Introducing Five and Nine Live!

Following up on Episode 4.07. Awakening the Healer, we present our very first live podcast recording — a special episode for Season 4 recorded live at the Center for the Enlightenment Arts in Bushwick, Brooklyn, at Gathering Future Ancestors:a meditative experience of immersive storytelling, participatory art, and sound — exploring water as an entryway to our shared humanity.

In this discussion, host AX Mina and guest Helen Banach talk about multihyphenate life, the practice of healing and the difference between holding space and holding pain. They close with a tarot reading for the collective using the Mixed Signals Tarot deck designed by M Eifler, with insights on how to navigate grief, cultivate care and tend to the fire within all of us to build differently in this time of deep crisis.

The Season 4 finale will be coming out in the next few weeks. In the meantime, check out our most recent episodes with the 2023 residents of One of Many Studio’s Wadi Rum residency:

* Azad's Kite: Art in a Time of Crisis

* Learning to Trust the Gut

* It's More Clear at the Bottom

* PLUS a bonus minisode of our Embodied Water Practice

Tarot Cards Discussed

* Five of Cups

* Seven of Cups

* Eight of Wands

* Queen of Swords (aka Maker of Swords in the Mixed Signals Deck)

Images of the cards are available at thisisfiveandnine.com.

Season 4 is co-presented with One of Many Studio (OoM), an experience design studio at the intersection of healing and justice work. We envision a movement of Future Ancestors built through transformative, intentionally curated experiences. Connect with OoM on Substack.

Five and Nine is a podcast and newsletter at the crossroads of magic, work and economic justice. We publish “moonthly” — every new moon 🌚 and full moon 🌝 — , and we provide an ongoing critical discussion through readings, reflections and debate.

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