Why would a political scientist be the go-to guy for cybersecurity? Well, it turns out there’s a lot of crossover. That’s what Flyover Future’s founder Tom Cottingham found out when he interviewed Dr. Richard Harknett, professor and director of the School of Public and International Affairs at the University of Cincinnati.

The two chatted about cybersecurity, physical security, integrated circuits, the Ohio Cyber Range Institute and more. Here’s a brief summary of their conversation.