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answer them on air. Welcome
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to Fearless with Jason Whitlock. I'm Jason Whitlock,
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your host, Happy Wednesday. Thanks
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for joining me. Awesome
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show. Planned for you today.
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I'm going to admit, today's
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show is going to be
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a bit more organic and I
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may even surprise the
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group of guys helping me to put the show together
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every day. I can't say that I'm
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going to follow the script that
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we laid out this morning because
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I'm a bit frustrated and I'm a
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bit, maybe
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a bit too transparent. So I'm going to
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share with the audience what's
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driving me today and what my thinking
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is today and a
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little bit about what's going on with the
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show. And I think I'm
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going to be able to work the themes that
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I want to talk about today
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into my overall frustration
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and it's not with anybody I work with,
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it's not certainly with the audience, it's
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a little bit piggybacking off of what I talked
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about yesterday in terms of like just
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being real. The headwinds
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that are
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being directed, our
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way, my way, the fearless
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way, has
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me pretty frustrated. We
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are doing our best work right
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now. We are
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more involved in the
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conversation. more relevant
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than at any time during
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the history of this show. I'm
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not sure. You
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know, I've had. It's
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tough for me to judge it based off of
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my career. I mean, you know, in 2007,
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2008, I
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don't know if you can be any more relevant than
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what I was as a sports writer and then at
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other points in my career when I was, you know,
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at ESPN or Fox Sports and involved in
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counter. I've been involved in so many different
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things. But here
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in the last six months, last
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throughout all the football season, man, we've
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just been on topics and we've been
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the only ones on topics and
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we've been out ahead of everybody else as
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it relates to Deon Sanders and so many
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different things that
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we're clearly blazing a trail and
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a path and leading
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a discussion that's necessary in
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the sports world and in
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the world at large. And
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obviously the people, the forces
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lined against me, us, and
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this show are aware of that and
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want to do everything they can
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to prevent that, to stop that,
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from to diminish our reach and
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to try to silence our messaging.
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And that's why I started off yesterday's show with,
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hey guys, you got to help me fight these
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algorithms because, you know, from
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my social media feeds to every platform
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I'm on, you know,
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the gatekeepers, the overseers, the people
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in control of the media, the
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people in control of the zeitgeist.
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And I know that sounds narcissistic
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and self-important and perhaps
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arrogant. But
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it's true. They're
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trying to stop the fearless movement.
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They're trying to stop me.
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They've been trying to stop me for a
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long time. I've been at this.
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and fighting and wrestling with this
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group of gatekeepers, the
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people that certainly
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seem determined to
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keep black people in particular,
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thinking a certain way, behaving a certain way.
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This is all the headwinds I got in
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2013, 14, 15, when,
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you know, I was hired back at ESPN
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to run the undefeated. It was all about
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controlling black people's
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thoughts. That's
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all that was about. They were not
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going to allow me to lead
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the undefeated and to have the
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undefeated do real journalism. That
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is not allowed. Real
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journalism isn't allowed, and it's
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a death penalty for black
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journalists. We're
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not allowed to do journalism. We're
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only allowed to shuck-jive,
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be performers, entertainers,
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not thought leaders. We're
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allowed to react to
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what they want us to talk about,
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period, end of story. And
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at the undefeated, I wanted to
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do a more
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journalistic version of what I'm doing now.
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We want to be thought leaders. We want to
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tell people, no, this is what
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you should be discussing and talking about, the
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gatekeepers, the overseers, the people in
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control. Not
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going to happen. We're not
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having that. And that's
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the headwind we're facing now. And
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so today, I'm going to try
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to stay on that topic
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and think, oh, I'm not going to try. I'm going to stay
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on that topic and think. But I'm going to bring up a
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couple of just examples
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of what it is I'm talking about and
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try to get you all to understand. Many of
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you already do understand, but I want you to
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understand why it's important, these things that I'm asking
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for, figuring
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out, taking. the time even if it takes
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a little time you can't bear a how can i
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hit that five star rating on apple is not easy
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take the time figure it out a
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review take the time figure it
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out it's important hit the subscription
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hit the likes on this video
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important because trust me
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they're trying to stop this
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show from reaching a wider wider audience part
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of that i think is because we're
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in an election year and
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the the left the
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gatekeepers the people that control uh...
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black people's thoughts and it's not
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just about controlling black people because
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they use the control of black
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people to silence and
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control everybody else if
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a black person thinks the wrong thing
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there's a lot of local time they're not really
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black joe biden's told you that everybody's told you
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that and then a
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white christian supports
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the wrong thing with their races uh...
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they only like certain kinds of black
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people that that that that
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they use the control of black people
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control black people and
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control everybody else as
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well i'm
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gonna start out today show with this something
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light and i and listen we've had people in
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the show you should talk about things more important
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in sports no i should i i
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need to talk about what i know about and
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and showed you how in the sports world
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all these examples of what they're doing to
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the rest of the culture the rest of
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the entertainment industry the the the rest of
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the media structure you can see it all
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right through the sports land so i'm gonna
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start with a daily dose of steven a
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smith a
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topic we've been hammering uh...
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for a while and i want to show you how
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in order to have the
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region order to have the algorithms in
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order to have the system back
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you, what you must be
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willing to do as
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a black media person. And
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it's what I'm unwilling to do. And
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it's what many of you are unwilling to do.
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But the thing I keep asking you
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every day on this show is, what
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is it that you are willing to
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do? Are
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you willing to do
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a little more, push a little
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harder so that we
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can continue to have growth and
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not be silenced by the
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gatekeepers? And so I
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want to play you, Bobby Burak at
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Outkick covers the media. Bobby's
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a good young man, good
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journalist. You know, he
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points out a lot of the hypocrisies and contradictions
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in the media. And
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this week or yesterday, he wrote
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a story about Stephen
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A. Smith and how Stephen
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A. Smith seemingly had
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two different reactions within
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a span of a week, 10 days to
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Joel M. B., the Philadelphia
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76ers Center, scoring 70 points.
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Joel M. B., black dude, maybe
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he's from Cameroon. I can't remember where Joel
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M. B. is from. He played a year
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of college basketball at Kansas. He's
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a great player, scores 70 points
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for the 76ers. And
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then Luka Doncic, white
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guy from maybe Serbia, you
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know, one of these Eastern European countries or whatever,
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he scores 73 points and
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Stephen A. Trashes Luka
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Doncic's performance or, you know, says
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that Atlanta Hawks played no defense
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in his embarrassment. But when Joel
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M. B., black guy, scores
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70, it's one of the great
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performers. Let's just contrast these two
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comments from Stephen A. Smith about
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Joel M. B., and Luca Donkins.
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Let's play Joel M.D. first. But
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I will tell you this. We're talking about
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M.B. right now. 30 points
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or more in 21 consecutive
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games. And yet, the
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Philadelphia 76ers, winners of 6 straight,
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are still four games out of first place. So
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what this says to me, when I did, the message
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didn't be sent to the rest of
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the NBA. This brother is phenomenal. Arguably
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the best big man in the game.
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Obviously, Jokic always warrants our consideration.
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But the message he sent is that he's
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going for the championship. He's
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not trying to mess around. He already got
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the league MVP. I think that's the
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message he's trying to send. My
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point is, Shannon, that's
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the message he needs to send. Because
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how he's playing is what's
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going to be required in order
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for him to pull this off
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as the Sixers are presently constructed.
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That's the message that I received from
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him. He knows this is what it's
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going to take, and he's willing to
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do it. So everybody beware, because he
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already got the chip. He ain't worried
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about no 65 games, and you know
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whether you qualify for the league MVP
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award. This brother is coming for the
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chip. He wants it bad.
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Let's see what he does come postseason
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time. So
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that's Stephen A. Smith talking about Joel M.B.
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Luca Doncic has been in the league
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five, six years, and playing
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for the Dallas Mavericks, I would think he'd
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won a championship too. But he
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scores 73 points, and it
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provokes this from Stephen A. Smith. The
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Atlanta Hawks, no wonder why y'all
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stink. Did you see how
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they played defense last night? I mean,
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this is not Joel and B. who
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played Billy Wall because you know what
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you haven't seen, Victor Wienbion on you.
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We understand that. We expect that. This
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is not a situation where Carl Anthony
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Towns dropped 58 in the first three
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quarters and disappeared with the APB
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outfit in the fourth quarter in all of the...
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of this other stuff, but the 58 points he
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scored those first three quarters, a lot of those
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points, he was being challenged. This is not that.
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What transpired last night in Atlanta was disgraceful.
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It made me feel like I just got
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to get somebody to don't want you to
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play defense or you got to display your
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offense. You have to play defense. That's what
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the hell took place in Atlanta last night.
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There's a difference. Don't tell me anybody wants
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that. No, you don't want to change it
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and go back to old times, but in
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the same breath, you don't mean for it
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to resemble the first three quarters that NBA
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all star weekend, which is what last night
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looked like in Atlanta, Georgia. The Hawks, you
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should be ashamed of your damn self. You
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really should. So
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anybody that's paid attention to the
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NBA knows
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that what Lucas
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Donkas did and how the Atlanta Hawks
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played. That's par for
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the course in this new NBA. All
12:53
the rules have been doctored and changed.
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The players all make so much money.
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There's so much load management that the
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paint has been opened up in a
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way to promote people driving
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to the lane, uncontested, and
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many regular season NBA games
13:09
look like a
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competitive all star game. They
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look like what NBA all star games used
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to look like in the 1970s and 80s
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and nineties, kind of
13:22
some old lay defense and you can get to the rim
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very easily. Everybody knows this is widespread
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and rampant throughout the NBA for
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Stephen A to sing a single out
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this Atlanta Hawks game and
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Luca Donkits and how, you
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know, the Hawks played Olay
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defense, but Carl Anthony towns
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and Joel Embiid, they
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were phenomenal. They were, you
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know, playing great ball and they were being contained.
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It's a joke and
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it's for, it
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can only Stephen A's. contradictory
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messages here can
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only be defined and described in
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one way, accurately, racist. He's
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got a racist double standard and
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many people in the league, because the
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NBA is a black-dominated
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league, they
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share that view. We saw it and
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I want to be careful because you know
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to some I like and respect Kendrick Perkins,
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but last year,
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Nikola Jokic won
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the NBA championship and should have won
14:36
his third straight MVP award, but
14:38
Kendrick Perkins jumped in and played
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the race card on
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MVP voters and basically you know
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if you guys remember last year
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he basically said that voters or people
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were favoring Nikola Jokic because he's white
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and that put everybody in check and
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the next thing you know Joel Embiid
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won the MVP when everybody
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pretty much knows Jokic was the
15:03
most valuable player and the Nuggets
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went on to win the championship
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and the Philadelphia 76ers bowed out
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as they have done throughout
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Joel Embiid's stay in Philly.
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There's this racism that
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is required, anti-white
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racism that is required
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in the sports media
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world for widespread success
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and acceptance. The
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message is being pushed out very
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clearly. The matrix, the
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internet, that's
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what it rewards, anti-white
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racism. They have designed
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a system for
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systemic racism. They've
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done that and I'll be
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called an Uncle Tom and a cool for
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pointed it out. What
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I will not be called is a liar. I
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will not be called a liar because
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I've been consistent throughout my
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entire 30 year
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career as a journalist. I
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think it's now 34 years. And
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I think if you examine, remove
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the first 12 years of my life,
16:25
44 years just as a human being, I've
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always been against racism.
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When the system was tilted and
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favored white guys
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and discriminated against black guys,
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I complained then. Now
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that the system is tilted
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and is tilted against white
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guys, I still don't
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like racism so I complain now.
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But since I'm off script and
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since the system has been designed
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to punish anybody
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that challenges the anti-white
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narrative that is pervasive throughout
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the American media and
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I don't want white guys running
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around putting themselves on a victim cross.
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Don't do it because
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the reality is this
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assault, this unfairness that the
17:21
system has legalized, it's
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really not about you. It's about
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Jesus Christ. Because
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that's why they've defined Christianity as
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the white man's religion. That's a
17:33
lie. It's not true. Any serious
17:36
Christian knows that. But
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they have defined Christianity
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and fairness and truth as
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something white. And
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so they demonize everything
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white, everything masculine,
17:54
everything that celebrates
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or promotes male leadership. They
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demonize that. all is
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evil and
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racial idolaters like Stephen A. Smith
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and many of the black people
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in the media who are just,
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and I don't even know what
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their eye dollars, they just want to check and
18:14
so they see which way the wind is
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blowing. Well you get money for
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promoting anti-white racism. I
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want money, I'll do it.
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I won't do it, the fearless
18:27
move, we're not about that. We're
18:30
about a set of values and
18:32
those values are being punished and that's why
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I'm sitting here telling you how frustrated I
18:37
am but I
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don't want anybody to
18:42
feel sorry for me or us or
18:44
this show. I
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have moments of frustration but
18:50
I'm not a victim because the
18:52
actual headwinds and persecution when
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I really think about it,
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when I pray at night
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or in the morning or later today
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during our prayer call, it
19:05
actually, when I think it
19:07
through, when I get past my frustration, it
19:10
actually makes me feel good. Again,
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it's in one of those deals where
19:16
if you've ever done a tough workout
19:19
and you've suffered the pain of
19:22
a tough workout, there
19:24
is a tiny bit of satisfaction that you know
19:26
like man, this is going to benefit me down
19:29
the road. It's painful, you
19:32
might complain about it but you know it's
19:34
going to benefit you down the road. That's
19:37
where we're at right now in
19:39
the fearless movement. There's
19:42
some pain, there's discomfort, it's
19:45
frustrating, it makes you
19:47
walk a little funny, it makes it tough
19:49
to sleep at night, you're tossed it and
19:51
turning it, but in your
19:53
heart of heart, there's a mature person, you
19:56
know, this pain is
19:58
an indication that you're doing the
20:00
right thing. And
20:03
so I feel very confident that
20:06
we're doing the right thing. That
20:09
we're put, I hear from you all, I
20:11
hear from other people, I see
20:14
the results, I know what
20:17
we're doing, the topics we're covering, they're
20:19
the right thing. We're
20:21
getting punished for it and
20:24
you know, we're getting, you know, a lot
20:26
of conservators, everybody talks about being
20:28
shadow-banned and I'm not saying that they're
20:30
wrong. But
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I have it in my career
20:35
and in the time, I've been
20:37
on social media since 2009, the
20:40
level of pushback
20:42
against me and
20:45
what I'm doing, it's never been stronger than it
20:47
is right now. And
20:51
that includes like 2013-14
20:54
when people at Deadspin
20:57
were incentivized to
20:59
destroy my character and
21:01
wrote vicious pieces and they
21:03
used social media to
21:06
rig up the system to portray
21:08
me in a certain way. And
21:11
so I've faced stiff headwinds
21:14
like this before but
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this does seem to be on a different level
21:20
and it does, it's happening
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at a time like when I'm
21:24
prolifically putting out work,
21:27
we're putting out work that's right on
21:29
target, done at a high level. I'm
21:32
looking at the
21:34
conversation we had yesterday, the column I
21:36
wrote yesterday trying to explain to people
21:38
like, hey man, cut this Taylor Swift
21:40
stuff out, it's going to backfire. It's
21:42
not the right, it's
21:45
not, I didn't argue yesterday that like,
21:47
hey Taylor Swift's this great person and
21:49
blah blah blah. My
21:51
argument was like, no, you're picking the wrong fight. They're
21:54
going to use this Super Bowl thing to
21:56
discredit you. They're
21:59
going to use the Super Bowl thing to
22:01
say look you're crazy all these people you've
22:03
been saying for the last four to six
22:05
to eight years have Trump derangement syndrome look
22:08
at your tailored arrangement syndrome you're
22:10
just as bad that's what
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I was trying to point out and it's the
22:14
right message and everybody's talking
22:16
about Taylor Swift and I'm trying to
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explain to people like be
22:21
careful here we're in a game of chess you
22:24
know and I'm not saying the vakes not
22:26
a great chess player because I think that
22:28
he is I'm not saying that Jack Posabia isn't
22:30
a great chess player because I think that
22:32
he is but you
22:35
can make mistakes in chess I'd
22:37
love to play chess I make mistakes all the
22:39
time and
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in these waters when it comes to sports
22:45
media and all of that I can see
22:47
it because I've
22:49
been in this fight my entire career
22:53
I'm a bit
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frustrated I'm asking
22:59
specifically for you all to help
23:01
me and to help us and
23:04
they're just small little things the
23:06
sponsors you guys do a great
23:08
job of supporting our sponsors do
23:10
a better job you guys
23:13
do a great job of making sure you
23:15
tap that like button make sure you're given
23:17
that five-star rate do a better job I'm
23:21
going to dig in we're going
23:23
to dig in here and do
23:25
a better job because
23:28
we have to because these head we're in
23:30
an election year the
23:32
their entire Satan's
23:34
when I say say the people
23:37
that don't believe Jesus Christ is their Lord
23:39
and Savior they're
23:41
desperate right now they're panic right
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now the last thing they want
23:47
is a group of Jesus
23:50
Christ believing men to
23:54
ignore all these superficial
23:57
differences that they use to pit
24:00
us against each other. They
24:03
don't want anybody or anything
24:05
that can bring believers together
24:09
in a common
24:11
cause to protect the values that
24:14
made this country great, to protect the
24:19
values that serve your children
24:21
and grandchildren. They
24:23
don't want men putting those differences
24:26
aside, the skin color differences and all
24:29
this other little petty stuff they got
24:31
us caught up in. The
24:33
whole little game they're playing, black
24:36
Christian versus white Christian, black
24:38
versus white, it's all a game. We
24:42
can't give into it and I
24:44
know it's difficult. I know how
24:47
much we've all been programmed to
24:49
talk about things from a white
24:51
black perspective rather
24:53
than from a fairness and unfairness
24:55
perspective. I know that it's
24:58
tough to recognize and
25:03
accept like, man,
25:05
America has set up
25:07
a system of rewards for people who will disavow
25:12
this nation's founding
25:14
principles, who will blame white Christians for everything
25:16
that's wrong in their life, for
25:19
people that will go on platforms
25:22
and lie and distort and smear. They've
25:31
set up a system of rewards for that
25:33
and the people that tell the truth, they set
25:35
up a system to punish them.
25:37
That's what, when you've lived my life and
25:40
my career, when I
25:46
started out, the values that I defend
25:49
here on this show, the objectivity, the
25:52
search for
25:54
truth, the willingness to do things,
25:57
the ability to do things, the ability to do things
26:00
is to stand on truth regardless of
26:02
the consequences. All of that
26:04
stuff used to be rewarded. Now it's
26:08
all punished. I'm
26:11
tell- first 20 years of my career I would say, yeah first
26:13
20 years of
26:17
my- all of that was rewarded. Again,
26:21
there was definitely blowback and
26:23
heat, but the system
26:27
rewarded that. They rewarded people from lying as
26:29
well. But there was a group
26:32
that were like, man we actually need
26:34
the truth and we
26:36
value it to some degree and
26:38
so there's a system of rewards
26:40
for what Whitlock does, that objectivity
26:43
and fairness. Now
26:45
there's nothing but punishment. Speaks
26:48
to how desperate they are and that's why we
26:51
can't give up because they know something.
26:53
They know that this may be their
26:56
last best chance. There's a
26:58
level of desperation here that says
27:00
they know if they don't
27:03
strike right now it may
27:05
be over for them. And
27:08
so we need to stay the course and continue to
27:10
fight. And that's why I want to segue into a
27:14
conversation about Ilhan Omar. Probably a little
27:16
bit of a surprising topic
27:20
for you all, but it's fascinating what's
27:23
going on with Ilhan Omar. She's the squad
27:25
member, the
27:28
congresswoman from Minnesota. She
27:32
was called on tape or someone has played a
27:34
tape of her I
27:37
think speaking in Somalian, whatever,
27:41
I don't know, do Somalians, is that
27:43
what they speak? She's from Somalia, do
27:45
they speak Somalian? I would think, I
27:47
don't know, never been to Somalia, but
27:50
they translated it. And
27:53
we have a congresswoman telling people that we're that
28:01
she answers to the Somalian
28:03
president that she
28:06
serves Somalia first.
28:08
And you wonder why I'm
28:10
America first? We have an
28:12
American congresswoman on tape
28:14
speaking to people talking
28:16
about her loyalty and priorities are
28:19
for another country. Let's play
28:21
the tape. This
29:26
is what I call
29:29
diversity, equity and Ilhan
29:33
because I don't
29:35
want people to single
29:38
out Ilhan Omar. She
29:42
just laid bare what the
29:45
entire diversity, equity
29:47
and inclusion agenda
29:49
is and anybody caught
29:51
up in it. People
29:54
have all these rationalizations and all
29:56
this. Well, it has good
29:58
intentions and it's this. No, it doesn't. Diversity,
30:03
equity, and inclusion is exactly what
30:05
you just saw from Ilhan Omar.
30:09
She's here to disrupt
30:12
America. She's here to
30:14
serve a foreign
30:17
interest. She's
30:19
here to uproot
30:21
the Constitution and the
30:23
freedoms that Americans that
30:26
have served America for more than
30:28
200 years. She's
30:31
not alone. Anybody
30:36
in Congress that knows
30:38
her, that isn't calling
30:40
for her to be deported, kicked
30:43
out of Congress and kicked out of
30:45
this country, that is a person who
30:47
should not be trusted. Diversity,
30:52
equity, and inclusion convinces
30:55
you and convinces
30:57
people like, oh, inclusion
31:00
means we have to
31:03
tolerate and make room for people
31:05
who hate America. Who
31:08
does that? Who
31:11
does that? So let's say you're sitting
31:14
in your home or an
31:16
apartment. And
31:18
so, you know, diversity, equity, and
31:20
inclusion means the
31:23
homeless person or the next
31:25
door neighbor who hates your
31:27
guts. In
31:29
order for you to be inclusive, you
31:31
have to invite them into your
31:34
home. You
31:36
have to let them live and
31:38
have say so over what
31:40
goes on in your home. Inclusion
31:46
means tolerance of
31:49
things that want to destroy
31:51
you in their mind. This
31:55
is diversity, equity, and Ilhan
31:58
diversity, equity, and inclusion. an
32:00
insurrection, this is what
32:02
an insurrection looks like.
32:06
When you have to invite your
32:08
enemies, when you have to make
32:11
room for people who want to
32:13
serve another country, when you have
32:15
to let them become a lawmaker
32:18
and you have to be good with it or
32:20
you're racist. This
32:26
is the America they're building.
32:28
I don't recognize it. I
32:32
don't respect it. Call
32:36
me an old man, because I am, but
32:41
I'm just like, my head is on
32:44
fire. How did
32:46
we get here? That
32:49
a member of Congress would
32:51
be comfortable giving that speech
32:54
and that the American media would
32:57
mostly ignore it, that
33:00
politicians wouldn't be
33:03
heads on fire, shouting at the top of their
33:05
lungs, arrest that woman and get
33:07
her the hell up out of this country.
33:13
But this is diversity, equity,
33:16
and Ilhan. This
33:20
entire movement is about
33:23
destroying America
33:27
and its founding principles. And
33:31
people like me that
33:35
are like, no, no, no, these founding principles,
33:38
I like this constitution. It's worked.
33:40
It's cleaned up a lot of
33:42
messes. It's granted me freedom. It's
33:44
granted me opportunity. It's created a
33:46
place on earth that's the safest
33:49
and most opportunity rich for black
33:51
people anywhere on the planet. I'm
33:53
supposed to be embarrassed for defending
33:55
it? That's
34:00
the game they played on you
34:02
that they've made you think inclusion
34:07
means tolerance of
34:10
values and mindsets and attitudes
34:12
and actions that are intended
34:14
to destroy you No
34:25
This is why as men we
34:28
need as American men We
34:31
need to quit apologizing and put our foot
34:33
down And
34:36
no, I don't want to be that kind of
34:39
inclusive I don't want eon
34:41
Omar Anywhere making
34:44
any laws having any influence over American
34:46
laws. I don't want her in the
34:48
country and
34:52
And anybody that believes in what she's talking
34:54
about. I don't want them in the country
34:56
and and
34:59
the lower are the Ilhan
35:02
lights the Cory bushes and
35:07
Everybody else that's just a Ilhan
35:10
light They
35:12
need to go to All
35:17
the people that have decided that
35:19
they're smarter than the founding documents
35:21
And and and and that all
35:23
the founders are horrible and this
35:25
whole thing needs to be turned
35:27
on its head They're
35:31
idiots and we
35:33
don't have to tolerate them Inclusion
35:37
doesn't mean well The
35:41
very idiots who have built nothing
35:47
We have to be tolerant of them I I'm
35:52
not even saying I've built anything. I'm
35:55
appreciative of what was built.
35:58
That's all I am And
36:02
if you don't have any appreciation
36:05
for what was built here in this
36:07
country, I
36:10
don't think you're very bright. I think you've been
36:13
caught up in some false
36:15
narratives. I think you've been
36:17
programmed and brainwashed and influenced
36:20
into believing things that
36:22
do not serve your best interest.
36:26
It's a fad. I
36:30
believe your gratitude has been removed.
36:33
I believe you have a
36:35
misunderstanding of the
36:38
Bible and Christianity. If
36:42
you're in this country and then look around
36:44
the world and you're not
36:47
filled with a spirit of gratitude, you're
36:52
doing life wrong. And
36:56
I'll say, let's say you're sitting
36:58
in prison right now and you're listening to this.
37:02
You can be in prison in some other places
37:04
that ain't, and I know our prisons
37:06
are horrible, but
37:08
it can be worse. And
37:12
you wouldn't have a right to an attorney. You
37:17
wouldn't have some public defender or
37:20
some great lawyer willing to take you on pro
37:22
bono. It
37:25
can be worse and it is worse, a lot of
37:27
places. And
37:29
that doesn't mean America is perfect
37:32
and not in need of tweaking and
37:34
not in need of, but, I,
37:42
the entire system, the
37:44
Internet has rigged a
37:47
system for destruction of
37:49
America and American values. And
37:53
we sit here as the fearless
37:55
army and we have
37:57
to recognize we're operating in
37:59
a system that's designed to
38:02
destroy us. What
38:05
are we willing to do to push back? That's
38:10
my question for today.
38:12
That's what I wanted to get off my
38:14
chest today. We're gonna
38:18
bring on Anthony and
38:20
Virgil because six
38:25
people here in Nashville
38:27
were convicted for
38:30
protesting at a
38:32
abortion clinic and
38:36
they were convicted yesterday and they face
38:38
up to ten and a half years
38:40
in federal prison. There's
38:43
some law called face.
38:48
F-A-C-E freedom.
38:52
Let me hold on before I go. Let me make sure
38:54
I call this right and set
38:56
up this conversation right but I want to
38:58
get Anthony and Virgil's
39:00
because these laws
39:03
have been on the
39:05
book. These laws
39:07
have been
39:09
on the book since 1994 and
39:13
I just
39:17
yeah. Freedom of
39:19
access to clinic entrances
39:21
act. It's been on the
39:24
books since President Bill Clinton in 1994. These
39:29
people were charged with this crime in 2021,
39:31
convicted yesterday. Obviously
39:36
you guys know about our relationship
39:38
with pre-born and where we stand
39:40
on abortions. I want to have
39:42
a conversation. Virgil has protested
39:45
at abortion clinics previously
39:48
so I just want to get their
39:50
thoughts on as Christians.
39:55
I believe commanded to follow the
39:57
laws that our government sets up.
40:01
But what's the line in
40:03
terms of our government is bending
40:05
over backwards and has been since 1994,
40:08
what's that, 30 years, to
40:10
make sure that everybody has access to go
40:12
in and kill a baby without anyone
40:15
praying for them or singing spiritual
40:17
songs or blocking an entrance. These
40:21
people face 10 and a half years in prison.
40:23
We watch people in the
40:25
name of George Floyd block
40:28
entrances to facilities, burn down buildings and
40:30
I'm not aware of any of these
40:32
guys facing 10 and a half years
40:35
in prison, but we'll talk with Anthony
40:37
and Virgil about it next on Kennedy
40:39
Harmony. Well,
41:03
what about Tennessee, Tennessee
41:05
Harmony, Virgil and Anthony
41:08
are here. Anthony, if you
41:10
could get us started with a prayer. Father,
41:12
God, we thank you for today. We
41:14
thank you for your blessings. Father bless
41:17
this conversation that we have about such
41:20
a serious matter. Help us to bring to
41:22
it grace and truth and
41:24
we thank you for those that are watching.
41:26
We pray that they are edified by our
41:28
discussion in Christ's name we pray. Amen.
41:31
Amen. So as I said
41:33
before you guys came on air, six
41:36
people right here in Nashville, Tennessee
41:40
convicted yesterday for violating the freedom
41:43
of access to clinic entrances act.
41:46
This bill or this law was put into action
41:49
in 1994. You
41:52
can't disrupt basically the
41:54
ongoing the coming and going
41:56
at an abortion clinic. And
41:58
so laws. bit on the book, but
42:02
as believers, you
42:05
know, I think we're commanded, I feel like we're
42:07
commanded to follow the laws of our country, but
42:11
we're also commanded
42:14
to protect the unborn
42:16
or children in the womb. And
42:19
so what, what, we'll just
42:21
start here with just a vague or
42:23
general question, Anthony, when you read this
42:25
story about these six
42:27
individuals, what are the
42:29
first thoughts that went through your mind? So
42:32
initially there's two departments
42:34
of this, two, two factions of this.
42:36
One, you have whether the law
42:38
is a good law or not. And
42:41
the thing that I use to determine whether
42:43
a law is good or not, a good
42:45
law protects freedoms of bad
42:48
law tends to try to give
42:50
freedoms. God has already given freedom.
42:53
So when you, when you set up a
42:55
law that tries to, Hey, we want to give
42:57
a freedom of this or that. Yeah. Yeah. A
42:59
good law. Where did you come up? Where did
43:01
you come up with that? Or what, what? Just
43:03
looking at, at laws, there's,
43:05
there's thinking about it, looking it up,
43:07
man. Huh. Anyway, I'm sorry. Go ahead.
43:10
Yeah. So that's, that's the first thing
43:12
we can obviously see. This is a
43:14
law that's trying to give more access
43:16
to abortion clinics. But the
43:18
second side of this is the point
43:20
that you bring up, which is obeying
43:22
the laws of the land. Yes,
43:25
we are commanded to obey
43:27
the laws of the land. Paul tells us
43:29
in Romans that we've
43:31
got to follow the laws. He
43:34
tells us again, Peter tells us in first Peter
43:37
to be good citizens. But
43:40
here's a good point that scripture indicates
43:42
in acts chapter five, there
43:44
is a point where obeying the
43:46
laws of the land can interact
43:48
with and interfere with obeying what
43:50
God says. And Peter tells
43:53
us in acts five and 29, we
43:55
must obey God rather than
43:57
man. So whenever we are
43:59
faithful, with that crossroads of, okay, what do we
44:02
do? I got to obey God. Now, you
44:04
also have to take into account that
44:07
making that stance will cost you.
44:10
Now, to the Christian, we already know,
44:13
obeying Christ, we're already
44:15
making sacrifices. We're already going to have
44:17
to pay some costs. So that's going
44:19
to come with it. The problem is
44:21
that sometimes we're not really there
44:23
to follow it all the way through. You know,
44:25
if it means I'm going to lose my job,
44:27
then I'm not going to do
44:29
it. If it means I'm going to lose
44:31
friends, if it means I'm going to be
44:34
locked up, I'll stop. But if you're really
44:36
committed to obeying God, you already count that
44:38
in the cause. We could be arrested for
44:40
this. We could be sentenced to jail. It's
44:42
a bad law, but hey, I'm going to
44:44
do it because I'm obeying God. No different
44:46
than people during the
44:48
times of slavery that disobeyed the
44:51
laws and faced the consequences for
44:53
that. Sure. We call those people
44:55
heroes. Yeah. So I
44:57
think what these guys are doing are pretty heroic,
44:59
but Virgil, I know you've done some
45:02
of this. What were your thoughts? Now
45:04
I'm with you. I'm very sensitive to
45:06
hearing stories like this because I've spent
45:08
a number of years engaged in this
45:10
very kind of thing at abortion meals.
45:13
And so, you know, for a good
45:15
portion of my Christian
45:17
walk back in the day, I
45:20
would spend, you know, a Saturday, a
45:22
week early on, and
45:24
then, and then would dedicate more, you
45:27
know, one Saturday a month in front of an
45:29
abortion meal. I did that in Omaha, Nebraska
45:32
at the abortion meal there. And so I
45:34
totally get it. I think initially when I,
45:36
when I went there, I would, I would
45:38
make sure that I knew what the laws
45:40
were. Be, I did
45:42
my best to follow those laws and
45:45
see, ensure that while I was there,
45:48
I was not only engaging in just simply
45:50
help to save a baby or
45:53
to keep a mother from murdering her child, but, but
45:55
also to share the gospel because at the end of
45:57
the day, the only thing that was going to heal
45:59
the human. heart is the message
46:01
of the gospel. So I looked at it as
46:03
an opportunity to bring the gospel into conflict with
46:05
the culture. Those
46:08
who were driving by needed to know that
46:10
murders were happening in the building that I
46:12
stood in front of. But
46:14
those who were coming to murder their children needed
46:16
to know that Christ already
46:19
paid a price for their sin and
46:21
that they didn't need to cover up
46:23
their sin by murdering their child. So
46:25
those kinds of things were important. As
46:28
it pertains to what these folks
46:30
are doing, I think Brother Anthony
46:32
hit it out of the ballpark.
46:34
He nailed every facet of this
46:36
issue that I thought through. A, is
46:38
it a just law? B, if
46:41
you've made the decision that based
46:44
upon your own conscience, you
46:46
were going to break what you knew was
46:48
the law, then you would
46:50
be willing to pay the price.
46:52
And I think it requires, unfortunately
46:54
in our day, it requires more
46:56
Christians to step up to take
46:59
a stand to examine the cost and be
47:01
willing to pay those. Now on the flip
47:03
side of that, you can't
47:05
be upset about what the government has
47:07
decided to do and say, well,
47:10
they didn't do the right thing or what
47:12
have you. You've got to rejoice in the
47:14
fact that you decided to be there and
47:16
you have to rejoice in the fact that
47:19
the government decided to uphold the law and
47:21
perhaps you'll be in prison. That is a
47:23
part of counting the cost. I
47:26
think all of what they did
47:28
should apply pressure to government for
47:30
them to examine whether or not,
47:32
you know, abortion is just
47:35
in our land and whether or not
47:37
we should protect the least of these,
47:39
right? The young child in the womb,
47:42
that's exactly what these people were doing. I
47:44
don't fault them for what they were doing
47:46
at all. Last thing I'll say about that
47:48
and I'll turn it back over to you
47:51
guys is my other concern is I wanted
47:53
to know, and it was difficult to determine
47:55
whether or not these folks were connected to
47:57
a local church. And the reason
48:00
that is oftentimes I've been in
48:02
this environment where we, uh, those who
48:04
do this kind of ministry will just
48:06
kind of decide one day, Hey, I'm
48:08
going to go do this and
48:10
go down to the local abortion clinic, but
48:12
they won't have the protection of, of,
48:15
of churches and of elders who are, who are
48:17
examining what they're doing, who are challenging what they're
48:19
doing when they get out of line. They need,
48:22
they need the church, the local church to be
48:24
connected with them. Now I don't know whether or
48:26
not these people were, or were not connected to
48:28
a local church. Let's just assume the best that
48:30
they were. That's critically important. Now let
48:32
me, let me add a little bit of information.
48:34
Let me, I think what
48:36
I've read, I think one of the people was
48:38
from Nashville, but the rest were from
48:41
around the country. So
48:43
maybe they were working with a local church here,
48:45
but I don't think they were residents here. So
48:48
go ahead and continue. No, I, I,
48:50
I appreciate that, that, that info, that,
48:52
that kind of thing is important because
48:55
often in this kind of environment, uh,
48:57
where people can, you know, get notoriety if
49:00
you know, and get attention, uh, I think
49:02
it's critically important that these people are connected
49:04
to a local church to keep them accountable
49:06
in these instances. So those are, those are
49:08
kind of my, my general thoughts about, about
49:11
it. Initially seeing the story as
49:13
it unfolded. Verder,
49:16
do you know anything about the law
49:18
and, and, you know, enacted in 1994,
49:20
do there is, as
49:25
I set and thought through it this
49:27
morning and yesterday, it's like, I get
49:29
why they have this law because people
49:32
have targeted abortion clinics
49:34
for bombings and other acts of
49:36
violence. And so I, I
49:38
get why they have this
49:41
law. Do you have good law, bad
49:43
law? Yeah, no, no, it was, it
49:45
was, you're, you're spot on in the
49:48
70s, uh, in eighties,
49:50
uh, Jason, there was, there was, it was
49:52
called the rescue movement. Uh, and
49:54
what the rescue movement did was they did these
49:56
very kinds of things. They would show up in
49:58
mass and block the entrances. to
50:01
abortion clinics. There were some who were kind
50:03
of, you know, went
50:05
out and did things that they shouldn't. There
50:07
was violence perpetrated against these buildings and the
50:09
like, and so folks thought that that was
50:11
the right way to go about it. That's
50:14
one of the reasons why I emphasize the
50:16
importance of these people, if
50:18
they're gonna go out and do this, being connected
50:20
to a local church to whom they can
50:22
be accountable. We are a
50:24
people of laws, right? And as believers in
50:26
Christ, we should uphold the laws as Anthony
50:28
laid out. So
50:30
when you do that kind of thing,
50:33
it causes reactions. So what happened in
50:35
the 90s was the legislators and those
50:37
who were deciding about how
50:40
to protect the women who
50:42
were wanting to have abortions,
50:44
decided that they needed legislation.
50:46
So this is when
50:49
the FACE Act came into place,
50:52
freedom of access to
50:54
clinics and entrances came into place. And
50:56
so I think it was done under
50:59
Bill Clinton. He signed off
51:01
on the law and it was
51:03
in place. And what it allowed to
51:05
happen was it allowed for the actions
51:08
taken to be federally
51:10
enacted. In other words, this was not
51:12
a misdemeanor anymore. Like a lot of
51:14
times folks would interact with police, it'd
51:16
be a misdemeanor, they'd go away, but
51:18
now you're talking about felony and very
51:20
serious charges at that. So again, counting
51:22
the cost is incredibly important. I've been
51:24
at abortion mills where folks would try
51:26
to make claims that you
51:28
crossed the line, that you did something
51:30
you weren't going to do. So it was
51:33
imperative. I wore a camera on my chest
51:36
for the very purpose of protecting myself when
51:38
I was out in those spaces so that
51:40
if someone made a claim that I did
51:42
something or
51:44
someone perpetrated violence toward me, I
51:46
had it on camera and you
51:48
could see what transpired. So
51:52
Anthony, what advice
51:55
would you give your congregation or
51:58
just fellow Christians What
52:00
are the one, two, three, four things
52:03
we should be doing
52:06
regularly to support our
52:08
pro-life position? So it
52:10
has to be well thought out. If
52:12
you're going to take the step towards going
52:15
to these abortion clinics and doing these
52:18
types of things, you've got
52:20
to think way beyond this moment. And
52:22
sometimes when you are being led by
52:24
the spirit and you're being moved by
52:27
your conscience, you say, okay, I got
52:29
to do this. That's good. But
52:31
we've got to also use the wisdom that God
52:33
has given us to think it through. So have
52:36
a plan of execution and think
52:38
not just about that moment, because
52:40
there are so many moments that come before and
52:42
after. I've known those who have gone
52:45
to abortion clinics who, yes, we're trying
52:47
to prevent the abortions and we're trying
52:49
to help and counsel, but then there
52:51
are also those who are counseling those
52:53
who just have had an abortion, who,
52:55
man, because of what they're going through,
52:57
because of the guilt, because of where
52:59
they are in space. Man, we've got
53:01
to help you to get even better
53:04
in your space. So
53:06
it's a holistic thought, thinking it through, coming
53:08
up with a plan. As
53:11
Virgil pointed out, if there are organizations
53:13
making sure that they're tied with a
53:15
church that has oversight
53:17
over this, that has protections
53:20
for you, and obviously be
53:22
prepared, expect the
53:24
best, but be prepared for it to
53:26
go potentially to prison. Let
53:28
me say this too about what's happening
53:31
more recently with this FACE Act. It
53:34
was initially, obviously, about blocking
53:36
entrances, but now
53:38
they're tacking on other dimensions to this
53:40
to say, man, you are causing harm
53:43
to these people because
53:45
they cannot express their freedom. And
53:48
so they're tacking on other stuff on top of it. Even
53:51
if you were, let's say you're at
53:53
a particular boundary way beyond the clinic
53:55
limits, and you
53:57
just want to holler at them as they're
54:00
protected. pulling in, well now they'll say
54:02
you are blocking the person behind them.
54:04
So you may have more than one count
54:06
of this versus just you having them. So
54:09
it's getting really, they're getting very strategic.
54:11
And as the scripture indicates us,
54:13
we must be as
54:15
crafty as serpents, but humble as
54:17
doves. So Virgil, part
54:19
of me
54:21
trying to be crafty is it's why I like pre-born
54:26
and I like taking the
54:28
proactive step of like I'm supporting
54:31
someone who's just trying to give
54:33
a woman access to
54:36
an ultrasound so that she's
54:38
more informed about, no,
54:40
that's a baby. Don't let them trick you into
54:42
thinking that's a clump of sales. And
54:44
then the other thing I like about pre-born, and this
54:47
is not a commercial for pre-born, but yes it is,
54:49
is that they also provide support the
54:51
first two years of that baby's life outside
54:53
of the womb. And so it's not just
54:56
the, Hey, you had a baby and you're
54:58
off on your own. And so that's
55:01
in, you know, that's why I
55:03
love pre-born. I think it's a way, but,
55:05
but what are other ways we
55:07
can help fight this
55:09
war that we have about the
55:12
sanctity of life? No, I
55:14
love, I love what you're saying in this with
55:16
pre-born Matt, what, what, what
55:18
Anthony is saying as well. I think what
55:20
I've learned in this process is that there
55:22
are a variety of different things
55:24
that people can do. I
55:26
had, you know, I'd watched some videos, a dear
55:28
friend of mine by the name of Tony Miano, and
55:32
a pastor here, one of the deacons
55:34
rather here at the
55:36
church that I attend, Bobby McCreary, they
55:38
go out regularly to the abortion
55:40
meal. I was moved to go be at that
55:42
frontline. I wanted to be a voice
55:46
for the voiceless. I wanted to preach the
55:48
gospel. I wanted to rescue those
55:50
who were being led to the slaughter and
55:54
so that was my motivation, but others, there were,
55:56
there are other people who want to do something,
55:58
but don't feel compelled to be in it. that
56:00
space. And I think it's important that we
56:02
don't shame those folks, right? I think a
56:04
lot of times when you're in
56:06
the heat of the things and you're on the front
56:08
line, so to speak, the idea is, well, if everybody's
56:10
not doing what I'm doing, then they're not doing anything.
56:13
And the reality is that we need everybody to be
56:15
doing something. I would have people who would never go
56:18
to the clinic with me, but who knew
56:20
that I was headed there who would
56:22
pray for me. That was critically
56:24
important. I had people at
56:26
the church. That's why I say it's important to
56:28
be connected with a local church who would call
56:30
me and say, if you ever find a young
56:32
lady who's in need of housing, maybe
56:35
her boyfriend is in a bad situation and you
56:37
know, she's in a bad situation and needs a
56:39
place to stay. Call me.
56:41
I had people who if someone
56:44
needs some money and we can do it in
56:46
a discreet way and we find out we bid
56:48
everything. We did that all
56:50
the way up through and to Jason
56:52
adoption. I had people on the phone,
56:54
literally a phone call away from me
56:57
that if I, so I would, I'm at
56:59
the abortion, I can tell a young lady,
57:01
don't go inside. There's someone who loves you
57:03
and cares about you and wants to care
57:05
for your baby. Would love to, will have
57:07
to work with you to adopt your child.
57:09
Let me give you a real choice rather
57:11
than the one that you think you have
57:13
to do, which is to murder your child in
57:15
the womb. You don't have to do that today.
57:17
So I could call out to them and then
57:20
share with them the message of the gospel. The
57:22
whole reason that I was there was because Christ
57:24
came, lived the perfect life and died of death.
57:26
I could not, I could not die on my
57:28
own, right? And pay for my own sins, but
57:31
that they didn't have to cover up their sin
57:33
by murdering their child. But this was an opportunity
57:35
for them to, to, to see God's hand in
57:37
their lives. And so it was a wonderful way
57:39
to do it. A lot of different people are
57:42
part of that process. It requires everybody
57:44
at every different phase, engaging
57:46
and acting. And, and you know, if, if
57:49
none of those things appeal, then men are
57:51
pre-born as an option. There are other ways
57:53
to do it, but I do believe all
57:55
of us need to be engaged in this
57:57
very important issue. Gentlemen,
58:03
I don't, only
58:05
because Anthony's a sports
58:08
fan and so I'm putting a period
58:10
on that conversation. I don't want anybody
58:12
to get upset when I transition to
58:14
a lighter bit of a conversation. I'm
58:16
doing this mostly for Anthony's benefit because
58:18
he's a big time sports fan. Anthony,
58:21
I do, I want your thoughts as
58:24
a sports fan and a little bit as a minister.
58:26
What do you think about this Taylor Swift controversy? Oh
58:29
my goodness, it is, it's
58:32
overblown. I
58:34
think the NFL, right
58:36
now because we're in such a trend space,
58:38
the NFL is obviously going to lean into
58:41
it. It's making them money, etc. But
58:44
the fans are seeing through that. And
58:47
so that's why it's such a turn off
58:49
because now I have to watch a football
58:51
game and every time Kelsey makes a catch,
58:53
every time that she's do well, it
58:56
is their story, their this, that and the other.
58:59
I mean, if it's a genuine relationship,
59:01
if you know celebrities, if it's genuine,
59:03
if it's real, God
59:05
bless. But I would hate for it to
59:07
turn sour because then we've been duped
59:09
into this all sports season long. Part
59:12
of me says in virtual, I
59:14
know you're a sports fan too, so chime in
59:16
here. But part of me is like, Hey man,
59:19
for years I would see
59:21
him pan into the stands
59:23
and there'd be some fat guy like me
59:25
with his shirt off. Boy like,
59:27
yeah. And I was like, I
59:29
think I'd rather see Taylor Swift than me with my
59:32
shirt off. Oh, come on,
59:34
man. That was football. That's what
59:36
you, that's what you knew that they expect. When
59:38
you pan through, you're going to see all
59:40
the cheese heads. You're going to see the
59:43
fat guy with his shirt off. That's the
59:45
game. But this is like, okay, every time
59:47
he catches every, if they just score it,
59:49
he doesn't even have to catch it. They
59:51
pan up to her to see her smile
59:53
and to see her interacting. It's a little
59:55
bit too much. Virgil. This
59:58
is a, this is a sigh out, man. is an
1:00:00
absolute psy-op. It's
1:00:03
gearing up for an election
1:00:05
cycle when she, she's, not
1:00:08
that her popularity needed more of a boost,
1:00:10
but in front of those NFL fans now,
1:00:12
she's in front of them and can, when
1:00:14
she begins to push her left wing agenda
1:00:17
on everybody, it'll be something that, they've
1:00:19
warmed up to her a little bit
1:00:21
as they've watched her cheer for Kelsey
1:00:24
and the Chiefs and all of that.
1:00:26
I just, I think it's an overblown
1:00:28
psy-op, it's irrelevant, we should
1:00:30
ignore it, but I know we won't, it's
1:00:32
the nature of where we are in the culture
1:00:34
today, it's a sad shame. It
1:00:37
emasculates the game
1:00:39
of football, absolutely emasculates the game of
1:00:41
football. I
1:00:44
agree a little bit there, I
1:00:47
don't think she's gonna have any impact
1:00:49
on the election and I
1:00:52
just, I think people
1:00:55
have just made a mistake complaining about it. It's,
1:00:58
who else, who else? Who else? We
1:01:01
do that with any other celebrity
1:01:03
couple. Yeah! No, no, it's
1:01:05
only Taylor Swift. How
1:01:07
many youth sports all your life,
1:01:10
how many pro football players have
1:01:12
dated actresses and all that, then
1:01:14
they have come to the game, sometimes they
1:01:16
just sit in the box, anyway, it's just
1:01:18
because it's Taylor Swift. How many Lakers games
1:01:20
do I gotta look at Jack Nicklefu? That
1:01:22
way it comes to every game. Completely different,
1:01:24
and completely different arena, they don't do that
1:01:26
with every other arena. I've been
1:01:28
to sports games where there are celebrities, they
1:01:31
do that in LA, because that's a part of
1:01:33
LA, they do it in Madison Square Garden, but
1:01:35
they don't do it everywhere else. They're gonna follow
1:01:37
her wherever the game goes. It's just
1:01:39
Taylor, it's not, all
1:01:41
these other celebrity couples, they're panning up
1:01:44
there for Taylor because she has made
1:01:46
them about, what, $300 million, I
1:01:48
think? Allegedly.
1:01:50
Yeah, allegedly. Well, I know
1:01:52
for a fact, I'm not gonna have a comment, because
1:01:55
I don't wanna bait Virgil into,
1:01:57
you know, lying. Shake
1:02:00
it off and Taylor Swift is on
1:02:03
Virgil's playlist. Oh, I know. He
1:02:08
is a Swifty. I don't understand why he's
1:02:10
taking on like this. Anyway,
1:02:14
we'll play some harmony. I'm not even going
1:02:16
to comment. Go ahead, Virgil. No, I've got
1:02:18
zero to say about that. All
1:02:21
right, he's a Swifty. All right, we'll play some
1:02:23
harmony and we'll see you tomorrow. Come
1:03:00
on, baby. Come
1:03:02
on, baby. Come on,
1:03:05
baby. I'm
1:03:08
a neighbor. Are
1:03:11
you a lover? I wanna be
1:03:15
a lover. I'm a neighbor. You
1:03:20
are my lover.
1:03:23
You are my lover. Oh,
1:03:27
baby, so much older. I'm
1:03:29
gonna do something more. I
1:03:32
wanna be a lover. I
1:03:35
wanna be a lover.
1:03:38
I'm here to give you a
1:03:40
love. I'm a
1:03:43
neighbor. Oh, you have
1:03:45
to tell me. I wanna tell you
1:03:47
now. I
1:03:49
wanna be a lover. Oh,
1:03:57
no. tone
1:04:09
ya oh
1:04:35
wow oh
1:04:43
yeah oh
1:04:53
oh
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