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Welcome to 4 Finger Discount with This Week We're here to

2:09

review episode 7 of season 19 of

2:12

The Simpsons. It is Husbands and Knives. I am Dan

2:14

O. And I am Guy and I

2:16

charge this episode with an egregious waste of Jack Black.

2:20

I posted in the 4 Finger Discount

2:22

Patreon group last night and I think

2:24

on our Discord as well that I've

2:27

got a rant coming right. I saw this and I was

2:29

like ooh. So it's not necessarily anything

2:31

that happens in the episode that bothered me

2:33

with this one right. Yes.

2:36

This is it. You just mentioned Jack Black. One of

2:38

my favourite actors of all time. At

2:40

this point in this episode when it aired 2007 one of the biggest

2:42

stars in the world, still one of the biggest stars in the world

2:44

right. Who among us does not like the Jables. And he feels like

2:46

the kind of guy who, I don't want to hear that oh we

2:49

only had him for a certain amount of time, he feels like the

2:51

kind of guy who if he said we want to have you on

2:53

The Simpsons he'd go where, when, how long do you need me for.

2:56

Sometimes when you say a little something goes a long

2:58

way it can be a backhanded compliment. It's like this

3:00

person's a bit much. Yes. But

3:02

a little Jack Black goes a

3:04

long way. He's concentrated chaos

3:06

and mayhem in the best possible way. Yeah.

3:10

Yet in this episode I felt like we got,

3:12

there's not a lot of Jables. I mean not

3:16

properly utilised. Not exploited to

3:19

the best of his abilities. So what bothered

3:21

me with this right was I was so

3:23

excited at the start. Because

3:25

I went, what's the character's

3:27

name that he plays? Running

3:29

Coolsville. I'll find it in a

3:31

second. Anyway the character he finds in Coolsville right.

3:34

Let's find it. His name is. Milo.

3:36

Milo that's right. Milo the owner of Coolsville. The

3:38

new comic book store here in Springfield that is

3:40

now Hipper and cooler and more with it.

3:43

It's you know it's finally happened to comic book guy. It'll happen to

3:45

you it's happened to comic book guy right. It's

3:47

the 2007 equivalent of what people thought a comic book

3:49

store should be. Everyone loved it right. He

3:52

came out he started speaking I thought. Somebody.

3:55

I listened I thought oh wait a minute it's Jack

3:57

Black. I never knew Jack Black was on The Simpsons. I

3:59

was super excited. I couldn't believe it. I thought

4:01

this is going to be great. A whole episode

4:03

around Milo versus comic book guy. Nay.

4:07

No, it was not that. We had

4:09

an entire first act that I really enjoy

4:11

with the comic book stores and comic book

4:13

guy getting his alchemuppance for being a jerk all

4:15

these years and his store closes down right, which

4:18

leads Mars to opening up her own gym

4:20

where the Android's dungeon used to be, right?

4:23

Correct. What shit me about this was that

4:25

after that first act, there is no reference

4:27

to the comic book stores anymore. No, it's

4:29

not. Zero. Milo,

4:31

Jack Black's not even referenced anymore. So the comic

4:34

book store is closed down, gone, right? Apparently. Marj

4:36

has turned it into a gym. She's now incredibly

4:38

successful. Now I preface this by saying, Matt, someone,

4:40

I know you wrote this episode and I love

4:42

you. We went for dinner. We shared a drink.

4:45

Pals, right? But the thing is that

4:47

what it takes. Is that all it takes? But

4:50

the thing is, okay, Matt,

4:53

so you wrote this plot

4:55

point where we have a new comic book

4:57

store in Springfield, a really fun, interesting development,

4:59

right? And I'm sitting here thinking as

5:01

a fan, holy shit, is Jack Black

5:04

going to be a recurring character as his new comic

5:06

book store? Because by the end of the episode, there's

5:08

no explanation about getting back to the status quo. It

5:11

is assumed he must be still there. Yes,

5:13

indeed. Now, do you want to continue? Because

5:15

yes, I'm okay. I'm nearly done. Right. So

5:18

I'm going to, I'm not going to stop you. So I can't stop

5:20

it. So it got to the end of the episode and

5:23

you don't have to get back to the status quo every time. Right.

5:26

But at least explain something, right? You'd have to

5:28

say go full back to the status quo, but

5:30

explain something. You can't introduce Coolsville as a comic

5:32

book store. Comic book guy goes out of business.

5:34

Marge opens up shapes in return in its

5:37

place and never referenced it again for the

5:39

whole episode. Because as a viewer in

5:41

2007, I would have been sitting there going,

5:43

okay, cool. Next episode is going to be how Coolsville

5:45

is going to be in the new comic book store.

5:47

They never referenced Coolsville again ever. Why

5:50

did I have the bowl? No, no, no. I'm

5:53

going to do two things. Yeah. First

5:55

of all, I'm going to suggest the writers

5:57

of the show. Matt Salmon et al in

5:59

the writers room. maybe gave themselves a bit

6:01

of an escape hatch. Then secondly, I'm gonna

6:03

do Matt and his pals a solid by

6:05

fixing your episode. Matt's gonna

6:08

go, fuck this guy. It

6:11

is, with that guy who, for what? How

6:13

many fingers? Just that

6:15

one? To me? Sorry,

6:19

Matt, I love you, I

6:21

respect you. You didn't buy me dinner. We

6:25

invited you, and it is the V.

6:27

I invited Guy to that dinner, and he was like, nah, nah, not bothered.

6:29

And then at the end, I was like, oh, we went out for dinner

6:31

with Phil Rosenfoh and Matt, and he was like, well, you had a top

6:34

year, I would've come. And I'm like, oh, so

6:36

it was just me eating your fuck. That's correct. Okay,

6:40

I will say that in

6:43

the very early stage of this episode where they're

6:45

talking about, like, you know, the various

6:48

comic book imprints and how, oh,

6:50

yeah, this happened, but, you know, it wasn't continuity,

6:52

all that kind of stuff, they're sort of planting

6:54

a sea for like, what

6:56

happens in this episode doesn't really happen. It's

6:59

not canon, it's just a bunch of stuff

7:01

that happens. It's not a great

7:03

escape hatch, but it's sort of plausible deniability on

7:05

their part. Perhaps, perhaps, I'm not saying this is

7:07

actual fact, but it's one way that I read

7:09

it. I don't say that I approve of it,

7:11

but I'm saying that it's happened. Second

7:14

thing is, here's where I fixed the episode,

7:16

because, okay, you've got two competing businesses, in

7:18

that you've got the Androids dungeon, and now

7:20

you've got Coolsville. The way I would set it up

7:23

is, the comic book guy

7:25

is annoying, and, you know, he overcharges,

7:27

and he's rude to the customers on

7:29

this kind of stuff, but

7:31

he's legit. He legitimately loves comic

7:34

books, he loves the lore, everything about it. And,

7:36

you know, he's the kind of, you need to

7:38

throw in a scene where he actually sort of

7:40

steers someone in the right direction and goes, well,

7:42

if you actually like that comic book, you would

7:44

probably enjoy this one very much. I just couldn't

7:46

believe that didn't go back. This would have been

7:48

a great B-plot to go back to throughout the

7:50

episode. Yeah, and that's the thing, you make him

7:52

legit, but

7:54

then Coolsville sets up, Milo looks like a

7:56

great guy, talks the talk, doesn't necessarily walk

7:58

the walk. Because they've already established that

8:01

he knows a lot about superheroes and he brings

8:03

in big guest stars. Yeah, I think you need

8:05

to make him like a

8:07

real opportunity. He's like, there's money in their comic book

8:09

stores and he's done his reading, but he's a

8:13

pretender. He's a poser. And you know,

8:15

it sort of makes you a fan with money.

8:17

Yeah. He's, um, who brought the

8:19

monorail? What's a, what's a law landly? Yeah. He's

8:22

a, he's the law landly. Not quite to that extent, but no, no,

8:24

no. But yeah, he's a bit

8:26

of a, he's a bit of a charlatan, you know, and at the

8:28

end, you know, it's like, uh, well

8:30

the money's well in there, the comic book thing. I'm going to

8:33

go open a some something other store. I'm going

8:35

to go open a frozen yogurt store because that's where the

8:37

money is now. Yeah. The true,

8:39

I think that I think the way they could have done

8:41

it was maybe he wasn't a fan of radioactive man or

8:43

something and that's Springfield's go to heroes in a radioactive man.

8:46

Yeah. Or yeah. He gets busted

8:48

sort of saying to strawberry his girlfriend. These

8:51

kids are so annoying. I hate hanging out with these comic

8:53

book nerds. Everyone in his stores, flls.

8:56

Yeah. Make him a gabbo. Everything

8:59

is improved by making them a gabbo. Yeah.

9:03

Now that's your, your B plot and you have that

9:05

sort of, you have nice double helix going on where

9:07

Marge is opening an authentic gym.

9:11

She's still successful. You don't know by the end of

9:13

it. That everyone's into, uh, but

9:16

she gets overrun by

9:19

like the, the fake poser

9:21

gym, like LA body works or whatever.

9:23

They do some weird thing to basically

9:25

screw her out of her business. It

9:27

restores the status quo and you've got

9:29

two storylines that are sort of intersecting

9:31

and sort of interconnected. But

9:34

one shows that, yeah, authenticity wins out. And the

9:36

other one goes, no, we're suckers

9:38

and we'll, we'll fall for, we'll fall for a ruse

9:40

if it's done. And if it's wrapped up in

9:42

a nice packaging, it's a little package and they will

9:44

pack it. Look, this, this

9:47

needs work on my part, but I think that would

9:49

be, I think that's something you could

9:51

do in the course of, you know, 25, 20, 20

9:53

for the lead minutes, 22, 22 minutes. I

9:59

was just fiber gasses. but

12:01

they give us a reasonable explanation as to how and why.

12:03

It can't just be that, my

12:05

dog's barking. It'd be the postman I reckon. Dropping

12:08

off my DVDs from Umbrella Entertainment maybe. Ooh, all

12:10

right. That's a legitimate friendly comment. Well if you

12:12

can hear barking, it's Jet, the lovable jet. We

12:14

love him here at Four Finger Discount. I don't

12:16

think anyone's gonna complain No, no,

12:18

it's a great jetty. How's it going buddy? Yeah, hey

12:20

man. But the thing is, so the

12:23

status quo, right? They always explained how and why.

12:26

I don't want to get to the end of

12:28

an episode as a viewer, right? So say in

12:30

2007 I was watching this, you would end this

12:32

episode and think, oh, Marge has now got a

12:34

successful franchise and they're rich and comic book guy

12:36

is no longer in business and Coolsville's the new

12:38

store and Jack Black's gonna be recurring character as

12:40

the owner of the store. Nope, next episode, it's

12:43

literally just nothing happened. Comic

12:45

book stores open again, no shapes

12:47

and Coolsville's non-existent. How does

12:49

that happen? I don't know. That's,

12:51

as I said, Matt, I love you, but that

12:53

has taken the viewers for granted, I think, because

12:56

you've got to explain something. We

12:58

are willing to accept status quo, whatever absurd explanation

13:00

you give us, we'll take it by this point.

13:02

These felt like major developments. But don't just go,

13:04

it doesn't matter, they'll just forget about it the

13:06

week after. That's not what Simpsons fans do. And

13:09

that's, I think, why a lot of people, if

13:11

this is a recurring thing, maybe that's why people

13:13

jumped off the show for a while, now

13:15

still. That makes a lot of sense to me. Because if I'm

13:17

watching a show that I dedicated so

13:19

long for and I've watched for so long and I love it, and

13:22

then all of a sudden they just started having storylines that don't

13:25

have endings and then the next episode was just like, oh, that

13:27

doesn't happen. That never happened, that doesn't exist.

13:29

That would bother me to the point where I go, well,

13:32

you don't respect me as a viewer anymore. Well, something where

13:34

it's this pivotal. That's huge. It really

13:36

is. Corporate guys out of business, the

13:38

Simpsons are now rich and rich, successful with a

13:40

gym franchise, and it's just not existing

13:42

the following episode. Have

13:46

I actually had the surgery in March just

13:48

to spend all of our fortune to get

13:50

home and back to normal? Something stupid like that,

13:52

right? Actually, yeah, that works. Just something silly. I

13:54

don't care. Just give us something. I think

13:56

we would probably be griping about it. if

14:01

Marge blew her fortune on restoring home at a

14:04

home, but still, yeah, you

14:06

would feel like, oh, well, at least they'd

14:08

made the effort to revert

14:10

us back to factory settings. Yeah, just, I

14:13

wanted something, it just really annoyed me. That

14:15

was my rant, that you'd established all these

14:18

changes, and we know Matt doesn't,

14:20

he doesn't care about canon and all that kind

14:22

of thing, right? That's fine, but he

14:24

always falls back on that. Each episode lives in its own

14:26

bubble. But you gotta, this

14:28

is too pivotal. Comic

14:30

book guy's been there from season two, that Android's dungeons

14:33

are a big part of the show. The

14:35

Simpsons are now rich, Marge is hugely successful

14:37

with the gym franchise, you have

14:39

to take that away from her. Yeah, of course I'm gonna like

14:42

my idea, but I do like my idea of, yeah, Milo

14:44

the comic book guy being, yeah,

14:46

just a fly-by-night operator who's like, well,

14:49

there's no money in comic books anymore, so

14:51

I'm gonna go do something else. All

14:54

the kids are like, but we trusted you. He's

14:56

like, well, that's your bad luck. Whereas comic

14:58

book guy, he can't do anything else. You know

15:01

he could have done, he could have had maybe,

15:03

kind of like Cartman Land, right, recently, where I

15:05

just can't notice someone to that at all. But you know, going down

15:07

to South By, check it out if you haven't already. So comic

15:10

book guy goes out of business, Coolsville's going well,

15:13

and then after a while, the guy, Milo realizes,

15:15

oh shit, there's no money in this, I'm losing

15:17

a ton of money. Comic book guy goes, well,

15:19

well, well, I can take it over for you,

15:21

and he takes over, and then he becomes the

15:23

new owner of Coolsville, just turns it back into

15:25

the Android dungeon. Your last thing you see is

15:28

the Coolsville's own coming down, or just a really

15:30

makeshift sign of like, Android's dungeon. Yeah, because

15:33

the Android's dungeon has been completely gutted and

15:35

turned into the shapes. Yeah. What?

15:38

Or you get a fancied up Android's

15:40

dungeon in the Coolsville show. At least have

15:43

Marge sell the franchise's shapes to somebody, right?

15:45

Maybe, maybe. Comic book

15:47

guy, I don't fucking know. Anyway,

15:49

Rich Texan, or was

15:51

it Lindsay Nagel, who was at LA Body Works? It looked, or,

15:54

that kind of, it wasn't this name, but it was

15:56

Tress. It was them swooping. Yeah.

15:59

And it's like, Marge, we. really like your body positive.

16:01

Jim, we think that's really the way to go. It's

16:03

Fleeter Peter against the Pretzel Wagon. Yeah. It's

16:05

the same story. a way like body

16:07

works or whatever it is. Yeah, and that's it. And then you

16:10

just have, can we take over Coorsville Because

16:12

as I said, I really like the idea

16:14

of authenticity wins on one hand and corporate

16:16

cynicism wins on the other hand. That strikes

16:18

me as classic Simpsons. Yeah. It

16:21

really does. You could end the episode with him getting all

16:23

those quirky comics that weren't normally available in Springfield and going,

16:25

no, thank you. You put them in the bin or something.

16:27

Yeah, and then you have Alan Moore up top coat. That

16:31

fucking guy. Yeah. Being classic Alan Moore

16:33

grump. Yeah. Just that's it. That's all

16:35

you had to do, man. That's all you had to do,

16:37

man. We worked it out in 20 minutes. Hey,

16:42

my favorite. What were your favorite moments of the episode?

16:44

If you did have any though. I

16:47

don't know my revised version. I

16:50

didn't mind the, I'm going to the successful ladies

16:52

room with the double sign on the ladies. I

16:54

really like that. That gag. Look,

16:57

despite what we were saying about Coorsville. Coorsville

16:59

is a little pretty nice. By the way, I

17:02

enjoyed this episode. Just that structure bothered me,

17:04

but overall the episode I actually enjoyed. This

17:07

is one of those episodes where I like the

17:09

idea. I like the foundation. I just don't think

17:11

it was executed all that well.

17:13

Okay. Yeah. In

17:16

what way? I didn't have an ending. Yeah, there's

17:18

that. Yeah, the whole, as

17:20

you were saying about, this feels

17:22

like canon now. It was weird, wasn't it?

17:24

And then when it gets to the end, you went, Oh, because

17:26

how do you write an episode but I have a beginning, beginning,

17:28

middle and end. It's like they got to the two thirds into

17:31

the episode and went, and that's the end of the episodes. But

17:33

where's the end? What? It

17:36

honestly felt like a first draft of an

17:38

episode as opposed to an episode or a

17:40

bunch of ideas that we had for an

17:42

episode. And it needed

17:45

one or two more passes. I'm like, okay, how

17:47

do we make this work? How do we follow

17:49

this into this? At least Homme's not being a

17:51

jerk in recent episodes. But like in this one

17:53

here, this isn't Homme being a jerk. He's sort

17:56

of living the high life, but then he realizes,

17:58

oh shit, I need to up my game here.

18:00

she's gonna replace me. So he's constantly trying to

18:03

find a way to please Marge. It's not him

18:05

just, I feel like last season even,

18:07

they would have had Homer just being an absolute dick

18:09

and spending all of Marge's money all the time on

18:11

useless shit. He wasn't doing it, it was just sitting

18:13

by Paul enjoying life, enjoying

18:15

the extra money. And in the rest of the episode, he was

18:17

spent trying to work out how to keep Marge, which I thought

18:19

was nice. Yeah, no, I think I agree with you on that

18:21

point. And he did go over the top, which is what you

18:23

and I would do. If we thought we're losing the love of

18:26

the ways on the, we'd go over the top and get teeducks

18:29

and antipoles and whatnot. Oh,

18:33

and look, the reason I started to zero out a bit of

18:36

sugar from my diet and get my steps and everything,

18:38

I was like, better keep myself in shape with

18:41

the lovely Louise. Things I

18:43

enjoyed about this episode, I enjoyed Coorsville. I mean,

18:45

it reminded me of maybe

18:47

the first time that I set foot in

18:49

a- That's what I thought too. In a comic book

18:51

store, like going to a place like Minotaur in Melbourne

18:53

and Geelong had its own Minotaur for a while. When

18:55

you find that place that has obscure shit, you're like,

18:57

I've always wanted to see this. All

19:00

my favorite books in one place. You were talking

19:02

about Premiere, the magazine, when you went first available

19:04

in Australia, the movie magazine, when you discover something

19:06

that you thought, oh my God, there

19:08

was a news agency in Norlaine here in Geelong, it's

19:10

where I grew up, right? And they

19:13

were the only place locally that stopped the Simpsons

19:15

comics. And there was another news agency about, I

19:17

don't know, 10 minute drive

19:19

away. They didn't have it, but I went

19:21

to this other particular one, they had the Simpsons comics. And

19:23

I'm like, thank you, because you're my only source of this.

19:26

That's what Coorsville was like. So we're finding that place

19:28

that stocks something that you couldn't find

19:31

anywhere else. Absolutely, yeah, no. So you

19:33

really feel like, oh, my home, my people.

19:35

Yes, yeah. I mentioned Alan Moore before. I

19:37

love that they just played up his reputation

19:39

as a notorious grump. He hated V for

19:41

Vendetta or something. You do what his name

19:43

of the credits. Watchmen as

19:45

well. I think they made the Watchmen movie when Zack

19:48

Snyder made it. Yeah, it was like, not

19:50

really my Watchmen, even though, you know, it's pretty faithful

19:52

adaptation in a lot of ways. Yeah,

19:56

but I liked how they were just sort of playing

19:59

him up and then occasionally. What was he singing about?

20:01

Was it Little Lulu? He was reading that

20:03

one, yeah. He was singing the song, I

20:05

thought that was quite funny. Also, I don't know if it's

20:07

been memed a whole lot, but I certainly have it in

20:09

my images folder. No,

20:11

no. Millhouse

20:13

holding up, watching Baby's V for

20:15

vacation. I don't know, I thought that

20:17

was funny. But what meme do you use that for?

20:19

Okay. It's not really a meme. It's

20:22

just a shot. Yeah, someone had screenshot it once. Okay.

20:24

That's pretty funny. I probably can use it as

20:26

a rejoin, as a witty bit

20:29

of banter. So this is another example, by the way,

20:31

of an episode post season 10 that has a classic

20:33

meme moment. Home and with the back fat. So it's

20:35

like, when you're trying to explain someone's

20:37

hiding something, you have it from the front and you

20:40

go home from behind. And that gets used so often.

20:43

I'm putting a list together guys, of classic

20:45

moments that get memed every single day in

20:47

the Simpsons groups that don't come in the

20:49

first, what you call the golden era. So

20:51

what you people the bitch, that the Simpsons

20:53

is no good post season 10. What

20:55

are you using screen caps post season 10? That's

20:57

my question. Sounds a little hypocritical.

21:00

Yeah, a little bit, a little bit, a

21:02

little bit. I thought they're sneaking some pretty

21:05

risque lines into the Simpsons recently. Tell me.

21:08

Well, we had the trace of horror, where he says,

21:10

I love watching you do other men, right? This

21:12

one here, they say, you're like a really big

21:15

black one. That's right. And you also saw the

21:17

hands. Yeah, yeah. And I was like, oh my.

21:22

What else did you enjoy? I, this

21:24

isn't a line. This isn't a visual gag. I

21:27

just liked the shot of her homage walking

21:29

hand in hand at the end through like

21:31

the park, whichever the Springfield statue is right.

21:34

On the bench is a poor man jeweler just

21:36

sitting there enjoying each other's company. In the background,

21:38

you see Flanders throwing the Frisbee. I think it's

21:40

Todd. Oh, you know, Rod is the oldest one,

21:42

throwing the Frisbee of Rod. It was

21:44

just a nice little moment of just Springfield in the evening. The

21:47

Springfield community. I was like, we don't get much of this

21:49

anymore. I'm seeing just them throwing the Frisbee. It's like, they

21:51

didn't need to put those in there in the background. We

21:53

just added that sense of community. I liked it. I

21:56

mean, I think something that appealed to a lot of

21:58

Simpsons fans in the early days. and

22:00

as you say the quote-unquote golden era is

22:02

that balance of as I mentioned before Sweetness

22:08

and cynicism or authenticity and cynicism. I

22:10

mean It's gonna the

22:12

show is gonna say the world kind of sucks

22:15

sometimes and occasionally the bad guys will win But

22:18

you know if you've got a good Support

22:20

network of family people you love friends all

22:22

that kind of business kind of helps

22:24

see you through And

22:26

the show will balance those two elements very very

22:29

well at its best radio bars a perfect example

22:31

Where everyone wanted to help little Timmy they found a butt

22:34

was screwing over like fuck back it So

22:37

good old-fashioned hold again and

22:39

when the balances off you can feel like you're

22:41

trying too hard to be something

22:44

you're not or You're steering

22:46

too hard into what you think we want and

22:48

now we've just got It's

22:51

too sweet. My teeth are rotting in my head Well, we're

22:53

just in an era of the Simpsons where it's very cynical

22:55

and everyone seems to be angry at each other or mean

22:57

to each Other like Lenny and Carl a perfect example. What's

22:59

happened to Lenny and Carl? Everyone's

23:01

mean but seeing this lovely just Set

23:04

up. Yeah, that's just the scene of Flannister the Frisbee

23:07

a poor man George is when saying anything to sit

23:09

there holding each other's hand. I thought this was nice

23:11

So when when was this when did this air this

23:13

is what doesn't a seven two thousand seven, okay? You're

23:16

still in in America at least

23:18

you're in the tail end of the

23:21

George W Bush era It's still it's

23:23

essentially post 9-11 America's kind of a

23:25

cynical place I mean, that's why it's

23:27

why Obama got elected in 2008 because

23:29

he brought us Well comedy

23:31

was just very cynical that well a family

23:33

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had a lot of people right in this week. I

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apologize to all the listeners slash viewers, whoever have you

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watching the show or listening to this show. I uploaded

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I uploaded Dando. He

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knew I was about to do it. So yeah, that look

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in your face. I'm going to see it coming a while.

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It's the oddball look. So I

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uploaded Treehouse of Horror 18 before I uploaded the

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Cagebird Sings episode with the, you know,

27:57

the Marge getting the bank robbery, right?

28:00

guest starring Steve Buscemi. So I've uploaded

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that one tonight as we're recording this.

28:04

So you got like a double whammy,

28:06

right? It's the first time it's ever happened, but

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it was nice to see so many people write in and go, um, excuse

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me, but I believe episode four is

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by the way, guys, that's a complete joke because I also

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guy. Just wondering, is that episode coming? Did you record it?

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Because I really like, I was like, you know what? It's

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29:00

question. You there eating the paste.

29:03

Trivia. Hit me with your first question. On

29:05

the cover of Born Again Robin. What

29:08

is Robin saying? I don't

29:10

know. Holy Trinity, Batman. Holy Trinity, Batman.

29:12

My first question for you is when

29:15

did Superman take over Gotham city? What

29:18

comic? Oh, World's Finest?

29:20

Yeah. 74. Why got

29:22

94? But you could be. No, no, I think you might be right. It

29:25

was a four, but I think you might be correct. I

29:28

think we're, I think we're doing a lot of trivia from

29:30

the comics. My next one's not. I

29:33

don't know why I've only got two. I'll find another one, but yeah.

29:35

I've got plenty. Well, actually I've got four. What's

29:38

the name of Supergirl's horse? Comet.

29:40

Comet. Yeah. Sasha teaches

29:42

which class at LA Body Works? You

29:45

Sasha? Yeah. No,

29:48

I don't. It's alliteration. TT.

29:51

Yeah, it is because. It's tummy tone. Tummy

29:53

tone. With that in mind, you

29:56

get Zen abs with who? A

29:58

Zach something. It's Zach G. I was gonna say Zach

30:00

G, I thought. It's a nice combination of Zach Pruitt

30:03

and Katie J. I was gonna say Zach P. It's

30:05

true, yeah. If you two wanna get

30:07

married, then they'd be nice. All

30:11

right, my next question for you is, I'll

30:13

go from the comic book store, a bit easier. Milo

30:15

covers comic book guy who's standing in the window with a

30:17

standee of who? Oh, it's Jabber the

30:19

Hutt. Jabber the Hutt, yes. While we're there, Milo's

30:23

girlfriend, Strawberry, her purse is a lunchbox,

30:26

who's on that lunchbox? Good

30:28

question. No, what is it? Melby

30:30

Stacy. Melby Stacy, a weird, you wouldn't

30:32

think Strawberry, the girlfriend

30:35

of Milo would have Melby Stacy on her. Unless

30:38

she's being ironic. Probably

30:40

so. I can't even tell. Let's get into our review

30:42

of Husbands and Knives, shall we? So the original air

30:44

date, November 18th, 2007, production

30:47

code JABF17, written by the

30:50

amazing, a legendary stupendous Matt

30:52

Salmon. Doesn't,

30:54

can do no wrong. Can do no wrong. I

30:57

think it's kind of appropriate. I

31:00

think there's a lot of JAB production codes. Gotta

31:02

have a JAB. Well,

31:04

you got JAB and you

31:06

got Jables as the guest star. Coincidence?

31:12

Probably. Written, but directed by

31:15

Nancy Cruz. So guest star in Jack Black

31:17

as Milo. And we also get Dan

31:19

Klaus as himself. Marisa Marsh was one of

31:21

the boyfriends, one of the trophy husbands. Marisa

31:23

just rocks up everywhere now. He's

31:26

the go-to guy. He's the man with the golden tonsils.

31:28

Why not take advantage? Yeah, Alan

31:30

Moore and Art Spiegelman. Yes,

31:32

apparently. So Sang Amelie is the

31:35

Korean singer doing the Tom

31:37

Jones songs, apparently. Interesting. So

31:39

the episode kicks off with, they're

31:42

in the comic book store and they're just perusing around and

31:44

I've just got, this was- By the way, did you mention

31:46

the cool, you've done the Chopper, okay? Oh, they're into the

31:48

Chopper because I had both of them, this one, didn't it?

31:50

Yeah, it's in the Chopper, okay? The pilgrims were not illegal

31:52

aliens. I'm just so used to them skipping it now. Yeah,

31:54

and the couch guy, two hands with five fingers instead of

31:56

four, open up a pop-up book to reveal the family, sitting

31:58

on the couch, pop-up books. that's

32:00

no excuse for us to skip it. No, not at all.

32:03

Yeah, so it kicks off within the comic book store and it

32:05

just took me back to, I'd go

32:07

to town, I'd say, mum, can we go to Card Mania?

32:09

Which would evolve into pop culture, where we both used to

32:11

work, right? Correct, yes. By the way, if

32:13

you like records, you see a bunch of records behind me here, pop culture

32:15

records, check them out. Great comic

32:18

book store, great record store in Geelong. So

32:20

much vinyl. But walking around Card Mania, it

32:23

was just a different vibe. It was just kids, it was

32:25

when the boom of Pokemon was on as well, the kids

32:27

like swapping their Pokemon cards but they have action figures as

32:29

well and I was like,

32:31

this is the only place that stucks this

32:33

stuff. It was just, it was my heaven,

32:35

Card Mania. I loved it. Well, yeah, for

32:37

me, it was, yeah, Minator in Melbourne, which

32:39

then opened in Geelong, but there was- Minator,

32:41

it was in Geelong? Yeah. Where? In Marable

32:43

Street. No shit, where? What's

32:46

the store? This is completely local but I

32:48

don't care. Between

32:50

Ryrie and Little Malibu. Where, how long ago

32:52

was this? Oh, God, this was in the

32:54

late 80s, early 90s. No shit, okay. Wow.

32:58

I remember my first time I went to Minator in Melbourne, I

33:00

was like entering a new world. Oh yeah, I just- Go

33:02

down those escalator. Well, they

33:05

had like three different locations and the first

33:07

one that I went to was in like

33:09

a little arcade near the Hoyt's Mid-City cinema.

33:12

I've never been to a Hoyt cinema in my life. Haven't you?

33:15

No. Well, you're letting the best things in life pass

33:17

you by. You know what they do? As a

33:19

collector, right? I'll collect shit, as you can see.

33:21

What? But Hoyt cinema always

33:23

have really good cinema cups when the films come out. It

33:25

seems like Hoyt cinema cinema are the ones that get the

33:28

really cool shit. I was very big on

33:30

Hoyt's back in the day, but to have left turn

33:32

into this little arcade,

33:36

they seem to have netting becoming books because

33:39

of when it's like,

33:41

wow. Like we say, it's just fantastic. When it's like everything

33:44

I want in one place. And it's like, you see

33:46

some of the stuff they stock and you think, surely

33:48

you don't ever expect to sell this stuff, but the

33:51

fact that you've just got it here is cool. Oh

33:53

yeah, absolutely. I'm gonna peruse

33:55

and then we're gonna purchase. Yeah, but peruse I

33:57

purchased. But looking through the racks

33:59

especially. I mean, that felt- The variety. It felt

34:01

incredibly old school as well. I mean, I think

34:04

a lot of shops these days, a lot of comic book shops, they

34:08

don't have that sort of array of like a big

34:10

wooden box or whatever, you just go, yeah, yeah, yeah,

34:12

yeah. And you're doing the bar thing, got it, got

34:14

it, got it. That's why like

34:16

we're old school vinyl stores. It's like,

34:18

they'll just go a section where it's like, you can

34:21

just flick through. Yeah. Fantastic. Not just the classics, yeah.

34:23

So, the bar's going through the comics, you think some

34:25

of them are lame. Then

34:27

it's either a character dies or it's

34:29

a various Robin. Or a variation thereof.

34:31

Yes. He finds the Wolverine with

34:33

the pop-out claws, which cuts Millhouse. And

34:35

speaking of Wolverine, seeing Wolverine everywhere with

34:37

Deadpool at the moment, I'm kind of sick of seeing Wolverine. Yeah.

34:40

Everyone's saying, there's going to be a big

34:42

hit. Going to save the American movie summer.

34:44

I'm like, you probably will, but- Inside out,

34:46

too's already done that. Yeah. Bad Boys Ride

34:50

or Die already did that, by the way. Talking

34:52

about Will Smith coming up soon on TV Launchpad. TV

34:54

Launchpad, we just did episode three of the Fresh Prince

34:56

of Bel-Air pilot. Basically, if you haven't heard yet, we

34:58

go back and review the pilot episodes of some of

35:00

our favourite shows. Some shows that we don't like as

35:03

well. You guys can write in, mailbagofwarfingadiscount.com.au, watch show you

35:05

like us to do the pilot of, but we did,

35:08

Bosebergers, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and then Fresh

35:10

Prince of Bel-Air, which I adored the pilot.

35:12

Indeed. But yeah, Deadpool and Wolverine, look, I'll

35:14

go see it, of course. Same

35:17

time, I don't know. All the marketing around it

35:19

is just like, I don't

35:21

know, you can- They're best pals. You can have your tongue

35:23

wedged too firmly in your cheek. Whoa,

35:26

the infamous Wolverine comic with pop-out

35:28

claws. Why was this

35:30

so controversial? Nice

35:36

work, Dr. Boo-Hoo. Your tears have

35:39

smudged Wolverine's iconic sideburns. Hence, you

35:41

must buy this comic. And

35:44

the cost of your innocent accident is $25,

35:46

please. But

35:49

that's the money Yaya Sofia gave

35:51

me for Greek Orthodox Easter. They

35:54

hate when they tell me things about themselves.

35:57

$25 for the comic, which is equivalent to about $40.

35:59

which is a lot for a kid, absolutely for a

36:01

comic. But what was the Radioactive Man

36:03

number one? It was about $100, I think, for an

36:06

episode, from season two. Sounds about right. Yeah, but you

36:08

gotta stop being mean. Why are you so

36:10

mean? Cause he's had a monopoly all this time. Where else are

36:12

you gonna go to? You gonna go to the, was

36:14

it the laundromat? Or the mattress store? Snooze

36:17

at 11, by the way, good name. Yes, and then

36:19

he sees Colesville, and he can't believe it. What's going

36:21

on here? And they mentioned here, it's like when Superman

36:24

took over Gotham City, I think it was, that was a

36:26

made up story Jimmy Olsen did when he was keeping the

36:28

head by Supergirl's horse Comet. And Bart's like, none

36:30

of this stuff really happened. And that's where the comic book guy goes, get

36:33

out of my store. So I feel like

36:35

that was a good preface. Something could have happened

36:38

with Marlowe saying something similar to

36:41

Annoy Bart, which makes Bart go back to the Andoids

36:43

dungeon. Yeah, and then everybody follows Bart. Radioactive Man, he's

36:45

like Radioactive Man, he's not the greatest hero of all

36:47

time. And then Bart goes, hang on a minute, you're

36:49

not my comic book guy, you know? So that, simple,

36:52

gotta fix it. Doesn't matter, doesn't matter. But

36:55

he kicks him out and then they get introduced to Marlowe and

36:58

he's got that, the goatee, the little shonen nol patch.

37:00

He's got a little soul patch? Yes, he's got, he

37:02

calls it comic bees. In Australia, we called it the

37:05

nol patch. Really? Yes, we showed it the nolzy. We

37:07

did. The nolzy, yes. Well, that's what it

37:09

is, the little shonen nol patch. And

37:11

the Japanese hard candy. Hey,

37:13

what up you guys? How go, go, goes

37:16

it? My name's Milo and

37:18

this is Coolsville. Now listen, before

37:20

everyone chills with some sweet comic

37:22

bees, everyone gets a free piece

37:24

of Japanese hard candy. One

37:26

for you, short hidden back, down low, go

37:29

long. I got prawn. Mm,

37:33

I got miso. I

37:37

got dolphin. Now

37:40

I hope you all like Korean pop

37:42

covers of Tom Jones songs, cause they're

37:44

about to be blasted. I can

37:47

actually buy into this, this will actually happen. It's

38:00

incredibly pandering, but at the same time, this is

38:02

also the kind of thing that you want from

38:05

a place like this. It's like, hey,

38:08

maybe try this French comic book, try

38:10

this Japanese candy. Have you heard this

38:12

career? There's a terrific sandwich shop down

38:14

in Torquay called Mortadelli. They do

38:16

fantastic sandwiches. That's a great name. It's really good.

38:19

Not quite as good as Aswok, but. No, but

38:21

still pretty good. But

38:23

every time I go there, they've got this

38:25

incredible playlist of Italian pop songs or something

38:27

like that. Just feel automatically 100% cooler. Feel

38:31

like you're in Italy. Oh yeah. But also in like

38:33

the coolest part of Italy. And

38:35

I've said to them, like, hey, is this a

38:37

playlist? Is this on Spotify or something? The

38:40

boss made it and. I made the playlist. Yeah, the boss made

38:42

the songs. I was like, shit. No, no, the boss made this

38:44

playlist. And I'm like, is there any chance of getting a link

38:46

to that? Oh no. Oh no. Oh

38:49

really? You can only hear it when you go. I'm

38:51

not gonna tell you. Like, we're giving away our secrets.

38:53

It's like 11 herbs and spices. It's like, I

38:56

am angry, but at the same time

38:58

I respect it. Yeah. I'd

39:00

like to have this playing all the time at my place.

39:02

So it would feel kind of cool. But

39:05

no, you guard your secrets. You guard your secret

39:07

sauce. You're in the 11 herbs and spices. You're

39:09

right. When they first said no, did

39:11

you first think, oh, they're just joking. And

39:13

then went, oh, are you serious? Yeah. I

39:16

mean, they weren't like, no, you don't

39:18

get none of this. It was my own.

39:20

And he keeps it to himself. I'm like,

39:23

gotta respect the game. But

39:26

Tom Jones, K-pop covers. Yeah.

39:31

Sorry, but honestly though, if you

39:33

own the store like this, wouldn't

39:35

that be your aim to be like, this is cool,

39:37

but hey, you might want to check this out. Well,

39:39

that's what I liked about them. We've talked about this,

39:41

I think just recently, how- Empire Records. Yeah. How

39:44

they just let people just put whatever records they

39:46

want on in the store. And I was like,

39:48

I miss that. Where like, you go to a

39:50

video store and they'd put on like a movie

39:52

that like they recommend you should check out this

39:54

one. Or it was like the workers' recommendations. Yeah.

39:57

Well, they still have that at JB to some degree. They've

39:59

been like- They're phasing it out though. We recommend

40:01

so and so. It's like, I like that. I like

40:03

to have that. So

40:05

Jamie recommends this. I'm like, I trust Jamie.

40:08

Not Steve, Jamie. The hell with

40:10

Steve. But he covers when we put guys standing in

40:12

the window. Sad, he covers him with the Jebel the

40:14

Hutt, the cardboard cutout. He's playing Guitar Hero, which was

40:16

huge at the time. I actually passed the Guitar Hero

40:18

out for Elliott about three weeks ago. Loved

40:20

it, but loved watching me play it because it's

40:22

still a little bit too hard for him to understand the whole strumming

40:25

at the right time. But the idea of playing the guitar, he's starting

40:27

to sort of appreciate it. It was a big deal back in the

40:29

day. It was the perfect game to have at a party. Oh yeah.

40:31

When we're like 17, 18, you had to have a Guitar Hero set

40:33

up somewhere in the room. And there's always that one ticket though that

40:35

thought he was really good. Oh yeah. And like,

40:37

he was really good, but it's like,

40:40

it's a video game, man. It's like karaoke. You don't,

40:42

yeah. I mean, occasionally you want someone who will bust

40:44

out some real good pipes. Mostly it's just like, we're

40:46

all just yelling. We're all just, we're all shit, yeah.

40:48

But Lisa finds a Tintin comics, which are around in

40:51

Springfield. She rips it, because I don't worry. These are

40:53

made to be enjoyed. And I thought, that's what you

40:55

want. Where it's like, you

40:57

know, when you have, there's mentioned here,

40:59

the not hoarded and solvent divorced. And I thought, you know

41:01

what? Since having kids, I've realized, she can just come out

41:03

of packets. No, I do like no dirty videos with the

41:06

kids. Back in the day, be like, keep them in the

41:08

box. Make sure they don't get damaged. Now I'm like, how

41:10

do you guys, can I open this? I'm like, why not?

41:12

Oh yeah. Who cares? Something

41:15

read, something great that I read the other day. So

41:17

something I am aiming to live by. Yeah. Someone

41:20

said, oh, oh, you've getting this high end

41:22

coffee. It must be for special occasions. I said, and

41:24

I drink this all the time. Being alive is as

41:26

special an occasion as it gets. Remember

41:29

that. Being alive is as special an

41:31

occasion as it gets. Every day, appreciate

41:33

it. Every day, appreciate it. All

41:35

right, I get it. You're cool.

41:37

You're not mainstream. You wear a

41:39

pork pie hat. Mmm,

41:41

pork pie. I

41:44

thought the cutaway here was so family guy and bizarre.

41:46

Because look at him there with his pork pie hat

41:48

and just customer home and going, mmm, pork pie. Yeah,

41:50

that was. I was like, what the hell? That

41:53

was so family guy. That was very much so.

41:55

I was like, wait a minute. So we're here

41:57

now, but we're not. We're going back. But how did Homer

41:59

know? Yeah, I don't know, so bizarre. But

42:01

he questions his superhero. What you need was

42:03

to hear sort of like a faint echo

42:06

of, oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, oh

42:08

boy, oh boy. Anything, yeah. Anything food related

42:10

to Homer's gonna pick on Bond by his

42:12

magical hunger sonar. I don't know. Questions

42:14

his superhero knowledge, Thung versus Mulch, who would win. But

42:16

then he says the part, who do you think? He's

42:19

like, oh my God, you can't believe I

42:21

think? Oh my God. Coolsville artists

42:23

signing now. Marge drops

42:25

them off, enjoy your funny books. This is where the Marge

42:27

story starts essentially because she sees the Wonder Woman standee. This

42:30

is another gripe I've had. Marge has never

42:32

changed body shape for the entire series. She's

42:34

always been a MILF. She's been sexy, everyone's

42:36

always gone, Marge is sexy, right? Now

42:39

she's apparently overweight and needs to lose weight. What

42:42

are we doing here? Yeah, I'm not down with this

42:44

body shaming. No, it felt really odd. Like

42:46

Marge is not fat. No. At

42:49

all, she's really skinny. Yeah,

42:51

and I don't think she would

42:53

start having body image problems based

42:55

on one standee. I

42:59

think there should be messages all throughout

43:01

Springfield that are sort of giving her

43:03

an impression. Like, I don't

43:05

look like this. Because then the boys are like calling her

43:07

fat as well. And I'm like, what do you mean? Yeah,

43:10

that whole thing with the three bullies was just. They

43:14

don't know what to do with these bullies anymore. They

43:16

don't. They've emasculated them to where

43:18

the kids aren't really necessarily scared of them anymore.

43:20

No, it's more just to invite. It's in fighting

43:22

goofballs now. It's just, yeah. Lenny and Carl, they

43:25

don't seem to know who they are anymore. The

43:27

three bullies, they don't know what they're doing

43:29

with them anymore. It's bizarre. Odd.

43:32

Yeah, and whenever I see them now on the screen, I go,

43:34

oh, remember last, was it last week I talked about, Willie, he'll

43:36

buy you drinks, but you'll make you share. These

43:39

guys aren't funny. No, I mean, are you trying to make

43:41

them like Stadler and Waldorf or something from the Muppet Show?

43:45

Who were good. They were good. I finally finished the

43:47

Jim Henson documentary. Oh yeah, what did you think? I

43:49

did not expect the chapter to be Jim Henson Womanizer.

43:54

So he gets divorced in his late 40s. He's like, he

43:56

didn't want a long-term relationship. He just liked dating. I was

43:58

like, go to Jim. Wow,

44:00

that's a good euphemism, Jim was getting

44:02

busy. Yeah, but basically, so Marge here,

44:04

she's now body conscious, Kearney mocks her,

44:06

and then Dolph mocks his mum, calls

44:08

her fat. Just a whole bunch of

44:10

fat, Jamie. Man, Marge thinks, she still

44:12

looks over at the comic book guy's

44:14

store, which is going out of business.

44:17

That's the last we see of it. And then

44:19

lastly, he's even mentioned, and she envisions shapes. Where

44:21

she's getting the money for shapes, I'm not too

44:24

sure. That's a really good point. Yeah, Lisa, you

44:26

can't believe that all these artists are here though.

44:29

She says, I think it was to Dan, I had to

44:31

identify with Ghost World, the girls in Ghost World. He's like,

44:33

I don't care. Do you know anyone who works at Batman?

44:35

I want to draw Batman. And these

44:37

three appearances felt like, as

44:39

a kid watching this, I wouldn't have any clue who they

44:41

are. This was, we like these guys, we're gonna get them

44:43

onto the show. Yeah, it felt very- Remember they had the

44:45

authors on? Yeah, it felt very much like a schedule, and

44:47

he was like, we can

44:50

finally get all three of them at once. Yeah.

44:52

So let's do it. It also felt like a

44:54

decade and a half too late. For, I mean,

44:56

because I think the glory days of

44:59

Arts Biggs' Mouse, I've forgotten when Ghost

45:01

World came out, but that felt like late

45:05

90s, maybe early 2000s. And Alan

45:07

Moore, I mean, Alan Moore's an absolute legend in

45:09

the comics game. And, you know,

45:11

his big, well, his big Watchmen

45:14

book was probably late 80s as

45:16

well. Okay. I mean, all

45:18

these names are still recognisable among those in the

45:20

know, if you know you know, but it also

45:22

felt like, yeah,

45:25

just a little too, little too late. Yeah.

45:28

I mean, it's a fine guest appearance. Oh yeah,

45:30

they're good. Yeah, they're good appearances. Yeah, but at

45:32

the same time, just yesterday's news in some ways.

45:34

But the thing is, that's it, basically. So

45:36

Comic Book Guy enters. Attention,

45:38

Comic Book aficionados. This man

45:40

is not one of us.

45:43

He has a girlfriend. Oh!

45:46

My name's Strawberry. My purse is a

45:48

lunchbox. Now listen up,

45:50

my wee word little fan boys.

45:52

I have the most wonderful news.

45:55

My store now sells ninja

45:57

weapons. Whoa, you would

45:59

see. weapons of the Orient to

46:01

children? That is weak. Face

46:04

the facts has been this man is the

46:06

comic book guy our town deserves. Very

46:08

well. I guess the

46:11

mature thing to do

46:13

is HUYAH! You

46:16

do see a lot of stores selling random shit like

46:18

that they try and keep up with me. They

46:21

mock him so he destroys everything and the

46:23

League of Extraordinary Freelancers activate and how

46:25

do you like this punchline they beat him up and

46:27

that's it. That's the end of the comic book story

46:29

in this whole episode. I could not believe my eyes.

46:31

I kept sitting there watching and going when

46:34

are we going back to the story again?

46:36

I thought I'm like that's the poster of

46:38

like that's the marketing for the episode was

46:40

Milo Koolsville that's how it was marketed on

46:42

TV. That's right. Why are we going to another

46:44

Marge Homer story? I mean this Marge story could have

46:47

been his own episode. I think so yeah. What a

46:49

weird setup for

46:51

a Marge opening a gym. She

46:54

gets my understanding and goes oh I'm fat I need to start

46:56

a gym now. It feels

46:58

really odd. I mean I

47:00

hate to keep using the phrase a bunch of ideas that were sort

47:02

of lying around on the floor. That's why they don't go to you

47:05

because they couldn't actually intertwine them. That is when here's one

47:07

episode and here's the next one. It was like two episodes

47:10

just immigrated together. It was weird.

47:12

Not a fan at all. Marge

47:14

then arrives at LA Body Works. She's shown

47:16

the various classes including Mummy and Me kickboxing

47:18

and then the treadmill is going to get

47:20

an okay go reference here which was kind

47:22

of time because that was 2006. My kids

47:24

love that theme song. I always

47:26

really appreciate that those guys went the extra yard to

47:28

make a really cool film clip. Oh absolutely. Because film

47:30

clips aren't really a thing anymore I don't think. Does

47:32

anyone watch film clips? I don't think so no. Because

47:34

when we were kids growing up in the 90s we

47:36

had video hits and rage and you watched the film

47:38

clips that was the only way to sort of get

47:40

access to the song unless you heard it on the radio or you

47:43

purchased it right. I mean now I guess you would make

47:46

it for TikTok. Yeah well you

47:48

still put on YouTube. I'm assuming there's still

47:50

videos out there. I imagine you've got your

47:52

artist name Vivo. I don't know if that's

47:54

still a thing or whatever. But people aren't,

47:56

it's not put in front of the same eyeballs. Basically when we were growing up

47:59

was here's the top 10. and watch the same songs and

48:01

it's like the following week. It's now number three and

48:03

it's back to number two and now it's back to

48:05

number seven. But so, yeah, so we

48:07

get to the Ok go. Then Marge

48:09

is being washed in the shower by Sideshow

48:11

Melon. Various people thought, hang on, what's the

48:13

gag here? Showers aren't public at gyms? No,

48:15

but see, it's something

48:18

they didn't really flesh out all that well.

48:20

The fact that a gym like LA Body

48:22

Works is more performative than it is actual

48:24

pumping iron. It's not enough

48:26

to actually put in the hours and do

48:28

and sweat up a storm. People have to see you doing

48:30

it and you have to look glamorous doing it and that

48:32

would extend the showers as well. It's like, well, you're constantly

48:34

on show. It's like, well, I've had a hard workout and

48:36

now it's time to clean myself off. Might as well do

48:38

it where people can see it. They

48:40

didn't explain it all that well. I mean, it's not

48:43

the sound of a bad episode, but the sound of

48:45

an episode that could be better when you're filling in

48:47

the blanks for it or you're, stop

48:49

making excuses for it. That's what I'm doing.

48:51

I made a mistake, I apologize listeners. This

48:54

is where she looks over the road because she's disappointed by

48:56

LA Body Works. She feels like she can't go to the

48:58

gym. That's when she envisioned shapes because now Comic Book guys

49:00

saw it as going out of business. Which

49:04

I thought was really, I saw that and I

49:06

went, oh, that's sad. I hope that's not canon.

49:08

I'm glad the Android dungeon is still around because

49:10

that's such a core part of the show's. Identity.

49:13

Identity, yeah. Like that's the Bart Millhouse. That's

49:15

where the kids hang out. That's their thing.

49:18

And Coolsville seems like a really

49:20

cool place at first, but I'm thinking Android's

49:22

dungeon just has that history. Yeah, and I

49:24

think you'll find that. It's dirty, it's grimy,

49:26

the owners mean. That's what a comic book

49:28

store felt like. Yeah, and there are a

49:30

lot of places like that that will continually

49:33

last because they keep their overheads low or

49:35

they overcharge or whatever. And someone who's trying

49:37

to cash in on the latest trend will

49:39

invariably over capitalise. Move on. And

49:41

there's like, ah, no, we can't

49:43

afford to do this anymore and blah, blah, blah.

49:45

Yeah. But the life is staying for life. But

49:47

she envisioned shapes here, no men, no cell phones,

49:50

no mirrors, no shame. And Homer questions,

49:52

why would women want to go to a gym without

49:54

men judging them and whatnot? Looks outside, sees the line,

49:56

we're gonna be rich, rich I tell ya. We

49:59

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now been booked out for months, Lisa's like the little secretary

52:04

there at the desk, so she says you can have to

52:06

open up a second store, which she does at Krusty Burger.

52:09

Ha ha ha ha ha ha! I

52:11

can't believe the labor board is shutting

52:13

me down! You lock your workers in

52:16

at night. It's so

52:18

they can't tell their stories!

52:20

Mr Krusty came to my village, he

52:23

said he would marry me! No ring!

52:25

Just fill apple pies all day! Marge

52:28

is now a huge success, she's on the Opal

52:30

show, my boyfriend thinks you too. And

52:33

then she asks about popping the question, everyone

52:35

gets cuckoo class! So

52:37

that was a thing for a while, because Oprah wasn't married

52:40

or something. Well she had the long term partner in Steadman.

52:42

Yes. AKA straight man.

52:44

Yes. So it's like, okay.

52:49

But yeah, I like the lady swapping her bag for a clock.

52:51

Baby, yes, hey, finally a quick clock. Now

52:53

Palm Springs Field Resort for the business trip, Homer steals

52:55

the remote, because no one's ever trusted him with the

52:57

remote before, but that's why, because he steals it. Now

52:59

Homer knows why pimps are so happy, that was a

53:01

funny line. And the other husbands, they now,

53:04

they introduce him to the life of wife support. And

53:06

he realizes here, oh shit, she's going to be trading

53:08

up soon, because they weren't the first husbands, they were

53:10

the second husbands. We do find out a little bit

53:12

later though, that one of them is still a first

53:14

husband. But he just gave himself the personal upgrade. He

53:17

fixed himself, yeah. I like the

53:19

using car words. You sure you're talking about cars? Because he's

53:21

using a lot of words. That's a car word. Homer

53:25

says, don't worry, I'm the anchor that weighs her down. And

53:28

you know, when she seems like happy and interested in talking about

53:30

her day, she seems happy and full of life, that's when you

53:32

know she's going to be moving on. So Homer goes

53:34

in there, and of course, She does all those

53:36

things. All those things. And he starts crying and

53:39

stealing at the same time. The

53:41

business function, and Homer thinks, he

53:43

thinks they're talking about dumping Homer, but they're talking about getting a

53:45

new handbag. That's where they mentioned the whole really big black one.

53:47

The big black one, and the hand gesture. And the hand

53:49

gesture, yeah. So she goes to the successful ladies room.

53:52

This is where Homer seeks some advice from

53:54

a man who was actually a first husband, not a second

53:56

husband. He explains, this is how you get into shape. Exercise?

54:00

eat well and dress nice. He's

54:02

like, hmm, stomach stapled. I

54:06

was at the plastic surgeon where they're correcting

54:08

God's mistakes. That's the little sub headline there. And the

54:11

doc says, I can do it today. I

54:13

didn't get the whole home and knocking himself out by reading the bill. What

54:16

was happening? Was it they were trying to

54:18

say, you thought he was going to be passing it because it was

54:20

so expensive, but it was actually really cheap and he still knocked himself

54:22

out. It's not a very good joke.

54:24

No, not really. I

54:27

love that you at the table read that happens and you just sit

54:29

there going, it's not a very good joke. I

54:33

wonder if you were at a Simpsons table read, whether

54:35

you would feel the need to have to laugh at

54:37

things you didn't necessarily find all that funny. Do you

54:39

think you could be honest? Have you went to a

54:41

Simpsons table read now? Do you think

54:44

you'd be- Are you talking about me or? Like you

54:46

and I get invited to a table read in six

54:48

months, right? We go there. Do you feel like you

54:50

would be over enthusiastic and feel like, oh yeah, that

54:52

was really, really good. Or do you think you'd be

54:54

brutally honest? I like to think I would be

54:56

someone, I wouldn't be brutally honest, but I'm like, may

54:59

I suggest this? No, you may not. Get

55:02

out of our writer's room. You're a guest here,

55:04

sir. But Homer's now thinner. Says

55:06

he underwent surgery to please Marge. You'd get your

55:08

hot dog plumped. I thought, oh shit. Oh yeah,

55:11

that's the couple. Like, saucy. Where

55:13

do I get that? Where do I get that?

55:16

But no, he's got his stomach stapled so he's

55:18

blending up food. The gag at

55:20

the end of this, again, it's like I'm

55:22

waiting for a punchline and all you had was

55:24

all food tastes like bath now. Yes.

55:29

You didn't find a joke there though. We

55:33

knew that was gonna be the result, but that's not

55:35

a joke. Yeah, I mean, I would have preferred blending

55:38

the pizza into a paste or whatever. Like,

55:40

pouring into a fancy wine glass or something.

55:43

Yeah. Do it in a sophisticated manner. Or putting

55:45

it into a teacup and having the little pinky on my... Yeah,

55:48

like, how do you eat all the foods

55:50

that you like now, dad? Loopholes. And

55:53

then blends it up and drinks it. Yeah, it's like something like

55:55

that, it tastes like bath now. No.

55:58

What? No. He didn't think of

56:00

any of them there, it's nothing. Margin enters the bedroom. Oh,

56:03

you remembered, I like romance. And he

56:05

takes off his robe. And this

56:07

is where we get the, I say iconic. I

56:09

think in the meme group, this is a very,

56:11

very, very popular screen cap of

56:14

the skin folded at the back. And then when she

56:16

goes to give him a cuddle, he's moved around to

56:18

the front, yes. She's gonna fold that old sweaty blanket

56:20

and put it in the closet. Homer

56:23

returns to the doctor. He's like, do you want me to

56:25

unstable you? The big staple. And

56:28

he wants every other surgery that

56:30

you can offer so that he can look good. But

56:32

please make sure it's an aortic valve replacement

56:35

on the, on the insurance. It tells

56:38

him to count backwards from 10, fine. I'm

56:40

drunk, goes to sleep, wakes up. Now we

56:42

don't realize this is all a dream. When he rocked up,

56:45

I'm glad that was a dream because if he

56:48

had to change his body that much, I would

56:50

have gone, oh, this is a, this is really,

56:52

really family guy wacky now. Yeah. How

56:54

would you have felt if it would have been made

56:57

a little more obvious that it was a dream? I

57:01

think I liked the reveal of it being the dream. It's

57:03

just, we didn't get an ending though. No, that

57:06

was the problem. Because I didn't mind being, it

57:08

was more of a relief because I saw it sounds like, oh,

57:10

this is, I was gonna start running. This is ridiculous. And then

57:12

I realized the dream. I thought, okay, well, that's, that's

57:15

a relief, but still you didn't

57:17

give us an out here. There's no ending. I mean,

57:19

I would have liked it if he's, yeah. Oh, we're

57:21

undoing everything. It's like, can I keep the hair? Like,

57:23

I'm just like, no, and you rip it off. And

57:25

that's the, I mean, I know that it's no to

57:27

Dame, right? Sometimes I'm saying not to Dame. Well,

57:29

here's the thing. I think the

57:32

American college is Notre Dame. Okay.

57:34

And the church in Paris is not to Dame. Okay,

57:37

cause I've always said the hunchback of Notre Dame. That's what

57:39

I've always said. And you're correct to do

57:41

so. Okay, so I get they wanted to

57:43

do the parody of the hunchback of Notre Dame,

57:46

right? But I don't think this

57:48

episode needed it. You could have had Marge just

57:50

see Homer's like, you know, upcoming surgery

57:52

or something going, Homer, what is this? He goes, I'm

57:54

trying to make myself look good. Homer, you don't need

57:56

to do all that stuff. You know, you

57:58

didn't need to have all this rent. and I'm shit. Cause

58:01

it just took up two minutes of an episode, took up two

58:03

minutes of the episode where you could have explained an ending for

58:05

us. That's right. I agree

58:07

with you. Cause Marge in

58:09

the dream she gets rewarded the $100 gift card

58:11

for sweat pants, et cetera. Homer arrives looking horrific.

58:14

Quimby says, get your pitchforks, grab his Marge, climb

58:16

his Notre Dame, Springfield. He

58:19

says, don't make me cry. I can't remember when my tear

58:21

ducts are anymore. She says, I'm getting myself a new husband.

58:23

I'm upgrading. He, and she pushes him off the edge and

58:25

he wakes up. I thought, oh, okay. And

58:27

then Marge says, she made the doctor turn him

58:29

to normal. The nurse is kissing her cross as

58:50

a judge. And I'm actually on the

58:52

floor and, I think she's carrying the Lockwood

59:09

placements and now Last Year, it

59:11

is, I mean, it

59:15

is a cultural march. I'm always lucky to

59:17

have you Said that you years really enjoyed that first act.

59:19

It was a lot of fun. Plus, if

59:22

Milo has to sell up or

59:24

sell out or whatever to Comic

59:26

Book Guy, I think you've got

59:28

some pretty fertile material for Comic

59:30

Book Guy trying to keep Coolsville

59:32

Coolsville, but it gradually over the course

59:34

of a few episodes just becomes the Android's dungeon again.

59:36

Yeah, I think it'd be a nice visual gag. I

59:38

mean, I don't think it'd be too complicated or

59:40

expensive to do. I think Classic Simpsons, they would have

59:43

just somehow turned it back into the Android's dungeon again,

59:45

but just bigger, maybe. Yeah, I think that's not a

59:47

bad idea. I was just flabbergasted

59:51

that we didn't get an end to this. But anyway, overall,

59:54

I enjoyed the episode, right? There was

59:56

things you could have fixed, but to

59:58

not have an ending, just. is

1:00:00

a real black cloud for me. Yeah, look, I'm

1:00:02

occasionally fine with episodes that you can rework or

1:00:04

that while you're watching, well, I would do this,

1:00:06

I would do that. Sometimes they're fun. They're a

1:00:08

good thought experiment to do. I mean, I wasn't

1:00:10

watching this going, I feel completely insulted. I

1:00:13

kind of did when I read afterwards that

1:00:16

Colesville isn't canon and is never referenced again.

1:00:18

I thought, hang on, that's

1:00:20

all you did with Jack fucking Black? One

1:00:23

of the biggest, like Jack Black? You had fucking Jack

1:00:25

Black there. I feel like if you said to Jack

1:00:27

Black, hey, do you want to be your recurring character

1:00:29

as Milo the Coolsville owner, he'd

1:00:31

say sure. Absolutely. Bovid.

1:00:36

What do we learn, bomber? But what'd you

1:00:38

learn from the episode, Mr. Davis? Do not get Alan Moore

1:00:40

to sign your copy of Watchmen Babies. No, do not do

1:00:43

that. I learnt that hot dog ain't a

1:00:45

good hot dog until it's been plumped. Get

1:00:48

that extra meat. It's time

1:00:51

for some Guy Davis New Name Championship.

1:00:53

From this day forward, your name shall

1:00:55

be. But before we do

1:00:57

that, we need to edit the current leaderboard,

1:00:59

which stands as this. In third position, Kyle

1:01:01

Muldoon, clever Kyle, five points. In second position,

1:01:03

Jared Hornby on six points. And

1:01:05

in first position is a tie, Adam Woolhouse.

1:01:08

And Phillip J. Hawkins, both on seven

1:01:10

points. Take it away this week. The

1:01:12

J is back. Okay, one point goes

1:01:14

to Anytime Fatness. Ooh, that

1:01:17

puts Adam Woolhouse in the lead on

1:01:19

eight points as we currently stand. Holy

1:01:21

moly. Holy moly indeed. Two

1:01:23

points goes to Jim and Comic. Clever

1:01:26

Kyle is now on seven points. He's now tied

1:01:28

with Phillip J. Hawkins. Phil Hawkins now in second

1:01:31

position. Phil Hawkins and Clever Kyle

1:01:33

now tied in second position on seven points. All

1:01:35

right, and who gets the three? Let's see what

1:01:37

happens when we give three points to Jim Hunkies.

1:01:39

Jim Hunkies. Jared

1:01:42

Hornby has gone all the way to the top of

1:01:44

the leaderboard now with his three points. So

1:01:46

he was second on six. He's now got the

1:01:48

three point. He's now on nine. So now outright

1:01:51

first position, Jared Hornby. On nine points. In

1:01:54

second position, we have Adam Woolhouse on

1:01:56

eight points and a tie for third

1:01:58

position now is Clever Kyle. and Phil

1:02:00

Hawkins on seven points. Shake

1:02:03

it up, shake it up, shake it up. All

1:02:08

right, Guy Davis New Name Championship. Remember, we wanna be a

1:02:10

part of that guys. You're gonna be a supporter of ours

1:02:12

on Patreon and to the Patreon group, I'm gonna be putting

1:02:14

a leaderboard, I've got a leaderboard in the Discord channel as

1:02:17

well. I wanna keep up to date with that. But yes,

1:02:19

Jared Holme is currently leading on nine points. Still early in

1:02:21

the season, so there's plenty of more points to be won.

1:02:23

Indeed, indeed. But so keep those new names again.

1:02:25

Yes, all right, next episode of our four finger

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discount season 19, we shall be reviewing the episode

1:02:30

funeral for a fiend. I'm pretty sure this is

1:02:32

a Sajo Bob one. Okay, I'm happy with that.

1:02:34

And if I remember correctly, I think he has

1:02:37

his family and I think he

1:02:39

does a face off kind of like parody here

1:02:41

where he stops faces, I think. Could be a

1:02:44

spoiler alert. I seem to remember watching

1:02:46

this one on TV. I don't remember, I remember

1:02:48

this one being promoted. I don't,

1:02:50

like I'm talking about the episode we just reviewed. So

1:02:52

the husbands and knives. I remember the promotion for Coolsville

1:02:54

being a thing and Jack Black being in The Simpsons.

1:02:56

I'd forgotten the fact that it wasn't canon anymore. So

1:02:59

I can't remember my reaction to that, but I do

1:03:01

remember Sajo Bob. Remember Sajo Bob's on The Simpsons. It's

1:03:03

always a big deal. They market the shit out of

1:03:05

it. So I do remember this being a big deal.

1:03:07

So funeral for a fiend, if I'm correct, if it's

1:03:09

that episode, will be the next episode of four finger

1:03:12

discount and I will be uploading them in order. Do

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