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Welcome. Welcome to another episode of gold

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mines where we do amazing

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things We do amazing things because we

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talk to amazing people and these amazing

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people have amazing minds minds That

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I feel like you need to get into

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hits why I do the podcast today's

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guest is no different I

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love that I can say that and I actually mean

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it You know how some people say things and they

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prompt or amp up the world of their guests and

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they hype it up And then the person is

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said and people like huh that has

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never happened with me on this show because

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I mean what I say These are interesting

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minds. Ladies and gentlemen today's guest is no

0:53

other than Terry Cruz. What's going on Terry?

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How you doing, man? What's up, Kev? How

0:57

you doing, man? Oh my goodness. Thank you

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for having me on this man. Oh, man

1:02

Thank you for being had brother. First of all, let's

1:04

address the introduction You know, this is my favorite part

1:06

of the show when I get to introduce

1:08

people right because I set the tone Terry Okay, it's

1:11

about setting the tone, right? I like it. I like

1:13

it I'm excited for this conversation because I feel like

1:15

there's so many lanes that we can go down Right

1:18

real questions with real answers. So for me,

1:20

man, you know, you embrace so many different

1:22

things that I admire I think

1:24

the first thing that I have to highlight

1:27

is just your commitment to your household to

1:29

your family I know that that's something that

1:31

has been near and dear to your heart

1:33

throughout your career You've been vocal about that

1:35

And the other thing is your ambition your

1:37

hustle the energy that you've put into

1:39

your craft and I don't even want to just

1:41

say One version of

1:43

the craft because you're multi-layered right you

1:45

found a way to make yourself valuable

1:48

in the business where some

1:50

people struggle to find a

1:54

existence a Place of

1:56

comfort right where they can sustain some

1:58

type of cadence I guess you

2:01

could say that keeps them in a place

2:03

of consistent work. You, my friend, have nailed

2:05

that in a coffin. And I admire that

2:07

because it's something that is earned, not given

2:10

and developed over the course of time. I

2:12

want to start off with the basics, man, because there's

2:15

little things that I don't know. The first thing Terry

2:17

is, where are you from? I'm from Flint, Michigan. The

2:20

Flint, Michigan. The infamous Flint, Michigan. Yeah,

2:22

I mean, right now, shit, conversation attached

2:24

to Flint. Yeah, it's a real conversation

2:26

right now. Came up in the whole,

2:29

I was born in 68. But

2:32

this is the thing, man. Flint, when

2:34

I was a kid, Flint was amazing.

2:36

Flint was like Palo Alto. General

2:39

Motors was the number one corporation

2:41

in the world. It

2:43

was Google. Absolutely. You know what I

2:45

mean? Everybody worked at the shop. Everybody

2:47

worked at the factory. My father worked

2:49

for Buick. My grandmother worked

2:52

at AC Sparkbug. Everybody

2:54

I knew had a job with

2:56

GM, and then it ended.

2:58

When I say ended, I mean, once

3:01

the gas crisis hit, once the

3:03

late 70s hit, I was about

3:05

eight, nine years old, and everything

3:07

started to change. And then the

3:09

crack epidemic hit in the 1980s,

3:13

and it was nuts, man. I

3:15

mean, people went from the factory

3:17

into being drug kingpins. It

3:20

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Mines. Isn't it crazy now how

4:15

you're talking about these eras, right,

4:17

we're talking about these eras of

4:19

life, but you're

4:21

now sitting in a place

4:24

where you're reminiscing of, oh my God,

4:26

man, this was the era where general

4:28

motors, if you had a job at

4:30

this factory, it was it, you were set, then it

4:32

ended, then crack started. It's like you're talking about these,

4:35

and right now, we're currently living

4:37

in a time that we will be reminiscing

4:39

about when we say things like it was

4:41

when the pandemic hit. It

4:43

was when COVID really

4:46

struck the world by storm. It's

4:48

when the economy took the massive

4:50

dip. Like we're now living

4:53

in, well, I can say me, I'm

4:55

younger than you, but like hearing you

4:57

talk, it makes me like really think

5:00

about the fact that we're witnessing historic

5:02

things that we're gonna reflect back on,

5:04

that after surviving, you know,

5:06

your stance is gonna be significant in

5:08

how you were doing it versus how

5:11

you are now. You talking about being

5:13

young when that happened, drug

5:15

pins and shit, and foot mystery, I mean, how

5:18

close were you to the world of?

5:20

Like, was it from family within or

5:22

friends or what? How close? First of

5:24

all, I had family that were addicted

5:26

to crack, that, you know, I had

5:29

a relative who stole my grandmother's

5:32

riding lawnmower in the middle

5:34

of winter, drove it in

5:36

the snow. There you go. And wait,

5:38

the tracks went all the way out into the street. That's

5:42

how crazy it was. And if

5:44

it wasn't nailed down, it was

5:46

gone. You know, my grandmother used

5:49

to hide stuff in our house

5:51

and it would get stolen. So,

5:55

you know, there was no safe place to

5:57

put anything because it was gone. You know, my

5:59

dad, right? first

28:00

time I went in was because I was alone because

28:02

my wife had left and she was like,

28:04

you can't come home. And I

28:06

was like, wow. And I went

28:08

in and I started learning back at the bottom again.

28:10

First thing they asked me, they was like, you're probably

28:13

alcoholic. I was like, yeah. And so was your mom

28:15

very religious? I was like, how'd you know that? And

28:18

I was like, they started reading my mail, you

28:20

know what I mean? And all these things started

28:22

to come out, man. And I had to just

28:24

break it down. Like, why am

28:26

I thinking the way I'm thinking then over

28:29

years and of all this learning, I went back

28:32

and apologize and I went back, man. I

28:34

had a lot of writing, man, where I

28:36

had to write down and be

28:39

honest about the violence that

28:41

I had done to my family, not

28:43

physically, but mentally, like, you

28:46

know, just even verbally, it's

28:48

just still bad, you know. And like

28:51

I said, it was those rules to me, you

28:54

know, to me, you have to go through the

28:56

worst of times to know that you in the

28:58

best of times, you know what I

29:00

mean? Like we had been through, but my kids,

29:02

like you said, they have a whole different temperature.

29:04

Like they've been living a whole

29:06

nother way, but I

29:08

was applying the same rules and it

29:10

was brutal. It was brutal. It was

29:12

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back to gold mines with host

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Kevin Hart. You

30:47

know what's crazy, T? Man, first of all,

30:49

this is such an amazing conversation. And this

30:51

is why I love the tone

30:54

and temperature of the show. Because you can't plan

30:56

this. You can't prep this, right? Like you can't,

30:58

hey, Terry, here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna

31:00

unpack all this shit on this park. That's not

31:02

what this is, right? You gotta, you gotta, you

31:04

gotta, you gotta, you gotta, I just got a

31:06

cup. What I really love here, man, you said

31:08

something and I want to go back to

31:10

it, right? You're talking about at

31:12

the time, the visual of

31:15

Terry Crews is one of, oh my

31:17

God, Terry Crews is on top of

31:19

the fucking world, right? I mean, you

31:21

know, we, we skipped it, but there

31:23

was a transition from football where you

31:25

figured out what to do after and

31:27

then the acting bug presents itself with,

31:29

oh my God, you starting to find

31:31

success in acting. You're in movies, you're

31:33

everywhere. It's starting to go and blossom.

31:35

And you're talking about it this time

31:37

when the world sees Terry Crews, it's,

31:39

oh my God, there's Terry Crews. We

31:41

love him. But in this moment of

31:43

receiving love, you're not

31:46

feeling loved and you're

31:48

at the fucking low. Families falling

31:50

apart, shits and shambles. And, and

31:52

there's nothing, I think

31:54

there's nothing, there is nothing more,

31:57

I will

31:59

say the. The thing that defines

32:01

the character that we've discovered, that we find

32:03

out that we have who we

32:05

are, it's in these moments. Because it's

32:07

in these moments when it's very easy

32:10

to go fuck this shit, fuck

32:12

this shit, fuck everybody. It is

32:14

what it is, I'm done. Like,

32:17

and you fold. You choose the

32:19

role of a chair and you

32:21

fucking fold. And you lay

32:23

down and then somebody eventually picks you up, puts

32:25

you in a corner and that chair is not

32:28

forgotten about and never used to sit on again.

32:30

But it's the other side of

32:33

it that goes fuck man, I'm down,

32:35

I'm not right, but I'm

32:37

gonna figure this out. And Terry, like,

32:40

that's the part that I'm like, wow.

32:43

It's not the muscles, it's not

32:45

the fucking height, it's not

32:47

the goddamn career. Like at

32:50

this point, it's the opportunity

32:53

to take the choice of a folding

32:55

chair and go, that's not me. And

32:58

then choose to correct it. After

33:00

correcting it, what was the winning factor

33:03

that you felt? Well, I don't wanna use the word

33:05

winning because that's not the right word. What was

33:08

the thing that you felt acted

33:11

as a display of real

33:13

change and chance? Like,

33:15

what's the thing that the fan was

33:17

like, wow, dad really is trying. What

33:19

do you think that thing was? Hey

33:22

man, it was one moment. I'm

33:24

gonna tell you this man, I get choked up

33:26

when I think about it, because it's incredible. We

33:28

were all in Hawaii. And

33:32

what happened is my son spilled the drink

33:34

on the table and was

33:37

water everywhere. And

33:39

I stood up and I said, hey man,

33:41

that's okay. You know, we all make

33:43

mistakes. It's all good, man, we'll

33:45

just get some more water. Now, Kev, everybody

33:48

at the table was like, looking at me, eyes

33:51

wide open, like,

33:53

I can't believe this. My wife looked

33:55

at me like, what? Could you understand

33:57

what would have happened before? Yeah. What

34:00

are you doing? You know, I paid for it. That damn boy. That

34:03

damn boy. You drink some water? Good

34:05

Lord. You know, like damn. I

34:08

was like, what? You

34:10

ain't no, you know what I'm saying? Like you

34:12

got hands? Use them. You know, oh dude. And

34:15

wait, he three, you know what I mean? It

34:19

would have been brutal. And you know, he had

34:21

four older sisters. They would have went and run

34:23

and screamed and he spilled the water. You

34:26

don't know how many events I ruined.

34:28

How many things, because I went off

34:31

and wouldn't stop. And

34:33

my wife was like, you're just out of control.

34:36

My wife looked at me. Man.

34:41

And she said, Terry, you

34:43

different. You

34:45

different, man. Terry.

34:49

And I couldn't believe it, because it caught

34:51

me off guard when she said

34:53

it. Because I've been living. I've

34:55

been doing this thing. And she

34:57

was like, Terry, hey man, you are

35:00

a different person. And

35:02

that was the moment I knew I

35:04

was never going back. Like never,

35:06

ever, ever. That patience,

35:08

that empathy, that care. I'm

35:11

wiping up the table and we

35:14

continue today. Oh my

35:16

God, Kev. That was the

35:18

moment everything was different for me, man. Now

35:20

again, this was years after the therapy. I

35:22

gotta say it. We was like eight, nine

35:25

years in. Yeah, it doesn't matter. You saw

35:27

a return in the investment. You

35:29

saw a return in the investment. I got a

35:31

doozy for you right now. After

35:34

the change, after noticing

35:36

the change, you're still

35:38

in the entertainment business. You're still very much

35:41

a person that's embedded into this thing.

35:43

And this machine, this machine is what

35:46

drives the car of

35:48

negativity at times. This is what

35:50

drives the car of

35:52

that monster, that ego that we just

35:54

were discussing. I gotta be the best.

35:57

Am I not the best? Where am

35:59

I? What is your stance now in

36:01

the business? How

36:06

do you approach your craft now, right?

36:08

Like have things changed for you mentally

36:10

in the space of work? And if

36:13

so, how? I would love to hear

36:15

your thoughts on that. I

36:17

got two sayings and this is really the

36:20

essence of how I approach the business. I

36:23

would rather be whole than good. I

36:26

would rather be happy than right. And

36:29

this is what I mean. You

36:31

know, before I was all about my image, before

36:34

it was all about the goodness of

36:36

Terry Crews. Boy, he is, he got

36:39

it all together. Make sure, you know,

36:41

I was, listen, I would

36:43

never open my wife's car door. Nobody was

36:45

looking. You know what I mean?

36:47

But soon somebody's looking, I'm running over. I got you,

36:49

baby. I got you, baby, hold on. I

36:51

got you, I got you. She called me on

36:53

it. She's like, you're a fucking fake. You a

36:56

fake, you a fake fucking. And

36:58

wait, and the people was out there filming. I

37:01

was like, shh, shh, be

37:03

quiet. I was like, don't, you fucking

37:05

fake. I said, no, uh, uh. And

37:08

then I turned to the camera. It's like, she's

37:10

playing, she's playing. She's like, I ain't playing. You

37:13

a fucking fake. Listen,

37:16

I pull up at the house. I'm like, girl, open the

37:18

door. Open the damn door. You know how to open it.

37:20

We home, we home. Why you have to help us? Get

37:22

your ass out the car. Got your name.

37:26

But now, Kevin, when I say

37:28

I'd rather be whole, meaning

37:31

good and bad, everything. You see, this

37:34

is why I've been so transparent.

37:36

Like, now you know. More people

37:39

know more about me than

37:41

I know about them. You know what I

37:43

mean? Because I've been really just telling it

37:45

for years. After therapy, I've been

37:48

telling the thing with pornography addiction and telling

37:50

this stuff about me and my wife breaking

37:52

up and getting her together and telling all

37:54

the issues, even personal issues with

37:57

my dad and all this stuff. me

38:00

whole. And some people listen, and

38:02

this is the thing. Now I know there are people

38:04

who love me, there are people who don't give a

38:07

damn, and there are people who hate

38:09

my guts. And I'm fine with all

38:11

three of them. You know what

38:13

I mean? That's what being whole makes you. Being

38:15

good, if I

38:17

couldn't impress you, I would do whatever I

38:19

had to do to impress you. Like if

38:21

you didn't like me, you held the key.

38:24

You know what I mean? I was like,

38:26

I gotta somehow get your favor. You know

38:28

what I mean? And that would cause, listen,

38:30

but I can't do nothing about people not

38:32

liking me. There's nothing I can do about

38:34

that. You know what I

38:36

mean? I realize, let it go, man. And

38:40

that's where when I approach

38:42

entertainment like this, it's refreshing,

38:44

man. In fact, I don't

38:46

have to be right. I'd

38:48

rather just be happy. Like,

38:51

okay, man, you do right one, then fine.

38:53

But now I'm going to go

38:56

into my job grateful, grateful

38:59

for every opportunity I get

39:01

and understanding that this is a blessing. This

39:04

is a honor. This is a place, this

39:06

is an honor and a privilege to serve

39:08

people. You know what I'm saying? Through entertainment

39:11

and not treated like, oh man, I gotta

39:13

do this. And I got, no, I get

39:15

to do this. You know

39:18

what I mean? Change is the

39:20

whole framework, Kev. And all

39:22

of a sudden when I had that mindset,

39:25

opportunities keep coming. You know what

39:27

I mean? It's like jobs keep

39:29

coming. People keep coming. You know,

39:32

the levels keep getting bigger and greater,

39:35

but with no loss, with

39:37

no loss. And I said,

39:39

man, this is how I want to live. This is

39:41

how I want to be from here

39:43

on out. I don't, listen, and I

39:46

don't need anybody's approval, but

39:48

I know I'm given everything I got

39:50

every time I do it out of

39:53

respect for the craft, out of respect

39:55

for my audience and out of respect

39:57

for people. And now I'm good. And

40:00

whatever, if you don't like it cool, if

40:02

you do, great. I'm with you. You're on

40:04

the other side. You're on the other side

40:07

of life. And

40:09

I'm not talking about age. I'm talking about

40:12

understanding. And

40:14

I'm chasing it. I'm not

40:17

chasing, but I'm discovering

40:20

that I'm much

40:22

closer to the realization of some

40:25

of the things that you're talking about. You're

40:28

talking about that H word. And

40:30

that H word, that

40:32

H word is like people

40:35

don't really, I don't think

40:37

people understand the true definition of it through

40:40

a certain time of their life. We think

40:42

we understand what happy means. We think we

40:44

have an idea of what

40:46

happy is. But it's not until you

40:48

get to a point of true happiness

40:51

and release that you go, oh, this

40:53

is it. Oh, this

40:55

is the clear side of it,

40:57

where you're able to be who

40:59

you are 1,000%. And

41:03

that's a journey. It's a journey to

41:05

get to that place. It's a journey to become

41:08

that person. It doesn't matter who you are, 1,000%

41:10

is a, that's not 100. 1,000%

41:15

is 1,000. So

41:18

as I'm talking to you, I'm realizing like,

41:21

you're at that 1,000% mark. And

41:23

you're at that, to your

41:26

point, whole happy mark where

41:29

at the end of the day, you're just

41:32

happy that you go

41:34

to sleep knowing who the fuck you are

41:37

and knowing that you are 1,000% honest about

41:39

who you are. And

41:43

there's no fake or wool

41:46

or door that has

41:48

to be opened up to get the seat.

41:50

Like I've got to a point to where

41:53

this is it. The foundation

41:55

to your building is built with different

41:57

brick now, where before motherfuckers to your

41:59

point. could come and kick those bricks down and

42:01

you can have holes all in your house. I

42:04

like Legos. I would never tell people

42:06

I love playing with Legos. They'd be

42:08

like, I put my stuff together and all

42:10

this. And before I would

42:13

change to whatever scene I was

42:15

in. You know what I

42:17

mean? Okay, they don't like this or okay, I don't like

42:19

it right now. You like that movie? I'd

42:21

be like, well, what do you think? And then

42:23

all of a sudden you don't like it. Nah, I don't

42:25

like it. I didn't have an opinion.

42:28

Now I'm unapologetic. I mean, it's

42:31

about being who I am. I'm

42:33

a bouncer. That's what I do. I'm

42:36

okay with that. I like Legos. I

42:39

do that. I'm not ashamed to

42:42

say the things that I like and the

42:44

things that I don't. And I'm not ashamed

42:46

to have a viewpoint. You know

42:48

what I mean? And to really just say, this

42:50

is how I feel about this thing. You

42:52

know what I mean? And a lot of

42:54

people didn't like certain things that I've said

42:57

before, but it's okay. That comes from the

42:59

therapy. It comes from like, hey

43:01

man, I have to

43:03

be honest with myself. Because if you imagine,

43:05

if you're lying to yourself, bruh, what

43:08

do you have? You got nothing. You

43:11

know what I mean? And that's where I

43:13

was. I was always, always telling myself a

43:15

story. And now I'm

43:17

living it. Now I'm living,

43:19

doing. And it's

43:21

so refreshing, bro. And again,

43:25

who knows, man? I don't even

43:27

know if I'm gonna be in entertainment forever. It's

43:29

one of the things where I get

43:32

satisfaction doing a lot of different things.

43:34

You know what I'm saying? Outside of

43:36

the business. But at

43:39

the same time, I'm not gonna do

43:41

anything I don't love. And when

43:43

you see me on AGT, you

43:45

know I love that show. I love

43:47

being that host. When you see me

43:50

on a TV show, when you see

43:52

me acting, I chose that. And

43:54

I want people to be inspired. Like

43:57

man, he giving everything he got. And

43:59

everything I... ever done, I want to

44:02

be known that I gave everything I had.

44:04

To me, that's a great place. You know

44:06

what I'm saying? It's really just giving everything

44:09

you've got without that judgment.

44:11

Because you know, one thing about this

44:13

is that judgment kills creativity. That's

44:15

one thing I discovered. When you're judging things,

44:17

you can't be creative. It stops. And

44:20

so I stay in this mode of

44:22

creativity so that I can't be,

44:25

I get rid of all the judgment and

44:27

I just operate in love out of respect

44:29

for the business, I have respect for all

44:32

of the fans and the people that love

44:34

what I do. But

44:37

I don't know if I'm gonna be in

44:40

Hollywood forever. It's one of those things

44:42

where I find satisfaction in so many

44:44

other things as well. It's

44:47

like, I thought I would be a football player forever.

44:50

And I went way past that. And

44:52

I think it's almost gonna be the same thing

44:54

with Hollywood or any of this stuff. Where there's

44:57

more stuff for me to do that's

44:59

past Hollywood. It's a

45:01

different purpose. You know what I'm saying? I'm saying 1000% like

45:04

a person that has the cadence to

45:11

talk in front of people that

45:13

identify in

45:16

the same space, right? Like when you

45:19

go to the motivational speaking or

45:21

conferences and you see a motivational speaker or

45:24

somebody that knows how to

45:26

uplift, that

45:28

knows how to relate. Like

45:31

that's almost like off

45:33

season, on season, right? Like your acting

45:35

can be one portion of a season

45:37

and then you have this other side

45:39

that acts as a significant, I

45:43

guess you could say portion to what you can do. The

45:46

world of story, man. Like this is

45:48

a, Terry, I had no idea. And

45:50

your story is, we're

45:52

talking and this has been 40 minutes

45:55

that we've been talking. So, you know,

45:57

I can only imagine what your story

45:59

would look like through the course of

46:01

said pages, right? Like if you were

46:03

to go and really, really put

46:06

that down and give people an opportunity

46:09

to really understand you

46:11

look inside, but only,

46:13

only for the sole purpose of

46:15

giving other people the confidence that

46:17

they can talk and that they

46:19

can free themselves as well. That

46:22

journey, that's a fucking special journey,

46:24

man. That's a special journey. I

46:26

did write a book. It came out last

46:29

year. It's called Tough. It's

46:31

called Tough. It came out

46:33

last April. Look at that layup.

46:35

Look at that fucking layup. Look

46:37

at that layup. Hey. And

46:40

it's everything I'm talking about right now.

46:42

Everything. Goddamn it, Terry, we're going to do it

46:44

correctly. Guys, you

46:47

saw how interested I was in the story and the

46:49

first thing that I said with

46:52

knowing that, I suggest

46:55

you educate yourself. We

46:57

don't normally do the plugs. We don't normally

46:59

do promotion or marketing on here. No, this

47:01

is because it's just conversation. So this is

47:04

why I'm telling you why I like this

47:06

moment. This is a fucking thing where you

47:08

should, I'm going to fucking get it because

47:10

I want to read it because there's so

47:12

much that I relate to. The

47:15

book is called Tough. And

47:17

by the way, amazing title,

47:20

amazing fucking title. That's

47:22

it. I got

47:24

another doozy for you. So now,

47:27

right? Change, man. I mean,

47:29

God, we went through the

47:32

stages and as we went through the stages,

47:34

we've peeled back layers. I

47:37

want to know what is the, like,

47:39

what are the family events now, right?

47:41

Like, you know, kids are older. Like

47:43

you said, you got a 30 plus

47:46

year marriage at this point, right? When

47:50

you guys get together now, what's

47:52

the change? Is it a location?

47:54

Is it just a house? Are

47:56

the dinners more special? Are the

47:58

talks more special? Is it the

48:01

games? What's the amplification of love

48:03

and environment now with

48:07

dealing with the new version of dad, the

48:10

understanding and loving version? Not that you

48:12

didn't love before, it was just a

48:14

tougher love, right? So like, what's the

48:17

tone and temperature now with the fam?

48:19

You know what, the tone

48:21

and temperature now is listening. Listening.

48:26

I have four daughters and my son's

48:28

the youngest and I realized

48:31

with my girls that I never really

48:34

listened, even when they were young, you know,

48:36

you already know that. You got the answer before they

48:38

even opened their mouth. You know what I mean? And

48:41

now I just listen

48:44

and let them know that

48:47

I am 100% in their favor of, and

48:52

it's my job as a father, but

48:55

to help them achieve what they

48:57

want, not what I want, which

48:59

is a whole another thing that I

49:01

would use to do. It was all about, I

49:04

had this plan for every one of my kids

49:06

that, you know, if you ain't doing it, then

49:08

you all. And I

49:10

realized that it's got to be

49:12

what they want. And

49:15

I'm listening. And, you

49:17

know, sometimes they get real brutal. Like they

49:19

can come up to me and tell me

49:21

what they didn't like, what they, you know,

49:23

they can be honest with me and it

49:25

won't come with repercussions. But

49:28

at the same time, it's

49:30

just literally listening and

49:33

hearing every last one of

49:35

my kids, which is

49:37

something that we did not have when

49:39

they were younger. And they're adults.

49:41

I mean, my oldest daughter is, she's 36.

49:45

It's wild. 36, then 30, then 24, then 20. And

49:50

my son's 17. We, me and my wife

49:52

about to be out the house. But

49:55

we, our job, and me and my

49:57

wife, is just to literally

49:59

give. them that guidance, man, and

50:02

give them that support and that security, man.

50:05

And I feel great about

50:07

where we are, man, as a family. Is there

50:09

a stage of, like,

50:12

when you're talking about, yeah, I don't know if

50:14

I'm going to do this. And maybe there's something

50:16

else after. Is the thought of retirement on your

50:18

mind? Or is there a concept of

50:20

that or what it looks like? Never.

50:24

I'm too, dude, I'm too angry. It

50:26

just you go see me out there

50:29

fixing the streets. There

50:32

is no work is ingrained in

50:34

me. Like, I wake up literally

50:37

four or five in the morning like, I got

50:39

to do something like a dinner, two hour workout,

50:41

just so I can get to normal. You

50:44

know, I mean, I have endless energy.

50:46

I'll be 55 this year. And

50:48

I have nothing but energy. I'm always looking

50:50

for stuff to do. You know what

50:53

I mean? I can't I can't turn off

50:55

because it's so much fun, you know. But

50:58

now it's just about channeling it in the right

51:00

direction. Yeah. You know what I mean? And not

51:02

worrying about the outcome, not worrying about what people

51:04

say about it. It's just put the work out.

51:07

Put the work out. You know, you got to

51:09

ship it. You know what I mean? Show it.

51:12

And that's where I'm at. I'll never retire,

51:14

by the way. Never. It's it's

51:16

literally a change in my shift. But

51:19

I'll be out there. Like I said, if I'm

51:21

a motivational speaker, I'm on the road. I

51:24

got to go. Let's go. Book me up.

51:26

You know what I mean? Let's go. I

51:28

love the energy. What's the world of like,

51:31

what you want to do? Right? Like,

51:33

is there anything left that you feel

51:36

you haven't done in the business

51:38

that you would love to do? And

51:40

that can be from TV to movies

51:42

to, you know, live entertainment to, you

51:45

know, whatever across the board. Like you're

51:47

talking about tapping into the world of

51:49

journalism, being an author, your book tough.

51:52

I mean, that's a stage. Is there

51:54

is there more just

51:56

on the side of want from Terry

51:58

Crew? You know, Wow,

52:00

man. I've done pretty

52:03

much a lot, but... I've

52:06

done a lot of shit. I've done a lot. But my

52:09

thing right now is it's kind

52:12

of wild because

52:15

I still haven't directed.

52:18

And I want to know that there are

52:20

projects that I have in my head that

52:22

I'm like, I'm gonna produce some things. I've

52:25

acted in a lot of things, but

52:27

there are ideas. It's just like drawing

52:29

a picture that

52:31

I grew up with. And I came to Hollywood

52:34

to be behind the scenes and direct and never

52:36

had a chance to do that yet. And

52:38

that's coming. That's coming. By

52:40

the way, that'll keep you busy for a minute. You

52:44

start to get behind that goddamn chair and you'll be fucking

52:46

85. 85.

52:48

You can always say cut. You

52:51

can always say act. You can

52:54

always walk to the next location to sit

52:56

in the chair. You can always do that.

52:58

Right. Terry, man, this

53:00

was a conversation that

53:02

I not only enjoyed, I just

53:05

learned a lot from. I listened to a

53:07

lot of the things you said. A lot of the

53:10

stuff resonated with me and

53:13

for different reasons, right? Dude,

53:15

I just wanna congratulate you

53:17

just on your growth, on

53:20

the work that you've put in on yourself,

53:24

on maintaining through the ups, the

53:27

downs, the good, the bad, the

53:29

ugly, the world of family, man.

53:31

You know, at the end of

53:33

the day, we don't highlight

53:35

that world of good woman

53:38

enough, but man, you

53:40

know, when you get one, you

53:43

sometimes don't see it until

53:46

shit is almost no longer. And

53:49

you know, you know you got a

53:51

fucking golden one. You know, you got

53:53

a good one. And you know what

53:56

that woman has endured and sat

53:58

through. and while

54:00

maintaining the foundation of family around

54:03

her, man, so, you know, amazing

54:05

shout out to the wife, amazing

54:07

shout out to you. And

54:10

I love the fact that you're vocal and transparent

54:12

about it, man, because there's people out there that

54:14

need to hear this. There's people out there that

54:16

need to understand, like there's always a world and

54:19

way to recovery, but you gotta wanna do the

54:21

work. And you're an example of doing the work,

54:23

brother. It's a

54:25

beautiful fucking thing to see and now

54:28

understand. Listen, I gotta give up to

54:30

you, man, too. You've

54:32

been a brilliant example in

54:34

this business, man. The work

54:36

ethic is unparalleled. It's beautiful.

54:40

You have shown everybody that

54:42

if you want more, you must

54:44

do more. You are a thinker,

54:46

you are a planner, you have

54:49

laid out like destinies

54:51

for so many people under you, man.

54:53

I just wanna thank you for just

54:55

laying out all these things, the

54:58

jobs, the people, the opportunities you've

55:00

given so many through your comedy,

55:03

through your voice, through your world,

55:05

through... I remember going to your

55:07

studio, man, and you inspired me,

55:09

man. I built the

55:11

studio in Pasadena because I went to

55:13

your place. I said, man, what am I doing with my

55:16

life? What am I doing?

55:18

I said, I

55:20

ain't doing shit. Kevin Hart is

55:22

doing all of that. Man, and

55:25

listen, there's not a competition, but

55:27

I was like, man, you got to

55:30

get busy. You know what I

55:32

mean? It's like, yo, you was highlighting, like, man,

55:34

ain't no excuses, bro. And

55:37

I went, damn it, you're right. Thank

55:39

you, thank you, thank you for being

55:41

that person. You see what I'm saying?

55:44

That showed what could be possible. You

55:47

exist to show us what's possible, man. Thank

55:49

you. Iron sharpens

55:51

iron, and that's what we did today,

55:53

man. We really did. Like,

55:56

I'm inspired, I'm motivated, and

55:59

it's just a discussion. I just like the journey

56:01

that you put on display of self. And

56:04

that's the one thing that you're always working on, the

56:06

old self. So for my listeners, you know what's special

56:10

about this podcast? It's the goal that we're able to

56:13

pick up. And I'll be damned if we didn't get

56:15

there today. This is goal minds. And you know what

56:17

we do? We get inside the minds of amazing

56:20

people. And like I told you at the top,

56:22

today would be no different. What an amazing mind

56:24

this was. Ladies

56:26

and gentlemen, Terry Crews. Love you,

56:29

Kev. And I love you back, brother.

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