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2nd, 2024. Welcome

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to the Giant Bombcast, episode 847, powered

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by NZXT. I am your host

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today, GM Ochoa, Chef

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Grub, Jeff Bakkler out on assignment. Everything's

1:53

broken. Dan also out on assignment.

1:56

Run, everyone. If you've ever seen us in

1:58

person, shook our hands. Give

2:01

a warm hug. Your body is going to

2:03

break down soon. And that is just a

2:05

guarantee we Are

2:09

our own star player? I

2:12

use that last week. I'm gonna continue to use again because

2:14

the statement is still true. It's good good Lucy

2:17

James Mmm Hello,

2:20

so I'm just pouring my coffee. So if you're

2:22

listening at home, that's what that sound Coffee

2:25

or peeing into a cup and don't even

2:27

ask but I wanted to shout out ABC because they

2:29

got me this mug I believe Giant

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bomb live and it's my new like

2:34

I rotate my mugs around and so

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this is this Snoopy mugs Weaken

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the Sun and I love it so much. Thank you

2:41

ABC Speaking about a

2:43

week in the Sun. We are graced with

2:45

his presence his his shank He shines bright

2:47

like a diamond and the Sun to more

2:49

Hussein. Oh You talking

2:52

about someone else there. Hello. I am drinking

2:54

from a Water bottle

2:56

that has this dumb Batman on it. I speaking

2:59

about that man He's

3:01

our own Batman. He's our caped

3:03

crusader. He he perches on rooftops

3:07

he hangs out with gargoyles He's

3:11

he's he avenges us he's he has a

3:13

strategy to take us all down and I'm

3:15

scared that I'm next Like

3:17

the naughty. I have a tortured pass in

3:19

a dark alter ego and I'm drinking from the

3:21

subway cup filled with mostly Diet

3:24

Coke you put a splash of just normal. Dr.

3:26

Pepper in there though, and it kind of just

3:28

tastes like dr. Pepper. It's nice We

3:32

we laid down some a challenge

3:34

in certain parameters for Mike which is

3:36

going to be very difficult because of my

3:38

show-and-tell segment here Yeah, I Went

3:41

to a Giants game over the weekend the game started

3:43

at one But there was a certain

3:45

giveaway and then my partner and

3:47

I thought well we we we need this

3:50

giveaway So let's get there

3:52

at 10 o'clock Way too early

3:54

for a baseball game And

3:56

then you know, I got mixed feelings already on

3:58

baseball, especially the same Francisco Giants,

4:00

but Mike Minotti look at this new

4:02

silly hat I got Okay.

4:05

Oh, that's interesting. It seems to

4:07

have two circular objects attached to

4:09

the top of it in a kind

4:13

of symmetrical pattern Does

4:15

it doesn't remind me of anything specifically

4:17

though? pretty

4:20

cool though Jan Audio

4:24

listeners can't see it, but Mike is just like

4:26

straining right now You see the vein in his

4:28

forehead as he's not mean kids. Yeah My

4:32

best friend Tim happy they want me to not

4:34

talk about something specifically here and I'm gonna show

4:37

Tim that I can do it My

4:41

other favorite observation from the weekend at this baseball

4:43

game We're playing against the Dodgers and as a

4:47

Bay Area resident born and raised I've

4:49

been conditioned to hate the Dodgers for no

4:51

specific reason other than them being from LA

4:55

But I could not hate on

4:57

the adorable little old Asian

4:59

women with their Shohei Oh Tani

5:02

jerseys Repping for

5:04

Shohei. I'm like damn There's

5:06

two people that love Shohei Oh Tani the

5:08

most all these old Asian women and Michael

5:10

Haim Loves

5:13

him. Yeah, oh hey for Shohei.

5:15

Yeah, what that cool? That's

5:17

what they're called today, baby should be when

5:19

I was should be when I was in

5:21

little Tokyo recently I guess that's really close

5:23

to where the Dodgers play because everybody was

5:25

walking around in Dodgers uniforms and

5:28

stuff. There's all sorts of stuff even a little

5:30

Tokyo for them Thought

5:32

that was neat. How's everyone doing? How's

5:34

the weekend? Good? I'm saying I'm seeing

5:36

the Beach Boys tonight They're

5:39

still alive Some of them must be

5:41

I don't know how many But enough of

5:43

them are alive that they are performing in

5:45

Youngstown, Ohio tonight as of the Beach Boys

5:47

So is uncle Jesse gonna be there? I

5:49

hope so Uh, maybe

5:53

think of something I can't talk about. Yeah, I

5:55

hope uncle Jesse is there We

5:57

have similar interests that I won't go into

5:59

detail about me and him. Oh. Yeah.

6:01

But yeah, I have no idea what to

6:03

expect. We're taking my mom as like an

6:06

early birthday gift. But

6:08

yeah, I don't know. Like, I guess

6:10

it'll be neat to say I saw

6:13

the Beach Boys in some form or

6:15

another. I'm not really sure what to

6:17

be expecting quality wise or authenticity wise

6:19

here. But whatever. I'll get a beer.

6:22

I'll watch them play their guitars and

6:24

talk about waves in the ocean and

6:26

you know. Are they the Kokomo? They

6:29

are, but that's the one that Nicole Jessie

6:31

is really involved with. OK. Yeah. I

6:34

associate Kokomo with the Muppets. I

6:36

associate with the Trolls. I had a

6:39

VHS tape with like Muppet

6:41

Trolls actually, like made by Jim Henson Muppets.

6:43

And it was just a vignette of music

6:45

videos. And one of them was Kokomo. So

6:47

that's what I think about it. The Beach Boys is a big thing over

6:49

there for y'all. I mean, I

6:52

enjoyed the Beach Boys a lot. This

6:54

tour is very intense, by the way. July

6:57

all the way through to the

6:59

end of October. Oh,

7:01

dang. I mean, who's the touring

7:03

band? For

7:05

more than six decades, members

7:08

Brian Wilson, Mike Love, Al

7:10

Jardine, and then all of them

7:12

have social networks. And then there's Dennis Wilson, Carl

7:14

Wilson, Bruce Johnston, and David Marks, which is the

7:16

one who was involved with the Manson Family. Oh.

7:20

What do you mean involved? How

7:23

involved? I would like to know. No,

7:30

didn't one of them, like the

7:32

Mansons, basically tried to befriend and

7:35

then played music

7:38

with them? Oh, no. OK.

7:40

Something like that. Yeah, I mean look.

7:42

I'd have to Google it. OK, well, I believe

7:44

you. But like. Was that Uncle Jesse? Uncle

7:47

Jesse. I thought I think a little bit more.

7:49

Charles Manson Beach Boys. Charles Manson

7:51

Beach Boys. Yeah. Never

7:54

Learn Not To Love was a song

7:56

recorded by the American rock band The

7:58

Beach Boys, credited to Dennis Wilson. and the

8:00

song is an altered version of Cease to Exist written

8:02

by the Manson Family cult leader, Charles Manson. Oh

8:04

no. Oh yeah, I remember this. Yeah. Oh. Cause

8:08

Mitson also has a thing with the Beatles and

8:10

he thought that Helter Skelter was some kind of

8:12

order for him to kill people, right? So he

8:14

has a weird relationship with music. Interesting.

8:17

Well, I see here, July 28th,

8:20

Lucy Tampf, if

8:22

y'all aren't doing anything, they're gonna be in Sunny San

8:24

Jose. Tickeys are- A little

8:26

road trip down. Wait for

8:28

my review. Let me, let's see what these Beach

8:30

Boy fellas got in the year of our Lord

8:32

2024. And I'll let you

8:34

know if it's worth a little trip or not.

8:36

I don't even know where they're playing. I don't

8:38

know this, I don't know this venue. I

8:41

mean, yeah, I also, I saw, I saw the who when

8:44

they were like 70 and

8:46

they were still good. Still really

8:48

good. What do you want

8:50

to call him? The Rolling

8:52

Stones still killing it. So I don't

8:55

know. I was the oldest person

8:57

I saw. I saw Bob Seger like three

8:59

or four years ago. He was very old and it

9:01

was still fun. I saw

9:03

Paul McCartney probably like 12 years ago now

9:06

and he was like old then, but it was

9:08

still great. So yeah, I'm sure it'll

9:10

be fun. Plus it's Youngstown, Ohio, so I don't have to like

9:13

drive to some city. It's like a 10 minute drive. So yeah,

9:15

what the hell, we'll go. Do

9:20

you think they have new music? Do

9:22

you think they've updated the Beach Boys

9:24

vibe? Come on, they better

9:26

not. They better not be like,

9:29

where's the Beach Boys? Here's our new song.

9:31

Come on. Yeah, they are surfing

9:33

USA. Okay, they are, you know, come

9:35

on. Play Pet Sounds. Yeah, that's like,

9:37

come on. Who's that other

9:39

band that showed up to San Francisco

9:42

recently and took over the, a Grateful Dead?

9:44

Oh yeah. It was the last show.

9:47

It was the last proper show and there were a bunch

9:49

of dead heads. We went to get brunch and

9:51

like the entire restaurant was just

9:53

full of dead heads. And there was like one person

9:55

being like, I've seen them over a hundred times. And

9:58

I was like, I love that. I just seemed

10:00

to hang out in that area because we went

10:02

to get brunch again at the same place the

10:05

other day and on the walk there, I

10:07

saw two people wearing a Grateful Dead T-shirts.

10:11

So I was like, oh, maybe they just hang out

10:13

in this area. There's a lot of Grateful Dead heads

10:16

hanging out in SF at all times. Yeah,

10:18

I feel like that's where they complicate. They're the

10:21

ones with the bear, right? The beanie baby? No,

10:23

that's why there's a Grateful Dead bear. I don't know. Garcia

10:26

was the most rare beanie baby for

10:28

a bit and it was named after

10:30

the Garcia of the Grateful Bad. You got this bear everywhere

10:33

in this city. And don't forget the

10:35

Ben and Jerry's flavor, Cherry

10:38

Garcia. Yes, yes. Oh God,

10:40

I could go for ice cream. I don't know if

10:42

I can name a Grateful Dead song. I gotta be

10:44

honest. I don't think I've ever heard a Grateful

10:46

Dead song either. Right. It's

10:49

like, I can imagine the vibe, right? If

10:52

you told me like name the song or to sing one, I

10:55

don't know. I'm in trouble. Yeah,

10:58

I couldn't do this. I can't do it

11:00

either. They never had hits. Okay,

11:02

that's interesting. I think I would confuse them

11:04

with the dire straits. If

11:06

I like convinced myself that Saltin' of

11:08

Swing was a Grateful Dead song, I might be able

11:10

to pull that off. This is

11:13

because my brain is slightly Disney-pilled,

11:15

but sometimes whenever I see the Grateful Dead

11:17

skull, of course, never you, Mike. I'm

11:19

sorry for even mentioning it. Yes, please. It's so

11:21

annoying when you bring this up. I know, it's

11:23

my one thing. I always

11:26

think they're Grateful Dead skull, how

11:28

it looks like the Pepsi logo. I always think

11:30

it's the Rescue Rangers icon or

11:33

the logo, and it gives me a

11:35

little pop. Oh yeah, it kinda does, yeah. I'm

11:39

not familiar with that program. Mike,

11:41

it's okay. It's all right, it's all right. You

11:43

don't have to hide anymore. It's safe-based. Probably doesn't have a banging

11:45

theme song or anything with

11:48

any credible sex solo. Probably doesn't,

11:50

yeah. Everyone else is

11:52

good, we're okay. It's gonna be a shorter

11:54

week here at GBHQ because

11:56

of the holidays. We

11:59

don't gotta talk about these. I just want to talk about. Well,

12:02

what's happened? Something happened recently to hurt

12:04

anybody's patriotism? What? No way. Never,

12:07

never. OK, so I was at

12:09

a county fair, right? And I'm going to one

12:11

this week. Is it is

12:14

it the Alameda County Fair? No, I'm

12:16

going Marin. Oh, no. But

12:18

the problem is, the problem is, Jan, we're

12:20

going to get hit with a heat wave this week. Yeah.

12:23

And we're getting hit with it now. It's

12:25

not me. I live on top

12:27

of a hill. Yeah, it must be in your

12:30

your neighborhood is always way warmer than mine. But

12:32

last year we went to the county fair. It

12:34

was the hottest day of the year. And

12:37

that was, you know, not even with a

12:39

heat wave. So I'm genuinely concerned that I

12:41

will melt like the

12:44

wicked witch of the east. I don't know. I've never seen like it.

12:46

The west is the one who melts, I believe.

12:49

Yeah. Well, what a world. What a world.

12:51

So he's always playing here. You've never seen

12:53

it. What,

12:55

wicked? Yeah. No, never seen it. I don't

12:57

know any. No, wait. Is fabulous the song

12:59

from Wicked? No. Oh, no. That's fine. He's

13:02

got to find gravity. Of course.

13:05

The sharp pays hit song in high school

13:07

musical, too. Only

13:10

comes second to bet on it, though. Popular

13:13

is what you may be familiar is what I mean.

13:16

Popular is what I. But the problem is with

13:18

with Wicked is the movie's lighting looks really flat.

13:20

I don't I don't know. Well, that's the movie.

13:23

We don't got to worry about the movie. The

13:25

musical is great. OK, you know

13:27

what, Jenna, I'll make a point to go see it. No,

13:29

no, no. We're going to go see it. Mike, you're invited.

13:31

Good, because I've actually never seen Wicked. Oh,

13:34

yeah. I'm still bitter. My brother's which one.

13:36

Yes, the one it's the Wizard of Oz

13:38

one where it's like that's a new to

13:40

Disney or no. No, that's MGM stuff. Don't

13:42

worry, we're good. It's MGM,

13:45

GM, GM, GM, public domain. It's fine.

13:48

But yeah, my brothers with the sea at one time and it was like

13:50

a double date for them, and they're like, you can't go. It's

13:52

like, I want to see what? I

13:56

still give a crap for it. Mike, we'll rectify that. Please.

13:59

Sure. You could come, no,

14:02

you could bring two dates if you want. And

14:04

then we'll just awkwardly sit behind you. There we

14:06

go, yeah. Hey, Lucy, what are you doing? That's

14:09

what you're getting. It'll be one of those fun situations

14:11

where you have two dates and you gotta balance between

14:14

both at the same time. Oh, just gotta keep

14:16

going, oh, I'm gonna go get popcorn. Oh, I'm

14:18

gonna go to the bathroom. Okay. Missed

14:20

out via effect. Yeah, like a bad 90s sitcom

14:22

episode, okay. Yeah, I'm into that. I'm sorry, Jack.

14:24

I mean, that's our. I was gonna say, you

14:26

said you were going to a, fair,

14:31

you went to a county fair. Yo,

14:33

too hot, I can't do Pleasanton. Pleasanton

14:35

way too hot. Yeah. I

14:38

never wanna go again. It was

14:40

unpleasanton. He was very unpleasanton. Also,

14:42

despite knowing that the Alameda County

14:44

Fair and knowing how counties work,

14:47

I keep thinking this county fair is gonna be

14:50

so much closer and be in Alameda. No. Gonna

14:52

have to drive an hour away to Pleasanton. No,

14:54

no bueno. Yeah, it's fine. Did

14:57

you see him? But done.

15:00

Did you see the piglet racing? I

15:02

did see the piglet racing, actually. Very

15:05

good puns. I

15:08

wanted to volunteer to be one

15:10

of the judges, but then they

15:13

picked the children over me and I can't do

15:15

anything. The child was, yeah. Yeah.

15:17

Yeah. Our big fair's in August. It's called

15:20

the Canfield Fair. I'm not really a big

15:22

fan of the fair. I gotta be honest.

15:24

It's a lot. It's

15:27

a lot with the smells and the

15:30

animals. The sounds. The sounds, the

15:32

rides, I don't know. We had our

15:34

local fireworks on Saturday and they bring

15:36

out some of those trucks there and

15:38

that's enough for me. I'll get my

15:40

fried cheese on a stick thing

15:43

and watch fireworks. That's all the fair

15:45

flavor that I need. I

15:47

remember why I brought it up now. There

15:50

was a local school

15:53

art fair showcase in

15:55

one of the booths. Oh yeah. And

15:58

there was a certain wood. interpretation of

16:00

the American flag that maybe

16:03

favors other people

16:05

of a certain profession over others. Oh

16:07

no. And then I was like, huh,

16:09

that's cool. This is supposed to be

16:11

wood and you painted that, that

16:14

specific line, the color blue.

16:16

Okay. Interesting. Fun. Interesting. You got third place. All

16:18

right. Suck it kid. They go third place. They

16:20

got third place. I don't know how many kids

16:23

entered. That's like worse than getting nothing. I don't

16:25

want third place. I hope it was one. Third

16:28

place means that you did notice me and thought

16:30

it wasn't good enough for anything but the worst

16:32

surprise. We did like turn around

16:34

and there were a bunch of like little kid poems

16:37

on the wall and I was like, oh, this is

16:39

going to be good. I love little kid poems and

16:41

see how they interpret the world. They're all bad. They're

16:43

all bad. The kids suck these days. When I went

16:45

to, some kids are great.

16:48

Yeah. So yeah. When I went to

16:50

the Alameda County Fair, they have those little,

16:52

they have little, like

16:55

little exhibits, I guess. Did

16:57

you see this? And then one. Exhibit

17:00

was that no. And so one of them was just

17:02

spam, a whole exhibit about

17:05

spam. Hell yeah. Wait, like email spam

17:07

or the meat? No, the meat. Hell

17:09

yeah. The meat. Spams had something

17:11

of a glow. When I was a kid, it was

17:13

just the subject of jokes. It was supposed to be

17:15

disgusting. And now I see like YouTube like, spam's great.

17:17

Fry up some spam. It's the best thing you've ever

17:20

eaten. I might have to try spam finally. Mikey, I

17:22

like next time I see, are you okay with seaweed?

17:25

No, I don't like the seaweed taste flavor. I mean, look, if

17:27

you want me to eat some seaweed, I'll eat some seaweed. It's

17:30

not an apple thing where it's a phobia. I'll

17:32

eat some seaweed if you think it's integral to

17:34

your spam plan. Yes, it's integral to

17:36

my spam plan. Kind of is, yeah. In

17:39

Hawaii, one of my favorite things that I bought

17:41

from Maui was a special edition can of spam.

17:43

It was great. Oh. What

17:46

was special edition about it? It

17:48

was just more yellow in the front with a flower.

17:50

Ooh. It was

17:53

very special. I did not bust

17:55

open the spam despite being hungry. I wish we

17:57

were gonna have spam. You gotta save that. We're

18:00

gonna have spam and we're gonna watch wicked

18:02

and get her see the Beach Boys That is

18:04

the plan for the rest of the summer Mike

18:07

you're invited everyone else listening right now. You're also

18:09

invited right now We gotta talk about video games

18:18

Never never microwave spam don't God

18:21

bless my great-late grandmother, but never microwave

18:24

spam for your love Don't

18:26

do it. Don't do it That's

18:30

a weird out song maybe that's why I

18:33

assume spam was a joke My

18:35

TikTok is giving me so many clips of

18:38

that weird owl movie Apparently

18:42

it's really good. I mean like I really

18:44

enjoyed the clips and it like Daniel Radcliffe

18:46

is singing like he's no he's not No,

18:52

it's just weirdo is it actually army it

18:54

looks de-synced in a way all the clips

18:57

look like a second a millisecond off And

18:59

you can tell he's he's like something weird

19:01

is going on. Yeah, it's it's I think

19:03

it's all purposeful though It's a good movie.

19:06

That's the guy I may have seen live

19:08

more than anyone else is weird No

19:11

weird out especially as a kid God,

19:14

I think I saw what I saw him

19:16

three times in one tour the running with

19:18

scissors tour the legend legendary one No, this

19:20

checks out this checks out you

19:23

know weird owls had to dance

19:25

through a lot of Weird

19:27

copyright and IP laws can be very dangerous

19:29

and dealing with just like it's dangerous to

19:31

deal with Elden ring shadow of the urge

19:34

tree. Oh, yeah Mike

19:36

says you've played this here and I know that

19:39

Tam and Lucy have played it but I'm not

19:41

sure adventures. I finished it I Beat

19:44

it over the weekend. Ah, but yeah.

19:46

Yep. I got through the whole thing.

19:48

I Got all the

19:51

major remembrances. So I fought all of

19:53

the major bosses The last

19:55

boss if I can't too specific it,

19:57

you know, everyone's talking about it's hard

19:59

and it was It took me 43

20:01

attempts, I know, but

20:04

it was a lot of fun. I mean, how

20:06

disappointing would it be if the last boss wasn't

20:09

hard, right? I mean, it's kind of

20:11

the last boss of all of Elden

20:13

Ring at this point. So, yeah, it

20:15

should be this impressive challenge

20:17

and it's this very dramatic fight. It's a

20:19

very cool fight. I may have even had

20:21

an advantage, it's hard to tell, but it

20:23

seems like people think a shield build is

20:26

the way to go. And that just happens to have been

20:28

my build throughout all of Elden Ring.

20:30

I think that's fair because in base Elden Ring,

20:32

like millennia, maybe I'm missing something. Shields were really

20:34

bad against her because her Scarlet Rot thing just

20:36

went through the shield. So, blocking did nothing on

20:38

that one. So, like, that was a fight, at

20:41

least for me. I just like, I got to

20:43

just summon other people and I'm going to kind

20:45

of do my best, whatnot. No, we're done. I

20:47

was able to do with just me and the

20:49

Mimic and, you know, boy, the Mimic does help.

20:52

I actually never got the Mimic

20:54

tier until trying that fight for Billy. This is

20:56

pretty hard. Everyone's like, you should probably get the

20:58

Mimic tier. It's like, okay, I guess I'll finally

21:00

do that. And yeah, that was

21:02

a big help. Along with, you know, the Skibbity

21:05

tree fragments, I got to level 16, the Maxis

21:07

20. So, I had to get all

21:09

of them, but 16 was enough to

21:12

get me there. But yeah, it was, you know, it just,

21:14

it felt really great to beat that boss.

21:17

The bosses in general, I thought, were really

21:19

neat. Some of my favorite in the whole

21:21

game. Like, the first three major ones, that

21:23

Lion, the Moon Girl, and then Mesmer, all

21:26

were really, really cool. That dragon, you fight

21:28

on top of the mountain with that guy

21:30

that Grub killed immediately because he has no

21:32

soul. It's a bale. Yeah.

21:36

Just screaming. I love that

21:39

for him. So yeah, I

21:41

had a really good time with the expansion. I don't want

21:43

to get too much into the difficulty discourse other than to

21:45

me, it did not seem that

21:47

different from my experience with base Eldering. Again, that

21:49

last boss was hard, but of course

21:52

it is. It's the last boss.

21:54

It wasn't anything that I wasn't able

21:56

to overcome eventually. Yeah. I

21:59

have decided. I'm just gonna wait until

22:02

maybe September, October to

22:05

go into Shadow of the Urg Tree. Gonna

22:07

wait for all the heat to die down. Gonna wait for

22:09

everyone else to figure everything else out. A lot of games

22:11

coming out around then, Jan. Yeah,

22:14

you're in a bit of a dead zone where

22:17

playing something like this is perfect. Well,

22:20

see, this is like the dead zone that we're

22:22

in, and I was thinking like, well, I know

22:24

what to expect with Shadow of the Urg Tree.

22:26

Maybe we go explore the back catalog of a

22:29

bunch of miscellaneous crap. That's

22:32

a very frequent trap that

22:34

people fall into where

22:37

they add a massive game to their backlist, and I'm

22:39

like, I'll play this later. I'll play a small game

22:41

right now. I wanna

22:43

just maybe take a Sunday or something and

22:45

just dedicate the whole day of like, all

22:48

right, I got like two more hours in

22:50

this game, an hour left in that game.

22:52

Mop it up. Let's just stay. Oh, no.

22:54

Ooh, good old mop up. Grab the old mop up.

22:57

I like it. Good old mop up. How

22:59

many times has that gone well for you? It's

23:02

never gone well, and then I always wait until the week

23:04

before we leave for Game of the Year. It's

23:06

like, all right, cool. It only

23:08

really works if you know specifically like one

23:11

or two games that you need to finish

23:13

up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the

23:16

problem is, for me, I

23:18

would definitely be motivated once I get into Elden

23:20

Ring to just stick with the rhythm because like,

23:22

you know, the muscle memory is so important. I've

23:25

taken so much time now from Final

23:28

Fantasy VII Rebirth that I don't know

23:30

if I wanna go back. Yeah, you were saying that. I don't know

23:32

if I wanna mop it up. I think you and Jeff were saying

23:34

that, yeah, it's fine. Look, as somebody who's, that's their Game of the

23:36

Year, it probably, it hurts a little bit, but I get it. I

23:39

get it if you don't have as much of

23:41

like an attachment to them. Oh, yeah, but you

23:43

know, I'm a big Final Fantasy guy and I

23:45

just. That's true. I'm like a

23:47

sicko, like the thing people complain about the game,

23:50

like there's too many mini games. I love that

23:52

shit. Oh, the stupider, the mini game, the better.

23:54

I'm like, oh yeah, this feels like a PS1

23:56

game in all the ways that's really scratching in

23:58

it for me. I love that garbage. I

24:01

just want to see the ending though, because of

24:03

how polarizing it seemed to be when it came

24:05

out. YouTube it. It's

24:09

fine, dog. Like is, I

24:12

maintain that it's one of the worst pace games I've

24:14

played in a long time. Okay. But

24:17

if you really just want to see the ending, like just

24:20

hit the YouTube man. Yeah, it's

24:22

interesting. I mean, you know, I

24:24

don't want to get too into it, but you could

24:26

still enjoy the game knowing what the ending, I mean,

24:28

hey, look, in some ways, I mean, it's a remake

24:31

you write the ending, we kind of know what it

24:33

is and you can see this interpretation of it and

24:35

you still want to play the game, you'll

24:37

be fine. Kind

24:40

of going back to Elder Ring, it is interesting

24:42

like seeing like a bit more discourses kind of

24:45

pop up about it. I'm seeing some criticisms laid

24:47

out about how some of the map feel, people

24:49

are saying unfinished and I think that's maybe a

24:52

bit rough, but I don't know if you've seen

24:54

this, Tam, like people are kind of complaining about

24:56

some of those more bonus areas and how kind

24:58

of relatively empty or less dense

25:00

they can feel compared to kind of that,

25:02

like that sort of left area of the

25:04

map, that's kind of where all of the

25:06

main path is, right? And then when you're

25:08

going off to like those giant ruined areas

25:12

where it's nothing, but you kind of

25:14

ride your horse to the

25:16

hand and you blow into the horn,

25:18

right? I think that's something people point

25:20

out. Yeah, that's a narrative thing. Yeah,

25:22

it doesn't bother me. Yeah, I feel

25:25

like that's area. It's

25:27

not designed to be a thing where you

25:30

really explore and like

25:32

fight a bunch of enemies. It has a major

25:35

narrative purpose. Like that

25:37

area is huge implications for the story

25:40

and character stuff. So, and

25:42

it's meant to be arresting instead of challenging. So when

25:44

I got there, I spent a lot of time in

25:46

there looking around and trying to figure out what was

25:48

going on and what it meant, but it

25:50

doesn't have loads of boss. I mean, one

25:53

of them has a boss, but you kind of have to

25:56

go to two other ones before you get to it. So

25:58

it has a lot of it serves a function

26:01

I think is more is

26:04

as important as having loads of gameplay

26:06

opportunities there. If

26:08

I had any actual like criticisms,

26:11

I don't love the way the side quests work

26:13

even in base owner ring where I

26:15

really would have no idea what is a

26:18

side quest or how to progress a side

26:20

quest without like, you know, the online guides.

26:23

And like I know it's like, that's kind of the fun of

26:25

it. It's like, oh, it's like the schoolyard thing yet to kind

26:27

of talk to people to figure out what it is. But this

26:29

day and age, it really is just, well, I'm going to Google,

26:31

what am I supposed to do next? And a

26:33

lot of times it's kind of like random, like,

26:36

okay, Lita saying this, I need her to say

26:38

that. Well, you have to talk to this person

26:40

and do this thing. It's sometimes nonsensical, right? I

26:42

mean, there's like the one thing where, you know,

26:44

without too many spoilers, you do something and it

26:46

kills you like, well, that's bad, right? It's like,

26:48

well, no, do that, let it kill you three

26:50

more times. And then maybe something happens. And you

26:52

know, it's very cryptic. And I

26:54

get the crypticness is part of the fun

26:56

of it. Yeah, it's more a case of

26:58

like the general rule has been since Demon's

27:01

Souls, like once you do anything significant or

27:03

you feel like you've done a certain

27:07

amount of progress, you should do a sweep of all

27:09

the NPCs where you know they are and just talk

27:11

to them. And they kind of

27:13

make that a little easier by putting icons

27:15

on the map to say like, here's where

27:17

the NPCs are. So like the best practices

27:19

just speak to everyone because chances are they'll

27:21

have something you'd say unless they're a vendor,

27:23

in which case they'll probably just say the

27:25

same thing over and over again. But

27:28

I feel like there's only really one

27:30

that I lost track calls because I

27:32

just kept sweeping through everyone. It takes

27:34

like a couple minutes to do

27:36

it anyway. Usually they're mostly located

27:38

in the same areas like the, the,

27:41

the, the, um, uh, Mespers,

27:44

Carlos has a bunch of, yeah,

27:46

Mespers, Mespers area, but also like

27:48

the Mikolas ruins. They're usually hanging

27:50

around there. Um, it's, yeah, it's

27:53

basic kind of like RPG style

27:55

approach to it. Well,

27:57

the other thing that may be bugged me, you

27:59

know, The Skippity Tree Fragments, I think that was

28:01

a smart system to have the power kind of

28:03

scale to this new thing instead of it just

28:06

being player level. But it kind of got to

28:08

a point where, you know, every time you go

28:10

off a beaten path or you fight a boss

28:12

or something, you want specifically those Skippity Tree Shadow

28:15

Tree Fragments so much that if

28:17

you got almost anything else, it was kind of

28:19

like, well, this is worthless, like, right? It's like,

28:21

oh great, another Ash of War that isn't the

28:23

Mimic tier or another spell and I'm a strength

28:25

build. It's like, you know, it did kind of

28:27

become like, it's a scavenger hunt for this one

28:30

item and everything else is bad

28:32

news. Yeah, I think the thing that they- Oh, I was

28:35

gonna say, so they moved stuff around

28:37

from the review build to the

28:40

main release. Like, they actually moved items.

28:43

And unfortunately now that means I have no

28:45

idea where the Thorn Ash of War is.

28:48

I followed like, I was like, I was seeing everyone saying,

28:50

oh my God, it's really fun, it's like really broken. I

28:52

wanted to try it out. And I

28:54

went back and I looked at my inventory, I don't have it.

28:56

I went to the place where all the YouTube and all the

28:58

guides say that it is and it's not there. And I'm just

29:00

like, well, shit. So

29:03

I wonder how much else has... Yeah,

29:08

I think the thing that they did really well

29:10

in the base game that they could have done

29:12

here, but they chose not to for some reason

29:14

is have more, in the base game, they had

29:17

more golden seeds than you need. Yes.

29:19

You can like have an excess

29:21

of them and have like max

29:23

out all the stats on that

29:25

you would use the golden seed for. Whereas the

29:27

skivity fragments, there are an exact amount. And it

29:30

means that if you like don't,

29:33

like for example, I've got like maybe a few

29:35

that I haven't collected. I have no idea where

29:37

they are. Right, at this point I can't remember

29:39

where they are. And like, thankfully,

29:41

like I'm still playing the game. So I'm

29:43

running around and doing stuff for Fonzies, but

29:46

the only way for me to really figure it out is

29:48

to sit down with a guide and

29:50

go to each one, one by one and see if

29:52

they're there. Yeah. That's

29:56

what I'm waiting for. I'm waiting for folks to find me the most

29:58

critical path. And speaking about path. Tam you've

30:01

been following a certain path. Yes, you've

30:03

got us Exactly

30:05

couldn't coon it. I can't

30:07

say it you can do it I believe when you

30:09

give it another shot in to need to got me half

30:12

of the goddess nailed it you did it Sorry

30:17

Can't see got me part of the goddess demo for it

30:19

is out now. That's what I played It

30:22

was available to play at summer game fest But

30:25

I didn't get a chance to play it there. So I'm

30:27

very glad that they released the demo I think it's the

30:29

same build very interesting game

30:32

It is decidedly old-school Capcom like in

30:34

that they made a game that is

30:36

very weird and it feels like

30:38

it's from the same stable as stuff like

30:41

Oh come Ian and like God hand and

30:43

view for Joe where they came up with

30:45

a weird weird idea I can't

30:48

that would make the podcast bad They

30:51

came over goofy idea and they're just running with

30:53

it not goofy but it's a it

30:55

is effectively a tower defense game Which

30:59

is which is interesting? But the whole

31:01

thing is like you you it looks

31:03

like you're climbing up a very very

31:05

very large mountain because I

31:07

like this is a stage select and it's

31:09

superimposed the the levels are superimposed over a

31:12

mountain and There's loads of shrines on the

31:14

way up there and I was like scrolling

31:16

down the mountain. It's like very

31:19

large and the setup is you

31:21

start on one side you have a princess or a goddess,

31:24

I guess and

31:26

and you effectively have to just Craft

31:29

a or carve a path through

31:31

like a miasma of demon darkness

31:34

in each level So that she can walk along it

31:37

or dance along it and there's a

31:39

day night cycle where at night Waves

31:42

of enemies appear and during the day you

31:44

have to run around and cleanse Villagers

31:46

and chop down these weird plants

31:49

that have been growing to collect

31:51

resources and use that to assign

31:53

roles upgrade roles

31:56

and then you know use it to carve

31:59

the path so you get these little

32:01

orbs and that effectively is

32:03

a kind of meter for

32:05

you. So you run up to where the

32:08

goddess is and you hold circle I think it

32:10

was and then you hold forward and your character

32:12

will run forward and kind of cut his way

32:14

through a darkness

32:16

path and create this

32:18

kind of golden

32:20

path for her to walk along. And then you can

32:22

do and then there's complexities like you can assign villagers

32:26

to quickly defend or attack

32:29

the you defend the goddess

32:31

or attack the target that you're on and then

32:33

there's like a character action light

32:35

game in there as well where you

32:37

directly control your character move them around

32:39

and do like you know square square

32:42

square triangle or square square square delay

32:44

triangle that kind of stuff to to

32:46

take out enemies and it works surprisingly

32:48

well it doesn't feel like it has

32:50

anything new idea wise in there but

32:53

I think they've just gone through and like

32:55

very put together a really tight loop and

32:57

then kind of encates that all

32:59

in in a very

33:02

Japanese very clover era aesthetic

33:06

for for the game and it's it works

33:08

really well surprisingly I'm not super into tower

33:10

defense games or I haven't been in a

33:13

long time yeah but I

33:15

enjoyed what I played the demo has

33:17

like a couple of stages in the boss fight and

33:20

a upgrade system that you can take a look

33:22

at which is fun you go into like a

33:24

town area that you're constantly coming back to and

33:27

then the princess or the goddess is sitting there

33:29

and you're like she's got a

33:31

table in front of her she's got a

33:33

couple of books and a plate with some

33:35

food on it and you interact with it

33:37

and it's an upgrade your character and upgrade

33:39

your villagers etc etc it's it seems fun

33:41

and it's also like very fireworksy which

33:43

I think is the kind of aesthetic they're

33:45

going for they're like I think they the

33:48

main thing is like everything you do is

33:50

like a firework sound it's like it's like

33:52

so weird but it also fun

33:54

it's very perfect for up upbeat in

33:56

a Yeah,

34:00

I played this at summer game fest and I see I

34:02

think it is just this demo that you're talking about and

34:04

I mean When I was shocked that it was so tower

34:06

defense see that my first saw that trail where I was

34:08

like Oh, they're just making a hack and slash So yeah,

34:10

even though like like tower defense isn't

34:12

my favorite thing either But I'm glad that there's

34:15

something here besides just a basic

34:17

hack and slash and I thought the boss fight

34:19

is specifically was cool Cuz there's almost a bit

34:21

more of a a pigment thing happening there as

34:23

opposed to tower defense with kind of setting your

34:25

people At the boss a certain times

34:27

and making them retreat at other times like

34:30

the combo system is neat too because It's

34:33

basically you have light attacks and heavy attacks and

34:35

every combo is like one light attack and heavy

34:37

attack Two light attacks and

34:39

heavy attack three and right so it's all

34:42

simple, but it's all does different things

34:45

So yeah, yeah, I was I was into

34:47

it there's also like a all certain enemies

34:49

have a Overshield that you need to use

34:51

specific attacks to bring down and then once

34:53

you factor that into the waves of enemies

34:55

you have like a target prior as a

34:57

characterization strategy that you need to come

35:00

up with and execute on and it's

35:03

It's got just enough moving parts to

35:05

keep Various parts of your own

35:07

brain occupied and your hands moving and it

35:09

has that Satisfaction of like I know I

35:11

need to do XYZ in this moment and

35:14

you quickly run and tick it off and

35:16

then You run back to

35:18

the goddess and move her forward and it has

35:20

that constant feeling or forward momentum And

35:22

when it does block you with you know a

35:25

large group of enemies you

35:27

have the tools available to you to

35:29

you know quickly shift strategies and Execute

35:31

on it and then go step

35:33

back and be like yeah I nailed that one and

35:35

carry on and if they if they

35:37

really I think the important thing is going to

35:39

be how do they structure the levels around this

35:42

because The the kind of setup

35:44

phase during the day has a nice like you

35:46

can't you move your character and also like run

35:48

around do these small areas, but How

35:51

elaborate does it become I can see it

35:53

becoming very very Like

35:55

overwhelming for some people because there's like loads of

35:58

paths and it's like you put one person person

36:00

here, one person there, and then you have to

36:02

sometimes move them around on the fly or run

36:04

up to them and change their their role quickly.

36:06

And I had situations sometimes where two characters were

36:09

being standing next to each other and I keep

36:11

accidentally changing the wrong role and I'd be like

36:13

hitting the UI is a bit messy. But

36:16

I think it's just a case of like, I'll get there

36:18

eventually. Once I've done it enough times, it

36:21

will it will click for me. When's the

36:23

last time you all enjoyed a tower defense game? It

36:26

said not usually my thing. Star Fox guard on

36:28

the Wii U. Oh boy. I

36:30

like I like a Bloons. Oh,

36:32

Bloons tower defense on iOS. Yeah,

36:35

that's good. Oh, if

36:37

13 Sentinels counts, you know, 13 Sentinels is

36:39

actually pretty great. I guess. OK, yeah. Kind

36:41

of. It's kind of strategy, kind of that.

36:43

Yeah, I guess the does the

36:45

mini game in Final Fantasy rebirth count? That's

36:48

pretty fun. Condo for

36:50

Condo. Yeah. Kind of

36:52

tower defense. Kind of more of a clash

36:54

royale like. Right. Yeah, I guess so. Don't

36:56

say that I might get activated. Oh,

36:59

there's a Bloons six. Yeah,

37:02

I think it's on Apple Arcade. There

37:06

was definitely a Bloons on arcade. Oh, my

37:08

God. I love I used to I used

37:10

to love Bloons. I never cared

37:12

for plants versus zombies. I just got admitted. Oh,

37:15

oh, you know, we can still be friends, but I. Yeah,

37:18

I didn't even think about plants versus zombies. But yeah,

37:20

that's what I'm one of those people who I will

37:22

get on a flight and I will just complete plants

37:24

versus zombies in one

37:26

sitting. So, OK, OK. Big

37:28

game. I remember one. What's

37:30

that? Oh, boy. I

37:34

enjoyed all the other aspects

37:36

of Brutal Legend other than the tower defense. I remember

37:38

like I don't know if this is where originally I

37:40

remember just playing tower defense games because they were custom

37:42

maps in Warcraft three. I think that's the first time

37:44

that is. I think

37:47

that's the origin of our defense. Yeah.

37:49

Yeah. That it was

37:51

like that. You played weird early Dota back

37:54

when it was actually a defense of the agents.

37:56

Stuff like that. Those were really stuff happening in

37:58

those custom maps back then. Speaking about

38:00

formulative stuff and places of origin a game that

38:02

I've been playing Ever

38:04

so slightly is until then

38:07

a game that takes place in

38:09

the Philippines my people's place of

38:11

origin What's

38:14

up what people is that what?

38:17

Filipino, okay Thought

38:23

it was funny question and then

38:25

I was right Jan's

38:31

him This is

38:33

another little story visual

38:35

novelty s game This

38:38

has kind of been my bag lately a thousand

38:41

times resist kind of got a little too deep

38:43

an existential for me Yeah,

38:47

yeah there were parts of it where I kind of had to

38:49

put the steam deck down Realize I

38:52

just taken 20 screenshots in the past

38:54

like five minutes. I'm like Yeah,

38:57

I'm gonna put this down It's making me think

38:59

too hard about my existence and my place in

39:01

the greater universe and whether any of it matters

39:03

I can't think like this right now at midnight

39:06

anyway, but until then is a very quaint coming-of-age

39:09

tale Set in

39:11

the Philippines and this Immediately

39:13

had me charmed from the get-go With

39:16

the little nuances to Filipino culture It

39:20

starts with kind of like a title text

39:22

crawl as it's going through about like who

39:24

I assume is the main character Kind of

39:26

reflecting on the events

39:28

of the game further into the game

39:31

and it's all set to the cheesiest

39:33

sad piano music that is So

39:36

prolific throughout Filipino cinema that I fucking

39:38

hate but hearing it here It's like

39:40

oh, they're doing the thing look at

39:42

them. Look at them. They're doing the

39:45

thing. Oh my god And

39:47

then yeah it I'm

39:50

a big proponent I think we all are

39:52

for representation in video games and it is really

39:54

cool to see stuff that I'm like semi-familiar

39:56

with Represented in a video game.

39:58

This takes place in Philippines

40:01

in 2014. So,

40:04

you know, we're just getting to the advancement of

40:06

like social media and how prolific that is. Oh

40:08

my God, the idea that 2014 is like some

40:10

like old date now. That's

40:13

upsetting, but okay. That's 10 years ago, buddy. I

40:15

guess it was, oh boy. And

40:18

it's fun so far because they do a

40:21

good job of mixing how they're telling the

40:23

story other than just straight up dialogue sequences

40:25

where, you know, your phone plays a big role

40:28

into it. Mark,

40:30

your player character, his relationship with

40:32

a piano also starts to play

40:34

into it and how music evolves

40:37

into it with his relationship with it. Yes,

40:39

Tam. Is Mark a Filipino name?

40:42

Yes, Mark is a huge Filipino name. Okay,

40:44

great. Just making sure. Nice to know, hi

40:46

Mark. Yes, yes, that's- Oh,

40:48

hi Mark. Thank you,

40:50

Mike. And yeah, there's like

40:52

just tons and tons of like little Easter eggs

40:55

alluding to Filipino culture. It's really heartwarming

40:57

to see. Even

40:59

down to having the player characters wear

41:01

uniforms to school because that's such a

41:04

big thing. In the Philippines, if having

41:06

uniforms to private schools and

41:08

then the main character being like, nah, I don't

41:10

want to take the bus, bus too dirty. And

41:12

then even seeing all of the litter on the

41:14

streets, I'm like, damn, that's home over there. That's

41:16

home. They allude,

41:18

of course, they of course have to allude

41:21

to Jollibee, but instead of doing Jollibee, they

41:23

have Angry Cow, I believe it's called. Very

41:25

good, very good. And yeah, some of the

41:27

background chatter is in Tagalog, which is really

41:29

neat to see. I really want

41:31

to, I have no idea how long this

41:33

is supposed to be. And I hope this doesn't

41:36

give me another existential crisis that I have to

41:38

bounce off of it temporarily. But

41:40

it's really cute so far. It's

41:44

funny because I got an achievement for lying to

41:46

a friend. So I think I'm just gonna continue

41:48

doing that. Oh no. Yes,

41:50

Tam. Is lying to a friend Filipino

41:53

thing? 100%, Michael Hyman

41:55

and I have never been truthful with each other. Tam

41:57

Jansol, that's a negative. I

41:59

was just asking. a dumb question. Brown's

42:02

good for the get down but we did think you could

42:04

have passed as a Filipino at one point Mike. Yeah

42:07

if I got in the sun I don't know. The

42:10

thing that got you is that you weren't able to point

42:12

with your lips. See

42:15

now it's just like you're making kissy faces.

42:17

Point with my lips can you stand my

42:19

straight for me? Yeah

42:21

you just point with your lips. Show

42:23

me. See Tam did got it. Tam's good.

42:25

Oh yeah yeah. Okay you're getting

42:27

that mic. No no see Lucy it's

42:29

too much like you have to kind of tilt your head as

42:32

well. Yeah I'm trying to like take a sip of something. Yeah

42:35

yeah exactly like you're taking a quick sip but

42:37

pointing. Oh I was

42:39

close. Yeah yeah yeah you got a solution.

42:41

Okay so it's less like side movement and

42:43

just forward. For

42:46

audio listeners I did it the best for sure.

42:48

Absolutely you did. Yeah I don't know

42:51

what we're doing here. Going from

42:53

also my internet is like kind of dipping in

42:55

and out so I am like three or four

42:57

seconds behind all of you. And I'm

42:59

just trying to be like which

43:02

is peak podcasting this is what it

43:04

looks like. Well I'll set you up Lucy

43:06

for you to talk for an extended period of time that

43:08

we won't interrupt because this game takes place in 2014 much

43:10

like a game that you're

43:13

currently playing and put on the dock here. Dragon

43:15

Age Inquisition. Oh

43:18

nice. Chat that was an unbelievable

43:20

set away. Wow I'm trying to do

43:22

it. It's been 10 years since Dragon

43:24

Age Inquisition. You don't nail in it.

43:26

Yeah I have decided to replay Dragon

43:28

Age Inquisition because Dragon Age the Valeguard

43:31

is coming out this year. I

43:33

am because I like having

43:35

a bunch of stuff on my plate at all

43:37

times. I want to replay it because I want

43:40

to I don't know I want

43:42

to feel the love for that little

43:44

egg man all over again. I want to feel something

43:46

again. I want to feel something

43:48

again and I was playing

43:50

it the other day and I like made

43:52

a character made an elf and I was like I

43:55

made an elf rogue not happy with it. Went

43:57

back made another character made a Qunari. warrior,

44:01

not happy with them. And

44:03

so then yesterday I went back and I made an

44:05

elf mage, which is

44:07

really annoying because that is the exact character

44:09

that I made 10 years ago, and

44:11

I wanted to do something different, but this time I'm not

44:14

gonna date Cullen. If

44:17

you're a part of the fandom, you will absolutely remember

44:20

all that stuff. I'm

44:22

gonna date Solas this time. Well, he

44:24

only dates elves, I think. Yep.

44:27

Dance sword. I

44:29

know, hate to see it. Yeah, he only

44:31

dates elves, and I'm really trying my

44:33

hardest to make him like me. But

44:39

also, because I think that means, the end

44:41

of the game in Trespasser will hit doubly

44:43

hard if my character has Robloxed him. This

44:45

game is $3 on Steam right now. Yes,

44:48

it's a note. So all of Dragon

44:50

Age was on a massive sale. So I also

44:53

picked, because I could have played

44:55

it through Game Pass, although I don't know if it's on

44:57

Game Pass PC, but I

44:59

picked up Dragon Age Origins and Inquisition,

45:02

but apparently you need to use a bunch of

45:04

mods to make Origins run, because it was just

45:06

never really properly optimized for PC. Dragon

45:09

Age Inquisition runs really well, at

45:11

least on my rig, thank you, N6T. And

45:17

no, it's wild

45:19

going back to it, because

45:21

at the beginning it is truly like, you

45:24

don't know what's going on, you've got no abilities,

45:26

and then it's a mad at how quickly you

45:29

kind of start to feel really powerful. I'm in

45:31

the Hinterlands at the moment, but I'm not gonna

45:33

make the mistake that I did last time. The

45:36

Hinterlands. Oh, I'm sorry, I misheard you. What

45:38

did you think I said? We don't need to

45:41

go there. The Hinterlands? The Hinterlands. No, no, no. No,

45:43

I was gonna- It's going to Ohio. I'm

45:45

in the Hinterlands, and so that's this infamous

45:49

area that everyone just spends like 20 hours in

45:51

when you really don't need to. I

45:55

love that you said, I'm in the Hinterlands at the

45:57

moment. At the moment. Yeah, everyone's in the Hinterlands. forever

46:00

in that game. I'm sure there's a hinterlands

46:02

in World of Warcraft. What does hinter mean?

46:05

There's a hinterlands everywhere. There's a hinterlands

46:07

in Elden Ring. That's one of the, what'd

46:09

you call it? Oh man,

46:11

everyone's got a hinterlands apparently. I

46:14

gotta find out what that word means. And

46:16

so I don't know, like the music's kicking

46:18

in. I've got like a

46:21

lot of my squad, but not all of them are

46:23

kind of rocking up. I forgot how much I love

46:25

Cassandra. Oh yeah. Yeah.

46:28

You put Varric in the group. I kind of always had

46:31

to have Varric there. Well, so I haven't

46:33

got everyone just yet. So I think right

46:36

now I'm rocking Varric, Solas and

46:38

Cassandra. I think

46:41

I love Cassandra so much though. So I was like,

46:44

maybe I'll swap out

46:46

Solas for Iron. For

46:51

Ironball or like Vivienne.

46:54

I don't know. I

46:57

don't know. Because I haven't touched it in literally like

46:59

10 years. Yeah. I

47:02

enjoyed that game when it came out. I played through it. Not

47:05

a whole lot of it stuck with me. I'm one of

47:07

those obnoxious people who's like, Origins was the best one. Because

47:09

it was more of an RPG and I'm

47:11

old. But I definitely

47:13

enjoyed Inquisition and I am looking forward to

47:16

Vail Guard for sure. I don't know if

47:18

I quite want to like take the

47:20

time to go back to Inquisition. Maybe

47:23

I'd watch somebody else play it or something

47:25

though. I could use a refresher.

47:27

I remember there was a lot of green

47:29

tears and we closed the green tears and

47:31

Solas was a friend. And then like at

47:33

the end, maybe not a friend. Those are

47:35

the things I remember. That's basically

47:37

the game. There we go. Good.

47:41

Well, we're going to take a quick break and

47:43

polish off the rest of these games that we

47:45

have listed here. But Tam, we got to say

47:47

Sayonara. Yeah, I got to run. I

47:50

got to do another podcast. I'm

47:52

dual wielding podcasts. Hell yeah. Hell

47:54

yeah. I'll see everyone later. Jan,

47:57

did I do good? Jan, did I do good? Before

48:00

in chat, please let me know if he starts

48:02

talking about Disney. The

48:05

restriction stays in effect the entire

48:08

program. Yeah, the embargo is still active. Yeah,

48:10

bye. Can't lift that. All right. Goodbye. We're

48:12

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50:02

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50:04

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50:08

hot dogs and it was mad adorable Tam

50:11

is still here. Yeah, I

50:13

don't know how time works It's

50:15

fine. We don't know either. So

50:17

that's why we also have turbo Sean here. Hi We're

50:21

gonna we're gonna reformat the timeline. Hi

50:24

Sean Mike Is

50:27

asking me about my life and everything yet? I

50:29

was kind of expecting that I came in here

50:31

and maybe We're

50:34

gonna do that on the show, you know, that's that's how I

50:44

Now why are we not back question you said we're

50:46

gonna do something on the show Just

50:53

fantasy I want to delays I'm just like

50:58

We're done talking okay. Yes,

51:00

and then you also like

51:02

robots to me so I'm just like Oh,

51:05

that's a good podcast. It's a good podcast. It's

51:07

it's it's a good podcast. It's about Now

51:11

we're podcasting Sean

51:14

how are you? I'm good. I got

51:16

I got you new Rosalina shirt. I

51:18

really Yeah,

51:21

I got that Rosalina

51:23

used to be my favorite princess until the internet

51:25

told me it was actually Until Daisy

51:27

was thrust upon you and not that way. Yeah

51:30

phrasing But yeah,

51:32

I'm doing good. I got I'm taking care of a

51:34

few things I think I can talk about this

51:36

now and might might as well be on the bomb

51:39

cast unless things go

51:41

horribly horribly awry with schedule because I need

51:43

to I Need to finish

51:45

booking a couple things. I should I should

51:48

be at Evo this year. Oh I

51:52

got proof for my press pass and everything So

51:54

I'm just you know finalizing flights and whatnot to

51:57

make it as cheap as possible. But

51:59

yeah, I should be out there So, you know,

52:01

if you all are going to be there

52:03

in a couple of weeks, make sure to

52:05

say hi. I hope Mike actually mutes his

52:07

mic this time. If he's taking a call,

52:10

this is the one time I will advocate

52:12

for someone trying to fight Sean. If you

52:14

see Sean at Evo, fight

52:17

him. Oh, yeah. My my red ranks.

52:19

Lily will gladly take you on. Are

52:22

you are you paying out pocket together? Yeah.

52:25

OK. You

52:27

know, I don't get certain benefits or full time employees.

52:30

Listen, listen, listen, listen. I was just going to say,

52:32

we'll talk after. Let's see if we can help you

52:34

out. OK. OK. All right. Rumbling,

52:37

rumbling, rumbling. Part of that is

52:39

that Jan made me do something.

52:43

I blame Jan for this entirety.

52:45

I bought something. I

52:47

bought something. God damn it. It's

52:50

not here yet, but I

52:52

ordered an iPhone 15 Pro. Yeah.

52:55

Yeah. I'm one of those guys.

52:57

What did you order? An

52:59

iPhone 15 Pro. What did you?

53:03

Oh, my God. Yeah. It

53:06

was incredible because it looked like

53:08

it was sinking in. Like, I'm

53:10

not going to lie, guys, I'm having a horrible time with

53:12

this delay. Like every time you

53:14

guys say something like even even if one of

53:16

you talks over the other one, I can't hear

53:19

shit. So like I didn't realize that Sean was

53:21

going to Evo until like maybe 30 seconds

53:23

after you said it, where I was like

53:25

something that's happening in a couple of weeks.

53:27

Oh, Evo. Wait, so basically, so

53:29

me sending you that app for the

53:32

new iPhone camera thing. I

53:34

mean, that didn't help. Yeah,

53:36

I was mentioning that this isn't helping things,

53:38

Lucy. That's what I was talking about. Yeah.

53:42

While you're going to Evo, that's crazy. Why are

53:44

you getting an iPhone? That's crazy. Yeah, that's crazy,

53:46

too. Yeah. Sorry. Chat's wondering why

53:48

that's like a big deal because I've been using Android

53:51

phones like since the beginning. And so now I have

53:53

to like switch over and like figure some stuff out.

53:55

But it's going to be worth it because, you know,

53:57

they don't have a really good video. Google does it. Good.

54:02

It's surprisingly easy to switch over. I

54:04

just seems like, yeah, it's just all the Google

54:06

apps are over there now. You can even just

54:08

use keyboard on iPhones now. So it's like everything's

54:10

kind of bad for Lucy. I'm

54:13

sorry for taking a call. That was my

54:15

sky Rizzi getting rescheduled there. So it's important.

54:18

Um, wait, so the app because

54:20

Captain Burgundy asked is that iPhone just released

54:22

a new app called like Final Cut Camera

54:25

or something, and it basically allows you to

54:27

multi stream to an iPad

54:29

and like you can change everything in

54:31

your like, you can change focal

54:33

lens, you can change like

54:36

white balance. It's all it's a really cool

54:38

app that you can put in. Yeah, so

54:40

it's free now. That's yeah, that's

54:42

going to that's not going to do much for

54:44

me since I'm going out there solo. But in

54:47

the future, when me and Jan are inevitably together,

54:49

we're going to get kept to some shenanigans with

54:51

that. I feel we're going to. Oh, my God.

54:53

I can't wait to live switch. I want to

54:55

just live switch my life if I could. Is

54:58

there a limit to how many phones you can have? I

55:00

think it's like four or five or that's

55:03

that's going to be fun. Oh,

55:05

multi streaming. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just

55:08

connected. I think you might just like owning

55:10

phones because I was like, I feel like that. Oh,

55:13

you know, I know that there's no limit to

55:15

that. Well, you go limit. I had four phones

55:17

at one point. Yeah. Um, maybe

55:21

we take another quick, bricky break and

55:23

to try and fix some some

55:26

internet issues. Yeah, yeah.

55:28

Just for some

55:30

stuff. We'll be right back right

55:33

after this. And

55:35

we are back. Take that

55:37

technical malfunctions. Nothing is going to stop

55:40

this train of the podcast. The bomb

55:42

cast were going. Sean's going to Evo.

55:44

Sean has a new phone going to

55:46

have a new phone. We're going to

55:48

shoot so much in log.

55:51

Tam, what color is the phone? Man,

55:55

I wanted to get the white one because then

55:57

you could do more with fun colors. But unfortunately,

55:59

my carrier. Doesn't carry that for whatever reason so

56:01

I was like yeah, just a black one whatever

56:05

I'm slapping case on it anyway, so it's

56:07

like I'll just get a more interesting case

56:09

right I just took my case off like

56:11

what color is my phone? I guess so

56:13

many people yeah like whenever I listen to

56:15

tech podcasts They're like obviously you know they're

56:17

reviewing a bunch of stuff, but they're

56:19

like yeah, what color is under this case I don't even know

56:21

it's where they sent me I

56:24

got a bunch of stupid filters. I can maybe send your

56:26

way Sean. It's gonna be great Oh

56:31

Last game that I wanted

56:33

to hear about before we get to the

56:35

news This was stirring up

56:37

its own news actually like

56:39

Mike Minotti You've been playing

56:41

Final Fantasy 14 Dawn trail right

56:43

the latest Final Fantasy 14 expansion I

56:46

haven't been able to like go super

56:48

crazy in it like my progression

56:51

in the main story Questline is

56:53

this still relatively slow. I'm only

56:55

in kind of the first Big

56:58

zone there. I've been enjoying it. I just kind

57:00

of like you know going to a new place

57:02

and seeing things There's been some discourse. You know

57:04

I think oh Yeah, there's

57:06

been a little bit of discourse No

57:09

thought that It's it's more

57:12

It's basically what Final Fantasy 14 has

57:14

always been for a while where the

57:16

main story quest is literally Kind of

57:18

just story right like you don't fight

57:21

anything in the game probably the first like

57:23

four or five hours Till

57:25

you like get to a dungeon basically. It's not like we're

57:28

at a Warcraft where every quest is Hey,

57:31

go kill so-and-so there are so many of these

57:33

things right If I'll face 14 for a like

57:35

a long time ago is like that's kind of

57:37

just filler and not engaging We're just not gonna

57:39

do it and they're right But

57:42

maybe they need to throw in some

57:44

other encounters to pick up the pace

57:47

a little bit Cuz you know for some people it's like

57:49

yeah I feel like uh we I just went to a

57:51

place and I'm getting kind of assaulted with proper nouns and

57:54

that's true again It

57:56

kind of always has been true, but

57:59

maybe this is just It's the point where it's bothering some people.

58:02

I think for some people, so the whole point of

58:04

this expansion is that this is kind of the

58:07

vacation arc or sort

58:09

of a bit of a coming down

58:11

from the big storyline we had that

58:13

got resolved in the last expansion, right?

58:15

So we saved the universe in the

58:17

last expansion and the other

58:19

expansion is also saving at least the world, even

58:22

in the patches after the last expansion we saved

58:24

the world and everybody's always like, oh, I want

58:26

maybe to just feel like a normal adventurer again.

58:28

And then when I feel like when you actually

58:31

do give people that a lot of times they

58:33

kind of have a baccalaure reaction like, well now

58:35

this doesn't feel important, really. Not

58:38

the stakes aren't as high. Right,

58:40

so again, I'm not super far

58:42

into it so I'm not having that problem.

58:44

The other thing is that there's

58:47

kind of a new character who

58:49

is maybe more the focal

58:52

point than even you are and it

58:54

kind of is like, oh, you're this

58:56

character's bodyguard and you're helping them in

58:58

their story, which it's interesting they would

59:00

do that again because that's what they basically

59:02

did in the Stormblood expansion which is most

59:04

people's least favorite expansion, at least storyline wise.

59:07

So it's kind of a little strange to

59:09

see them just kind of copy that model

59:11

and maybe it didn't really work for them.

59:13

That's also, to be fair though, that's also

59:16

kind of how 14 started though in A

59:18

Realm Reborn. That's kind of how you started

59:20

off. Right, I think, but

59:22

like Shadowbringers especially and Heaven's Word a

59:25

bit too, we're pretty good at like

59:27

making you feel like the main character,

59:30

which is something that like World of Warcraft has

59:32

never been good at, it's something that I think

59:34

made Final Fantasy XIV stand out. Again, I'm not

59:36

that foreign to it. I think a lot of

59:38

it depends on how much you like this new

59:40

character. So far, I like her

59:42

fine but I want to get to know

59:45

her better but just the vibes

59:47

of the expansion are really working for me

59:49

because it is that kind of tropical thing.

59:51

People jokingly called it the Margaritaville expansion. Oh

59:53

hell yeah. And I'm into that. You've

59:55

got my attention now. Yeah, it's a lot of kind

59:58

of... tropical,

1:00:02

you know, lots of waterfalls

1:00:04

and sunshine and beaches kind

1:00:06

of thing. So that's

1:00:08

been really pleasant. And

1:00:11

I unlocked one of the new jobs

1:00:13

called Pictomancer, which is really fun. It's

1:00:15

like a mage that is drawing stuff.

1:00:17

So it's like a paintbrush mage kind

1:00:19

of thing. Oh, like a struggle, not

1:00:21

I was going to make a pictionary joke.

1:00:24

And it's like it's actually the picture.

1:00:26

But no, it's actually like a summoner,

1:00:29

but with paintings kind of right. She's

1:00:31

a chalk zoner. So you

1:00:33

can like paint. Yes, Jan. Yeah. Oh

1:00:35

my God. That's that's that's before my time.

1:00:38

She was a joke. We need to go

1:00:40

to your time. It

1:00:42

was after my time. I was going

1:00:44

to say, like, whatever time is linear

1:00:46

and confusing for my time. Yeah,

1:00:48

something like that. No. But that's fine

1:00:51

because you like you like can like draw a moogle

1:00:53

and then you use the moogle to like summon to

1:00:55

do an attack kind of a thing. Right. And there's

1:00:57

or like you draw a hammer and now you have

1:00:59

a hammer combo and it's like a big whack on

1:01:02

a hammer. So it's a very like

1:01:05

it's like a very beautiful job. Like the effects

1:01:07

of it are just really cool and colorful and

1:01:09

fun. But it also has a pretty nice flow

1:01:11

to it that I'm in. I am enjoying. So

1:01:13

it actually probably spent most of

1:01:15

my time just kind of leveling up this job

1:01:17

for fun. I've been enjoying it more than I

1:01:19

was expecting. So yeah. I

1:01:22

did the thing again that happens every single

1:01:24

steam sale where I'll look at

1:01:26

the recommended stuff in the queue thing that steam

1:01:29

builds for you and I'll see

1:01:31

like, oh, Final Fantasy 14, maybe I should

1:01:33

buy that. Then I realize I've already bought

1:01:35

it three or four times.

1:01:37

Yeah, me too. It

1:01:40

also has a free trial that would last you like 200

1:01:42

hours of gameplay, which is more than most people will get

1:01:44

through. Yeah, it's crazy that, you

1:01:46

know, some people don't like me saying this,

1:01:48

but Final Fantasy 14 is actually just like

1:01:50

straight up free to play up to

1:01:53

a certain point. Yeah, right. And I

1:01:55

was about that. It was.

1:01:57

Yeah, yeah, because yeah, like you. You

1:02:00

know, Final Fantasy 14 is free to play

1:02:02

up to the critically acclaimed expansion. Evans Ward

1:02:04

something like that. Yeah. And now

1:02:06

they expanded to Stormblower. Yeah. That's cool. They're

1:02:09

just like giving you three, well,

1:02:11

two really good and one kind of just

1:02:14

all right. Final Fantasy games for free. Like.

1:02:17

Yeah. Yeah. Like

1:02:19

Starbud's not bad, but its storyline is probably the weakest

1:02:21

that we've had except you know. I was going to

1:02:23

say A Realm Reborn is very. Oh yeah. You're

1:02:26

right. It is kind of hard because. But. Yeah,

1:02:29

Evans Ward's amazing. And then Shadowbringers the

1:02:31

third expansion is also like the

1:02:34

top tier one. And Walker was very good. And

1:02:37

Walker's kind of Shadowbringers part two. I think that's the

1:02:39

other part of it is that Shadowbringers very

1:02:42

serious heavy stakes and Walker's same thing. So

1:02:44

I think it's a little bit of a

1:02:46

shock that the stakes are so much lower

1:02:48

and things are a bit chill. Again, I like

1:02:51

that. But again, some people can be like, ah, this

1:02:53

doesn't seem important. This will be. Yeah.

1:02:56

Because well, when Jan asked if I want to fill

1:02:59

in for a second half of the show, I was

1:03:01

like, you know, that's perfect because I haven't been playing

1:03:03

a lot of games because I've just been getting caught

1:03:05

up in 14 leading into Dawn Trail. I'm

1:03:08

very behind. I am in Endwalker

1:03:10

right now. So for me,

1:03:12

it's going to be really interesting if I do

1:03:14

stick with it because you know, it might be

1:03:16

a lot to play to basically Final Fantasy games

1:03:19

back to back. But going from

1:03:21

Endwalker into Dawn Trail immediately. I'm

1:03:23

going to see more than most

1:03:25

people what the contrast is

1:03:27

there between the two expansions.

1:03:29

But for me, honestly, I'm

1:03:32

not the biggest fan of as

1:03:35

much as I like power fantasies in games. It's

1:03:38

why I play character action games a lot. I'm

1:03:40

never a fan of when like RPG not that

1:03:42

way. I'm never a huge

1:03:44

fan of when like RPGs

1:03:46

do escalate to you are some

1:03:48

random guy who just turns into

1:03:51

the destroyer of worlds

1:03:53

and the entire universe centers

1:03:55

around you because chance

1:03:58

is always seemed a bit weird to me. And

1:04:00

the chosen one kind of thing

1:04:02

is exactly you are the chosen

1:04:04

one. Yeah, you are the like

1:04:06

all capital letters warrior of lights

1:04:09

and I don't know maybe taking our character

1:04:11

back a little bit and Grounding

1:04:13

them a little bit more. I don't know obviously I don't

1:04:15

know what happens at the end of endwalker I would be

1:04:17

interested to see if maybe there's a reason that they bring

1:04:20

you back down to earth a little more but I

1:04:23

assume not But it would be

1:04:25

interesting to at least like thrust that upon

1:04:27

the character again to be like like Kind

1:04:30

of are just a person now I think

1:04:32

your character being a bit of a silent protagonist has

1:04:35

always lent itself to that because then your character can

1:04:37

be whatever the Story needs you to be you're very

1:04:39

they they lean into it a lot

1:04:41

in 14 We're like, oh that like they're so humble

1:04:44

all the time They don't like talk about their deeds

1:04:46

much and spying cuz you know, you don't talk so

1:04:48

right exactly Yeah strong with silence. I

1:04:50

it is always hard like cuz you are you said that

1:04:52

destroyer of worlds and then now we're you

1:04:54

know Doing this other storyline with smaller stakes It's kind

1:04:56

of like I should just be able to glare

1:04:59

at somebody and they should do whatever Yeah,

1:05:02

it's weird way It's like I'm playing Even

1:05:04

something like persona where the powers are sort of

1:05:07

like partitioned off from the real world even that

1:05:09

it's like I just killed God The other

1:05:11

day and I gotta go back to high school. This

1:05:13

is just weird, man Yeah, no

1:05:15

exactly. Uh I Have

1:05:19

the weirdest case of FOMO anytime I

1:05:21

hear folk talking about for Final Fantasy

1:05:23

14 You almost said for night. You

1:05:26

almost said for night. I never get final

1:05:28

fortnight 14 fire Anyway

1:05:31

FOMO and then you know, you see

1:05:33

the nasty boys chatting about it constantly

1:05:37

Maybe that's why they're so nasty Made

1:05:40

I'm so nasty. Yeah, I

1:05:42

was like, oh maybe maybe today's the

1:05:44

day Maybe how can I block

1:05:46

out enough time that I just do it

1:05:49

for work instead? Doing

1:05:54

this the last time grub was out we

1:05:56

were like what is she who starts Final

1:05:59

Fantasy 14 final That's GMM for

1:06:01

the week. Final Jan

1:06:03

Tam Lucy, a friendship reborn. That

1:06:05

was it. That was it. Wow.

1:06:08

Even had the name. Yeah, and that's when

1:06:11

the series becomes so popular that that's when

1:06:13

we have a beef over money. Yeah,

1:06:16

it is. There we go. That's

1:06:18

what breaks up the band. That's what ruins the world tour.

1:06:21

Love it. Speaking about

1:06:23

world tour, no, we're not

1:06:25

going on a world tour. News. This

1:06:29

is going to ruin the tour. What tour?

1:06:32

The world tour. Yay. Man,

1:06:36

the grub is so wrong. That's such a better meme than

1:06:38

Hawk 2. I agree. It's so

1:06:40

much better. It's so much better. So much better.

1:06:43

You know, I saw a really

1:06:45

good version of the meme today where it was

1:06:47

basically like, police say that

1:06:50

they were tipped off to Justin Timberlake

1:06:52

being intoxicated. And there was a picture

1:06:54

of Janet Jackson hiding behind a bush on

1:06:56

a phone. And I was like, wow.

1:06:59

She deserves an apology from him. As

1:07:01

does Britney. As does his

1:07:03

wife, who he publicly cheated on, and she's stuck

1:07:05

by him. Shouts

1:07:08

out to Jessica Beale. Shouts out to Jessica Beale. She

1:07:10

probably deserves better. I don't know. She could be. Oh

1:07:12

my God. You know what? Also, he should apologize to

1:07:14

Anna Kendrick. His bad PR tanked

1:07:17

the last trolls movie. Yep.

1:07:20

Oh, the trolls movie didn't do well? Yeah.

1:07:22

Trolls and minions. It's like the

1:07:25

guaranteed Hollywood formula now. Fury also

1:07:27

would have performed better in the

1:07:29

box office if Anya

1:07:31

Taylor-Joy was surrounded by minions. Are you

1:07:33

all also devastated that Despicable Me 4

1:07:36

is getting lukewarm reviews? I

1:07:38

didn't even know it was out. I don't

1:07:40

even know that was a Despicable Me 4. Oh,

1:07:42

there's a fourth one. Oh yeah, I

1:07:44

saw a commercial for it the other day because I was

1:07:46

watching TV for the first time a long time. Like, what

1:07:48

the hell is this? There's a fourth one? The

1:07:50

thing is is that I had

1:07:52

to go on like Xfinity's website the other

1:07:55

day and they had a bunch of minions on it.

1:07:57

And I was like, that's just... Grub,

1:08:00

log off, you're on holiday. But

1:08:03

yeah, it's just basically like, there's minions all the time and

1:08:05

I just figured like they had some kind of long-term

1:08:07

partnership with the minions, minions,

1:08:10

Inc., I don't know. The

1:08:12

minions, Inc. We're gonna figure out that

1:08:14

we all tried a lot. I need to apologize to the despicable me

1:08:16

for it as a 63% raw tomatoes,

1:08:19

which actually means it's fresh. So

1:08:21

that's shocking. 63 is

1:08:23

fresh nowadays. We need to understand. Yeah, 63

1:08:25

was always fresh. Yeah, I think

1:08:28

anything above 60, yeah, yeah. You

1:08:30

should at least be 70. 70's good. Six

1:08:32

is fine. I apologize to Gru and

1:08:34

his family. Thank you for apologizing. Speaking

1:08:36

about fresh, we got some fresh news

1:08:38

about the Nintendo Switch 2, or

1:08:40

supposedly what it's gonna be. I

1:08:43

forgot that I had to do news because Grub was

1:08:45

gone and then I panicked and was like, there's no

1:08:47

news, I'm just gonna say there's no news and we're

1:08:49

gonna skip it. But we need to take ad breaks.

1:08:52

But basically, Nintendo

1:08:54

president, Shontaro Furukawa has said,

1:08:57

I fucking hate scalpers. So

1:08:59

to solve the problem for the Nintendo Switch 2. Everyone

1:09:02

will call it a gun to kill

1:09:04

the scalpers. So

1:09:07

the scalpers don't prevail. We're just

1:09:09

gonna make hella Switch 2's. That's

1:09:12

what we're gonna do. We're just gonna make a

1:09:14

bunch. The semiconductor problem that

1:09:16

plagued us during the original Switch, gone.

1:09:19

Forget about it. We're just gonna make

1:09:21

this, make a bunch, so the scalpers can't get to

1:09:23

it. So if you want a Switch 2, you get

1:09:25

a Switch 2. That's what's gonna

1:09:27

happen. The

1:09:30

part of the supply constraint that plagued

1:09:32

the original Switch was all semiconductors. Furukawa

1:09:34

has said that is no longer an

1:09:37

issue. They're good to go when production

1:09:39

ramps up. When will we see this?

1:09:42

When are we at least gonna get a whisper of this? It

1:09:45

is the weird thing right now, right? Like we

1:09:47

had that direct, which I think a lot

1:09:49

of us think is gonna be the last big direct for

1:09:51

the Switch 1. So

1:09:54

at some point by the end of the year,

1:09:56

I think fall, maybe later in fall, we

1:09:59

do finally skid. It's something concrete

1:10:02

about the Switch 2, like what

1:10:04

it's actually called at least, and hopefully a

1:10:06

release window, and maybe a look at the

1:10:08

Mario game, we all assume is

1:10:10

going to launch to it. Speaking of that Mario game,

1:10:13

at least back when we found out

1:10:15

that the Switch 2 wasn't gonna come out this year,

1:10:17

at least some people were saying it's not

1:10:19

necessarily because of the Switch 2, it's because

1:10:21

of that Mario game, like that needs more

1:10:23

time. And if that's the case, then they

1:10:26

have plenty of time to make as many

1:10:28

Switch 2s as they want, so they can

1:10:30

really shore up supply there, so that hopefully

1:10:33

won't be a problem. Now, it might be

1:10:35

a problem anyways, especially immediately, there's gonna be

1:10:37

so many people who will want a Switch

1:10:39

2 immediately, they

1:10:42

could do their best to shore up as much

1:10:44

as they want, there's gonna be some scalping and

1:10:46

stuff. Don't rest on your laurels everybody, and think,

1:10:48

well, they're saying this, I'm just gonna walk into

1:10:50

a Walmart on the day it comes out and

1:10:52

get one, I'd still be doing your

1:10:54

best to pre-order and all that stuff if you

1:10:56

really wanna Switch 2. Yeah, and

1:10:59

I think Nintendo is in a

1:11:01

much smarter place right now, and so if

1:11:03

they're looking at the next system and they

1:11:05

say to themselves, this is the Switch 2,

1:11:08

they're not calling it that, they know that that

1:11:10

is going to sell at least in the long

1:11:12

run, so they can just overproduce if

1:11:14

necessary, and then it'll sell eventually, as

1:11:16

to when it comes out or when

1:11:18

we hear about it, well, those two

1:11:21

things are linked obviously, but I think

1:11:23

we were talking about this a lot

1:11:25

in our post-direct thoughts from the other

1:11:27

week, just

1:11:29

strategy-wise, it makes the most sense to either

1:11:31

be in that March timeframe of the Switch

1:11:33

1, which worked out very well

1:11:35

for them last time, because then if any

1:11:37

issues do arise, and they're obviously trying to

1:11:39

sort through those ahead of time this time around, but

1:11:42

if any issues do arise, those can all be

1:11:44

sorted by the holiday season, where you're looking to

1:11:46

push the most systems possible, which is, I think,

1:11:48

a good strategy, or obviously it would be later

1:11:50

in the year, just before the

1:11:53

holiday season. Maybe they're really confident, maybe

1:11:55

they do just launch in October, November,

1:11:57

and then just ride the

1:11:59

high train. through the holidays, but I don't

1:12:01

know, it's Nintendo and it's the successor to

1:12:03

the switch. Assuming that's not a Wii U

1:12:05

fumble, which, you know, again, they're smarter this

1:12:07

time. I don't think you can do anything

1:12:09

like that. No, I think it's just going

1:12:12

to be a better switch this time around.

1:12:15

They put out whenever. So I do think March

1:12:17

timeframe would sound right, which would mean we

1:12:19

start hearing about it at the end of

1:12:21

this year at the switch. One was an

1:12:24

indication because for the reminder, because some people

1:12:26

were like, Oh, they didn't talk about

1:12:28

E3 season this year. So therefore

1:12:30

it's like so far out. They

1:12:32

only officially revealed the switch like five ish

1:12:34

months before it came out. They did that.

1:12:36

You know, the first reveal trailer with the

1:12:38

name and everything, the person at the airport

1:12:40

playing all that fun stuff. And then, you

1:12:43

know, a couple months later, they have like

1:12:45

the sort of the release party thing where

1:12:47

they showed off a bunch of games like

1:12:49

SMT five showed up there. They had the

1:12:51

HD rumble that and that was like a

1:12:53

month or two before a system. So whenever

1:12:55

this is coming out, you're here about rooftop

1:12:57

parties have not been the same. I need

1:13:00

a switch. It's right. They're going to great

1:13:02

that. Um, last question about

1:13:04

the switch to for this lovely panel here.

1:13:07

Kickstand no kickstand. Well,

1:13:10

I think as a kickstand. Yeah,

1:13:13

I think they will have one. I think

1:13:15

that the one that they put on the

1:13:17

is it the OLED, the really long kickstand.

1:13:21

The one that's like a Microsoft Surface

1:13:23

kickstand. It's back. Law proof. Yeah.

1:13:28

Uh, all right. Next story that

1:13:30

I have here is George Rick

1:13:32

Roll Martin appears to have teased

1:13:34

the Elden Ring movie or TV

1:13:36

adaptation. Uh, this

1:13:39

man loves stirring the pot with his hot

1:13:41

goss and his blog. He writes about how

1:13:43

he helped with the world building of Elden

1:13:45

Ring in while Miyazaki and company did the

1:13:47

rest of the work. He addresses Miyazaki mentioning

1:13:50

that there is interest in an Elden Ring

1:13:52

adaptation by, uh, from directly from his blog

1:13:54

writing. Oh, and about those rumors, what is,

1:13:56

what does he sound like? What

1:13:59

is George? He

1:14:02

sounds, he's got like a slightly

1:14:04

raspy voice and he talks very

1:14:06

fast. Is he American? Yes. Yes.

1:14:09

Oh, and about those rumors you may have heard

1:14:11

about a feature film or television series based on

1:14:13

Melbourne. It's not far off. It's not far off.

1:14:15

He sounds younger than that. Like,

1:14:18

yeah. High pitch. I,

1:14:20

not a word. Nope. Not a thing. I

1:14:23

know nothing. You never heard a peep from me. Mum

1:14:25

mum mum. What rumor? Speaking to

1:14:27

the Guardian, Miyazaki then had also said, I don't

1:14:29

see any reason to deny another

1:14:32

interpretation or adaptation. Actually speaking to

1:14:34

gamespot.com he said that. Speaking

1:14:37

to gamespot.com. Thank you. I don't

1:14:39

know why this, this, this, this, I'm going to

1:14:41

have to revisit this website. Everyone did it. Everyone

1:14:44

saw The Guardian and I was like, man, I published

1:14:46

that a week ago. What

1:14:48

the fuck? In Elden Ring adaptation or a movie

1:14:50

example, but I don't think myself or Firm Software

1:14:52

have the knowledge or ability to produce something in

1:14:54

a different medium. So that's where a very strong

1:14:56

partner would come into play. We'd have to build

1:14:58

a lot of trust and agreement on whatever it

1:15:01

is they're trying to achieve. But there's interest

1:15:03

for sure. This is where I

1:15:05

want to pitch that Illumination handles the

1:15:07

Elden Ring movie. I was going

1:15:10

to say that partner, Chris Pratt. That's

1:15:13

what Kind of Funny did with the, I didn't notice it until

1:15:15

I went back. But I was on

1:15:17

Games Daily yesterday and they used

1:15:20

a tarnished Chris Pratt and it

1:15:22

was upsetting. Oh God. Could

1:15:26

be. Could be. What

1:15:28

movie or TV show could they do with

1:15:30

Elden Ring? Would it just be like an

1:15:32

existing lore prior to the game? It would

1:15:34

almost have to, because you can't really, a

1:15:36

story about the tarnished isn't all that interesting.

1:15:38

It almost had to be about the

1:15:41

kind of pantheon of the demi gods

1:15:43

and their bullshit, Ronnie killing,

1:15:47

Radegan or whatever.

1:15:49

Yeah, I don't know. That seems challenging,

1:15:51

right? It's like what people really like

1:15:54

with Elden Ring is just the lore

1:15:56

dumps, right? That's what they like to

1:15:58

watch. But actual like drama. Is

1:16:00

not really something we see a lot of in

1:16:03

outer ring. I don't know what excuse you looks

1:16:05

like We don't like like character like these characters

1:16:07

actually talking to each other and doing things right

1:16:09

not just fighting us And you know getting the

1:16:12

kind of lore nuggets, which I like I think

1:16:14

it's very good It's a very good world and

1:16:17

it can be done. It would be a

1:16:19

challenge I'm so I

1:16:21

still like I'm always a little shocked like Oh George R.

1:16:23

R. Martin was involved in the outer ring you know Get

1:16:26

that when you play the game you never at least

1:16:28

me I'm never playing outer ring and I'm like that's

1:16:31

so George R. R. Right now this Super

1:16:35

big incest in Elden ring as far as I remember

1:16:44

There's not a lot of incest there's

1:16:46

a decent amount of shagging yourself to

1:16:48

have kids There's a

1:16:50

lot of what am I missing in

1:16:52

this game? What the hell is going on over

1:16:55

there? Get yourself some popcorn get a nice

1:16:57

glass of Milk

1:17:01

and just watch watch Avari watch

1:17:03

Avari Yeah, yeah,

1:17:06

I'm catering the beverage

1:17:08

to Sean Did

1:17:11

George R. R. Martin like create Like

1:17:14

he created No, no, he

1:17:17

created like the backstory the law

1:17:19

and he created like

1:17:21

the idea of you know Elder

1:17:24

I guess no kind of

1:17:26

I guess probably create the fact that all the main

1:17:28

characters Have initials G

1:17:31

and R Yeah, I

1:17:34

feel like if they wanted to do an adaptation then

1:17:36

it makes sense that they were trying to do the

1:17:38

the Demi gods beefing

1:17:41

but if they what they could very easily do

1:17:44

like the the shadow of

1:17:46

the earth tree era story where we

1:17:48

actually get to see America's rise to

1:17:51

Godhood and because that is a rough

1:17:56

Circumstance of events that get

1:17:58

there. So It

1:18:00

could be that and that

1:18:03

would probably pave the way nicely into

1:18:05

future seasons where they actually do an

1:18:08

Adaptation of what she does post establishment

1:18:10

of the earth tree and the golden order So

1:18:14

I think there's a lot to do there. Do I

1:18:16

think it's gonna happen? Absolutely not no no Let's

1:18:19

just move my mind. I'm sorry. I didn't

1:18:21

realize that the GRM thing that's Sending

1:18:24

me right now. Yeah get ready me

1:18:28

No, like all the main characters

1:18:30

like Godric Godfrey Godfrey

1:18:33

Renala whoever Ronnie and then

1:18:36

Moog more grab again like

1:18:38

yeah, it's where God it's just

1:18:40

all those three letters. Holy shit Yeah,

1:18:42

if they're an M letter that means

1:18:44

that a product of self-test. Oh Oh

1:18:49

Oh Shawn

1:18:53

it's okay Shawn. It's okay. It's fine. It's a

1:18:55

great game great game. Yeah Well,

1:18:59

that's that that all sounds crazy and you know,

1:19:01

what else is crazy crazy taxis coming back. Oh,

1:19:04

yeah Do

1:19:08

you think the offspring is coming back Did

1:19:17

bring them back in like

1:19:19

the it was something like after the

1:19:21

mobile port or something They like re-upped

1:19:23

the license for that. So I

1:19:25

think they know Is getting

1:19:27

paid, you know, like the offspring has

1:19:29

a new album coming out in October. Oh Let's

1:19:33

go see the offspring Go

1:19:37

see an offspring tour and I left

1:19:40

before offspring actually started What hell Jan

1:19:42

I just really just wanted to see

1:19:44

simple plan Well,

1:19:47

they're not a crazy taxi you

1:19:49

guys know about Dexter Holland, right? Like

1:19:51

he's a virologist like he has a

1:19:53

was it like a He has

1:19:56

a BSC biology and a masters in

1:19:58

molecular biology. He can also So,

1:20:02

he can also fly a

1:20:04

plane. Like, he's on a battle.

1:20:07

Halfway through that, I remember what you were

1:20:09

talking about, yeah. Anyway,

1:20:12

in a recruitment video, producer Kenji Kano,

1:20:14

director of the original game, shared details

1:20:16

for the upcoming Crazy Taxi reboot that

1:20:18

is being handled by support studios. Supposedly,

1:20:22

this takes place in a fictional

1:20:24

West Coast theme park-like city. Interesting.

1:20:28

Wow, no comments

1:20:30

about those. Nah. No?

1:20:33

No, no one's ever been to one. No

1:20:36

one's ever been to one. No one has a

1:20:38

frame of reference. You know, West Coast, lower East

1:20:40

Coast, who could say? Not to Berry Farm, must

1:20:42

be Not to Berry Farm. You're always talking about

1:20:44

Not to Berry Farm. Can't stop talking about that

1:20:46

fried chicken. The best West Coast theme park, Universal

1:20:48

Studios. Naturally. The

1:20:52

parking lot with a bunch of roller coasters

1:20:55

in Santa Clara, that's right. There you go.

1:20:57

Great America. You guys see that?

1:20:59

Nevermind. I was gonna do

1:21:01

another theme park thing. According to the

1:21:03

video, the team is testing, adapting the

1:21:05

Crazy Taxi gameplay into a game with

1:21:08

multiple players. The job

1:21:10

listing describes the new game as a

1:21:12

new major online title

1:21:15

with an open world and massively

1:21:18

multiplayer driving game elements. I

1:21:20

don't know if I want that. Here's

1:21:23

the thing, Jan. You don't want it until I tell

1:21:25

you the game is split

1:21:28

up into factions, okay? You

1:21:30

have taxi drivers, you

1:21:33

have Uber drivers, you have

1:21:35

Lyft drivers, and then you

1:21:37

have auto car drivers. Hell yeah.

1:21:39

And that's how you compete. And

1:21:42

also there are trials and collectible

1:21:44

cards. It's turn-based. Lucy,

1:21:47

stop pandering. As

1:21:49

a big old school Sega guy and a

1:21:52

big fan of original Crazy Taxi, I just

1:21:54

played Crazy Taxi 3 on the original

1:21:56

Xbox not too long ago, which is basically just Crazy

1:21:58

Taxi 1. That's a couple. new maps

1:22:00

and other things. I

1:22:02

actually welcome doing this.

1:22:04

I think, look, there's no way they're

1:22:07

gonna just release like an arcade style game like

1:22:09

that these days without very many other bells and

1:22:11

whistles. And I have those games, those

1:22:13

games are out there, you can play those games a

1:22:15

bunch of different ways now. Yeah, let's

1:22:17

do something with it. This is a game

1:22:19

that I think could lend itself pretty easily

1:22:21

into a multiplayer thing, whether it's open world,

1:22:23

I imagine there will be some kind of

1:22:26

almost battle royale aspect of it

1:22:28

where people get dropped off if they're not

1:22:30

collecting like a certain threshold of fair money

1:22:32

or something like that. And you know, they could,

1:22:35

it could be very easy for them to

1:22:37

some point, if not at launch, just add

1:22:39

the normal crazy taxi mode into that big

1:22:41

map. I'd be shocked if something like that

1:22:44

doesn't exist in some way, even if

1:22:46

it is kind of still part of that online

1:22:48

world. I'm not sure, but no, like, you

1:22:50

know, it doesn't immediately throw me off just because

1:22:53

of course they're trying to make something

1:22:55

pretty modern with it. Yeah,

1:22:57

like people are, I think, having an

1:22:59

immediate knee jerk reaction because this traditionally

1:23:01

single player thing that they are turning

1:23:04

into a multiplayer thing. But what they're describing

1:23:06

here to bring up another

1:23:08

game that's sort of in the news recently, Forza

1:23:11

Horizon 4, because unfortunately it's

1:23:13

getting delisted. That game is

1:23:16

incredible. It's one of my, honestly, one of

1:23:18

my favorite games of the past 10 years.

1:23:20

I've put so many hours into it because

1:23:22

that's what it is. It is a like

1:23:25

multiplayer driving game, not necessarily

1:23:27

always racing and they get silly as

1:23:29

hell in there. Like it's sports cars.

1:23:31

So it's a lot of times it

1:23:33

doesn't go too overboard. But once you

1:23:35

start getting into buggies and stuff driving

1:23:37

around like the UK countryside and everything

1:23:39

like that, they get you some wild

1:23:41

challenges and everything. It's so

1:23:43

much fun. And doing that in

1:23:45

a more arcadey setting sounds fantastic

1:23:47

for Crazy Taxi to me. Actually

1:23:51

a couple of bomb cast appearances from

1:23:53

me ago, me and Dan were talking about this

1:23:55

when it was sort of in the news again,

1:23:57

where Crazy Taxi

1:23:59

is is the series that is

1:24:01

the most, they've

1:24:04

set it up so much to be that

1:24:06

sellout game, like Fortnite. If ever you were

1:24:08

going to have something from back in the

1:24:10

day dragged into the modern

1:24:12

era, Fortnite style, it is Crazy Taxi,

1:24:15

because if you have like Peter Griffin

1:24:17

driving around in a DeLorean to Pizza

1:24:19

Hut in KFC, that makes

1:24:21

sense in Crazy Taxi. Right, like let's not

1:24:23

act like I love Crazy Taxi, and let's

1:24:26

not act like it's some sacred thing. It

1:24:29

is because it's so stupid. Exactly,

1:24:32

like yeah, that's what I mean.

1:24:34

Oh, we can't tarnish like legacy of

1:24:36

Crazy Taxi by putting in a brand.

1:24:38

It had brands immediately, we loved it.

1:24:40

We love that we could go to

1:24:42

Pizza Hut. Back in the day

1:24:44

when I would like take my 50 cents out

1:24:46

of my allowance that weekend, and instead of buying

1:24:49

a candy bar, I would stop by the local

1:24:51

movie theater that had a Crazy Taxi machine. I

1:24:53

got good enough that I would just pop my

1:24:55

50 cents in, sit there for like 20 minutes

1:24:58

or something, and just sit there trying people

1:25:00

to tower records and stuff. Yeah, it's a

1:25:02

sellout game, and it's gonna get goofy

1:25:05

and wild, and I wanna see that.

1:25:07

All right, I like everything that we've

1:25:09

talked about. I especially like Tam's idea

1:25:11

of factions. I think we

1:25:13

should go a step further with the factions.

1:25:16

Each faction is represented by a different genre

1:25:18

of music. Oh, okay.

1:25:20

The Scar faction versus the

1:25:22

emo, actually no, they would probably team up. K-pop.

1:25:26

Pop, girlies, K-pop,

1:25:29

Swifties of the Rounding. The

1:25:31

old men are the

1:25:33

butt rockers, that's all like Dragula stuff.

1:25:37

Let's throw in some Yacht Rock too, let's

1:25:39

do that. Oh. Yeah.

1:25:43

You don't wanna run into the Bossa Nova boys after

1:25:45

5 p.m. though. The Bossa Nova boys,

1:25:47

oh my god. I want

1:25:49

a faction that is just like the

1:25:51

songs from Sega Saturn and Dreamcast Games. The

1:25:54

Sega soundtrack. Can we just get the one

1:25:56

guy who goes Daytona. He's

1:25:58

his own faction. Yeah,

1:26:01

that in here, this presumably

1:26:03

free to play game for like two dollars. Give

1:26:05

me the Sega sound pack. Yeah, I'll buy it.

1:26:07

Like that's how you make your money. Yeah. Oh,

1:26:09

they should just make the horn at one of

1:26:11

the cars in that Sega rally car. Exactly. But

1:26:14

if in Sega, can we get like the

1:26:16

persona soundtracks? Oh, why not?

1:26:18

Oh, you get Kazuma Kiryu driving

1:26:20

a taxi

1:26:22

playing like back in the tie. Yeah,

1:26:25

but they do that kind of stuff

1:26:27

in like the rhythm games that they

1:26:29

produce like one feels like such a

1:26:31

monkey. Bob, right? Like, right.

1:26:33

They have to be able to nail it.

1:26:35

They have to write. I'm going

1:26:38

to be optimistic about it. I am excited

1:26:40

for this and I hope it works out.

1:26:42

You know what else I'm optimistic in now

1:26:44

after reading Jake Decker's wonderful preview. Oh, boy.

1:26:47

I'm kind of optimistic for Concord

1:26:49

and Concord Open Beta dates are

1:26:51

confirmed for July this month. If

1:26:54

you've preordered the game on PC or PS

1:26:56

five, you can participate in

1:26:58

the open or not open beta, but the preorder

1:27:01

beta from July 12th to the 14th and

1:27:04

then an additional open beta for all players

1:27:06

from July 18th to the 21st. The

1:27:09

beta will feature all 16 launch characters

1:27:11

and we'll dive into the game story.

1:27:14

Let me tell you, read Jake's preview. Jake

1:27:17

was pretty, pretty surprised, pleasantly surprised

1:27:19

by this. Yeah, like

1:27:21

everyone who I've spoken to has just

1:27:23

been like, like it looks like Jake

1:27:25

is pretty good, pretty good. I

1:27:27

think the thing is, is that like maybe the the

1:27:29

people saying the thing that people are worried about is like

1:27:31

the story stuff. I don't I'm

1:27:34

going to say this. I don't think I

1:27:36

care for you. Yeah, that's a problem, I

1:27:38

guess. But like, yeah, that's

1:27:40

a disconnect. There is them showing this big,

1:27:43

you know, cinema over watch style trailer. And

1:27:45

then that's just not really what you're getting

1:27:47

gameplay wise. But it doesn't mean that the

1:27:49

gameplay is bad against like the last topic,

1:27:51

but it's more like the knee jerk reaction

1:27:54

you get from that, the disconnect. I

1:27:56

mean, I think because like I played so much over

1:27:58

watch, I couldn't really tell you. what happened

1:28:00

in the lore. I just knew like the

1:28:02

characters were fun and like Ash

1:28:05

would be a certain kind of way

1:28:07

and then Devo would be a certain kind of way. And

1:28:09

I'm like, oh, I know the Devo was a competitive gamer. That's all I

1:28:11

know. I don't understand how she got here. I

1:28:14

guess the cringy-ish thing here is like, it seems

1:28:16

like they're really like, they're telling us, you're gonna

1:28:18

like these characters because they're gonna remind

1:28:20

you that you like the characters that are like them from like

1:28:23

Overwatch Guards of the Galaxy, you're gonna like these. And

1:28:25

I'm like, don't tell me I'm gonna like them.

1:28:27

I'll decide if I like them. And then maybe

1:28:29

then you can make your cartoons and whatnot about

1:28:32

them. But like, yeah, like right

1:28:34

now you need to be selling me the

1:28:36

game. Not like this multimedia thing that you're

1:28:38

trying to accomplish with it. I

1:28:41

am still more interested in Marvel

1:28:43

Rivals than Concord. Same.

1:28:46

Oh. Perhaps the beta will sway me.

1:28:49

I'm also not thrilled about

1:28:52

this having like a 60 to $70

1:28:54

price tag to get into the game.

1:28:57

It's 40, isn't it? Boy. It's

1:28:59

40, I think to the base. It's like, just

1:29:01

like Overwatch 1. I'm a sicko who likes that

1:29:03

because I vastly preferred Overwatch

1:29:06

1's model where I paid that price one

1:29:08

time. I played so much of that game.

1:29:10

Yeah, I bought loot boxes if I wanted

1:29:12

cosmetics and that was fine. It was

1:29:14

way better than having to pay for characters

1:29:17

and season passes and whatnot. So like, I

1:29:19

think it might be a problem for them

1:29:21

because I don't think most people are like

1:29:23

me and they're going to really, you

1:29:25

know, scruff up against the idea of paying

1:29:28

40 bucks. But to me, that's a plus.

1:29:30

And sometimes the, just real

1:29:32

quick, sometimes when you get into stuff like

1:29:34

Overwatch 2 wanting to like put characters behind

1:29:36

a battle pass and stuff like that, even

1:29:38

just the optics of that was really bad

1:29:40

for a lot of people like myself. How

1:29:44

sweaty do you think Concord is going to be? Concord,

1:29:46

Concord, whatever. Mm. Like

1:29:50

are we getting Valorant levels of sweaty? No. No.

1:29:54

It could be Overwatch. Well, Overwatch. Overwatch

1:29:56

comp sweaty in its competitive

1:29:58

mode maybe. Yeah. to my

1:30:00

most team fortress to this way. To

1:30:03

be pessimistic, I don't know how good

1:30:05

this game is gonna do, so maybe

1:30:08

it does get sweaty because it's just

1:30:10

the dedicated audience, but who

1:30:12

knows. A

1:30:15

game that got surprisingly pretty sweaty because of its

1:30:17

very dedicated audience when it was picking up a

1:30:19

lot of heat was a split gate. Oh

1:30:21

yeah. Oh yeah. Oh, I can

1:30:23

see this kind of being like a split gate,

1:30:25

maybe. You know, it picks up the

1:30:28

right audience, the right type of heat. Sure. But

1:30:31

that's news to me that it's coming up for $40, but

1:30:33

you know what's coming up for $60 is

1:30:36

the Switch remaster of Donkey Kong Country

1:30:38

Returns. He's finally back. I

1:30:42

don't have any fondness for Mr.

1:30:44

Kong and his family. I

1:30:46

don't know if this remaster necessarily warrants

1:30:49

the $60 when Grubbin and I

1:30:51

talked about it last week. He was

1:30:53

more so that, hey, Nintendo realizes

1:30:55

there's a little bit more name recognition for

1:30:57

Mr. Kong than there is for Metroid. So

1:30:59

let's charge more for what people know versus

1:31:01

what we just want people to get in

1:31:03

the gate with. All

1:31:06

right, me and Mike have been talking a lot, but

1:31:08

I feel like this is gonna be just a debate

1:31:10

here. Let's go. I don't know if

1:31:12

I really buy it. I feel like

1:31:14

some of the Metroid

1:31:17

fans, sometimes we're a little like self-deprecating

1:31:23

or self-hating is a bit much. But

1:31:25

I mean, it's like, you know, we

1:31:27

talked about like, oh, they don't care

1:31:29

about Metroid. We've been getting a lot

1:31:31

of Metroid games lately. There's been a

1:31:33

lot of Metroid representation. It's not

1:31:35

like it's clearly something that does matter

1:31:37

to them and that they're investing in

1:31:40

and they see value in. And there's certainly

1:31:42

a relatively mainstream

1:31:44

component of Metroid. Look,

1:31:47

like Donkey Kong Country is, a

1:31:49

Donkey Kong Country game is gonna sell more than

1:31:51

a Metroid game. It's not like the Donkey Kong

1:31:53

Country games are the ones selling, you

1:31:55

know, the 15 million or

1:31:58

even like fitting, Donkey Kong. Country tropical

1:32:00

freeze is not sold 15 million copies. It might as well

1:32:02

10 which is kind of crazy That's

1:32:07

what they're looking at when they do these things

1:32:09

is yeah, we ported a Donkey Kong game It

1:32:11

didn't seemly well, right again like the

1:32:13

issue is like okay Metroid Prime one remaster Which

1:32:16

is really almost like a remake how much they

1:32:18

did with yeah Which is one a bait

1:32:20

as a base game was better than two so much

1:32:22

more work put into it Right and

1:32:24

that's $40 and then this which looks

1:32:27

like a very bare-bones port of a Wii

1:32:29

game is $60 so

1:32:32

yeah You desperately

1:32:34

are trying to figure out why this

1:32:36

is more expensive than a Metroid Prime

1:32:38

one remaster It's like again like yeah,

1:32:40

hey, maybe that's it's just like Oh,

1:32:42

Bucky Kong will sell more But like,

1:32:44

you know, Luigi's Mansion 2 HD is going to be

1:32:46

$60 I know Luigi's Mansion 3 so

1:32:48

well, but did like the Luigi's Mansion

1:32:50

1 remake so well No, and I

1:32:53

imagine this will be closer to that in

1:32:55

terms of performance So I don't know

1:32:57

I think sometimes we try to find

1:32:59

logic and the things Nintendo does and they're really

1:33:01

just just necessarily isn't necessarily there

1:33:04

that's our mistake big dog trying

1:33:06

to find logic with Nintendo and Then

1:33:08

I'm on the opposite side of the fence here where

1:33:10

I think we find logic

1:33:12

in Nintendo In

1:33:15

the inverse direction that Mike is look at

1:33:17

where I'm looking at this and I see

1:33:19

yeah these like big Mario style Stuff

1:33:22

is you know $60 and then

1:33:24

even like Mario vs. Donkey Kong remake

1:33:26

of a GBA game being 50 and

1:33:28

then why is Metroid only 40 I

1:33:31

think that's indicative of what Nintendo thinks

1:33:33

of these properties like still to this

1:33:35

day because As I

1:33:37

always try to remind people Metroid

1:33:39

has never sold well is never

1:33:41

done exceptionally well even dread which

1:33:43

did you know? Pretty good

1:33:45

for the series still was what it was it

1:33:48

what where to end three million Just

1:33:50

under three million three million. Yeah, like right if

1:33:53

it is good You know, but that's all really is

1:33:55

I think the strategy here

1:33:57

is Nintendo sees as it

1:34:00

doesn't sell. So let's put a budget price to

1:34:02

try to tempt more people in the door and

1:34:04

just push more copies, push the IP a little

1:34:06

bit more. You know, prime four rolls around. We

1:34:09

can't put that out for $60 and get more

1:34:11

people buying it. Whereas a Donkey Kong, they're like,

1:34:14

everyone's buying Donkey Kong. Kids are buying it.

1:34:16

Parents are buying it. You know, old school

1:34:18

gamers are buying it. So we can price

1:34:20

at 60 because we know it'll sell no

1:34:22

matter what. And I monkey's real hot right

1:34:24

now. We got the rise of the planet

1:34:26

of the shapes. They're in the balls again.

1:34:28

Yep. They got ties again. A couple of

1:34:30

quick stories before we wrap up. Take another

1:34:32

quick brick and brick and we'll be back

1:34:34

with emails. The Capcom next show

1:34:36

was yesterday. The hot 30 minutes

1:34:38

of some news. Some

1:34:41

of that news being the Resident

1:34:43

Evil 7 director, Koshi Nakanishi

1:34:45

will be directing the next RE game.

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The next RE game is probably going to be Resident

1:34:50

Evil 9. We've seen a lot of rumors swirling

1:34:53

around about RE 9 being an open world

1:34:55

game. I'm still intrigued by that. But the

1:34:57

thing that captured my

1:34:59

attention from the Capcom show

1:35:02

yesterday was the dead rising

1:35:04

deluxe remaster coming this year. It's going

1:35:06

to be using the RE engine. A

1:35:09

lot of improvements, quality of life stuff like auto

1:35:11

saving. Who knew auto saving would be a quality

1:35:13

of life thing that I would sorely need? An

1:35:15

adjusted UI, modernized controls, a bunch of more stuff.

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Like I mentioned, the remaster will be using

1:35:21

the RE engine and the deluxe edition of

1:35:23

the game will feature 17 extra

1:35:25

costumes for Frank. The thing that makes

1:35:28

me feel so much dread inside is that it's going

1:35:30

to feel kind of like a retro game in a

1:35:32

way. Not just because of when it came out but

1:35:34

because of the setting it taking place in a mall.

1:35:37

A lot of malls across America are just dying.

1:35:39

Oh yeah. You've seen what the

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old Westfield is now in San

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Francisco? It is miserable. It would

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seem very fun to ride a skateboard or

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roller skates through though. Oh for

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hey mad bombers So the

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song espresso is a huge hit and

1:38:43

I and what I suspect will be

1:38:45

everyone's inescapable song of the summer Does

1:38:47

this mean that this is summer of coffee girls

1:38:50

and boys and by association mean that this

1:38:52

is a summer of coffee king jam? Hope

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y'all enjoy some espresso martinis and spiked

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iced coffees this season Mike from Edmonton

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Alberta I don't

1:39:01

know this song and I don't drink coffee You

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don't know It's

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very okay, I listen to it for

1:39:11

a first time last night, and she's

1:39:13

not far off from what she's saying

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right now It's very okay Oh

1:39:23

switch it up like Nintendo is a line. Oh

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I like Nintendo Is

1:39:31

it like that um that guy who like did

1:39:34

the sequel to we didn't start the fire and

1:39:36

he rhymed the words Metroid with George Floyd Sequel

1:39:47

to me and on the we didn't start

1:39:49

the phone not knowing that was fall out

1:39:51

boy of all things Far

1:39:56

boys big smash the sequel to we

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did it It's funny

1:40:00

is because it was fall out boy a band

1:40:02

most people don't think of and it was a

1:40:04

bad version He

1:40:10

was such a culture shock to me though

1:40:12

because here when that song dropped

1:40:15

everyone had like the what I think is

1:40:17

It was the right feeling of like maybe

1:40:19

we shouldn't have done this also. Maybe we

1:40:21

shouldn't have Ryan George

1:40:23

Floyd with Metroid What

1:40:25

about rhyming? Lebanon with

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QAnon The

1:40:30

lyrics right now Look,

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I I like fall out boy, and I

1:40:34

think that their most recent album is actually

1:40:36

their best so much for stardust I Also

1:40:40

know that I forget who

1:40:42

does I think someone actually told me Pete once

1:40:44

does the the lyrics they can't write lyrics for

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shit So why did they do we didn't start

1:40:49

the fire? Great Pacific

1:40:51

garbage patch Tom DeLonge and

1:40:53

aliens Mars Rover avatar self-driving

1:40:55

electric cars SSR

1:40:57

I Prince and the Queen die world

1:40:59

trade second plane. What else do I

1:41:01

have to say? Look

1:41:06

wait back alarm already brought this up

1:41:09

forever ago when this first came out

1:41:11

But the biggest crime with that song

1:41:13

is that they didn't go in order.

1:41:15

It's not chronological Yeah, it's not chronological.

1:41:17

That's the biggest problem. Obviously the large

1:41:19

shot I was like that would be

1:41:21

the point like I literally in my

1:41:24

you AP US history class That's how

1:41:26

we like memorize modern history was we

1:41:28

didn't start the fire. That was the

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