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1:08

is GPS, the Global Public Square. Welcome to

1:10

all of you in the United States and

1:12

around the world. I'm Fareed

1:14

Zakaria coming to you from London. Today

1:18

on the show, polls

1:21

predict that Britain's Labour Party will win

1:24

big in next month's election after being

1:26

out of power for 14 years. If

1:30

that happens, my guest, David Lamey, is

1:32

likely to become the country's foreign secretary.

1:35

I'll ask him what Britain would do differently

1:37

in Ukraine and the Middle East and how

1:40

he would deal with a potential President Trump.

1:43

You have called him a

1:45

woman-hating, neo-Nazi, sympathizing psychopath. It's

1:48

going to be an awkward meeting in the White House. Across

1:53

the channel, France will hold elections

1:55

even sooner. It's one of the

1:57

most dangerous political gambles in recent

1:59

memory. played by

2:01

President Emmanuel Macron, alas,

2:03

the Economist's Paris Bureau Chief, Sophie

2:05

Betta, whether it can work. And

2:09

a sneak peek at

2:11

America's Mess with Mexico, my

2:14

new primetime special. But

2:18

first, here's my take. In

2:21

June 2016, the Brexit referendum

2:23

alerted us all to the

2:25

rising power of populism and

2:27

signaled that Donald Trump had a real chance

2:29

of winning. Visiting

2:31

Britain now on the eve of its

2:34

general election, I felt

2:36

I caught another glimpse of where politics

2:38

might be headed in advanced democracies. Democrats

2:41

facing a resurgent Donald Trump this

2:43

fall should pay close attention. No

2:47

matter what poll you look at, the

2:49

ruling Conservative Party appears headed for a

2:51

catastrophic defeat. One poll

2:54

in particular has captured everyone's attention.

2:56

Conducted by Savannah for the Telegraph, it

2:59

predicts that Labour will beat the Conservatives,

3:01

also known as the Tories, by 21

3:03

points. A statistical

3:05

model from Savannah and another firm,

3:08

Electoral Calculus, translates these numbers into

3:10

parliamentary seats based on polling and

3:12

turnout estimates, projecting that Labour will

3:15

win over 500 seats out of

3:17

650 in the House of

3:19

Commons, and the Conservatives will get barely 50.

3:23

That would amount to the fewest seats

3:25

won by the Conservative Party since its

3:27

founding in 1834. According

3:31

to these projections, most of

3:33

Britain's senior-most Cabinet ministers would lose

3:35

in their own constituencies, including Rishi

3:37

Sunak, who could become the

3:39

first sitting Prime Minister to

3:41

be so humiliated. I

3:44

should caution that other models relying on

3:46

different data don't expect the results to

3:48

be this bad for the Conservatives, but

3:50

they still forecast a crushing defeat. This

3:54

fall from grace is particularly stunning because in

3:56

the last British elections in 2019, the

3:59

Tories gained a number of votes. a

4:01

majority of 365, the largest since the

4:03

Margaret Thatcher years, and Labour had its

4:05

worst night at the polls since 1935.

4:10

What explains the Conservative debacle?

4:13

Rory Stewart, the Tory politician and

4:15

author of a brilliant memoir, How

4:17

Not to Be a Politician, argues

4:20

that over the last decade the

4:22

Conservative Party lost one of its

4:24

most treasured attributes, seriousness.

4:27

He told me, the Labour Party has

4:29

usually been seen as well-meaning with its

4:31

heart in the right place, but feckless,

4:33

rash, and often incompetent. The

4:36

Tories were seen as tough,

4:38

even heartless, but assuredly competent.

4:41

That reputation has been trashed by

4:43

the chaos of Boris Johnson, Theresa

4:45

May et al. But

4:47

it's more than just incompetence. The

4:49

Conservatives face a problem that afflicts

4:51

the right almost everywhere. What

4:54

do they stand for? Since

4:56

2010, the Tories presented themselves

4:58

under David Cameron as the

5:01

party of traditional fiscal conservatism,

5:03

which meant austerity. Then

5:05

they pivoted to Trump-style populism

5:07

under Boris Johnson, and then

5:10

to Thatcherite free market

5:12

ideology under Liz Truss. Recently,

5:15

the populist hard-right reform UK party,

5:17

led by Nigel Farage, has been

5:19

climbing in the polls and dividing

5:21

the Conservative vote, which might give

5:24

Labour an even larger parliamentary majority

5:26

than it would already have gotten.

5:29

As I've argued before, politics

5:31

is moving away from the

5:33

left-right divide over economics to

5:35

an open-closed one, centred on

5:37

cultural issues like immigration, identity,

5:39

and multiculturalism. As

5:41

the Tories remain internally divided on

5:43

these issues, reform presents itself squarely

5:46

as advocating for a more closed

5:48

Britain. Assuming that the

5:50

Tories do suffer a humiliating defeat, it's

5:53

conceivable that Nigel Farage will find a

5:55

way to take over the Conservative party

5:58

and make it thoroughly populist our

16:00

signatories to the Statute

16:02

of Rome and we believe in the

16:04

ICC and the ICJ. Now

16:07

I've seen what the chief prosecutor

16:09

has said about his desire for

16:11

warrants. There is a process, a

16:13

court process that will determine whether

16:15

they will be granted but

16:18

we have been very clear in the

16:20

Labour Party that we believe

16:22

in the Rules Based Order, we

16:24

believe in international law, we also believe

16:27

in the separation of powers, very important

16:29

in democracy, so it is not for

16:31

me as a politician to start quizzing

16:35

or debating the determination that are

16:37

made by senior judges whether domestically

16:39

or internationally. I agree but I

16:41

have to comply with that. So

16:43

you will comply. I have to

16:45

comply with that if an

16:47

order is issued, that is an if, let us see

16:50

where we get to down the line. But

16:52

if it is you will comply. Here

16:55

in the UK we will comply and that

16:57

will be the same across Europe. I know

16:59

that the United States is not a signature

17:02

to the Statute and so there will be

17:04

a different debate in the United States about

17:06

these issues, I recognize that. Next

17:09

on GPS I'll ask David Lamy

17:11

whether he could find common cause

17:14

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17:16

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19:06

And we are back with the British

19:08

shadow foreign secretary, David Lamme. I

19:10

sat down with him earlier this week in London. Your

19:14

most important ally is the United States of

19:16

America. Worthy election to

19:18

take place and it looks

19:21

like there's a 50% chance Donald

19:23

Trump would be elected president. You

19:26

have called him a woman-hating

19:28

neo-Nazi sympathizing psychopath. It's

19:31

going to be an awkward meeting in the White House. Let

19:36

me just say that if I

19:39

am elected foreign secretary, I don't

19:41

think there will have been a

19:43

foreign secretary in UK history quite

19:45

as Atlanticist as I am.

19:47

I have family in the United States.

19:50

My father died in the United States.

19:52

I studied at Harvard in the United

19:54

States. I worked in the United

19:56

States as a lawyer. the

20:02

nature of the UK's relationship

20:04

with the United States means that whoever

20:07

is in the White House,

20:09

whoever is in number 10, the

20:11

nature of our intelligence relationship, our

20:14

military relationship and the fact that we see

20:16

the world largely

20:19

through similar eyes means that

20:21

that partnership is important for us, but it's

20:23

also important for many other

20:25

countries in the world. It's

20:28

been really important for me over many

20:30

years now to have built partnerships,

20:33

not just in the Democrat Party,

20:35

but amongst Republicans. But

20:38

you've got to admit, it's going to be much harder for

20:41

him to warm to you. Do you regret

20:43

saying it? Oh, come on. Our

20:45

current Foreign Secretary, David Cameron,

20:48

called Donald Trump a

20:50

xenophobe and a misogynist. You will be

20:53

hard pressed to find any politician

20:56

across the globe who in that

20:58

first period where Twitter particularly was

21:00

high who did not have robust

21:02

things to say, but the business

21:05

of our freedom with war

21:07

here in Europe and

21:09

the sovereign responsibilities I have in

21:11

this country, if I become Foreign

21:13

Secretary and to the world mean

21:15

that, look, I'm sorry, this is way beyond Twitter

21:18

words. This is the key

21:20

partnership that the United Kingdom and

21:23

the US have. It goes beyond

21:25

political party. And I look forward,

21:27

if that is the decision of

21:30

the American people to change leadership in

21:32

the United States to working with Americans,

21:34

and that is why I continue to

21:37

work with the Republican parties on the

21:39

seven trips that I have made to

21:41

D.C. since becoming Shadow Foreign Secretary. Do

21:43

you worry that Donald Trump will weaken

21:46

America's commitment to NATO and what would

21:48

that mean for Europe? Look,

21:51

I recognize in Donald Trump

21:53

quite a lot of rhetoric. It's

21:55

quite noisy. But I also

21:57

recognize what Donald Trump last time delivered

22:00

in office and the truth is Donald

22:02

Trump actually upped American troops to

22:05

NATO and their presence in Europe. He

22:08

sent the first javelins to

22:11

Ukraine actually

22:14

because he likes a deal and he likes to

22:16

get things done he's not

22:19

going to want to see the United States or

22:21

its partners lose any battles ahead.

22:23

That is the truth of it. And you're

22:25

going to be a diplomat so what are

22:27

you going to say to break the ice

22:29

with him given that history? Oh

22:32

look I mean what I

22:34

see in Donald Trump is a

22:36

huge personality clearly.

22:41

Someone who knows his own mind. I

22:44

am known here in Europe as

22:47

having friends across the political

22:49

divide. I'm

22:51

not particularly partisan. I might

22:53

say also I am

22:56

a Christian. I was discussing

23:01

with I think it was JD

23:03

Vance my Christian

23:05

faith and the commonality between

23:07

the book I wrote a

23:10

few years ago tribes and his book

23:12

Hill Bilielidae and our assessment

23:14

particularly of working-class communities here in

23:16

Europe and the United States the

23:19

pressures they felt and why we

23:21

are living through these times with

23:23

the politics that we have. So

23:26

for me in politics it's about

23:28

finding the common ground. David

23:31

Lamy pleasure to have you on. Thank you very much.

23:34

Next on GPS French politics

23:36

is in turmoil a week

23:38

after President Macron called surprise

23:41

parliamentary elections. Is

23:43

the right-wing party of Marine Le Pen

23:45

destined to lead the country? We'll

23:47

discuss that when we come back. Last

23:55

week President Macron of France called

23:57

snap elections for his country's Parliament.

24:00

He did so after elections for the

24:02

European Parliament, so his party secured just

24:05

14.6% of

24:07

the vote. The far-right National Rally

24:09

Party of Marine Le Pen, by

24:11

contrast, won 31.4%, a historic vote

24:15

share for her party. Macron said

24:17

he couldn't do nothing in the wake of this

24:19

defeat. He hopes this new election

24:21

will stave off the far-right coming to power in

24:24

2027, when France

24:26

has presidential elections. But

24:29

it is a risky gamble for the

24:31

immediate future of French politics. Macron's

24:33

party is polling in a distant

24:35

third place behind Marine Le Pen's party

24:38

in first and a coalition of leftist

24:40

parties in second. So

24:42

what could the future of French politics

24:44

hold? Joining me now is

24:46

Sophie Petter, the Paris Bureau Chief of the

24:49

Economist. Sophie welcome. So

24:51

first, from everything you can tell,

24:54

what was the logic behind this?

24:56

He does badly, his party gets

24:58

trounced in the European elections, but

25:00

he didn't have to hold elections

25:02

for the French Parliament. What

25:04

do you think motivated him? And it appears to have

25:07

been Macron's decision alone.

25:11

Yes, that's right. And of course, under

25:13

the French Fifth Republic Constitution, it is

25:15

the power of the president to dissolve

25:17

the National Assembly when he wishes to

25:20

do so. So he is

25:22

using that constitutional power. It took everybody

25:24

by surprise. I mean, literally everybody, including

25:26

his own prime minister, who only learned

25:28

about this decision about an hour before

25:31

it was announced. And the one argument

25:33

is indeed the one you've just pointed

25:35

to for it, it's that this could,

25:37

in time, help

25:40

make the hard right look less

25:42

electable for 2027, when the presidency

25:44

is at stake,

25:46

not just the government and the parliament. And

25:49

the other is that he felt

25:51

himself boxed into a corner. This

25:53

is an alternative explanation, that he's

25:55

been running a minority government for

25:57

two years, the president has been.

26:00

that he was probably going to face a

26:02

vote of no confidence in September when his

26:04

parliament voted on his budget, and that this

26:06

could have forced that kind of election on

26:08

him. So that Macron, as

26:10

you know, likes to control what he

26:12

can and take the initiative when he

26:14

can, and the thought that this was

26:16

a way of at least controlling

26:19

the timing of the election and catching everyone

26:21

else unawares. Now, an interesting development

26:23

has taken place, which is the old

26:25

centre-right party, the party of General de

26:28

Gaulle, seems to have

26:30

split in a bizarre way where half of

26:32

them want to ally with Marine Le Pen,

26:34

and the other half do not. Has this

26:36

all sorted itself out? I

26:39

mean, what I think we're looking

26:41

at is the aftershocks really going

26:43

back to what happened in 2017

26:45

when Emmanuel Macron was elected for

26:47

the first time, and he

26:49

really upended the party political system

26:52

in France by creating this new

26:54

centrist movement that crushed on

26:56

the left the Socialist Party at

26:58

the time, crushed on the right

27:00

the Republicans Party. Those were the

27:02

two parties that had dominated post-war

27:04

politics in France and post-war governments.

27:07

And in doing so, in creating this

27:09

centre, he has sort of really

27:13

shaken up the party political system. We're

27:15

seeing the aftershocks of that now because

27:18

we are seeing two blocks emerge which

27:20

are essentially led or dominated

27:22

by the extremes, the hard left and

27:24

Marine Le Pen's hard right. And the

27:26

Republicans, all that we've seen in the

27:28

psychodrama of the last few days in

27:30

the Republicans Party, I think, is an

27:32

attempt to try and clarify where on

27:34

earth they have a future, if they

27:36

do have a future at all, crushed

27:39

between these big blocks. So

27:41

if you're going to abandon the left, abandon the

27:43

right, create the

27:46

centre, you then have to

27:48

build that party into a

27:50

really potent enduring institutional force.

27:53

And it doesn't seem like Macron's paid

27:55

much attention to building that party.

28:00

One of the weaknesses of his presidency

28:02

has been the institutional structure behind his

28:04

movement, which was so effective for him

28:07

in being elected in 2017 and then reelected in 2020. But he

28:09

hasn't enabled

28:12

that to take root. But I think

28:14

what's also happened is a kind of

28:17

dynamic that's to do with the accelerated

28:19

political cycle. Seven years in power, which

28:21

is what he has been, he's become

28:23

an incumbent that is the

28:25

target of a lot of that time

28:27

for a change feel in the country.

28:30

As seven years is not that long

28:32

in power, but it feels already as

28:34

if people want to see something different.

28:37

And so it's that it's partly about

28:39

the center, but it's also partly, I

28:41

think, about the political cycle. And this

28:43

there's a very strong feeling in France

28:45

at the moment that they want to

28:48

have something different. And that difference is

28:50

probably one of the extremes. Bottom

28:53

line seems to me, again, you

28:55

see the center is weak. The

28:58

far right, the populist right is resurgent. And if

29:00

you're going to take them on and win, you

29:02

have to be very clever, effective

29:05

and lucky as a centrist.

29:09

I think that's right. I mean, it's very difficult

29:11

for the center to hold. We've seen that across

29:13

Europe. It's not impossible. We've seen the return of

29:16

centrists or a center right government in Poland, don't

29:18

forget, after a period of

29:20

a populist government on the right. So it

29:22

isn't impossible, but it's an incredibly difficult case

29:24

to make. And in this era, it

29:27

seems increasingly more so. So that

29:29

is, I think, what Macron is up against is

29:31

what his party is up against. The mood is

29:33

not positive among a lot of the members of

29:36

parliament that I've spoken to. And I've watched on

29:38

the campaign trail. They're saying this is an incredibly

29:40

tough election for them and that

29:42

could end up with really quite

29:44

damaging losses for Macron's party. Sophie,

29:48

always a pleasure to talk to you. Pleasure

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32:27

be 90 or even higher. So it's

32:29

a really persistent change, but

32:31

I think it's something we haven't really noticed

32:33

about. Go back to that two

32:36

or three increase in life expectancy every 10 years.

32:39

That's like saying the end of every day, here's

32:41

another six to eight hours. And I think that

32:43

we don't understand this is really about having more

32:45

time. And what you point out is now we're

32:48

getting into numbers, the

32:51

80s, the 90s, where as

32:53

you point out, things start to break down.

32:55

You point out that we age, you

32:57

know, slowly and then all of a sudden. And that

33:00

all of a sudden part does tend to be sort

33:02

of in the late 70s. Yeah, no,

33:04

I mean, I think the really profound thing is

33:06

now is we are now likely to become old.

33:10

50% of children born in high income countries can expect to

33:12

live into their 90s. But we

33:14

fear getting old, we worry about outliving our

33:16

health, our finances, our

33:19

relationships, our purpose. So

33:21

what do we do now? Because the mistake is

33:23

to think that aging is about something that

33:25

happens when you're very old. It's something that

33:27

happens over the whole of your life. And

33:29

the really good news is not just we're

33:31

living longer and have got more time, but

33:33

we can change how we age. We can

33:35

influence how we age. And that didn't used

33:37

to be important, but it

33:40

really is now. So what are the most important things

33:42

you can do? Because you're right, you say you got

33:44

to start planning now in your

33:46

50s and 60s for how you want to

33:48

age. What are the most

33:50

important things you can do? Well, I mean, there's

33:52

nothing sort of revolutionary. I mean, there's some really

33:54

interesting stuff happening in science and the biology of

33:56

aging, which may transform our future. But

33:58

really, I think we've got to. We've got to focus on three

34:01

things. We already have long lives. We've got

34:03

to make them healthier for longer. You've got to make sure you're

34:05

healthy for as long as possible. And we've got

34:07

to finance a longer life, which means you're going to have

34:09

to be earning for longer. So that

34:11

has big implications about your careers and future proof

34:13

in your careers and how you take care of

34:15

your money and your skills. But of course, health

34:17

is crucial. And there are things we can do

34:20

to age better. And I'm not

34:22

here to tell you anything that you don't know

34:24

already. It's about eating better. It's about not drinking.

34:26

It's about not smoking. It's about not being obese.

34:28

It's about exercising. And the difference

34:30

between people who do those things and

34:33

then those who don't is about 10 years of

34:35

healthy life expectancy. What about how to pay for

34:37

it? I mean, for the first individual, because you're

34:39

right. If you know, I think

34:41

about that sometimes. If you're going to, roughly

34:44

speaking in your 60s, you're going

34:46

to stop working. And you're going to die

34:48

when you're 95. That's 30 years

34:50

where you have to be able to pay the bills. Now, this

34:52

is the bit where everyone doesn't like what I have to say,

34:55

because it's great to say, hey, you can live longer and you

34:57

can be healthier for longer. But if you

34:59

don't want to see a fall in your stand

35:01

of living, you've got to produce more over your

35:03

lifetime. And I think unless AI comes along and

35:05

makes us all much more productive and solves the

35:07

problem, it means we have to

35:09

work for longer. I think people obviously don't

35:11

like that. And I think that's a very

35:13

valid point because you've got to think, well,

35:15

what job can I do that I want

35:17

to do? What's out there that's available? As

35:20

a university professor, it's relatively easy for me to

35:22

carry on working for longer. If I'm a construction

35:24

worker, it's not. I'm going to have to try

35:27

and shift into something different. So careers

35:29

change a great deal with this longer life. But

35:32

you have to start planning, and you may have

35:34

to plan about shifting a career,

35:36

about really thinking about something completely different. Now,

35:38

the heart of my book is to say,

35:40

look, for the first time ever in human

35:43

history, we're going to have a long life.

35:45

So we have to change how we age.

35:47

Take careers, for instance. In the 20th century,

35:49

we invented what I call a three-stage life.

35:51

We invented teenagers, we invented retirement, and we

35:53

have education, work, retirement. And as we're living

35:56

these longer lives into our 90s, we can't

35:58

just stretch that out. not really

36:00

anything you can learn at 20 that's still going to be

36:02

relevant when you're 70 or 80. So

36:05

careers are going to become much more multi-stage.

36:07

You're going to have different jumps and sequences.

36:09

Perhaps sometimes you're working full-time, sometimes part-time. But

36:12

you're going to have to sort of think

36:14

a little bit more ahead and say, well,

36:16

this is what I'm doing for now. What

36:19

comes next? We've got to invest in

36:21

our future more. And that's not about

36:23

money. That's about health, relationships and skills.

36:26

You're a macroeconomist by training. Obviously

36:29

what you're saying has a big budgetary

36:31

implication. Older people work

36:33

less. They draw more in terms of pensions.

36:36

They draw much more in terms of health

36:38

care. How do you make the math

36:40

work? One of the things I'm really worried about, and

36:42

I think every listener should be worried about this as

36:44

well, a reviewer, from the age of 50, in America

36:46

at age 50, about 80% of Americans

36:49

are working. By the age of 65, that's fallen

36:51

to about 30%. And that's not because people

36:54

are choosing retire. They get ill. They have

36:56

to look after someone who's ill. Their

36:59

skills are out of date. There's ageism in the

37:01

workplace. So I think that's really as a macroeconomist

37:03

where we have to focus, how do we keep

37:05

people working from 50 up to the

37:08

current state pension age? What's

37:10

the most optimistic way to look

37:12

at a world in which people

37:15

are living till they're 95 or 100? They're

37:18

working till they're 70? This

37:21

increase in longevity, this increase in the

37:23

number of old people, we call it

37:25

an ageing society, and we talk about

37:27

doom and gloom. It's fewer children lost

37:29

in infancy. It's fewer parents snatched away

37:31

midlife. It's more grandparents meeting their grandchildren.

37:33

This is a phenomenal opportunity if we

37:35

adapt and adjust to the new reality

37:37

we have these longer lives. That's why

37:39

I put it up there with AI

37:41

and climate change, which it never gets

37:44

that attention. Because if we don't adapt

37:46

and adjust, we live a long life

37:48

that's unhealthy, that's worried about money, and

37:50

it can be quite boring. What

37:52

are you going to be doing at age 80? I

37:55

don't know what I'll be doing at 80, but if

37:57

I've got good health, I've got money, good

37:59

relationships. and a sense of purpose, my hero

38:01

itself will have choices. And I think that's

38:03

the key. Pleasure

38:06

to have you on. My pleasure. Long

38:08

life. You too. Next

38:10

on GPS, I will give you a

38:12

sneak preview of my latest documentary, America's

38:14

Mess with Mexico. It's about

38:17

the very complicated relationship between

38:19

the two neighboring nations. Back

38:22

with that in a moment. Earlier

38:30

this month, Mexico elected its first

38:32

female president, Claudia Shanebaum, whose party

38:34

won in a landslide, garnering around

38:36

60% of the votes. Shanebaum

38:40

is set to take office in October

38:42

and may offer a reset in relations

38:44

with her country's neighbor to the north.

38:47

And America's relations with Mexico, especially

38:49

where the southern border is concerned,

38:52

are playing an oversized role in

38:54

the Biden-Trump contest. Tonight,

38:56

I'll examine it all in my

38:59

new documentary, America's Mess with Mexico,

39:01

airing at 8 p.m. Eastern, right

39:03

here on CNN and CNN International.

39:06

I want to show you a

39:08

clip from that special that illustrates

39:10

Mexico's burgeoning importance for America, whose

39:13

southern neighbor is no longer just a

39:15

key player on migration, but

39:17

is also becoming a major economic

39:19

player. Take a look. Mexico

39:23

faces enormous challenges, like migration,

39:25

the drug cartels and corruption,

39:28

but it's also a nation of great

39:30

promise that could be on

39:32

the cusp of a long economic boom.

39:36

JPMorgan's CEO recently said that if

39:38

you had to pick one country

39:40

to invest in, Mexico might be

39:42

the number one opportunity. The

39:44

big reason? Because in the

39:47

great competition between the world's two

39:49

great economic powers, the United States

39:51

and China, the big winner

39:53

could be Mexico. To

39:56

understand why, we need to

39:58

visit a city close to the Texas... border,

40:01

which is at the center of Mexico's

40:03

hopes for a brighter future. Monterrey,

40:11

Mexico is nothing short of a boom

40:13

town these days. It

40:21

resembles Southern California, with

40:23

swanky shopping malls, pricey restaurants,

40:26

and luxury apartments. Outside

40:30

of town, new factories are

40:32

sprouting up everywhere. That's

40:37

because this city of 5

40:39

million, a major industrial hub

40:41

in Mexico, is at the center

40:46

of a massive metamorphosis in the

40:48

world economy. Where

40:55

Mexico is challenging China as

40:57

America's factory. Don't

41:01

miss America's Mess with Mexico tonight

41:03

at 8pm Eastern on CNN and

41:05

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