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Drum roll please. Diary of a
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Wimpy Kid Christmas. Cabin Fever. Now
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time. Have you been good last
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Get ready for the wimpiest. I read
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about this family. They got snowed in.
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And to survive, they had to eat
0:17
each other. Fuck. Christmas ever. I
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Fart. Fart. Fart. Fart.
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Fart. Fart. Fart. Fart. Hey
0:36
Joy, what are you up to?
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Oh, you know, just single-handedly reinventing
0:41
music. Whoa. Just another
0:43
Wednesday, I guess. And
0:45
may I ask just how?
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You're reinventing music? Well, you
0:49
know, between being a beloved
0:51
podcast host, actor, wrestling club
0:53
president, and gum connoisseur, I'm
0:55
also... An aspiring
0:58
DJ. Yes, because
1:00
DJ Dolo is just too good of
1:02
a name to pass up. Was that
1:05
you making all those bleeps and bloops
1:07
just now? You better bleep-bloop-believe it. I
1:10
just found the most bananas
1:12
bonkers never-before-seen instrument in my
1:14
closet. It was right in between
1:16
my collection of party hats and my signed
1:18
Boyz II Men poster. I'm calling
1:20
it the Dolo-Phone Bleep Bloop 5000.
1:25
That looks like a keyboard. With
1:28
a bunch of knobs. Well,
1:30
what it is is the
1:32
Dolo-Phone Bleep Bloop 5000. Because
1:37
it bleep-bloops to the five thousands.
1:40
Wanna hear what I've been working on? Yeah! Music
1:46
to your ears, right? It's
1:50
definitely noise to
1:53
my ears. Joy,
1:55
I don't think that's any old
1:58
keyboard. You're right. It's not. It's
2:00
not a keyboard, it's the Dol-O
2:02
phone. Fleet Blue 5000. Actually,
2:07
I think it's called a synthesizer. Ah,
2:09
you're so right. It is a synthesizer.
2:12
Hey, I didn't know I could play the synthesizer. I'm
2:15
not so sure you can. Watch
2:17
out, world. E.J. Dol-O in the
2:20
house. You're
2:28
listening to Forever Go from APM
2:31
Studios, the show where we explore
2:33
the before. And today, I'm here
2:35
with my co-host, Lilica, from Santa
2:37
Barbara, California. What's up, Lilica? Hi,
2:39
Joy! Today,
2:42
we're talking about synthesizers. One
2:45
of the most revolutionary instruments
2:47
in history. Synths are huge
2:49
today, but they weren't always
2:51
as popular. It took a lot of
2:53
experimentation to bring synthesizers into the mainstream.
2:56
Which we'll learn about soon enough. But
2:59
first, let's listen to some synths. You
3:02
may not realize it, but synthesizers
3:04
are everywhere in music today. From
3:06
Break My Soul by Beyoncé. To
3:13
A Jeweled by Taylor Swift. To
3:20
A Boy by The Weeknd. Synths
3:30
sometimes look like a plastic
3:32
piano keyboard with a bunch of knobs and
3:35
dials. Yeah, but they
3:37
also look like metal boxes with
3:39
lots of switches, knobs, and buttons.
3:42
And they make such awesome sounds. Just listen
3:44
to my DOLO Phone Bleep Bloop 5000. I'm
3:51
still getting the hang of it. Lilica,
3:54
do you play any instruments? Yes,
3:56
I play ukulele and piano. How long
3:58
have you been playing ukulele? Acoustic
6:03
instruments make music by making physical
6:05
vibrations. When you strum a guitar,
6:07
the string's vibrate. When
6:10
you hit a drum, the drum
6:12
itself vibrates. When you sing like
6:15
how I'm singing now, your vocal
6:18
cord's vibrate. Synthesizers are different
6:20
from acoustic instruments. Instead of the
6:22
sound starting with movement, like vibrations
6:24
from strings or your vocal cords,
6:26
it starts with electricity. And
6:29
you can taste that electric signal and shape it
6:31
using all these knobs. Here, I can show you.
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Joy, permission to play the D'olephone Bleep Bloop 5000?
6:37
Abso-bleep-bleep-bleep-bleep. Thanks! Okay,
6:40
this is what the pure electric signal
6:42
sounds like. But
6:45
if I twist this knob, I can
6:47
completely transform the sound. It's
6:59
bankers and one instrument can make so
7:01
many different sounds. If you want to hear
7:03
more about how synthesizers work, our pals at
7:06
Brains On made an episode all
7:08
about it. So check it
7:10
out! Buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh-buh, Brains On. Synthesizers
7:13
are so cool. But
7:16
at first, people didn't really realize their
7:18
true potential. It's true. Synthesizers
7:20
got their start when electricity became
7:22
more widespread, and people started experimenting
7:25
with making electronic instruments throughout the
7:27
decades. But early synthesizers
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were really hard to play,
7:32
and really expensive. And
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they were huge. Right! They
7:37
took up whole rooms. You
7:39
couldn't exactly take your synths to band
7:41
practice. Unlike the D'olephone Bleep
7:43
Bloop 5000. So
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people kept trying to improve the
7:48
synthesizer into the 1960s, and that's
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when things really started taking off.
7:53
Technology was bleep-blop-booming.
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Most people had TVs in their homes, and the US
7:58
was set on figuring out how to craft travel to
8:00
the man. And
8:04
rock music was really starting to
8:06
take off. Turn
8:09
it up. I dig
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it, man. Groovy, baby. A
8:14
lot of different engineers wanted to make synthesizers
8:16
that were easier for musicians to play.
8:19
One of those people was Bob Moog. He
8:22
set out to build an instrument that would
8:24
be easy to use, not too expensive, and
8:26
not too big. After a couple
8:29
of years, Bob presented his first synth
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to a bunch of musicians, and a
8:33
lot of them were interested. Bob's invention
8:35
was exciting because it could make so
8:38
many different sounds, like a flute. Or
8:42
trumpets. With
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the Moog synthesizer, you can make the sounds of
8:50
different instruments without ever needing the
8:52
real instruments. Exactly. And
8:55
on top of mimicking instruments that already
8:57
exist, synthesizers could also make tons of
9:00
new sounds, like this. Well,
9:06
bleep my blorp, that's catchy. Almost
9:08
like music from outer space. Moog's
9:11
synthesizer used what looked like a piano
9:13
keyboard to control the sounds. So
9:15
musicians who were already familiar with
9:17
the piano could quickly transfer those
9:20
skills to the synthesizer. Exactly. It
9:22
was still pretty complicated to get a sound you liked. You
9:25
had to experiment by connecting lots of cables
9:27
and fiddling with a ton of knobs. But
9:30
once you found a sound you liked, you
9:32
could play it on the synthesizer almost like
9:34
a piano. Okay, so goal number one achieved.
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It was somewhat easier to play,
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and Moog's synths were also smaller,
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like they didn't take up an
9:43
entire room. Yeah, it's all relative.
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They were smaller, but still heavy. Each
9:49
one was about the size of a refrigerator turned
9:51
on its side. So it wasn't something you
9:53
could throw in your backpack, but definitely
9:56
smaller than other synthesizers at that time.
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They were also more for... Depending
10:01
on which custom parts he bought, they were anywhere
10:03
between $2,000 to $10,000. Today,
10:06
that'd be around the cost of a
10:09
car, or even a couple cars. That
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is... not very affordable, Lilica. I
10:13
know, like, not even close. But
10:16
another synthesizer around the time, called
10:19
the RCA Mark II, cost hundreds
10:21
of thousands of dollars to build.
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Okay, so I guess the Moog was cheaper in comparison.
10:27
Right. The average person
10:29
probably wasn't going to buy a synthesizer,
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but a college music department, or even
10:34
a wealthy musician, might have bought a
10:36
Moog. And people were making really experimental
10:38
music with some Moog. Here's a
10:41
song called Blues Mix by Joel Chaudhaby from
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1966. That
10:56
does sound like something from outer space.
10:58
Yeah! That's so weird. That
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sounds bizarrely fascinating.
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Very. I completely agree. And
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a lot of people thought synthesizers sounded bad
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or weird, which is wild
11:10
because they have so much potential. But
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back then, people didn't really see that.
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Yeah. Some people thought synths sounded more
11:17
like noise than music. That
11:19
meant synthesizers were not in the
11:21
mainstream. That is, until one album
11:24
came along and changed everything by
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putting a fresh new spin on something hundreds
11:29
of years old. Just like
11:31
how I'm reinventing music with my DOLOphone Bleep
11:33
Bloop 5000! Hey,
11:43
you're kind of getting the hang of that. Aw,
11:46
yeah! Alright, hold the
11:48
story. Let's celebrate with a little game
11:50
I like to call... First Things First!
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Today we've got three musical
12:02
instruments, the saxophone, the harp,
12:05
and the banjo. Liliko, which
12:07
do you think came first, which came
12:09
second, and which came most recently in
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history? Ooh, this is a good
12:13
one! Oh, they all feel
12:15
so plausible. Yeah, they do.
12:18
Okay, so let's start with which one you think might be
12:21
the newest. How about that? Maybe saxophone? Like,
12:23
they have a lot of moving parts, so
12:25
I could see where it might have been
12:27
difficult to produce for a
12:29
while. Yeah, yeah, they've got all those little
12:31
buttons and flippers and things with that, yeah.
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Yeah, yeah. I don't know, and I
12:36
feel like the harp, I feel like, is really old.
12:38
It just has, I feel like, I
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mean, if you think about it, like back in ancient Greece
12:43
they had liars, so... Yes,
12:45
yes, I thought that too. And
12:47
a lyre is a stringed instrument. It actually kind
12:49
of looks like a harp. But
12:51
banjos also have strings. Do
12:53
you think the lyre is the grandfather of
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the banjo, maybe? I
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am... Sorry, I'm just
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trying to picture, like, the god Apollo just casually
13:02
playing his banjo. That
13:06
would make for a great mythology story. It's like,
13:08
the band that just came down the mountain.
13:12
Yeah, absolutely, just playing his
13:14
banjo. I would enjoy that
13:16
deeply. That's a story I'd read.
13:19
Yeah. I feel like
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the harp has to be first,
13:23
just because of just
13:26
how historic it is. Yeah.
13:29
So I'm gonna go with
13:31
the harp first, and
13:33
then I feel like the banjo,
13:35
and then the saxophone. I don't
13:37
know, I'm doubting myself big time here.
13:40
I'm gonna go with you, I'm gonna tell
13:42
you to trust your instinct, because that's what I think too. I
13:45
think the lyre thing is really a
13:48
key component in this. So we'll
13:50
say the harp is first, the
13:52
banjo is second, and then third
13:54
is the saxophone. Yeah. They
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listening to Forever Go. popular
18:00
record came out that helped since
18:02
sound more like mainstream music. It
18:04
was produced by Wendy Carlos and Rachel
18:06
Elkind. Instead of writing a bunch
18:08
of new songs, they decided to hook people on
18:11
something they already knew. Something deep
18:13
in the crevices of their brainfolds, like
18:15
Old McDonald, with a bleep blorp here
18:17
and a bleep blorp there, hear a
18:19
bleep there, a bloop everywhere, a bleep bloop!
18:22
Yes, something all up in
18:24
their brainfolds. And that
18:26
something was music from Johann Sebastian
18:28
Bach. Oh, I've heard that name
18:30
before. Isn't he a German
18:33
classical composer from like forever
18:35
ago? That's also the name
18:37
of the show? You get it?
18:40
You get it? No, but he
18:43
was like a German classical composer from like the 1700s? Yeah,
18:45
but you still probably know some of his
18:48
songs, like these. Bach
19:22
has bangers! It's true. So
19:25
Wendy and Rachel decided to take some of
19:27
these songs by Bach and play them
19:29
on the synthesizer. But recording the album
19:31
wasn't easy. It took over 1,000 hours
19:34
to finish the album,
19:36
which spanned over five
19:38
months. Five months? That's
19:41
like a whole winter and
19:43
spring just playing the synthesizer.
19:45
And it was really tricky work. For
19:48
one thing, at this point, synthesizers
19:50
could only play one note at
19:52
a time. This made Wendy and
19:54
Rachel's job much harder because a
19:56
lot of times when musicians write
19:58
music, including Bach, they use chords.
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That's when you play multiple notes at the same
20:03
time, like this. But
20:08
at the time, the synthesizer could only play
20:10
one note at a time, so you had
20:12
to play note by note, like this. So
20:18
when Wendy and Rachel wanted to create a chord
20:20
sound, they had to record each
20:22
note separately and then stack them on top
20:25
of each other layer by layer. It
20:33
makes the DoloPhone Bleep Bloop 5000 sound
20:35
like a breeze. And that's not even
20:37
the end of it. The synthesizer was
20:39
constantly going out of tune, and sometimes
20:42
Wendy had to literally bang it with a
20:44
hammer to get it just right. Unlike
20:48
me, I have perfect pitch. M-m-m-m-bleeep
20:51
bloop bloop.
20:55
Bl-oo-oo-oo-oo-oo. So
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after months of recreating these Bach songs,
21:05
Wendy and Rachel released their album in
21:07
1968. It
21:10
was called a switched on Bach, and it
21:12
sounded like this. That
21:24
sounds awesome! Yeah, it does!
21:27
Others thought so, too. And the album
21:29
was a huge hit. People could hear
21:31
classical music that was familiar, but in
21:33
a new exciting form. It's
21:36
extraordinary. Bach is back,
21:38
baby, and better than
21:40
ever. Far out!
21:43
It was genius! Wendy
21:45
and Rachel took the same instrument
21:47
that was once considered bizarre and
21:49
mostly only used in experimental academic
21:51
settings and presented it to the
21:53
public in a way they could understand. Right!
21:56
It was so popular at the time. The
21:58
radio was playing it alongside pop
22:00
and rock songs. In 1970
22:02
it won three Grammys including
22:04
best classical album. And
22:07
it would go on to sell over
22:09
1 million copies making Switched on Bach
22:12
one of the most successful classical albums
22:14
of all time. And thanks to Wendy
22:16
and Rachel's breakthrough album the synthesizer
22:19
started showing up in music
22:21
everywhere from Maxwell's Silver Hammer
22:23
by the Beatles or
22:33
in the bassline it's Stevie Wonder's song
22:35
In The Precision. synthesizers
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weren't just for the radio. Right. Since
23:02
started to be more widely used for
23:04
sound effects in commercials video games
23:07
and movies Wendy and Rachel
23:09
even went on to use the
23:11
synthesizer to score films like A
23:13
Clockwork Orange, The Shining, and Tron.
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And by the 1980s synthesizers were
23:17
getting smaller and more affordable. As
23:19
computer technology advanced so did
23:22
synths. They went digital
23:24
which means instead of using an
23:26
electric signal to make sound the
23:28
synthesizers used computer code which made
23:30
them more accessible to everyone. That's
23:32
awesome! Switched on Bach
23:34
was a game changer. It really
23:36
helped bring synthesizers into the mainstream.
23:39
Today synthesizers are everywhere in music
23:41
and have influenced so many genres.
23:43
To learn more we talked to
23:45
Rihanna Cruz. Howdy
23:48
I'm Rihanna Cruz and I'm the producer
23:50
of the podcast Switched on Pop. We
23:52
are a show about the making
23:55
and meaning of popular music.
23:57
Switched on Bach is really
23:59
important because it motivated
24:01
thousands of people to get
24:04
their own synthesizers, it topped
24:06
the Billboard classical album chart
24:08
for four years, and
24:10
really introduced people to the
24:13
possibilities that sound could
24:15
do, and the
24:17
possibilities that electronic
24:19
instruments could do at that
24:22
point. It just revolutionized things in a
24:24
lot of ways, and I think it's really,
24:26
really important even now, right? Like 60 years
24:29
passed when it was made.
24:31
They're in rock music since the
24:34
60s. They're all over 80s
24:36
music. If you listen to an 80s music
24:38
and you're like, this sounds kind of cheesy,
24:40
there's a synthesizer in there that makes it
24:42
sound like that, and that's sort of a
24:44
charm, right? You hear
24:47
it in funk music. Funk music
24:49
has synthesizers as the
24:51
bass, as the backbone. Sampling,
24:54
which is a cornerstone of hip
24:56
hop, and electronic music, but also
24:58
hip hop, that was introduced because
25:00
of a synthesizer. Hip hop
25:02
without the synthesizer would
25:04
not be a genre, you
25:06
know, because you wouldn't have sampling, you
25:09
wouldn't have the drum machines. There just
25:11
would be nothing, really. There's
25:13
a lot of genres that I think would
25:16
never happen or never get realized
25:19
if, you know, the synthesizer was
25:22
not present. I feel like if we didn't
25:24
have the synthesizer today, music would
25:26
all be analog. And not
25:28
that that's necessarily a bad thing, right?
25:30
People make really great analog music. They
25:32
always have, and they continue to, but
25:35
I think that potential
25:37
of imagination wouldn't
25:41
necessarily be there in the
25:43
way that it is now. And that's what
25:45
I love about music is that it's very imaginative, and
25:47
I get to hear things that I never thought I
25:50
could ever hear before. And I feel like
25:52
a lot of that wouldn't be present if there
25:54
weren't synthesizers. today
26:00
would look so different without synthesizers.
26:03
There would definitely be no dolophone bleep
26:05
bloop 5000s. Hit
26:08
it, Joy. This
26:19
episode was written by Rachel Breeze
26:21
and Ruby Guthrie. We had production
26:24
help from Nico Gonzales-Wistler, Sandin Totten,
26:26
Shayla Farzan, Arunul Deslassi, Anna Goldfield,
26:28
Rosie Dupont, Mark Sanchez, and Anna
26:30
Waggle. Sound design by Rachel
26:33
Breeze. Theme music by Mark
26:35
Sanchez. Beth Perlman is our executive
26:37
producer. We had engineering help
26:39
from Anna Haverman, Der Krameras, and Elliott
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Lanham. The executives in charge
26:44
of APM Studios are Tandra Cavati,
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Joanne Griffith, and Alex Shafford.
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Additional editing help from Cassius
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thanks to Peter Morrow and Charlie Harding.
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27:04
Lilica. Ready to hear the answers for first
27:07
things first? Yeah, I'm nervous.
27:09
I know me too. I'm so excited. OK,
27:12
so just like for a reminder, first,
27:14
we had harp, and
27:17
then second, we had banjo, and
27:19
then the most recent, we had
27:21
saxophone. Yeah. Ba ba da ba
27:23
ba ba ba ba da. Da
27:26
da da da da da. Duh-huh, this is
27:28
tense. Duh da da da
27:30
da da da. All
27:32
right, here we go. Oh,
27:34
wow. Shoot. You
27:39
were right. Oh! Duh!
27:42
Yeah! Sike!
27:46
You were absolutely right, yeah. So
27:49
first up was the harp. The harp
27:51
dates back to as early as 3000
27:53
BCE in ancient Egypt. There
27:57
are records of the harp appearing in various cultures
27:59
across the world. the globe, including Asia,
28:01
Africa, and Europe. The harp often
28:03
represents hope or heaven and is
28:06
even a national symbol for Ireland.
28:09
Whoa, I didn't know any of that. Isn't
28:11
that something? Oh yeah. Yeah. I
28:14
didn't know any of that either, but also I feel like we were
28:16
on the right track, right? It definitely is
28:18
the oldest of them. Yeah, Orpheus certainly
28:20
didn't make his way down to the
28:22
underworld with a banjo. But
28:25
speaking of banjos, that was next up. That
28:27
was the 17th century and early 1600s. The banjo
28:31
was invented by enslaved Africans and
28:33
their descendants in colonial North America
28:36
and the Caribbean, dating back to the early
28:38
17th century. And so the banjo was inspired
28:40
by various West African instruments with
28:42
a round gored body, long
28:45
neck, and plucky strings. It
28:47
became a staple sound in American bluegrass, country, and
28:49
folk music. I think that's what we were referencing
28:51
earlier, right? Yeah, that's so cool. Yeah.
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And then last but not least
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is the saxophone. The
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saxophone was invented by Belgian Adolf Sax.
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Oh, Adolf Sax. I wonder where they got the
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name from. In the early 1840s,
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he originally intended
29:08
for the instrument to be used in orchestras and
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military bands. And at first, most
29:12
orchestras thought the saxophone was too
29:14
experimental, but the instrument really caught
29:16
on with French military bands, some
29:19
of which ended up stationed in
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New Orleans. And that's how the
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saxophone eventually made its place in
29:25
jazz music. You know, New Orleans
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is like the home of jazz.
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Yeah, we have the saxophone, the
29:32
dolophone. Yeah. Well, congratulations
29:34
on getting all the first thing first
29:36
answers. And stick around, because
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we'll be back next week with an episode
29:41
all about the history of chewing
29:43
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