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a damn we got a lot of golf stuff

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to talk about I've got yeah

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I've got this, uh, the

4:01

Dutch golfers being denied that talk about

4:03

there's some crazy stuff to talk about.

4:07

So for people who, you know, who don't know,

4:09

so the Olympics and, and,

4:11

and we've talked about Olympic qualification

4:13

methods in really in the, in the

4:15

context of Bryson before, cause he didn't make it when him

4:17

Clark made it despite when him Clark playing really like do

4:19

do most of the summer price was playing great because

4:22

it's tied to this list, this Olympic points list.

4:25

It's like a two year rolling thing and

4:27

it's tied and that's from the IOC. That's

4:29

from the IOC or is it

4:31

from the list? Yeah, I think it's

4:33

like the Olympic golf committee, whatever, but

4:35

it, but it's, it's tied pretty much

4:38

directly to the world ranking. So the

4:40

rules are if you're in the top

4:42

15, you're in no matter what,

4:44

unless your country has more than four guys in the top

4:47

15, that only applies to the U S. So the U

4:49

S has like seven guys in the top 15, only

4:51

the top four make it every other country. Yeah, we

4:53

lost the rider cup. Every

4:57

other country has two guys basically going in

4:59

or one, depending on how it worked out.

5:01

So the Dutch team, two, two men and

5:04

two women qualified for the Olympics. You

5:06

used loitin, Darius van

5:08

Driel and van dam who people might know cause

5:10

she's like the most beautiful golf swing in the

5:12

history of the world. And then this girl, Davi

5:15

Weber, Viber, I don't know how it's pronounced the

5:17

last name, the Dutch Olympic

5:19

committee just said, Nope, you

5:22

guys, aren't good enough to represent the Netherlands

5:24

in golf, which I thought that

5:27

can't possibly be true. Surely there's some sort

5:29

of backstory here. You know, maybe these people

5:31

aren't Dutch or maybe they piss somebody off.

5:33

Nope. The Dutch Olympic committee basically

5:35

decided that three out of the four people,

5:37

despite them qualifying are just

5:39

not good enough to represent the Netherlands in golf in

5:42

the Olympics, which is weird on a couple levels.

5:44

Number one, the Netherlands is like one of the

5:47

rare, the richest countries in the world. So

5:49

like, I don't really understand the downside. Isn't

5:51

Netherlands to one of them, like happier countries

5:53

in the world? Isn't that, I think

5:56

they're always like top five in like happiest

5:58

population. happy and wealthy and good looking and

6:00

tall, you know, that's a good country. It's

6:02

a good thing they've got going over there.

6:04

So I don't understand what the downside is.

6:06

If it's just about like, is it a

6:08

money thing? Is it really, is money so

6:10

tight that they can't send these Olympic athletes

6:12

to represent them? And then the number two,

6:14

it's not like the Netherlands has this like

6:16

proud golf history where, you know, they, they

6:18

can't, they can't handle the embarrassment of these.

6:21

No Dutch man or woman has ever

6:23

won a major championship ever. And the

6:25

third thing is you, Sloane, the guy

6:28

who the, the, the

6:30

higher ranked of the two men who qualified, he's

6:32

number 148 in the world right now. And I

6:34

understand the world rankings are not great, but

6:37

last Olympics, literally last Olympics,

6:40

the silver medalist was Rory Sabatini. He was

6:42

161 in the world. And

6:44

the bronze medalist was CT pan, who was

6:47

181st in the world. It makes zero sense

6:52

in the world of golf. That is crazy

6:54

because anybody could win any week. I did

6:56

love the more I dug into this. I

6:59

sort of loved the ruthlessness

7:01

and the bluntness of this

7:03

from the Netherlands. So

7:05

you're kind of, you're kind of messaging.

7:08

Dude, one of their criteria, it says

7:10

per the Netherlands Olympic committee slash Dutch

7:12

sports Federation, it has set

7:15

internal standards for all sports to

7:17

meet a quote realistic

7:19

chance, unquote of a place in the

7:21

top eight and the Olympics. And so

7:23

their internal system looked at these

7:26

three out of these four and determined

7:28

that the three of them have absolutely

7:30

zero realistic chance of finishing inside the

7:32

top eight at the Olympics. So they

7:35

said, we're not dragging your asses over

7:37

to Paris. If you're not going

7:39

to finish inside the top eight or even

7:42

have a chance, we're not hooking you up with

7:44

all the gear. We're not paying for your hotel

7:46

rooms. We're not marching you out there to the

7:48

stadium with the torch. You can sit your ass

7:51

at home until you prove you can finish inside

7:53

the top eight. Absolutely preposterous

7:55

move by them. It says the additional

7:57

requirements have been in place since golf.

7:59

turn to Rio in 2016, women must

8:02

be among the top 24 in the

8:04

Olympic golf rankings. The men must be

8:06

inside the top 27. The Olympics

8:09

truly are in a lot of ways.

8:12

One of the few things where a

8:14

participation medal is kind of a

8:17

goal. Like I, you know, obviously there's certain

8:19

elite athletes in certain sports where the Olympics

8:21

and you're a threat and you're there to

8:23

win gold and that's it. But

8:25

the vast majority, it's insanely cool to be

8:27

able to say for the rest of your

8:30

life that you were an Olympian. You represented

8:32

your country in this global

8:36

festival, celebrating sport and

8:38

athleticism and competition. And

8:41

you don't actually get a participation medal, but like

8:43

that's the one instance where you get the thought

8:45

to, you get to flaunt that. Yeah. Get your

8:47

fucking tattoo shout out to Ricky and you get

8:49

to flaunt your participation medal for the rest of

8:52

your life. I was an Olympian. That's sick. You

8:54

got all these photos you're able to frame around

8:56

your home for the rest of your life. If

8:58

you walk it in, you did the whole deal,

9:00

the opening ceremony, you were there. It's great. You

9:02

got all the gear, probably have a sick golf

9:05

bag from the Netherlands. You can do all kinds of cool

9:07

stuff and they're getting denied of

9:09

that, which sucks. But again,

9:11

I, a part of me, like I

9:13

would, I would love to hear the

9:15

rebuttal from this committee that

9:18

would look at this and be like, no,

9:20

you were not bringing you over there. You guys

9:22

just aren't good enough. Sucks

9:25

for them preposterous, but part of me

9:27

kind of laughed when I read that.

9:29

Of course you did. That doesn't surprise

9:31

me. No realistic chance of a top

9:33

eight. And apparently the Netherlands Golf Federation, which

9:35

is I guess, like the, you know, the USDA

9:37

of the Netherlands, they made like a presentation being

9:39

like, well, you know, it's not, it's not

9:41

really similar to track and field where like someone

9:44

can just run faster than the other person and then they're just

9:46

going to beat them every time. And there's no chance like golf

9:48

is there's this guy, this guy used

9:50

to win six times on the, on the, um,

9:52

European tour. He's made the cut in 12 of

9:54

the 21 majors that he's played in. The other

9:56

guy won a DP world tour event four

9:59

months. ago. So like they're

10:01

16 year olds. You know, it ain't, it

10:03

ain't swimming where it's like, no, the fastest

10:06

swimmers are going to just win gold,

10:08

silver and bronze. Like this is golf. Anyone

10:10

like it. Once you're at a certain level,

10:12

I get it's more likely that anyone can

10:14

finish. I think they showed like from the,

10:17

um, the women's KPMG PGA last week, one

10:19

of the girls ranked like 260th in the

10:22

world and finished like fifth or something like

10:24

that. And so clearly you

10:26

can, you can, you can be a

10:29

professional golfer. I mean, our boy, Alistair Daugherty

10:31

showed up to a second PGA tour event

10:33

in his life and finished second beat all

10:35

kinds of PGA tour, you know, players, winners,

10:37

whatever. So it is, um, it's a preposterous

10:39

move by the Dutch. We had to talk

10:41

about that story. And like I said, part

10:43

of me kind of loves it. Good for

10:46

them. Um, I'm actually going to the Netherlands

10:48

next weekend. I never been to another one.

10:50

Really? For what? Uh, I'm going to Amsterdam,

10:53

uh, for Taylor Swift concert with our

10:55

friend, Josh. Are you kidding me?

10:57

There's got to be a lady involved in this.

10:59

I told you, no, I told you about this

11:01

last year, Bush. It's one of those things that

11:03

like future rigs, you know, agreed to and knew

11:05

about. And now it's all of a sudden here.

11:07

But like a year ago, if folks

11:09

recall, I went to the era store

11:11

show in Pittsburgh with Josh, who's a

11:14

huge Swifty, um, pull our from our

11:16

merchandise team. She was there with one

11:18

of her friends and we had

11:20

a great time. She made like, um, Taylor Swift,

11:22

you know, friendship bracelets for all of us with

11:24

the old, what's your song on it and the

11:26

whole deal. We had a great time. Well, Josh

11:28

is a, is a massive Swifty as well. A

11:30

massive he's been to a bunch of shows as

11:32

of last year. And he hit me up around

11:34

this time last year, maybe a little later and

11:37

was like, Hey, there's a show. I think it's

11:39

a July 6th Saturday in, uh,

11:43

Amsterdam. Do you want to go? And I was like, yeah,

11:45

of course. I want to go. Sure. I get not thinking

11:47

too much of it. We went back and forth about it

11:49

over the last year here and there. Well, now all of

11:51

a sudden it's here. And so next weekend, we

11:54

are flying to Amsterdam and

11:57

we're going to hang for a couple of

11:59

days. We're going to the or Swift show

12:01

on Saturday night. I think we're doing like

12:03

a canal cruise and then Sunday because

12:05

we'll pick up a bunch of time or fly back. I'm

12:07

going to get on a plane. I'm going to fly back

12:10

to Phoenix and I'll be ready for the podcast the Monday

12:12

after 4th of July week. Are you guys flying air Isner?

12:15

Yep. And we've got a hell of a crew. I'm

12:17

not going to reveal the crew in case something falls

12:19

through or, you know, it's almost like you don't want

12:21

to reveal a guest before you get the guest in

12:24

case, you know, whatever who knows. But afterwards,

12:26

and I imagined some of the pictures come out,

12:28

it's just quite the hell of a crew that

12:30

we've got going over there. So I, I will

12:32

report back on my findings. I'm going to ask

12:34

people about this incredibly strict criteria they've got for

12:36

their golfers. I imagine that's top of mind over

12:38

there in the Netherlands right now, but, but I'm

12:40

going to be there for the first time. I'm

12:43

very excited. Yeah. Well, the Netherlands, you know, the

12:45

sport, they are really proud of soccer.

12:47

They finished third in their group. They're going to advance as

12:49

a lucky loser, but they finished third in their group in

12:51

the Euro. So lucky loser. So yeah,

12:54

pretty soccer thing to have. So

12:57

basically there's, you know, Rick's is like, what

12:59

are you talking about? So

13:01

there's, I don't see him denying

13:03

that now. So there's, I'm

13:05

trying to do the math. So there's, um, four,

13:08

so the top two teams in the world cup, just

13:10

the top two teams from the group advance it's

13:12

in and it's clean because there's eight, there's eight groups.

13:15

And so the top two teams advance round of 16.

13:17

There's only, there's not eight groups. I don't know how

13:19

many groups there are in the euros. So the top

13:21

two from every group advance and then four out of

13:23

the, the top four other

13:25

six top four third place

13:27

finishers out of six third place finishers advance

13:30

as well. So really only

13:33

six, only eight teams get knocked. There's 24 teams

13:35

and only eight teams get knocked out. So the

13:37

Netherlands finished third in their group, but they're going

13:40

to advance. But yeah, so I made a video

13:42

yesterday about this and some guy responded a Dutch

13:44

guy and he said, I'm Dutch, you got to

13:46

do some, I need some investigative reporting over there.

13:49

He said, I'm Dutch played for the national water

13:51

polo 10 plus years. All I can say is

13:53

fuck the Dutch Olympic committee. They have never supported

13:55

any sports that didn't have a reasonable chance at

13:58

a metal. There's a whole. can of worms here

14:00

I don't want to open but I really appreciate

14:02

the support so you gotta you gotta figure out

14:04

what's going on over there telling you there the

14:06

more and more I learn about this committee I

14:09

love they just they only accept

14:11

greatness and they won't even give you

14:13

a chance if they don't think you

14:15

are are even close to

14:18

being able to win a medal which

14:20

again I kind of respect yes soccer

14:22

is I saw that the Casey

14:24

Smith and that crew they were doing you

14:28

know with the college World Series they

14:31

were doing like how many college World

14:33

Series how many college

14:36

basketball national titles

14:39

would you give

14:41

up for one college football

14:44

national title and you

14:46

know they were kind of going through obviously

14:48

like a trillion World Series which I think

14:50

is about right like you can't even win

14:52

enough to equal one like you'd rather have

14:54

one football national championship than have won every

14:56

college baseball World Series in history and

14:59

as a hockey guy you probably say the

15:01

same thing about hockey and then basketball it's

15:04

not as many March Madness a big fucking

15:06

deal where it's like three or five or

15:08

so but like football is so big that

15:10

I wonder if the Netherlands you

15:13

know international Olympic Committee whatever

15:16

would they give up every medal they've ever

15:18

earned in history for the Netherlands to win

15:20

the World Cup yes I think

15:22

I think they would yeah I think

15:24

they would I think it's I think a lot of these European

15:26

countries it's like it's soccer and then it's everything else this

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of Taylor Swift, Bush, I

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Scooter last night on Max. Have you

17:06

seen that? Is it good? I saw it,

17:08

I haven't seen it yet, but I saw it came out.

17:10

I don't wanna watch it. It's interesting the way that they

17:12

structure it. So there's, it's just two episodes. One of them

17:14

is Taylor's version, and then one of them is Scooter's version.

17:16

And so I only watched the Taylor's version one. But

17:19

it kind of seems to me that her

17:21

argument is just, I want these. Well, he's a

17:24

scumbag, but he just took them. Listen, is

17:26

the crux of her argument, I want

17:28

these. I deserve these. Why do I,

17:30

she sold them initially. I mean, I'm not gonna go

17:32

into the whole thing about it. I gotta watch more

17:34

before I- Riggs, you're gonna watch it, Yeah,

17:36

Riggs, you're gonna be on Scooter's side. But I'll

17:39

say, Scooter, whether

17:42

it's this particular instance or not, Scooter's done a

17:44

lot of stuff that's shitty. That's like, been

17:46

bad. So I, on this particular

17:48

instance, if I were like a lawyer and

17:51

I'm picking it apart piece by piece, I

17:53

have no idea the details either, but I

17:55

do understand. We had a very funny moment

17:57

when we filmed the video with Jake Owen,

17:59

Morgan Wall, and Derek- various rocker and hardy

18:01

where we're like four or five holes in everybody's drinking

18:04

and Jake Owen was like, how could we not have

18:06

any musical? We got to play some music. And we

18:08

were like, yeah, we can't have music playing when we

18:11

film videos because of all the rights. And

18:13

he's like, no, no, like we'll put on our music

18:15

playlist. Like we're like, yeah, you don't like own your

18:17

music. And he was like, what the fuck are you

18:19

talking about? We're like, yeah, no, like if

18:21

we play that music and this is a

18:23

commercial enterprise, we're making money off of these

18:25

videos and someone else owns the

18:27

music, they could sue us because you can't

18:29

profit off of someone else's work that they

18:32

own. And it took them a second, but

18:34

ultimately we got to the conclusion of like,

18:36

yeah, no, you don't own your music. Someone

18:38

owns your music. You sold the music. They

18:40

pay you. That's how you got your career

18:42

started, whatever the intricacies of it are. I

18:44

don't know. I don't have any idea on

18:46

the details of the Taylor

18:48

Swift Scooter Braun stuff. I know that,

18:51

what was it? Miss Americano or whatever?

18:53

Is that the documentary on Netflix? It's

18:55

Taylor Swift Bush. Yeah, that's

18:57

a phenomenal documentary. I mean,

18:59

phenomenal. And probably made me a Swifty more than

19:02

anything else. Just like how,

19:04

yeah, there's all kinds of talk about

19:06

industry plants when it comes to music and

19:09

how really like a lot

19:11

of the stars kind of curtailed their music

19:13

to what almost like they're just tick

19:15

tockers. Like they're just curtailing it to like, whatever's going

19:17

to be the most popular and make them a huge

19:19

star. Whereas you got Taylor Swift out there right in

19:21

her own music. She's out there performing left and right.

19:24

I'm a huge fan of her overall. I don't know

19:26

the songs inside out. Not all of them. Some you

19:28

do, some you don't. But that documentary made

19:31

me a huge fan. I will say

19:33

if it does come out that like you

19:35

sold it, you made the agreement and then you go back

19:37

on your agreement. I don't care who you are, what situation

19:39

you are. I'm going to side on like

19:42

the person who is getting screwed in

19:44

that deal. But I, I

19:46

believe it's way more complicated

19:49

than that. And that people that

19:51

like Dave, for example, Dave's a pretty rational

19:53

person. He like looks at things pretty rational

19:55

for the most part, unless it deals with

19:57

like New England athletics. But I know he

19:59

He's been like anti-scooter for a long time. And I

20:02

would guess that he looked at a lot of the

20:04

facts and was like, no, Taylor Swift's got screwed. So

20:06

I doubt that I'm gonna be on that side. I

20:09

doubt that I'm gonna be on that side. Yeah, I mean,

20:11

she became like Michael Jackson. And so, you know,

20:13

a reasonable person probably would have been like, okay,

20:15

we can figure something out here. And he really

20:17

wanted to like hold the letter of the law,

20:19

which was not cool. But I just

20:22

wanted to fire up Bush a little bit. Yeah, like

20:24

rather than, no, I get that. He seemed like that

20:26

kind of guy where it's like, no, no, I thought

20:28

we were like, you were my manager,

20:30

you kind of like helped make my career. We're

20:32

in this together. Is this like a partnership or

20:34

is this like a legal contract? This is essentially,

20:36

I feel like where a lot of these

20:38

things go, which gets ridiculous, where it's like most

20:41

people on most have a human connection to

20:43

any deal that you do. And you're not

20:45

gonna hold someone to the letter of the

20:47

law that is like not only your associate

20:50

and client, but like a friend. But also Bush,

20:52

he never managed it. He just bought the, he

20:54

bought the record label, right? Yeah, he didn't originally

20:56

have it. Basically his

20:59

company bought who had all

21:01

of her previous albums. So he

21:04

basically got it through the purchase.

21:07

So she sold it to this guy, Scott, who

21:10

they signed her to a six, whatever.

21:12

We don't need to get into this.

21:14

Anyways. It's like Big Machine Records had

21:16

it. Yeah, so she, this guy discovered

21:18

her or signed her to her first

21:20

deal, signed her to a six

21:22

album deal, which made my mouth like, that is

21:25

so many albums over like 13 years, I think it

21:27

is. And then he

21:29

sold, so he owned the masters and

21:32

then he sold his company to Scooter

21:34

Braun, who was like, according to Taylor,

21:36

like the last person she would ever

21:38

want to have it because of the

21:40

Kanye stuff. He's like Kanye.

21:42

Yeah, cause he signed with Kanye right after

21:45

famous. Yes, exactly. So yeah, okay. I'm looking

21:47

at it now. Essentially, yeah, that's

21:49

what happened. She, she signed

21:51

the deal. Someone else owned it. Those people

21:53

then sold it to Scooter, which pissed her

21:55

off because she's not a Scooter fan. And

21:58

that kind of started the whole thing. Yeah, now that

22:00

I'm thinking about it, that's really where it is. That

22:03

guy shouldn't just ... He just shouldn't have sold it

22:05

to Scooter. Yeah,

22:07

but also at that point, once you've ... Yeah,

22:10

it's always tough. It's almost like the founder of a company,

22:13

when they get to the point where they sold out, they made their

22:15

money, and then they're not upset when

22:17

that company gets resold or trims or goes

22:19

in a different direction. And it's like, well,

22:22

you sold that. You don't have any say. We get

22:24

that this is your company. So I

22:26

understand that. But it looks like she

22:29

was publicly clearly in the

22:31

process of trying to buy back all of it when that

22:33

kind of happened. Right. Yeah, she wanted

22:35

to buy it, which ... Okay. I take back what

22:37

I said earlier. I'm excited to watch that.

22:39

That's on Max? Is the whole thing on Max? Or is it

22:41

just they release in one episode at a time? No, both of

22:43

them are there. I'm going to watch the second one tonight. Two-part?

22:47

Yeah. All right. No, I'm

22:50

Swiftie. I'm going to go see her and

22:52

hopefully, as everything goes properly into the Netherlands

22:54

next week. And then I'm actually in the

22:56

process of booking a last second trip to

22:58

Wisconsin for this weekend. Where are you going?

23:01

Well, I was going to go to New York because

23:03

I've got to get to ... Basically, I've

23:05

got to get to the Boston area on

23:08

July 4th, 5th, so that I could catch

23:10

this airplane and go to Netherlands. And

23:13

I wasn't quite sure. I was going to go to New York

23:15

and kind of hang out, maybe play a little bit of golf.

23:18

And that kind of fell through. So then I

23:20

was going back and forth with some of my

23:22

Boston buddies and they were like, yeah, we can

23:24

get away for a weekend. So kind of looked

23:26

at a couple of different places. And I saw

23:28

that obviously the classics in La Clabelle, that's going

23:30

on while recording this Wednesday, which is a fantastic

23:32

spot. If people have never been there, it's like

23:34

20 minutes from Aaron Hills, La Clabelle. I was

23:36

there a few years ago, JJ Watt actually set

23:39

us up there of all people. He knows the

23:41

family, the owners that kind of run that whole

23:43

place. And he had hit me up relentlessly being

23:45

like, Hey, I know you love Aaron Hills. I

23:47

know you love Sand Valley. I know you've done

23:49

whistling straights. Next time you're in Wisconsin

23:51

playing golf, you got to go to my place.

23:53

And he had called in, set the whole thing

23:55

up, paid for our tea times, he paid for

23:58

our lunch. He wasn't even there. And me and

24:00

a couple of buddies played. played this Lachlobell track

24:02

and it's fantastic. They just redid the whole thing.

24:04

They've got a big putting green where they give

24:06

you like old hickory putters and turn the lights

24:08

on and you could putt all night. And anyways,

24:10

this is second straight year that we're hosting the

24:13

classic there. Trent's out there right now representing the Midwest.

24:15

I saw Francis there and it cooks there. So they

24:17

got quite the crew, but I was like, oh man,

24:19

Wisconsin, I don't have really any plans to go to

24:22

Wisconsin this year. I try to get

24:24

there every year to play golf. So I hit up

24:26

a few people out there and our boy Baker from

24:30

and Carter from

24:33

Sand Valley. We're like, I think we can squeeze you guys

24:35

in for a few days. So I think I'm doing like

24:37

a little Sand Valley, maybe player and Hills

24:39

a couple of days because we're like next week, our

24:41

office is closed. We've kind of already going to have

24:43

our podcast done. And I think I'm just going to

24:45

kind of tour through Wisconsin for a few days and

24:47

play a little bit of golf and Wisco. So I've

24:49

got a hell of a week coming up. It's also

24:51

110 degrees in Arizona. And

24:54

I know we say it's a dry heat, but we've

24:56

been getting these monsoons of all of a sudden started.

24:58

So I looked, it was like 46% humidity today and

25:00

110 degrees

25:03

out. You can't even fuck outside right now.

25:05

Yeah. No, Wisconsin in the summers is

25:08

tough to beat. I was blown away

25:10

by Aaron Hills when we were there last year.

25:12

It was just, just an incredibly beautiful place. Yeah.

25:14

My boy Brandon Carter's awesome at Sand Valley. I'm

25:17

excited to see him. Steve, our boy,

25:19

Steve P's from Aaron Hills who took care

25:21

of us there. He's playing in the, he

25:23

was supposed to play in the Marshall classic

25:25

today. He got sick. So unfortunately he couldn't play,

25:27

but hopefully see him around. We love Wisconsin. It

25:29

was constant. It's fucking great. People are so nice.

25:32

The terrain is gorgeous. It's, they're always in

25:34

such good shape because all winter long, they

25:36

got nothing, not even close. All that snow

25:38

melts. It's all like rich soil and grass

25:40

and it's just a great shape. So I

25:42

think I'm gonna do a little tour of Wisconsin

25:44

this weekend. I'm very excited. Get

25:51

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25:53

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27:24

legend. So try to play

27:27

professional golf. Has never played the

27:29

PGA Tour sanctioned event in his

27:31

career. He works at Golf Galaxy.

27:33

He really liked his chances

27:36

up at the Monday queue at the course and

27:39

the environment for the rocket

27:41

mortgage this week. So he

27:43

went up there, I believe he lives in Jacksonville or something

27:45

now. He went up there to play, shoot

27:47

seven under 65. At

27:50

the time that he finishes his round, it's

27:52

looking like that's going to just get through and

27:54

qualify for the tournament clean. So he's sitting

27:56

in the bar or on the outside patio,

28:00

having a couple of beers because it looks like he's good.

28:02

He's nervous as hell. He's been shaky. He said he

28:04

doesn't even remember his last couple of putts. And

28:06

Monday Q, Ryan French finds him, Googles him.

28:08

I heard the story at BGTore Radio. He

28:10

was like, it's very rare that

28:12

someone's at the top of a maniculist and I

28:15

don't know who they are. He's like, this is

28:17

my job. My whole name is Monday Q. I'm

28:19

looking. I'm like, who the hell's this? There's Ben's

28:21

guys. Like I Google them. Looks like the pictures

28:23

match up with this guy sitting in the bar.

28:25

I go talk with him, interview him. Just a

28:27

total legend who works at Golf Galaxy is out

28:29

there. Turns out three people, I think, in like

28:32

the last group or two come in

28:34

with 65 as well. So they have

28:36

a having a playoff. It goes eight holes because

28:38

I think it was four guys for three spots

28:41

ends up going eight holes. This guy gets

28:43

through and it's everywhere. It's on the New

28:45

York post. I saw all the golf accounts,

28:47

picked it up. Marshall sports.com picked it up.

28:49

But all time story to follow this week.

28:51

Kids responded and quote tweeted him and was

28:53

like, pair me with this guy, PGA tour.

28:56

So he has three beers in between. And

28:59

you know, he's asking him, I think like

29:01

French, he's kind of asking him about like, oh, you're

29:03

having beers. What if it goes to playoff? I mean,

29:06

he's like, I can have three beers. Three beers is

29:08

like perfect. Well, then it goes to the playoff. He

29:10

goes out, plays great after having three beers gets through

29:12

said he's calling into work because the next morning he's

29:14

supposed to work at like seven 30 in the morning.

29:16

He's like, that's obviously not going to work. So

29:19

phenomenal story with this guy is

29:21

alcohol because

29:23

Joel Damon, remember in Netflix, they showed that he

29:25

qualified for the US Open after having a couple

29:28

of white claws is

29:30

alcohol, a performance enhancer when

29:32

it comes to like, I'm not saying

29:34

no, Scotty Sheffler, it's not a performance enhancer,

29:36

but for a guy who is

29:39

going to be so fucking nervous, he's

29:41

never had, he's never been anywhere close to

29:43

the stage before. It's just a question. I

29:46

kind of wondered that as well. Like, are

29:48

you, are

29:50

you allowed to drink during a tournament? Like, could you

29:52

bring a bunch of booze in your bag and just

29:54

booze during a golf tournament? I

29:57

don't, I don't know what the rule is. I

29:59

really don't. I mean, I, I, I, guarantee there

30:01

have been guys, I mean, before this era of

30:04

fitness and this, that, and the other, I'm sure in

30:06

the eighties, there were guys who were drinking like all

30:08

the time, you know? Like,

30:10

I mean, I know like John Daly, John Daly

30:12

comes to mind, right? People, but I don't think

30:15

that like, I don't know for sure if he's

30:17

on record as being like in the middle of

30:19

PGA tour events. I was housing drinks. He rips

30:21

darts. He obviously has a bunch of like cokes,

30:23

diet cokes, and every drink was doing heroin. So

30:26

it's like, you know, Uh-huh.

30:28

I would imagine that's not legal, right?

30:30

Definitely not legal. I'm going to look

30:32

it up if alcohol is legal on

30:34

the PGA tour. The PGA tour allows

30:36

moderate consumption of alcohol after the rounds

30:38

have concluded or I'm going

30:40

to look this up for a second. I don't

30:43

think it's allowed water. After the rounds have concluded,

30:45

no shit. What are you going to tell somebody

30:47

that can't go drink it? Any member found to

30:49

be consuming an alcoholic beverage during any practice round

30:51

or tournament round, whether a pro-am round or a

30:53

tournament competition round on the practice

30:56

tee or putting green will be penalized.

30:58

That doesn't say anything about the team. Is that like

31:00

a fine? Is that like a two stroke penalty? I

31:03

wonder what that is. I don't know if that means

31:05

on the golf course trying to figure

31:07

this out because I think about that

31:09

too. I was like, that brings it a little

31:11

bit of an interesting question of like,

31:14

does he have a slightly unfair

31:16

advantage because he has gotten a little bit

31:18

tips. He take it literally taken the nerve

31:21

off in between, you know,

31:23

the finish and the play out. Like

31:25

I love it. I've done it before and

31:27

the first time I ever played in an official like

31:29

tournament with one of my buddies and we

31:32

were, we were an absolute disaster after like the

31:34

first hole I taught my tee shot. He made

31:36

like a bogey and we were like, holy shit,

31:38

we have to rip a shot. We took a

31:40

shot and then we played much better after that.

31:42

But I even thought in real time, I was

31:44

like, this feels like cheating. This is making everything

31:47

way easier. Yeah. You're not allowed.

31:50

You're not allowed to do it, but that's

31:52

what it seems. John

31:55

Daly admitted to downing five beers during

31:57

one L.A. Open and Chichi Rodriguez saw.

32:00

off a bottle of rum prior to his

32:02

master's debut and recorded, quotes, the

32:04

happiest 83 of my life. Incredible.

32:10

Absolutely incredible. Yeah. No, it

32:12

brings in an interesting question. I'm not sure where

32:14

this kid lives. Exactly. I saw a post cause

32:17

uh, I was looking through his Twitter 2019. He

32:21

tweeted that he's all excited to be moved down into

32:23

Jacksonville. That's obviously five years ago. So I have no

32:25

idea where he lives now, but point is he's playing

32:27

as the time of this turn or at the time

32:30

that this show comes out, he's about to

32:32

tee it up in the, uh, in

32:34

his first ever PGA tour event. So good luck to him. Hope

32:36

he plays fantastic. A question that I

32:38

saw you do a video

32:41

about Dan that actually is incredibly relevant

32:43

because of our boy

32:45

Dana coming on and talking all about Bryson

32:49

is would Bryson playing on the PGA

32:51

door all year long, potentially

32:53

have slowed down Scotty's run. He's

32:55

famously cleaned up. On the elevated

32:58

events. He's got a six

33:00

wins already, which I saw the comparison

33:02

since the tigers 2000 year. He's ahead

33:04

of tigers pace. Um, tiger, of

33:06

course, one three majors in that year, one of them by

33:08

15 shots, one of them by eight shots

33:10

at two, the most iconic courses in the world, which

33:12

Scotty has not done. He's, he's won one major and

33:15

one players, but in terms of his scoring

33:17

average, the amount of wins that he's got,

33:19

there's a couple others on there. Oh, miss

33:21

cuts, which is zero and like top

33:24

tens or something, which is like all of them.

33:27

He's actually ahead of tiger on that pace this

33:29

year. Would Bryson if he was playing

33:31

in the PGA tour all year, have

33:33

like slowed down Scotty's complete dominance of the year.

33:35

Did you notice something? I don't want to spoil

33:37

it, but did you notice something that Dana said?

33:39

I don't know if it's Dana or Dana, by

33:41

the way, but did you notice anything that he

33:44

said, like he's going to prioritize the bigger events,

33:46

which I thought was interesting. That's a little bit of

33:48

the Brooks approach and I, he hasn't, I don't

33:50

think he's won on live this year to be

33:52

frank too. Like that almost strikes me as like

33:54

they don't treat the live events like they're that

33:57

big of a deal. That's kind of what I

33:59

was. That's kind of what I was. I was getting like,

34:01

which I would say like, I wouldn't, can

34:03

you blame them? Like it, you know, like

34:05

there's not, I get that you're

34:07

playing for a lot of money and it's, and it's cool, but

34:09

he's out there hyping up the, I guess he was hyping up

34:12

the ground of the US Open too. But I agree with you.

34:14

He's almost, he almost came off and a

34:16

little teaser for the interview. Like he was

34:18

saying, we use the live events almost to experiment

34:20

so that we're ready for the big events. Yeah.

34:22

Yeah. I, and I think, you know, one of

34:24

the, one of the underrated things about tiger and

34:27

I think Scotty has this too is, you know,

34:29

there was all this talk about tiger and peaking

34:31

for the majors, but he brought that same intensity

34:33

to pretty much every single tournament that he played,

34:36

you know, he was, he won a lot.

34:38

I mean, he's won 15 majors. He's won, that means

34:40

he's won, you know, 67 non-majors. Right.

34:45

So, so it's not like he was on the first

34:47

cup of diet. And I think Scotty has

34:49

the same thing where it's not so much bringing the

34:51

intensity every time, but Scotty is just, you know, he's,

34:53

he's, he's so balanced with his

34:56

life. You know, and I, I

34:58

get the sense that Bryson doesn't have that same

35:00

balance, which is not a good thing or a

35:02

bad thing, right? Like Scotty's got a kid and

35:04

he's married Bryson is single and is not married

35:06

and Scotty is not super technical and

35:08

you know, it doesn't, I mean, he changed putters

35:10

to the spider X, which, and the QI 10

35:12

this year, which has made all the difference, but

35:14

you know, he's not, it's not trying out a

35:16

crank driver with bull. I just think he's got,

35:19

everything is sort of just like the

35:21

same thing week to week. And that's

35:23

why he's crushed it. Um,

35:26

week to week on the PGA tour, you know, he's won

35:28

five of the eight signature events. He obviously likes the way

35:30

they set up courses. I think he's going to be more

35:32

of those guys who like have to build up because he

35:35

puts so much energy into these big

35:37

events. And it gets to

35:39

an interesting question. You know, I think, I think

35:41

the British open is super important for, for, for

35:43

how we remember Scotty's year, right? Like if he

35:45

wins the British open, it's one

35:47

of the greatest years in golf history, two

35:49

majors, seven wins, all these signature events. If

35:52

he finishes like 20th and in this era

35:54

when, when, when, because the players are

35:56

split, you know, the majors seem

35:58

to matter more than ever. I

36:00

wonder how I wonder if those those wins will

36:02

sort of fade away if it will be

36:05

almost like a Jason Day 2015 Situation where

36:07

like when a lot of tournaments be one but

36:09

one major and you know, it just didn't quite

36:11

register look he clearly Will

36:15

vault into One of

36:17

the great seasons in golf history if he

36:20

wins the British Open but even

36:22

if he doesn't the fact that he

36:24

got a major is enormous

36:27

because If he had

36:29

15 wins Even

36:31

if it's a players and no

36:34

major championships, then you could kind of make

36:36

that argument but if he doesn't

36:38

win another event all year, it's

36:40

gonna go down as as a Phenomenal

36:43

top 10 15. I don't know

36:45

all the seasons but season in

36:49

Golf history, especially because you have to

36:51

consider and the parodies not as much

36:54

now on a week-to-week basis because the

36:56

tours are split how much

36:58

people talk about all the all the nutrition

37:00

all the fitness all The

37:02

equipment has led to so much parody

37:04

that it's nearly impossible for someone to

37:06

dominate yet Here is a guy who

37:08

is dominating and he's not just dominating

37:10

the tour setups He did

37:13

win at the Masters He won the

37:15

players championship which really is like kind

37:17

of its own thing and the other

37:19

events that he's won are massive fucking

37:21

Events like winning at Mirfield and

37:23

Jack's tournament is huge And

37:27

you know a couple of these elevated events

37:29

are you know, it like Bay Hill is

37:31

you know That's he's got Arnold Palmer. He's

37:33

got Jack Nichols his events like these are

37:36

These are big big-time events that were on Tigers

37:38

schedule that tiger played I didn't play that often

37:40

when he was even in his heyday played like

37:42

what 12 15 times a year and

37:45

so like when he did show up it was like

37:47

he was treating everything like a major championship and

37:49

Scotty has won a bunch of those huge events.

37:52

So I think it's almost impossible to fathom He's

37:54

not gonna win another time this year, but even

37:56

if he doesn't win the British you got to

37:58

think he'll win one or two other

38:00

events that's gonna put him at seven or eight wins

38:03

a Masters a players championship

38:05

Jax tournament Arnie's tournament the

38:07

record in terms of money earned like he's

38:10

pretty much locked up one

38:12

of the top career or years in history so

38:14

there's there's two player of the year awards I

38:16

think I vote for one of them I

38:19

can't remember I I don't I

38:22

don't I don't pay for the Golf Writers Association

38:24

of America I had a little I had a

38:26

little bit of a spat with the guy runs

38:28

it you have a falling out yes what

38:30

happened well I wrote this I wrote the you

38:32

know the best the best article I've ever written

38:35

in my life about Morgan Hoffman and when

38:37

I was at Golf Digest the there

38:40

was like an office manager who would handle all

38:42

of the submissions for the writing contest and so

38:44

like we didn't have to do it it was

38:46

like okay they're gonna submit then the editors would

38:48

decide like we're gonna submit Dan in this category

38:50

that code category we're not gonna submit him in

38:52

this category okay when I went to Barstool that

38:55

obviously wasn't happening anymore we don't have what

38:58

do you say we don't have one of

39:00

those no we don't we don't have a

39:02

Golf Writers Association of America committee like nate

39:04

dogs not submitting those for you no okay

39:06

and so I missed it by like a day I missed

39:08

the deadline and then I was like oh my god I

39:10

wrote this guy this whole email being like hey I just

39:12

you know I'm at Barstool now I didn't really know what

39:14

was going on blah blah blah and

39:16

the guy responds to me and goes I'm sorry it's

39:18

not gonna happen blah blah blah and he signs the

39:20

email contest czar

39:23

and I was like Jesus okay fuck

39:26

this guy I was like I'm not this I

39:28

don't anyway so there's two there's two awards there's

39:30

the PJ tour player of the year award which

39:32

is voted on by the players by the peers

39:34

we know who's gonna win that one mm-hmm then

39:37

there's the the GWAA or whatever it is the PJ from

39:39

here I don't know what it's called but there's a player

39:41

of the year or that is not tied to the PGA

39:43

tour and it's just golf

39:45

player of the year so theoretically you know this was

39:47

like back in the 90s if you know

39:49

Nick Faldo did a million things in Europe he

39:51

could win the award without playing on the PGA tour let's

39:54

say Bryson wins the open mm-hmm

39:56

and Scotty finishes third

40:00

Who wins who wins that award? Because Bryson

40:02

Bryson will have to will have two majors and

40:05

have beaten Eaton Scotty in three to four. I

40:07

also thought it was super interesting how Dana talked

40:09

about let's not crown. I'm not letting Bryson crown

40:11

Scott Scheffler, but that was very interesting. Also,

40:14

it was extremely interesting, but it was

40:16

also expected to it. Like

40:18

you have to say that, you know, you

40:20

cannot and I'm almost surprised when I

40:22

watch some of these interviews with some of the other

40:24

guys when

40:27

they do kind of like concede that Scotty.

40:29

That Scotty is just playing

40:31

way better because it's almost like he is.

40:34

I call the stats and all the results. He

40:37

clearly is, but Bryson

40:39

does have a little bit of an argument because he's like,

40:41

yeah, we've only played together three times. I've beaten the guy

40:43

two out of three times. So

40:46

who would you vote for? It depends.

40:48

Like if Scotty then goes on and wins

40:50

like everything going home. I don't

40:53

know how you don't pick them. I really don't.

40:55

But you would be able to have a great argument for Bryson. You'd

40:57

be able to say like, dude, these guys only got to

40:59

play against each other four times. But then

41:03

I guess the counter argument to that would be

41:05

like, well, Bryson, like you're not you're

41:07

not the player of the year. You were the player

41:09

of the majors, but like you

41:11

also play on a tour throughout the entire year and you

41:13

weren't dominant there. You had no wins there. Very few wins

41:16

there, depending on how he does the rest of the year.

41:18

So I still think Scotty

41:20

having won one of the majors, having

41:23

won the players championship, the tour truly is like

41:25

deeper. And

41:28

tougher and more historic and more prestige.

41:30

I would still give it to Scotty.

41:32

Yeah, it's it's it's I'm

41:34

rooting for the two of them because I think it's

41:36

I think it would be really, really cool if

41:39

the year ended that way. You know,

41:41

because we've in the beginning, it looked like was it like

41:43

going to be Wyndham Clark who who challenged Scotty and is

41:45

sort of that guy. You know, he was there at at

41:48

Bay Hill and and the players. And

41:50

then he missed like every cut in every important tournament the rest

41:52

of the year. He's fallen out and you

41:55

know, Sanders has been up there pretty much every year,

41:57

but Sanders, not not the personality that Bryson is like.

42:00

Like, you know, he finished his top

42:02

20 in every single tournament, but half of them, you don't

42:04

really even notice because he's just kind of a quiet kid,

42:06

which is fine. That's his personality. I think

42:08

it would be really special if the two of them found a

42:10

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43:34

we think Rory's going to emerge

43:36

before Scotland

43:39

at all? In

43:41

an interview, right? Once

43:43

a year, he sits down with the guardian of

43:46

Scotland for something and does a long, long

43:50

interview. Do you think he's going to emerge

43:52

with one of those before we get to

43:54

the Genesis? I think

43:56

he is in a remote, probably

43:58

a very nice remote. place. I

44:01

think he's in some castle somewhere.

44:03

I think the year that that

44:05

guy has had, I'm looking back

44:07

on it, it's fucking bananas how

44:09

that US Open played out. Like

44:12

Rory McElroy, this Titanic, but also kind of

44:14

a tragic figure the last couple of years

44:16

with how it went with Liv and then

44:18

you got the divorce thing. And then a

44:21

guy blows a major in

44:23

the most flagrant fashion, at least

44:25

since Mito Pereira, and it's Rory.

44:29

It's just I can't

44:31

believe that happened. Every person I talked

44:33

to about it says to

44:35

like, I'm heartbroken for Rory. I mean, it

44:37

just, I don't know how you're

44:40

not that was, do you think he's watched the

44:43

putts at all? Like, do you think he's even looked

44:45

at footage of the putts? I can't

44:47

imagine that he has. Dude, I was, I was

44:49

rewatching the putt, the last one

44:51

recently, and he tries with his body English.

44:54

Do you know what I'm talking about? He

44:56

tries to like, he starts like standing up.

44:59

Oh man, I'm getting like, I'm getting shivers just thinking

45:01

about it. I still don't think he hit a bad

45:03

putt. I think it just broke more than he thought.

45:05

I really do. Ron was pissed at Smiley Kaufman for

45:08

making it sound like, did you see that? Like it

45:10

was a left center putt. Look, that's part of the

45:12

deal. Like that's when you're, you know, like we've

45:14

done the live broadcasting, you're supposed to like say

45:17

what you can and he's like trying to give

45:19

the viewer what to expect here. And

45:21

it clearly wasn't. And then it was Max Homa, right?

45:23

Who came on like, I think he

45:25

said something within a few days and was like, I

45:27

actually practiced that exact putt in a practice round. And

45:29

it's a weird one because if you start it even

45:32

more left of the hole than Rory did, it doesn't

45:34

really break until later. And if you've started

45:36

where Rory did, it can snap off. And

45:38

that's kind of what Rory's did. Yeah,

45:42

man. I, it

45:44

is hard to really, he's gonna like, when you, when

45:46

you have trouble finishing off like that, like a

45:49

golf tournament has to feel so long and so hard

45:51

to win because it takes so much work to

45:53

get to where he was on Sunday at

45:56

Pinehurst. And then if he gets in

45:58

that position again, you know, he's, it's kind of across his mind. It's

46:00

going to cross his mind. And it's, you

46:03

know, I felt this really hard with like

46:05

the Oilers and Connor McDavid, where it was

46:07

like, I'm watching and

46:10

you can feel right after the buzzer,

46:13

this horrific reality settle

46:15

in of like, it's

46:18

going to be at least a year until

46:20

we have this chance again. And that's if

46:22

everything goes right. Like they want a game

46:24

seven. They

46:27

were red hot at the right time. Skinner,

46:29

their goalie got hot at the right time.

46:31

They're able to barely get through a couple

46:33

of really, really, really good teams. They had

46:35

the game six against Dallas where they got

46:37

totally outplayed, but McDavid came through and was

46:39

the difference. And like all of those

46:41

things would have to go right for them to even

46:43

have that chance again. And that would be

46:45

in a year. And so I was

46:47

sitting there watching that with Rory and it's

46:49

like, it almost, it brought me back to

46:51

the, um, it brought

46:54

me back to the open at St.

46:56

Andrews when he didn't get the

46:58

job done there. Because if you remember that, that's

47:00

obviously the last major of the year and the

47:03

second that that, that his chip didn't

47:05

go in on the 72nd hole to

47:07

tie, it was like, dude,

47:09

at best case, we've got nine months

47:11

until he can try this again at

47:14

the masters. And you're like, that's horrible.

47:17

What are you going to do now?

47:21

And at least he's got this opportunity. He's

47:23

got a chance at the open championship, but

47:26

like, God, you're so right. Watch it.

47:29

And it's like, dude, you don't

47:31

get, you have to have your game

47:33

has to be on your preparation has

47:35

to go great. You have to be

47:37

in the proper wave of like Thursday,

47:39

Friday, then you gotta like have

47:41

a couple of bounces. You gotta have a couple of putts

47:43

lip in, which like, if you remember Sunday,

47:45

like he made several bombs leading

47:48

up to those missed short putts

47:50

to get him even like one

47:52

stroke ahead. All of that had to

47:54

happen. And it's like, here we go. And

47:56

then of all the things, it's so hard to hit the

47:58

golf ball. yards dead straight but

48:01

he could do that and it's like so

48:03

hard to like get this ball

48:05

even his second shot on the 72nd

48:07

hole it was like he missed hit it he got

48:09

screwed it was in a bush and it missed the

48:11

bunker that Bryson was in and skips up to like

48:13

a pretty good spot you're like oh everything has to

48:15

go right let's go and the two

48:18

things that didn't go right are like those short pots

48:20

it's like God it is

48:22

just I know everybody's talked about it

48:24

for weeks but like remember guest I

48:26

played in last week at st. Louis it was like

48:29

it was it was five days

48:31

later and everyone was still talking about it

48:33

over and over again and everyone I played

48:35

in one as well last week and everyone

48:37

anytime there was like a long bunker shot

48:39

everyone's like all right let's see your Bryson

48:41

that's his shot now uh-huh I

48:44

know I know man that US Open is gonna

48:46

live for a long long long time what a

48:48

special special day that was and

48:50

it's heartbreaking it really is I love Bryson we

48:52

have his coach on I think Bryson is like

48:54

so good for the game and

48:57

that's the beauty of like golf is that there's only

48:59

one person that walks out

49:01

of there happy out of you

49:03

know 156 in those big fields it's

49:06

like it's grueling it's heartbreaking

49:08

except for maybe Matthew Pavone he's he's a

49:10

happy he loved it that guy is great

49:13

he also I think he finished he

49:15

finished I want to say like 20th last week or something

49:18

16th at travelers and he tweeted

49:20

like what an incredible week like I love

49:22

this so much I

49:24

hope he never I hope he never gets

49:26

to that point where it's like win or nothing

49:28

because he's the happiest most pleasant French person I've

49:30

ever come across you feel bad like we had

49:32

him on the show last week you feel bad

49:34

asking him about Bryson and Rory and then you

49:36

realize like he was so kitty to talk about

49:38

it he was like oh dude like

49:41

when we could see Rory right there he's he's like

49:43

Bryce it came over to me after my tee shot

49:45

at 17 he's like he was talking about it like

49:47

he was a kid who was holding the fucking scoring

49:49

side being like I got to talk to these guys

49:51

while the tournament was going on so no dude you

49:53

finished fifth in the tournament like he was yeah he's

49:56

great I like that guy I like

49:58

that guy a lot we had to close

50:00

this the pin there. So Bushman,

50:02

I believe is bringing it today. We're in a

50:04

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50:06

not on the show. And Frankie's not

50:08

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Um, also have an update for you

51:00

as well. So last week it was

51:02

the Frankie and Alex show here. We

51:04

both took a few points. So the

51:07

first one, yes. First

51:09

one was, uh, combine goals for oilers

51:11

and Panthers, uh, game six, it

51:14

was six, which was my guess. So spot

51:16

on two points there. Finishing position

51:19

for Ludwig at travelers. He was T 27

51:21

and we all were top

51:24

10. So Frankie at ninth took that

51:27

and then combined points for the dozen

51:30

championship finals at 23

51:33

and Frankie took that with 24. And

51:36

then the final one was high

51:38

temperature in Brando, Indonesia on Saturday,

51:40

one of Trent's random places,

51:43

84 degrees. So Riggs and I split that

51:45

he had 81 I had 87. How about

51:48

having like a gazillion people that

51:50

live there? Amazing amount. Was that

51:52

the one with the trains that show people shove people on

51:54

the trains there? That might be like

51:56

Korea that they do that. It sounds right. Yeah,

52:00

it's a huge place. Okay,

52:02

so this week, first

52:04

one will be rocket mortgage

52:06

this week, finishing position for

52:09

Tom Kim. Nine weeks

52:11

in a row this guy's playing. This is a

52:13

ninth week in a row. No way. Rigs,

52:16

sixth. Dan, win

52:18

first. Alex, sixth. What

52:21

the fuck? Every

52:24

fucking time. Will you squash me every time? You

52:26

guys are like girls with their

52:28

menstrual cycles. It's

52:31

all the same thing. It's definitely we're

52:33

exactly like that. That's exactly

52:35

what we fucking squash me like that. We're

52:38

going to. Funny you brought up Taylor

52:40

because that is my second one. So

52:42

she does surprise songs for each show. Two

52:45

different songs that have not been played or

52:47

sometimes she repeats them but are

52:49

not in the original set list. So

52:52

I'm going to say this weekend, she's in Dublin

52:54

night to Spotify listens

52:56

for the first surprise song

52:58

played. So they put the

53:00

live version on Spotify? No,

53:03

no, I'm just saying of that song on Spotify. So

53:05

if she plays whatever song she

53:07

plays, the Spotify listens. Okay, so which

53:09

is going to be a complete crapshoot.

53:12

I have numbers though. So her first, the first

53:14

one she plays the first surprise song first surprise

53:16

song and she's been doing mashups. So if it's

53:18

a mashup, it's the first song in the mashup.

53:20

You have some kind of context. Yeah,

53:23

I usually like lesser known songs because she plays the big

53:25

ones at the tour, right? She

53:27

didn't play every big one. There's some big

53:29

ones that are there by but just

53:32

like her top five trending right now,

53:34

Fortnite has 438 mil, Cruel Summer 2.2

53:37

bill and

53:41

her top trending ones are all off the new album. So

53:44

they're all around 250 200 million drunk

53:47

in the back of the car. She's

53:50

got so many bangers, dude. That's

53:52

my favorite one. I think push knows. All

53:54

right. I think I got a guess. I got a guess. I

53:57

got one. All right. Dan

53:59

report. 373 mil, Riggs 325, Alex 469. Okay.

54:07

Okay. Okay. Austria and

54:09

Grand Prix this weekend, we're

54:12

gonna do the finishing position

54:14

for Lando Norris. This year

54:16

he's gone sixth, eighth, third,

54:18

fifth, second, first, second,

54:20

fourth, second, second. He's driving well.

54:22

Max is like wins everyone, right?

54:24

Max, yeah, yeah, he can't do

54:26

that. He would just be, he

54:29

wins everyone. What happened to,

54:31

is Lewis Hamilton like not a factor anymore? Not

54:34

as much, Mercedes just isn't a factor. He's gonna blow it

54:36

with the car. He's gonna blow it with the car, dude.

54:39

Yeah, exactly. He hates the car, he's hated the car

54:41

for years, kind of a nightmare. All

54:43

right, Riggs fourth, Dan third, Alex

54:46

third. And

54:48

then the last one, 15 MLB

54:50

games on Saturday. We're gonna

54:52

do total home runs in

54:54

all the games. So last Saturday, they were also

54:56

15, they were 45.

55:00

All right, Dan 42, Alex 46, Riggs 39. Beautiful,

55:05

okay, that's closest to Penn. Last thing I

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very few are like

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You're significantly more likely to have all

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56:19

news for golfers, which made me laugh. But

56:23

I was looking then at that as I've

56:25

been looking through a lot of nutritional

56:28

stuff lately and dietary stuff,

56:30

trying to improve my diet. And it's

56:32

very funny because when you Google basically

56:34

any type of food ever, the

56:37

result, because now Google gives you

56:39

the AI result is the top

56:41

one. And it's essentially

56:44

like every food in history,

56:46

they basically, with

56:48

the exception of ultra processed foods, they

56:51

basically describe it as like, oh

56:53

yeah, this food has plenty of good

56:55

nutrients, but definitely

56:57

some bad stuff. So if

57:00

you have and consume it in moderation,

57:02

it's great. And it says that about

57:04

every food basically in history.

57:07

And that essentially is exactly what I took

57:09

away from this study about the sun where

57:11

it was like, oh yeah, if you get like

57:13

moderate levels of exposure to the sun, you get

57:15

vitamin D, which is incredibly important. Like it's going

57:18

to be good for your mental health, for

57:20

your physical health, for all of that. And

57:22

that if you get overexposure, it could be completely

57:24

devastating. Yeah, it was kind of, I couldn't believe

57:26

that he messaged it that way. Because he would

57:29

be like, oh yeah, we're good now. Like I'm

57:31

just going to go fry in the sun. Like

57:34

you get every golfer, I mean, not every golfer, but

57:36

a lot of the golf pro golfers, I mean, even

57:38

Justin Thomas had an issue on his leg. Like that's

57:40

not because he stayed out of the sun. Nope.

57:43

That ain't it. That is not it. It's exactly

57:45

right. It's like, no, you need. So yeah, I

57:47

laughed at that. I was like, you know, you

57:49

still need to protect yourself. You still protect your

57:51

skin from getting like, violently

57:54

burned because it literally burns your cells

57:56

and your skin's ability. And that leads

57:58

to cancerous stuff. So. I

58:00

laughed at that, but I had to comment on that because I'd be getting

58:02

tagged on that a bunch. Other than

58:04

that, I got nothing. We'll

58:07

be back on next Tuesday. We've got

58:09

the interview with Dana Dolquist, who again,

58:12

Bryson DeChambeau's coach. We're going to

58:14

do a lot of cool golf nerdy stuff with Bryson. I

58:18

think people are going to enjoy it with how

58:20

hot in the streets he is right now. So

58:22

stay tuned, enjoy the interview. We'll be back next

58:24

week on Tuesday. Hit it hard. All

58:32

right, ladies and gentlemen, we're joined. We kind of

58:34

teased this. We got Dana Dolquist, Bryson DeChambeau's swing

58:37

coach. I've been going through a bunch of your

58:39

stuff. You're outside of

58:41

the driving range right now, which is absolutely incredible.

58:44

How in demand are you right now over

58:46

the last couple of weeks, couple of years?

58:49

Is everybody chomping a bit for your time?

58:51

I mean, it's pretty constant. I live in

58:53

a very golf-centric community.

58:55

So I mean, obviously

58:57

we have really good teachers around here.

58:59

I mean, Jamie Mulligan, Brett Lederer are

59:02

pretty well known. They're up

59:04

the street and I'm just a typical

59:06

ranger out. So I'm at the public

59:08

course over here at El Dorado. And

59:12

yeah, I mean, we just do lessons

59:14

all day long. And it's

59:17

pretty cool because I

59:20

still work with everybody. And Long

59:24

Beach is kind of like this little golf-centric

59:26

hub, which is pretty sweet.

59:28

I used to caddy in the Long Beach Open at

59:30

El Dorado. It was El Dorado and Skylinks.

59:34

Oh, sweet. But I caddied in

59:36

it a few times. How did Bryson first

59:39

reach out to you? And

59:41

did you have a relationship with him before

59:43

that? Or was it like totally out of

59:45

the blue? Because he's, you know, I know

59:47

he's, we worked with Chris Como for a

59:49

while. Mike Shai was in the mix. Yeah.

59:51

Yeah. So, and Mike is still very much

59:53

in the mix. Mike is also a father

59:55

figure. You know, we all come from pretty

59:57

similar backgrounds, like not to

1:00:00

get into the. golf machine

1:00:02

stuff, but I have a background on

1:00:04

that too. So it was kind of

1:00:07

an easy thing to parlay

1:00:09

into, but as far

1:00:11

as how we met, I worked with Charles Howell

1:00:14

for a long time. And

1:00:16

Charles is one of Bryson's teammates,

1:00:19

one of the crushers. Bryson

1:00:22

was kind of in a position where he

1:00:24

wanted a set of eyes and go through

1:00:26

some concepts of what he was thinking about

1:00:28

his golf swing. And I

1:00:31

obviously have talked to Bryson prior to

1:00:33

that several times. And he

1:00:35

always came up to me with some interesting questions

1:00:37

that were related to either

1:00:39

the golf club or the

1:00:42

alignments of the golf swing or ground force

1:00:44

reactions or any of that kind of lingo.

1:00:47

And so when it came to

1:00:49

the point of looking at

1:00:51

his golf swing, we did. That was actually two

1:00:54

weeks prior to the PGA last year. And

1:00:56

I got off and running and

1:00:59

played really well. I think he finished

1:01:02

like four. And then

1:01:05

obviously two windlings, some

1:01:07

equipment changers, and now

1:01:10

here we are. So we're

1:01:12

always trying to look outside the box

1:01:14

a little bit. And at least

1:01:17

in my category, he has people that

1:01:19

specifically do his golf clubs and golf

1:01:22

ball and all that kind of stuff.

1:01:25

So yeah, it's been about a year, a little over

1:01:27

a year now. Talk to me a little bit about

1:01:30

your background with, I guess

1:01:32

I would call it more of the mechanical,

1:01:35

biomechanical, technical

1:01:37

side of golf. Because we've

1:01:40

done stuff with Butch Harmon, for example, and everybody's using

1:01:43

technology now, but I feel like he's a little bit

1:01:45

more old school feel

1:01:47

and things are starting

1:01:49

to blend more now. But there's been a

1:01:52

traditional, whatever you want to call it, more

1:01:54

of a feel type teaching approach. And

1:01:56

then there's been more of a technical, I'm reading

1:01:58

a lot of this stuff about the... foresight about

1:02:00

you guys videoing every single swing on the

1:02:03

range and comparing what his body's doing with

1:02:05

3d Talk

1:02:07

a little bit about your kind of your background

1:02:09

and how you take that scientific approach to the

1:02:11

golf swing I'll actually answer it backwards. I think

1:02:13

it's kind of a good way of doing it

1:02:15

though in the end of the day Everybody

1:02:18

that plays in a major championship and they're

1:02:20

up 25 on the leaderboard or a bunch

1:02:22

of outliers So they're they're very very good

1:02:25

in golf They

1:02:27

know how to play the game they have

1:02:29

certain expectations So a coach's job is

1:02:31

not to disrupt that so that's number

1:02:33

one and that need to be honest

1:02:35

guys like And I'm speaking

1:02:37

more like the younger teachers coming out. It's

1:02:40

my responsibility to to guide

1:02:42

them in the future More

1:02:44

so than you know What I

1:02:47

need to do, but you know,

1:02:49

I think my younger years as a

1:02:51

coach it was looking

1:02:53

for answers in the technical side and when

1:02:56

you Answer these questions on

1:02:58

the technical side. Sometimes it takes some of

1:03:00

the Artistry out of the player or

1:03:02

the confidence out of the player So

1:03:05

if we look at specifically the US Open and this

1:03:07

is where things are going to be going The

1:03:09

big question that was kind of in my mind and

1:03:12

I brought this to foresight and

1:03:14

sports box attention a little bit I said hey

1:03:16

look, you know You have really good technology that

1:03:18

can integrate and that can simplify the message that

1:03:20

I need to deliver So that

1:03:22

Bryson and my other players can

1:03:25

go out and actually play golf

1:03:27

instead of trying to make positions happen

1:03:30

in a golf swing or Chase

1:03:32

certain parameters. It's like, okay, what are the

1:03:34

one or two things that I need to

1:03:36

do and that's really kind of how that

1:03:40

Start so a week prior to the US Open

1:03:43

Sports box went out and got all of his

1:03:45

numbers and then we had

1:03:47

a discussion and we're talking every

1:03:49

shot So every shot was calculated Spin

1:03:52

axis of the ball body positions and then we

1:03:54

kind of pick the ones that are the red

1:03:56

flags Which were only like two or three man

1:04:00

we did at the week of the US Open.

1:04:03

To him we saw when he hit 86%

1:04:05

of his fairway and drove it great. We

1:04:08

saw the correlation to the next day and

1:04:11

we're off to the races. So now

1:04:13

that being said, if we go back

1:04:16

in time, originally I was kind of

1:04:18

what you would say like a macro-greatity

1:04:20

cycle, though kind of in the Morad

1:04:22

group or space, which

1:04:25

was based off of, we

1:04:28

could call it geometry. And I mean, you're

1:04:30

going to get golf nerds on here, so

1:04:32

let me cover my bases real quick. So

1:04:34

that was more of the kinetics of the

1:04:36

golf plane. So as we

1:04:38

fast forward, that's

1:04:40

where we started looking probably like

1:04:43

six to eight years ago into the

1:04:45

biomechanics space, which we're

1:04:47

talking to golf science people. And

1:04:49

the golf science people were looking at

1:04:52

certain places of golf science, whether it's

1:04:54

ground force reaction or

1:04:56

like Phil Cheatham who's looking

1:04:58

at 3D and then how

1:05:00

to correlate those things. And how

1:05:03

does that affect our players? And then

1:05:05

how much of this affect like the

1:05:07

average golfer? I deal

1:05:10

mostly with the average golfer. So there

1:05:12

is some crossover on some things that are useful

1:05:14

and some things that aren't. And

1:05:17

you know, golfers are kind of interesting. It's

1:05:19

a very easy game to get

1:05:21

technical at. And at the end

1:05:23

of the day, I think the technology is making

1:05:25

it easier, especially in the next probably two to

1:05:28

three years, you're going to see a lot

1:05:30

more of like, instead of me pulling

1:05:33

some concept off the wall and trying

1:05:35

it, it's going to be like,

1:05:37

no, bro, like you got to do this. This

1:05:39

is what you have to do. And then they can practice there

1:05:41

and not just hit sub and irons on the range all day.

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the equipment, it's been a big

1:07:45

topic of conversation since the masters.

1:07:48

Can you explain it to us? Because

1:07:51

when he explains it, I get it, it's

1:07:54

shaped more like the irons have a

1:07:56

bulge, sort of more of a

1:07:59

gear effect. that you'd expect to see

1:08:01

with a driver or fairy woods.

1:08:04

Walk us through just how different it is and do you

1:08:06

think it is something that will spread?

1:08:08

OK, so first and foremost, Breitzen has a

1:08:10

lot of clubbed speed. So

1:08:14

being as such is ball speed is really, really high.

1:08:17

And so in the marketplace, all

1:08:19

that demographic is very small. So as

1:08:22

far as like testing, you know, equipment

1:08:24

and things like that, it's

1:08:26

a niche thing. Let's just be fair, like

1:08:28

there's not a lot of guys that they

1:08:30

slay in hitting a ball at 190 ball

1:08:32

speed plus. And when they

1:08:34

do do that, there's things start to change.

1:08:36

And one of those things curvature. So

1:08:40

on a centered hit with, you know,

1:08:42

let's hope that you can do every single time.

1:08:45

But the reality is it's not happening. And for

1:08:47

your weekend warriors and guys like to have a

1:08:49

good time, they're probably not doing

1:08:51

that. So if you look at

1:08:53

it from the standpoint of clubbed speed and we

1:08:55

go from 190 all the way down to, let's

1:08:57

say, 150 ball

1:09:00

speed, excuse me, in that trend,

1:09:04

that means that you're going

1:09:06

to be hitting it on the toe and the heel and you

1:09:08

need to have the right bulging roll

1:09:11

to bring the ball back. So at a

1:09:13

high speed when Breitzen was a normal driver

1:09:15

off the toe, the curvature was too much. And

1:09:19

when he started experimenting with the bulging

1:09:21

roll specifically on the driver originally, when

1:09:25

he would increase it or decrease it, he could

1:09:27

see the fluctuation and how that curvature was. And

1:09:30

you know, Bryson actually practices hitting it on

1:09:32

different parts of the face because

1:09:34

that allows him to control

1:09:37

the ball better. You know, it's not just hit the

1:09:39

side or hit the side or he wants to try

1:09:41

it off the toe, try it off the heel. I

1:09:43

think what's interesting is the industry, you know,

1:09:46

needs to have not to

1:09:48

get on my high horse here, but it needs to have

1:09:50

a little bit out of the box thinking to

1:09:53

change the industry. And

1:09:55

I mean, you couldn't ask for a better guy

1:09:57

to do that because he's going to experiment. try

1:09:59

things and put it in the high level competition.

1:10:02

And we just saw him

1:10:05

win a major championship with the new

1:10:07

technology. So. What would be

1:10:09

the equipment companies, what would be their rebuttal?

1:10:11

Because I would think that they

1:10:13

would say, what do you mean? We've

1:10:16

been testing with high speeds. How

1:10:18

would they not, with all the tour players they have, how

1:10:20

would they not test it at these speeds?

1:10:22

Yeah, I think what's interesting is when you do

1:10:24

robot testing, it's probably, and I don't know the

1:10:26

exact number, but it's around 170 ball

1:10:29

speeds. You're not seeing

1:10:31

it at 200. And

1:10:34

so what happens is they kind of have

1:10:37

a formula that they use and then they

1:10:39

use technology around that, such as maybe like

1:10:41

Twistface, which is work. So

1:10:45

that technology does work, but

1:10:47

it's kind of like the next phase

1:10:49

of Twistface. So the next phase of

1:10:51

Twistface is gonna be the bulge on

1:10:53

the face. And then we're gonna

1:10:56

have to get, the industry's gonna have to go,

1:10:58

okay, well, if those high speed players, what

1:11:01

is the optimal bulge and roll? And also on

1:11:03

the flip side, the load speed. So if you

1:11:05

see players that swing really slow,

1:11:10

under 150, maybe it's 145, what

1:11:13

is that average gonna be and what's the bulge gonna

1:11:15

have to be for you to get optimal launch and

1:11:18

fin? So the big thing is also the

1:11:20

spin from the top to the bottom too. So the top

1:11:22

of face to the bottom at 190, you

1:11:25

can just imagine, this is why Bryson uses

1:11:27

like stronger lofted clubs. He looks at it

1:11:29

just from the spin rate capability.

1:11:32

Like his pitching wedge is gonna spin at pitching

1:11:34

wedge spin, even if the loft is down. So

1:11:38

it's the same thing kind of, instead

1:11:40

of me hitting my Mizuno's or my

1:11:43

King's or whatever, they just

1:11:45

be stronger lofted. Interesting.

1:11:47

So how much would you say then, a

1:11:50

question I have about Bryson is, how

1:11:54

much of his

1:11:56

success is just, he's

1:11:59

also a natural player. naturally born incredibly

1:12:01

gifted and talented golfer

1:12:04

because I'm out there watching him and he's doing

1:12:06

all the scientific stuff and When

1:12:09

you're when you're watching it and you know,

1:12:11

you're you're kind of thinking like oh, of

1:12:13

course if he's done so much study knows exactly

1:12:15

that if he's got this Form and

1:12:17

these fundamentals down and he swings

1:12:19

this way with this equipment that like the results gonna pretty

1:12:21

much be in this Kind of

1:12:23

dispersion cone where I'm out there

1:12:25

watching him and do this stuff on the range and

1:12:28

he's doing great job He's talking all about you

1:12:30

know, if when he's trying to breathe out He's trying

1:12:32

to strike the ball as he like breathes out all

1:12:34

this stuff But I'm also like he's also just

1:12:36

flushing the ball every single time and he understands how

1:12:38

to get his way around a golf course You

1:12:41

know, he's one at every level hunting

1:12:43

on awesome. He's a phenomenal putter,

1:12:45

which is not again I know he works on

1:12:47

how far to bring the putter back But also

1:12:50

like just stepping up and making a four-footer to

1:12:52

win the US Open as we saw is like

1:12:54

not just that easy So, you know how much

1:12:56

of it is also just like man, this guy's

1:12:58

a really naturally gifted incredible athlete golfer

1:13:01

Yeah, well you develop the athlete young.

1:13:03

I mean look that's kind of a

1:13:05

thing that We

1:13:07

don't really get to see so all of

1:13:10

these guys that are on tour have practiced

1:13:13

Appropriately, hey, they practice golf. So they

1:13:15

practice hitting balls around trees and you

1:13:17

know Hitting at targets and

1:13:19

it's not just the swing mechanics. I mean,

1:13:21

I think You know to

1:13:23

the parents out there maybe watching or wanting to listen

1:13:25

if you want to develop golf or you develop golf.

1:13:28

So And a

1:13:30

lot of the things that you know, the mistakes maybe I

1:13:32

made along the way trying to make a swing look a

1:13:34

certain way Still didn't produce

1:13:36

an outcome. So that's kind of

1:13:38

just a complimentary thing but for

1:13:40

Bryson, we didn't see the

1:13:44

3000 balls they hit and a few days

1:13:46

when he was, you know, 15 years old

1:13:48

trying to perfect Making perfect

1:13:50

contact, you know, let's just look at that

1:13:52

line item for a minute and And

1:13:55

then that becomes part of his self and

1:13:58

then him being able to start the ball on the line

1:14:00

every single time and then him being able to curve it

1:14:02

a certain way every time and then

1:14:04

him being able to carry it a certain distance every time. So

1:14:06

like all these guys that are on

1:14:09

tour have some level of that and the

1:14:11

piece that helps him now

1:14:14

is knowing that he can simplify

1:14:16

that down and show

1:14:18

up to a golf tournament, feel like he's the

1:14:20

best player there, which he does, and

1:14:23

then be able to execute his actionable plan.

1:14:25

I think the other side of this, and

1:14:28

I tell this to every one of my

1:14:30

players, is that don't allow other players to

1:14:32

have the throne. I know you

1:14:34

guys interview a lot of players and coaches and

1:14:38

it's interesting because right now everybody's elected

1:14:40

Scotty Scheffler and I like Scotty. I

1:14:42

mean, he's a great human being and

1:14:44

Randy and they're great guys. They

1:14:47

have a nice team, but I wouldn't

1:14:49

allow any of my students to elect

1:14:51

Scotty to be like he's the guy.

1:14:53

It's just not really allowed. What

1:14:56

do you mean by that? Well, so

1:14:58

we in golf,

1:15:00

we elected Tiger Woods

1:15:03

and he verbally would say it to everybody, like

1:15:06

the famous Curtis Strange interview where you

1:15:08

think you can win and you learn. Yeah,

1:15:11

you'll learn. But

1:15:13

that was built into him at a

1:15:16

young age and what's interesting is that

1:15:18

Tiger rose to that occasion

1:15:20

and was able to drop the hammer

1:15:22

on everybody. Right

1:15:24

now, that's the same with Scotty Scheffler. So

1:15:27

Scotty's team and people around him built that

1:15:29

in and then when he was able to

1:15:31

win, it perpetuated on himself. And

1:15:34

so now it's, he's here

1:15:36

and then people

1:15:38

around him are elevating him and including the

1:15:41

media does it, the media elects it and

1:15:44

it perpetuates on itself. So at least

1:15:46

with my students and even college player,

1:15:48

the responsibility is like, hey, I'm

1:15:50

the best person at this golf course. I'm

1:15:52

the best person in my college.

1:15:55

I'm the best person in this town and

1:15:57

so on and so forth. And

1:15:59

if you're a student, you can do that. If

1:16:01

you speak it into existence, if your mindset is

1:16:03

there, of course, the skill set follows. And

1:16:06

that's a really important factor. And

1:16:08

in Bryce's case, he has that.

1:16:11

He feels like when he shows up for golf course, he's

1:16:13

the guy to beat. And

1:16:16

obviously, his track record, the last several

1:16:18

decades, has shown that. And

1:16:23

that's an important thing. But we

1:16:26

want to see... The other part of it

1:16:28

is like, I had

1:16:30

one of the... Actually, the CEO of

1:16:32

Sportsbox, at the time,

1:16:52

I didn't have any stress on that. And let

1:16:54

alone when he hit it, then he made the

1:16:57

putt. I expected him to do that. It is

1:16:59

a very interesting mindset

1:17:01

difference. Just

1:17:04

to relate it to myself, we basically

1:17:06

are personification on the internet of the

1:17:09

weekend warrior. And sure, we get to reach a

1:17:11

point, we get to play golf a lot on

1:17:13

camera for a living, but we still are at

1:17:15

our core. Weekend warriors picked up the game, at

1:17:18

least myself, a little bit later in life, never

1:17:20

ingrained that stuff as a kid. And

1:17:22

my mindset is constantly like, oh,

1:17:24

fuck. Here I am now,

1:17:27

I'm on camera, I'm in this moment. I know I can

1:17:29

be bad at this a lot. Please

1:17:31

God, let this be one of those moments where I'm pretty good

1:17:33

at it. Versus the things I've

1:17:35

been good at in my life, whenever

1:17:38

you do get the biggest stage, you

1:17:41

do have this ingrained mindset of like, oh,

1:17:43

hell yeah, I get to show off now

1:17:45

all the practice, all the execution, all the

1:17:47

skill that I believe that I have in

1:17:49

this realm, whatever it is, whether it's interviewing,

1:17:51

whether it's hockey, whether it's art, like whatever

1:17:53

the hell it is, like, there's an opportunity

1:17:55

to show off. And it's very funny that

1:17:57

you say that because I do think whether

1:18:00

it's like Rory swinging a driver at times

1:18:02

or whether, you know, it's, it's

1:18:04

Scotty now with his iron player, whether

1:18:06

it's Bryson in the bunker, like you're

1:18:08

saying, being like, Oh hell yeah, here

1:18:10

I am. We've been talking about the

1:18:12

crowds all week, this giant theater

1:18:15

on 18 and I get to hit

1:18:17

this shot way till these people see what I can

1:18:19

do. How much difference like that makes? Yeah.

1:18:21

100%. I think like, here's the reality.

1:18:24

Um, if Bryson tees up in

1:18:26

a major championship over the next five years, he's

1:18:28

going to be the guy to be and we

1:18:30

can pick certain guys. I mean, Brooks

1:18:33

Kepka has that too, right? He looked at

1:18:35

Brooks the last few years. He's that's what

1:18:38

we expect out of it. And yeah, I

1:18:40

mean, you can see it on players at

1:18:42

tournaments. Like, yeah, observationally since, I mean, I've

1:18:44

been out there since 2006, over

1:18:47

the year you start seeing that like, okay,

1:18:50

well that guy has, like

1:18:52

not even talking his body language, like how his,

1:18:54

how his persona is. And

1:18:57

obviously like we look back at Tiger Woods,

1:18:59

we talked about it, we saw it and it percuss

1:19:01

with. So you expected the guy to win by 12.

1:19:03

So, um, that's

1:19:06

just where I, my brain goes when I go

1:19:08

to tournament. It's not anymore of like, Oh yeah,

1:19:10

like I needed to fix his golf. It's

1:19:13

not that. I just look at how the mode

1:19:15

they're in and how their body language is and

1:19:18

how their team's operating. That's really interesting to

1:19:20

me because you think of

1:19:23

Bryson as the exact opposite of that. Like you think

1:19:25

of him as a guy who's like always worked like

1:19:27

as, as part of your process with

1:19:29

working with him, trying to ingrain that

1:19:32

in him. Cause I can't imagine him walking down

1:19:34

and being like, Oh, this just about body language.

1:19:36

You'd think that you want to know everything about

1:19:38

everyone's golf swing is, is he kind of matured

1:19:40

in that way of where it's like, you

1:19:43

know, I, I understand the mechanics or everyone mechanics

1:19:45

out here is going to be good. Maybe the

1:19:47

difference might be just what's going on between the

1:19:49

years. Yeah. A hundred percent. I mean, I saw

1:19:51

it at Augusta.

1:19:54

Like I saw it when he walked on the range

1:19:56

of the gust, like a hundred percent when he walked

1:19:59

in. I'm like, okay,

1:20:01

he's good. Like in all honesty, like I

1:20:03

can tell. I saw it

1:20:05

at the PGA, like we're on the

1:20:08

putting green and it was just a

1:20:10

little fine tuning of a few things. So I,

1:20:13

but in all honesty, like where he is

1:20:15

right now, even away

1:20:18

from majors, just how he's talking,

1:20:20

he's holding a mantle that he feels

1:20:23

comfortable with the responsibility. That's

1:20:25

the big part. Like the responsibility of him

1:20:27

being the, you know, the champion and like

1:20:30

he's, he's in that position. Obviously he's done

1:20:32

it before, but now he's

1:20:34

a, he's very comfortable. Like

1:20:37

it's kind of scary to be honest, like

1:20:40

how he talks and how he's, I mean, I'm not

1:20:42

used to it. Cause you know, it's not like I

1:20:44

have a guy and the one is a major every

1:20:46

year, but just observationally, I

1:20:48

think at my age, I kind of can

1:20:51

come to terms with that, but I can see it a hundred

1:20:53

percent. We had a conversation at,

1:20:56

at Valhalla, you and I, and you said, if he

1:20:58

could hit a cut, if he, if he was comfortable

1:21:00

hitting a cut, he would win every single tournament. Yeah.

1:21:03

Why is he, why is he so insistent

1:21:06

on the draws and is

1:21:08

the cut coming? Yeah, well, maybe,

1:21:10

I don't know. It's kind of like if

1:21:13

you look at players, okay, now,

1:21:16

and this is just anecdotal. Like this isn't like,

1:21:18

oh exactly, he's going to do this. But like,

1:21:21

if you looked at players who hit

1:21:24

it one way, which I prefer quite

1:21:26

frankly, like the rights and 99.9%

1:21:28

of the time to hit that

1:21:30

shot, like that just say to hit his draw and

1:21:33

play it. But once in

1:21:35

a while, there's a situation where you

1:21:37

might want to hold a ball that

1:21:40

falls to the right to a pin

1:21:42

and you know, when, when it matters.

1:21:44

Now here's what's funny is when

1:21:47

he's on the range, no problem, he can hit that shot. It's,

1:21:50

I've watched some game of the US Open, like you did

1:21:52

it with a driver, started a little left

1:21:54

and cut back. So he has the

1:21:56

shot. Now relative to, will he do it

1:21:58

in competition? I haven't really

1:22:00

seen it. And

1:22:03

can you, and this is the

1:22:05

other side of it. It's all

1:22:07

about commitment. Like you have to

1:22:09

commit to a shot. And they

1:22:11

commit to what they know they can do every single time.

1:22:14

So that's why most players hit it

1:22:16

one way all the time. I know

1:22:18

it's elegant to say that, you know,

1:22:21

Tiger has nine shot windows or

1:22:23

36 shot windows or 49, whatever. But

1:22:26

in realities, he hit one thing every

1:22:29

single time and maybe hit one

1:22:32

out of 50 times. So,

1:22:34

yeah. How difficult

1:22:36

is it for you to sort of

1:22:39

measure what

1:22:41

is going on in competition

1:22:43

under pressure versus the

1:22:45

range? Because I think that's one of the

1:22:47

most relatable things in the world of golf

1:22:49

is that a lot of people can get

1:22:51

to a spot where they're very comfortable with

1:22:54

a shot, with contact, with multiple shots, whatever

1:22:56

it might be. And then you get out

1:22:58

there, you're on a tee, you're in a

1:23:00

big match, you're on camera, you're just playing a game

1:23:02

with your buddies on the weekend, it's

1:23:04

the member guest, whatever it might be. On the pro level, you're

1:23:06

in the US Open, you know, and

1:23:09

all of a sudden everything changes. Your body feels different,

1:23:11

your limbs feel different. How do

1:23:13

you try to measure that and then, you know,

1:23:16

work backwards from that to improve

1:23:18

it, you know, in a practice

1:23:20

type sphere? Yeah. So

1:23:23

if I was the blanket statement, I would say it in

1:23:25

the process. So I

1:23:27

wouldn't see it. The outcome is going to be a

1:23:29

poor swing. But if the

1:23:31

process is, you know, if

1:23:33

you're on the range and you hit it good and, you

1:23:35

know, you have your foresight there and the ball's doing what

1:23:37

it's supposed to do and you film it on the

1:23:40

sports box, as we do, everything looks fine and

1:23:43

they go play and then they hit

1:23:46

a bad shot. Generally speaking, it's indecision

1:23:48

or it's process related. Was

1:23:52

the routine improper? Were

1:23:55

they in between clubs? Like there's a lot of

1:23:57

little outlying things that happen when you play golf,

1:23:59

which should happen. You know, that's the artistry of the

1:24:01

game, but Yeah,

1:24:04

it's like maybe the pins in a location I'm

1:24:06

trying to get to it now I'm not confident

1:24:08

my confidence goes from the honor to like the

1:24:10

feet Or

1:24:12

was my buddy chirping in my ear? Like

1:24:15

whatever it is like so I

1:24:17

always look at things from the process

1:24:19

standpoint being the player changing

1:24:21

the process when they're playing or

1:24:24

the end decisive on selection and

1:24:27

You know in in major championships

1:24:29

you start seeing that you start seeing some

1:24:31

players speed up you start seeing guys Maybe

1:24:35

over practice, you know,

1:24:37

I think that's like the overgrind I

1:24:40

see that sometimes at the PJ and friends

1:24:43

that are PJ members and then they qualify

1:24:45

and It's like they

1:24:47

showed up on Wednesday for the tournament. I played

1:24:49

18 every day. I'm like, dude, it's just here

1:24:52

Just you're gonna be spent.

1:24:54

So, um, yeah So that

1:24:56

like that's where I hang my hat And

1:24:59

who knows like I've always been the guys that

1:25:01

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1:27:07

been out there for almost 20 years. You

1:27:09

said 2006, you've

1:27:11

coached a bunch of players. How

1:27:13

much better is Bryson than the average tour pro?

1:27:17

And what is the ceiling for him? Like how good, I know he's

1:27:19

30 years old, so he's right in the middle of the prime. How

1:27:23

good can he be? Like

1:27:25

I said, I think from a technical

1:27:28

aspect, he's already there and there might

1:27:30

be some envelopes that he pushes, but

1:27:33

I think the big thing is that

1:27:35

he will prioritize

1:27:38

the bigger events and

1:27:41

being able to handle it. And I

1:27:44

mean, he is an outlier. I'm gonna be fair. And

1:27:48

yeah, I mean, he's a special player

1:27:50

for sure. But also on

1:27:53

the other flip side of that, I

1:27:55

think he's outside of this, the tournament

1:27:57

piece. He's very comfortable about holding the

1:27:59

other man. which is like being

1:28:01

an ambassador for the game, which is kind of like an

1:28:03

Arnold Palmer feel, which is also

1:28:06

huge. So, and I think

1:28:08

it's good for golf. Like at the end of the day,

1:28:11

especially being here in Long Beach and having a lot

1:28:13

of kids that play golf, I

1:28:16

care about them. And I

1:28:18

like, yeah, okay, I care about the tour

1:28:20

players, but I care about what happens for

1:28:22

their game and their future. And

1:28:24

so it's really nice to see somebody

1:28:26

step up and actually grow the game

1:28:29

of golf, bring more people to the

1:28:31

game. It's something that's really, really a

1:28:33

big responsibility and somebody is able to

1:28:35

do it.

1:28:37

Check all the right boxes is fun to

1:28:39

watch. So I think that's the next thing

1:28:42

for Bryson is like growing that aspect more

1:28:44

so than what he has pretty outstanding, to

1:28:46

be fair. It's

1:28:48

really cool. Really cool. Has Bryson

1:28:51

ever asked you a question

1:28:53

that you couldn't answer? Oh yeah.

1:28:55

Yeah, there's an example.

1:28:57

So when it gets anything that's into the

1:28:59

club base, which is

1:29:01

like, you know, club design, anything

1:29:04

of that nature, that's where that's on

1:29:07

my forte, more golf swing stuff. And

1:29:10

so I've learned a lot along

1:29:12

the way so far, Jeff from

1:29:15

crank golf, who's the driver, learning

1:29:19

that relationship and talking with him

1:29:21

and then LA golf, like that

1:29:23

relationship, learning from them. And so

1:29:26

like I said, like I'm not here to be

1:29:28

a Nipotent and have all the answers, but it's

1:29:30

not my job. My job is

1:29:32

to ask good questions at

1:29:36

the right time and then be as forthright as I

1:29:38

can with what I, at least I know about the

1:29:40

golf. But

1:29:43

yeah, I think when it gets into the

1:29:45

club space, that's a little dicey for

1:29:48

me at times, but he's asking

1:29:50

questions that other people have never asked to be fair

1:29:52

with all the, you know, when you're, when you're teaching,

1:29:54

you know, I know, like you said, a lot of,

1:29:56

a lot of local golfers, a lot of just your

1:29:58

average weekend warriors. Are you using

1:30:01

technology to the, you know, even close to

1:30:03

the degree that you're using it for Bryson?

1:30:05

I will say this. So people show up,

1:30:07

they take a lesson, they're filmed, maybe

1:30:10

they're on radar, not all the time,

1:30:12

but most of the time. And then

1:30:14

because I use a program that shows

1:30:17

angles, no rotational, all that kind of stuff, it's

1:30:20

a very quick way to

1:30:23

have them leave with better information. So

1:30:26

in the past, when you just filmed, or

1:30:28

if you didn't film and you told them

1:30:30

what to do, it's very subjective. Like, do

1:30:33

I have enough left bend? Do I have

1:30:35

enough rotation to the right or whatever it is? There's

1:30:39

not a good feedback loop. So like on my end,

1:30:41

yeah, I mean, when it makes a golf swing, it's

1:30:43

done in my brain in five seconds. I've seen them

1:30:45

hit it, I know what they need to work on.

1:30:48

But that's not important what I know. Like it

1:30:50

doesn't matter. They're not here for that. They're here

1:30:52

to fix it. They at least get an idea

1:30:55

what's wrong. They get a

1:30:57

implementation plan on how to fix it. And then

1:30:59

I tell them, okay, you need to do this

1:31:01

and this over this time span, and then they're

1:31:03

good. That's the

1:31:06

big part. And then if it ever gets into

1:31:08

any mental hurdles,

1:31:10

there's sometimes a lot of unwinding of

1:31:12

past experience that needs to happen. Because

1:31:15

they might have taken other lessons or they have

1:31:17

some identity of the golf or who they are.

1:31:19

And that needs to

1:31:21

be addressed. Makes sense. Last

1:31:23

thing I got for you, Bryson, on Sunday

1:31:26

at the US Open, obviously

1:31:28

plays great, gets the W. Didn't drive

1:31:31

it particularly well for him. Didn't drive

1:31:33

it as straight, you know, as he's

1:31:35

been throughout the year. How quickly after

1:31:37

the entire thing ended, did

1:31:40

he go to you with that? Because I have

1:31:42

a feeling that he, that registered in his brain

1:31:44

and he wanted to talk about that. Actually, he

1:31:46

did. When you're not so

1:31:48

he did a, he did a driver head

1:31:50

switch. So

1:31:53

I was watching it. Yeah. Yeah. So

1:31:55

when that, when that happened, yeah. So

1:31:58

like when that happened

1:32:00

the this and I'm guessing

1:32:02

because we really haven't talked

1:32:04

about it so the

1:32:07

spin rate probably changed it probably dropped a little bit

1:32:09

it was harder to draw so

1:32:11

he was able to start it right but

1:32:13

it didn't curve back enough and so

1:32:15

he just like all right I'm just gonna

1:32:17

play golf so and like

1:32:19

I said I wasn't that worried because he's

1:32:21

that good and

1:32:24

so yeah the ball just wasn't hearing

1:32:26

the way that it was the

1:32:29

player name so which is great so

1:32:31

it's a good test like hey he's

1:32:34

that he can win it he can win a major switching

1:32:37

a driver right before he that's insane

1:32:39

to go out there and and

1:32:41

just play knowing that like oh yeah this one isn't doing

1:32:43

what I would like it to do but I'm just gonna

1:32:45

go figure it out it's like

1:32:48

yeah that's just so anti what people would think

1:32:50

about Bryson right like be everything controlled and the

1:32:52

scientists and the whole deal and it's like no

1:32:54

just go be an artist to make it work

1:32:56

yeah yeah I mean I think

1:32:59

it's actually a good thing I don't look

1:33:01

at it as a bad thing because now

1:33:03

he has that much more of an edge

1:33:05

on who's gonna play again at

1:33:07

the British so I

1:33:10

guess I'm an optimist but you know a lot

1:33:12

of confidence coming from the Bryson camp which is

1:33:14

under say and by the way

1:33:16

is having having a record major championship

1:33:19

here I mean top T6 at the

1:33:21

Masters second of the PGA wins the

1:33:23

S Open that's about as

1:33:25

good as we've seen in a long time speaking of

1:33:28

the open it's it's given us some you know yeah

1:33:30

I know he had that one get he had a

1:33:32

good finish a couple years ago hasn't been he hasn't

1:33:34

played that as well as he's played the US base

1:33:36

majors you guys working on anything

1:33:38

lower ball is or you just cuz because

1:33:40

for him with all that wind that's so

1:33:43

many variables you know to input

1:33:45

yeah I think like the the

1:33:47

big variable is gonna be temperature

1:33:49

and width so we're gonna

1:33:51

kind of find out maybe the week before

1:33:54

because he's got other events going into it

1:33:57

but I think what's interesting

1:33:59

is once again, the narrative

1:34:02

piece is gonna be in

1:34:04

front of like what do you have to do?

1:34:06

Because in reality, like he's good

1:34:09

enough to win that tournament hands down. So

1:34:12

he doesn't have necessarily

1:34:14

a spin issue. So I think it's like

1:34:17

maybe adjust the game plan to fit the golf course

1:34:20

a little bit. Don't try to make the golf course

1:34:22

fit your game. Like that's what

1:34:24

it comes down to. I mean, that's a

1:34:26

Tommy armorism for Tommy. But

1:34:30

yeah, you have to make your game fit

1:34:32

the course. So whether it's hitting different clubs

1:34:34

off, you know, tees, playing

1:34:36

certain approach shots a certain way, don't

1:34:39

be it. But yeah,

1:34:41

I think with a level of confidence and

1:34:44

everything that he's been doing up until this

1:34:46

point and having better control over things, he's

1:34:49

gonna be at a good spot calling it. It's

1:34:51

interesting to hear you say that because I

1:34:53

remember he got asked in the presser after

1:34:55

he won at Pinehurst, how did

1:34:57

you change your preparation? Because Pinehurst is different than

1:35:00

any test you guys have kind of seen this

1:35:02

year. And he said, I didn't. He

1:35:04

was like, I know I'm hitting the ball.

1:35:06

I know if I just hit

1:35:09

the ball farther, straighter, I

1:35:11

have a higher trajectory and

1:35:13

my putting's great, I'm gonna win. And

1:35:15

so he was basically just like, yeah, I didn't change

1:35:18

it. Yeah. Yeah, your

1:35:20

formula as a golfer, I think that's the interesting

1:35:22

thing is we look at

1:35:24

guys who have won major championships, you

1:35:27

know, the Jack Nicklaus, Arnold Palmer,

1:35:30

Tiger Woods. I mean, they

1:35:32

all hit it far, they hit it high. I

1:35:34

mean, you look at Greg Norman when he won the

1:35:36

British Open and Tom Watson, they hit it far, they

1:35:39

hit it high. Yeah, I

1:35:41

think like the adaptation is just

1:35:43

kind of solely

1:35:46

like picking the right clubs and playing, plotting,

1:35:48

well, plotting the horse, hoarding. If

1:35:50

you plot well, you win, you drop the hammer. So, I

1:35:53

mean, I'm excited for that. I think,

1:35:56

you know, I think it might be a

1:35:58

very fun week. Well, man, I

1:36:00

got to you know, I got to agree

1:36:03

with you on a ton of fronts. It's

1:36:05

just been Bryson, even in a couple years

1:36:07

ago, when he wasn't as popular now, then

1:36:09

as he is now, he's still

1:36:11

making headlines every week. I think that's so good

1:36:13

for golf. And now he has seemed and it's

1:36:15

been talked about, I've already seemed to really come

1:36:18

into himself. It seems like Liv has been better

1:36:21

for him than it's been for anybody else.

1:36:24

He's really confident in who he is in

1:36:26

his golf game. And obviously, you're

1:36:29

a huge part of the golf game side.

1:36:31

And it sounds like even more than that.

1:36:34

So you got to be on a hell of a stretch. I love that you're

1:36:36

out there at the public course, giving

1:36:38

lessons in the golf cart. Yeah,

1:36:41

it's just a very cool vibe you guys got

1:36:43

right now. Yeah, we try. I mean, I'm just a

1:36:45

little piece to be honest. Like I'm not, I mean,

1:36:47

I'm very lucky to

1:36:49

be working with not

1:36:52

only a good player, but be around a good team. That's

1:36:55

one thing that's very interesting is that Bryson

1:36:57

has done a very good job putting the

1:36:59

right people around him. So

1:37:02

like his manager, as an agent, having

1:37:04

an unbelievable caddy. I mean, you couldn't

1:37:06

like Greg is integral. Like

1:37:09

his presence is really nice to be around.

1:37:11

It's actually a little bit infectious. Sorry, Greg,

1:37:13

blood smoke, but I'm really not. And

1:37:17

so it's and, you know, even like, He's

1:37:19

like the anti Bryson. He's like the most

1:37:21

calm. He's like a human. I think I

1:37:24

describe him as a human Xanax. Yeah, exactly.

1:37:26

100%. Yeah, 100%. And so having a great team. And

1:37:29

then also what's

1:37:31

interesting is even on the fitness

1:37:33

side, it's very, very intricate. So

1:37:36

like, I know he works with Greg, but

1:37:38

also, you know, kind of a partner is

1:37:40

Ryan was out there. And

1:37:42

like, so every step of the

1:37:44

way, like everything is, is calculated

1:37:47

properly. And what's also really neat

1:37:49

is, you know, we all have his best interest seeds,

1:37:51

the CEO of his golf game, we all have his

1:37:53

best interest. And so,

1:37:56

but I'm just a small piece of

1:37:58

that puzzle. Well, Like

1:38:00

I said, it's great to watch.

1:38:02

It's been great to witness. I think Bryson is

1:38:05

phenomenal for golf right now and has been

1:38:07

for years. He's transcending the game. You can

1:38:09

kind of tell a lot

1:38:12

of the other sports are picking it up.

1:38:14

The ratings were insane for the US Open

1:38:16

finish. Even him delivering at the end at

1:38:18

Valhalla, he was right there and hitting bombs

1:38:20

and making putts and celebrating. So it's been

1:38:23

very fun to watch. And obviously, you have

1:38:25

a lot of confidence in the

1:38:27

kind of belief that this is just the

1:38:29

start. So hopefully we got a lot more

1:38:31

fun stuff to watch. Yeah, I just hope

1:38:34

everybody like steps their iPhone clock for to

1:38:36

wake up early to watch the British. So Overflowing

1:38:41

with confidence. I love it. Yeah, I like that too. I

1:38:43

like that too. I we always forget we get hyped up

1:38:46

for the British and then it's like, Oh, you got to

1:38:48

wake up at 2am to watch it. You're like, yeah, I'll

1:38:51

be there. I'll be there. I'll go to bed.

1:38:53

Like you go to bed. Are you going to

1:38:55

the British? I'll be there. But I just ask

1:38:57

people like, you know, find a good pub and

1:38:59

just don't go to bed. Like,

1:39:01

just stay up. Why are you going to bed?

1:39:03

I tried that. I remember trying that for the

1:39:05

Ryder Cup and then woke up and then it

1:39:08

was just commercial after commercial. Remember the first like

1:39:10

hour to Ryder Cup coverage was horrible. And you're

1:39:12

like, dude, I'm up at 3am or 2am or

1:39:14

whatever it is. And all I'm doing is watching

1:39:16

commercials. It was kind of a nightmare. But I'll

1:39:18

I might stay up. I might go to sleep.

1:39:20

We'll see. Either way, we appreciate the time. I

1:39:22

know you're a busy guy. I know you got

1:39:24

a lot of work to do. A lot of

1:39:26

swings to fix out there and help out. So

1:39:28

keep up the good work and thank you. Good

1:39:30

luck with pricing going forward. Thank

1:39:32

you, boys. Appreciate it. Appreciate it.