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The drinking in

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sacrifice one of the three of you to prevent the

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apocalypse.

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times, for every know you give us.

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Blades will perish.

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Save your family. I'm only fairly

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sad or saved humanity. They

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could choice and I'll get the cabin only

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in theaters February third, where did our

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under seventeen out of mid without parent.

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Reese's peanut butter cups are the greatest, but

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let me play devil's advocate here. Let's eat.

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So, no, that's a good thing.

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That's definitely not a problem.

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Breases you did it. You up

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to this German devil. Now

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the final category. Here

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are the ten nominees the best

0:51

motion picture of the year.

0:57

What kind of a show are you guys putting on here

0:59

today? You're not interested in them? No.

1:01

Look, we're going to do this thing. We're going to have a conversation.

1:06

From Chicago, this is film spotting.

1:08

I'm Josh Larsen, and I'm Adam Kempenar.

1:11

Here with you. Recording bright

1:13

and early in the morning, Josh, are first

1:16

ever reaction shot podcast.

1:18

We're gonna give you our quick reactions to

1:21

the Oscar nominations. I

1:24

can't remember the last time I actually got

1:26

up and watched the Oscar

1:28

nominations. Usually, they're just filtering

1:30

in via Twitter over

1:32

the course of the morning. I did actually

1:35

pay attention, made a few mental

1:37

notes, and we're gonna share

1:39

our five

1:40

takeaways. I wonder how many of them

1:42

we have in common. I'm sure we'll have a couple.

1:44

But yeah, I wanted to hear how

1:46

you felt about doing this. I

1:49

I haven't done it this way in a couple years,

1:51

but it used to be an annual

1:53

thing. Getting up early, having

1:55

to, you know, for the newspaper, do something.

1:57

Kind of fun. It's kind of exciting. Right? I know

1:59

you're a bit, you know, not quite as into

2:02

the Oscars maybe as

2:04

me, but I don't know. I kinda

2:06

like getting in early and being part of the conversation.

2:08

You doing okay this early? I'm doing

2:11

okay. It was a lot to try

2:13

to cram in just when you thought

2:15

you had your ideas down, something

2:18

new crept in, but let's see how it goes. Let's

2:20

really see what people think. Okay. So

2:22

we did decide in the parlance of

2:24

film spotting that we would come up with

2:26

our top five quick takeaways

2:29

from the Oscar nominations. Go ahead.

2:31

Kick it off, Josh. Your number five. My number

2:33

five is Hollywood's message

2:35

here to

2:36

moviegoers. Overall seems to be

2:39

get your butts in theaters. I

2:41

was surprised that a

2:43

couple of big screen experiences

2:46

were rewarded with some of the biggest nominations.

2:48

So if you look at the best picture category.

2:51

I just revisited Top Gun Maverick a

2:53

couple days ago and, you

2:55

know, still liked it. Was

2:58

kind of, you know, iffy on how much

3:00

nostalgia is there, honestly didn't

3:03

think it would get a best picture. I thought,

3:05

okay, I can see in some other category It's probably

3:07

gonna get a nomination. But the best

3:09

picture, Nam, came its way. I was

3:11

very surprised to see Avatar the way

3:13

of water. Get a best picture

3:15

nomination as well. And

3:17

those are two films that that's

3:20

one of the first couple of things people said about

3:22

them as well, you gotta see it in a theater. Right?

3:24

That that was part of the whole conversation. And

3:27

even if you look beyond those two, everything

3:29

everywhere all at once, another best picture nominee,

3:32

and Elvis, I would say too, you

3:34

could describe as big screen and

3:36

maybe in the case of those particularly

3:39

communal experiences. Seeing

3:42

everything everywhere all at once with a packed theater

3:44

was one of the movie highlights of

3:46

the year. And so that's one takeaway I

3:48

saw in some of these larger

3:51

nominations is Hollywood is

3:53

recognizing those movies that dared

3:55

to be movies in twenty twenty

3:56

two. Yeah. I think that's a

3:59

great point. And I suppose I

4:01

feel a little bit left out

4:03

that those two

4:05

big movies in particular. You mentioned, I

4:07

agree. I had a wonderful theatrical experience

4:09

with everything everywhere all at once, but

4:11

I was little down on both top gun maverick

4:14

relative to the rest of the populace

4:16

and Avatar Way of

4:18

Water. So I didn't have those joyous

4:21

theatrical experiences that so many

4:23

people did. Yeah. You're still recovering from way of

4:25

water. So I I don't expect you to be too

4:27

excited about that one. In terms

4:29

of some of my takeaways. I'm probably

4:32

gonna focus a little bit more on positives

4:34

here than negatives. And what I mean

4:36

is are there choices in some categories

4:39

that make me shake my head a bit? Of course,

4:41

that happens every year, but that's more

4:43

about taste than anything else.

4:45

So I'm not going

4:47

to focus on those especially when

4:50

we're gonna do a show later as we get closer

4:52

to the Oscars where will suggest

4:54

what should have been nominated and will remove

4:57

something at that time. A nomination I'm

5:00

extremely excited about, though, my first

5:02

takeaway, I'm calling it

5:04

support the causeway. I

5:06

was in early on Brian

5:08

Tyree Henry, and that performance

5:11

in particular was among

5:13

my top five nominees

5:15

for best supporting actor on my Chicago

5:18

Filmspotting Association ballot. I

5:20

think a lot of people recognize him as

5:22

one of our best actors. And

5:25

when he appears on screen in anything, we're

5:27

happier and we're better off for

5:29

it. His first nomination. I

5:32

think he's gonna get many more

5:34

over the course of his career. And

5:36

I know this is a film, Josh, that

5:39

or I believe this is a film Josh that you still

5:41

haven't caught up with. A

5:43

lot of people missed this movie, just

5:45

played on Apple TV, I think

5:48

one benefit of this

5:50

nomination is that people

5:52

like you and a lot of others out

5:54

there who maybe slipped on this little

5:56

film are now

5:59

going to be rewarded. You know how it

6:01

happens this time of year. There's always homework to do.

6:03

We both have some homework to do beyond

6:06

causeway for you. And sometimes, we

6:08

dread it a little bit. It might be the subject

6:10

matter. It might be just that, oh, it's that

6:13

Oscar nominated thing, the prestige thing,

6:15

I feel like I have to watch. But I've avoided

6:17

it this long for a reason. Well,

6:19

Causeway isn't one of those films. That's not something

6:21

you have to worry about, Josh. You're actually

6:24

going to get to spend time with

6:26

not only Brian Tyree, Henry's

6:28

character in his performance, but Jennifer Lawrence

6:31

as well didn't get a nomination,

6:33

but was among my favorite performances

6:35

by an actress this year. So I'm excited

6:37

for people like you who are gonna get to

6:39

see this movie finally and see

6:41

what a great performance this

6:43

was. Yeah. You did talk both of them up when we

6:45

did our COGafim critics ballot show,

6:47

and I haven't seen Causeway since

6:50

then. So now I feel doubly bad about

6:52

that. We'll definitely catch up

6:54

with it. Your note about, you know,

6:56

positivity. I think that is helpful.

6:59

I agree there are snubs to my

7:01

mind too. Maybe we'll touch on those down the

7:03

road. But I always have to remind myself

7:05

that, you know, if if I if anyone

7:07

is a fairly serious cinepile, never

7:09

go into the Oscars expecting your

7:12

tastes or your favorites to be validated.

7:14

That is not what this that is not what this

7:17

body is about. They are looking for

7:19

different things. So I agree with you.

7:21

I tend to try to look

7:23

for the silver linings when these

7:25

nominations come out. Now

7:28

speaking of homework that we have to do,

7:30

my second takeaway, I

7:32

guess, I'm gonna be watching all quiet

7:34

on the western front.

7:36

Every year, every year there is a

7:38

best picture nominee at least one

7:40

that I haven't seen. And

7:42

this is it. I've got all the others covered, but

7:44

this is the one I do have to catch up with. You

7:47

are a huge fan of this, Adam.

7:49

I'm trying to remember would

7:51

this if you saw this before we did

7:53

our top ten of the year show or if you caught up with

7:55

afterwards. And if you caught up with it

7:57

afterwards, do you think it would have cracked that

7:59

list for you? Because I know you're very high on it.

8:02

I'm very high on it. It would

8:04

not have made my top ten. At this point, I

8:06

haven't seen anything that would change

8:08

my top ten. And I have seen a few things since

8:10

we recorded that show. And I've seen some really

8:13

good things. Since we recorded that show.

8:15

It would be somewhere though in that top fifteen

8:17

to twenty. I haven't ranked beyond the

8:19

top ten. The impetus for

8:21

me to watch it really was preparing

8:24

for the wrap party. It

8:26

was two things. Preparing for the wrap party It's

8:28

seeing a few people on social media

8:30

mention it for the category that I

8:32

ended up choosing it for, which was

8:34

best opening scene. That

8:37

was a spark, but then also seeing

8:40

the Oscar shortlist that came out

8:42

a while back. I don't remember how many categories

8:44

it exactly is, but some of those technical categories,

8:46

Josh. You know, they release the ten or fifteen

8:48

movies, whatever, that are

8:50

eligible, writing some, categories.

8:53

And all quite on the western front, I think, led

8:55

the way with maybe eight of those nominations. So

8:57

I knew then that or least it

8:59

was on the shortlist. So I knew

9:02

that the hype was for real, at least

9:04

in terms of it getting almost

9:06

surely some actual Oscar nominations.

9:08

And I knew I had to finally

9:11

see

9:11

it. And that's really what drove me to do

9:13

it. So you were probably less surprised than

9:15

I was to see as these nominations

9:17

roll out all quiet on the western front

9:20

just kept getting mentioned. As a matter of

9:22

fact, it is tied with a banshees of

9:24

an assurance for the second

9:26

most nominations. Though two those two movies

9:28

have nine, leading with all nominations

9:30

is everything everywhere all at once. It received

9:32

eleven nominations, including best

9:34

picture, best director, and then three acting

9:37

nods. So, yeah, going back to Alkwai on

9:39

the western front, I'm gonna probably dial

9:42

that one up next. It'll be the next film

9:44

I watch, as I said at our

9:46

live show, the rap party, Adam, I haven't read

9:48

the book it's based on, haven't seen the previous versions.

9:51

There's no time for that now. I've got

9:53

I've got to get into for for video

9:55

essay I'm making for the day job. I've got to

9:57

get into all the best picture nominees so I need

10:00

to watch this latest all quiet on

10:02

the western front right

10:03

away. So between those two, even

10:06

though I might and I haven't thought about

10:08

it, I might rank all quiet on the western

10:10

front higher than Causeway in terms

10:12

of my end of the year rankings. If

10:15

I was you, I'd be doing everything

10:17

I could to watch Causeway before all quite

10:19

on the western front. Because remember how I was saying

10:21

it's such a pleasure to watch that film even

10:23

though it's dealing with some serious subject matter and just

10:25

spend time with those characters. All

10:28

quite on the western front is as

10:30

harrowing as you might imagine it

10:32

to

10:32

be. Yeah. It's pretty bleak. And Gotcha.

10:34

-- pushing three hours too. Right?

10:37

0II don't think it's quite that one. Okay.

10:39

Alright. No. I I feel like it's under

10:41

two and a half -- Okay. -- for sure. So

10:44

you will be rewarded for that one as

10:46

well, at least I think you will. My

10:49

next takeaway here in at number

10:51

four is supporting actress

10:53

success in parentheses

10:55

mostly. I love these

10:57

nominations. Angela Bassett for

10:59

Wakanda ever hong chow the whale, Keri

11:01

Condon, the banshee's event is Sharon, and then

11:04

the two supporting actress nominees for

11:06

everything everywhere all at once Jamie

11:08

Lee Curtis and Stephanie Xu.

11:11

Here, we're seeing four

11:13

of my five nominees on

11:15

my CFCA ballot I had only

11:17

left out basset, but it also really

11:20

strongly considered her. Here's where

11:22

and this is gonna transition. I'll save a

11:24

little bit of it. Now it's gonna transition

11:26

into my next takeaway. But

11:28

here we do get some representation from

11:31

the academy in recognizing both Hongzhou

11:33

in Stephanie Xu. And I'll specifically

11:35

mention Chow for the

11:37

whale. That was my favorite supporting

11:40

actress performance of the year. I thought

11:42

she was likely to get it, but

11:44

you never know what these things Josh and some of

11:46

the ones that you think are locks sometimes

11:49

don't manifest themselves. So

11:52

overall, I look at that category.

11:54

I'll mention a couple names in a

11:56

moment. That maybe could have been

11:58

there and maybe would have overall helped

12:00

the academy as we consider these

12:02

nominations this

12:03

morning. But overall, I think that category

12:05

is really strong. Yeah. I was glad to see

12:07

Hong Kong on there as well.

12:10

Some of the other slots I might have had other choices,

12:12

which maybe we'll get to down the line with our

12:15

Oscar preview show. But

12:17

let's pause here and take

12:19

step back from the positivity in silver linings.

12:21

And I wanna acknowledge with you, you know,

12:23

the Academy has made I think progress

12:26

in recent years in terms of diversity and

12:28

representation and definitely feels

12:31

like this is a year where that stalled. If

12:33

you look at some of the other categories, no nominees

12:36

of color. And best actor and

12:38

then take a look at the best director nominees,

12:41

not a single woman. And that

12:44

even even look beyond that, Daniel Kwan,

12:46

one half of the Daniels, the only nominee of

12:48

color is FireEye now. And

12:51

so that's Especially

12:53

when the thing you have to do also

12:55

when this conversation comes up is say,

12:57

okay. Well, what who would

12:59

you have put in those spots? And we

13:01

won't get into all of that now again for another

13:04

show. But if you looked over at top ten

13:06

list from various critics, from

13:08

twenty twenty two, there are just a

13:10

ton of diverse options that were out there

13:12

in the best of cinema last

13:14

year. So I think that is also why it stands

13:17

out as a particular failure

13:19

for these nominations. Yeah. And maybe

13:21

I'll jump in there, Josh, since you transition

13:23

nicely. That is my next takeaway,

13:25

the struggle for diversity and representation. Continues.

13:28

And I acknowledge it as a struggle

13:31

because it's something the academy seems

13:33

to be failing at, but also because

13:36

of what you mentioned, that

13:38

we can recognize it as something we

13:40

all want and is

13:42

certainly a good thing. But then when

13:45

you actually get into those picks, which

13:47

are the ones that you want in and which are

13:49

the ones that you want out, Robert Daniels,

13:52

The great Chicago critic here said

13:54

another year, Halliburton is still the only black

13:56

woman who's one best actress, Selma is still the

13:58

only film directed by a black woman. To

14:00

be nominated for best picture. A black director

14:03

is never one best director and a black woman

14:05

has never been nominated for best

14:07

director And then he also tweeted

14:09

about seeing that Gina Prince Blythewood

14:12

didn't get nominated for best director,

14:14

for the Woman King and Santa Mayer.

14:16

And Alice Depp missed out as

14:18

well for best international feature.

14:21

I wish I was higher on

14:23

Gina Prince Blythe Woods, The Woman King,

14:26

it wouldn't have been in contention for me.

14:28

I wish I was a lot higher on

14:31

Sarah Polly's women talking. You know, that's

14:33

a huge disappointment from me considering

14:35

how much I respect Sarah

14:37

Polly's work, those wouldn't really

14:39

have been in the mix for me, and I wouldn't have nominated

14:41

Viola Davis either. Josh, for me,

14:43

the Most likely candidates, especially

14:46

from the Woman King, would have been Tussu

14:48

and Bedu, either a supporting actress.

14:50

I understand why she's supporting Tavaya

14:52

Ladavis. But I think she is

14:54

the protagonist. I think she's the main character

14:57

of the Woman King. I think Lishana Lynch

14:59

would have been a great candidate for

15:01

best supporting actress. As well

15:04

from the Woman King. I will

15:06

acknowledge that Sam mentioned this

15:08

to me, our producer, be a Slack that It

15:10

does seem that Michelle Yeoh is the first Asian

15:13

woman to be nominated for best

15:15

actress. So that is

15:17

one of those things that we can recognize

15:20

as a positive even though it

15:22

may be insane that it's taken this

15:24

long. I wanna jump back to Sarah Pauley,

15:26

and and I'm with you as much as we both

15:29

liked her previous films quite

15:31

a bit. We were we're big fans.

15:34

I think we were both left

15:36

a little a little let down by women

15:38

talking. But here's the point in the context of this

15:40

conversation, even if we Both

15:42

might not have argued for it when you

15:44

see women

15:45

talking, gets, and I believe,

15:47

a best adapted screenplay,

15:49

best adapted and -- And -- Bad

15:51

actor. Picture -- Mhmm. --

15:54

how that same body and I know the

15:56

voting is different. When it comes to best picture,

15:58

it's open to the entire Academy

16:01

to vote, whereas I believe best

16:03

director is only voted on by

16:06

director members of the Academy. So I know

16:08

that sometimes skews things. But

16:10

even so, when the movie is being recognized

16:12

that way, it is especially glaring that

16:14

there is a woman director there

16:17

whose film is being represented and

16:19

yet her work is not. So that's

16:21

that's a little frustrating as well. A little a little

16:23

strange no matter you feel about women talking

16:25

itself? Yeah. One of the things we try to

16:27

do here whenever we talk about the Oscars is recognize

16:30

that there are

16:32

always Filmspotting performances

16:36

or production elements that we

16:38

wish had gotten more

16:40

recognition. But that we're never really realistic.

16:43

So how much can we bemoan them? Right. I

16:45

don't know that we really thought

16:47

after son and Charlotte Wells

16:49

would get much attention from the Oscars.

16:52

But our joint film

16:55

of the year. And of course, if

16:57

it was me who could just magically snap

16:59

my fingers and make certain

17:01

nominations, a reality. Clearly,

17:03

I would have had Charlotte Wells in there for

17:05

best director. I'm gonna go to

17:07

another takeaway for me that maybe the

17:09

positive spin on that because obviously I agree with

17:12

you about Charlotte Wells and after sun.

17:14

But, hey, after sun is being represented,

17:16

this is this is the silver lining thing. Right?

17:19

I went into this thinking maybe I know there'd

17:21

been some talk about Paul Mezcal for

17:23

best actor. Maybe that would happen, but

17:25

I'm not I'm not counting on it. After

17:27

sun is huge. I mean, it's the bright

17:30

spot of the Filmspotting world in twenty

17:32

twenty two. But I recognize that's not the case

17:34

in other circles, even though many other critics

17:36

liked it, a lot. So I was just

17:38

hoping for that, so glad to

17:40

see that Paul Mescall did get

17:43

nomination now. Is he likely to win?

17:45

Well, he's up against Colin Farrell for Banchies

17:47

of Inter Sharon, Austin Butler for Elvis,

17:50

Brandon Fraser for the whale and Bill

17:52

Nye for Living. So I would

17:54

say at this point, not likely unless

17:56

there's there's, you know, a huge campaign that begins

17:59

but I do love that he's being honored, as you

18:01

said, our shared number one film, winner of

18:03

our Golden Brick award. The movie's

18:05

gonna get a lot more attention now. And that's that's

18:08

what I want out of the Oscars

18:10

is every year there are a couple

18:12

of films, a couple performers whose

18:15

stature is elevated by the

18:17

exposure the nominations

18:19

provide, and I'm thrilled

18:21

that that's happening in this way for

18:23

after sun.

18:25

You know what I want? Know that you can talk to me about

18:27

anything. Whatever

18:28

car needs to go to, or easy me,

18:30

drugs you take.

18:32

God. And my what do you

18:34

guys do? These are my moves.

18:36

Oh, for so embarrassing. That's so embarrassing.

18:40

Yeah. That was actually my top

18:42

takeaway. Remember what I saw, Paul

18:44

Mezcal plays Stanley Kowalski in Street Car in

18:46

a little London theater a few weeks ago, make

18:49

that Oscar nominee. There you go, Paul Mezcal,

18:51

who I saw. And I'm on

18:53

such a mezcal kick these

18:55

days. Anyway, just thinking

18:57

about seeing him on stage and how good

18:59

he was Of course, this performance

19:01

in after sun has been very top of mind

19:03

for us at the end of the year and even

19:06

into our wrap party when we

19:08

talked about some scenes from AfterSun,

19:10

and I just went back and started watching

19:12

normal people, the series on Hulu,

19:14

which is so good, and he's so

19:17

good in it. And, of course, then the news coming

19:19

out that he's gonna be in Richard

19:21

Linklater's Merrill Lee, we roll along,

19:23

which is gonna be filmed over decades.

19:26

Everything seems to be coming up, Paul Neskel,

19:29

and it all just

19:31

seems so legitimate. Like,

19:33

this is an actor who takes his

19:35

craft seriously who can do

19:37

just about anything and

19:40

who I can't wait to see more from. What

19:42

a what a boost this should

19:44

be in theory in terms of him being able

19:47

to pick whatever projects

19:49

he wants to

19:49

do. And sorry if you if you mentioned this and I

19:51

missed it, but God's creatures. Another film

19:54

we love from last week. He's a CoStar.

19:56

Yeah. CoStar with Emily

19:59

Watson directed by Sylvia Davis

20:01

and Anna Rose Homer, so he's excellent

20:03

in god's creatures, another smaller film

20:05

that might get some more attention if people are gonna

20:07

start working

20:08

back. Through his filmography now.

20:10

Yeah. So my final takeaway here,

20:12

a positive and a negative, tied to

20:14

the best international features of

20:16

twenty twenty two. Not to

20:19

not to. Our music moment of

20:21

the year got loved from the academy.

20:31

It's not really a surprise. I did

20:33

think it was coming based on whatever prognostications

20:36

I'd seen, but that sequence

20:38

is obviously incredible. And

20:40

I am thrilled for the film and everyone

20:42

involved that it got nominated. It might

20:44

also lead to, of course, or should lead to

20:47

more people discovering that film.

20:49

If they perform it, if

20:51

they have to perform not to not to live,

20:54

what will that be like? You know,

20:56

you think about -- Yeah. -- the Beatles

20:58

at some point stopped playing music

21:01

live because they just wanted to tinker

21:03

around and do really intricate amazing

21:05

things in the studio. Now, obviously, those

21:08

incredible actors and that entire ensemble,

21:11

all those extras who had

21:13

to perform it. They really did perform it. But

21:15

it's a feed of movie magic too.

21:18

Right? All that editing and the camera

21:20

work there to make not to not to what

21:22

it is, not just the song, but

21:24

the entire performance. What

21:27

will that be like translated to

21:29

the stage. Probably not quite the spectacle

21:33

that it is on the screen, but

21:35

think it will still be great fun

21:37

to watch. Hopefully, we will get to see that performance

21:40

on the stage. Should RRR

21:43

have also been nominated for best international

21:45

feature? Hell, I think it should have been nominated

21:47

for best picture. But somehow India didn't

21:49

even submit it as its official nomination

21:52

that went to last film

21:54

show. And then you had in decision

21:56

to leave yachtenuk's film made

21:59

both of our top tens. That also

22:01

being left out of the international

22:04

feature finalists was a tough one. And I

22:06

wanna say, I'm glad all quiet on the western

22:08

front is there. I'm glad close

22:10

is there. My number six film of the year

22:12

represents Belgium. I do really

22:14

wanna see the quiet girl in Argentina in nineteen

22:16

eighty five and plan to watch them both before the end

22:19

of the year. And I do have a lot of respect for

22:21

the artistic achievement that is

22:24

EO from Poland. So it's not like

22:26

I can sit here and say, I think the category

22:28

is a debacle, but

22:30

I wish RRR had been eligible.

22:33

And I can't comprehend overlooking decision

22:36

to

22:36

leave. And thinking about RRR too,

22:38

it does fit into our

22:40

my the point made about theatrical

22:43

big screen experiences. You

22:45

know, I obviously, our our our

22:47

also had a very popular life

22:49

on Netflix. Right? That's where

22:52

it was available. But you

22:54

heard about the people who managed to see it in theater

22:56

with a crowd. And their reports

22:58

yes. Their reports rivaled reports

23:01

of everything everywhere all at once. So

23:03

RRR is another opportunity where the

23:05

academy could have, you know, gotten behind

23:08

a movie that was big, popular,

23:10

critically approved, and also

23:13

fit into this this messaging they seem

23:15

to be giving about the importance of the theatrical

23:17

experience. I had one more

23:19

takeaway, Adam. I don't know if you I think you

23:21

said you had shared your last one.

23:23

Should I go ahead and roll with this? You've heard

23:25

of my five. I think it's interesting that Pixar

23:28

is probably gonna have its toughest competition in

23:30

years for animated feature.

23:32

They've got turning red which

23:34

I liked quite a bit, didn't

23:36

make my top ten. Two of the other nominees

23:39

did, Guillermo del Toro's Panocchio and

23:41

Marcel de Shell with shoes on.

23:43

I can easily see one of those two

23:46

taking out turning red and actually

23:48

getting the win. The other nominees in

23:50

the animated feature category the sea beast,

23:52

which was pretty good and puts

23:54

in boots the last

23:55

wish, which apparently is pretty

23:58

great from

23:59

what I've been apparently.

24:01

On letter box and on social media,

24:03

you know I'm a Shrek defender, Adam. So

24:05

I might I might have to

24:07

get to purse and boots. The last

24:09

wish. But, yeah, otherwise incredibly

24:12

strong category there, the animated feature

24:14

category this year. Dropping my son

24:16

Quint off at school, this morning.

24:18

Also a Shrek defender, Josh,

24:20

he was so happy

24:23

to hear push and boots. Nice.

24:25

He's dead in nomination. He says it's great.

24:27

So there you go. A couple

24:29

bonus takeaways. You acknowledged your

24:31

homework. I need to see

24:34

living not only that nomination

24:36

for Bill Nye, but also Kazuko Ishiguro

24:39

getting a best adapted screenplay, nomination

24:41

that's adapted from Deku,

24:44

the Kirasawa film, We're both

24:46

fans of that and I

24:48

look forward to seeing this one. This is one that

24:50

doesn't feel like homework for me.

24:53

Either just like I suggested causeway

24:55

shouldn't feel that way for you. Tilesley

24:57

is also a big story here. Right? And

25:00

Andrea Roseboro. You probably

25:02

saw it or maybe you were off Twitter more than I

25:04

was a weekend or so ago where

25:06

you started seeing all these actors. Sort

25:08

of in unison in other industry

25:10

people coming out with

25:12

this campaign, a

25:15

legitimate campaign to

25:18

get recognition for Riserborough.

25:20

Who is wonderful in everything you see

25:22

her in? We saw her in Amsterdam. Earlier

25:25

this year as well, the David Russell film in supporting

25:27

turn. The film has been on my radar

25:30

just at the end of the year prepping

25:32

for what performances

25:34

stood out for a lot of people, what films

25:37

maybe were in contention for top

25:39

ten. I saw it sneak in maybe

25:41

not on any top ten list, Josh. But

25:43

I certainly saw it in some of those Oscar

25:45

prognostications where people are saying,

25:48

this is one of the better performances of the year.

25:50

People are overlooking it. I

25:52

never got to it, and I guess

25:54

now I'm gonna have to. Looks like the campaign

25:56

worked on Oscar voters at least. Yeah. I need

25:58

to get to that one too. Finally, I

26:00

do wanna say I was really happy to see

26:04

the editing nomination for Tar,

26:06

Monica Billy. And really just for this

26:08

reason. We all do it. Voters

26:11

in these technical categories are really

26:13

susceptible to this, even I who try not

26:15

to be. Often find

26:18

my instincts going that direction where

26:21

you think about it as best editing

26:23

means most editing. And I'm

26:25

good with these nominations, but certainly

26:27

Elvis fits the bill. Everything

26:29

everywhere all at once. Top gun Maverick.

26:32

These are intricate, frenetic,

26:36

often films. So they

26:38

make sense. They pass the eyeball test

26:40

for this category. But then you see movies

26:42

like the banshees of Anishiren and

26:44

tar. And maybe

26:46

they don't initially seem like they

26:49

should be candidates in this category. They

26:51

might even seem fairly conventional, except

26:54

then you think back on tar, and

26:56

the rhythms of that film

26:58

and the assortment

27:01

of shots

27:04

and the way that film

27:06

is structured to

27:09

have that kind of I'll say the

27:11

word I think I used back when we talked about it on the

27:13

top ten show. This kind of oppressive feeling

27:16

that it gives you The cinematography

27:19

is a huge part of that, but

27:21

the editing is hand in

27:23

hand with it. And I think that

27:26

There aren't any sequences in that film.

27:28

There's not any one sequence I think someone would

27:30

point to and be like, oh, wow. Look at

27:32

the incredible editing. The pace

27:34

of the editing. It doesn't have those kind of sequences

27:36

like some of those other films I mentioned, do,

27:39

but just from start to

27:41

finish, being this incredibly

27:43

polished work and

27:46

something that I do think is visually stunning.

27:49

I was excited to see Monica Billy get

27:51

that nomination. Austrian editor worked

27:53

a ton with Michael Hanukkah,

27:56

Anna Moore, on time

27:58

of the wolf, on the white ribbon, the

28:00

piano teacher, but her first Oscar

28:02

nomination. Yeah. And in the case of

28:04

Tarr, I think of that as a movie with

28:06

very sustained, not always

28:09

lengthy, but often lengthy sequences.

28:12

And editing in that context

28:14

is, you're right. It's not about how

28:16

much is done, how quickly,

28:18

how many times we're jumping from one thing

28:20

to the next, but knowing when

28:22

is the judicious time to

28:25

make

28:26

that cut as it were or to hold

28:28

the camera longer. It's a different approach

28:31

to editing, but just as crucial

28:34

of an approach I agree. I think that

28:36

closes out this reaction shot.

28:38

We are reacting so quickly. By

28:40

the time we post it, we'll

28:43

have seen so much more discourse, we'll probably

28:46

identify seventeen things we should have

28:48

talked

28:48

about. That's that's probably true, but we gotta move

28:50

on. We've got

28:51

we're looking ahead to twenty twenty three in our next

28:53

show

28:53

coming out

28:54

later this week with our our movie

28:56

preview So, yeah, one half of

28:58

our brain is back in twenty twenty two. The other is

29:00

moving ahead. Thanks for listening everyone. This

29:02

conversation can serve no purpose

29:05

anymore. Goodbye. Panoply.