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5531 WHAT IS VALUE?

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5531 WHAT IS VALUE?

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Good morning, everybody. Hope you're doing well, Stephen Molyneux.

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9th of June, 2024, 11 a.m. and some slight

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little bit of change. Welcome

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to all of our fans at the Alphabet

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agencies. We're just here to

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talk about philosophy, as it says, Oh

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my cap, I was hoping for a battle of wits, but you

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appear to be unarmed. Unarmed!

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private call ins now. You can go to

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free domain.com/call request. All of

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that kind of good

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stuff and the testimonials are up at

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various places and people are finding it

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wonderfully helpful. And I got to tell you, it's a

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very interesting thing to talk to people privately. You

0:52

know, not having to worry about names, places, not

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having to worry about personal stories of

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mine. It

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is very, very nice. Very,

1:03

very nice. Good

1:05

morning, Taylor. Good

1:08

morning, Taylor. Good morning. Should we do a

1:11

I watch locals, James. Buzz

1:14

Omega, Joe. Do not panic.

1:16

Black hand. Cat

1:19

us. Always nice to see you, my friend. Thank

1:21

you for all of your support of the show. And

1:23

I am all ears. Questions, comments,

1:26

issues, issues, challenges. Hello.

1:30

So somebody, Captain

1:33

Lissander. Oh, I assume that's

1:35

Lissander Spooner and

1:38

his brother. Lissander Sporker. Hello. Had

1:40

a thought last night that I think would make a good

1:43

show topic. The West has entertained feminism for about

1:45

50 years now. 50 years is about two generations.

1:48

One of the cast of feminism is women working full

1:50

time and children being relegated to daycare. The

1:55

people now active in the dating market are significantly

1:57

more likely to have a daycare childhood than any

1:59

previous generation. What are your thoughts on this connection? My

2:02

understanding is people who spend a significant

2:04

amount of their early childhood and daycare

2:06

often develop abandonment coping mechanisms. Some

2:11

examples are emotional self-sufficiency, difficulty trusting

2:13

others, strong independence, struggle with intimacy,

2:15

fear of rejection. Do

2:19

you think the above behavior patterns are connected

2:21

to the modern independent women phenomenon? How

2:23

would a daycare childhood impact the modern dating culture

2:25

and division between the sexes? That

2:29

is a great question, I appreciate that. For

2:32

more on this, I

2:35

refer you to my novel, The

2:37

Present. It's a great, great

2:39

book. A very

2:42

deep book, I might add as well, about

2:45

where things are in the modern world and where

2:47

they're heading. You can

2:49

get it for free at freedemand.com/books. The

2:58

daycare kids have

3:00

as their foundational experience

3:04

dread. For the most part, dread.

3:08

They feel unsupported, they're tossed to the

3:11

winds, they don't have primary pair bonding.

3:13

So moral courage has a lot to do

3:15

with primary pair bonding. I remember when I

3:18

was in theater school, there was a

3:20

guy there who was studying to be a director

3:22

and he said, at

3:24

one point, I honestly can't remember the context, it's

3:26

been almost 40 but he

3:28

said, you

3:30

know, my parents, you know, I'm 18 years old and

3:32

they say, you know, man, go out into the world

3:36

and do your thing and take

3:38

your shot and make your mark.

3:41

No matter what happens, you always have a

3:43

bed to sleep in and a roof over

3:45

your head. You are always welcome back here.

3:47

We will always support you.

3:53

Kind of a chilling silence rippled around

3:55

the room. Because

3:59

that's. unusual, and

4:02

a little sad. You

4:08

have to look at the wiring of

4:10

humanity and figure out what we were

4:12

evolved for and what we

4:14

have become. And

4:21

we were wired for a

4:24

deep closeness and knowledge transfer

4:27

from our parents, a deep closeness and

4:29

a moral transfer from our parents. We

4:32

spent our days with our parents, we went

4:34

hunting with our parents, we learned to take

4:36

care of children with our parents, we gathered

4:39

fruits and nuts and berries with our

4:41

parents – thank you Adam – and

4:47

we had a deep knowledge transfer from

4:50

our parents. How to farm,

4:52

how to hunt, how to gather, how to

4:54

raise a barn, how to take care of

4:56

livestock, like all of these things. So

5:11

one of the questions I've been asking people lately

5:15

on the call-in shows is

5:20

– and

5:22

you guys can tell me this. Good

5:24

morning. What

5:28

wisdom did your parents give to you

5:32

that you still use to this day?

5:34

So as a teenager, what

5:37

wisdom did your parents give to you that

5:39

you still use

5:42

to this day? It's

5:46

a big question. It's

5:49

a big question. I remember going to my mother.

5:52

I remember having a temper when I was in my

5:54

early teens and I had a little race track with

5:56

the little electric cars race around in the grooves. I

5:58

got mad because they were so mad. They wouldn't go

6:00

together and I just twisted and broke them and I was

6:02

like, well, that's not right. That's

6:05

not right. And I remember going to my mother, my mother of

6:07

all people, but I'm like, how do I handle my temper? And

6:09

she just gave me nothing. Nothing. Like

6:11

this, I shouldn't be breaking my things. That's not right. So

6:17

I had to do the long, slow, painful truck

6:20

across the desert of human indifference to try and

6:22

get to some oasis of wisdom. I

6:24

had to invent the entire wheel and

6:27

the axle and the tires and the

6:30

steering mechanism all by myself. Now that's

6:32

given a lot of originality and I think that's

6:34

given a lot of pluses, but I

6:36

rather wouldn't have. I would rather not have had to

6:38

do that. I would

6:40

rather not have had to do that. So

6:46

what do we got here? Literally

6:49

nothing. Explicitly

6:51

given wisdom. Yeah. No, not

6:53

counterexample. Nothing comes to mind. It

6:55

doesn't cost anything to be nice. That's

7:00

one of the biggest lies on the known planet. You

7:03

consider that wisdom. It

7:05

doesn't cost anything to be nice. It

7:09

costs enormously to be nice sometimes. You

7:11

get exploited to

7:14

hear and hell and gone and back. My

7:17

God being nice. Oh

7:20

no. It

7:22

costs enormous amounts to be nice. So

7:25

let's see here. Don't forget the

7:27

past. Okay. That's not really

7:29

advice. Slow down, stay on your own lane, keep your distance from

7:31

the car in front of you. Never

7:34

date a welfare chick. All right. I

7:39

mean, those are more commandments than wisdom. I

7:43

mean, they're not, I'm not going to try and say that they're

7:45

completely irrelevant, but they're not

7:47

exactly. Responsibility

7:54

gravitates to the responsible. Nothing

7:57

comes to mind for parental wisdom, no wisdom given by my

7:59

parents. Yeah what is it was the

8:01

biggest lesson you ever got from working is that

8:03

there was a response the most popular response from

8:05

the question what did you most learn from working

8:08

was. Efficient

8:12

workers are punished with more work. Are

8:15

you. So

8:20

tom says nothing really so penta

8:22

says i can't think of anything i

8:24

usually found myself going to them getting frustrated and figuring

8:26

out on my own somehow. Sometimes

8:30

in life you have to learn how to kiss us before

8:32

you can kick it was not very

8:34

helpful. Does

8:36

terrible advice master's wisdom count nope

8:39

there's more important things than work they did work all

8:41

the time though right i mean it has to

8:43

be something that they had some credibility with in other words they

8:45

did that right. They told me to get

8:47

an education with a decent tip back then don't know

8:49

about today. Yeah.

8:59

So. People

9:01

say but they're my parents

9:04

to which my question is great did

9:07

they parent. Did

9:10

they parent. Somebody

9:19

says i just over three wheel around dirt roads

9:21

to care farm animals but honestly other

9:24

than job skills i can't really think of myself

9:26

even. Both of my

9:28

parents were teachers. This reminds me

9:30

of one guy calling him with questions about homeschooling you asked about

9:32

public schools taught me said you learn how to cook eggs. Why

9:35

do you think efficient workers get rewarded with more

9:37

work and not greater paying corporate america because the

9:40

efficient workers. So the

9:42

purpose of modern governments is

9:44

to give people an earned benefits

9:46

and some of the benefits are

9:48

subsidies and welfare and so on.

9:52

And a lot of the subsidies are jobs

9:54

you didn't earn right in the quotas and

9:56

you gotta hire this and that the other

9:58

and so. Every

10:01

efficient worker is carrying two

10:03

to three HR appointees on their back.

10:08

Father was a policeman told me, if you can't do

10:10

the time, don't commit the crime. And that's a. Beretta

10:15

stuff, right? Don't care more for others than they

10:17

care for themselves. You will get sick. Oh,

10:19

that's from your parents. Good for them. Good for them.

10:22

Dad would tie knots with ropes, but never teach me how to

10:24

tie the knots. I had to learn how to tie a fast

10:26

hitch myself. Merit

10:31

is not a measure, not the measure of who gets promoted. Learned

10:33

that at work. My parents lied

10:36

and gaslit me constantly because they found it amusing.

10:38

Lots of bad advice I was given. I believe

10:40

purposefully sabotage is not right. My

10:42

father was the only one who tried giving me life

10:45

advice. My mother, not at all. Right. Not

10:48

my parents, but my grandparents being humble. Mr.

10:51

Miyaki told me, wax on wax off. True wisdom

10:54

there. Yes. So

10:56

did you get. What about your

10:58

teachers? Did

11:01

your teachers give you any

11:03

advice or feedback or

11:05

wisdom or knowledge that you

11:08

still use to this day? Now, I mean, most of us

11:10

do, you know, multiplication, division, addition, and subtraction,

11:15

we'll do some percentages, maybe

11:19

some ratios, but somebody

11:21

says, focus on your decisions and behaviors,

11:23

things you can control. Right. So

11:26

you got some practical skills. You

11:33

know, I get that. That's not unimportant. You got some practical skills.

11:39

What moral lessons did you get? What

11:43

moral lessons did

11:46

you get? Most

11:50

teachers are terrible. Only about two

11:52

to three really cared. Yeah. One teacher says, right,

11:54

you get a obtaining Olympus experience because it's

11:59

aclassy identity makes my life deployed. that what you know is more

12:01

important than grades. I mean

12:03

these are little fortune cookie stuff but how do

12:05

you use that? How do

12:07

you use that? Thanks

12:11

Anthony. How do you how do you use that? One

12:15

teacher told me not to use weak words like saying

12:18

I think all the time or kind of sort of

12:20

yeah yeah it drives me nuts with the caller sometimes

12:22

when we hit the fog banks of I don't

12:24

know sort of kind of maybe a little somewhat blah blah

12:27

blah blah blah blah. It's like

12:29

you're a man speaking absolutes or

12:32

don't speak. Teachers mostly just haranguing me

12:34

about doing homework and how I had so much

12:36

more potential yeah yeah yeah. It's

12:43

funny you know if I was a coach and

12:45

I was unable to inspire an

12:47

athlete I would question myself I wouldn't just bitch

12:49

at the athlete but you know coaching

12:52

is a bit more free market.

12:55

My history teacher taught me think. Or

12:58

I the government will think for you. Okay

13:02

but telling people to think is a little different from teaching

13:04

them how to think. I

13:06

got voltaier I will defend the death commands right

13:08

to say yeah. I

13:11

history teacher said it's stupid to compare communism to

13:13

nazism like baseball cards they're both bad. But

13:17

it's not stupid to compare them is it mean.

13:21

It's like say multiple sclerosis and cancer are

13:23

both bad. But there's

13:25

different right. Different

13:28

causes different cures. After

13:35

holding the door open for an old lady the only piece

13:37

of advice my father gave me was always hold the door

13:39

open for old people. That really

13:41

struck me. Because

13:44

it never given me anything like that before then he continued

13:46

because you never know if they will die one day and

13:48

put you in their inheritance. One

13:51

of my female middle school teachers told me once that I

13:54

should join the military that it would set me straight not

13:56

anymore I think but I hear what you think. I

14:00

had two teachers in high school that were

14:02

instrumental in honing my critical thinking skills and

14:04

showing me how to think for myself. In early

14:06

high school, they taught me that the media was manipulative and

14:08

that the Cultural Revolution was

14:12

terrible. Oh,

14:14

so they thought the media was manipulative, not schools?

14:16

Media is voluntary, schools are not. I

14:19

had a teacher who I despised. Recommend I go get paid co-op. He

14:22

said, I've seen a lot of guys like you get paid

14:24

to go to school. I had a teacher who I had to teach who

14:26

I had to teach who I had to teach who I had to teach up. He

14:29

said, I've seen a lot of guys like you getting job career does them a lot of

14:31

good. I hated his arrogant smugness, but he was

14:33

right. I didn't belong in public school. My

14:37

father drilled into me to respect my elders as well. I

14:39

think the lesson he should have taught me is to respect

14:41

people who deserve respect. I also had

14:43

a teacher who pulled me aside and told me not to hang

14:45

out with the jackasses in the class. Also said that I was

14:47

a capable kid who had a lot of potential and

14:49

encouraged me to think higher of myself. Right.

15:02

Australia is just Europe's Texas. All right. The

15:05

church said coffee was bad, but had nothing to say about

15:07

circumcision. Oh man. Oh

15:10

man. Oh

15:13

man. I

15:20

mean, the ultimate vaccination to evil

15:23

is clarity in moral thinking. And

15:26

everybody's concerned about jamming mRNA into

15:28

children, but not morally

15:31

instructed them to avoid evil and

15:34

pursue virtue. Another

15:38

piece of advice in the face of bullying was to

15:40

keep my thumbs outside of my fingers when punching. Yeah,

15:43

never punch with your thumb. It'll break your thumb. Right.

15:45

You got to be outside, right? Somebody says, I'm not sure

15:47

how much credit my father gets for it, but I had to

15:49

do chores for spending money as a kid. And

15:52

when at 12, I got a flyer route, he did have

15:55

me save my money. I learned dollars equals working rules

15:57

for staying at home to save was either. to

16:00

school or work a job. So

16:04

he made you save your money? I'm

16:07

not sure that teaches much responsibility. Now,

16:15

of course, this is not an open sample.

16:20

Sorry, people over here on the

16:22

rumble. Yes,

16:27

somebody says. My father praised me for stopping

16:30

at the road and checking for myself, making my own

16:32

choices instead of just following him. My

16:35

mom taught me to never

16:37

put eyeliner on

16:39

your bottom lashes. Is that

16:42

a thing? You don't put eyeliner on

16:44

your bottom lashes? Is that like a...that's a thing. All

16:46

right. Good to know. Good

16:49

to know. Thank

16:54

you for the tip. I appreciate it. With

16:57

regards to fathers, I was advised to find a

16:59

technological area that moves too fast for universities to

17:01

systematize it, then throw myself in feed

17:03

first after leaving the police. He taught

17:06

himself engineering and after a lot of work

17:08

became a telecommunications systems architect. If

17:10

I took that advice, I would have thrown myself

17:12

in cryptocurrencies, but he lacked moral credibility. Oh, I'm

17:14

sorry about that. Is

17:17

it a lie about...you

17:19

know a lot about eyeliner for a dude? Yeah.

17:27

So, yes. We

17:33

got sweet fuck all from our elders,

17:36

basically. I

17:42

had a teacher who called me an ass in front of the

17:44

whole class. I gave him the middle finger shortly after and the

17:46

principal suspended me for a day. My parents took the side of

17:48

the school. I was really depressed and broken at the time. Yeah.

17:53

Oh, you're a professional makeup artist? Can

17:57

you help me? I don't know.

18:00

I don't know, do people normally wear makeup

18:02

in front of cameras? They do, right?

18:04

Yeah, they do. I don't. I

18:07

just, I don't have that kind of time on the planet. My

18:09

dad taught me about the scientific method, just didn't like

18:11

it when I applied that to ethics. Yeah,

18:13

I can see that. I can see that. I

18:16

know nothing would want to keep it that way about makeup. Yeah.

18:24

I learned how to change my own oil. Ah,

18:27

you are a T-60. Or a silon. So

18:31

yeah, we got nothing. We

18:34

got nothing. So

18:37

parents in general, and I know this is a bit

18:39

of a self-selecting group. You tend to be more curious

18:42

and original than the masses. But

18:46

if somebody says to me,

18:49

well, that's my parent, they deserve special consideration.

18:51

I'm like, yeah, okay. No problem

18:53

with that as a principle. They

18:55

deserve special consideration because they parented

18:57

you, right? They

19:00

weren't, what did I say to some other caller the

19:02

other day that they were big, hitty

19:05

roommates who paid the bills. My

19:12

dad taught me that before I walked into a bar, remove my glasses,

19:14

or you look like a dog. Also that if

19:16

someone gets in your face, punch them first. That's about it. Well,

19:19

that's terrible advice. I mean,

19:21

the glasses, sure. But

19:26

if somebody gets, like if somebody's yelling

19:28

at you and you punch them first, that's

19:31

terrible advice in my opinion. Then

19:35

you get charged with assault. You might go

19:37

to jail. You have a record and

19:39

you could get sued. Sorry,

19:41

that's just the way that it is. As far

19:43

as I understand it, though I'm not a lawyer,

19:45

I think hitting throwing the first punch is generally

19:47

a pretty bad idea all around. My

19:51

father, when I was very young, told me the importance of not being

19:53

fat and how to exercise in a kind way. Helpful.

19:56

But you guys got nothing with regards to morals, right?

20:01

So, if people want special considerations because

20:03

they're your parents, shouldn't they have parented

20:05

you? Which means giving you a wisdom

20:08

that you use every day for the rest of your life,

20:10

or at least on a regular basis for the rest of

20:12

your life? I don't know, man. What

20:16

did you get? What

20:20

did you get? Got

20:29

better advice from the police constable who visited

20:31

her schools, taught us about personal safety by

20:33

safety, yes. I managed

20:35

to get my advice from the Reader's Digest.

20:39

I mentioned this before, in the basement

20:41

of the flats

20:44

that I grew up

20:46

in, not low shoes,

20:48

but apartments, people would throw

20:50

stuff out and I found basically a giant

20:52

tied together pallets almost

20:55

of Reader's

20:57

Digest. And Reader's Digest,

20:59

for those of you who don't know, it wasn't a

21:01

magazine, but it was basically a booklet.

21:05

And they produced, every month I

21:07

think it was, they produced a thick

21:10

booklet full of interesting information.

21:13

They had laughter, the best

21:15

medicine, which had jokes. They had

21:17

humor in uniform, which was funny stuff about

21:19

the military. They had a

21:21

variety of articles. They didn't do

21:24

celebrity trash or anything like that. And they

21:26

had something I absolutely loved, which was called

21:28

drama in real life, which was like

21:30

really exciting, dangerous, crazy adventures that people

21:32

had gotten into and how they coped

21:34

and survived and all of that. And

21:37

there was some decent moral lessons and

21:39

in all of that. And that was

21:42

old school Christianity. A lot of it was

21:44

old school Christianity. And so

21:46

I probably read a couple

21:49

of hundred of those, which I got

21:51

for free because people were just tossing them out. I

21:54

assumed that somebody had died and they

21:56

were a bit of a hoarder and they threw the stuff

21:58

in the basement and I was just very lucky to be...

22:00

going out to throw out the trash in the basement when

22:02

I saw these things and took them back upstairs. It

22:04

took forever. So I had to cut up the string

22:07

keeping them all together and I brought them back up

22:09

and I kept them and I read them and I

22:11

found those to be very interesting, influential. It

22:13

gave me a lot of a sense of good humor, a positive

22:15

view of the world, and not only were

22:18

they throwing out hundreds

22:20

and hundreds of these readers. I just, I

22:23

don't know what to call them because again,

22:26

they're not magazines, but they're not quite pamphlets,

22:28

but they were a small square, a couple

22:30

hundred pages maybe. But also, Reader's Digest did

22:32

condensed books. And

22:36

so you would get a volume with

22:38

say four books that had been condensed.

22:40

They stripped away extraneous text, obviously. Sorry,

22:42

you know what condensing means. So

22:46

because it was condensed, I got the cream of the crop. Sorry,

22:49

condensed cream joke and mild. So

22:53

I got some moral instruction from that. I

22:56

also remember in my early teens, there was

22:58

a theologian who wrote a moral analysis of

23:00

Mad Magazine and I got

23:02

some very interesting moral lessons from

23:04

that. So Mad Magazine was

23:06

this chaotic neutral kids

23:10

comic book joke panel

23:12

thing that came out that

23:14

was pretty funny and they had these things. You

23:16

fold them, you fold them back in thirds

23:18

and you get a totally different picture they had. They

23:21

would take apart movies. There

23:24

was little lessons that came in. They even had

23:26

little comics in the corner.

23:28

They had Spy vs Spy, which I

23:31

found just Tom and Jerry with pointy

23:33

hats, not particularly interesting. But there was a

23:35

lot of skepticism and there

23:37

was a lot of morality buried

23:40

in Mad Magazine. And I remember when I

23:42

read this book and analyzing from a Christian perspective,

23:44

The Morals of Mad Magazine, I found that very

23:47

interesting. And I was like, when

23:49

I read that book, I was probably 12 or 13. And

23:53

maybe it was one of the things that started to get

23:55

me into philosophy, or at least primed me for philosophy when

23:57

I started getting into philosophy at the age of 15 or

23:59

so. but. Well

24:03

also we got into for like a philosophy

24:05

as well because of dungeons and dragons that

24:07

there was the dungeons and dragons you have these alignments

24:09

and I haven't talked about this for a while so

24:11

hopefully you'll forgive me if you've heard it before. In

24:15

dungeons and dragons you have these alignments there's

24:17

lawful neutral and chaotic lawful means obviously

24:20

rules based neutral means maybe rules if

24:22

they suit my interest chaotic means I

24:25

don't care about rules I'm more impulsive. End

24:28

in chaotic neutral and lawful

24:30

there was three alignments there was good

24:33

neutral. An evil so

24:35

lawful good was I follow moral rules

24:38

and I don't follow immoral rules lawful

24:40

neutral is I'll just follow the rules

24:43

I don't. Care if they're

24:45

good or bad I'll just follow the rules lawful

24:47

evil is I will follow evil rules right I

24:49

in a criminal gang and I will follow evil

24:51

rules I will avoid or. Go

24:54

against good rules there's neutral good neutral true

24:56

neutral and then neutral. Evil

24:58

and then there's chaotic good which is sort

25:00

of like the Robin Hood thing like this

25:02

no respect particularly for rules but you aim

25:04

for virtue. I care neutral and

25:06

then chaotic evil which is

25:08

you know. Psychopathic I

25:10

guess sociopathic would be more lawful

25:13

evil and so when you're in dungeons and

25:16

dragons you have character classes.

25:20

End your powers are based

25:23

upon your character class so as you can

25:25

imagine being the goody three shoes that I

25:27

am. I played the character class

25:29

while I mean I played a bunch but the

25:31

one that I played the longest and actually ended

25:33

up being becoming a demigod at the end of

25:35

my dungeons and dragons process. I

25:38

was the lawful

25:41

good paladin right it's a holy night

25:43

so you know obviously you can tell a lot about

25:45

people by the dnd characters they play so

25:48

lawful good holy night spreading truth and virtue

25:50

sometimes very aggressively. So

25:53

not not wildly off from my entire business plan

25:55

business plan paladin to

25:58

the platform so. And

26:02

other people I knew

26:04

were not so

26:06

good so. I

26:11

gained my powers I gained protection from evil

26:13

I had healing spells and so on and

26:15

other cool things and I could smite with

26:17

my holy sword just all kinds of cool stuff that

26:19

I could do. And

26:22

I got my powers as long as I followed

26:24

lawful good as a moral philosophy

26:27

so if I did something chaotic

26:29

or immoral my god would say.

26:32

No I'm not giving you my powers like

26:34

I pray to the god for my powers

26:36

I'm not giving you these powers because you're

26:38

not actually a good representative of me so

26:40

I followed a lawful good god and if

26:43

I did something chaotic and or evil then.

26:45

The god would strip my powers from me

26:48

saying you're not a good representative of

26:50

what I believe and you're actually the smurching the

26:53

reputation of me as a god by claiming to

26:55

follow me and doing the opposite you made have

26:57

heard me make this argument from

26:59

time to time. So

27:02

I had to follow the lawful

27:04

good stuff in order to retain my powers again quite

27:07

quite deep in its own way. So

27:10

I also did a lot of dungeon mastering which

27:12

helped me with storytelling and plot development characterization and

27:15

world building all this great imaginative stuff that I

27:17

think I put to good use in my novels

27:20

and. Who

27:22

should I say who should I say. So

27:25

two players close to me bob and duck.

27:29

So Bob was

27:31

not the real names so Bob was

27:33

a. Chaotic neutral thief

27:35

now Bob was a troll to

27:38

be frank so I remember one

27:41

character fell into a pit where it

27:43

was a trap and there was rising oil that was

27:45

going to hit some torches and burn him to

27:47

death and he begged for help and bob was the

27:49

only character around who could help him so bob. Shot

27:52

this character through the leg with an arrow tied with

27:55

the rope and pulled him to safety so he did

27:57

save his life but he injured him at the same

27:59

time so. This is the kind of stuff that Bob would do. And

28:01

he found it, he found it unnervingly

28:03

funny. You know, like it's kind of funny in

28:06

a, in a trollish kind of way, but he

28:08

giggled way too much. I didn't actually

28:10

think it was particularly healthy. That's kind of how it played

28:12

out in his life. Anyway, so

28:15

that's not Bob and Doug. Well

28:17

Bob is, right? So Bob

28:20

did something to Doug. Now Doug was a chaotic

28:22

good ranger and had as a ranger, great attacks

28:24

against giants, rangers and giants are sort of natural

28:27

enemies. And we were going through a big giant

28:29

adventure and Bob

28:32

did something to annoy Doug the ranger, the

28:34

chaotic good ranger. And so the

28:36

chaotic good ranger hired an assassin to kill

28:39

Bob. Right?

28:44

So the chaotic neutral thief was

28:47

doing something to annoy the chaotic good ranger. The

28:49

chaotic good ranger hired an assassin to kill the chaotic

28:51

good, the chaotic neutral thief. And

28:56

so I stripped as the dungeon master,

28:58

I stripped the ranger of his

29:00

powers because I said, you can't

29:02

be good and hire an assassin unless

29:04

it's indirect self-defense, which it's not. I

29:09

mean, I stand by that more than 40 years

29:11

later. I stand by that moral judgment

29:13

that you cannot be a good

29:15

person. If someone is annoying to you and

29:18

you hire an assassin to kill them, that's

29:20

evil. That's

29:22

evil. I mean, it's

29:25

not self-defense. You're hiring an

29:27

assassin to go. So we got into

29:29

the most outrageous arguments about this

29:31

because he didn't want to give up his powers,

29:33

particularly because he was using these powers against the

29:36

giants. But I was like, and

29:38

so we got into this big disagreement

29:43

and it was ferocious and I wasn't going to budge. Even

29:46

though I wasn't obviously a big moral philosopher at

29:48

the time, I'm like, no, you can't

29:51

hire an assassin to kill someone who's annoying and call

29:53

yourself good. And if you're not good, then

29:55

the God who is good, who you get your

29:57

powers from is going to revoke your powers. And

30:00

you're gonna be at best chaotic neutral. Not

30:04

evil necessarily because you don't immediately become

30:06

evil the moment you do something evil it generally is kind of

30:08

like a habit. So we got

30:11

into this absolutely ferocious went on for a long

30:13

time and more than more than one session cuz

30:15

he refused to play. If

30:20

he couldn't retain his powers and

30:22

i said i tried to reach a compromise and i

30:24

said okay let's try this let's try this.

30:28

You can. You

30:32

can undo the action. Right

30:34

massive controls that right you can you can edit

30:37

undo i said i'll let you go back and

30:39

not hire. The assassin he's like no i'm

30:41

hiring the assassin is really mad at the thief right i'm

30:43

no i'm gonna hide and i said okay well if you

30:45

don't want to undo hiring the assassin you lose your powers

30:47

well i'm not gonna play if i've lost my powers i'm

30:49

like well then we're at an impasse like you either don't

30:51

play. Or you

30:54

undo your action or you accept the

30:56

loss of powers but you can't hire

30:58

an assassin to kill someone who's just

31:00

being annoying and retain virtue sorry like

31:02

that's just anyway so so we ended

31:04

up. I

31:07

can't remember how we found this guy but there

31:09

was an elder so of course we were like

31:12

i don't know 14 or so right and

31:15

we found this elder. Through

31:18

some contact some friend of a friend and he was

31:20

a guy who was in his thirties which of course

31:22

seemed as ancient as methyl so

31:35

we went to the elder. To

31:40

get an answer and

31:42

we tripped to his office in the

31:44

basement of a library. And

31:47

i will tell you it was not one of the

31:49

most inspiring moments of my life trip and down three

31:52

flights of stairs to an airless windowless little corner office.

31:54

Piled with the books. To

31:58

talk to a guy. And

32:00

I'm like, oh, so D&D is like a passing thing,

32:02

right? To some degree, I mean, you

32:05

don't necessarily want to have it to be the core of your

32:07

life in

32:09

your 30s, right? Because this guy, it

32:11

was the core of his life in his 30s, right? It's

32:14

like when I went to a, I went to one

32:16

Dungeons and Dragons convention and it was actually pretty terrifying

32:18

for the most part. So

32:21

I still

32:23

play. My daughter really enjoys

32:26

it, so we play a pretty sanitized version as

32:28

we have. We play with some friends and it's

32:30

a huge amount of fun. And I have, I

32:32

mean, it's great. It's great. I just

32:34

wouldn't want to be, you know, dungeon mastering. There's

32:37

a guy, I think in Waterloo, he's a professor

32:39

of history or something like that. He's been

32:41

running a Dungeons and Dragons campaign for over

32:44

30 years. You

32:46

can look him up. It's pretty wild. He's

32:49

been running a dungeon. He's got like 20,000 miniatures.

32:51

He's got entire maps in his basement. Now he's

32:53

got a daughter. So I guess he had

32:55

a kid, but that seems like a lot of time to spend

32:58

on that. But

33:01

hey, you know, whatever floats your boat. So we

33:03

went to this elder, this guy who was a

33:05

bearded tubby guy, the usual kind of

33:07

a cliche of the D and D nerd in his 30s.

33:10

And we went to him and we presented our case

33:12

and he just wouldn't, um, we

33:17

got no answer or we got no answer.

33:19

And to me, this is again, I have

33:21

no, no change in opinion. Now 43

33:24

years later, like it's pushing

33:26

half a century. I have no change in opinion.

33:28

I don't look back and say, Oh, I shouldn't

33:30

have been like, no, like you cannot hire assassins

33:32

to kill people who are just annoying. You

33:34

can't do it. Right. You can't

33:36

do it. So I also

33:39

got into philosophy partly because I had

33:42

these sort of strong moral instincts and

33:44

all right.

33:50

Let me see here. Let

33:52

me just get your comments. Somebody

33:56

says, I wish they would have taught us about

33:58

economics in school. However. what they would have taught

34:01

us would have probably been propagandized. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

34:06

I got told not to hang around kids who were

34:08

thinking of doing crime. The lessons got pretty detailed sometimes.

34:10

Yeah. Helpful. Everything

34:12

I was taught was never actually modeled. Do as I say, not

34:14

as I do. Yeah, that's tough, right? Well,

34:16

dad was often far too often clear on the concept that

34:18

children should be seen and not heard. If there was a

34:20

corollary, it would have been and

34:22

seldom seen. Yeah. Yeah. When I would stand

34:25

in front of the TV, my mom will stand in front of something,

34:27

my, you're a pain, but you're not a window pain. I

34:33

think I received my morality from comic books in the

34:35

90s back before they were broke. Yeah.

34:37

I read some comic books. I used to, I built a

34:39

tree house with my brother and we would go up there.

34:42

And sometimes

34:47

I would go up there, you know, every

34:49

kid from a bad household needs a hideaway,

34:51

right? You need a hovel, you need a place to go. You

34:54

need a cave, you need a fort in the

34:56

woods, you need a tree house or something like that. And

34:58

I would go up and I would read these World War

35:00

II comics that were actually quite grim, quite

35:02

grim and quite moving and taught me

35:05

a lot about courage and brotherhood

35:07

and so on. Right. All

35:10

right. My

35:14

parents were neglectful for the most part, but my mother often

35:16

told me to stand up straight with my shoulders back. If

35:18

I'm not mistaken, you've mentioned this phenomenon before as

35:20

if to hide the dysfunction. Yeah, for sure. I

35:23

got some novel morals from novels like fantasy novels.

35:25

Yeah, there's a fantasy novel. Oh, gosh. If anyone

35:27

could ever get this back to me, I'd be

35:29

completely thrilled. I think it was in the 80s

35:32

and I actually ran an entire Dungeons and Dragons

35:34

campaign off this fantasy novel. And it's about a

35:37

young wizard who is in a

35:39

city and he's trying to learn his powers and he

35:41

can't learn his powers. He's having a little trouble learning

35:43

his powers. He finally gets them at the end in

35:45

sort of very powerful and cool ways. And

35:48

it was a probability based magic system. Like you

35:50

had a probability of the spell working. And

35:53

I mean, that's very obscure, but if anyone can ever

35:55

figure out that novel or give me some suggestions, I

35:59

would love to. like to hear it. I

36:01

remember Istvan the archer as well. I don't think that

36:03

that stuff was ever done, but that was a good

36:05

depiction of evil. Owl magazine taught me

36:07

lots of useful stuff for kids. Yeah.

36:11

Uh, Steph, how's your relationship with Christianity as of

36:14

now? I remember you mentioning a Catholic book you

36:16

were reading previously. Any updates on that? Yeah.

36:20

Um, um, um, I

36:22

don't think there's anything particularly new from the line. I talked

36:24

about this a couple of weeks ago, so. I

36:26

tend to watch chaotic good because well, I, er,

36:30

what is it? Uh, there was a, the AC DC

36:33

logo was a tattoo and it was ADHD and

36:35

if I'm on the highway to, Hey, look at

36:37

squirrel. Never

36:41

into such games might be in part, no interest in secondly,

36:43

not having friends. I

36:45

once had a character where I had another player cut off both my

36:47

arms because I didn't want to go in the direction they did. Oh,

36:49

that's kind of psycho. Yeah. I

36:51

mean, so D and D was great for imagination

36:53

and it was cheap man. I mean,

36:55

you buy, you buy a couple of books and we all went

36:57

split fills on the books. So we

37:00

got thousands of hours of entertainment for almost

37:02

no money. All

37:09

right. Let me see here. A

37:12

12 or so I stole a couple of Garfield comics from a book

37:14

fair. I came home and told my mom, I stole them. I don't

37:16

remember her saying much or getting mad, but she returned with me to the

37:18

book fair and told them I had put the Garfield's

37:20

in my bag on accident. They let me keep the comics,

37:22

but I never read them anyway. No

37:24

memory of instruction or even reprimand for this event

37:27

or the handful of other times I did something that

37:29

should have prompted some form of instruction or intervention. I

37:33

actually got a lot of my work ethic from anime. LOL

37:35

as most anime stories are for over and working hard to

37:38

level up. And what

37:40

was it? The Gandalf

37:42

told everyone to run so he could defeat the boss

37:44

battle and return more powerful with the new stuff. He

37:47

got all the XP from the boss battle. Yeah.

37:50

I was in a Safeway

37:52

store. I think it was a convenience store. No,

37:54

no, it was a, and

37:57

I was looking for something to eat. Couldn't find anything.

38:00

and it turned out a friend, my friend, had

38:02

stolen a bag

38:04

of M&Ms. He'd stolen a bag of M&Ms. I didn't. I

38:07

didn't even know he was. Anyway, so they

38:09

called the cops and us and the cops came

38:11

and all of that. And

38:13

we never, I think they just frightened us. They'd just released

38:15

us. And I said, yeah, I didn't know

38:17

my friend was stealing. You might not want

38:19

to hang around friends like that, yeah, kind of thing, right? And

38:22

my mom came to pick me up and I thought she'd be

38:24

incensed that I was in the police station, but I

38:28

got beaten up for nothing, leaving a cup

38:30

somewhere. But I didn't get

38:32

any negative feedback from having to be picked

38:34

up from a police station at the age of 12. Strange.

38:41

Actually, civilization is a, they did a study

38:44

where people who are young, people

38:47

who are good at the game, civilization, Sid

38:49

Meier civilization, are actually pretty good at

38:52

business management, too. It's

38:54

either the same skill set or one trains

38:56

the other. I got back into playing

38:58

a little bit of Twitch games. I haven't played them

39:01

in really years, Doom

39:03

2016. And that's because I actually

39:05

do think it's good for my brain. It keeps

39:07

it working fast, because there's so much chaos and

39:09

so much going on and so many weapons choices

39:11

that I think it just has my brain

39:13

pushed to the max. And I think it's a good,

39:15

good workout for my brain. I mean, all workouts are

39:17

good workouts for your brain. I

39:20

remember admiring Wolverine because he could sniff out shape

39:23

shifters and it kind of had the epiphany to

39:25

trust my instincts, but now philosophy kind of seems

39:27

like more of an indicator of people's true intentions

39:29

on anything. Yeah.

39:37

Imagination is funny. It makes a cloudy day, sunny,

39:39

makes a bee think of honey, just like I

39:42

think of you. Imagination is really, really important muscle

39:44

to develop. Animationation has been

39:46

outsourced to video game developers now. So

39:49

yeah, that's really sad. I would

39:51

say the most cracked people are StarCraft players. I would

39:53

hire any on the spot if your masters are above.

39:56

I don't know what you mean by cracked. You mean

39:58

good? Yeah,

40:02

I mean, I used to play the SimCity

40:05

games back in the day. I remember there was one like

40:07

you addressed it, and they would come and bomb the city,

40:09

then you had to rebuild it. I'm like, hey, that's

40:11

what killed my grandma. All

40:14

right, so, sorry, to get back to this

40:16

question, daycare. So

40:19

what does your body experience daycare as? Right?

40:23

So what does your body experience daycare as? Well,

40:25

your body, I think, I don't know, I can't

40:27

prove it, it's just a theory. Your

40:30

body experiences daycare as your

40:33

tribe lost the war and you've been kidnapped.

40:42

Because why would you be separated from your

40:44

parents and raised by strangers unless your tribe

40:46

had lost the war and you'd been sold into slavery,

40:48

or you were kidnapped, or you were being

40:52

kept alive so that you could grow up to

40:54

be a slave? So

40:57

what would occur in

41:00

your body if your parents

41:02

vanished and you were raised by strangers? Well,

41:07

child trafficking, right? Your

41:10

parents and elders lost the war,

41:13

and you've been captured, and you're going to be a slave.

41:19

And this is why people

41:21

are both bullies and cowards.

41:25

Slaves have to exaggerate bullies being

41:27

a bully and being a coward. And it's not really

41:30

bullying coward in terms of a moral sense, it's just

41:32

the way that this kind of stuff works. But

41:34

yeah, I know, because slaves

41:36

have to be cowards to their masters

41:39

and bullies to other slaves. Because

41:42

if other slaves aren't cowards, every slave gets

41:44

punished, right? So if you speak up or

41:46

some slave tries to escape, or like all

41:48

the slaves get punished, so you have to

41:50

be both a coward and a bully

41:52

if you are programmed to be a slave.

41:54

And I think that being raised not by

41:56

your parents to a large degree is

41:59

programmed you to be both a bully and

42:01

a coward. And what do we see in

42:03

the modern world? Cry bullies, right? People who

42:05

bully like crazy, but the moment you push

42:07

back, they cry victim. Right? So they're both

42:09

bullies and cowards. And

42:12

that is tragically what happens when

42:15

you hand your children over to strangers. And

42:17

if you doubt that even more, think of it this way.

42:21

So when I worked in a daycare,

42:24

I was the only male and the

42:26

only white person. So if

42:28

there were a lot of white kids, and synthesis,

42:30

any race, it's not particular to white kids, but

42:32

if you are a white kid and you're handed

42:35

over to say some foreign

42:38

race, doesn't really matter what race, then

42:41

you're going to assume that the invasion worked,

42:44

your parents were killed. And

42:46

the other race that the sort of is,

42:48

is now in charge of you, like the

42:50

way that the Muslims would sometimes sell Christians

42:53

into slavery and so on. Right? So

42:55

I think when you look at the sort

42:57

of multiracial aspect of things, I think that

43:00

just makes it even more vivid for kids.

43:03

So yeah,

43:05

it's, it's, it's rough. It's

43:07

rough. I think it's very, very tough for

43:10

the daycare kids. When

43:13

this is nothing negative to any race, I'm just sort of pointing

43:15

it out that deep down you'll be like, okay,

43:17

so why am I being raised by, you know,

43:20

real foreigners, like total foreigners, at least in

43:22

terms of like your, now, if you

43:25

go to a grandparent, then your parents

43:27

got killed, but you didn't lose the war, right? So

43:32

I don't think that's as bad, but yeah,

43:34

I think it's, I think it's rough. So

43:39

to, you know, conquer people, you first need to make them feel

43:41

like they're conquered. And the best way to do that is to

43:43

have the kids largely

43:45

raised by strangers. So

43:50

then the question is, okay, so hang on.

43:54

But Steph, you may say, and may

43:56

you very well say, but Steph, the

43:58

parents come home at night and They

44:00

pick their kids up from daycare and then. And

44:03

then. They

44:07

take care of the kids in the evening and okay, so

44:09

so how does the kid process that

44:11

he's being raised by strangers? And

44:15

his parents come home at night. Well, he's going to

44:17

he's going to assume I think deep down sort of

44:19

physiologically down in the base of his brain, he's going

44:21

to be like, okay, so my

44:23

parents lost the war and we're all

44:25

slaves. Right so I'm a slave

44:28

who's being raised by others so I have

44:30

more allegiance to the conquering people I'm

44:32

a slave and my parents are slaves which is

44:34

why. They have to go and

44:36

work for others during the day and they let me

44:38

come home at night and spend some time with me

44:40

but we're we're all slaves right so that would be

44:42

my guess. Oh,

44:51

PewDiePie did he move to Japan? I

44:54

haven't kept track of that guy forever and

44:56

forever. Unless the home

44:58

environment is so awful daycare is an improvement now

45:01

that's a grim thought. So

45:12

slaves can't pair

45:15

bond very easily because the

45:18

slave pair bonding like if you

45:20

become best buds with your fellow slave and

45:22

he gets beaten to death or sold off or

45:25

just whatever right and then they said the pair

45:27

bonding becomes kind of pointless in a way right.

45:29

I mean this of course examples in

45:32

the in the documentation of the

45:34

antebellum south that the black slaves

45:36

would have a family and for

45:38

whatever economic reason. The

45:40

family would be split up and the male slave

45:42

would be sold here and the female slave would

45:44

be sold over there and the family would be

45:46

split up and someone right. Ironically

45:51

PewDiePie is not big in Japan hey

45:53

alpha field reference. That

45:55

guy's got a high voice man. So.

46:02

Yeah, it's

46:04

really, really sad. There

46:08

must be some external power that would keep the

46:10

parents from raising the children. And

46:12

I mean, there is, in a way. It's just

46:15

propaganda. But for the child, it's like there must

46:17

be some external power that is preventing

46:19

his parents from raising him. And that

46:21

can only be loss of

46:23

a battle. All

46:27

right. Has

46:30

this channel ever put out a Sunday morning

46:32

livestream without Stephen Mornew? That's a good

46:34

question. That's a good question.

46:38

I mean, has a

46:40

solo artist ever released an album under his

46:43

own name that doesn't have him? I

46:46

think that'd be kind of fraught, wouldn't it? Freddie

46:48

Mercury's solo album with Steph singing

46:51

his songs. Not really. All

46:53

right. Thank

46:57

you for encouraging me to grow up, get sober, think,

46:59

and to face my fears. I started watching it on

47:02

YouTube eight years ago and you helped change my life

47:04

in a positive way. Oh, thank you,

47:06

Joey. That is beautiful to hear. And again, I

47:08

appreciate that. And I'm not trying to run

47:10

from the compliment. I really do appreciate it. But

47:15

remember to take most of the praise for yourself.

47:18

I may have written a diet book, so to speak, but

47:20

you changed your diet and that's not easy. So

47:22

well done. Good for you. freedomain.com/donate.

47:24

Don't forget to help out the

47:27

show. All right. Stephen,

47:29

your daughter's generation, have you seen a lot of

47:31

verbal delay and other mental handicaps? In

47:33

young kids, I'm seeing a shocking number of nonverbal children, even

47:36

as old as five, six, seven years old. I

47:39

don't know what that... No,

47:42

no, no. I mean, no. But

47:45

we have a pretty selected group, right? As you can

47:47

imagine. Nonverbal

47:55

kids, five, six, seven years old. So

47:57

that could be daycare. That could be

47:59

tablets. that could be the mask prompt

48:01

mask masking was a huge problem for children

48:03

learning language. Right,

48:06

I mean, nobody, everybody was in a

48:08

wild panic, obviously, during COVID. And almost

48:10

nobody was thinking about anything of

48:12

any relevance or importance or any, there was no caution,

48:14

right? The whole point of panicking people is so that

48:16

they don't think of the long term, right? When

48:19

you're running from a bear, you don't sit there and say,

48:21

yes, but in the long term, like, you just like need

48:23

to get away from bear and need to get away. So

48:25

they, you know, scare you with

48:27

these endless conveyor belts of hobgoblins. I think

48:29

what are they trying bird flu now? And

48:32

what's in the present of El Salvador? Was it said that

48:34

the whole bird flu thing was not true? But

48:39

yeah, they're constantly trying to scare you with stuff so

48:41

that you don't think about the long term, right? And,

48:48

you know, it's funny, you know, I mean,

48:51

I've mentioned this before, but I really, I'm having

48:53

trouble shaking all this stuff. I'm

48:56

having trouble shaking all this stuff. Nobody's

49:00

taken the new vaccines or very few people

49:02

are taking the new boosters. COVID is still

49:04

around. So

49:08

the majority of people are functionally unvaccinated.

49:10

COVID is still around. And

49:13

it's like nothing ever happened. Isn't

49:15

that wild? If

49:20

you've ever seen, and it's a pretty propaganda

49:22

heavy movie, but if you've ever seen the

49:24

movie, the Blues Brothers with Dan Aykroyd and

49:26

Jim Belushi, John Belushi,

49:28

John Belushi, sorry. Jim Belushi is the one who

49:31

made it. But

49:33

in that movie, there's a

49:35

sort of comic bit with Carrie Fisher, where she

49:37

keeps trying to kill the

49:39

Blues Brothers or Jake, I suppose. And

49:43

so she fires a rocket at them and the rocket goes

49:45

off and destroys a house and they're trying to get up,

49:47

dust themselves off and walk off like nothing happened. Isn't

49:53

this wild? I

50:00

think it was the entire point of COVID was.

50:02

I mean, I think the majority of the point

50:04

of COVID was just massive

50:07

money transfer. I

50:09

mean, that was a short term thing, tens

50:11

of billions of dollars, right? All

50:15

right, somebody says, I

50:17

think it's isolation in tablets. The kids in my neighborhood

50:19

are always inside on screens and the seven year olds

50:21

have the vocabulary of my three year old. Yeah,

50:26

is it too stressful to share peaceful parenting with a pregnant

50:28

woman best to wait until after birth? I

50:30

don't know, I don't know. Yeah,

50:37

I don't know, but isn't it wild? Like

50:39

nobody's talking about any of this, it's all completely

50:41

gone. There's no circling back,

50:44

there's no post evaluation, there's no, like

50:46

it's just like it never, it

50:48

doesn't seem like a weird dream.

50:52

Like it was just like I had a really, really

50:54

bad trip, man. I smoked the

50:56

wrong, DMT had a really, really bad

50:59

trip and it's

51:01

gone. Like

51:03

society passed

51:05

out, had a fever dream for two and a

51:07

half years. And

51:17

people don't want to circle back and say, you

51:20

know, we kind of did some crazy stuff. You

51:23

know, we kind of did

51:25

some crazy stuff, you know, we kept telling our children

51:27

don't succumb to peer pressure and we

51:29

kind of did some crazy stuff. Men

51:37

in black memory eraser, yeah, that pen, gone, right?

51:41

Boomer remover in China say the conspiracy

51:43

theorists slash realists. I

51:46

don't know what that means. Yeah,

51:51

I mean, when you pretend something didn't

51:54

happen, it's just in preparation to have it happen again,

51:56

right? Now, of course, the

51:59

media, the media. media doesn't want to talk about it,

52:01

obviously, right? The

52:06

Doors put out an album without Jim Morrison. Right.

52:11

Right. Ah.

52:16

Hey, Steph, question from the Telegram chat. Is there

52:18

a difference between suffering caused by indifference or by

52:20

sadism? Yes,

52:23

and there's an answer on Telegram, and

52:25

the answer comes from the Stepbot AI, and I think

52:28

it's pretty good. Well,

52:30

I mean, people, I don't know,

52:32

it's bizarre, right? Like

52:36

Jen Psaki, I'm going to circle back. Like, there's no

52:38

circling back. It's all gone. It's

52:40

all gone. And this is

52:42

one of the few times in history, right? If

52:45

people hate a particular minority, they don't

52:48

then become that minority. Right?

52:51

So people hated and feared the unvaccinated. And again,

52:53

I'm no doctor, but this is sort of my

52:55

understanding of what's going on, that the uptake of

52:57

the boosters is in the

52:59

single digits, right? And then the protection,

53:01

such as it is, wears off, according to sort of

53:04

what I've read. So again, don't take any advice from

53:06

me. Don't do anything based upon what I'm saying. I'm

53:08

just, this is sort of my amateur understanding of it.

53:11

But I

53:17

mean, everybody hated and feared the unvaccinated.

53:21

And now, like, a

53:23

year or two later, everyone's functionally unvaccinated.

53:26

I mean, isn't that wild? It's

53:30

like everyone hated minority X. And

53:33

then a year or two later, everybody is minority

53:35

X and nobody talks about anything. People's

53:43

capacity for unreality continues

53:48

to shock me. And that's my fault. I

53:50

mean, that that's totally on me. That's my

53:52

fault. My weakness. I like to hold on

53:55

to some vague shreds of optimism, however unrealistic

53:57

it may be. Oh

54:00

my gosh. Yeah.

54:10

And the other thing too, so. The

54:16

other thing too, I think. Why

54:19

people. Can't

54:23

talk about it. I think there's the shame at how

54:25

easily they were manipulated into hating people. Like

54:28

you hate people. For

54:30

being unvaccinated and then. You

54:33

know, nine out of 10 people don't take

54:35

their boosters, thus ending up functionally unvaccinated. So

54:38

it's pretty tough, I think. To

54:43

criticize people from a

54:45

year and a half ago that you've now become. So

54:47

I think that's one thing, but I think the

54:50

other thing is that the media. Can't

54:53

talk about. COVID

54:56

and it's aftermath. Because of social

54:59

media. And

55:04

that's pretty, it's pretty wild when you think about it. So

55:08

let's say some alphabet media company, right?

55:12

And they start saying something about COVID

55:14

then immediately everybody posts right

55:16

underneath. Well,

55:19

here's what you were saying two years ago. It's

55:21

complete opposite. And you're not acknowledging the difference. You're

55:23

not acknowledging the difference. Like the hypocrisy, like the

55:28

terrifying ball. One of the many terrifying things

55:30

about the world of 1984 George Orwell's novel. Is

55:34

that things change and you can't

55:36

reference the past and you just have to live in

55:38

this blur of affirmations in the moment with no continuity.

55:41

But social media and replies and posts

55:43

and so on. What that

55:46

does is it points

55:48

out that we have not always been at war with

55:50

Eurasia. Right? We used to be at

55:52

war with Eurasia. Now we're at war with East Asia.

55:54

A year ago you were saying Eurasia is the enemy.

55:56

Now you're saying East Asia is the enemy or whatever,

55:59

right? Community notes

56:01

is very powerful in many ways

56:03

on x on twitter but

56:06

when people if the media

56:08

would talk about covered they're gonna get

56:10

hammered for reversing position without acknowledgement. And

56:13

they just get the common cover they have to

56:15

disable comments right but then other

56:17

people repost it with comments right they

56:19

repost that and allow comments right. So

56:25

it's wild. So

56:31

let's see here regarding kids and nonverbal yes

56:33

for sure this is my experience also my

56:35

three year old is super verbal. I've

56:37

heard as many as seven to ten hours a

56:39

day on tablets or phone even babies for one

56:41

year old luckily to homeschooling groups around here crushing

56:43

it with their families. And that's who

56:45

we hang out with you. I

56:48

did support a freedom and thanks for sharing your high

56:50

value wisdom thank you very much david i appreciate that

56:52

freedom and i can't donate. Seems

56:54

like suffering will be the only way people will learn. But

56:59

a lot of people would rather not. They'd

57:03

rather completely fail than learn anything. That's

57:12

right. Was it

57:15

now fat she was saying oh the six

57:17

six foot thing just kind of came out of nowhere. But

57:20

he's science everybody he's science

57:23

oh i gotta read. Rand

57:26

Paul's new book i guess him did not

57:28

new but book about him. The

57:32

Kennedy Kennedy guys I can't remember his name

57:34

the work out Kennedy guy Kennedy

57:37

guy and and his book on covert

57:39

is chilling and so is Rand

57:41

Paul's. Oh

57:44

no nothing's gonna happen no come

57:47

on. I mean I

57:49

can't even tell you the number of times

57:52

oh so and so is finally gonna get caught

57:54

for Nana. I

57:57

mean I don't think anything's gonna happen. anybody

58:00

who was the architect of any of this stuff. Because

58:03

it's funny you know like people used to say

58:05

like without the state will build the roads and

58:08

now the ultimate clinching argument and by the way

58:10

they've been largely killing it out there which is

58:12

great to see but. The

58:15

new argument is but without the

58:17

government who's gonna develop gain

58:19

of function bat coronavirus is to

58:21

infect human beings like that's not

58:23

gonna happen without the government. Can

58:26

you imagine trying to sell that to the general

58:28

population here you know give me a billion dollars

58:30

and i will try to

58:33

develop pandemic worthy gain of function

58:36

coronavirus bat crap. Yeah

58:39

go find me go fuck

58:41

me. Oh

58:45

my gosh. I

58:50

can finally apply for better paying jobs again because no

58:52

one is asking for a coof jab hashtag

58:55

so happy yeah. Well

58:57

people were fired from their jobs and then replaced

58:59

with illegal immigrants who'd never been tested for anything

59:01

and had no vaccination requirements I mean honestly it's

59:03

it's wild it's wild. All

59:08

right, let me see if I've got

59:10

any other questions else there. Did

59:16

they get anything right during covered lockdowns masks wet market

59:19

theory the jab six feet i think they were 100%

59:21

wrong. What

59:23

price are they paying for being wrong let's say they were wrong about

59:26

everything. Yeah

59:31

i don't know. Let's

59:34

see here. So.

59:46

What's gonna say i mean. I

59:48

did get a lot of things right over covered

59:51

not perfect i have a perfect track record i

59:53

don't think anybody does. But i

59:55

certainly did say that the very first time i heard

59:57

of it from a friend of mine in hong kong.

1:00:00

after I came back from doing my documentary in

1:00:02

Hong Kong, which you should totally see. It's a

1:00:04

great documentary at freedomain.com/documentaries.

1:00:08

And it's free. Did I mention it's free? It's free. It

1:00:10

cost me a lot though. If you ever want to

1:00:12

see me getting tear-gassed for taking

1:00:14

in an anti-communist protest, there you

1:00:16

go. But I told

1:00:22

everyone it was going to

1:00:24

be a huge deal. I

1:00:27

accepted the value, the

1:00:29

voluntary value, of not

1:00:33

socializing as much until we found out how dangerous

1:00:35

this thing was. I

1:00:38

accepted that and I will stand by that. And

1:00:41

I said that masks could be helpful

1:00:44

because it prevented you from touching your face and so

1:00:46

on. I don't think that masks have

1:00:48

turned out to be super helpful, but I mean, I

1:00:50

think everything else, I didn't take the VACs, my God.

1:00:53

And I also said that the

1:00:55

lockdowns were going to do far more harm than

1:00:57

any good they could possibly do. And I said this very early

1:00:59

on. I

1:01:02

don't know. It's funny because there is this rumor that I just

1:01:04

got everything wrong during VACs and all that kind of stuff. And

1:01:06

it's like, yeah, I mean, I didn't agree with

1:01:08

the government lockdowns, of course, but I mean,

1:01:10

I myself, obviously I myself, I

1:01:13

stayed home when this thing first hit because I didn't know

1:01:15

how bad it was going to be. Steph,

1:01:17

do you think the economy has improved since COVID? No,

1:01:20

no, it's worse. It's worse. I

1:01:22

mean, it's just debt, right? It's not a real economy. It's

1:01:24

a, it's

1:01:27

not a real economy. Steph,

1:01:35

today, June 9th, it's the last day of the

1:01:37

deal for Saudi Arabia taking payments in US dollars.

1:01:39

Only what short term and long term impacts should

1:01:41

we expect. Well,

1:01:43

it's not good.

1:01:46

It's not good. What made

1:01:48

you think COVID was going to be a big deal

1:01:50

compared to all other viruses that popped up? Because

1:01:57

it was so transmissible. It seemed to very

1:01:59

transmissible. First of all, they denied it was

1:02:02

transmissible. I think early on the Chinese government

1:02:04

said it's not transmissible, which is how you

1:02:06

know it is transmissible. Because

1:02:09

I accepted, or I believed, and I helped

1:02:11

make this whole video called The Case Against

1:02:14

China about how it came from a lab,

1:02:16

I believed that it had

1:02:19

been engineered for transmissibility, which means it was

1:02:21

going to spread like crazy. What

1:02:26

do you think of

1:02:28

people like James Corbett or Tim Poole who seem

1:02:30

to forego much philosophical thought? I mean,

1:02:33

I think they're both fine, but

1:02:37

they're not philosophers. I

1:02:40

mean, there's nothing wrong with what they're doing. I think they're

1:02:42

doing some good work and some great stuff, but

1:02:47

I mean, they're not philosophers,

1:02:49

so why would they do that, right?

1:02:54

You know, it's like saying, Steph,

1:02:56

why don't you do more surgery? It's like I'm not a

1:02:58

surgeon, right? So I'm not quite sure I understand the question.

1:03:13

But it is, I think it is kind of a reminder of just

1:03:15

how programmable and empty and

1:03:17

dangerous a lot of people are, right?

1:03:20

The square box on the wall says, hate these

1:03:22

people. And they're like, where's my pitchfork, man? Let's

1:03:25

hate these people. And

1:03:28

then no apologies. No, right? Yeah,

1:03:31

it's really dysfunctional. It's

1:03:33

really, really toxic in a lot of ways,

1:03:36

right? And

1:03:38

nobody can admit they're wrong. I

1:03:42

mean, this comes out of parents usually not admitting they're wrong.

1:03:52

All right. So

1:03:55

I'm going to end

1:03:57

on something that was economically interesting. I

1:04:00

thought was economically interesting.

1:04:06

This is an old Twitter thing where

1:04:12

somebody, Twitter books wrote, last book

1:04:14

that made you cry and somebody wrote University

1:04:16

Physics with Modern Physics 14th edition by

1:04:19

Hugh D. Young, Roger A. Friedman. And

1:04:22

then Roger Friedman wrote back and he said, no doubt,

1:04:24

tears of joy. I

1:04:27

don't know. Have you ever had to do something

1:04:29

where you're just not good at it, but you have to do it anyway?

1:04:32

Oh, that's horrible. That's a good one. The

1:04:35

good thing about getting older is you can outsource a bunch of stuff.

1:04:38

That seems really important. According to

1:04:40

Oxford Professor James E. Thoreld Rogers, the medieval worker

1:04:42

did not labor for more than eight hours in

1:04:44

a single day. The person

1:04:47

enjoyed anywhere from eight weeks to half the year off.

1:04:51

Enjoyed your talk with Connor Tomlinson. Do

1:04:53

you think you might start having talks and debates

1:04:55

outside this format again? I mean, I

1:05:00

would have no massive objection to it. All

1:05:02

right. 13 brutal life lessons. Nobody

1:05:05

teaches you the easy road will destroy you.

1:05:07

No work is beneath you. Be patient and

1:05:09

persistent. The more you give, the more you

1:05:11

get. No one owes you anything. You

1:05:14

quit, you lose, you fail. Success

1:05:16

is about removing the wrong things. Don't make

1:05:18

emotional decisions. You have to take risks to

1:05:20

win. How you treat others comes back

1:05:22

to you. Listening is more important than

1:05:24

speaking. Big time to learn who you are. Discipline

1:05:27

weighs ounces. Regret weighs tons. That

1:05:29

hits you in the fields, doesn't it? Discipline

1:05:31

weighs ounces. Regret

1:05:34

weighs tons. All

1:05:36

right. I'm

1:05:44

going to see if I can, this might be a little bit

1:05:46

of scrolling, but I think I can, I

1:05:48

think I can find it. Oh

1:05:55

yeah, the 50 years ago, Big Sugar quietly paid

1:05:57

three scientists to point the blame for

1:05:59

chronic disease at cholesterol and saturated fat.

1:06:02

It's pretty rough, man. It's

1:06:05

pretty rough. I'm

1:06:08

just going to see if I can... I love

1:06:11

this picture of a potato. If this can become vodka, you

1:06:14

can become anything you want to be. F-E-A-R.

1:06:19

Fear has two meanings. Forget everything and run

1:06:21

or face everything and rise. The choice is

1:06:24

yours. It's

1:06:26

not easy. Not easy to make

1:06:28

those decisions, right? Knowing when to run, knowing when to

1:06:30

fight is not easy. I've

1:06:34

had this experience in Montreal. Somebody says, my closest encounter

1:06:36

with the mafia is I went to a starkly empty

1:06:38

pizza place in Rhode Island once. They seemed utterly confused

1:06:40

that I wanted a pizza. It took 45 minutes to

1:06:42

make. They gave it to me for free and it

1:06:44

was the best pizza I'd ever had. Did

1:06:47

Joe Rogan ever apologize to you yet? No, no, no.

1:06:49

He's counting his money. He's counting.

1:06:51

It's well paid. Let

1:06:55

me just see here. I did. Yeah,

1:06:58

the Civilization... what is it? Seven was

1:07:00

announced today. The Civ series is sort

1:07:02

of like Ender's Game, but for management

1:07:05

rather than murdering aliens. Business school students who were

1:07:07

good at Civ 5 also turned out to be

1:07:10

better planners, organizers, and problem solvers in this small

1:07:12

experiment. Yeah, so part

1:07:14

of aging is this game is now too

1:07:16

complicated for me to learn the rules. It's why

1:07:19

I gravitate towards Dungeons and Dragons based games

1:07:21

sometimes, or the Doom games because I understand all

1:07:23

the weapons. Because at this point, it's like

1:07:25

let's say Civilization 7 comes out. I'm never

1:07:27

playing it because I just don't have the time

1:07:29

left on this mortal coil to learn massive

1:07:31

amounts of new rules. This

1:07:34

was good. The different ways you

1:07:36

abandon yourself. Saying yes when you're aching to

1:07:39

say no. Apologizing

1:07:41

to someone who owes you the apology. Digging

1:07:44

your heels in deeper when you know you're the one in the

1:07:46

wrong. Over explaining your

1:07:48

truth to someone who stopped listening long time

1:07:50

ago. Romanticizing the bare minimum.

1:07:53

Begging for basic decency. Chasing

1:07:55

people who do not want to be caught. Building

1:07:58

a life based on what you think looks good. But

1:08:00

not on what actually

1:08:02

feels good, ignoring your intuition, ignoring your

1:08:05

body, ignoring your needs. Contorting

1:08:08

and bending and breaking to fit in places you know

1:08:10

you've outgrown. Staying in a

1:08:12

relationship that has run its course. Not

1:08:14

allowing time for deep rest, running on fumes.

1:08:17

Staying quiet when someone disrespects you, refusing to allow

1:08:20

what already is. Lying to yourself,

1:08:22

never asking for help, never taking a

1:08:24

chance on yourself, never living up to your own

1:08:26

word, celebrating those who only

1:08:29

tolerate you. Wishing you were someone else. That's

1:08:35

good. That's

1:08:37

good. Alright,

1:08:44

let me see if I can find... It's

1:08:46

a long way down. It's

1:08:50

a long way down. Maybe

1:08:54

I can find it. Maybe I can

1:08:56

find it. Maybe I can't. Keep

1:09:01

bookmarking stuff. And I

1:09:03

never really get down

1:09:05

to sorting

1:09:08

it out. Am I fine to do it much

1:09:10

with it? But you know, I guess I can post

1:09:12

these bookmarks on my grave. Alright,

1:09:16

let me try. I'll try one more. One

1:09:18

more little thing here. One

1:09:21

more little thing. I love on X's half

1:09:23

the ads are like, guys

1:09:25

hugging lions with

1:09:27

massive muscles and Viking helmets and

1:09:30

it's like, you're manly man juice

1:09:32

for manliness. And

1:09:34

that was really something else. Really

1:09:40

something else. So

1:09:45

okay, I won't... I remember what it was.

1:09:49

I remember what it was. But yeah, I

1:09:51

think I must have skipped past it. Or maybe I

1:09:53

didn't bookmark it. Sometimes I missed.

1:09:55

So this

1:09:59

guy was saying... Let

1:10:01

me tell you how capitalism works kids. So

1:10:03

let's say you're a pharmaceutical company and you

1:10:05

develop a drug that

1:10:08

cures tens

1:10:11

of thousands of sick people and

1:10:14

it only costs you $10 per cure

1:10:17

to make. But

1:10:22

the illness or the ailment afflicts mostly poor

1:10:24

people and so you want to sell it for Poor

1:10:28

people can't afford the $15,000. Now

1:10:30

if you sell it for less you can actually get sued and

1:10:33

lose your job for

1:10:36

fiduciary misconduct. You

1:10:38

have a fiduciary responsibility as the CEO to

1:10:40

maximize shareholder value and if you sell

1:10:43

something that you could sell for more for

1:10:45

less then

1:10:48

you're going to lose your

1:10:50

job, get sued and things are going to go badly.

1:10:52

That's how capitalism works. So the poor people

1:10:54

don't get their cure and it

1:10:57

all goes to hell and people die by the

1:10:59

tens of thousands because profit. I

1:11:03

mean my gosh, my

1:11:05

gosh, my

1:11:08

gosh. That

1:11:12

is, it's hard to even know.

1:11:15

I hate that phrase and I apologize for

1:11:17

using it. It's hard to even know where to start

1:11:19

and how wrong this is. This

1:11:21

is just, I think this is just a troll aiming to

1:11:24

fear, uncertainty, doubt, suspicion, hostility and so on.

1:11:27

Oh, those tens of thousands of poor people

1:11:29

are dying because capitalism is like, okay, so

1:11:32

this is somebody who's not run a business

1:11:34

and they're looking at it from the outside.

1:11:36

Don't forget freedomain.com/little donation. A little bit

1:11:39

of a light donation day but we'll kick

1:11:41

it off with this, I think,

1:11:43

pretty good analysis. You let me know what you

1:11:46

think. So first of all, people

1:11:48

don't, it costs about a

1:11:50

billion dollars to develop a cure for anything, largely

1:11:52

because of regulations, right? Like in Canada,

1:11:54

I think it's in Ontario, but in Canada, the whole third

1:11:57

the price of your home is regulations and bureaucrats

1:11:59

and like it. the regulation regulators

1:12:01

and bureaucrats end up costing more than the

1:12:03

actual labor to build house and it's really

1:12:05

terrible right so. There

1:12:08

is no such thing as a cure that is developed. Where

1:12:11

there's not a solid business plan how we gonna sell

1:12:13

it. Right so nobody's gonna bother

1:12:15

going through the billion dollars to create the cure.

1:12:18

Because like in this guy's mind the cure

1:12:20

just magically. Appears and it

1:12:22

costs only ten dollars to make therefore you should only

1:12:24

charge eleven dollars for it looks like that's not even

1:12:26

remotely so if nobody can figure out how to sell

1:12:29

something it doesn't get made. I

1:12:31

mean when i was and i know this directly

1:12:33

right because i was in charge of a multi

1:12:36

million dollar budget in the software field and

1:12:38

when i. Would

1:12:40

want to build a new feature i want to build

1:12:42

a new interface i want to build. Something

1:12:45

i would have to do a cost benefit analysis

1:12:47

i would have to pull the clients see if

1:12:49

they were interested in it i have to make

1:12:51

sales projections here's how much we're gonna spend developing

1:12:53

say the web interface to my windows. App

1:12:56

and here's the demand for it here's much here's how much

1:12:58

clients estimate they'd be willing to pay his how long is

1:13:00

gonna take to amortize right what's the

1:13:02

r o i return on investment of what it

1:13:04

is you're spending. Now

1:13:07

some of it is just a labor of love like i just do

1:13:09

it on my own like you don't need

1:13:11

this level of 48 bit

1:13:14

audio quality with crazy mics

1:13:16

and like you don't need this level of audio quality

1:13:18

to listen to what i say. But

1:13:21

i like it i think it's like this just a

1:13:23

labor of love like the video quality as well like

1:13:25

i'm trying to get good video trying to get good

1:13:27

audio so that's just a labor of love stuff. But

1:13:31

in general in business you have to

1:13:34

spend so you know when i got raises for

1:13:36

30 or 35 employees

1:13:38

of mine i did so by creating a cost

1:13:40

benefit analysis here's the risk of them leaving here's

1:13:42

how much is gonna cost if they leave to

1:13:44

hire and train and right and just make it

1:13:46

cost benefits so you don't

1:13:49

just have a cure. And

1:13:52

have no way of knowing how to sell it that doesn't

1:13:54

i mean i don't even know what to say that's just so

1:13:56

beyond the pale that's just amateur hour

1:13:59

that's like. thinking you're really good at

1:14:01

managing real estate because you played Monopoly when

1:14:03

you were six. I don't even know what to

1:14:05

say about that, right? So the cure won't

1:14:08

exist if there's not a path to selling it. But

1:14:10

let's say that there

1:14:12

is a cure that is $15,000 that saves

1:14:14

people's lives. Well,

1:14:21

that's not actually that hard to sell because people will

1:14:23

give loans to poor people for $15,000 that they will

1:14:25

then pay off. Poor

1:14:28

people have cars a lot of times. Poor people have

1:14:31

little apartments that they bought. So

1:14:34

if a poor person, let's

1:14:37

say they can only pay back $1,000 a year for whatever reason, okay,

1:14:40

so they pay it back in 15 years

1:14:43

plus interest, whatever, whatever, right? So

1:14:45

there would be people who would lend money to that in

1:14:48

order for the poor people to stay alive because

1:14:50

the poor people would make more money staying alive and

1:14:53

therefore they would, I mean, other than just the emotional

1:14:55

benefit of staying alive, the poor people would make more

1:14:57

money. But the cure

1:14:59

was $15,000, poor people would be able

1:15:01

to afford it. You'd say, oh yes, but they don't

1:15:03

have that money. And it's like, yeah, you never heard

1:15:05

of layaway plans. You never heard of leasing. You never

1:15:07

heard of amortization. You've never heard of any of this

1:15:10

kind of stuff. Plus, of course,

1:15:12

there would be GoFundMe. There would be support. There

1:15:14

would be charities, all kinds of things.

1:15:16

Of course, the government would get involved in

1:15:18

order to do all of that sort of stuff.

1:15:20

So there'd be a lot of help that would come about. And

1:15:23

of course, as

1:15:25

time went along, the price would go

1:15:27

down, right? The price would go down

1:15:29

as the initial costs were paid. But

1:15:32

yeah, just creating these wild,

1:15:34

completely self-contradictory scenarios

1:15:42

is like an intelligence test. Like,

1:15:46

why would a company spend a billion dollars

1:15:48

to develop something they couldn't sell? And

1:15:52

I remember this way back in the day, right? Somebody

1:15:55

said, I was in a group with a group of friends, and

1:15:57

someone said, you know, the can of Coke is

1:15:59

$25. cents to buy, but the

1:16:01

ingredients only cost two cents. So

1:16:03

then it's an IQ test to say, well, are you

1:16:05

kidding me? They're making 23 cents. But they're like, no,

1:16:08

well, there's the cost of the cans, there's the cost

1:16:10

of the labor, the cost of the factories, and

1:16:13

the cost of taxes, and payroll, and research

1:16:15

and development, advertising. Like there's a lot of

1:16:17

expense. They don't actually make that much money.

1:16:20

Thank goodness somebody said that to me back in

1:16:22

the day, because when I was 11, that seemed

1:16:24

kind of... It

1:16:28

seems kind of obvious in hindsight, but it

1:16:30

was one of these things that just really changed

1:16:32

my mind long before, like I

1:16:34

was still a socialist back then because I was

1:16:37

just programmed and propagandized. And

1:16:39

so rich

1:16:42

people make money off the interest. Did

1:16:47

you just send a dollar to him? Maybe

1:16:50

you slipped a digit. It's actually 19 zeros

1:16:53

you need to put after that one. Just kidding. Just

1:16:56

kidding. It's 20. But

1:16:58

thank you for the thought, I suppose. What

1:17:00

if the miracle cure is in the tip of a flagpole?

1:17:04

Right. Right. Right.

1:17:07

Right. And so, and let's say that everything this

1:17:10

guy is saying is true, that there's this cure

1:17:12

that costs, that you're being

1:17:14

charged 15,000. First of all, you don't

1:17:17

charge what the market won't bear. Like if

1:17:19

nobody's going to pay 15, let's say the cure

1:17:21

is for everything that goes wrong

1:17:23

with everyone who's poor. Some illness hits only poor

1:17:25

people and they can't possibly afford 15,000, then you

1:17:27

will lower your price until

1:17:29

people can afford it. Right?

1:17:33

I mean, this is not complicated, is it? I

1:17:35

mean, I guess I could

1:17:37

say it's a zillion dollars an hour to

1:17:39

talk to me and it's like, well,

1:17:41

I don't exactly know what a zillion is, but it seems like

1:17:43

a lot. So people wouldn't pay

1:17:46

that, so it would have to lower

1:17:48

my price to the point where people

1:17:50

would pay. I mean, everybody

1:17:53

wants to sell everything they have. I mean, you'd love

1:17:55

to get paid a zillion dollars an hour, wouldn't you?

1:17:57

I would, but you. Get

1:18:00

what you negotiate so a

1:18:02

business that it only let's say

1:18:04

it only cost ten dollars to produce but they can't

1:18:06

sell it for fifteen thousand dollars. What

1:18:09

are they gonna do just not sell anything just

1:18:11

completely right off the entire billion dollar r&d cost

1:18:13

of that no they're lower their prices until people

1:18:15

can afford it. And

1:18:19

of course this guy could say well you know what you

1:18:21

have to do is you have to create a big charity

1:18:23

raise awareness and you know help subsidize these things for people

1:18:26

and you could do all that right. Right

1:18:32

no money in making a cure for cancer oh yes

1:18:34

there is massive money in making a cure for cancer.

1:18:37

You know there's massive money making a cure for

1:18:40

cancer. Just not in

1:18:42

treatment but. There's

1:18:45

massive money how do you make money. Buying

1:18:49

coins expensive yeah I mean I like the coins thing

1:18:51

but Google takes Google and Apple take their

1:18:53

30% from the coin so I don't end up with as

1:18:55

much as you think. Do

1:18:59

you think that these scenarios come about from

1:19:01

rejecting intellectual property as property the scenario is

1:19:03

accepted the right to the property in

1:19:05

its manufacture but not in its conception. No

1:19:08

the scenario is come about just because it's trials

1:19:10

is people wanting to create division and make people

1:19:12

angry and upset and unhappy and all that kind

1:19:14

of stuff so. Let's

1:19:19

see here. Yeah

1:19:23

there's massive money making so and the. Life

1:19:27

in sorry life and and health

1:19:30

insurance companies only make money when

1:19:32

you're not sick so they have

1:19:34

a massive incentive. To

1:19:36

create a cure for cancer or

1:19:39

to support a cure for cancer. I

1:19:43

mean just think of life insurance right you got a million

1:19:45

dollar life insurance payout if cancer takes you know the average

1:19:47

of seven or eight years off. The lifespan

1:19:49

of people then you

1:19:52

don't have to pay that life insurance you get more

1:19:54

payments for seven or eight years a massive massive. I'm

1:19:57

out of money in curing cancer. Steph

1:20:01

says Frank I just started dating a girl and

1:20:03

from what I understand she had a good childhood

1:20:05

her parents didn't verbally or physically abuse their kids

1:20:07

and seem to be very supportive yet she has

1:20:09

struggled with depression anxiety and perfectionism. What

1:20:12

kind of child things could have contributed to developing

1:20:14

these issues. Interesting

1:20:23

good see you let me

1:20:25

see. Anxiety

1:20:30

okay so let's

1:20:32

say she had a great childhood she

1:20:34

struggles with anxiety depression and perfectionism. Well

1:20:38

what's wrong with that. See

1:20:42

here's the thing there are these two

1:20:44

poles in life get ready for a rant there are these two

1:20:46

poles in life. I want

1:20:48

to accept myself and

1:20:50

I want to pursue mad excellence.

1:20:55

And you can't even choose one or the other. When

1:20:59

you recognize your potential you

1:21:01

have to be dissatisfied with

1:21:03

where you are. Lazy

1:21:07

people pursue self acceptance workaholics

1:21:09

pursue excellence but you have to balance the

1:21:11

two of course you have to accept yourself

1:21:13

and be happy with who you are and

1:21:15

enjoy your own company and I get all

1:21:17

of that but you also have to be

1:21:19

dissatisfied. With where you are because

1:21:21

you want to do better do you

1:21:24

think somebody gets to win a gold medal. At

1:21:27

the olympics because they just practice nothing but

1:21:29

self acceptance and happiness with

1:21:31

where they are no. I

1:21:36

mean I'm very happy with myself

1:21:38

I think I've made good choices in a

1:21:41

very complex realm and I produce

1:21:43

maximum philosophy that the world can handle right.

1:21:46

You don't want to you don't want to have

1:21:48

a pill so big it chokes people right so

1:21:50

I produced the maximum philosophy and there's a lot

1:21:52

of stuff that's late into what I do that

1:21:54

will become more parent is a century's go by.

1:21:57

But I produce maximum philosophy that the world can handle

1:21:59

at the moment. moment without nailing me to

1:22:01

a tree. So I think I've done

1:22:03

a good navigation. Thank you for your help and

1:22:05

support, freedomain.com/donate. But I think I've done a reasonably

1:22:08

good job of that, and I'm quite satisfied with how I've

1:22:10

approached that. So

1:22:13

yeah, I'm happy with what I've done.

1:22:15

I'm happy with myself and,

1:22:18

and, and I continually want to do

1:22:20

better. So I'm in

1:22:22

love with who I am and

1:22:24

I'm in more passionate love with who I can be.

1:22:29

But when I say I have

1:22:31

more potential to manifest, I have to have

1:22:33

discontent with where I am. Because

1:22:35

without being discontented with where you are, can you

1:22:37

progress? If some guy is 300 pounds and says,

1:22:39

I'm perfectly happy with my body, he ain't going to

1:22:41

die. And

1:22:45

our potential is always the maddening

1:22:47

ideal that we will chase that

1:22:49

accelerates the faster we chase it, but we can't

1:22:51

stop chasing. That's just

1:22:53

the reality of it. It's a train we won't catch,

1:22:55

it's out of the seagull. It's running faster to

1:22:58

catch up a train that accelerates the faster I run. The

1:23:02

chasing is the excellence. You never catch it.

1:23:05

That's never going to happen. I'm never

1:23:07

going to do a perfect show. I

1:23:10

do as good as I possibly can. And

1:23:13

then I up the standard every

1:23:15

single show, every like nine,

1:23:18

10, 11, 12 times a week. I

1:23:21

up my standard. Do I reach it? Nope.

1:23:23

Do I do a perfect show? Nope. But

1:23:26

damn it, I'm not resting on my laurels. I think

1:23:28

that's fair to say, isn't it? I'm not doing the same

1:23:30

shows I did 20 years ago. I'm not repeating things. I'm

1:23:32

not one of the political talking

1:23:34

heads who just keeps going over

1:23:36

the same ground and plowing the same field and planting

1:23:39

the same crops. No matter what, no matter

1:23:41

how many crows of misinformation

1:23:43

take away your seedlings. I

1:23:45

mean, I'm trying new things all the time. I

1:23:49

mean, I'm writing novels. I'm

1:23:52

doing voice chats rather

1:23:54

than text only live streams. Right?

1:23:57

I wrote the whole book on Peaceful Parenting.

1:23:59

which is a huge challenge. I'm

1:24:03

doing lots of different things. Paid

1:24:06

call-in show. I'm doing lots of different things.

1:24:08

Always trying new things, new approaches. How

1:24:10

often do I repeat my arguments? I

1:24:12

mean, this argument about you go to

1:24:14

daycare, your body experiences that as being

1:24:17

sold into slavery, that's totally new, totally

1:24:19

new. And every show

1:24:21

I try to create something new that

1:24:24

is of value. Because if you get

1:24:26

that eye rolling feeling that you've heard

1:24:28

all this before, I've utterly failed in

1:24:31

my potential. And love Harry Brown,

1:24:33

Brown with an E, but he

1:24:35

had like five stories he would trot out every

1:24:37

single time. And

1:24:40

I can't do it. I can't stand it. When

1:24:43

I'm repeating myself, I'm generally

1:24:45

on autopilot. Now, if it's been a long

1:24:47

time, if it's been years

1:24:50

since I told the story and I mentioned that I've said

1:24:52

it before, I can do it again. But I can't just

1:24:54

do the same stuff. I can't have stimulus response. I can't

1:24:56

be, well, here's the input, here's the output. I've

1:24:59

done entire shows about the dangers of daycare. I

1:25:01

wrote a novel half of which was involved with

1:25:03

the daycare generation, but I needed to have something

1:25:05

new to say about daycare tonight or

1:25:08

today, because otherwise I can't stay awake and neither should

1:25:10

you. It's gotta be new. I

1:25:14

have to be satisfied with what I've

1:25:17

done and dissatisfied

1:25:19

at repeating it. I

1:25:23

have to like who I am, but love

1:25:25

who I could be. Otherwise, there's no

1:25:27

continuous improvement, and continuous improvement

1:25:29

is essential in the

1:25:32

pursuit of excellence by definition. And

1:25:34

let's say I do 1% better shows every time I do

1:25:36

a show. My show's doubling quality

1:25:38

every couple of months. There's

1:25:41

this kind of cumulative improvement is insane.

1:25:45

It's like compound interest. It's a force that's stronger

1:25:47

than strong atomic forces. It's

1:25:51

stronger than the power of self-delusion that seems to fire

1:25:53

the furnace hearts of most people on the

1:25:55

planet with two legs. So

1:26:02

what the hell is wrong with perfectionism?

1:26:05

And perfectionism is going to come with some anxiety. I

1:26:07

want to do a better show. That

1:26:10

means I'm not chewing the same crap I've

1:26:12

chewed before. I'm not saying the same words

1:26:14

I've said before. I'm going on the edge.

1:26:17

I'm surfing the perimeter. I'm doing the maximum

1:26:19

that I can do, which means I'm constantly

1:26:21

in danger of screwing it up. I'm

1:26:24

constantly in danger of failing. I'm constantly in danger of not getting it right.

1:26:27

Because the only way to get things right is to keep doing

1:26:29

the same things you already know how to do, but that means

1:26:31

that you're stagnant. I always have

1:26:33

to have in the show the possibility of failure.

1:26:36

Of course. Otherwise, there's no

1:26:38

chance of success. I don't consider myself

1:26:40

successful because I know how to climb stairs. I

1:26:43

mean, I learned how to climb stairs when I was a year and a half

1:26:45

or two years old. So I know

1:26:47

how to do that, but can I consider myself successful? Oh,

1:26:49

I'm so good at climbing stairs, man. That's all I need

1:26:51

to do today. Time to take to the couch. So

1:26:57

maybe, just maybe, Frank,

1:27:00

maybe this girl has

1:27:02

truly God-given potential. And

1:27:05

she gets a sense of that deep down. And

1:27:09

she's incredibly dissatisfied or somewhat dissatisfied

1:27:11

because she gets a sense, a dim sense

1:27:14

of how far she is from

1:27:16

her potential. I

1:27:21

remember many years ago listening to

1:27:23

an interview with a world famous golfer. He said, yeah,

1:27:25

I was working in a factory. I was like a

1:27:27

foreman or I did something above

1:27:29

the actual hand-to-hand work. I was making like

1:27:31

60K a year. And all my friends

1:27:34

kept saying to me, man, you're such a good golfer. What? Just

1:27:36

go play golf. Like, what are you doing here? What are you

1:27:39

doing here, man? Right? Good will hunting style. Like,

1:27:41

what are you doing here? You've got so much potential.

1:27:44

What are you doing here? Man, if

1:27:46

I could play golf like you, you couldn't... Well,

1:27:51

I was yesterday for reasons I won't even

1:27:54

get into. My daughter and I

1:27:56

were hunting two chickens in the woods. Really

1:27:58

thick woods, man. It was... tough work. I got

1:28:01

scratched to hell at it myself. We

1:28:03

were hunting two chickens in the woods, deep woods. And

1:28:06

we went totally primal, totally primeval. It

1:28:09

was great. I was like, Lord

1:28:11

of the Flies stuff. And anyway, in the

1:28:13

middle of the deep woods, I found two

1:28:16

golf clubs. Wouldn't you love to?

1:28:18

I mean, they'd love to know. Why are there two golf

1:28:20

clubs deep in the middle of the woods in the middle

1:28:22

of nowhere? Why? Why? Why? Makes no

1:28:24

sense. I'll never know. It tortures me. I said,

1:28:27

I'll never know. So yeah,

1:28:31

maybe she's got amazing, incredible,

1:28:33

fantastic potential. And

1:28:35

she's getting a real sense of that. And

1:28:38

so she's been stimulated

1:28:41

to growth with dissatisfaction

1:28:43

of where she is. Right?

1:28:46

Nothing wrong with that. Nothing

1:28:49

wrong with that. Selling

1:28:56

a one-time pill makes nothing next to selling

1:28:58

you a lifetime prescription as a

1:29:00

treatment every month in the next 30 to 50 years. What

1:29:05

are you talking about? Oh,

1:29:09

my gosh. You guys, come on. You

1:29:11

got to stop doing this low-rent stuff. Selling

1:29:15

a one-time pill makes nothing next to selling you a

1:29:17

lifelong prescription as a treatment every month in the next

1:29:19

30 to 50 years. But,

1:29:23

oh, my God. No, come on. You

1:29:26

got to do better than that. So okay, let me

1:29:28

just ask you this. Let me ask you this. Okay. You

1:29:30

have a medical problem. Some guy comes along and

1:29:33

says, well, I can send you one. I can

1:29:35

sell you one pill for

1:29:37

$1,000 going to cure you forever, or you can

1:29:39

spend $100 a month for the rest of

1:29:42

your life. What do you want? What

1:29:44

do you want? Come

1:29:47

on. Now, if the

1:29:49

government's paying or whatever, I don't know who cares, right?

1:29:52

Then that's not a free market situation. Do

1:29:54

you want a $1,000 pill that cures you forever

1:29:57

or a $50 pill for the rest of your life every month?

1:30:01

Of course you don't want the thousand dollar bill in fact you

1:30:03

can borrow the money to pay the thousand dollars gonna cost you

1:30:05

much less than fifty dollars a month for the rest of your

1:30:07

life. So

1:30:10

you're thinking about the manufacturer but in a free

1:30:12

market situation it's not the manufacturer who wants to

1:30:15

make money that dominates the interaction it's the needs

1:30:17

of the customers. Stop

1:30:21

putting out misinformation. Think

1:30:24

through things. Think through things. What

1:30:27

does the customer want? What

1:30:31

does the customer want? That's what determines

1:30:33

the situation. Right?

1:30:40

Don't put out stuff without thinking it through. It's bad. You're

1:30:44

peeing in the pool party. You

1:30:47

are putting out an environmental title. You're

1:30:50

putting out a business. You're putting

1:30:52

out a business. You are putting out

1:30:54

an environmental toxin called unintelligent

1:30:57

stuff and you're smarter than that because you're in

1:30:59

this you've got to think through things. Even

1:31:08

when you fail it only serves to make you better. E.G.

1:31:11

your I was wrong about series it otherwise show it also showcases

1:31:13

humility and how not to dig your heels in. I

1:31:16

don't have a standard call perfection in

1:31:19

result but in process. Step

1:31:22

I'll say again you always fresh always new always original

1:31:24

that's why I keep coming back you also

1:31:26

learn and change for instance dropping politics you are an

1:31:28

inspiration for me I will always talk about something new

1:31:31

and interesting with friends and coworkers. I

1:31:33

told you that over the last eight years I've stopped

1:31:35

listening to everyone else the YouTube losers who are skirting

1:31:37

the vague YouTube terms of service chasing growth and self

1:31:40

censorship to keep the channels up. The

1:31:43

one pill will be a million dollars. Thank

1:31:46

you for the tip the one pill will

1:31:49

be a million dollars. No.

1:31:54

Oh my gosh. What

1:31:57

are you talking about. What

1:32:01

will the price of the pill be?

1:32:04

Will it be a thousand dollars? Will it be a million dollars?

1:32:06

What will the price of the pill be? Come on, people. Let's

1:32:09

do some Econ 101. What

1:32:11

will the price of the pill be that cures

1:32:14

you so that you don't need monthly

1:32:17

pills for the rest of your life? What

1:32:20

will the price of the pill be? The

1:32:28

price of the pill will be the

1:32:31

maximum the customers are willing to pay in

1:32:33

volume. Right?

1:32:39

The pill will be the maximum the customers

1:32:41

are willing to pay. So

1:32:43

you do think that there's some value embedded in the

1:32:45

pill? There's no value embedded in the

1:32:47

pill. If you're suicidal,

1:32:49

the pill is like you'll pay to not

1:32:51

take it because you want to die. Right? So

1:32:55

there's no innate value in the pill, right? You understand

1:32:57

that, right? There's no innate value in the pill. The

1:33:02

pill will be sold for

1:33:05

whatever the maximum is that

1:33:08

people in volume are willing to pay. There's a sweet

1:33:10

spot. You understand? If you undercharge, you lose money.

1:33:14

If you overcharge, you lose money. So

1:33:17

trying to find out the right price to charge

1:33:19

is complicated. But

1:33:23

when you can't force people to pay for things, you have to woo them

1:33:25

into paying for things. Right? So

1:33:30

what is the objective value of what it is that

1:33:32

I do? You

1:33:34

think the pharmaceutical will sell it to you. They own the

1:33:37

government to ensure they get what they want. In the free

1:33:39

capital system, of course, customers decide, but we are in a

1:33:41

late state fascist, and the point is we don't get the

1:33:43

choice. Yeah, sure. Okay, but then

1:33:45

talk about coercion and fascism.

1:33:49

Don't talk about price in markets. If

1:33:52

it costs a million bucks, then people may well look at

1:33:54

the daily five-cent pill for 30 to 50 years and be

1:33:56

like, I'll just do that. Right, but James,

1:33:58

if it costs a million dollars, then you can't do it. million

1:34:00

bucks, it will never be developed. Right?

1:34:05

I mean, just try this. Try

1:34:07

this. Honestly, you don't believe me.

1:34:09

Try going to investors and say, I want to

1:34:11

build an average car and sell it for a

1:34:13

million dollars. They'll laugh at you.

1:34:15

They won't fund you and it'll never happen. So

1:34:18

the pill that costs a million bucks won't even

1:34:20

exist. You're talking about something that just won't exist.

1:34:30

Stop. And this is in general, right? And I need to be

1:34:32

reminded that this from time to time too. But yeah, stop putting

1:34:35

labels on things that can't possibly happen. Because

1:34:39

what you do is you discredit philosophy

1:34:41

by creating theoreticals that can't ever happen.

1:34:45

Teaching people the value is subjective is one of the

1:34:47

hardest economic ideas to teach people. Right.

1:34:50

So what is the value? What is the economic

1:34:52

value of what I'm doing today? It

1:34:54

is based on the tips. Is

1:34:57

there a magical mystical value? No,

1:35:00

it's really a million dollars for

1:35:02

an hour and 40 minutes of

1:35:04

my thoughts. It's a million dollars.

1:35:06

I'm underpaid by tips. Take

1:35:10

it away from a million dollars. I'm underpaid. Like, what

1:35:12

does that mean? It doesn't mean anything. What

1:35:16

am I worth for the time

1:35:18

that I spend doing the live streams? Economically,

1:35:20

what am I worth? All this philosophy. What

1:35:22

am I worth? I'm

1:35:25

worth what? What you donate. I can remind you. Say

1:35:28

it's important and it is important and it's

1:35:30

honorable and I think it is honorable. But

1:35:33

what am I worth? I'm worth what

1:35:35

you voluntarily agree to donate.

1:35:40

There's no other X value. Now I

1:35:42

can say, well, I want donations to increase and

1:35:44

that I sometimes do want to need that. Okay.

1:35:48

Because, you know, I've had to live on less

1:35:50

than when I was bigger.

1:35:52

So I can do things to, you

1:35:54

know, provide some benefits, provide some incentives

1:35:57

or whatever. But

1:35:59

what am I worth? I'm worth what you decide

1:36:01

to donate. That's it. There's

1:36:04

no other ghost price tag that I'm worth so much

1:36:06

more than it's like, no. Yeah. You're

1:36:08

worth what you negotiate. You know,

1:36:11

you, you might want a genius

1:36:13

reaching and you might want a

1:36:15

genius Nietzsche reading supermodel with

1:36:18

big tits, right? Okay. You

1:36:20

can get something like that. Good for you, man. But

1:36:24

you end up with who you are willing to be with.

1:36:31

Having too high an estimation of your own

1:36:33

value is usually, usually,

1:36:35

well, almost always it

1:36:38

is self-sabotage to have too high estimation of your

1:36:40

own values. The case for me too. Like

1:36:42

if I said, well, I'm worth a million dollars a

1:36:44

live stream and I'm enraged that I

1:36:46

don't get that. It's like, well, then my life stream suck and

1:36:49

you donate less. Former self-sabotage, right? Cause

1:36:51

I'm entitled and I'm angry and I'm, you know,

1:36:53

frustrated and, and, you know, that's no good, right?

1:36:56

That's no good. I have to provide value and

1:36:59

you're the final determinant of the value that I

1:37:01

provide. You and

1:37:03

you alone decide the value. I don't decide

1:37:05

it. I don't

1:37:07

decide the value that you provide to me. At

1:37:11

all. You are the

1:37:13

fundamental determinant of how much economic, maybe I

1:37:15

say other value, whatever soft values, but in

1:37:18

terms of, you know, bills to pay and employees and

1:37:20

so on, you are the final determinant of

1:37:23

the economic value of what I'm doing. And

1:37:28

I'm worth so much more doesn't mean anything.

1:37:35

I deserve more. It's like, what if I don't even

1:37:37

know what that means that that's like there's some platonic

1:37:39

dollar sign hanging over your head that, you know, if

1:37:41

you're willing to work for a hundred thousand dollars a

1:37:44

year, or you're willing to work for $50,000 a year,

1:37:46

that's what you're worth. Right?

1:37:49

That's what you're worth. It's

1:37:58

like when society was paying thousands of dollars. to

1:38:00

go see messy kick a ball, society values kicking

1:38:02

a ball and not philosophy. And

1:38:04

I love society for that. I

1:38:08

love society for that. I love

1:38:10

the fact that society pays

1:38:13

entertainers tens of millions

1:38:15

of dollars or sometimes hundreds of millions of

1:38:17

dollars a year and

1:38:20

philosophers require on relative,

1:38:22

relatively, I'm not, I mean, thank you

1:38:24

for the support, but relative, obviously relatively,

1:38:26

relative to hundreds of millions of dollars

1:38:28

a year, relatively paltry donations. Beautiful. I

1:38:31

love society for that. And I in fact don't even

1:38:33

really want that to change too much because I

1:38:37

am happy with my level of care and

1:38:39

concern for society. I don't particularly

1:38:41

want it to go up. So I'm

1:38:43

relatively happy that the majority of

1:38:45

my audience abandoned me when I moved one website

1:38:47

over. Fantastic. So

1:38:49

then I don't have to agonize about what's happening

1:38:52

to the majority of people. Right?

1:38:55

Because I will not care for

1:38:57

people more than they care for me. That's a recipe

1:39:00

to just be exploited. So

1:39:03

the fact that society values,

1:39:05

he kicks a ball, he bounces a ball,

1:39:08

he swings a club, he

1:39:11

swings a bat. Let's give him tens

1:39:13

of millions of dollars. Like fantastic. Beautiful.

1:39:16

Beautiful. So I am released

1:39:19

from obligation to protect you. I

1:39:24

am released from obligation to put

1:39:26

myself at risk in order to protect

1:39:28

you. Right?

1:39:34

I mean, to me, it's the, here's the analogy, right? So here's

1:39:36

the analogy is that

1:39:44

there are a bunch of soldiers in a country surrounded

1:39:47

by hostile enemies and everybody wants

1:39:49

to voluntarily give their money to

1:39:52

baseball players and porn stars, not the soldiers who protect

1:39:54

them. It's like, okay, then you won't really have

1:39:56

any soldiers. And when you get invaded, you're like, okay, I'm

1:39:59

going to get you. educated, kicking soccer balls

1:40:01

at the invaders will not

1:40:03

save you. So society learns, this

1:40:05

is where you want to put your resources.

1:40:07

You want to put your resources in

1:40:10

entertainers who propagandize and program you

1:40:12

to the detriment of your

1:40:14

civilization. You want to give your money to

1:40:17

people who bounce and dribble balls because you

1:40:19

want to have thrills, spills, and chills without

1:40:21

having to get off the couch, and

1:40:23

you will give your money to people

1:40:26

who promise political solutions that never really

1:40:28

materialize. And you want to do all of this, right?

1:40:31

Okay, so then I wish

1:40:35

you the best, but I'm out of it. I

1:40:38

tap out, right? I tap out because that's where you want to...

1:40:40

Not you guys, right? Obviously,

1:40:42

right? I

1:40:48

don't have to feel

1:40:51

an obligation to protect those

1:40:54

who don't value the protection

1:40:56

of philosophy. Quick question. Quick

1:40:59

question. Quick question. Oh,

1:41:05

sorry,

1:41:07

let me just get your comments here. The

1:41:10

old debate on spending tax money on art, no

1:41:12

one, much once, versus sports teams, films, and television,

1:41:15

which many more do want. It's an episode of

1:41:17

Yes Ministering, yeah? Society

1:41:19

is paying like $300 for Jordan sneakers but won't

1:41:21

donate to their philosophers or buy books. Society

1:41:26

says I did a call in with Steph in February. My

1:41:29

quality of life has improved dramatically. I

1:41:31

appreciate that. Thank you.

1:41:35

The football obsession is sickening, and I'm with you,

1:41:37

Steph. Pop-bellied, bearded t-shirt wearing fans taking off their

1:41:39

hat and tearing up, tearing up during the national

1:41:41

anthem while the USA has bombed and

1:41:43

slaughtered people, yeah. Has

1:41:47

the world... ...gotten

1:41:54

crazier or saner since I

1:41:57

was deplatformed? I

1:42:00

mean, now is a pretty big influence on helping

1:42:02

keep the world sane, right? Taking

1:42:09

out the philosophers is the mark

1:42:12

of a fading civilization,

1:42:14

right? In

1:42:17

the future, these shows will be studied thoroughly. I think the

1:42:19

unpublished call-ins will be worth a lot of bitcoins in the

1:42:21

future. Yeah, yeah, I think so. I

1:42:24

think so. All right. Any

1:42:26

other last comments, questions, issues before we sign off?

1:42:28

Any other last donations? Free to mail.com/donate. Yeah, it's

1:42:30

gotten crazier. Of course it has, right? Of course it

1:42:32

has. You know, they keep

1:42:35

saying society's getting better and better. More of this and more

1:42:37

of that will make it better and better. And it's like,

1:42:39

okay, so is there more free speech or less free speech

1:42:41

than there was 15 years ago, right? So

1:42:46

yeah, there's a price to be paid for not

1:42:48

defending your philosophers. Society

1:42:51

pays a huge and awful

1:42:53

price for not protecting

1:42:55

its philosophers. It's

1:42:57

really, really sad. But

1:43:00

by the time the price shows up, right,

1:43:03

by the time the price shows up, it's

1:43:05

usually too late because

1:43:08

if society doesn't want to protect its philosophers,

1:43:11

then philosophers don't

1:43:14

want to protect society and

1:43:16

really can't, right? You can't, right? So

1:43:19

if society doesn't protect its philosophers, society

1:43:22

finds out what life without philosophy

1:43:25

becomes. Any recommended

1:43:28

readings? I've read most of your books. Yeah, I

1:43:30

mean, I was just starting to reread this the

1:43:32

other night. It's a book I've read a couple

1:43:34

of times before. Paul Johnson's Intellectuals, very good, very

1:43:36

good book. So you

1:43:38

can check that out. Any

1:43:41

updates on the Peaceful Parenting book, the actual book, you

1:43:43

could tie it to donations or pre-sales? Yeah,

1:43:45

I'm still half and half about a physical book, honestly. I've

1:43:49

been down this road before where people say they're desperate

1:43:51

for physical books, and then they

1:43:53

don't buy them. And it's a lot of work to make

1:43:56

a physical book. I'm just waiting on the cover.

1:43:58

I'm just waiting on the cover. did the just poor

1:44:00

cover, very kindly agreed to do

1:44:02

the cover for Peaceful Parenting, and it

1:44:05

should come in next week. And then we can, I

1:44:08

think it'll probably go. And of course, I'm working

1:44:10

on a shortened version as well. So that's a

1:44:13

big job. But

1:44:16

yeah, if you've got access to the Peaceful Parenting book, you can

1:44:18

share it with whoever you want. Don't worry about it. They don't

1:44:20

need to donate. Just you can share it with whoever you want.

1:44:23

So go for it. All right. And of course, if

1:44:25

you want access to the Peaceful Parenting book before the final thing comes

1:44:27

out, you can go to

1:44:29

freedomain.com. No, actually, sorry, you

1:44:31

have to go to freedomain.locals.com. Would

1:44:34

you sign the books? Maybe, maybe,

1:44:37

but then they've got to

1:44:39

be shipped to me. I've got to sign them, then I've got to

1:44:41

ship them out. I don't think that's a

1:44:43

particularly good use of my time unless I charge a

1:44:46

huge amount, which doesn't feel quite right. And I appreciate

1:44:48

that. But all

1:44:50

right. All

1:44:57

right. So don't forget

1:44:59

freedomain.com. Donate, of course. And

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don't forget to use the promo code

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You can try it out for a month for free. And

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FDR, urael.com/TikTok

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1:45:18

I'd really appreciate that. Doing all right. Doing

1:45:20

all right. I would pay, you are a legend. Yes,

1:45:22

but I sort of have to figure out the time. Thank

1:45:25

you for the show, Steph. I donated for the Friday Night Skype

1:45:27

show. I joined late today because I was feeling nauseous. Thank you.

1:45:29

Well, I hope you feel better and I'm sorry that you're feeling

1:45:31

unwell. That's not fun. Not

1:45:34

a lot of fun. All

1:45:36

right. Yeah. I mean,

1:45:38

everybody thinks they can live without philosophy.

1:45:40

All societies think that philosophers are uncomfortable

1:45:42

and inconvenient and it's just easier without

1:45:44

them. And so they ditch

1:45:47

their philosophers and yep, you can

1:45:49

blindfold, turn off your GPS and try to fly. And JFK

1:45:52

Jr. style, you kiss the

1:45:54

water in time. All right. Thanks everyone.

1:45:56

Have a wonderful day. Freedom and a cop slash if you

1:45:58

like to help out later. appreciated I will

1:46:00

talk to you guys on a Wednesday nights and

1:46:02

don't forget free domain comm slash call if you'd

1:46:04

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