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Good evening, everybody. Welcome to your Wednesday

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Night Live on June the 19th, June

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10th, the 19th, 2024. Hope

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you're doing well. Thank you for your

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indulgence and

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a little

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bit late tonight, but

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we're fine. It's just the usual

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tech garbage that

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runneth along

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with the

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world. All right. So

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I'm just going to, I'm just going

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to get a wee bit of backdrop of background

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video recording going here, just in case we need

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it. All

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right. Let's get that

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and let's get that. We

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don't really need any system audio. And

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let's do that. Let's do

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that. All right. So yes, so

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we are not in the studio, as you can

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see, but we are still remaining studious,

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not studio studious.

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Oh, no, that's not going to work. No,

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it's not going to work. Is it going to work?

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No, it's not going to work. All right. Well, we'll just have

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to use the recording that's because I got to keep switching back

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and forth to get to

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video recording tips for sure it's

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off. Yeah. No, I couldn't

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get into the studio. I was in the studio, but

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I'm just having trouble connecting to the internet. So,

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uh, I have to do this from elsewhere. No,

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sorry about that, but I'm sure we are fine,

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fine, fine, fine. All

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right. So

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I could do a rant.

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I absolutely, completely and totally could do a

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rant. If you

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would like hit me with the Y for the rant, the

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Y for the rant. Doth.

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Well, that's quite the high camera. Let me tell

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you. Quite the high camera. It's

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on top. It's up. Yes,

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for the rant. All right. Okay,

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so. I

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grew up in Toronto, but

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I have not been to Toronto in quite

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some time. I

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don't particularly like going into Toronto

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these days. I live, of course,

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as you know, outside of Toronto. And

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my wife wanted to go

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and see a play. Now, God

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knows she gets enough drama at home, but

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apparently she wanted professional drama rather

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than my amateur kind. So she

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said, let's go see a

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play. I'm like,

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all right. All

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right. I

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could do a play. What is the play? And

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she said, she said, some of

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the most dangerous words for a husband to hear in

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this or any other lifetime with regards to

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a play. She said, Lord

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above help me. She said, it's

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a one woman play. Vagina

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monologues. But I repeat

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myself, why would you need synonyms? So

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she said, it's

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a one woman play. And I said, one

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woman play in Toronto.

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Well, love

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on a run away. I made

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some vows. I'm

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cornered, trapped by

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my own integrity and my love for

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my wonderful wife. What's

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it about? Woman

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play. See, now it's not going to be about

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politics. What's

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it about? I ask my dear bride. She

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says it's a one-woman play

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in Toronto and it's

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about aging.

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It's about aging.

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Now I'm like, is

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this a love test? Have

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I done something to bother and upset you, other

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than having my

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career? And

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she said, no, I just think it would

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be really interesting. Then she said, really

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what to me is often the most dangerous phrase,

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she said, she said, honey,

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I've heard good things. Here

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we go. Here we go. A

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play in Toronto, one

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woman about aging and she's heard good

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things. Now when I hear heard good

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things, I hear sigh up, sigh

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up because nothing

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is natural anymore.

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Everything is for some intended effect

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or purpose or plan or decadence

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or decay or something, something.

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Yeah, no, I couldn't, I can't do female

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stand-up comedy because there's only so

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many jokes I can hear about vaginas. I

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just, I can't, I can't. So

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I'm like, okay, I said,

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I'm not super keen on going into Toronto, but

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I love you. So

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let's go. So we live outside

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of Toronto, not super far outside of Toronto

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and so what did

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we do? Well the play started at 2pm. So

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we left at

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noon. Now,

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I figure two hours can get you four-fifths of

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the way to Florida. So

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maybe, just maybe, we

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can get to a playhouse

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in downtown Toronto. Now, not right downtown. Not

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right downtown. So

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we leave it to. And we're chugging along. And

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as we approach the traffic

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void called Toronto, what happens?

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Well, lane closed.

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Also, lane closed.

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Also, exit closed.

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Why? Because apparently,

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infrastructure is like

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Voldemort for Toronto politicians. You can't

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say it, or

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you lose your soul. Wait. Sorry,

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they're Toronto politicians. They don't have souls to begin

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with. But if they did, and they said the

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word infrastructure, I can only say apparently this word

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because I'm not a politician in

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Toronto. Infrastructure is the

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enemy. And of course, I worked for

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a company many years ago that dealt

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with infrastructure, and the amount of deferred

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infrastructure improvements in Ontario

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was absolutely staggering. You

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can fix Toronto, or

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you can go and lasso Mars and

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bring it back for gold, cinnamon, and

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it's asteroids. So

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they've been understanding this, what I'm saying. And so all

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it is is patchwork. Now

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we can't fix your roads. We

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can paint them rainbow, but we can't fix

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them. So we're driving and

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we're driving. And we're like, hmm, it's a little slow.

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You know, we're not super hard from

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the subway. Now

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the subway, when I was younger, I didn't

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have a car in Toronto for very long,

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but if you, when I was younger, the

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subway was like... Like, FTL. Faster

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than light, it was hyperspeed. Because

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the subway, you got no traffic lights, you got

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no constructions, you just... The

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stars blur for you, hands solo, walking

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carpets you back, you just... You

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escape the silons, you jump all over the galaxy.

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When you're talking... The

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subway, you're talking light speed. Bypasses

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everything, underfoot, don't have to wait for

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anything, gone. You

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don't have the usual Toronto BMWs. I remember being in

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a... When I was doing my

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graduate degree, I remember being in Toronto,

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it was hailing. And

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the BMW driver was edging his way to

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turn, because Lord knows, we

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as pedestrians, please, by all means,

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Mr. Comfortable BMW driver, turn,

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we'll be happy with the hail. It's fine,

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enjoy yourself, the important thing is that you're

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comfortable. What is the difference between

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a BMW and

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a porcupine? The difference between

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a BMW and a porcupine

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is in a porcupine, the pricks are on

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the outside. So

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what happens? Well,

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we say, and we check the website of

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the theatre and they say, well,

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you might want to take, you might want

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to take the TTC, the Toronto Transit, you might want

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to take the bus subway

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because you won't believe it. There's

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a lot of construction around here and

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there's almost no parking. So

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we're like, okay, you know what? We've

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got time. It's

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only 40, we got an hour 20

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to just get on the subway and

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get to the play. No

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problem, we're set. So what

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do we do? Well,

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we get to the subway, we park

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our car, we

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walk to the subway and

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bad things begin occurring. So

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we go into the subway and oddly enough, We're

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not charged. Now

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again, I'm not a professional economist, but it seems

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to me that given that subways cost money to

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run, you might think about charging

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people to, I don't know, use

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them. But no, we just sail through. And

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then we walk down to the

10:18

subway and there's a big sign at

10:21

the bottom of the stairs that says

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the subway is closed.

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Now mind you, this

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is quarter

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to one on a weekend

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in Toronto. And

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the subway is closed. Why?

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Track maintenance. Now

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the subway is closed for many hours at night, but

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apparently you can't do maintenance because there are

10:48

ghosts down there that behead your maintenance worker,

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so you have to wait until a very

10:53

busy time when people actually need to

10:55

use the subway to

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fix the subway. You know how they try to

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repair the wing while the plane's flying? It's that

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kind of thing. Now

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one other thing that you

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could theoretically say if

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your subway is closed is

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you might have a sign not three

11:22

feet from the subway that's closed. You might

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have a sign, I don't know,

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in the parking lot. You might have

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a sign at the entrance, not after

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you go in and go down, two flights of stairs and go

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to the end of the... So then we're like,

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okay, when we can't get back on the highway because we've

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already gone off the highway and they say, no, no, no,

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the subway's fine. It's just one stop over.

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You've got to take a bus. You've just got to

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go through a bus, one stop over. So

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then we begin the

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Bataan Death March to

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the giant hallucinatory illusion slash mirage

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called the play. that we

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paid quite a lot of money to go and

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see. Now I am of the opinion that we

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should cut our losses, bail

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out and get drunk. My wife

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on the other hand, really

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wants to see a one woman play

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about getting older. Okay,

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love you, honey, honestly. And you

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know, she's right as often as snot, so what the

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heck? So we continue. So then

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they say, we,

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there's like three

12:27

TTC employees per square foot telling you to

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go to the shuttle buses, which are, well,

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you kind of need to take the subway to get to

12:36

the shuttle buses because they're about a football

12:40

field away. They're not in where all the

12:42

buses are. No, no, no, that would be

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crazy. What they are is outside

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the subway, down the road, diagonal across

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a busy street. That's where you get

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the buses. Now it would seem to

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me that given that they had about

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4,000 TTC employees telling you where to

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get the buses, you might want to

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take some of those TTC employees and use them to

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fix the track. But no, I'm

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sure that the union would have something to say about that.

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So you ever

13:08

have that thing, that dream, or sometimes a reality, you've

13:10

got a cataconnecting flight and you have eight minutes and

13:12

at the other end of the airport, and then there's

13:15

a bus and oh. So

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we get to the bus, we call out for the

13:24

bus that's just about to close its doors. And what

13:26

does the bus driver do? He

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closes the

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doors, goes off, oh, don't worry, there'll be another bus

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along here shortly. And

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I'm like, at this point, I'll take a trebuchet and

13:42

two mattresses strapped to my forehead just to

13:44

get to Toronto. Can't go back, can't

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go on. So

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we get on the bus, spit

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down on the bus, we get on the bus. And

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we tool. And

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the bus. all its windows closed. And

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things are not wildly positively aromatic.

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And we addressed the nines. Why? Because we're going

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to hear a single woman talk

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about aging for an hour and a half.

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So, it seems like

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the bus has an infinity. Like, it wants to

14:21

go straight, and in order to go

14:23

straight, it has to take three or four left-hand turns.

14:29

So, we get to the next subway, which

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is very busy, of course, because everyone's being

14:33

bussed into the air from the arse end

14:35

of everywhere. I think I saw a bus

14:37

coming in from Aldebaran and Beetlejuice.

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So, then we get to the subway.

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And we run to make sure

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we don't miss the subway, which,

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as it turns out, was somewhat

14:49

pointless. Why? Well, it was somewhat

14:51

pointless because the subway sat

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on its fat, wheelie ass

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for 20 more minutes. See, this is

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the thing. You know, TTC, if

15:02

you're listening, and maybe, maybe, maybe

15:05

you are. If

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you're going to bus people to the subway, it

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might be help way. It might be

15:12

helpful if the subway actually, I don't

15:14

know, moves. But

15:17

no, everybody's standing

15:19

around with their thumbs in their armpits.

15:25

And, pretty much, they

15:27

want to make sure that enough people get

15:30

on the subway that it turns

15:33

into a Japanese commuter black hole

15:35

and everybody disappears up each other's

15:37

asses and has a look around.

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Hey, now that our groins have been mashed together

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for 20 minutes, want to start a family? So,

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we get on the subway, and the subway

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finally, eventually, moves. Long

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story short, well, maybe a little late for that, but

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let's just say, long story short, we

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finally get out of the subway on King Street.

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Now we need to take a streetcar

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or a bus or an Uber

16:14

or a cab to go

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to what's called the Distillery District, which is

16:19

sounding mighty appealing to me because this is

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a long trip to take sober. Are

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there any streetcars coming?

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Yes there are. Yes

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there are. It's really

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quite a mashup. In fact, it

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looks like the streetcars have all been stapled

16:36

together like a giant centipede subway train on

16:39

the surface. So

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then, we're

16:44

looking for the 504 and

16:47

you have every 500 number,

16:49

including 511 billion, except

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for the 504. So we're

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like, well, we'll look for a cab. Can you find a

16:57

cab? Yes, except the cabs

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can't turn left onto our street and

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we're afraid of going diagonal because then if we

17:04

see the right streetcar, we can't get on there.

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Also because we're running to the subway, we don't have a

17:12

transfer. So now we'll have to pay for the streetcar, which

17:14

is supposed to be free because we were already on the

17:16

subway. That's fine.

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That's fine.

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So eventually

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the streetcar comes along and

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we get to the play 15 minutes

17:31

late and they don't

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let us into the play for another

17:37

five minutes. So we finally get one

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hour and seven minutes of a

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play for the kind of

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trek that you could probably get on

17:46

your fucking teeth and knees to

17:49

the South Pole or the North Pole.

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On the plus side, the play was

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really depressing. So,

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it was an odd to a stressful and appalling trip

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into Toronto, where

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the amount of human incompetence if

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attached to a nuclear generator could

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power the solar system.

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We finally get to the play now. It's not the

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playwright's fault, but

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a play about aging,

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could it be a little funny? Just a little. Just

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a little funny. Just

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a little funny. You know, there are some funny things about

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aging, and aging has its pluses, and I get all of

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that, but... The

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woman... Her gimmick was

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that the audience chooses a couple of different

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stories that are involved in the play, and

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someone chose DOG! And

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I'm like, oh no. Like you

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know the playwrights where you

18:57

just know, like whatever's gonna happen, it's gonna

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be fucking awful. Like whatever happens in the

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play, do you love

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someone, they get cancer? Do

19:06

you like your eyesight? Oh, sorry, you get blinded. You

19:09

like your health? Oh no,

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multiple sclerosis. Are

19:14

you finally getting close to your dad? Damn,

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bus! Hits him! No, no, bus wouldn't hit him,

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because it's going too slowly. Umm...

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Oh, an improperly elevated surgeon cuts into

19:28

him, and accidentally beheads him.

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So anyway, in the play,

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somebody said, they held a dog!

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Oh, here's a story about a dog! And

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you basically, with these kinds of playwrights, I

19:42

bring a crash helmet, and I just assume

19:44

the crash position, you know, on the plane,

19:46

where they say, well, in order to be

19:48

able to better identify your remains, and or

19:50

keep you edible in case we crash in

19:52

the Andes, you're going to need to assume

19:55

this position, right? Bring your

19:57

chairs to the upright position, this death,

19:59

this... So,

20:04

the playwright begins telling a story about

20:07

a dog. And

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I'm telling you, it was not more than six minutes before

20:12

the dog was completely

20:15

beheaded by a car. Oh

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my gosh. And this woman who

20:22

couldn't settle down and didn't have kids just

20:24

finds a wonderful lover in her sixties and

20:27

seventies and everything is perfect in this. Oh

20:32

my gosh. Should have just taken his

20:35

helicopter. No, I'm concerned

20:37

about incompetence in all engineering fields these

20:39

days. I'm not sure that

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a street god named despair.

20:44

Yeah, quite right. So

20:47

needless to say, needless

20:50

to say, I may,

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I just may not be imminently

20:55

going into this thing into

20:57

Toronto at any time

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soon. Neither to see a play nor

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to not see a play. Although I will say, and

21:05

I haven't been there since I was in my early

21:07

twenties, the distillery district is actually quite a lot of

21:09

fun. And

21:11

the play was fine. The play was fine. The

21:14

actress was good. The writing was good. It

21:17

was just, I could have used something. It wasn't

21:19

her fault about the TTC. I

21:21

could have used something slightly more elevating.

21:25

Not her fault. It's a good play. Well

21:28

written, good actress, but

21:30

it is really depressing. Makes

21:34

New York city look competent. Hey, hey, let's

21:36

not go crazy here. We're still sane ish.

21:44

You know, I gotta tell

21:46

your friends, I

21:49

don't think I'm in time. Tell me if I'm wrong. Tell

21:52

me if I'm wrong. I don't think I'm entirely romanticizing my youth.

21:58

But when I was younger. Shit

22:00

worked. It

22:03

worked. The trains... Doth

22:07

run. The buses doth roll.

22:11

You could get from A to B relatively

22:13

quickly. I

22:15

had a car in Toronto. Traffic

22:18

wasn't that bad. Things

22:22

are... falling apart faster

22:24

than a sandcastle under a tsunami. Just

22:26

wanted to point that out. The

22:30

centre cannot hold things FALL APART! On

22:35

the plus side, there was a little

22:37

bit more drama in the journey than there was in

22:39

the destination. So there was that excitement. And

22:41

if I'd just seen the play and

22:43

not run into the sandpaper on the

22:46

balls endless incompetence that characterises the modern

22:48

world, I wouldn't have had

22:50

this exciting story. And

22:52

Toronto? My

22:54

gosh. It was as close

22:57

to paradise when I was young as you could get in a

22:59

city. I mean, London when I was very little

23:01

was as close to paradise as I've ever been. Could

23:04

travel all over London. Perfect safety,

23:06

perfect comfort, perfect ease, everything worked.

23:08

The tube worked. And when I was

23:10

a kid in Toronto, and

23:13

as a young man in Toronto, and I

23:15

last lived in Toronto in my early thirties,

23:17

it was just beginning to fall apart. But

23:20

my God. I feel like the old

23:22

guy talking about the old world in 1984. My

23:24

God, kids. It

23:26

used to work. Stuff used to work. Everybody

23:32

was polite, everything was efficient. You

23:34

could get from A to B without going through

23:37

four different star systems of Z. Things

23:41

worked. Packages

23:45

were delivered, you could just pick them up. Your

23:53

water wasn't the

23:55

colour of Donald Trump's fake tan rinse

23:57

off. It

24:02

used to be that the only thing

24:04

that mattered was raw competence.

24:09

That's the only thing that used to matter, was raw competence. Now

24:12

I don't know, it's not competence that's driving

24:14

things, because competence doesn't drive

24:16

things, nothing drives anymore.

24:21

You say, I remember when shit worked, even in

24:23

the 90s it wasn't so bad, right? Yeah.

24:28

Somebody says, Toronto is the worst city in the world,

24:30

my opinion may be personal bias because I live here

24:32

and I've had a similarly terrible experience on a daily

24:34

basis, I'm sorry about your experience. Yeah. Well,

24:37

you know what they say, you can't go

24:40

home again. Somebody

24:47

says, I've heard a theory that we have our

24:49

attention divided so much nowadays and our attention span

24:51

is dwindling, the result is shitty products and experiences

24:53

in competence. No.

24:55

No, it's not that. It's not that.

24:58

It's just we have metrics other than competence. We

25:04

have metrics other than competence and

25:10

so we get a

25:13

society where things don't work, right?

25:19

We get a society where things

25:21

don't work. Because it

25:23

takes, I mean, if you're good at your job, and

25:25

I'm pretty good at my job, but if you're good at your job, you

25:28

realize with great humility exactly

25:30

how smart you have to be

25:34

for a

25:40

good job to be done. You have

25:42

to be super smart. It's the Pareto

25:44

principle, you know, like the square root

25:46

of any group produces half the output. Boy,

25:49

did you first notice things falling apart?

25:52

I don't know. I

25:54

don't know. But

25:59

the other thing too is... because it's largely...

26:03

So teenagers can't really get jobs

26:05

anymore, right? So you don't have

26:07

the competence filter of teenagers with

26:10

jobs. And so

26:13

there's a whole bunch of different reasons which we can go

26:15

into, some of which I've talked about before. But

26:17

yeah, it's going to get worse. It's

26:20

going to get worse. So

26:24

Toronto is, to

26:27

a large degree, dead to me. And it's a shame

26:29

because it's a wonderful city and I loved growing up

26:31

in it. And it was just

26:35

great. Just great. But

26:40

now, not so much.

26:43

Anyway, I mean, I wrote a whole novel about this, which

26:46

you should definitely check out called The Present. You can get

26:48

it at freedomain.com/books. Oh, by

26:50

the by, before I forget James,

26:52

freedomain.com/books doesn't go to freedomain.com/freedomain under

26:54

bar books. But if you could,

26:56

that would be great. So

26:59

yeah, yeah, yeah. And

27:02

none of this is accidental. It's a

27:05

controlled demolition, right? I

27:08

mean, you can't replace

27:10

capitalism if capitalism is working. So you

27:12

have to have capitalism not work. So

27:15

people are dissatisfied and frustrated with the system

27:17

they live under and therefore you can replace

27:19

it. Right?

27:22

The limb has to be diseased in order to be

27:24

amputated. So they

27:27

gotta fuck up the the the limb so

27:29

they can excuse the amputation.

27:36

But I'm

27:38

here for you, my friends. I'm

27:41

here for you questions, comments, issues, challenges,

27:44

problems. Somebody

27:49

Joe says my job is an insane asylum planning

27:51

to quit soon. None of the guys who didn't

27:53

qualify to do their jobs is like arguing with

27:55

crazy homeless guys. Yeah. Yeah.

28:03

Well, I mean, a lot of immigration just

28:05

relentlessly drives down wages. It gives the

28:07

working class no negotiating, right?

28:10

And it also is there to mask up

28:12

the effects of inflation, right? And

28:16

if you have any tips to help with

28:18

the show, I would really, really appreciate that,

28:20

just so you know what I'm working on.

28:22

I mean, I'm working hard

28:25

at the moment, and what

28:27

I am working on is

28:30

I want a version

28:32

of peaceful parenting that is about a third the

28:34

current length while retaining all the core arguments. Now,

28:38

you know me, I'm

28:41

about to wink out of existence because I'll say I'm

28:43

nothing if not concise. Okay, not the most concise guy

28:45

in the world, but it's important to be detailed

28:48

and precise. Less

28:51

than precise, often are opposites.

28:55

So I am about a third of

28:57

the way through the

29:00

peaceful parenting book, making it shorter.

29:07

Making it shorter. Which

29:12

is a lot of work, by the way. I don't

29:14

mean to overly cry

29:17

a river, but it is a lot of work

29:20

to shorten the

29:22

book. But when it is shorter, then

29:24

you can hand it out to people

29:26

and they don't

29:33

really have much excuse. Oh, I don't have time for this and

29:35

blah, blah, blah, right? So

29:39

I am working on that, and

29:41

that is consuming a

29:44

lot of my time. And

29:47

I should be done that in a week. And

29:49

next week I'm going to

29:52

continue the History

29:54

of Philosophers series. Are

29:58

you changing it or just cutting it? I

30:00

like the full version. You

30:04

are changing it or just cutting? Why

30:07

would I change it? I don't

30:09

quite understand. I

30:12

mean, it's an abridged

30:14

version, right? It's a shorter version.

30:17

And I said while retaining all the core arguments, I don't know

30:19

if you missed that. Maybe you did. You

30:22

know, it's funny. It's funny. If people don't listen,

30:24

they then respond as if they did. I

30:27

said I'm cutting it down to its

30:29

core elements while retaining all the essential

30:32

arguments or all the core arguments. And

30:34

then people are like, are you changing it? And it's like,

30:36

okay, but if you weren't listening, then

30:40

you weren't listening. That's fine. Anyway,

30:43

I just sort of wanted

30:45

to point that out. Oh,

30:47

people are funny. I'm

30:50

going to do two and two makes four. But you

30:53

have to remember the two and two make four. All

30:55

right. Yes.

30:58

So it is a lot of work, but

31:00

I do want to make it so that if I can get

31:02

it to maybe 125 pages, 150

31:06

pages down from 450, I

31:08

think that would be great. And then of course, if people

31:10

want the longer version, they want the more detailed arguments, they

31:12

want all of the proof, they can go to the longer

31:14

version. But I do want it to, so people get 400

31:16

plus pages. I'm like, oh, ain't nobody got

31:18

time for that. But on

31:20

the plus side, I can shorten it. All

31:27

right. I will not continue without tips. Just wanted to

31:29

let you know. I'm going to have to be assertive

31:31

on this. All right. Hey,

31:34

Steph, in the industry I'm in, there isn't

31:36

much demand for intense work. I

31:38

work from home and work multiple salary jobs at

31:42

once. I

31:46

consistently impress and satisfy my bosses. From my family, they

31:48

judge me for working multiple jobs, as if I've done

31:51

something immoral. I forget that since my managers are happy,

31:53

there's been no disservice to my work. Am I in

31:55

the wrong? Well,

31:58

that's an issue. Interesting question.

32:00

So if your managers are happy,

32:06

that's what matters. Like

32:09

you understand that people talk

32:12

about UBI, like it's some theoretical thing,

32:14

like universal basic income. I

32:17

would say, and you guys tell me what

32:19

you think, I think probably 60 to 70% of

32:21

jobs are bullshit

32:24

make work to

32:26

pad numbers. I

32:29

think there's like maybe 19 to 35 people who

32:32

are keeping the economy going and everyone else

32:34

is just filler and fat. So

32:39

most people's jobs are meaningless. In fact,

32:41

they interfere with other people's productive work.

32:43

They become like the persons from poor

32:45

luck. So UBI is

32:48

going on on a massive scale, particularly

32:50

for women and particularly in government work.

32:53

I mean, I remember working for a government agency in my

32:56

early twenties. They had something that needed

32:58

doing so they hired me while everyone else, and

33:00

it was like 90% women just

33:02

sat around and chatted and gossiped all day. So

33:05

UBI. All

33:13

right. I

33:17

lost my job yesterday. I have applied to about 10

33:19

or so companies. I'm not demoralized, but I am worried

33:21

about my future. I don't have the skills and money

33:23

to start my own business at the moment. I

33:26

feel quite lost. I've also considered changing fields.

33:28

Unfortunately, I can't retire on my crypto yet.

33:33

You tipped on free domain. Thank you, my friend. I appreciate

33:35

that. Well,

33:43

I would

33:46

recommend very strongly that

33:50

there's really only one productive approach to

33:53

getting a job these days. You

34:00

have to have to have to. You

34:07

have to work your networks. You have

34:09

to work your networks. You

34:15

have to work your networks. You

34:17

have to find people, contact people, people you

34:19

went to school with. You

34:23

have to do just about

34:26

everything that you can imagine in

34:30

order to try and get work. You

34:38

have to be shameless in your pursuit of

34:40

your contacts in

34:43

order to

34:45

be able to get work. You

34:51

can't just rely on sending out resumes, in

34:53

my humble opinion, right? Don't

34:56

do that. You

35:03

have to work your networks. Oh,

35:14

James sent me a message which has nothing to do with

35:16

the show. The

35:18

message is if you go to freedomain.com/books, it

35:21

takes you to a page that is not

35:23

freedomain.com/freedomain underscore books. So

35:28

yeah, you have to work your contacts. You have to phone people,

35:30

say, do you know anyone who knows anyone who could get me

35:32

a job? Anything like that. You have

35:34

to do that kind of

35:37

stuff. How do you handle the knowledge of

35:39

the ten words that would completely evaporate someone's built

35:41

up lies or narrative? I'm paraphrasing this concept you

35:43

have mentioned. So thank you for answering recent question

35:46

of mine in the hit me up threads. Donation

35:49

incoming. Well, thank you. I

35:51

appreciate that. How do you handle the knowledge of the ten words

35:53

that would completely evaporate someone's built up lies or narrative?

36:00

Okay, so let me give you an example. I'll give you

36:02

an example. So a friend

36:04

of mine years

36:07

ago was saying that

36:10

he married the wrong woman

36:13

and his friends and family mildly

36:17

warned him against her, but

36:20

he went ahead anyway, right? Thank you for the

36:22

tips. He went ahead anyway. Okay,

36:26

so here's your test as

36:28

the brilliant and lovely free domain listeners. Here's

36:30

your test. Your

36:33

test is what can you do or

36:36

what could you do if someone

36:38

you really cared about for some reason was gonna

36:40

go marry the wrong woman, right? So

36:43

someone you care about is gonna

36:45

go and marry the wrong woman. Let's say she's got a

36:47

temper, right? Cause that's kind of a common thing,

36:49

right? Let's say she's got a temper.

36:54

What can you do if he's not listening?

36:58

If he doesn't listen to you, what

37:01

can you do? What

37:05

are your options? Somebody

37:10

says, when I was looking for work, I would message people,

37:12

the message everyone I knew, nonstop, yeah, for sure. Confront

37:21

the woman in front of him, that you can trigger

37:23

her, yeah, that's good. That's

37:25

good. So

37:30

let's say I had a son and my son was going to marry a

37:34

woman who had

37:36

a problem with her temper. So

37:42

what would I do? Well, of course I would say, I think

37:44

she has a problem with the temper and here's why and here's

37:47

why and here's why. And

37:50

if he didn't listen and wanted to

37:52

continue on to get married to

37:55

the woman who had a temper, then

37:57

I would... invite

38:00

a bunch of people over for a

38:02

dinner party, including my son and his

38:06

girlfriend or fiance, and

38:08

I would trigger her. I

38:10

wouldn't be mean, I wouldn't be manipulative, but you

38:13

know, I would pick a hot topic, and

38:15

I would continue to press her on it, and

38:18

wouldn't take no for an answer to see, and

38:20

then she would probably blow up or storm out or

38:22

something like that, and then it'd be like, yep,

38:25

okay, see what I'm

38:27

talking about? Like, this is not good. Right?

38:29

And, you know, if I had to record it,

38:31

assuming that was illegal, that was illegal, then I

38:33

would record it, right? Of

38:37

course I would, because I'd want

38:41

the evidence, right? I'd want the evidence. Now,

38:47

if my son was going to marry a woman

38:50

who had a bad temper, then

38:52

almost for certain, that bad temper

38:54

would come from her parents, right?

38:58

Thank you, Joe. So, if

39:00

the bad temper came from her

39:03

irritable or hot-tempered parents, I would

39:05

invite my son, his

39:09

girlfriend slash fiance, and her parents

39:12

over with my wife and I, and

39:14

I would ask her

39:17

parents, where do you think

39:19

your daughter's volatile temper came from? Because,

39:22

you know, we're looking at merging families, and you guys

39:24

are going to be around raising my

39:26

grandkids and your grandkids, so, you know, I'm

39:28

just kind of curious, where do you think

39:31

this ill temper came from?

39:38

And if they denied it, if they, I would say, no, no,

39:40

no, here's the evidence, like we were just having dinner the other

39:42

day, and X, Y, and Z happened, and so on, right? So,

39:44

I would just ask that, and I would, again, if it was

39:46

legal, I would record that to

39:48

make sure that I didn't misrepresent anything, and

39:51

of course, I would delete all these recordings when I

39:53

was done, and so on, right? Because you want to

39:55

make sure that you're not making things up, or there's

39:57

some prejudicial way of rephrasing things or anything. anything

40:00

like that, right? What

40:04

else can you do? Let's say that my

40:06

son was going to get married at a

40:08

church, right? What

40:10

else could you do? Well,

40:16

you could go to

40:18

the priest and say there's a big problem with

40:20

a temper and, you

40:22

know, whatever assuming that you were in a

40:25

private situation, you could play the recording or

40:27

whatever it is and say this is really

40:29

bad, this is not going to work out,

40:31

there's negatives. You could go to extended family

40:33

and you could say this marriage is going

40:35

to be a disaster, she's a mean woman

40:38

with a bad temper. Clearly there was something

40:40

wrong with my parenting that my son is

40:42

interested in this kind of

40:44

woman, but nonetheless these are the facts. And

40:47

so then you would go to the extended family and

40:49

say we don't

40:51

want to go to this wedding. I don't think we need to

40:53

have a real discussion. You write them out of the will. There's

40:55

so many things that you could do to

40:58

influence what's going on, but you

41:00

would absolutely set heart-minded soul against

41:02

your son getting involved in

41:04

a disastrous marriage, right? Does

41:09

that make sense? So

41:12

much that you can do. So

41:19

much that you could do. You

41:22

could in fact be really obnoxious to the point where she

41:24

doesn't want to marry into your family. Like there's so much

41:26

that you can do. And

41:28

people do very little when

41:31

it comes to solving

41:33

other people making bad decisions. All

41:36

right, so let me just thank you for the tips. Tips

41:39

are super, super welcome. Am

41:41

I familiar with the work of Craig Biddle and

41:43

the objective standard? I am not. Steph,

41:47

question about reaching a free society. I was having a debate

41:49

with someone and we both agreed that there would have

41:51

to be a standard or principle the majority of people agree

41:53

to follow, whether it's UPP or something else. I

41:56

believe it will be UPP. How would this agreement come

41:59

about? Do

42:05

you not know

42:08

the process by which we get a free

42:10

society? Do

42:12

you not know the process by which we get

42:14

a free society? Smart

42:21

men do not get involved in other men's pussy.

42:25

No, that's not. Well, then you're not friends, right? Then you're

42:27

not friends, because we all need help. These

42:30

men, because their sex drives are so high, we all need

42:32

help with this, right? So

42:37

we get to a free society when people stop

42:39

abusing their children. Because

42:42

when we abuse our children, we teach our

42:44

children that might make right, and

42:47

you need centralized coercive power in order to

42:49

have a functional society, whether that society is

42:51

a family or a country.

42:54

So when we stop abusing our children, why

42:56

then we get a free society,

42:59

which is why it's a multi-generational process. So

43:02

if children are grown up not abused and reasoned with, and

43:04

it doesn't have to of course be every child, but when

43:06

there's a significant proportion of it, and it tends to hit

43:08

a tipping point and go faster and faster. So

43:11

if children, it's like saying,

43:13

how is everyone going to end

43:15

up speaking English together? Well, you have to be

43:18

raised speaking English, and then when they're raised speaking

43:20

English, everybody ends up speaking English together, and it's

43:22

fine. But

43:25

you got to teach people English first, right? You

43:29

got to teach people English first. So

43:35

once children are raised speaking English, in this

43:37

case it's reason, right? Once

43:39

you raise children speaking reason, then you

43:42

have a rational society and a peaceful society. If

43:45

you raise children with violence, you get a violent society. If

43:47

you raise people, children with reason, you get a reasonable society.

43:49

It's all up to the parents, which

43:51

is why I've been focusing on parenting from the very beginning

43:53

of the show. I think my second show

43:56

was about childhood, right? How

44:01

would this agreement come about? Children

44:04

are raised peacefully, they are negotiated with,

44:06

and by the time you become an adult, you've

44:10

had 17 years' experience negotiating

44:12

for win-win. So then that's what people

44:14

will be used to, and that's what they'll do. All

44:27

right. I

44:29

have a friend like this who's in a five-year relationship

44:31

with a girl who's seemingly done

44:34

him dirty and I've never seen a

44:36

guy more dicknapped and led by his lower brain. I'm

44:38

not sure how to broach the topic. Why

44:45

is he your friend? If he's living

44:47

like an animal, do you lie down with

44:50

pigs in the barn? If

44:54

he's living like an animal, how

44:56

can he be a friend? He

44:58

does not take feedback very well. I

45:00

brought up how he's always late and he looked like a deer

45:02

in headlights. But he's late. You

45:04

know why people are late? People are late,

45:07

other than technical issues. People

45:11

are late because they're fighting with their

45:14

girlfriends. Just

45:17

about every time, I mean, this is my assumption. I don't

45:19

have friends like this anymore, but when I was younger,

45:21

if somebody was late, it'd be like, okay, I'm going to

45:24

fight him with a girlfriend. I

45:26

had a fight with a wife, a conflict, another family, blah, blah,

45:28

blah, blah, blah. All right. That's

45:32

about it. So

45:39

yeah, it's pretty sad. Sorry,

45:43

lots of people typing. I don't want to start on the topic. If

45:45

there is the typing to be had.

45:50

Now don't forget, don't forget my friends. There's

45:53

a new service that I'm a couple

45:56

of weeks into offering that's really amazing and

45:58

you should really think about it. So,

46:00

you can do a private call. It's

46:03

a call-in show, but it's just you and me. You

46:06

can say anything you want. It's never going public.

46:08

You can talk about whatever you want. It never

46:10

goes out. You

46:13

can go to freedomain.com/call,

46:16

freedomain.com/call, and

46:19

you can choose a private call, and

46:21

we'll be in touch about that. I

46:24

did three yesterday? Yeah, it's a lot.

46:27

It's a lot. All

46:38

right, I'm almost going to check over here on

46:40

Rumble in case you have questions or comments or

46:42

issues that you want to bring up over on

46:44

that platform as well. I'm super happy

46:46

to hear from you as well. But

46:50

yeah, don't forget freedomain.com/call. You can check

46:53

out that, and

46:55

that's a great service that I'm very pleased to

46:57

be offering. And I can tell you this, like

46:59

everybody has said, this has been the most amazing

47:02

hour or two of my conversational

47:05

life. And it is. I

47:07

mean, because I can go full tilt boogie on private calls

47:09

in a way that I can't do with calls that are

47:11

going out to the general public. I can go real

47:14

direct, real hard-nosed, real honest, real

47:16

vivid, real powerful, because I don't

47:18

have to hold back any horses

47:20

because it's never going anywhere other

47:22

than URI. So freedomain.com/call, you got

47:24

a problem. You want to get a laser

47:27

focused philosophical solution. I'm

47:29

your guy. I'm your guy.

47:34

I'm your guy. He

47:36

says he's a very nice, genuine guy, open listening to new

47:38

ideas and taking them in. And he shows a level of

47:40

curiosity, but I'm starting to think he may be a head

47:43

notter, a

47:45

head notter and a yes,

47:47

man. He's helped me wing man with a girl I'm interested

47:49

in recently as well, which was cool. Okay.

47:52

But does he want kids or is he

47:54

just killing time? Around an

47:56

arid vagina, right? An

48:04

old call-in snippet uploaded to YouTube, a rational

48:06

mind's response to modern culture has perhaps your

48:08

greatest vulgar analogy. Quote, Being exhausted and overstimulated

48:10

is like having cocaine injected in your dick

48:12

and being told to do a jig on

48:14

a hot plate. Great speech

48:16

slash rant encourage others to check out. Been going

48:18

through a lot of the old catalogue. My

48:21

quality consistently great, can't tell if 2006 or 2016 sometimes.

48:25

Oh good, good. I'm sorry Dylan,

48:27

you posted this before and I missed it. I

48:30

blew past it, my apologies. Hey Steph, my grandfather

48:32

just passed away. He

48:34

had a traditional way of parenting unfortunately but was

48:36

a great man and loved his family. My question

48:38

is, what do you suggest on

48:40

kids seeing deceased family members? For example, my

48:42

little sister wants to see her grandfather while

48:45

he lays in repose. Why

48:48

can't your little sister see your grandfather? Isn't

48:52

the whole point of an

48:54

open coffin that you can,

48:57

that you can go and talk to someone? Andrew

49:04

Wilson, yeah, we'll get to that in a second. Steph,

49:09

do you have any qualms if someone decides to post the

49:11

private convo you had with them? Well, I hope that people

49:13

wouldn't do that without talking to me and in general I

49:15

would say keep it private. It

49:19

is a private, it is a private call. So

49:26

yeah, why can't little kids see dead people?

49:29

I mean that's why there are little kids because people die,

49:32

right? I'm not saying terrify them or anything like that. All

49:36

right, Steph, have

49:38

you heard of Andrew Wilson? Lying

49:41

in bed just like Andrew Wilson did. All

49:43

right, have you heard of Andrew Wilson? He's a

49:45

very skilled debater and recently debated Dave Smith. He

49:47

believes that non-aggression principle breaks down

49:50

without God. What do you think? What

49:55

do you mean, what do I think? Are

49:59

you saying that as guy who's cracked the

50:01

eternal problem of secular ethics, do

50:04

I believe that for the most foundational aspect

50:06

of ethics called the non-aggression principle, it's

50:09

invalid without God. So as a moralist and an

50:11

atheist and an advocate of the non-aggression principle, you

50:13

just got to think this through

50:15

for yourself, right? You don't need me

50:17

to answer this, right? Don't be lazy. Think things through

50:19

for yourself. I'm an atheist. I

50:23

promote the non-aggression principle. I

50:25

have a rational proof of secular ethics, right?

50:33

So if

50:36

the non-aggression principle breaks down without God, then if

50:38

I advocate for the non-aggression principle,

50:40

I either need to find a way to prove it

50:43

in the absence of God, or I need

50:46

to become Christian, or I need to

50:48

stop advocating for the non-aggression principle. Right?

50:52

So that

50:57

would be, that's an

50:59

odd question to me because it is, to

51:02

ask it is to answer it. Isn't that right? To

51:05

ask it is to answer it. I

51:08

agree. Would just like to see you to debate.

51:12

He is a very good debater. He

51:15

is a very good debater and a very,

51:17

very smart man, in my opinion. And

51:20

there's to me, respect.

51:22

Respect. Yes. He's a smart

51:25

guy. I mean, he does have a little

51:27

bit of a heavy weight of teardrop black

51:29

hole cynicism hanging off his gonads, but that

51:32

could just be a personality issue. He's a

51:34

little bit like a hyper intelligent eeyore. But

51:37

yes, no, I saw him have an interesting

51:39

debate with a young

51:42

feminist student,

51:44

which I thought was very interesting.

51:46

It taught me a lot. It

51:48

taught me a lot. Like his argument to the woman was

51:51

saying, well, but you know, guns equalize

51:54

coercion between men and women. And

51:56

he says like, no, guns require

51:58

strength to reload, strength to aim,

52:00

you have to have practice, the male body

52:02

is better at wielding guns than

52:05

the female body on average, and so even

52:07

guns don't equalize things as much as you

52:09

might think. That's

52:11

a good argument. And

52:13

it's not something that I had thought of,

52:15

but yeah, he's a... Steph, are

52:18

you atheist or agnostic? To

52:27

be agnostic is to say that reason

52:29

and evidence cannot solve the

52:31

most central problems of the existence of the universe,

52:33

the creation of life and the validation of ethics.

52:41

So you don't need to ask whether

52:45

I'm an atheist or an agnostic, and of course

52:47

I did just answer it as well. Somebody

53:00

says, I was 11 when my father

53:02

died. It was

53:04

the third of September, and the

53:06

day I'll always remember. Yes,

53:09

I will, because that was the day when

53:11

my daddy died. I was 11 when my

53:13

father died. Suggest, look,

53:15

don't touch. Someone told me to kiss my father.

53:17

It felt like cold wax, not him, still stuck

53:19

in my brain. Yeah, I think that's true. I

53:23

think that's true. Yeah,

53:25

touching the dead is probably a little creepy.

53:35

But here's the thing. So with regards to

53:37

Andrew Wilson and somebody like him, I

53:42

think that there are enough

53:44

dangerous, anti-rational, anti-moral people in

53:46

the world that I

53:48

don't think it's particularly helpful for

53:50

someone like Andrew Wilson and I

53:53

to debate, because we agree

53:55

on far more than

53:57

we disagree with, and neither of our world

53:59

views pose a coercive threat to the

54:01

other. Neither

54:06

of our views post

54:10

any kind of coercive threat to the other. So

54:14

I do believe that debates tend to

54:16

be more important when people

54:18

are advocating for the use of

54:20

violence. Well, I guess he's a Christian nationalist,

54:23

so there would be some aspect of that. But

54:25

again, we would agree far more than we would disagree, so

54:27

I generally would save my debates

54:29

for people I can dislike. I tend

54:31

to debate better when I really dislike someone.

54:36

Because then it becomes aggressive

54:40

and personal. You

54:42

know, like if you're a boxer, you

54:44

box better when you hate the guy, don't

54:46

you? Because you want to wipe that smug grin off his face.

54:49

So I debate better and I don't dislike

54:52

Andrew Wilson, I think is a good debater and a

54:54

good guy. And I'm sure again we would agree on

54:56

95% of most things.

55:01

I generally debate better and I

55:03

think my best debates have been with

55:06

people I really, really dislike.

55:09

You know, like rationality rules and

55:12

just people who give

55:14

me the... So

55:19

I will save, probably if I have debates, I will save

55:21

it for people that I really,

55:24

really dislike

55:26

it. All

55:33

right, we get back to

55:35

your questions and comments. I'm

55:37

glad you never did the Destiny debate. Who

55:45

are the top five people you want to debate right now?

55:53

Oh, that's an interesting question. Well,

55:55

it depends. If I could be fully

55:57

self-expressed, I would absolutely take...

56:00

on Jordan Peterson, who I have not

56:02

at all been impressed with lately. It

56:04

all been impressed with lately. It's been

56:06

terrible in my view. Maybe

56:13

Sam Harris would be interesting,

56:15

to put it mildly. It

56:18

depends. It depends. You've got to

56:21

pull back so much on debates these days. Because

56:26

it's not about who's right or wrong, it's about

56:28

who's going to get deplatformed. Debates

56:32

are kind of boring in a way now because people

56:35

are in general so hobbled and crippled in what

56:37

they can talk about. No,

56:47

dislike creates a bias ignoring the substance of

56:49

the topic. Why?

56:53

Are you saying that emotions always

56:56

involve bias? What are you talking about? What

56:59

are you, Spock? Well, in order to

57:01

be perfectly logical, you have to

57:03

have no emotions on them. But how the hell do you

57:05

know what to study? I

57:08

mean, if you love virtue, you're going to hate evil,

57:10

aren't you? If

57:13

you love integrity, you're going to hate corruption. You

57:16

can't love something without disliking its opposite.

57:19

How are you going to navigate anything? It's like trying

57:21

to navigate yourself through the world without any

57:23

pleasure or pain principle, but you're a robot?

57:27

Dislike creates a bias ignoring the substance of

57:29

the topic. That's nonsense. Oh

57:34

my gosh. Oh

57:40

my gosh. That's funny. Yes,

57:43

I care passionately about

57:46

virtue and truth and reason

57:48

and evidence, integrity, morality,

57:53

but I have absolutely no emotions about them whatsoever

57:55

because I wouldn't want to be biased. Yes,

57:59

I love my wife. therefore I'm completely

58:01

biased about her. No. No,

58:03

she's a great woman and a moral

58:05

woman. Yes, emotions cloud reason. Well,

58:09

that's just a lie. Told to you so

58:11

that passionate people can take over and kick your

58:13

ass. Fuck

58:17

that, man. I

58:20

mean, I'm a rational guy. Anyone comes between me

58:22

and my passions, they're my enemy. Now,

58:26

you understand that you're just crippled. People

58:28

just cripple you. They say, well, you

58:30

know, if you want to be rational, you can't

58:32

be emotional. So all you're doing is opposing your

58:34

instincts, your passions, your loves and your hates. Rolling

58:38

yourself up into a little armadillo ball so you

58:40

don't let a shred of passion escape. And

58:42

then you get rolled over by everyone

58:46

who's an idiot and passionate. No, that's

58:49

coward. That's cowardly. I'm sorry. I'm straight up again

58:51

and call it out. It's cowardly. If

58:54

you can't find a way. If

58:57

you can't find a way to unite reason and passion,

59:00

you are going to lose forever. Right.

59:05

The best drawer are full of doubt

59:07

and hesitation, while the worst are full of

59:09

passionate intensity. No,

59:12

emotions cloud reason. All that means is

59:14

you've been around hyper manipulative people who

59:17

use the appeal to emotion to

59:19

roll over others. You've been around those kinds of people.

59:22

And so because you've been around irrational

59:25

people who manipulate emotionally, you say, well,

59:27

emotions are irrational. Well,

59:29

that's crazy. It's

59:32

like seeing somebody drive away from a bank

59:34

robbery in a getaway car and say all

59:37

cars are bank robbery. This

59:42

is as bad as the people who say guns

59:45

kill people. Yes,

59:48

yes, I know. I know. I know.

59:51

There are irrational people. Who

59:54

are very passionate. That does

59:56

not mean that all.

1:00:00

Emotions are irrational. There

1:00:04

are people who use

1:00:06

tennis rackets to club other people to

1:00:09

death. That does not mean that

1:00:11

all tennis rackets are used to

1:00:13

club people to death, and only people

1:00:16

who club to death by tennis rackets. This

1:00:18

is a massive category error. Irrational

1:00:22

people can be hyper-emotional. That does not

1:00:25

mean that emotions are irrational. Murderers

1:00:32

sometimes use steak knives to kill people. That doesn't

1:00:34

mean when you pick up a steak knife, you're a

1:00:36

murderer. Category

1:00:40

error. And you have a reason why you want to believe

1:00:42

this nonsense, which is that your emotions are alarming to you,

1:00:45

because emotions... Emotions

1:00:49

will put you... Passion will put you in a

1:00:52

situation of confrontation with evil doers. Because if you're

1:00:54

just back there, Spock-like, with your head up your

1:00:56

own iridescent, silent ass,

1:00:59

then you're not any danger or risk to anyone

1:01:01

who's evil, who's immoral. But

1:01:05

if you unite rationality

1:01:07

with passion, then you're

1:01:10

in the arena with the bad guys. And

1:01:12

then you can get your ass kicked. Trust me.

1:01:15

Trust me on this one. You can get your ass kicked. Sometimes

1:01:17

you'll kick ass. Sometimes you will receive a

1:01:20

foot in the ass. Steph,

1:01:32

would you consider having a conversation with Andrew Wilson if someone

1:01:34

could make the introduction for you? I mean, I don't know.

1:01:36

I mean, I'm not doing politics. I don't know that there's

1:01:38

much we would talk about, but let

1:01:40

me think about it. People who think

1:01:43

getting passionate in a debate looks bad bother me. Yeah?

1:01:47

Yeah. It's a fair. It's,

1:01:50

you understand, it's a categorical error

1:01:52

to say that

1:01:54

you love something, you

1:01:58

love something and you are a indifferent to

1:02:00

it. I

1:02:04

both love something. I love philosophy. I'm

1:02:06

indifferent to philosophy. I'm very passionate about

1:02:08

virtue, but

1:02:10

emotions cloud virtue. No,

1:02:13

as a category error, you can't do anything

1:02:15

in life without passion, which is why people

1:02:18

are happy if you give up your passions, because then you're not

1:02:20

doing shit, and you're not

1:02:22

in the way, and the passionate lunatics can take

1:02:24

over. All

1:02:43

right. Donated at

1:02:45

FDR. Thank you, Karras. I

1:02:47

really appreciate that as always. Is it evil to abandon a

1:02:49

child? I was arguing with another libertarian that it was, and

1:02:51

they argued it isn't. My argument was

1:02:53

that you own your choices and their effects. Thus, when

1:02:55

you have sex, the risk of pregnancy is always on

1:02:57

the table, and then abandoning a child is like a

1:03:00

death threat to the child. I also argued that single

1:03:02

mothers swell the state. Neither of

1:03:04

my arguments felt like slam dunks. PPAI

1:03:07

said it was evil. Well,

1:03:12

you're not clear on that. So

1:03:17

if you abandon a child in the

1:03:20

woods, that's murder. Like

1:03:22

if you, let's say a baby, right? If

1:03:25

you abandon a baby in the woods, that's

1:03:28

murder. Straight up.

1:03:30

Right? You take a baby

1:03:32

deep in the woods, you leave the baby there, it's

1:03:34

going to die of exposure, hunger, thirst eaten by animals,

1:03:37

you've just murdered that child. So we

1:03:39

can agree that to abandon a child

1:03:41

who has no capacity for survival is

1:03:44

murder. So

1:03:47

yes, of course it is. Of course it is. Because

1:03:51

a child is a prisoner of

1:03:53

biology. Right? If

1:03:55

I go on vacation, that doesn't initiate the use

1:03:57

of force, and I'm not doing anything immoral. I'm

1:04:00

just going on vacation for two weeks. But

1:04:03

if before I go on vacation, I lock a guy

1:04:05

in my basement and then I go on vacation for

1:04:08

two weeks, then he's, let's say there's no water,

1:04:10

he's dead. Because three days no

1:04:12

water, he's dead. So

1:04:21

to walk around in the woods is fine. Doesn't

1:04:24

violate the non-aggression principle, assuming it's your property

1:04:26

or an unknown property. Walk around in

1:04:28

the woods is fine. If you go in the woods, leave a baby behind,

1:04:30

that's murder. Now

1:04:34

if you say, is it immoral

1:04:37

to give up a child to someone who

1:04:39

can take care of that child better? No,

1:04:43

that's not immoral. It

1:04:46

is not immoral to give

1:04:48

the child up to others who

1:04:50

can take better care of the child. Let's say

1:04:52

that you have a drug addiction

1:04:55

and you get pregnant, you just

1:04:57

stay off drugs long enough to have the child

1:04:59

and then you go back on the drugs, the

1:05:02

addiction is too strong and you hand your child

1:05:04

to someone who can take better care of your

1:05:06

child. That's not evil, is it? That's

1:05:10

not evil. In fact, you're saving the child. I

1:05:13

mean if you're drowning or you're on

1:05:15

the Titanic and you hand your child

1:05:17

to someone in the lifeboat and there's no room for

1:05:19

you on the lifeboat, you've just saved that child's life,

1:05:21

right? So

1:05:25

it is evil to

1:05:28

withhold the

1:05:31

means of life from someone when you have a

1:05:33

monopoly on that. You

1:05:36

lock someone in the basement, you

1:05:39

have to give that

1:05:41

person food and water or you're going to kill them or

1:05:43

you're responsible, you murder them, right? So

1:05:50

it depends what you mean by abandon. Single

1:05:54

mother swelled the state. Yeah, of course. I mean the

1:05:56

welfare state is the single mother state, right? Does

1:06:04

that make sense? So

1:06:06

it really, again, definition is really, really key. Definition

1:06:10

is really, really key. So

1:06:12

it depends what you mean by abandon. Is

1:06:15

it immoral to take a child away from parents? Absolutely.

1:06:18

Yeah, that's kidnapping, right? Because

1:06:22

we own ourselves and we own the effects of

1:06:24

our actions, and therefore we own our children. That

1:06:28

mean we can do with them what we want because they

1:06:30

are sentient beings, but we own our children. And

1:06:32

if you take someone's child, that is taking

1:06:34

their property. Or

1:06:36

you're saying that the effects of their actions, which

1:06:38

is their child, is yours, not theirs, which is

1:06:41

not the case. It's

1:06:43

not the case. I mean,

1:06:45

I understand that people say, oh, you're saying that children

1:06:47

are property like slaves. It's like,

1:06:49

well, they are property in that you create them,

1:06:51

you bring them home, and you have a monopoly in

1:06:53

providing them care and resources. So

1:06:57

yes, it is an absolute evil to

1:06:59

kidnap a child from parents.

1:07:07

It violates the

1:07:09

will and ownership of

1:07:11

the parents, and it also violates

1:07:13

the will of the child who does not

1:07:15

want you to kidnap away from the

1:07:17

parents. Now,

1:07:20

of course, if the, like, let's sort of go

1:07:22

to the extremes, and if the parents are endangering

1:07:25

the child, then you are not taking

1:07:27

the child away. You

1:07:29

are rescuing the child from danger

1:07:31

or death. So

1:07:34

you can't grab and hold the child, unless

1:07:37

that child is about to fall into a

1:07:39

lion enclosure or a Harambe pit or something,

1:07:41

right? Then you can grab and hold the

1:07:43

child because you're not confining the child,

1:07:45

you're protecting the child from danger. So

1:07:49

if the child is in imminent danger

1:07:51

of being seriously

1:07:54

injured or killed, then yes, you

1:07:56

absolutely go in and you take that child away. that

1:08:00

is acting as

1:08:03

an agent of self-defense on behalf of the child.

1:08:05

And of course, because self-defense

1:08:08

is universal and moral, it

1:08:10

doesn't matter who enacts it, which is why

1:08:12

a security guard can act to protect someone's

1:08:14

life or property, right? So

1:08:19

hopefully that makes sense. That's a

1:08:21

great question, though. And I'll make

1:08:23

a note about this to talk more about parents,

1:08:27

children, and the question of property, because it's a very

1:08:29

interesting one. Children

1:08:31

aren't inanimate property, and obviously they're

1:08:33

higher than pets. So

1:08:40

then it is immoral to take a child away

1:08:42

from a pedo. Then

1:08:44

it is immoral. No,

1:08:47

sorry, because like

1:08:51

you can't kidnap a woman on a date, but

1:08:53

you can take a woman to safety who's being raped.

1:08:57

So I'm sorry, I don't quite, like you can't

1:08:59

just grab a woman and pull her into your

1:09:01

van and drive away if she's on a date,

1:09:03

that's kidnapping. But if you

1:09:07

help the woman into your van and you'd speed away

1:09:09

from a man who's raping her, you're rescuing her from

1:09:11

a violent situation. Andrew

1:09:17

Wilson seems to focus mostly

1:09:19

on OnlyFans' thoughtery. He's in

1:09:21

the whatever thing sometimes, right? The whatever show? All

1:09:29

right, sorry, somebody had another question. I was

1:09:32

watching that video about the man who put his wife

1:09:34

and girlfriend on OnlyFans. My first time was finding my

1:09:36

grandfather's porn mags when I was 10. He died when

1:09:38

I was 13 and was the only adult male

1:09:40

in my life. We never spoke about pornography, and then I used

1:09:43

it a lot, he says. I

1:09:45

can see and tell that it's evil, but I've already got

1:09:47

those formative years of corruption. Yeah,

1:09:51

I mean, honestly, I would

1:09:54

really hesitate to talk about corruption

1:09:57

when you're a victim. It's

1:10:02

really tough to talk about.

1:10:04

Corruption is something that you choose, not something

1:10:07

that you're involuntarily exposed to as a child.

1:10:10

So look, if you

1:10:12

choose to take drugs as an adult, that's a

1:10:14

bad decision. If you're born

1:10:17

drug-addicted, you're not a drug

1:10:19

addict in terms of like you haven't chosen, you're

1:10:21

not morally responsible. Your body is addicted to drugs,

1:10:23

but not through any choice of yours. So

1:10:26

be very careful talking about corruption

1:10:28

as a child, because corruption implies

1:10:30

a free will which you don't have as

1:10:32

a child. A

1:10:36

pedo has a child, can you take the child away? Sorry,

1:10:40

I answered this. I'm

1:10:43

not sure what you're asking anymore. Of

1:10:46

course you can, because the pedophile

1:10:49

is sexually assaulting or raping the child. So

1:10:55

the pedophile is

1:10:58

violating persons

1:11:00

and property, and therefore can't

1:11:03

claim the protection of persons and property. I

1:11:07

like your argument that a parent is like a financial manager

1:11:09

and steward for a child's adult self. Yeah, yeah,

1:11:11

for sure. Steph,

1:11:13

have you seen those videos of weird pets like Hugh

1:11:15

Gaguanis being infantilized? All the comments of Ray Lovey Dovey

1:11:18

and Positive, I find it very strange. There's

1:11:21

no sane or healthy person that

1:11:23

has an adult

1:11:25

who has a large lizard and or a snake for

1:11:27

a pet. Maybe

1:11:32

there are some, and maybe you're the exception, but

1:11:34

for the most part, I've never

1:11:36

known a sane or healthy person who has a large lizard

1:11:38

as an adult or a snake for a pet. There

1:11:43

were some Charlie's Angels with green, what was

1:11:45

his name? I can't remember. He

1:11:48

was feeding frozen

1:11:50

mice to his snake, and it's just

1:11:52

weird. Like, weird, why would

1:11:54

you want to do that? It's completely bizarre to me.

1:11:57

It's a strange, bizarre thing to do. It's,

1:12:04

to me, again, this is obviously just my

1:12:06

opinion. I don't have any proof. But

1:12:09

to me, somebody

1:12:11

who has a lizard

1:12:13

or large lizard or snake as a pet,

1:12:15

as an adult, right? Somebody

1:12:18

who has a large lizard or snake as a pet is

1:12:20

showing you their own sociopathic

1:12:22

reptilian nature in a box. That's

1:12:24

just it for me. You

1:12:27

know, somebody's saying, well, I'm cold

1:12:29

hearted. And if you have

1:12:31

any doubt, look at what I'm feeding. So.

1:12:38

Yeah, honestly, don't view yourself as corrupt for what happened

1:12:40

to you as a child. Don't

1:12:45

give yourself a label that, don't give yourself a stain

1:12:47

that you can't wash off. As

1:12:50

an adult, you have more responsibility. But don't give yourself a

1:12:52

stain that you can't wash off like a label like that.

1:12:54

I think that's pretty wretched. Now,

1:12:57

don't forget, there's a bunch of people watching over there on Rumble.

1:13:00

You can also tip as well. You know, there's a lot of work

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that goes into these kinds of shows, a lot of prep that goes

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into these kind of answers. And I've

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solved at least half a dozen significant problems for people

1:13:08

over the course of the last hour and a quarter.

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If you find this a value, you can tip on

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the app or you

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freedomain.com/donate. And

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how about there? You just

1:13:23

reminded me of the kid in my senior year of high

1:13:25

school who kept a bunch of snakes and had tattoos all

1:13:27

over. It's like the Rottweiler thing, you know, it's like, ah,

1:13:29

I got my Rottweilers. Okay, we get it. You're a cold

1:13:32

eyed sadist. I get it. You

1:13:39

just donated. I appreciate that. Thank you.

1:13:42

Thank you very much. Yeah,

1:13:45

of course, parents do need to help

1:13:48

their kids understand all of the unsavory stuff that's

1:13:50

on the internet. They

1:13:52

really do. They

1:13:55

really do. That's

1:13:58

one supersized microphone. Yes,

1:14:00

it is. Yeah,

1:14:02

I used this for recording some of my audio books because

1:14:04

I didn't want to sit in the studio. So I got

1:14:07

a second mic for the upstairs.

1:14:09

It's very nice mic, by the way. It's a very

1:14:11

nice mic. One

1:14:14

day I will run Passmark, which is a speed

1:14:16

tester on one of my computers and have it not

1:14:18

suck. One day. That day

1:14:20

is not today, but one day it may happen. In fact,

1:14:22

I don't think I've ever run a test

1:14:25

of hardware where it's even close to

1:14:27

what other people are getting. It's always slower. Oh,

1:14:30

well, you know, you

1:14:32

buy a computer with 16 cores and 15 of

1:14:34

them are used to process system interrupts. That's all

1:14:36

Windows seems to do is system interrupts. Don't

1:14:39

forget peacefulparenting.com. There's my little gift. Even

1:14:41

if you're not a donor, you get

1:14:43

the whole book right there. peacefulparenting.com. You

1:14:47

can just go straight there and you can get

1:14:49

the book. I'm fine if you share it around.

1:14:52

peacefulparenting.com. All

1:14:57

right. Any

1:15:04

other last questions, comments,

1:15:06

issues, challenges, problems? I

1:15:12

am happy to hear,

1:15:14

to answer. I

1:15:17

have. So, yeah, just my day I did.

1:15:20

Gosh, I worked for a

1:15:22

couple of hours on shortening the peacefulparenting book, which is

1:15:24

tough because it's like pulling my own teeth. So

1:15:27

I worked for a couple of hours this morning, had some lunch. I

1:15:30

helped my daughter put together a duck

1:15:32

coop and then I

1:15:34

did a private call in

1:15:36

and then I helped my daughter finish

1:15:38

her duck coop and then I came

1:15:41

up. A

1:15:44

lot of bad stuff happens during sleepovers. Oh, yeah,

1:15:46

yeah, for sure. Sleepovers these days, it

1:15:48

just takes one kid with that

1:15:50

one website to just muck up after

1:15:53

gene pool in the neighborhood. It's it's not good.

1:15:55

The sleepovers are not great. Dang,

1:15:59

I do wish. Linux was a reasonable alternative for most

1:16:01

people to replace Windows. You

1:16:04

are not alone in that. You are not

1:16:06

alone in that. The ideal operating system will have to

1:16:08

come out of Elon Musk and out

1:16:10

of his armpit directly. There's nothing else. There's no

1:16:13

other option. No other option.

1:16:16

But yeah, I liked Linux. I played around with it

1:16:18

a little bit. I actually have an emulator on

1:16:20

one of my PCs, but

1:16:23

I just, I can't go

1:16:25

down that rabbit hole of can it replace everything,

1:16:27

because it can't, right? And

1:16:30

when you get older too, like when I was

1:16:32

younger, fighting around with OSes, I did OS2 back

1:16:35

in the day. It's an IBM one. I

1:16:38

used to love fighting around with operating systems back in the

1:16:40

day, but I'm going to be

1:16:42

58 in a couple of months. Time's

1:16:44

ticking away. You

1:16:47

know that close encounter with the third kind? You

1:16:49

got that glow

1:16:51

over the horizon. That's death, man. It's

1:16:54

not so far over the horizon anymore. I

1:16:56

get 20 years. I'm happy. I get

1:16:58

30 years. I'm very happy. I get

1:17:01

40 years. I'm ridiculously lucky. Went

1:17:03

through your French Revolution presentation again

1:17:06

recently. Very amazing. Thank you.

1:17:09

The French Revolution presentation, all praise to Jared for a lot

1:17:11

of that research. The French Revolution presentation

1:17:13

is in fact incredible, and it's available for

1:17:15

donors at freedomain.com. Well,

1:17:18

sorry, at freedomain.locals.com. If you subscribe, you

1:17:20

get that. Submitting

1:17:22

a call and request. I've always been afraid of

1:17:24

calling you for some reason. You're

1:17:29

not afraid of calling me. Let's

1:17:33

be precise, my friends. You

1:17:36

are in no way, shape, or form afraid

1:17:38

of calling me. Now, you're the smart

1:17:41

people. Dot coop. That's

1:17:43

funny. I ought to save that. Actually,

1:17:46

you can share that, right? Yeah, you can share that.

1:17:48

Okay. So you are not afraid of calling me? Come on.

1:17:53

I don't, I can't think of anybody who's had a bad

1:17:55

experience. I do remember, actually, I can remember one

1:17:58

woman. We're calling you. with

1:18:00

her boyfriend and she was so relentlessly

1:18:02

terrible and horrible that

1:18:06

she absolutely never

1:18:09

wanted that show to be released. She was

1:18:11

absolutely ashamed at how she behaved and she

1:18:13

was just appallingly horrible, mean and vicious. I

1:18:16

found it quite interesting and quite a ride. But

1:18:18

yeah, nobody's really, I mean, who has a bad time when they call

1:18:20

me? It's I'm very friendly.

1:18:22

I'm very positive. I'm very helpful.

1:18:25

I'm very, very peppy. And

1:18:27

so you're not nervous about

1:18:29

calling me. The

1:18:33

next philosopher is Kant. That's going to be next week. So

1:18:38

yeah, you're not nervous about calling me.

1:18:40

You're not nervous about calling me, but there are bad people

1:18:42

in your life who don't want you to call me. I

1:18:44

just just so you're aware, there are bad people in your

1:18:46

life who

1:18:48

don't want you to call me. And that's about it. That's

1:18:53

about all she wrote. You're just

1:18:55

bad people in your life who don't want you calling me. And

1:18:58

that's it. That's all she wrote.

1:19:01

My friend has a bunch of tattoos, even blacked out his whole

1:19:03

arm and is covered in geometric shapes and characters. It makes me

1:19:05

wonder why he wants to do that. Well,

1:19:07

to signify to other people that he's an unprocessed victim

1:19:10

of child abuse so he can exploit them and they

1:19:12

can exploit him. Steph, do

1:19:14

you think one day you will stop doing shows standing up? I'm

1:19:17

sitting. What

1:19:23

do you think about people who collect vinyls? I don't see

1:19:25

the point, but they say the physicality is nice. I mean,

1:19:30

I assume that people who collect vinyls are

1:19:32

like women who parent dogs. And

1:19:36

I actually have a friend of mine who does

1:19:38

quite a bit of real estate and he bought a house where

1:19:41

in there was room

1:19:44

after room with massive numbers of

1:19:46

vinyl records on the walls, like

1:19:49

tens of thousands of vinyl records. This guy

1:19:51

had been collected, had been collecting

1:19:54

vinyl records for decades.

1:19:59

And I

1:20:02

can't. And he

1:20:04

died. And of course

1:20:06

he never listened to all those records, he couldn't. It

1:20:08

just becomes a fetish. Now a lot

1:20:10

of times people get involved in early technology because

1:20:12

they're sad about the world that's gone. They

1:20:15

just left them there and he died. He

1:20:17

died. Do you not listen? Did

1:20:19

I not say? I thought I said he died. A

1:20:22

good day. Don't like this

1:20:24

is what I do with my wife when she doesn't,

1:20:26

when I mumble. She's like, I sort of knew

1:20:28

this. I can't clean the ears. Which

1:20:30

you know, she loves. Loves it to death.

1:20:35

Yeah, a guy died and he had all of these final

1:20:37

records. And

1:20:40

what happened? Well, he tried to sell

1:20:42

some of them, nobody was particularly interested, and after the

1:20:44

dump they went. After

1:20:47

the dump they went. Right.

1:20:54

You know this story, right? Alexander

1:20:57

the Great, what

1:21:01

he wanted when he died, it's

1:21:04

probably apocryphal. Right.

1:21:11

Alexander was a great Greek king. As a

1:21:13

military commander he was undefeated and the most

1:21:15

successful throughout history. On

1:21:17

his way home from conquering many countries he came down

1:21:19

with an illness. At

1:21:22

that moment his captured territories, powerful army,

1:21:24

sharp swords and wealth all had no

1:21:27

meaning to him. He

1:21:29

realized that death would soon arrive and he would be

1:21:31

unable to return to his homeland. He

1:21:34

told his officers, I

1:21:38

will soon leave this world. I

1:21:40

have three final wishes. You need

1:21:42

to carry out what I tell you. His

1:21:44

generals in tears agreed.

1:21:48

The three wishes. One,

1:21:52

the best doctors should carry my

1:21:54

body. Two,

1:21:58

all the wealth I have accumulated. 20

1:22:00

gold, precious stones, scatter them along the

1:22:02

procession to the cemetery. And

1:22:05

three, my body should be

1:22:07

covered in a shroud, with only my

1:22:09

hands visible swinging in the wind,

1:22:12

palms up, carrying dust. One

1:22:16

of the generals, who was surprised by these

1:22:18

unusual requests, asked Alexander to explain.

1:22:21

Here's what Alexander the Great had to say. I

1:22:25

want the best doctors to carry my coffin to

1:22:27

demonstrate that in the face of death, even the

1:22:29

best doctors in the world have no power to

1:22:31

heal. I

1:22:34

want the road to be covered with my

1:22:36

treasure so that everybody sees that material wealth

1:22:38

acquired on Earth, stays on Earth. I

1:22:43

want my hands to swing in the wind

1:22:45

so that people understand that we come into

1:22:47

this world empty-handed and we leave this world

1:22:49

empty-handed after the most precious treasure of all

1:22:52

is exhausted and that is time. That

1:23:05

is time. That

1:23:08

is time. Probably

1:23:12

not a true story, but I don't

1:23:14

particularly care if it's true or not. Steph,

1:23:17

do you think people are born with those horrid

1:23:20

oracle skills or did experience help? Well,

1:23:22

apparently the first time that Adolf

1:23:25

Hitler got up to speak he was incredible. Dunno.

1:23:30

How many square feet is your house? Philosophy

1:23:34

show! For real estate, you need

1:23:36

HGTV. Home and

1:23:38

garden television, that's what you need my friend. Not.

1:23:44

What I do. All

1:23:47

right, wait, what did I have over

1:23:50

here? Trying to give a

1:23:52

little more light as darkness

1:23:54

begins to fall. There we go. There

1:23:56

we go. I

1:24:01

think deep down we know what we're good at and

1:24:04

we should really, really aim to focus on that, right? I

1:24:06

think deep down we know what we're good at. All

1:24:08

right, any other last questions, comments, issues, challenges,

1:24:10

problems? We of course will have a chat. I

1:24:13

like the Friday night voice chat, so you

1:24:16

can, maybe we can open it

1:24:18

up, but I like having debates with people and having

1:24:20

voice chats back and forth. Yeah,

1:24:24

just remember you don't have as much time as

1:24:26

you think. You

1:24:29

don't, I mean, I think I packed a lot of living into

1:24:31

my 57 and a half years, but you don't have as much

1:24:33

time as you think. Steffi's

1:24:37

selling his house. Not

1:24:39

if you donate. All

1:24:45

right, so I'm just going to check something here. I'll just

1:24:47

wait for any last questions or comments

1:24:50

to come in. Thank you for

1:24:52

those who are donating at freedevane.com. I

1:24:55

really, really do appreciate it. I

1:25:04

really do appreciate it. And don't

1:25:06

forget freedevane.com/call. You want a private call

1:25:09

free of public scrutiny

1:25:12

where you can talk about whatever you want.

1:25:14

And of course some people don't call in

1:25:16

because they have maybe business questions and they

1:25:18

want to keep things proprietary. All of this

1:25:20

could be solved. All

1:25:23

of this can be solved. But

1:25:27

yeah, freedevane.com/call and

1:25:30

you and I can chat

1:25:33

like we are. The

1:25:37

early band, yes. And you and I

1:25:39

come over the sea to the morning. You

1:25:42

can do all of this wonderful stuff. All

1:25:46

this delightful, delicious, lovely chatting.

1:25:52

And it's kind of an introductory price right now. It

1:25:55

will go up. Favorite rock singer slash band

1:25:57

trying to upgrade my playlist. Do

1:26:00

you like Squeeze? Tempted by the fruit of

1:26:02

another? Yes. Wasn't that, uh, the

1:26:05

people keep on bragging? That was,

1:26:07

uh, gosh. Elvis Costello. We did

1:26:09

that. Uh, favorite

1:26:11

rock singer or band? Um, Freddie

1:26:13

Mercury and, uh, Queen? Without

1:26:16

a doubt. Without a doubt. Listen,

1:26:19

I mean, if you want to really listen

1:26:21

to some absolutely Baroque stuff,

1:26:24

listen to, from the album Queen

1:26:26

2, March of the Black Queen. Wild.

1:26:30

It's totally schizo. Uh,

1:26:32

yes, introductory price for Colin. Yeah. So I don't

1:26:34

mean to be Mr. Marketing, but the demand is

1:26:36

vastly outstripping my time. So I'm going to have

1:26:38

to raise prices, but you know, you want

1:26:40

to call? Yeah. Call in, man.

1:26:43

Call in. We'll set it up. Steph,

1:26:47

I love you and your work, but sometimes I feel annoyed

1:26:49

when you ask people to tip, even though I think

1:26:51

you produce an enormous amount of value. Why would I

1:26:53

feel that? Well,

1:26:55

I think it's because it sometimes

1:26:57

can be tough to see other

1:27:00

people directly ask for what

1:27:02

they want. If, if you have a problem

1:27:04

directly asking for what you want. I

1:27:06

know I'm, you're not the first person to be

1:27:09

annoyed by me relentlessly asking for tips, but you

1:27:11

know, I, I know the value that

1:27:13

I provide, I have employees, uh, and

1:27:15

I have costs and I want to keep

1:27:17

things sustainable and you know, after de-platforming income

1:27:20

went down largely, largely, largely.

1:27:22

So you know, I gotta be responsible to

1:27:24

the sustainability of the show. So I'm going

1:27:27

to ask, right? And, but

1:27:29

a lot of times people don't like

1:27:31

me asking because they see me repeatedly

1:27:33

without escalation, without bullying, without manipulation. People

1:27:36

see me asking for what I need

1:27:38

and want and it bothers them because they

1:27:40

don't feel the same freedom to do that. I

1:27:42

mean, do you dislike asking for what you want?

1:27:47

I've been working my way into sending you a call

1:27:49

and request for a while now. How do I contact

1:27:51

you? So just go to freedemain.com/call freedemain.com/

1:27:55

call. So,

1:27:58

and yeah, I mean, I asked for donations. because I need

1:28:00

donations. Oof, got

1:28:02

spine tingles, you nailed it. We'll donate again

1:28:05

this Friday. Right. So,

1:28:07

look, let's

1:28:10

end with this, right? So most

1:28:12

times when we're children, if

1:28:15

we have dysfunctional families, if we ask them what we

1:28:17

want, we get attacked. Oh, you're being

1:28:19

selfish. Oh, think of other people for a while. Oh, I'm too

1:28:21

busy. Oh, when we ask for what we want, I want

1:28:23

to spend more time with you. I'd like to go to do this. I'd like

1:28:25

to go and to do that. And

1:28:27

people get annoyed with us. Right.

1:28:29

And Lord knows in school, if you try to get something that

1:28:32

you like or want or need, like,

1:28:34

I don't know, interesting lessons, people

1:28:36

are going to get mad at you and get

1:28:38

frustrated with you. So to ask

1:28:41

for what you do, to ask directly for what you want

1:28:44

in a dysfunctional household

1:28:48

is going to get you abused or

1:28:51

harshly treated. And in school, it's the same,

1:28:54

it's the same way. So we're trained out

1:28:56

of asking for what we want now. Why are we trained

1:28:58

out of asking for what we want so that other people

1:29:00

can step in front of us? Right.

1:29:03

So other people can step in front of us. I

1:29:10

feel way better about doing a private call in knowing there's

1:29:12

a charge. I felt like it would be asking too much

1:29:14

to do a private one without the expectation of reciprocity. Right.

1:29:18

Yeah, and it would be. I would be. Once

1:29:20

my financial situation stabilizes and my substantial pay raises

1:29:22

kick in, I will lavish you with money. You've

1:29:24

been incredibly helpful and have not given enough in

1:29:27

return. Well, I appreciate that. And honestly,

1:29:29

congratulations. What a lovely sunset. I don't get to see this

1:29:31

from the studio. What a lovely thought.

1:29:33

And I appreciate that. Thank you.

1:29:35

I understand that feeling as I was never

1:29:37

allowed to desire things as a child. Asking

1:29:40

what you want so you can be the best, you can be the job.

1:29:43

Steph tips on asking for a raise. I got a

1:29:46

job offered from a competitor. Right.

1:29:51

Steph, you know you can get a job, right? It's

1:29:58

funny. Ah. Steph

1:30:00

tips on asking for a raise. I got

1:30:03

a job offered from a competitor. Okay. All

1:30:06

right. So you don't ask for a raise That's that's

1:30:08

being in a begging position, right? You

1:30:11

don't ask for a raise Right

1:30:20

What are you doing when you ask for a raise

1:30:22

are you asking for the company to give up something?

1:30:24

Are you asked to be treated with favoritism? Are you

1:30:26

asking for the company to lose money by giving you

1:30:28

more money? No You're

1:30:30

asking for recognition of the value you're providing right?

1:30:33

That's what my tips are. I Ask

1:30:36

the recognition of the value that I'm providing

1:30:38

and the value that I provide is enormous

1:30:41

Unprecedented and you can't get it anywhere else like I

1:30:43

know that for an absolute fact I

1:30:46

know that for an absolute I mean I will go

1:30:48

to my grave absolutely certain that the value I provide

1:30:50

is enormous life changing

1:30:52

and Cannot

1:30:55

be replicated and is not replicated anywhere

1:30:57

else So

1:31:01

you're not asking for a raise you're

1:31:03

asking for just recognition of the value

1:31:05

that you provide Right

1:31:11

Are you begging a girl to go out with

1:31:13

you? No, you are not begging a girl to

1:31:15

go out with you You

1:31:18

are offering her A

1:31:22

great fun enjoyable evening Right

1:31:30

So if you have validation of the value

1:31:32

you would say so you what you need

1:31:34

to do to get a raise you need

1:31:36

to track The value that you're doing say

1:31:38

look I did this much faster. I did

1:31:40

this much faster. I cut costs here I

1:31:42

cut costs there. Here's the value that I'm

1:31:44

providing to the company I don't

1:31:46

feel like it matches what I'm getting back and

1:31:49

I want to keep providing value to the company and I

1:31:51

also want To stay motivated, right? So

1:31:55

I'm giving you the chance to you know respond and

1:31:57

you know if you think I'm crazy That's fine, but

1:31:59

I'm giving you the chance to respond to

1:32:02

the value proposition that I'm making. You're

1:32:05

not asking for money. You're asking for recognition of

1:32:08

the value that you're providing to the company. You're

1:32:11

not asking for money when you ask for a

1:32:13

raise. You're asking for money back. Do

1:32:17

you see what I mean? You're not asking for money. Oh,

1:32:19

please give me money out of this big pile. You'll

1:32:21

end up with less. I'll end up with more. Blah, blah,

1:32:23

blah. It's about your ego. No. You're

1:32:25

asking for money back. I just saved

1:32:28

this company $100,000. I

1:32:30

won a $10,000 raise. You're still up $90,000. I

1:32:34

don't get the $10,000 raise. Maybe I'm not saving

1:32:36

you $100,000 next year. Right?

1:32:39

You're not asking for money. You're

1:32:41

asking for money back. You

1:32:43

lend your productivity to a company, and

1:32:46

they pay you out of that productivity. Like

1:32:48

if you lend $100 to a friend, and

1:32:51

you say, can you pay me the money back? You're not

1:32:53

begging for money. You're asking him to pay you back. But

1:32:55

you lent him. You're

1:33:00

not asking for money. You're asking for money back.

1:33:03

You're asking for just recognition of the value you've provided.

1:33:05

Now if you don't know the value you've provided, that's

1:33:07

a whole other problem. You got to figure that out.

1:33:09

You got to make that case. Because your boss also

1:33:11

would love to pay you more. Right?

1:33:16

But he needs to be able to justify it to his

1:33:18

boss. So if you hand your boss the paperwork saying,

1:33:21

here's what I'm ... here's

1:33:24

what my value is. Here's what I'm offered. And

1:33:26

here's the value that I provided. And your boss can then

1:33:28

go to his boss and say, this guy needs a raise.

1:33:30

And here's the value he's providing. Right?

1:33:34

Exploitors. He

1:33:37

says, exploiters do not care. Everything is

1:33:39

supply and demand. Exploitors

1:33:43

do not care. I know you're a bit

1:33:46

of a troll here, but because Steffi, you

1:33:48

know, Steffi, oh, so edgy, man. You put

1:33:50

E at the end of my name. You

1:33:52

drop the line. It's not Steffan. It's the

1:33:54

molyneux. Steffi. Steffi.

1:34:00

What a sad little thing. Exploiting is

1:34:02

to not care. Everything is supply and demand. Yeah, okay.

1:34:04

Everything is supply and demand. Yeah, business is business, right?

1:34:08

Everything is supply and demand. Sure.

1:34:13

And if you say that you're in demand, then they'll supply you

1:34:15

more money. All

1:34:21

right, well listen guys, I really, really do

1:34:23

appreciate everything you've done, except for this image

1:34:25

of Queen Elizabeth II in a Freddie Mercury

1:34:28

outfit saying, Queen performing at Live Aid 1985.

1:34:31

That, I'm afraid, has burned into my

1:34:34

brain. Dear

1:34:37

Lord, mama just started a war.

1:34:39

All right, so I

1:34:42

appreciate that. And you have to have confidence. Mr.

1:34:46

Molyneux sounds way too formal. Yeah, yeah, could be,

1:34:48

could be. All right, well listen guys, I really

1:34:50

do appreciate. I

1:34:52

had an English teacher named Mr. Molyneux, a great big

1:34:54

man who shouted really loud. Well,

1:34:56

I'm very glad that that has changed into

1:34:59

a medium-sized man. I'm taller than average,

1:35:01

who shouts really loud. All right, thanks

1:35:03

again for a great evening, freedomain.com/donate to

1:35:06

help out the show. Really would appreciate

1:35:08

it. If you'd like to help out the show, I

1:35:11

might, I might, I might, I

1:35:13

might, I might, I

1:35:15

might, do an in-person

1:35:17

meetup. Really

1:35:19

been thinking about it. Really

1:35:24

thinking about it, because I think I can get

1:35:26

places that can't be canceled. I

1:35:31

think that I can get, would you guys,

1:35:33

would you guys like to meet up in person? I think it'd

1:35:35

be a blast. I think it'd be great fun. We

1:35:38

could play some volleyball. And

1:35:42

where would the meetup be? Well,

1:35:45

I think it would be someplace in the States. Yeah,

1:35:48

I think, I would love to meet y'all. I really would, I think

1:35:50

it'd be great. Hugs all

1:35:52

around. Yeah, I think, I

1:35:55

think, I think I'd do it in the States, but I

1:35:57

think it would be great. Be

1:35:59

wonderful. to meet up. And if I can get a place that

1:36:01

can't be cancelled? 2025? I don't know. I

1:36:03

don't know. I'm

1:36:06

not sure, right? I don't know. Maybe right

1:36:08

around election season when everyone's distracted or something

1:36:11

like that. Maybe that. Maybe

1:36:14

that. But yeah, I think that would be fun. And we used

1:36:16

to do them years ago, so... Yeah,

1:36:21

after the start of this show, I hope it's outside of

1:36:23

Toronto, that's right. You

1:36:26

can use OBS and show us stuff on screen if you

1:36:28

want to do a stream like that. Yes, that's true. Yes,

1:36:32

that is true. I can even

1:36:35

do that on... I've got a presentation. Yeah,

1:36:37

I got a presentation format here I can use, right? Oh

1:36:41

yeah, but that's not going to work because... Yeah.

1:36:45

Yeah, but I can do that for sure. If you came

1:36:47

to England, I would meet you. Oh, interesting. Interesting.

1:36:50

2024 in USA, I will for sure

1:36:52

meet you. Yeah, okay. Well,

1:36:54

I will keep that on my radar and

1:36:57

we will hopefully get something like that done. Because honestly,

1:37:00

it would be a blast to meet everyone and it's

1:37:02

a really, really great time. We used to

1:37:04

do these years ago and Orlando is a

1:37:06

good spot. Yeah? Okay. Okay,

1:37:08

but I need a place that can't be canceled, right? All

1:37:13

right, well thanks everyone. I appreciate the

1:37:16

feedback. Free demand.com/donate. Thank you everyone

1:37:18

for a lovely evening. I will

1:37:21

talk to you guys Friday night and don't

1:37:23

forget I actually have posted

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1:37:39

Are you related to Hugh Molyneux, the

1:37:42

Earl? I assume so. Yo Steph, I haven't

1:37:44

had a chance to follow you in a while. Lie. Not

1:37:47

since the boom period to the mid teens.

1:37:49

What's your thoughts on the new wave of pro men's

1:37:51

TradCon video content? I think a lot of it is

1:37:53

good. A lot of it is a

1:37:55

lot of sour grapes. But if you want

1:37:58

to know where I stand on men's rights, more on that. Thanks. novel

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to read given how I work with Christianity in

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and it's like damn I've

1:38:27

already read it since 2019 no

1:38:29

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but nice try alright guys thanks

1:38:34

a mil I'll talk to you Friday night

1:38:36

7 p.m. we'll meet up on Skype and

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freedomain.com/donate thanks for the great questions and comments

1:38:40

tonight lots of love from up here I'll talk to you

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