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to iowa due to an alka

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seltzer as everybody doing today

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i've been thinking about

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it the last say

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the

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i mean like i don't even know why like this

1:44

he is i'm just scared of another

1:46

pandemic

1:47

and i'm trying to get it back they were

1:51

, right we're all trying to get vaccines were waiting

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in lines were going right otters

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with list serves as opposed

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to be as summer tramp

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age and nice like i had my

2:03

nobody's had me

2:04

my home be

2:08

assessed of the monkey pox

2:10

i've i have to lock it up again joe

2:14

got of anything

2:16

the guy got a vaccine here we are

2:18

easily your i heard of the category of other matter

2:21

what i'm close i am

2:23

i am an older man ah

2:25

yes the dame is making fun of the fact

2:27

that new york city for really awesome

2:30

reasons as excluding trans women from

2:32

vaccination ah which is okay

2:35

just it's been hell are we live in hell my life

2:37

as hell my brain is most ah

2:39

yeah don't want to do it anymore is hop

2:41

added some stupid so in in new

2:44

york city it's gay ,

2:46

and other men are eligible for vaccinate

2:50

vaccinate that's a meaningful categories do you

2:52

have you know like as it just for the for

2:54

the listeners out there are are there

2:56

and of resources where we could like find

2:59

where they have vaccines are is there a

3:01

have sorts by

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the by the time this comes out and

3:06

ah things should have

3:08

changed significantly on the back something

3:12

so check your local the it'll

3:15

be your city or state department of health

3:17

will be the place to go for vaccine information

3:20

well thankfully the vaccination

3:22

clinic that joe went to as like four blocks

3:25

from my apartment so i'm

3:28

gonna try to stand in line as

3:31

it was it was the most joyous

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line of game and you can tell that like staff

3:35

of us are like say gossip as as the

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other half are like oh no i've been of i guess i'm

3:39

waiting added sci clinic for like a vaccine

3:42

and i was a bit but it was in my

3:44

experience going to a gay bar just in

3:46

general licenses some

3:49

, are happy to be there is some people me

3:51

i don't i don't want to see any

3:54

don't want as we do not hello i'm

3:56

tommy teeth speak of indigenous american poets

3:58

screenwriter team rider and

4:01

i got a drill from home depot so i'm technically

4:03

butch and

4:08

i was

4:10

born with a drill from home depot in

4:12

my right hand came out of the room like murderer

4:15

but and in shells a

4:24

you, that just because you have a drill, doesn't

4:26

mean you have to actually do any goddamn

4:28

drill, like, okay all

4:31

okay i'm hi everyone

4:33

i'm can use a nice i am the creative

4:35

director of dominoes sound and the

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podcast producer and alex

4:40

and i saw them by the to an all

4:42

male pride party

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oh now we were the only

4:46

we were men invited and i

4:48

don't know if that says something really

4:50

good or something bad

4:52

wow did you go did you go

4:56

that bad it was all about far as

4:58

i'm i live i was living my goddamn

5:00

lab i love the gays believe

5:05

it's so now we walked in walked in like there now

5:07

my i feel like i know now i see like gay

5:09

men are like fucking with

5:11

like really hard to fit with

5:13

somalia greatest thing but it can turn into

5:15

a hot mess rock wackier

5:17

the some reason don't trust them

5:20

okay don't trust them are as soon

5:24

, you what else was on the menu today today

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we're looking at adaptations for film

5:29

and television from such sources as

5:32

articles and books podcasts

5:35

if you will ah we're going to start

5:37

off the top off the show of way any good to have

5:39

said with said little swipe right swipe left

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are classic are game of that

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are cute and we finish

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with sweets city street

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moving to get away

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as a good news bush and i'm

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going to an easy solution today with our classic

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swipe right swipe left game so i left

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me loot swipe

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right means to to eat i'd i'd try

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to overtime game i'll discuss

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this is for you go first

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, swipe right swipe left the supreme

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court ah so i plow and

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a mommy no power here and

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as don't our here here

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i know it hurts

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and still depressed about our men there

6:30

man i'm angry but i'm

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just like first love fucked them

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and then do we have to

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listen

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no way

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okay of am i kind of the i'm

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feeling the whole lives the com ungovernable

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yeah there's there's i feel

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like that the only way sir really

6:47

thereby and listen without becoming ungovernable

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it's an american tradition okay

6:52

period like period in it we

6:54

overthrew our institutions and i'm like i'm fight

6:56

like every decision they hand out

6:59

of this is like they're busy season they're btc

7:01

like what is going on bombing ours is normally you

7:03

are making the wrong decisions and

7:05

you only have authority because we choose to

7:07

allow you to have authority and we can take we

7:09

can taken away i'm i'm so over

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the supreme bus except for tansy see

7:13

to stay by i'm so i'm

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just now i'd just like you have you haven't

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no more validity in my eyes

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fuck yeah right right i

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do hope that like the end result

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of all of this horror is

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like we we we did we

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declared the supreme court like the

7:32

king with no clothes on in already mean like

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yeah because like i ah

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i don't dare are undermining their own authority

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by being the most unpopular

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group of france's in america

7:44

and than saying something yes

7:47

and also i don't under

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lake egypt

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to the first does supreme

7:53

court to actually rescind constitutional

7:56

rights so a

7:59

her like yep you they can

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sit in their little building and right there little decisions

8:03

that no one will listen to that the let's have

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that be the future me i also have such as

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ah i'm not a lawyer but like

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if you're

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, gonna lie us if

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you over a hundred precedent then

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why in god's name would

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you think that going forward anyone

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is going to look at what you decided as

8:29

new precedents the give all you

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did was like make

8:34

it clear that president doesn't exist at

8:36

doesn't matter if it's irrelevant so like

8:38

now this overturning roe v wade august

8:40

whiteside overturned by lake and

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you can actually to say that but my point

8:44

is that's not president it

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out there is no my for that anymore you

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are giving me a serious legally

8:51

blonde of i was right now but

8:54

, everyone you my life that

8:56

was my aspirations when aspirations saw that movie

8:58

for a whole year after that commitment

9:02

got it right swipe

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right place left on parade now

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now i'm homophobic i hate pride a

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heap arrays i hate people too many people

9:12

small spaces outside it's hot out

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know i do not like and i swipe left swipe last

9:16

fate they they the

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block traffic they make it impossible

9:21

to get enough sleep

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lamb

9:25

right right because i like

9:26

fun know

9:29

her

9:31

the messy though because

9:34

you know it gets hot

9:36

it gets sweaty when we feel of story so

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speaking for producer alex he or she would swipe

9:41

left one hundred percent so

9:43

our friends invite

9:45

a surprise me has some like special back

9:47

see that was right in front of the parade

9:49

and there are gonna be free

9:50

the and free drinks the whole

9:52

time for alibi yes yes yes let's live

9:55

vip life we got ready

9:57

we sets off the train

9:59

we were

9:59

in the crowd for like three men

10:02

and know an hour move like

10:05

we gotta go home as

10:08

is a media leave back home

10:11

for them across them across to even get into the

10:13

back seat so that's

10:15

how it is i love them but

10:17

i also understand

10:18

why they are difficult and we're trying to quit

10:20

or hate that trying to cross the street at a parade

10:22

is a vital my hell

10:24

would just be having across the street and then back again

10:27

over and over again at afraid silent

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hill for forever i'll

10:31

one time i was dragged to the pride parade

10:33

by of as a friend we were trying

10:36

to go into a bar on christmas tree

10:38

know and are there was the barricades

10:40

you know because it's also police right so

10:42

wrangles so mean lollies top barricades

10:45

and then these two homosexuals got

10:47

into a fight with each other right in front of us and

10:50

one try to fight off the other one's fingers

10:52

and my friend got covered in blood

10:54

set up

10:58

oh and will have to hold our

11:00

be a moment of the i

11:02

will of the girls

11:04

the girls are fighting the girls are biting

11:06

fingers almost off though i mean

11:08

that of result i think of my

11:10

next swipe right swipe left which is

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day drinking oh

11:16

flight last all why must i don't like

11:18

it i don't like it either i know why i don't drink

11:20

when the sun is on me yeah because

11:22

, then you have a hangover buy dinner time

11:24

to see that feeling you are

11:27

useless have are useless smooth a

11:29

gentle buzz throughout the day

11:33

i'll analyze the maintain

11:35

work is a lot of water in it hard

11:37

it's a lot of liquid you know like i can be penalized

11:40

then that that level i love you

11:42

he

11:43

the

11:46

i am so

11:49

i feel like you could just option dems

11:52

non sequitur his from this episode

11:55

of intuitive it's not

11:59

a lawyer oh god

12:01

as a slight break flight blessed

12:03

on having a body that

12:07

right way cause how would i have sex and

12:09

i didn't have a body although them again with the monkey

12:11

pox right now it's locked up so

12:15

right right because

12:18

the body houses the soul but

12:21

it also

12:22

my brain i

12:25

got to five let five mean i just did not only does having

12:27

does having within also a body that is like the

12:31

aging is and deteriorating

12:33

as i was bored usa she pulled out her

12:35

bag which is turning around and i was like i'd

12:37

i'd sit on a run and i fucked up my

12:39

knee analysis of a fucked up me another fucking

12:42

by men fuckin bodies it

12:44

is really it is getting harder and harder

12:46

out there people to be a human body

12:50

the swipe right swipe left on jesse

12:52

williams dangling

12:56

i refused to comment on the dig

12:58

allowing because there was no consent given to

13:00

the video been taken

13:02

okay for it was nice though

13:04

the audio feed have in mind that the videos robbed

13:07

and i'm gonna slap right because it was beautiful

13:09

and i'm

13:10

yeah

13:12

not me i wouldn't it is

13:14

i'll say both i want to stay upright and so

13:16

blessed because i enjoyed the

13:18

length and girth i

13:21

, though it was it was

13:24

recorded in a manner that

13:26

was says satellite that

13:28

but ultimately like that yes

13:31

i'm into the dick i

13:33

would a swipe right slight blessed pet

13:35

owners who refer to themselves as

13:38

mom or dad and their tests as

13:40

their children

13:42

right right or you can

13:44

a that's literally my way i'm

13:47

, like so you better axe right

13:49

away mother like not

13:51

i see like one of the allies them

13:53

away as heroes you for her birthday him since his

13:56

as bit her leg seasons

13:58

doing leg muscles like alex

13:59

oh please treat white

14:02

mother with respect and then sometimes

14:04

i have to take some away from alex and

14:06

i'm like full if black mother time

14:08

so we have black mother

14:09

at least twice a day important

14:11

and you morton right up really matters

14:14

oh is that we are child we're

14:16

her mom and she knows her

14:18

race which is black and italy

14:20

listen

14:22

that that is a key and very important

14:25

i cherish my role as on

14:27

t in mister suffering life so

14:30

yeah few who to go i have a young

14:32

girl is urgent need out of that the guy

14:35

does he live a betty rather see

14:38

love is a belly rub oh

14:40

he's oh he's clingy but

14:42

it's release you and me laugh at so

14:44

now i support i'd rather listen

14:47

hops over kids so that's

14:50

how i feel i'm just going to sleep less because

14:53

it's weird but i will fight

14:55

right on the having of the pets and i will

14:57

say prey on being the on seats because

14:59

i don't think i could ever take care of one i mean it's

15:02

a son really did a number

15:04

on my plants as estimate years

15:06

ago and it hasn't recovered

15:08

so have a son

15:11

has problems sorry array

15:13

of for the final flight right fly blessed

15:15

i'm going to say slippery slope

15:18

last on been attracted to men laughs

15:21

like the last lasts oh

15:24

i'm praying that i'm sorry honey

15:26

it'll make them attracted to women

15:30

i believe it can happen i believe

15:31

the i've heard i've heard account

15:33

wow that's amazing

15:36

okay i'll say that i'm gonna say

15:38

wall

15:40

car

15:41

i'm actually a bisexual

15:43

people can i love every

15:45

one soon but men are terrible

15:47

get a separate

15:49

i believe like one percent of them

15:52

are probably may be okay

15:55

the other men these are the famous other men

15:57

the new york under margaret of l a c open

15:59

a moron believe it myself

16:01

often for that you know for the other man

16:04

a man well

16:06

thank you for playing that game with as with hope you learned absolutely

16:09

nothing could buy

16:13

omega for the meat of our discussion the thought process

16:16

of creating the ,

16:18

and i will be slain will be meet this week we're going

16:20

to be talking about adaptations you know

16:23

some books from from

16:25

articles from podcast add

16:28

but and ever going to talk about our our see

16:30

rated not so favorite adaptations why they

16:32

often fail is there an adaptation

16:34

has been better than the source material were you ever

16:36

surprised that something was an adaptation

16:38

or that it actually wasn't an adaptation and

16:40

it was a fully realized fully new idea

16:43

but before we get to that if you

16:45

were going to adapt food for thought

16:47

for film and television who would play

16:49

you oh that's

16:52

really hard cheese i'm not ready

16:54

for that question matt

16:58

rogers our

17:01

am i oh my god

17:05

i'm a school my last lap

17:08

i would

17:08

i would say a young he honorees i

17:12

could see that see the wow

17:14

okay you just going for i did so by

17:16

oh nothing really matters nothing really matters

17:18

now okay so okay think

17:21

i'm gonna cast fran the

17:25

actually the new guy so that i think about it so that

17:28

i'm the about someone her friend to but for

17:30

me here

17:32

me

17:33

it would really love for it to be angelica

17:35

ross i

17:38

love everything about her and

17:42

she would make me proud of me

17:44

no i yam

17:47

in the in the role of joe i

17:49

would probably cast own

17:51

a tall placid cactus besides

17:55

have suffered it's the

17:57

perfect like a thousand of water

17:59

in it hi the amount of time that

18:01

joe sense crying it's

18:03

all of the water all of the water goes to the

18:05

tears it's tears it's you know it's

18:07

famously i'm the cactuses moisture

18:10

is all inside of the plant you know mean

18:12

and wow so i think that like

18:14

is the rise

18:16

it's dry dry

18:19

a pastor's d it me as valid

18:21

or for that he doesn't the it's their seats and

18:23

friend beauty the cats yourself we

18:26

need you know you can play kenya we down

18:31

i've you were tiki palmer

18:34

the way i borrow the emily than

18:36

me a good energy yeah she

18:39

would be very chest who'd you cast as alex

18:43

oh my god decoded johnson

18:46

johnson

18:47

really yeah

18:51

actually i think i have actually

18:54

the perfect

18:55

there in mind i think

18:57

scarlett johanson should play all of us

19:00

have , right right i

19:02

actually wouldn't get always alex to be played by

19:04

but boots kristen stewart yeah

19:07

that would be that is already get well as

19:10

or the other good seems as if what you wanted to bring up the

19:12

sabic what is your favorite adaptations

19:15

oh well i just saw passage the

19:18

which was based on the novella by

19:20

know a larson and i love

19:22

that book eyes then

19:24

i was i i i thought it's

19:26

adaptation was was was nice i

19:28

thought the performances are really good and

19:30

you know what they've seen as like what i'm

19:32

always fascinated about adaptations as

19:34

lakes in a

19:36

, from trying to adapt something myself

19:39

right now some from a web series and

19:41

to i admire television show like

19:45

this i think the successful adaptations

19:47

aren't necessarily the ones that

19:50

are like sit the thing to with

19:52

that that have adapted from earth from the source

19:54

material to it's he's but they have i submit

19:56

or off yeah that that's not such a literal adaptation

19:58

but it does captured spirit of

20:02

, the what the source material

20:04

was about you know i think of i'm hustlers

20:08

rates with that would raise dot an article

20:10

and i think the atlantic where the new yorkers

20:12

something like that that i thought it was

20:14

it will i mean it was an excellent i mean i have a i'm

20:17

bias i loved hustlers it's the i saw seventeen

20:19

times shot at christina tucker you know what i'm talking

20:21

i'm com but it was

20:24

in his in like a team some of the names

20:26

and it seems some the ages and all that kind of stuff but

20:28

it really did get to this idea of

20:31

these women who

20:33

were being taken advantage of

20:35

by the club by the system by

20:38

the financial crisis are taking matters

20:40

into their own hands yeah you know and blake

20:42

the ethics and morality of that our own

20:44

question begs you know he was also

20:47

like what recourse to these women have

20:49

you know who can they go to to

20:51

write these wrong they can't they don't

20:53

have anybody they can go to they take it into their

20:55

own scary think that's why i loved this

20:57

ideas are aware i love that adaptation so

20:59

much and i've i've wondered to with the

21:02

rest of your i

21:04

thought about this topic again because joe

21:07

we were just joking on tax and and joe was talking

21:09

about of adapting

21:12

oh with it jokingly adapting this novel

21:15

that he's working on there

21:18

and curious like is there an adaptation

21:21

that stands out for ya

21:23

i'm of two minds about this

21:26

about like the perfect adaptation being

21:29

super liberal versus been completely

21:31

longer than i don't think because i think

21:34

the just before the fire i would movie which

21:36

is an adaptation of pride and prejudice i

21:38

went back and revisit the ninety ninety five

21:40

a bbc mini series pride and prejudice

21:43

or that's the best one have the best one

21:45

oh my god i love that do it for sided

21:47

it is amazing and also as as

21:49

a time in the nineties there weren't that many limited

21:51

series and so it felt super long is

21:54

like five one hour episodes and examined

21:56

the sunshine and box set of vhs

21:58

tapes right and now now

22:01

that we're so used to streaming and other or some

22:03

so used to like been getting things you

22:05

go by you're like oh my god that's actually really sort

22:07

it's only five hours of content with for that

22:09

was crazy for now was like totally normal but

22:11

it is such a literal adaptation

22:15

by the dialogue comes from the book

22:17

and the characters are so and that's why

22:19

it's so long right because it has all of these

22:21

twists and turns that you typically have time

22:23

for in a novel that you don't have time

22:25

for in a movie that's ninety minutes or two hours

22:27

right and so it but the adaptation

22:29

is so perfect

22:32

like it's so good and it's so true

22:34

to what the book is and that acting is often on ross

22:36

and it totally is it's own singular

22:38

things and then i think of an adaptation

22:41

like the film adaptation which

22:43

is like fuckin bonkers

22:46

you know and it's so mehta and it's so

22:48

weird and it gets sick it starts

22:50

matter and even just gets more met us

22:52

and it is completely divorced from the source material

22:55

which is a new yorker profile right so it's

22:57

like but both of those are phenomenal

23:00

adaptations because that the

23:03

final work of art

23:04

the

23:05

the thing that it is school

23:08

watching adaptation

23:11

i think so

23:14

i see your point about and the mini

23:16

series being a better adaptation perhaps than

23:18

a feature is am ,

23:20

think there's more opportunities for that now

23:23

now i'm thinking about like little fires everywhere

23:25

which was not a perfect adaptation but but

23:27

but it's been a limited

23:29

serious allowed for it to be more

23:31

like the book you know anything

23:33

to like unsuccessful adaptations in

23:36

my opinion like great expectations are midnight

23:38

children stitch tried to sit too much

23:40

sit until an hour and an half that's

23:43

right it going with it gets so it gets

23:45

so busy and that the so worried

23:47

about like people who read the book in

23:49

love the being bad in x y z didn't

23:51

happen that actually completely

23:53

lose the fact that completely film

23:56

and ninety minutes can only do but so much

23:58

and it's really up

24:00

that is like you're saying like what is the

24:02

spirit of the text and what do the essential

24:05

components that need to be scaffolding

24:07

in see what a movie can and can't do one

24:10

, the things that i've been thinking about what adaptations

24:13

more recently and really the spurred

24:15

by as deciding to do this topic i

24:17

was also thing you have a little fires everywhere

24:19

and i haven't read the the but yeah it's like

24:21

very high on my my list because i have

24:23

a it takes place in shaker heights i grew up

24:25

right next to cigar his incriminate ah

24:28

i'm ah celeb celeste anguilla cleave

24:30

anguilla author on but one

24:32

of the things of the thinking about was with

24:34

that tv adaptation the decision

24:37

to have on the character of me i played

24:39

by kerry washington and a half

24:41

or be a black woman which is not sad

24:43

explicitly and the novel recent that's

24:45

mander standing firm like that yeah i read

24:48

this on and it celeste

24:50

ng has talked about how she didn't like suited

24:52

right

24:53

the

24:54

you know well about like a black woman's

24:56

experience and that sort of circumstances as

24:58

she left the race open but

25:00

i thought it was interesting because it it eat

25:03

it

25:03

it premiered in i think may have twenty

25:05

twenty so it was literally just like

25:07

weeks before so much of

25:09

though so many of the race or conversations that we've been having

25:12

for years really boiled over on

25:14

with the murder of towards floyd sides remember

25:16

thinking there was an interesting suisse

25:19

to really highlight the racial

25:21

differences in in that

25:23

adults he sends and when

25:25

i used to think of adaptation all i thought

25:27

about was taking something that had been

25:29

originally conceived and written and produced

25:32

and whatever in one form and putting it in another

25:34

but what about seeking something and

25:36

also adapting it to the time that it's

25:39

gap that it's going to go public

25:41

in now ray like that like

25:43

it's almost like they had a crystal ball of course like

25:45

me didn't buy it you

25:47

know they were already so many tensions and things

25:49

happening and so many important conversations around race

25:52

and my understanding was that reese witherspoon was looking for

25:54

a project to do with kerry washington so

25:56

they had this idea to do this and

25:58

i and i'm assuming saw things it off

26:00

on it and i just thought that was really

26:02

interesting that they also adopted the

26:04

project for i'm the

26:07

very contemporary context within which

26:09

was going to be re presented to the world

26:11

and i thought that was a really interesting thing to do

26:14

there was also is such an early lockdown

26:17

it likes to think corona phase

26:19

one type yeah like i watch

26:22

because i remember it was within the first

26:24

two weeks of the lockdown i was watching little fires everywhere

26:26

in transferring all of my like this thread

26:28

a bunch of travel sized lotions and and

26:30

shampoo stuff like that because i toward

26:32

a lot enemy has like watching little fires

26:34

everywhere and and i'm putting all

26:37

of my small containers of lotion

26:39

and shampoo into larger container suppose i

26:41

should say , if you well

26:43

is a week ago i was so

26:45

images and that was like a tuesday afternoon

26:49

while hub while will say about the little far

26:51

as ever adaptations as ever read the book and i

26:53

was excited to see they were there were turning it into

26:55

films adding the dimensionality of her blackness

26:58

on it was not something in the books of

27:00

but then also there's this really great line

27:03

where at i'm i'm gonna butcher but risk

27:06

what it says i made good

27:08

choices and kerry washington says you

27:10

had choices to make or something like

27:12

that like this and that that exist

27:15

that is not in the books and that it is

27:17

an added i'm innovation

27:19

on the source material

27:21

right and as he they're they're saying like i

27:23

think my favorite type of

27:25

adaptation is when the race

27:27

matt hum then whore if it's completely

27:30

color by and cast saying or they just

27:32

make it fully black i'm a farm

27:34

girl i love the well as

27:36

an added

27:37

in of the weather evidence i love

27:39

brandy cinderella lane i

27:42

i know like is

27:44

happening for the not the best film

27:47

but it is the best so mean i mean my

27:49

know like and and i felt like the

27:51

element of the multi

27:53

racial casting was amazing and as

27:56

i mean everything was so bad said i could

27:58

totally believe that world and i love

27:59

i think sometimes it doesn't

28:02

go well as it did you don't see the

28:05

they saw colorblind casting of

28:08

oklahoma the broadway play

28:10

no i did not see that

28:12

i had something but i know who's

28:14

in it but i just added really

28:16

it felt a thing of i actually like

28:18

oklahoma like i love runway

28:20

i just i like that way people said it

28:23

, a little strains the

28:26

color like as like couldn't quite get there like

28:28

get there i get what they were trying

28:30

to do and i'm all about equality in equity

28:33

i feel like with sir

28:34

story of that just doesn't quite

28:36

fit

28:37

i know that we five different opinion because they might be

28:39

it like it if it's a story about whiteness

28:41

right wet whiteness be whiteness you know

28:43

in a rainbow as if like that's not

28:46

and maybe sometimes you just don't have to tell that

28:48

story again you know what i mean like movements

28:50

device or he doesn't work with of

28:52

and i mean we duty to be telling stories about

28:54

whiteness but there are ways to do that's like

28:56

a my novel for example i made the conscious

28:58

choice to have only be white people because

29:00

i didn't want to be running characters color in this world

29:03

and it's about murdering toxic

29:05

whiteness it is like some whiteness is what

29:07

the book is about and it's it's not token

29:09

icing said so force for

29:12

a some someone else in there you know zoc

29:14

but like like you're saying can kinda sometimes

29:17

like you can wear a new thing happen

29:19

and your arms yeah but since we're talking about broadway

29:21

and raise i mean that we you know if the hamilton

29:24

of at all rights were not like

29:26

literal legs slave

29:29

owning people and their invert

29:31

the rays and it just me to i'm not going to i'm not taking

29:34

any position on it is just a complicated

29:36

and not often talked about with enough nuance

29:39

brain in hamilton like i'd totally

29:42

access it is because everything

29:44

about the south like the sound

29:46

other than america

29:47

it is completely bats it to me

29:49

and it seems like a fairytale so

29:53

and that way when i i kind of like don't

29:55

you had a history even though i know it is so

29:57

i was kind of a high oh it was

29:59

radical

29:59

hip hop so i mean i loved it when it first

30:02

came out i think looking back

30:04

yard for it's like racially interesting and

30:06

it doesn't

30:06

then rather trivial one let

30:09

us and lesson

30:11

if they were what

30:12

wrapping i be mad that

30:15

why they had to be

30:17

you know in order

30:18

the performing at that level so

30:21

little thing i've actually really number

30:23

sad

30:25

hi how are you never really understood

30:27

doing

30:29

why hamilton exists

30:33

wake what is the point you and

30:35

i haven't seen it so maybe it's

30:38

something that late

30:40

i know and so go ahead go

30:42

ahead should should visit

30:44

like maybe like should see and then i'll get it but

30:46

i've seen a few scenes and i'm just like

30:49

i'm not sure but i really understand the

30:51

purpose of understand running the races here i'd

30:53

i'd oh now it's like sometimes we do that like a

30:55

few years ago at the sight of and ten years ago they

30:57

made and black remake of

30:59

steel magnolias oh yeah

31:01

yeah yeah that

31:04

was i mean it was like on tv i was like to

31:06

add a lot of overhead start

31:08

at start queen latifah as the mother as

31:10

the sally field the character mullen i think the more

31:12

i love the classic so magnolia

31:15

my was like this did not need

31:17

to be done by has also don't

31:20

okay

31:21

how this blasphemy

31:24

cancel me but i don't

31:26

think queen latifah is as good

31:28

as an actress as sally field so

31:30

when that seem when that seem

31:33

when that scene and you know what seen i'm talking about

31:35

if you look at sally fields version

31:37

verses queen latifah version you could

31:39

see queen trying to get there and

31:42

she doesn't quite get their emotionally

31:45

you know with the do like and and and sally

31:47

fields marvelous meat

31:49

is effortless it's it's she goes back

31:51

and forth between i mean it's it's it's

31:53

it's terribly sad moments and then

31:55

there's also funny element to a tooth that

31:58

see to straddles that line so perfectly i

32:00

don't think queen was successful if we

32:02

know sally feel the whole million

32:04

i think like the ideal yeah

32:07

all event is like leave our

32:09

like is is motherhood so

32:11

much of the fire and her greatness comes

32:13

from that experience

32:15

and comes from telling those stories

32:17

so like queen latifah i think is a brilliant

32:20

actress and a lot of ways

32:22

there and she is a mother pay

32:24

as you have bankrolled by like

32:26

that's not at the core of late

32:29

the art that she's trying to make in

32:31

the same way so would make month but she couldn't

32:33

access it in the same way i might i'll never forget sally

32:35

field version i don't remember queens

32:37

i love her i do not remember and

32:40

and i'm a queen to i love living single

32:42

i love you and i t y i love all

32:44

of the things it's just as just at that

32:46

mon ss that the

32:48

are it's a difficult expectation

32:51

because the original was so

32:54

good and so right let's see

32:56

we can make this better as thieves i'm

32:58

that's something super interesting have you ever feel

33:01

like

33:01

when you step into make an adaptation

33:04

the actually really ambitious right egg

33:06

making a fire island movie space on

33:09

one of the best novels of all time

33:11

and ike i have stress my nightmares

33:13

to this day of like being

33:15

put in a role of even like as

33:17

an actor or something and like just knowing

33:20

that i'm failing at it i'm thinking of what's

33:23

, name from ripples drag race the got got

33:26

in in rent live on the live the

33:29

and just couldn't saying just could not

33:31

saying it's and is angel in the red

33:33

musical i'm just like i have stressed

33:35

dreams about being in that situation like saying

33:37

yes to a thing and then realizing

33:39

my crafts will not do the

33:41

source material see justice

33:44

right it is but the thing

33:46

is thing that's why i'm saying it like getting

33:48

into the spirit of it's men and then not necessarily

33:50

having to make not necessarily perfect i'm

33:53

ah adaptation and having the additives

33:55

in itself be another type of work of arts i

33:57

did not know kent's that you were

33:59

abroad the girl i don't know why i didn't

34:01

pick up on that before so i have a question whoa

34:04

wow that's crazy that's like one

34:06

of the biggest things about me like i'm a theater

34:08

kit alright alright in in that respect

34:12

what , been your favorite

34:14

movie adaptation of a musical a

34:17

and is there and musical that you would like

34:19

to see adapted that hasn't been adapted yeah

34:22

whoa okay

34:24

it hard them the movie adaptations

34:27

of musicals a hard to do well

34:29

they really are they really really are i think

34:37

i mean i think the original west side story

34:39

is amazing my think that

34:41

is asses that's like and

34:43

amazing pass and it's an amazing

34:45

show

34:47

i get also shoutout lion king for the

34:49

reverse of that like the show from

34:52

the movie is in saying

34:54

it's like one of my

34:56

they read experiences i've ever had

34:58

on broadway like i'm just sages real

35:00

the get that

35:03

sometimes i don't know sometimes i feel a

35:05

thing senate be adapted by

35:08

hi i actually am excited

35:10

to see the wicked adaptation and an added

35:12

one that i would have said like i would

35:15

be interested in seeing that adapted

35:18

to and it's have a movie and it's happening

35:20

with ariana grande day ah tao

35:23

and i love i saw

35:25

them ariana with each other as

35:27

that it's also campy and ridiculous i

35:29

feel like it really lends itself for like two

35:31

the into a movie but

35:34

bad as it does area to the area

35:36

have

35:37

the alphabet voice

35:40

i think he's not playing alphabet i think

35:42

she's playing

35:43

the going to under vendor yeah

35:45

although he actually sorry on broadway seeds

35:47

yeah so does have a really good i don't think also

35:49

that but glenda

35:50

sir yeah that would man

35:52

hi i'm deathly excited to see that's

35:55

ah

35:59

i actually

35:59

like the hairspray one that came out like

36:02

two thousand psi or two

36:04

thousand

36:04

yeah i'll go until john

36:07

travolta yeah has been

36:09

the as i like sell and now i'm was really

36:11

cute and lie yeah

36:14

i mean

36:15

the so many my mind is like cisco

36:17

and things our solar i mean i realized

36:20

that zac efron was kind of hot

36:22

as the phrase i used at the time

36:25

kind of why was like kind of those

36:27

hot yeah is

36:28

we we can't talk about adaptations

36:31

m broadway without talking about the color

36:33

purple see cause i saw an

36:35

adaptation of a book to a

36:37

musical that is now being adapted

36:39

to a lot of when it like a red

36:41

lives like a it's it's gonna be color purple

36:43

life wow i didn't know

36:45

that but also as i feel

36:47

like and i could be wrong or but i feel like

36:49

it is it is totally an adaptation

36:52

of the book but i feel like it has the movie aspects

36:54

of the film of yeah do them on

36:56

your bill as part of the world building

36:58

of the music library of yeah

37:00

so it's like an adaptation of adaptation movie of a book

37:02

you know and they're all ran of and combo of

37:05

it's amazing

37:06

it is so good eyesight that's one of those

37:08

mans idea that is like really good

37:10

throughout all adaptations like

37:13

i'm nervous or the new ones has it be really scary

37:15

to fuck up a like it really

37:17

that original work and think militia

37:20

it works it in a loving and giving

37:22

but it's so it's you know if if you think

37:24

about like what goes on in that

37:27

look and movie and you think

37:29

broadway musical a dozen a dozen

37:31

it wasn't my brain it doesn't immediately i liked

37:33

or this is totally gonna be amazing mom

37:36

but then you go into it and it

37:38

totally was amazing and it totally works

37:41

and it's like how many good artist or choices

37:43

had to be made brian from be getting to

37:45

and from book to music a cast staying

37:47

to directions to set you

37:50

know n n that is just that when

37:52

it works it works you know and i'm a buddhist unexpected

37:54

when you are like since that sounds

37:57

like like it is not going to be good

37:59

and and you go see in your like floor that is

38:01

just the best yeah right ray i

38:03

was another one or another one of my

38:05

favorite adaptations of you guys have seen

38:07

it the movie

38:09

from a broadway show i'm gentle i

38:13

mean i have an answer that

38:16

is one of my favorite of all time gentle

38:18

been it then i've seen i've never i've

38:20

mean i was i've never seen this the play

38:22

i've only seen the race i don't know if know if

38:24

what was promised if it was the now that he's and now

38:27

but that's the maze i was and is

38:29

it's just so

38:30

oh god i think i think

38:32

the people that are adapting just have to be

38:34

really have to take i'm really tough

38:36

choices of a is fan what

38:38

is take out and they really i

38:40

feel like everyone as be super line for the

38:42

art to still be at that level

38:45

the eye on my end to that to that extent

38:48

hi again personal opinion excoriate

38:51

me council me whatever i don't

38:53

think please make for the best adaptation

38:55

and to sell because because

38:58

i wanna see

38:59

the

39:01

is it i wanted to

39:03

be able to use all of the tools of the medium

39:06

right three and i'm so thinking but you know and when

39:08

we were in initial talks to turn food for

39:10

thought it's like some kind of television show or

39:12

a it was like i wanted to be more than

39:14

what we do but with cameras on in

39:16

our right to be different than that because it's

39:18

not utilizing the full potential of

39:21

television is it's just the for people

39:23

talking linux is like you can actually

39:25

just listen to the show the

39:28

end to that degree i mean i think about stuff

39:30

and so they were bad because the source material

39:32

is quite good but it's a with for

39:34

example like martinis black bottom

39:37

or senses it when it was just so

39:39

clearly a straight up like

39:42

the the are do anything else to explore

39:44

the medium that it was being trans they didn't use

39:46

any relic i didn't i

39:48

did know that my radio like bottom was a plate

39:50

as i have read it before but even

39:53

if i didn't have a like this is a straight up play like

39:55

is a jelly animal farm incest and like

39:57

moving like a different scenes or whatever integral and in

39:59

an uproar

39:59

the like you are confined to the stage

40:02

right and that's why yeah answers takes

40:04

place in one house and marini like bottom

40:06

takes place in one club and

40:09

and so it's sort of

40:10

the i've if it can it can feel

40:12

you notice the convention swears in a play

40:15

is to sort that at has to be that way

40:17

in their ways to sort of break those walls

40:19

down and stuff but you definitely notice

40:21

it in a movie when when you're like this

40:23

is i feel like i'm watching a

40:25

film version of the place was actually kind of

40:27

it would be into i would be more interested in that

40:29

right like actually filming at

40:32

the play and room and releasing it and releasing

40:34

it that way i think i

40:36

definitely think it's a little bit of a to holler order

40:39

but i'm a lot of of a lot of different minds on

40:41

it cause i really loved i already

40:43

have black bottom as a movie but yeah i

40:46

was like a sort of like m to seeing the play

40:48

by

40:49

like this is not like when i was

40:51

in adenauer me be high school or

40:53

maybe middle school and tyler perry was first

40:56

coming up and doing like his musicals

40:58

and plays like on the to answer guess my

41:00

mom would get v h asses

41:03

of at like gets her oh my god same

41:05

loves his own they were just there was this it

41:08

it , as an aggro the filming at

41:11

at hand held device in the theater

41:13

and selling at man when i was right

41:15

so i kept thinking of like those

41:18

moments when i was watching lane

41:20

markings by bottom or when i was watching spend

41:22

says and i would obviously this is an enormous upgrade

41:24

from that like that's a huge and salt maybe some parents

41:27

but i guess because it didn't do more

41:29

with the new medium i still

41:31

like thought about a little bit arm and

41:33

so that was really interesting to meet but there's

41:35

this movie that i watched this was a

41:37

long time ago to this was in college i think it was

41:39

cop it's called proof and it and had

41:41

meryl streep and a high the sky jake

41:43

greenberg and i think uma

41:47

thurman and apps and that was also

41:49

film adaptation of what was originally was play

41:51

and that's all like they really like made really film

41:54

like it didn't feel like they just ah

41:57

you know just meet at luck way

42:00

the play on cameras

42:03

and then i thought about i'm

42:05

kerry washington actually did an adaptation of

42:07

a broadway play the she was in and forty nine team

42:09

called american science where does all about

42:12

yeah black woman it to

42:14

people whose in in in a result relationship

42:16

with a white husband who as a cop like a higher

42:19

level cops and on

42:21

see that a police station and they're looking for her

42:23

side an arm and that furthest

42:25

as her and police officers and on

42:27

her husband comes and then there's all those moments of

42:29

them assuming you know is like a

42:31

year of it added the us anyway i

42:34

watched watched and the whole plane

42:37

the whole reason why they made that as

42:40

a netflix adaptation film adaptation was

42:42

so that more people could see it then

42:45

you know could obviously get to broadway and had a relatively

42:47

limited ryan's you know bribery tickets

42:49

are expensive and so they wanted is

42:51

this to be available to everyone and so there was

42:53

no interest in really meeting

42:55

in a film beyond that

42:58

i'm and so watching that with that in mind

43:00

and knowing that it was sort of i to stand in for

43:02

the broadway experience i thought was also really

43:04

interesting and different an anti that

43:06

yeah yeah i am and another one site one

43:08

more don't talk about because this is actually a little bit of

43:10

my my billie i'd very interested in like

43:12

three plays more so than musicals and how they're adopted

43:15

is august osage county so

43:17

i follow me right after he graduated from

43:19

i am i say it was phenomenal like

43:21

insane insane insane insane gorgeous

43:24

gorgeous gorgeous like play the

43:27

and then the the film came out

43:29

and that was another time i was like they'd be

43:31

like have made the ssl like they made

43:34

the michelle that was the intent that was the goal

43:36

and i salt lake it's sort of did

43:38

what an adaptation is supposed to do

43:41

thou i'm a good one i've

43:43

a question for ya

43:45

our i do we need more adaptations

43:48

of or modernizations of shakespeare

43:51

or of stay and are the things that have sort

43:53

of been adapted to desks that

43:55

are usually a part of the you

43:57

know the white

43:59

western

43:59

quote unquote literary canon the

44:02

interesting stuff

44:04

i mean i think and we don't need

44:06

them but i think sometimes when they're

44:08

well done

44:09

enjoy it like i enjoy

44:11

it little women even though there's been like fifteen

44:13

of those motherfuckers or rated

44:15

and you didn't you like a clueless re

44:18

re re written by

44:20

i think that's more interesting but

44:22

i think that serve first

44:24

are getting things made lake would this is like

44:26

when i go into meeting thoroughly like what are you looking to

44:28

adapt what are you looking to adapt their like as

44:30

felix so many people are at this point and

44:34

, not not people the investors

44:36

that make up read zach bone

44:38

of hollywood's are are

44:41

less likely at this point to

44:43

take a risk on an original idea rather

44:45

than something that is eyepiece that has

44:48

been an article that has proven at least

44:50

some interests and i think going back to sort

44:52

of think the shakespeare's stuff i mean ultimately

44:57

good storytelling they

44:59

knew air and that that is

45:02

did the that these works has

45:05

sarah vaughan have survived to a certain extent

45:08

is because of the conventions of

45:10

story that they inhabit

45:12

right arm it but like i

45:14

think you could bare bones play to take any

45:18

shakespeare

45:19

the

45:20

play or into the

45:23

more prominent ones and like just lay that in

45:26

a contemporary contacts and you would have a new stories

45:29

right the most interesting i don't know i think

45:31

how many hide some stories

45:33

are there there's like basically seven types of

45:36

stories i think lakes it's a kind of

45:38

actually limited when you advise them are

45:40

main path adam and it

45:43

, think having an original i mean it's this

45:45

is actually i was thinking about the other

45:47

another question which was like is there something that seems

45:50

like an adaptation to you the actually was

45:52

original material and i kept thinking

45:54

of nice out which it seems like such

45:56

an assertive you

45:58

know forgive screaming august

46:00

races but agatha christie novel or

46:02

something like that mean it was a who done it it seemed

46:04

like it was a book but it was absolutely

46:07

and original idea and i think that's the

46:09

reason that people responded i mean i did

46:11

like knives out i think the reason that got em

46:13

such high praise was because

46:15

it was actually an original idea that felt like

46:17

an ip just to be real shady

46:21

that name names who are literary

46:23

writers who section is bad

46:26

because it's just trying to be a mini series

46:31

well as annie dillard would say

46:33

says when she's reading

46:35

a author who's clearly

46:38

gunning for an adaptation i smell a

46:40

rat smell a rat

46:43

v are being very quiet

46:45

over there you

46:47

know

46:50

before i was employ

46:52

this i made such on and

46:54

on this quest adams the are you

46:57

learning are you wordings it said not

46:59

speak your mind all the time everywhere

47:02

you know sometimes my

47:05

voice doesn't always the to be included

47:08

wow wow

47:13

you learn in your thirties

47:16

wow that i mean d i

47:18

am i am astonished emre as

47:20

a proud maybe otterness i

47:22

think we're not going to name names but it is

47:25

definitely something like like the iowa

47:27

voice like when you pick up a short story collection

47:29

or novel and you're like this person with

47:31

iowa and you will get the back cover and indeed

47:33

they did go to iowa i do this i

47:35

do think there's something noticeable

47:38

about the stories that are set

47:40

up

47:41

there be

47:42

adapt the you know that are basically the

47:44

novel as ip generation and i don't actually don't

47:46

think it's riders false or this is

47:48

how publishing makes money

47:50

yeah like one of them you know and so there's

47:53

a whole pipeline there's a there's the novel

47:55

sue ah

47:57

i get the tv miniseries

47:59

the pipeline and now horse riders are

48:02

poor and they need money and they're writing

48:04

into that ip generation space and

48:06

god god bless them i respect to the hustle

48:08

yeah i'm not i'm never mad

48:11

at a writer chasing a pay tax by

48:13

exactly i also when it comes

48:16

to vs beat highs

48:18

that is so prominent at this point

48:20

it is it's it's like almost

48:23

wrote if you just focus on telling

48:25

a good story there's

48:27

a good to and your book get some attention there's

48:29

a good chance of there will be enforced

48:32

may in that world so

48:35

the be writing literary fiction for

48:37

that purpose like best have caught the middle line

48:39

and write a screenplay the guy if now

48:41

i realize your home i write a screenplay

48:44

you'll get more money guys i'm like why last

48:46

time i guess that i would say

48:49

right the article with the idea

48:52

that you are going to adapt to yourself

48:54

there is bob married mcginty view

48:56

and i have talked a lot about that

48:58

and there is bar that's it that's it

49:00

and that's a little bit of a different things i'll never

49:02

forget the remember where

49:04

net pressure space on the novel push by sapphire

49:06

came out meaning that met when the film

49:08

adaptation came out and on

49:10

one of the things she kept talking about as that lead the annals

49:13

was teasing her for years to get

49:15

the option to do to do that some

49:17

because for many many years she was

49:19

like i didn't write this to be a farm i don't want

49:21

it to be a thelma side intended to be a sound

49:24

and i'm not as i don't i want how to control

49:26

that it's gonna be good the and and is

49:28

that was very important to her

49:31

up you know up until a certain plane i'm

49:33

when he convinced her then

49:36

i always ate is always think about that because

49:38

i truly don't know well you know

49:40

one of the when i'm in a conversation from going

49:42

to sell if i wasn't gonna one and adaptation

49:45

or what that does either still now i am i have

49:47

no idea yeah tell me that the

49:49

whole me about that is that is the direct deposit

49:52

right and and it and you and you get to a

49:54

really difficult choices

49:56

between

49:58

the artistic control the

50:00

hands what your direct deposit with

50:02

like

50:03

and you know i think it in in a

50:05

world with some a scarcity for creative professionals

50:08

it's hard to fault people for putting their financial

50:10

security or front of mine especially

50:12

if they're a person for whom that you know that paycheck

50:15

can change their life and allow

50:17

them to have stability i don't certainly don't

50:19

search stats and all but it

50:21

is also you know

50:23

it can get in the way of the art being

50:26

as good as it could possibly be and that's

50:28

what you said before job i like making

50:30

sure of how place is adapting

50:33

for example color purple tubes from a book

50:35

to a movie to a shell of how

50:37

many good decisions had to be made

50:39

yeah you know and the site at every point

50:42

there needs to be i

50:46

mean i just in my limited experience

50:48

in this world executives

50:51

are do not want things that

50:53

stand out you know they want things

50:55

that ready for months and

50:58

said to make something at all is all miracle

51:00

but to make something good is just else

51:03

addict that you're

51:05

always gonna say that the in and that degree i

51:07

mean it's another thing that was so

51:09

good i thought it must have been adapted in it definitely

51:11

wasn't was everything everywhere all

51:13

at once and demeaning was kind

51:16

of zeit guys the in the sense that likes the seekers

51:18

the daniels initially were researching

51:20

the concept of a multi verse in twenty

51:23

ten and it's it's interesting because you

51:25

know in the years since we've gotten

51:29

you know for hid morty and we've gotten

51:32

a multiverse of madness and it seems

51:34

like and spiderman into the into the

51:36

spider verse or whatever it seems like there is some

51:38

kind of consensus about

51:41

looking to other worlds i think maybe because

51:43

this one is so city but i'm not an

51:45

utter yes been as as you had

51:47

to the hour and a you go i

51:49

was a killer i want to want to end this combo

51:52

by talking about moonlights arm

51:54

which of course that is it talk about

51:56

a successful adaptation of a play isn't

51:58

arm and no i'm friends

52:01

of friends with tourette's he

52:03

wasn't involved in the writing of the script the

52:05

adaptation are all he sort of allowed the

52:07

source material to be used you know

52:09

and and then it was made by a straight

52:11

person but how many amazing

52:14

decisions you know it's like to think we talk about with representation

52:16

like is a straight person the best person to make

52:18

moonlight maybe not a whole we spotted

52:20

they make a shit ton of fucking good decisions

52:23

losing to adapt the fuck out

52:25

of that plays into what is

52:27

a film that is visually stunning

52:30

acted incredibly well there

52:32

you know if so please see get

52:34

like it a soap it is no fucking

52:36

miami it is so that place

52:39

when you know the play his onstage

52:41

so is not necessary going to have that our van

52:43

and one where idea

52:46

would never have thought it was an adaptation if i if

52:49

i hadn't to somehow known that draws

52:51

most as my it was happening by

52:53

his ass i actually talk about moonlight

52:55

a lot when i am having conversations with like

52:57

writers have a few times about riding across the friends

53:00

be highs

53:02

late august the edo

53:05

the mayor was the source material and barry jenkins

53:07

as far as we know of the now is

53:09

add the heterosexual mans by

53:11

it the that is

53:13

why and and there are many

53:16

examples out there i'm through

53:18

you know decades of that but that's one

53:20

really great example of someone

53:22

who doesn't necessarily share every identity

53:25

that's at the center and the core of the

53:27

art and still late

53:29

i do not think there was a better

53:31

person to do that some outside and

53:33

like like i do not think there was i think it

53:36

should have been barry jenkins was look

53:38

when he dared say mean it's extraordinary

53:40

cel it's

53:43

a reminder for people also to spend it as

53:45

possible like very there's

53:47

in a lot of amount of care and talents

53:50

and nuance and and and

53:52

all these different things that have to go into working

53:54

across difference really well and do and really

53:56

doing it's ss and it can be done

54:02

no but

54:04

my i admit

54:07

admit oh yes oh yes and

54:10

to the the cherry on top to sleep

54:12

then you

54:13

then do

54:14

i'm okay you

54:18

know when you're just like

54:19

current out from scrolling and

54:22

yeah pops up and your display

54:24

let me just try this said

54:26

yeah i'm sick of going through pages

54:29

, pages of contents so that happened

54:31

to us an eye on apple

54:33

tv and we were

54:35

targeted i guess marketed this show called

54:38

loot with maya rudolph and

54:40

it's essentially about essentially billionaires

54:42

you play the wife of a billionaire who get seated

54:44

on i'm but there's no peanuts

54:47

so when she gets the divorce

54:49

she gets the money oh my god

54:51

and he also gets his foundation

54:54

so it has

54:56

made a dream as resist

54:58

the regime oh my god

55:00

as the say that i mean

55:02

it just isn't in johann

55:04

booster plays her assistant amazing shut

55:07

out joel he's so funny and also

55:09

his like his outfits are just so so

55:11

amazing i'm so basically

55:13

yeah she becomes like eighty five eighty

55:16

seven billionaire i'm eighty

55:18

seven billion dollars in her bank account and

55:21

but she has no purpose so she decided

55:23

the run the foundation she's

55:26

a really rich woman she does not know how

55:28

to run the foundation so it plays a lot

55:30

with class and it's interesting because

55:32

he's black he's like

55:34

a super a super super black of until

55:37

the third richest woman in america

55:39

in the shell and then

55:41

she's like working with everyone that's lower class

55:43

or work

55:43

the class and it's just a super like

55:45

com the like even with last and poverty

55:48

and placing going on they

55:50

were told in a way that i will i was able to look past

55:53

didn't just

55:53

the the comedy for what it is

55:57

it's completely absurd but like and the best

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