

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47:09

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48:57

taken the boys there? I

48:59

think like four or five times now. I mean, I

49:01

would imagine they're at the age where they get excited

49:03

about that trip, despite its length. Yeah, they love going

49:06

to Australia. Everything's about watching movies,

49:08

because they don't, we don't watch TV in

49:10

the house except for on Friday and Saturday.

49:12

We're the same, and so travel, they love

49:14

travel because of that. They love travel, and

49:16

you know what? I give them the travel

49:18

because I know they don't watch anything most

49:20

of the time. They don't have iPads yet, this is all gonna

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change one day, I know, just hasn't happened

49:25

yet. So flying,

49:27

they've traveled a lot. So

49:29

long way away, and they're literally limitless.

49:32

They can do whatever

49:34

they want, pretty much, for

49:36

us to get through the 22 hour flight. And

49:39

then once we're there, yeah, like last year when we

49:41

went, we went for a month, and

49:44

we went so many different places. We took them

49:46

to Uluru, which if you don't know is the

49:48

beautiful, the incredible rock

49:52

in, you

49:54

know, like in the Northern territory. Yeah,

49:56

formerly Ayers Rock, or originally Uluru,

49:58

then Ayers Rock. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

50:01

And that's the outback, that's

50:03

like incredible country out there.

50:06

And then we took them to Melbourne and we went down

50:09

the coast, it was incredible.

50:11

And they're good,

50:14

they're good travelers, those guys, because

50:16

they've made that trip so many times. I

50:19

never thought I'd make a flight like that. And now I

50:21

like it there so much that the flight's nothing to me

50:23

now. As Rose says, it's a day of our life. Had

50:26

you ever, so you'd never been to Australia

50:28

pre-Rose for work or anything? I never met

50:30

an Australian really until Rose. And now I

50:32

know all of them, I think. But

50:36

yeah, but it's funny because the guys now that we

50:38

travel so much, that made me wanna

50:40

go on road trips. I don't know if I can,

50:42

if that's okay to like pivot

50:44

a little bit like that. Yeah, don't worry a lot. But

50:46

I do have to say. You can

50:48

talk about road trips all you want, man. Right,

50:51

it's hit me again, it binged in my head again, road trip.

50:56

I always wanted to drive cross country. So

50:59

flying to Australia so much, we did a lot of driving.

51:01

Once I got the hang of driving on the other side,

51:04

I'd mentioned to Rose, I was like, God, one day I gotta drive cross

51:06

country. She's like, why don't you just do it when we get back? I've

51:09

driven across this country five times in

51:11

the last five years now. Really? Wow.

51:14

Yeah, dudes, I'm obsessed with

51:16

it. Do you, are you driving solo? I'm

51:19

driving solo, okay, first trip was solo.

51:22

Brought the car to LA, because we were gonna be there

51:24

for a couple months for summer, Rose was working. I was

51:26

like, let me go get the car, that's a good excuse.

51:28

And I took like forever. She's like, take your time. Took

51:31

like 10 days and I drove across. And

51:34

that was what became the appeal, was

51:36

taking my time, staying wherever

51:38

I wanna stay, stopping whenever I wanna stop,

51:40

and not driving on the freeways at all.

51:43

So staying mostly county roads. It's

51:46

just an incredible, it's a beautiful country.

51:48

It's an astonishing country. I've

51:50

met so many people doing this and

51:52

seen so many different

51:55

geographical, you know,

51:57

marvels. So

52:02

my kids now know that I do

52:04

this and they're dying to come on

52:06

one with me. So we're building to

52:09

getting them just old enough to be able to do

52:11

it together. And I'm gonna take them just the guys.

52:14

Sounds like probably different route every time to

52:16

some degree. Different route every time, yeah. Wow.

52:19

When you say you've met so many people, where

52:22

are you meeting people? Where are you sort of?

52:24

No, wherever I stop to eat, wherever I stay

52:26

and I wake up in the morning and go

52:28

to the local coffee shop, I'm pretty much staying

52:30

in bed and breakfast and

52:33

timed little ins and things. But

52:37

the first time I did it, I did it by myself. And

52:39

then the last four times I

52:42

went with a good buddy who meets

52:44

me halfway or goes halfway and then

52:46

leaves. So I have half the time

52:48

with the buddy and it's

52:50

incredible, it's incredible. Do you plan it ahead

52:52

or you just sort of fly by the

52:54

seat of your pants with the bed and

52:57

breakfast? No, that I

52:59

just start looking wherever and wherever I know. I

53:01

think in a couple hours I'm gonna wanna stop

53:03

and I start to look ahead. And

53:05

I get really good at, I've gotten really

53:07

good at base

53:09

following nothing more than the

53:12

little Southwest or

53:17

the little digital compass. I'm always

53:19

like, if I'm going sort of in that

53:21

direction, I'm okay. And then I'll check it

53:24

and see, I am going in the right direction.

53:28

There are a few things that I do wanna see along the

53:30

way. Like I became obsessed with the Grand Canyon. First time I

53:32

did it, I hiked

53:35

down. I didn't go as far as I

53:37

wanted to, I came back. I was like, that is so much

53:39

time left still in the day. And then

53:41

the next time I did it, I went

53:43

down to close to the bottom, came back

53:45

pretty exhausted. And then the third time I

53:47

did it, I brought my buddy

53:49

and we did something very dangerous

53:52

actually, which is we went all the way

53:54

to the bottom in August, like

53:56

bathed in the creek down there, had

53:59

like... coffee,

1:02:01

whatever bun, whatever muffin

1:02:03

I can get on

1:02:05

the road and just keep doing that. And

1:02:07

then find a couple of cool places, what

1:02:09

I always do, right? Some places I just

1:02:11

blast through and other places, I

1:02:14

stay for a little bit. I stay for a night or two

1:02:16

and we would do that. But

1:02:19

that would be, I am looking forward to doing

1:02:21

that. I wanna do that with them. And I just love

1:02:24

that they wanna do it so bad because I feel like

1:02:26

the sense of going, that's the other thing is

1:02:29

going off of the highway, I think for kids

1:02:31

that's boring. I think it is more exciting to

1:02:33

drive through farmland or

1:02:37

but like in the back roads and go,

1:02:39

look at that one. Look at this, oh,

1:02:41

well, that's cool. There's so many surprises along

1:02:43

the way. I feel like Dr. Seuss, but

1:02:46

it really is. This country really is like that,

1:02:49

the whole thing. Have

1:02:51

you had any notable sort of great

1:02:54

trips with your boys that are

1:02:57

more stateside? Do

1:02:59

you go off on little family vacations

1:03:01

or quick excursions? Summertime,

1:03:03

we've done that, but that's

1:03:06

just to get somewhere really, right? To get out to

1:03:08

the beach for a week or we like it up

1:03:10

in the Hudson Valley. But

1:03:16

not so much, although you know what? I'm going to

1:03:18

Ireland, I'm gonna make a movie in Ireland this summer

1:03:20

and I'm gonna bring them out for a couple of

1:03:22

weeks. So I think we will go for some good

1:03:24

drives in Ireland. The one

1:03:26

time I went there, we did a lot of that. Don't

1:03:28

name names. Any other people I know that are working in

1:03:30

Ireland? Cause I feel like multiple people have told me. Mutual

1:03:34

people we know are working in. There's a lot going on

1:03:36

in Ireland right now, I agree. So that

1:03:38

makes it all the better, right? When you can

1:03:40

go out and see friends from Brooklyn. Yeah, it's

1:03:43

true. That's great. That's

1:03:45

the problem of when you do these late night shows, they're just

1:03:47

all home games. You never get to see the world. Just

1:03:50

working in the same building for 22

1:03:52

years. I haven't seen anything. Painted

1:03:54

Highway, what is this? I was listening to one.

1:03:57

I was listening. Painted Highway. No, that's not

1:03:59

it. I listen to a lot of Gordon Lightfoot

1:04:01

in the car too. There you go. Yeah. How

1:04:04

about the songs that come on? When

1:04:06

you're in a car for a really long

1:04:08

time, you actively try to remember the songs

1:04:10

that you know you knew the words to

1:04:14

see if you still know the words, and

1:04:16

that's a day. That's like a day. I

1:04:18

can do that for a day, seeing if

1:04:20

I remember the words to the Rain King,

1:04:22

or hold my hand or whatever. But

1:04:29

yeah, I'm

1:04:32

sorry. I forgot what we got off. That's

1:04:34

fine. We rarely know all the words to

1:04:36

any song. So it doesn't take us a

1:04:38

day. You guys were talking about

1:04:40

hearing your life. You were listening on one of

1:04:43

your podcasts. You're talking about listening back to things.

1:04:46

I think Josh listens to two speed or something.

1:04:48

Oh yeah. Which is too fast for some things.

1:04:50

It made me laugh because it got me thinking

1:04:53

about this thing about hearing

1:04:56

our voices. Imagine

1:04:58

people never heard themselves. In

1:05:03

the days when people didn't hear themselves, did

1:05:06

people have the craziest laughs? I

1:05:09

mean, were there people who just fucking,

1:05:12

because nobody cared, and nobody said anything,

1:05:14

and you couldn't hear your own. Whenever

1:05:17

I hear my laugh, it's so

1:05:19

horrible. It's a cackle that I

1:05:21

hear when I'm really laughing, and

1:05:23

I can't control myself, that even

1:05:26

if I try in the moment, because I'm

1:05:28

an actor, so I try to sometimes

1:05:32

be outside of what's happening, so I

1:05:34

can see it, and I can't control

1:05:36

my laugh. It's horrible. But

1:05:39

back in the day, people didn't

1:05:41

care at all about

1:05:43

those things. Yeah, I

1:05:45

think now we just,

1:05:48

without realizing it, we're critical of

1:05:50

everything, because we can hear it and see it.

1:05:54

There should be in those, for example,

1:05:58

like there was all, like, you know, Borneo, There

1:06:00

would be like vaudeville scenes where guys would be telling

1:06:02

jokes. They should have had the people in the audience

1:06:05

just like crazy laughs. Yeah,

1:06:07

they totally shut up. You're

1:06:09

right. You're right. Yeah, yeah,

1:06:11

yeah. I

1:06:16

was good buddies with Paul Rubens who always would talk

1:06:18

about the first people that danced.

1:06:21

Like you see those people in like the

1:06:23

20s and he's like, they don't know what

1:06:25

they're doing. They're just like smiling too big.

1:06:27

And it's like, yeah, there's no reflection of like,

1:06:29

how do I look right now? Yeah, I think

1:06:32

about that often actually. Sometimes I

1:06:34

mean, anybody who knows me will tell you that

1:06:36

like, you know, I'm just I'm

1:06:39

like a six year old sometimes with

1:06:41

like the wonders of life still. Today

1:06:43

you mentioned Paul Rubens. I thought about

1:06:45

him today, Josh. You know, I was coming. I

1:06:47

dropped the kids off at school. Rafa, Rocco wants

1:06:49

to bounce a basketball now to school every day.

1:06:51

So I have to take that home. And

1:06:53

then the other one wants to get on the scooter with the

1:06:55

helmet. And there's nowhere to put it. So

1:06:57

I'm stuck with all this shit. And I

1:06:59

know I got to go to the bakery. It's like

1:07:02

six blocks away. I'll try to be brief, but I

1:07:04

go up there. I'm carrying the thing. Everybody's taking their

1:07:06

kids. I'm pissed off. And I go and

1:07:08

I stand in line. I get the bread. And then I get

1:07:11

on this tiny little scooter, a razor,

1:07:13

two wheeler. And I go

1:07:15

down Henry Street in Brooklyn here,

1:07:18

which is all downhill. And I'm

1:07:20

not kidding you guys. I'm not kidding you guys. I

1:07:22

made it from, from Monague

1:07:24

and Henry to about two blocks

1:07:27

from my house because I caught all

1:07:29

the lights and like, like

1:07:32

garbage truck holding up traffic, garbage guys

1:07:35

waving to me, saying good

1:07:37

morning, Atlantic Avenue accident and

1:07:39

traffic jams. So I didn't have to

1:07:41

stop. I kept going. I made it

1:07:43

almost all the two blocks from my

1:07:45

house on like two kicks.

1:07:49

Amazing child's thing. And I felt

1:07:51

like Paul Rubens. I thought about him.

1:07:53

I was like, I feel like Pee Wee

1:07:55

Harmon right now. Like I've seen the whole

1:07:57

world through another lens and it's all working

1:07:59

for me. right now, so anyway. That

1:08:01

sounds like the opening credit

1:08:03

sequence to Bobby. Yeah,

1:08:06

Bobby in Brooklyn. I had a,

1:08:08

so my boys, like last year, they had their

1:08:10

scooters, and then I would razor scooter with them.

1:08:12

I had one for me. You had a big

1:08:14

one. Yeah, and so the three of us would

1:08:16

go to school, and I think it looked like

1:08:18

the cutest thing in the world. Then though, I

1:08:20

would drop them off, and then it would just

1:08:22

be me on a razor scooter home, and the

1:08:24

amount I felt people being like, recognizing

1:08:26

me and being like, what's gone wrong for

1:08:28

him? Yeah,

1:08:30

right? I definitely see that, but

1:08:33

I don't care. Like by the time they figured

1:08:35

it out, I'm gone, by the way. Right, when

1:08:37

you're catching all the lights. You're just catching all

1:08:39

the lights, and you gotta be

1:08:41

like really, like I'm so hyper careful.

1:08:43

I look down at all, you know,

1:08:45

because I don't wanna take a header,

1:08:47

you know? No. Well, I'm

1:08:50

being watched, certainly. Yeah. Yeah,

1:08:52

you don't wanna, but when you're at the stoplights for

1:08:54

those, that's the bad part. When you're

1:08:56

just like being stationary on a razor scooter. And

1:08:59

you know what? It's not

1:09:01

cool to like reach in and look at your

1:09:03

phone, because you're still, you're on the scooter. Yeah,

1:09:05

no, you have to. You gotta keep one hand

1:09:07

on the thing, on the stupid thing. Well, and

1:09:10

it's really low, this one, so. So Ezra,

1:09:12

you're in Ezra with Rose. This is how

1:09:14

many times have you guys worked together? Well,

1:09:17

we were talking about it the other night, nine. Nine?

1:09:21

Yeah, nine. That's pretty much a lot. Wow, you met

1:09:23

on set. Is that right? No, we didn't,

1:09:25

no, no, we met, Tate Donovan's an old

1:09:27

friend of mine, and he was doing damages with Rose, their

1:09:31

first season, and I met her then,

1:09:33

and we were in

1:09:35

totally different times in our lives.

1:09:38

So socially, whenever I'd get

1:09:40

together with Tate and his cast, we'd

1:09:42

see each other. So we were sort

1:09:44

of friendly before that, and then a few years later,

1:09:47

after that, 12 years ago this year,

1:09:49

we remit at a play. We

1:09:52

were both in the audience of a play, and we went on a date a

1:09:54

week later, and then we worked

1:09:56

together six months after that and it was the

1:09:58

first time, and then consequently. You

1:10:00

have eight more times. Two things, Tay

1:10:02

Donovan, I was just thinking about because

1:10:05

my boys just watched

1:10:07

Hercules for the first time. He's the voice

1:10:09

of Hercules, which is

1:10:11

fantastic. He's great. Do

1:10:14

your kids ask you if you know all the

1:10:16

people that they like? No, they

1:10:18

don't. And they've met a few, but

1:10:22

they haven't quite put together that I would know

1:10:24

them yet. And a few times I've said, oh,

1:10:27

you know, that person who does have voices on

1:10:29

my show, but then when I show them a

1:10:31

clip, they're disappointed that it doesn't look like, if

1:10:33

I showed them a picture of Tay Donovan, they

1:10:35

would be very disappointed if he looked less like

1:10:37

Hercules. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a good point. Yeah,

1:10:40

yeah. I do a voice, I

1:10:42

did a voice in an animated series that Seth

1:10:44

created and his eldest now is like, you were

1:10:46

perfect man? And I'm like, yeah. And I do

1:10:48

it and he's like, you sound like him. And

1:10:51

I'm like, yeah, because that, I

1:10:53

was him. Yes,

1:10:55

that's really cute. How many times do you guys think

1:10:57

you would have worked, it

1:11:00

seems like you were probably trying to, I

1:11:03

don't know, shape it so that you

1:11:05

worked together, yes? Not really,

1:11:07

to be honest. I think it's just that, I just

1:11:09

think that people, let's

1:11:12

be honest, like the people who pay in

1:11:14

the checks, they're not like

1:11:16

that creative, right? So you

1:11:19

see something once, you go, hey,

1:11:21

whoa, let's do that again. So

1:11:23

Rose and I actually say no

1:11:25

to a lot of those things.

1:11:27

But the bonus is that we

1:11:29

like working together and our schedules

1:11:32

match up. Like our whole,

1:11:34

our life is just our schedule and

1:11:36

it's not our schedule really, it's the kids'

1:11:38

schedules. So like everything sort of revolves around

1:11:40

that until it can't

1:11:42

and then we have to figure that out.

1:11:44

But we try to schedule everything around the

1:11:46

kids. And so when we get asked to

1:11:48

work together, that's usually a good thing for

1:11:51

our schedule with the kids. I would imagine. Yeah,

1:11:54

and most of the things that we've done together have

1:11:56

been here. Right, so this

1:11:58

was mostly, because I know this is... There's

1:12:01

a road trip element here, but mostly you were

1:12:03

shooting this one in New York? All

1:12:06

here in New Jersey and New York, yeah. Great. Hey

1:12:09

guys, I mean, you'd think I'd be

1:12:11

more on the ball here. I just got

1:12:13

that the movie is a road trip movie

1:12:15

and it connects to this podcast. I'm not

1:12:17

even joking that it just hit me. I'm

1:12:22

so bad I have no media training.

1:12:24

No. No. So,

1:12:30

like, can you imagine if this was really only like

1:12:32

an eight minute show and you guys are like, what

1:12:34

the fuck are we going to do? I

1:12:37

don't even know how to make this work. Media

1:12:40

training 101, show up with a fly

1:12:42

swatter. Yeah. Tell

1:12:44

you what, I haven't seen

1:12:46

him. Yeah, I think he scared him away

1:12:48

early. Yeah, that was like show up with

1:12:51

a big stick. It's just the big ones

1:12:53

I don't like. The flies, what's the flies

1:12:55

about? Yeah, big old fly. Yeah, but then

1:12:57

again, I think again about like the farm.

1:13:01

Not that I know I'm not living in a farm, but

1:13:03

like there would be flies, right? There

1:13:05

would be flies. More flies than you have. A

1:13:07

fly swatter, they probably don't even have fly

1:13:10

swatters on the farm because it's fruitless. They're

1:13:12

like, we can't stop this wave no matter

1:13:14

what we do. Yeah, yeah. The ones I

1:13:16

don't like are the ones that grow out

1:13:18

of the fruit from nowhere. Yeah, no thanks.

1:13:21

That one I'm like, please. Thank

1:13:23

you. Yeah. All right,

1:13:25

Bobby, you media training or not, I

1:13:28

could tell you one of my favorite guests we've ever had on this

1:13:30

podcast. Really? Absolutely fantastic.

1:13:32

Oh, fantastic. You're a hit. You're a

1:13:35

hit. No, you're a hit. All right. We

1:13:37

always, you know, Josh and I do try to see

1:13:39

this through the lens of what will our parents say

1:13:41

and you're going to be a real hit with Hillary

1:13:44

and Larry. Oh, yeah, thanks guys.

1:13:46

This was really easy. I do get really

1:13:48

nervous. Like, look, I brought a hat and

1:13:50

I brought, you know, like I

1:13:52

brought Jake Tapper's book. You know,

1:13:54

I just like that book. He sent me

1:13:56

that book. Let's

1:13:59

be honest. Um, yeah,

1:14:01

so, uh, Josh is going to, before you go, Josh

1:14:03

is going to ask you some questions real quick. Some

1:14:06

quick questions. Uh, you can only

1:14:08

pick one of these. Is your

1:14:11

ideal vacation relaxing, adventurous, or educational?

1:14:13

Adventurous. Uh,

1:14:15

what is your favorite means of

1:14:18

transportation? Train, plane, automobile, boat, bike,

1:14:20

walking? Something

1:14:22

else? Walking. What

1:14:24

do you mean? In the city? Just any,

1:14:26

like just means of transportation. In the

1:14:29

city, walking everywhere, biking everywhere, city biking

1:14:31

everywhere, and in general, car. Okay.

1:14:34

This one's a little trickier. If you could take

1:14:36

a family vacation with any family, alive

1:14:39

or dead, real or fictional, other than your

1:14:41

own family, what family would you like to

1:14:43

take a vacation with? Holy

1:14:46

shit, that's a great question. Um...

1:14:51

Um, fuck. I

1:14:54

mean, like maybe like

1:14:56

the Jacksons in 1968. Great answer.

1:14:58

Great answer. Love it. I'd

1:15:01

love to be with those guys, see what's happening.

1:15:03

By the way, if you think, if you think

1:15:05

of, yeah, never mind, I won't even say. If

1:15:10

you had to be stranded on a desert

1:15:12

island with one member of your family, who

1:15:14

would it be? If I

1:15:16

had to be? You had to be. I'm

1:15:20

not counting my wife and kids, because of course

1:15:22

I want them. You mean... But you have to

1:15:25

pick one. Oh, it's only one. Only one. Oh,

1:15:27

Jesus. Well, you know,

1:15:30

the kids I love all the same, so I guess I'm

1:15:32

not going to screw that one up. Um,

1:15:35

um, I guess Rose for sure,

1:15:37

actually. And then just if, if,

1:15:39

if Rocco and Rafa are only

1:15:42

listening to this, your dad did

1:15:44

giant quote fingers for loving you

1:15:46

all the same. The

1:15:49

little one's been asking me that a lot lately. It

1:15:51

says like, new way to nudge me. Dad, who do

1:15:53

you like the most? That one.

1:15:56

I, my wife said to our middle son Axel,

1:15:58

you know, you're my son. least favorite

1:16:00

and he just he's he's can't he's he

1:16:02

cannot be rattled and he was just like

1:16:04

he was looking out the window goes yeah

1:16:06

but I'm also your favorite and she

1:16:08

was like yeah that's about right

1:16:11

he kind of he kind of occupies the

1:16:13

polls I like

1:16:15

to tell them who's like who's smarter this

1:16:17

week you know I mean like your brother

1:16:19

you were much smarter last week you know

1:16:22

I find that helps yeah

1:16:24

the drive something to strive for

1:16:26

yeah so you would say

1:16:29

you're from Union City New Jersey

1:16:32

yes this hometown would you recommend

1:16:34

Union City as a vacation destination

1:16:36

you know what I

1:16:38

would tell people if they wanted to go

1:16:41

for the best drive go across the Lincoln

1:16:43

Tunnel bear right go up Boulevard East and

1:16:45

all of that Boulevard East which is also

1:16:47

part of that is Hamilton Terrace where Alexander

1:16:49

Hamilton was shot by Aaron Burr it's still

1:16:51

there Hamilton Terrace and drive your car there

1:16:53

and all along the water there it's a

1:16:55

cliff it's the top of a cliff and

1:16:58

we I grew up with the best views

1:17:00

of New York City it is the greatest

1:17:02

view of New York City and there's parks

1:17:04

along basketball bring a basketball it's

1:17:06

beautiful and it ends in a

1:17:08

beautiful county park

1:17:10

called Hudson County Park we call that the

1:17:12

alien Street Park but so

1:17:15

yeah that's a great good

1:17:17

specific instruction because I will say when we

1:17:20

drive into the city coming down Hudson you

1:17:22

know the and you look across it does look like a

1:17:25

beautiful I mean exactly what you said like a cliff that

1:17:27

looks over New York City I grew

1:17:29

up on 19th Street and it's right across from

1:17:31

19th Street and Union

1:17:33

City you know it's

1:17:35

a little further back from the cliff

1:17:37

like I could see the Empire State

1:17:40

Building from our kitchen from our apartment

1:17:42

window but I couldn't see everything because

1:17:44

they psyched eight ten blocks to the

1:17:46

cliffside and that old cliffside is called

1:17:48

West New York so West New York

1:17:51

all the streets match up with the

1:17:53

street numbers on this side well

1:17:56

so so like you know where I was baptized it

1:17:58

at my first communion and all that that stuff

1:18:00

is like these three domes that if

1:18:02

you look across from like 20th Street

1:18:04

and Chelsea-ish, you can see those three

1:18:07

domes. That's 20th Street. That's my St.

1:18:09

Michael's Demonestary that they never knocked down.

1:18:11

So I kind of see Union City

1:18:13

every day. Oh, it's cool. It's

1:18:15

pretty wild, but I would recommend that as a day trip

1:18:18

for sure and pick up some good cumin food while you're

1:18:20

there. Excellent.

1:18:22

And Seth has our last questions, which was kind of

1:18:24

answered. You've answered it. The question was going to be,

1:18:26

have you been to the Grand Canyon and was it

1:18:28

worth it? But I feel like hardcore guesses on both.

1:18:31

I have a feeling like that might be Grand Canyon. Maybe it might

1:18:33

be in the title of the show. Grand

1:18:36

Canyon. Yes. He's going to call

1:18:38

it. He's going to call it right now. I

1:18:42

think the title of the show is going to be like, uh, it's

1:18:44

going to be like, uh, uh, find out

1:18:46

more about Trinidad Tony. I think that might

1:18:48

be right. God,

1:18:52

I've never said that out loud. Certainly

1:18:54

not publicly, but like nobody's

1:18:57

asked me about my stepfather or anything like

1:18:59

that. So Tony from

1:19:01

Trinidad. Yeah. I'm glad he finally, he finally got

1:19:04

his due. Um, Bobby, I hope I see you

1:19:06

in person again soon. Love to you and your

1:19:08

whole family and your family as well. Josh, great

1:19:10

to meet you. Great to meet you

1:19:12

too. Thanks for coming on. All right. Bye Bobby. Bye.

1:19:14

Bye. Bye. He's

1:20:05

Bobby Carnapalley. Who is

1:20:07

the man? Who

1:20:21

is the man who rides a razor scooter?

1:20:25

Smiles and waves from all the local

1:20:27

shops. He's

1:20:29

the neighborhood's Judas commuter.

1:20:33

At the intersection's traffic stops. It's

1:20:38

Bobby Carnapalley. That

1:20:45

goes Bobby Carnapalley. He's

1:20:53

Bobby Carnapalley. Carnapalley.

1:21:16

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