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be. Convenient, comfortable. Sometimes

1:16

we consciously plagiarize them too and that is

1:18

distinct. It's tougher when people are doing it

1:20

consciously and I think you can sort of

1:22

tell. I wrote a

1:24

joke song for the garage show and I was like after I

1:26

played it a couple of times, I was like this is great. I was

1:28

putting it together. I was like this is

1:31

the melody of Sadie Hawkins dance. That's

1:33

okay though. Yeah, yeah. I'm just saying but it

1:35

came from, you know, I was just thinking of,

1:38

I was trying to get nothing and

1:40

it came out like that. I think with music, with

1:42

music too it's like unavoidable. But

1:45

you're going to be like, you're

1:47

going to repeat your like melody lines that stick

1:49

in your craw and things like that. It might

1:51

be as unavoidable in comedy. I wonder,

1:53

I really do. I

1:56

wonder, yeah, the conversation. Not for me. Okay,

1:59

go ahead. The only original out

2:01

here. Yeah, the only original in the

2:03

game. The one true original visionary voice.

2:05

Yeah. I'm joking. You're

2:08

kind of joking. You're pretty

2:10

serious. You're like, Well, okay. I

2:13

understand your point. Yeah, I guess I'm just like, the

2:16

reason why I really do try to do that is because,

2:19

and what I do to try

2:22

to be like doing my own thing is like, I

2:24

really try to do personal

2:26

stories. Yeah. Because

2:29

then I know there's no way I'm going to play dress. This

2:31

is something happening. And then do

2:33

you know what I mean? Like, because I get in my

2:35

head about that kind of stuff. Yeah. Chris

2:38

Farley, Adam Sandler, David Spade.

2:41

These were the guys, and Molly Shannon. You

2:43

sound 60. You sound

2:45

60 years old. You're

2:48

naming the most famous SNL

2:50

comedians of 1990. But

2:53

they were the guys that everybody was watching like, this

2:55

is comedy. And we were like, okay. And it is

2:57

comedy. And it is funny. But now we don't have

2:59

that. We have people on TikTok and people go, and

3:01

little kids are going to watch it. I'll be like,

3:03

oh, I guess this is comedy. And they're going to

3:05

think that's what's funny. Do you know what I

3:07

mean? Well, they won't get very far with that. If

3:09

that's what you're worried about. It's

3:12

changing the brain chemistry of

3:15

kids. I'm so glad I'm recording.

3:17

Training them to think this

3:20

is what comedy is. I'm not joking. You

3:22

can record it. I don't

3:24

agree that that's good comedy, like

3:27

that sort of crap. And the derivative stuff

3:29

that I don't care for. But

3:31

I still think it's a net

3:33

positive that more people have more

3:36

audience. Wrong. Okay.

3:40

But by this premise, you

3:42

would have... No

3:46

one would know who you are, unless

3:48

you got through the auditions on Gaslit.

3:51

And you know what I mean? And you got this

3:53

bit part here and this bit part, but no one

3:55

would respond to your stuff. It's fine for me because

3:57

I'm a trained comedian. I

4:00

know what's funny. But who are you to

4:02

say like I agree and I

4:04

think you're funny and I think you're funnier

4:06

than these people. But this like

4:08

the sort of thing it's dangerous. And if

4:10

I had to give up my platform in

4:12

order for people like that to not have

4:14

a platform, I would do it in a

4:16

heartbeat because I don't believe I

4:18

don't believe that overall you believe in

4:20

you believe in cancel culture. What?

4:24

No, I'm saying like well, I had to give

4:26

up my platform in order for people that aren't

4:29

funny to not be able to be posting. I

4:31

would do it. Does

4:34

that make sense? Welcome to Good Christian

4:36

Post. And may I see how

4:40

I'm bringing it in. I

4:43

like that laugh. Yeah,

5:00

baby. Come

5:59

on. Welcome to

6:02

Good Christian Fun. I'm Kevin. I'm Jeremy.

6:04

And I'm Alyssa. And we're here to

6:06

have Good Christian Fun. Are

6:11

you gonna keep that monologue in? Which

6:13

one? The one at the end or the beginning? The one I did at the beginning. Yes.

6:17

Emma, Emma, keep it in. I,

6:19

hold on, I need to approve

6:22

where it starts. No. But

6:24

come on, Kevin. Nobody

6:27

understands what was happening before that. But

6:30

I think it should be, it would be funny if we had dramatic music

6:32

playing under it. Just like that, that exact

6:34

music. Yeah, that music. I

6:36

mean, in a way, it's sort of

6:38

an extension of your sensibility. Kind of

6:40

is. It's very connected. I've never related

6:42

to a monologue more than that monologue in

6:45

Magnolia. Oh yeah, sure. That's

6:47

of course Julian Moore. So good.

6:49

That's Linda Partridge in the Paul

6:51

Thomas Anderson movie Magnolia. Have you seen Magnolia,

6:53

Jeremy? I've never seen. Oh,

6:56

we're starting out with another, you've never seen that. I

6:59

know. Here we go again.

7:02

You've never seen She's All

7:04

That or Magnolia. The two

7:06

movies. Those are the two

7:08

movies that

7:11

shaped me and

7:13

shaped a generation. Magnolia

7:16

is incredible. Yeah, of course. We'll watch

7:18

it with Jeremy. That was a big

7:20

deal. Very, very religious, very Christian in

7:22

its context too. We could watch it for this

7:25

freaking pie. It could work. And get away with

7:27

it. It could work. Next to this eight two,

7:29

the plagues, of course. No spoilers. I've heard of

7:31

those. Oh yeah. Oh

7:33

man, we're here to have good Christian fun. It's

7:35

the podcast where we talk about Christian pop culture,

7:37

the music, the movies, the entertainment made for, made

7:40

by Christians. But we're not here to make fun

7:42

of you or to make you go to

7:44

church or to take you away from church. We're just here to

7:46

fill you up with God's love.

7:48

Because life without God's love

7:50

is holy. Like

7:53

a donut. Yeah, like a donut hole. In

7:55

the middle of your heart. Yeah. You

7:58

weren't doing the melody, so I didn't click with life without. God's

8:00

love is like a donut Have

8:05

you guys grew up watching that yeah,

8:07

oh she's Here's

8:12

the thing about the donut man, he's

8:14

not a trained comedian He

8:17

shouldn't have the platform to

8:20

be platform donut man Oh

8:23

my god, if I ever

8:25

gave away my platform, I would

8:27

do it And

8:30

that is on being a sacrificial

8:32

comedian I

8:35

never seen that I never heard of it. I never seen

8:37

it in my life I don't know what

8:39

was going on with me. I wasn't watching it.

8:42

Hey, you're really Wow. You're not on

8:44

trial here It's you're kind of sweating.

8:46

Yeah nervous. It's fine. Where did you

8:48

guys have access? The

8:50

church library church library. Yeah,

8:53

we had was a poor church. I went to a poor

8:55

church We did not have a library. This is

8:57

the working man's It's

8:59

like what we're finding like really out

9:02

to prove a really certain POV In

9:05

the day she sweated out in the streets

9:08

the she She

9:11

grew up with nothing. Yeah Just

9:14

like Chris Farley David fade

9:16

Adam Sandler Tim Meadows Literally

9:25

the most famous like television comedians

9:27

of the 90s cuz they were

9:29

on SNL Now

9:32

they can have a tick tock They're

9:35

alone Okay. Wow. There's some

9:37

excess to Nellers have tick tocks. I believe

9:40

Amy Poehler's on there now I'm

9:42

just saying I don't think yeah, I still don't think

9:44

you guys get my point here No,

9:47

I get your point. I just I just

9:49

I disagree with it and I think you

9:52

ultimately disagree If

9:59

I had I

10:01

would not allow them to watch

10:04

youtubers. Oh, that's

10:06

yeah, that seems reasonable. The same with Tiktok.

10:09

I would not allow that if they were going

10:11

to watch what age? What's the age

10:13

of accountability for any age? I

10:15

don't know. I'm just saying I would

10:17

make sure that they're 18 until

10:20

I've until I've gotten them

10:22

programmed to know what true

10:24

comedy and story and narrative is. So I would

10:26

I would let them bend shows like full

10:29

house family matters. OK,

10:31

do you know what I mean? OK, so let's

10:33

do the math on this. So so say and then for

10:35

real hang on. No, let's do the math. You

10:38

have a child miraculously. You have a child.

10:40

You're going to be miraculous. No, I'm saying

10:42

miraculously. You have a child tomorrow. So 2024

10:44

plus 16. So in the

10:46

year 2040, they're 16 years old. You're

10:49

like, hey, do you want to watch real

10:51

comedy? You put on full house, which at

10:53

this point is 50 years old. Right.

10:59

That is the. So what when I

11:01

was that age, I was watching I Love Lucy

11:03

and I will have my kids watch. I love

11:05

Lucy. That's comedy.

11:08

That's true. That's storytelling. That's narrative. I'm

11:10

not going to have them sitting around

11:12

watching some YouTube or play freaking video

11:14

games. That is not comedy. That

11:16

is not how to be funny. That is not how to have a

11:18

personality. I will have them watching the Mary Taylor Moore show.

11:20

I love Lucy. Family. The

11:24

honeymooners just want them to have

11:26

your personality. Yes. Simba Willie.

11:30

That one movie where the train comes up

11:32

the screen where the

11:34

missile hits the moon and the eyeball a

11:36

trip to the moon. I'm going to move

11:38

from 19 now. Now, this is having

11:40

my personality. This is

11:43

about my children understanding narrative

11:46

and not wasting hours watching some YouTuber play

11:48

video games and because then that's going to

11:50

be their personality and they're going to think,

11:52

oh, this is funny to be like, haha,

11:54

I just farted. Haha.

11:57

I think you think that's funny. Yeah,

11:59

you like. I just you

12:02

like I cannot be funny no

12:04

matter how I try oh my god Holy

12:07

shit Even

12:10

if I'm trying to do impression of something it's not

12:12

funny It's going to be funny because I have been

12:14

trained. I can't believe our GCF takeover

12:16

ended two episodes Are

12:21

you asking me if you're done talking

12:23

or done on fire? Oh No,

12:26

I don't think we can fire you we'd have to pay

12:29

you out anyway, so You

12:32

know At

12:35

this point unfortunately I

12:39

get all worked up and I don't even know if I

12:41

really believe this I just Back

12:45

I like to push you know even

12:47

harder Conviction

12:50

I do believe it yeah, I

12:52

think I'm aligned in like short form

12:54

energy like like engendering more

12:56

long-form attention span stuff at a

12:59

young age is is better because

13:01

We is 30 something adults struggle with the

13:04

tension span shit now So how much more

13:06

so if we were like born and raised

13:08

with it yes? But

13:10

I don't so I agree on

13:12

that one point of the 19 Major

13:17

points that you made yeah, I think I

13:19

love that yeah, I got you on one and

13:21

that's all you got me on one Yeah,

13:23

yeah, that's all you need Yeah,

13:26

maybe I would put them on the donut man if

13:28

I was their father You

13:31

could do that yeah There

13:36

were some good moments in that I

13:38

did take some screen grabs I will be memeing

13:41

some of the there we go Yeah, it feels

13:43

like you would have fit in right yeah some of

13:45

the acting I did appreciate We're talking about the donut

13:47

man. I mean Caroline and I talked about this back

13:49

back during the Caroline days Okay

13:51

of the podcast. It's hard. They're hard

13:54

to remember those it's it's getting fuzzier

13:56

each episode And and as we're recording

13:58

this the last episode with

14:01

her just came out yesterday to

14:03

give people a sense of the recording schedule. What a

14:05

weird alternate reality. We've been cooking up on the side.

14:07

So there's no feedback yet for

14:11

the Alyssa Jeremy era

14:13

of the pod. And thank you for calling it

14:15

that because that's what we've been calling it. Oh my gosh, yeah, I'm

14:17

scared. What if by the time

14:19

people are watching this or listening to this,

14:21

they're like, they unsubscribe.

14:26

No, no, I said Caroline will be back

14:29

and she will be back. Oh, okay. Wait,

14:31

was that news to you that she'll be

14:33

back? No, I knew that. Okay.

14:35

But I'm just... I'm just saying

14:37

like people could

14:41

be listening. They

14:44

listened to our first episode and they're like, you know what? I'm

14:47

good until Caroline. Right,

14:49

yeah, that's possible. And you know what? That's

14:51

fine. That's fine. Hey, we

14:53

all take breaks probably from our favorite

14:56

shows or podcasts from time to time.

14:58

Whenever they

15:00

replaced Elliot Stable. Oh,

15:04

on ER. On Law and Order. Oh, on Law and Order, excuse me.

15:06

What was I to do? But you know, I

15:09

did like the new guys that came

15:11

in, but it wasn't the same. And you remember

15:13

their names. No. And

15:16

that's you guys, the people who listen

15:18

and remember their names. I

15:21

don't like that. Well, I am actually

15:23

Elliot Stable. Wait, who

15:25

played Elliot Stable? Is it Bells? Oh, it was

15:27

Maloney. Oh, excuse me. Oh,

15:29

on SVU. SVU. Oh,

15:32

you didn't say SVU. Sorry. I

15:34

just assumed if you hear Elliot Stable, you

15:37

know. I think I've seen one start to finish

15:39

episode of

15:42

Law and Order and no more. Really? And

15:44

not on purpose. Like I'm sure

15:46

I would enjoy it. And I love

15:48

Sam Watterson and Belzer and all those

15:50

guys. Now you watched the original? No,

15:53

I'm saying I've seen one episode of any of the

15:55

Law and Order shows. Which one it was. Criminal

15:58

intent. SVU. criminal

16:00

intent. There was trial by jury

16:02

for one season, I know that. The original is

16:04

pretty good too. Yeah, the mothership. I

16:07

used to watch that with my mom when I was

16:10

home sick for school. Dang, sounds

16:12

like a good memory. And that was real storytelling.

16:14

And that, I'm gonna have my kids, I'm gonna force

16:17

my kids to watch Law and Order when

16:19

they're 30 years old. I do wonder

16:21

about that question of like, how much do

16:24

you think you can realistically impart to

16:27

your children, your hypothetical children? A lot.

16:29

A lot. Okay. Because when

16:31

they love you and respect you and you give them

16:33

love, they'll do whatever you tell them. Yeah,

16:36

I'm concerned about this end of

16:38

your argument too, you programming your kids,

16:41

which was the terminology you used earlier. I'm

16:44

gonna program them. The first show

16:46

I'm gonna be introducing. Like it's an iPhone who's

16:49

setting the change. Yeah, it

16:51

is. Okay, and it is. First

16:54

thing they're gonna be watching is

16:56

the show, Hey Arnold. Okay. Which

16:58

again, by the time they're watching it, it will

17:00

be 45 years old. Doesn't matter,

17:02

it holds up. But

17:06

this is the thing I think about too, as far

17:08

as like our generation, which is not

17:10

to sound like super old man. And we do shout

17:12

out to all the Gen Z listeners out there. I

17:15

think we have like two left. Really?

17:17

There were some, there were some at some point.

17:19

We're gonna get them back. So if you're a

17:21

Gen Z listener, hop into the comments on Instagram.

17:24

Make some noise. What if they don't even use Instagram? Hold

17:26

on a second. What are they using? On Snapchat. That's

17:30

what they're doing. I think they're on Snapchat. Yeah.

17:32

And TikTok. And in the talk. Yeah. And

17:36

then identify yourself and say, Hi, I'm Gen

17:38

Z. You know, I would

17:40

love to hear from them. We'd like

17:42

to talk to them directly. But our

17:44

generation is the last where it's like,

17:46

what's on TV, flip through channels, watch

17:48

old reruns. Yeah. Now children simply

17:51

will not do that. They will search for

17:53

the thing in the search bar for

17:55

whatever they want to watch. But I watched

17:58

countless hours of I dream. Dream of Jeannie,

18:01

Happy Days, I Love Lucy, All

18:03

in the Family, Cheers, Frasier, Seinfeld,

18:06

Decker, Elmo, Eileen. They

18:08

can do that with Netflix and Hulu. Those

18:10

shows are all on there. They're

18:12

on there, but I'm saying it was quite accidental

18:15

for me. Yes, yes, yes. It was the scarcity

18:17

thing of like, I will watch this because this

18:19

is on. Oh yeah, this is on. Whereas like-

18:21

Oh, Gilligan's Island. Children now will not watch anything

18:23

just because it's on. Accidentally, that's right. They'll be

18:26

like, I'm watching this because I am choosing to

18:28

watch this. Right. There's going to be a lot

18:30

of stuff, including our beloved Mary Tyler Moore Show,

18:32

Dick Van Dyke Show, for the

18:34

case may be, unless they're like scholars

18:36

or students of the media. And this

18:39

goes for music too. Like

18:41

they just aren't going to, like

18:43

there was this Chuck Closterman essay

18:45

about this with music where he talked about

18:48

how he had some

18:50

album of theirs that's like not one of their

18:52

best albums at all, but he has memories of

18:55

listening to it over and over and over again.

18:57

And he grew to really love those songs. And

19:00

it was only because of a total lack of options. Whereas

19:03

now, if you listen to something and you're not liking it

19:05

within three minutes, you're going to be like, no, I don't

19:07

like it. What's next on Spotify? So there

19:09

will be none of that. Well,

19:11

at least you have like other people playing stuff

19:13

around you. If someone's like

19:16

put on a movie you don't like, that's

19:18

a different scenario than being in someone's car. You're

19:21

like, I love the Joshua Tree. You're listening to this.

19:23

Ultimately, the cool thing about, with

19:26

TikTok, what we saw, the

19:29

show Stranger Things, remember there was

19:31

a resurgence of Kate Bush because

19:33

they used one of her songs and then all of the

19:36

kids were like, oh yeah. And that was

19:38

kind of cool. And then Kate Bush was, her song went

19:40

to the top of the chart. See,

19:42

what we're hearing now is another

19:44

reinforcement, Alyssa's argument of like, let

19:46

the gatekeepers pick our tastes. Like

19:48

the executives of Netflix and the

19:50

people making the most popular show

19:52

in the world. You

19:54

bow down to Ted Sarandos, Lauren

19:57

Michaels. And if she can't get

19:59

the gatekeeper. working in the real

20:01

life, she's gonna be that to her kids. Yeah,

20:04

I will, I will, they

20:06

will know me as mommy slash executive.

20:09

Lord Michaels. I'm mommy

20:11

executive. Mrs. Zazlov. Mrs. Lord

20:14

Michaels. I will tell them.

20:17

Why won't Scott look up to me? And

20:19

that's all I can do. That's

20:21

all I will have. I won't have anything else to offer my kids.

20:23

I won't be able to teach them how to cook, so. True.

20:26

Wait, you don't cook? I

20:28

make breakfast. I

20:31

feel like I asked her like a question

20:33

in a trial and she evaded it. Yeah,

20:35

that was a court answer. That tone of

20:37

answer was an answer in court. Would I

20:40

be a good politician? You were under a-

20:42

I made breakfast. That's a good politician. So

20:44

like, what do you eat for lunch? Sandwiches.

20:47

And they're very good. Do

20:49

you toast them? Yeah. Okay, great. That's

20:52

cooking to a degree. You're heating something

20:54

up. I make the same thing every

20:57

single day. Which is what? Tuna? Peanut

21:00

butter and jelly? Well, sometimes.

21:03

PB and J in your thirties. No,

21:05

well, why not? Hey,

21:08

no shame. I'm just- There's a lot of protein. I'll

21:10

do some PB and J occasion. But I do a gourmet

21:12

PB and J. What makes a gourmet?

21:15

The ingredients. I

21:18

understand. I'm asking what those are.

21:22

And you are under oath. I know you're nervous and you

21:24

did swear on the Bible. So just remember that. Okay,

21:27

I'll talk you through it. A gourmet

21:29

PB and J. Is that on like

21:31

a pretzel bun or something? Well, no,

21:33

it's like a French roll, butter

21:36

it, put it in the oven.

21:39

It's toasty. Then it comes out

21:41

with the butter seeping through the-

21:43

Nice. Sourdough or whatever. And then, you

21:45

know, pretty good peanut butter. Well, it's not using French rolls.

21:47

It's not sourdough. Well, I don't know what I'm saying. Okay.

21:50

And then, peanut butter. Got a fancy peanut butter.

21:52

I think that's the asterisk attached to every other

21:54

sentence that comes out of it. Kind of a

21:56

fancy peanut butter. Justin's. Justin's.

22:01

And then you're gonna do a little

22:03

bit of cinnamon. You're gonna put some

22:05

banana on there. Okay, nice, banana. Crazins

22:07

maybe, you know, and then some

22:09

of your jam of choice and you know, and

22:11

you can get creative and apricot.

22:14

Crazins. Yeah, you

22:16

know, and then there you go.

22:20

Okay, there you go. Wow, emerald. It's

22:22

a little bit of a, it's a bit of

22:24

a. Hello emerald, you know that new PB and

22:26

J recipe you've been looking for? Dare I say,

22:28

bam. Well listen to this. He's

22:31

just bamming his brains out over the phone.

22:35

Bam, bam, bam, bam. Crazins.

22:37

Crazins. Crazins. He goes nonverbal bam

22:39

style. I think that I know

22:41

I'm not saying anything crazy and

22:44

new. It's just an elevated PB

22:46

and J, whatever. I'm

22:48

not making good, no, no. I'm busy,

22:50

I'm busy, I can't cook. Jeremy's cooking

22:52

all the time, making goulash. Yeah, I'm

22:54

making goulash. Yeah. You ever cook for

22:56

a date, Jeremy? Yeah, yeah.

22:59

That feels like a good. Yeah, that's

23:01

good. What did you cook? I

23:04

don't know, I can't think of a specific time. Then it's not

23:06

true. Hey, hey,

23:08

well, let. Hold on. Literally let him

23:10

cook. I

23:13

just remember something. I

23:16

did like, let's see, I

23:18

did salmon on the barbecue once. Wow.

23:20

For a date? That's great. On the

23:22

barbecue? Yeah, on the barbecue. On the

23:25

barbecue? Okay, salmon and out of the

23:27

goat. What was that, a first date? What

23:29

was that, a second? Were you just gonna ask if I got

23:31

laid? No, what was that, a third date? Hey, whoa. I

23:33

don't know, I don't know what that was. That was

23:36

nowhere near like a first or second or

23:38

third. I brought cookies to a first date,

23:40

but that feels radically different. Yeah. Why'd

23:43

you bring cookies to a first date? Because I had them.

23:46

It wasn't like. Where was the date? Well,

23:49

how many people

23:51

have I done this to? Wait, this is

23:53

multiple times you've done this? Well, he is

23:55

a baker. Yeah. I mean, it's

23:57

just like a lot of times I would just

23:59

have. over stock of whatever the

24:01

Bay good was. And then if

24:03

I had a date scheduled within the next two days,

24:06

I'd be like, I'll bring these to the day. And

24:08

not like a crazy amount, just like two and a

24:10

little baggy or something. Yeah. You

24:12

know, and be like- It's the classic Kevin. That's

24:15

the classic Kevin. It's the airport. You always do

24:17

that for when you take me to the airport, which is

24:19

the nicest thing. Oh, that's true. Not only is he taking

24:21

me to the airport, but he provides me a sweet treat.

24:25

Now am I taking you to the airport? I'm picking you up

24:27

from the airport. I'm picking your mom up from the airport. You

24:29

have not picked me up from the airport in question time. No,

24:33

really? It's been kind

24:35

of more picking me up, taking me. Okay.

24:38

And that's, you know what? Hey, beggars, Kevin, choose me. Well,

24:40

Kevin, I think when Alyssa takes you the next

24:43

time, she should make you a gourmet BB and

24:45

J. A BB and J? I

24:48

like to say a BB and J. Butter,

24:51

butter and jelly. Fancy-er, you know, and

24:53

you can say grace from any country

24:55

you'd like. That's right. Oh, baby. Yeah,

24:58

we must- Wait, should we tell Jeremy

25:00

about my birthday? Wait, I need to know what's going

25:02

on. Yeah, and we are gonna talk about the donut

25:04

man, the donut hole too from 1990, 34

25:06

years ago, which

25:10

for Alyssa would be right on the

25:13

money as far as like the at-home

25:15

curriculum. It's a little too current for

25:17

me. Yeah, it's a little too contemporary.

25:19

It's gotta be age. Jeremy

25:22

was out of town, Alyssa had a birthday two

25:24

days ago, and my dog

25:26

almost passed from this mortal coil,

25:28

Jeremy. What happened? Yeah, so

25:30

we had the kind of update Jeremy.

25:32

It was serious. Dexter? Yes, last

25:35

week. Is he okay right now? So yeah,

25:37

he's great. Oh, dang. He's a little

25:39

chilled out, but it was quite scary,

25:41

and there's people that listened to this

25:44

show that reached out and were

25:46

so nice about things when

25:48

I posted like little pictures on Instagram. I didn't miss

25:50

photos too. You did, yeah. Oh my God. Which I

25:52

don't follow you for, and Alyssa and I have talked,

25:54

not about you, but just generally like,

25:56

we don't keep track of who watches on Instagram. No, no,

25:58

I do. Who's looking up the stories. I'm not

26:00

always looking. I wish I did that less. I gotta stop

26:02

doing that so much. Hey look, I'm

26:04

really clued in Yeah,

26:07

it's fine if you're doing that No

26:10

shame Solution

26:16

from a pre was you moved her

26:18

arm in that motion That's

26:21

all really weird. So cut to eight days

26:23

ago as of recording this You

26:26

know, we've been experimenting with we as in

26:28

me row we have been experimenting with like,

26:31

okay Dex just had a little house training

26:33

issues. Yes talked about before on the podcast

26:36

What's gotta give and then one thing was okay.

26:38

I've been creating him or leaving him in the

26:40

bedroom But maybe the scent is too strong

26:43

in there. Let's leave him in the living

26:45

room Okay, which like he's never ever ever

26:47

ever ever had an accident here. Uh-huh Never

26:50

marked in here anything like that. So

26:52

I was like, okay I'll go out for like

26:54

an hour real short amount of time come back

26:56

I did that on like a Tuesday or something

26:59

Came back great and then did it

27:01

again on a Wednesday when I was running an errand before

27:03

my flight to New York was going On the red eye

27:05

later that night And I come back.

27:07

I saw you but you went to the

27:10

cup shop. That's right. Yeah, and I was like I'm

27:12

leaving tonight for New York. You're like farewell. Yeah,

27:14

and then I came back right after that and I

27:17

come home and there is a pack of gum Opened

27:21

Oh completely eaten except for

27:23

two sticks of gum gum

27:25

Which is 20 something sticks which

27:27

no most people who are

27:29

pet owners listening to this

27:31

know Sugar-free gum has a

27:33

chemical called xylitol in it, which

27:36

is toxic poisonous deadly Oh

27:38

my god, so like one stick could kill a

27:40

dog of his size and he was like, I'm

27:43

gonna have 20 and And

27:47

oh no, he was loving it and

27:49

so I was just like, huh, okay

27:52

Call my vet they couldn't take him.

27:54

They referred me to an emergency room that could they

27:56

were very gentle and lovely with him Made

27:59

him vomit up the gutter gum and they

28:01

were like his breath smelled amazing. That's

28:04

just funny. That's just good and funny.

28:06

They did. They didn't need to

28:09

do this and I wasn't asking for this, but

28:11

they were like some some owners like this. But

28:13

so we took pictures of the vomit just to

28:15

show you kind of his contents. And

28:18

I'm sure like there's some cuckoo pet owners are like,

28:20

I want to see the vomit. Did you get everything

28:22

out? We are all sick. Sure. That

28:24

is pet owners. You're

28:27

sick. Check yourself. I relate to that. All

28:29

of you check yourself. I relate to that

28:31

because sometimes I have this

28:33

weird OCD fear that when

28:35

I take my contact out that

28:38

it's like still in my eye. Does

28:40

that make sense? Wait, what does this have to

28:42

do with pet owners? This is the same. Listen,

28:44

what are you saying? You just saying you also

28:46

get anxious about things. That's not what this is.

28:48

This is what I'm talking about. She was looking

28:50

for her in. She was

28:53

like, OK. She's already heard this

28:55

story. She got checked out a little bit. Like, how do I

28:57

get back? I mean,

28:59

sometimes if my contact falls out, but I don't

29:01

see where it goes, like, you know, it falls.

29:03

But if I don't see it, I'm convinced it's

29:05

stuck in my eye. Oh, yeah. And you have

29:07

to prove it to yourself. So that's what I'm

29:09

saying. So I understand the vomit and the story

29:11

does make sense. Yes. And you

29:13

don't want to go home and think about it

29:15

still being in your dog's belly. You worry sick.

29:17

If you actually see the contents of the vomit,

29:20

then you can be like, well, that's a lot

29:22

of it. Yeah, sure. Of course. For some people.

29:24

But then they're like that said, we don't know

29:26

if he digested any of it, which thing could

29:28

mean he could go into like seizures and stuff.

29:31

So they're like, we want to happen. No, because

29:33

they said we want to monitor him overnight, which

29:35

means putting a little IV in

29:37

him. So they shaved his door. And he's

29:39

got a little boot on his left hand

29:42

side. I didn't even see that. I

29:44

know. Well, I mean, his hair is growing up back

29:46

pretty good now. I feel very

29:48

unobservant. It's on the other side and

29:50

he's kind of sleeping right now. So maybe we'll look

29:52

at it later. Kevin,

29:55

he's a dog. We'll go right back to sleep.

29:57

I know, but he might go. Okay, that sounds

29:59

more like my argument. Like yeah pet owners y'all

30:01

too crazy. He's a dog No,

30:04

it's more like I don't want him to snap at

30:06

you. It's not like don't don't like

30:09

my baby It's more like don't get bit in

30:11

the face So

30:15

they kept him overnight and then and then they let

30:18

me say goodbye By the way before

30:20

I left him there overnight cuz I've never done

30:22

that for anything Yeah, and he was shaky and

30:24

he's just like what's going on man. I'm like,

30:26

I'm sorry I was very

30:28

emotional. So I canceled my trip and

30:31

you didn't even go no I've

30:33

been out of it. Yeah, I have been

30:35

out of it I've been home down and I had

30:37

to give him like liver medication and stuff and then

30:39

he came home the next morning They're like he's great

30:41

and he's so cute and blah blah. So they're very

30:43

nice about it That one

30:45

that one pack of gum Did

30:48

end up costing more than my rent That's

30:52

terrible not what even chew gum,

30:54

huh? Oh, yeah, but I

30:56

haven't in the last week. I'm

30:58

scared. Yeah, don't keep that around So

31:01

but he's he's rebounding great and we've been

31:03

having some good guy time together But yes,

31:05

the thing you were only out for so

31:07

long It was a

31:09

90 minute back like imagine if it was like,

31:11

oh I'm going out with friends I'll be back

31:13

in like see the movie. Yeah, and he had

31:16

digested more it could have been so much worse

31:18

Oh, so we got lucky and then he's Dexter

31:20

and then the silver lining to this though Is

31:23

that I feel like we might

31:25

have figured out the house

31:27

training stuff Okay, cuz it's been all

31:29

quiet on the Western front. Oh, that's right. No,

31:32

you leave them in the living I leave in

31:34

the living room, but I just like take take

31:37

a mrs. Doubtfire esque eye to the

31:39

cleanliness and making sure objects And

31:45

making sure nothing's talked about that our last episode

31:47

to yeah, mrs. I know it's kind of our

31:49

common thread Mrs. Doubtfire is

31:51

the pain It's

31:54

more like a thick soup than a name

31:57

dear that's really good actually my favorite line

31:59

that's really good You actually killed that line

32:06

So that's what you miss what you're glad he's

32:08

okay, what a relief yeah cuz if baby

32:10

died I would Die

32:13

as well. I would shoot myself God

32:19

Kevin, please I'll record one

32:21

last solo pod Oh God

32:24

a pod manifest Yeah, and

32:26

then I'll put in the gunshot sound Thank

32:30

you Emma. Yeah. Okay. I love you

32:32

Emma. Love you Caroline Alyssa journey. I

32:38

Love you Dexter I'm coming I

32:41

do believe in dogs heaven

32:43

in dogs heaven. Yeah Again

32:49

you're not on trial here. I'm not trying to

32:51

make you nervous Um,

32:56

I think dogs will be in heaven with us Have you guys seen the

32:58

movie all dogs go to heaven? Of course. I've only seen the

33:00

sequel all dogs gonna have until Wait,

33:05

so this week the two movies are magnolia

33:09

Jeremy how's this for an impression? Okay, Charlie

33:14

I've no if I might have thought you just start

33:16

barking and it No, it's the

33:18

little girl the little orphan girl. The one

33:21

dog's name is Charlie and she's like Charlie Please

33:29

Yeah later, okay look at it later

33:33

But anyways, okay. Sorry. I do believe dogs

33:35

good. So you miss that you miss Alyssa's

33:37

birthday a couple days ago I know although

33:39

as this comes out today June 19th is

33:43

a Little fat

33:45

friend's birthday today. It is Garfield's

33:48

birthday Wow, I didn't

33:50

know where that was going at all.

33:52

I should have said fat furry friend.

33:54

Yeah, there's little fat And you mean

33:56

just shame someone right now. What's happening?

33:59

No Kevin did

34:01

buy me a present Jeremy. Wow. It

34:04

was awesome. It was like the coolest.

34:06

Okay, so I was supposed to have a

34:08

show the night of my birthday and then

34:10

it got canceled. And then I was sort of like, I

34:12

don't know what I'm gonna do. And I was kind of

34:14

hanging out with friends during the day. And

34:17

then I was like, Kevin, I think I might,

34:19

I don't know what I'm gonna do tonight. I

34:21

might go to the mall with my friend, Matt,

34:23

if you wanna come. And what? Really?

34:25

You had plans to go to the mall? I just thought that

34:28

would be fun. That's awesome. Yeah, I'm like

34:30

jealous. I got like sick with jealousy when you said that.

34:32

Yeah, I was like, I think that would be fun. And

34:34

I did have to make a return. And

34:36

I was like, it could be fun to go to

34:38

the mall. So the whole thing was sort of a

34:40

setup of like, I'm running an errand. No, it's fine.

34:44

It's my birthday. Yeah, no, I mean, we all knew

34:46

what we were getting into. But me and Matt, my

34:48

friend Matt, that's what we do. That's like, our dynamic

34:50

is so fun. We love to run friends. Shout out

34:52

to Matt. Sure, scenes from a mall. So

34:55

Kevin and Matt are there with me. And I'm

34:57

just like, you guys, oh, have you guys ever

34:59

been in this store? And then we're like there

35:01

and Kevin's like, and I'm just, you know, I'm

35:03

like showing them. It's just funny. And then Kevin's

35:05

like, okay, Alyssa, you can pick

35:07

out one item. Oh my God. And I

35:10

was like, Where were you? Hot topic? What?

35:13

Anthropologist. Oh wow. And I

35:15

go, what? And he goes, and then I was

35:17

like, oh my God. And I just never knew.

35:19

You bought a couch. Yeah. I

35:22

truly thought I was like, oh, like a candle or

35:25

a hat or something. Oh no, it's really going

35:28

this way. What did you buy?

35:30

What did you pick out? Oh my God. It wasn't in

35:32

the two digits. How

35:35

much was it? Oh

35:37

no, don't say how much it was. Okay. He said

35:40

that you can pick out anything. And then he said no more

35:42

than $200. I was

35:45

like, what? Kidding. Amazing. But

35:47

then she took it and then

35:49

I was like, I did find

35:52

a skirt. It was a hundred

35:54

dollars. Yes. Make it rain,

35:56

Kevin. But it was like, and I was

35:58

like checking in with. And I was like,

36:00

I don't think he's mad about

36:02

this. And it was so, I'll be

36:04

good. I think we're finding out right now, exactly. He's

36:06

mad about what? I will think about this for the

36:08

rest of my life. Because I was telling him, I-

36:11

She said that and then she was like, what did

36:13

I do on my birthday last year? And Matt, who

36:15

was with us, said, you were with me. So

36:19

when she says, I'll remember this for the rest of

36:21

my life, grain salt. It means

36:23

under a year. I knew I was with

36:25

him. I meant I didn't know what I

36:27

did that evening. Okay.

36:30

Oh, I was with him during the day. Oh, you

36:33

mean last year in the evening? Yeah, I don't know what I

36:35

was doing in the evening. Oh, nor

36:37

do I. Probably was just crying. Oh,

36:39

that can't be true. Do you always have a birthday cry? Yeah.

36:42

A BBC? At least one. Yeah. Wow.

36:45

Don't call it that. But

36:47

Jeremy, I am going to be wearing the

36:49

skirt that Kevin bought me to my birthday.

36:51

To her party. Party, do you know the

36:53

secret? Wait, is that true? I'm excited about

36:55

that. Wow, that's going to be great. It

36:57

is an iconic skirt. Yeah. There will be

36:59

a party and I'll be at the party.

37:01

Okay. So it already happened two weeks ago

37:04

when this comes out. Oh, that's

37:06

kind of weird. You and Garfield, huh? Anyways,

37:09

I thought that was I've just never had

37:12

a friend do that for me like that. It

37:14

was and then, you know, Kevin sort of sparked

37:16

Matt to buy a gift as well. Yeah, he

37:18

got guilty and he's like, do you want to

37:20

what's those pretzels? And then

37:23

she kept saying you're both my dad's.

37:25

You're my two dads. I love you

37:27

dad. Yeah. Never leave me dads. I'll

37:29

never forget. But also next year. But

37:31

also she kept saying you could have

37:34

wives tomorrow. Go get wives. I was

37:36

saying I would marry you. Wow.

37:38

I would marry either of you. Was this the

37:40

birthday cry? No, that didn't

37:43

really. I mean, I felt a little

37:45

water at dinner from you, but not

37:47

a full cry. No, I cried alone.

37:50

Yeah. But

37:52

I was saying like my dad was great

37:54

as the men demand. My dad is great

37:56

many. Yes, but my dad did not ever.

37:59

I never got to go to the like

38:01

I didn't have that classic childhood of like

38:04

daddy. Can I get this like? That

38:07

classic London childhood My

38:13

dad was not like that he didn't do

38:15

that sort of thing That

38:18

classic wheel me out of the chocolate factory.

38:20

I've had to be blueberries. I

38:22

wanted to be But

38:25

I was Charlie

38:30

I had a four grandparent No,

38:35

no, I'm not weird enough

38:37

to be Willy Wonka and Willy's scary in

38:39

a way that I'll never be scary You

38:41

don't have enough whimsy Yeah,

38:44

or in that direction that direction that

38:46

specific direction. Yeah, cuz he has a

38:48

menacing whim. It's sort of evil whimsy

38:50

That's right And

38:52

then what happened with you since yeah, oh, yeah,

38:54

what happened with you and then we're gonna get

38:56

to that donut man I went to Oregon. It

38:59

was a family trip Really

39:01

don't know how to describe it on mic I'm

39:05

recovering It was a

39:07

nice time Lots of outdoorsy things

39:09

which are listed just recently told me that she

39:12

thinks is a big part of my personality Then

39:14

I don't explore enough the big three for you

39:17

They're like what you might be looking

39:19

for. Yeah, so and a significant other

39:21

is funny hot outdoorsy. Were those No,

39:24

I never said hot No,

39:27

because we said funny Funny

39:38

kind outdoors. Yeah, I

39:41

was not thinking about looks it's but that

39:43

came in at number three, which was Yeah,

39:47

but that's what we were saying like one and

39:49

two it's like funny attractive it's funny kind Hey,

39:55

hey take it easy your honor your

39:57

honor Objection.

40:01

My God. Read

40:03

the courtroom temperature now. I'm so

40:06

sorry. I

40:09

saw a lot of nature. I went in a

40:11

cave. I saw a big waterfall. And how did

40:13

you feel? About God. Big rock. Yeah,

40:15

I was like... How did that make you feel? About

40:17

God. God of wonders beyond our galaxy. You know what

40:19

I mean? For real, Jeremy. What? How did it make

40:21

you feel? Seeing nature. She gave

40:23

you a for real, Jeremy. She did. Okay. And you

40:25

only get one of those in episodes. I know. So

40:28

you used it. This is how you're going to use it? Yeah, you

40:30

can't use it on anything else. Okay. Until

40:32

next episode, you can't say for real, Jeremy. How

40:34

many do I get next episode? You get one.

40:36

You only get one episode. Yeah. Okay. So

40:39

go ahead and say it again. For real, Jeremy. Okay.

40:42

I'm being real. It

40:44

was really nice. I liked it a

40:46

lot. Actually, it's so green in

40:49

Oregon. And it like... It actually... I

40:51

can feel it in my heart. Yes. It

40:53

feels really, really good. I believe that. And

40:55

going on hikes, like I'm like breathing deeper.

40:57

Yeah. And I got a big old stupid

40:59

smile on my face. Hell yeah. You can't

41:01

take it off. Man, it's nice. I

41:04

tell you what, that was... I believe nature is truly

41:06

the most healing thing. Kind

41:10

of outdoorsy. Hey,

41:13

are you feeling what I'm feeling here?

41:15

What's happening here? No, I'm not kind.

41:17

Alyssa, what are we doing? I'm

41:21

not kind. Oh, you're not

41:23

kind. Okay. Funny, hot. Funny,

41:26

hot, fucking me. I

41:29

don't mean as bitch. No,

41:31

I don't think you're mean. You're quite loyal and quite

41:33

kind. Yeah. And you're an

41:35

original voice of comedy. Okay, stop. You're

41:37

the one true original voice leading us

41:40

out of the darkness of the front-facing

41:42

blondes on TikTok. Oh

41:46

my lord. It was

41:48

good and it was stressful. And I'm very pleased

41:51

to be back. Yeah. And I missed

41:53

y'all. Hey. Nice to be here. I

41:55

missed you guys too. We did. It felt weird. I knew

41:57

you were going to be a little bit checked out because

41:59

when you're on a trip, you know, you're sort of just

42:01

you're on the trip. I did. I called you on your

42:03

birthday and I needed I

42:06

needed your call too. And

42:09

I couldn't catch it. And then you call me back later. I was like,

42:11

I was in the car my way to dinner or something. And I was

42:13

like, I want to answer this. Oh,

42:16

and I couldn't do it. Yeah, I'm going to

42:18

be done. Yeah. So did you ever get on

42:20

the phone? We did not. This is the first

42:22

time we are. Oh, yeah. Oh, great. OK. Yeah.

42:24

So we're back. There's a lot to recap. You

42:27

kind of platonic conversational blue balls right now.

42:29

Like, you're getting to squirt out. Yeah, I've

42:31

been backed up. Yeah. Platonic

42:33

conversation blue ball, which is kind

42:35

of awesome. Isn't it

42:38

like think about isn't really how I would

42:40

talk to Jeremy. I'm

42:43

putting on an act. Listen

42:46

right now. Listen, I be more real.

42:48

I can't stress enough how not true

42:50

that is. I

42:53

cannot stress enough how much there

42:55

is no difference between this in

42:57

private moments of conversation other than

43:00

like subject matter, I guess. I'm

43:03

glad you're underscoring this. Oh,

43:06

I've got I've got to put on

43:08

airs here. Absolutely not.

43:11

OK, so this is me. Someone someone

43:13

who went out. Yes, someone at the

43:15

birthday dinner, I described to Matt as both

43:18

the most present and the least present

43:20

person I've ever met. I think that

43:22

is a major compliment. Someone who

43:24

couldn't be more in the moment. But

43:27

also is in in a

43:29

galaxy far, far away. All at the

43:31

same time. I actually you

43:33

know what? I love that. Yeah, that's really

43:35

interesting. I think that's really something to be

43:38

said there. Oh, it really is. What

43:40

do you do? But then can be so with

43:42

you. Yeah, so true. Well, and in fact, I

43:44

think I actually I was not

43:47

planning on showing this. Oh boy. I have

43:49

footage from the not here. I'm just going

43:51

to play the audio. OK, so you don't

43:53

want any food or anything. No, are

43:55

you buying? Yeah,

43:57

OK. Are

44:00

you buying? I want food.

44:02

Should I get this? Are you buying? The

44:06

other one. Should I get this? And also should

44:08

I get this? Yeah, and I did not get

44:10

that. Oh, you didn't get that. Oh my gosh.

44:12

Do you regret it? No, no, I

44:15

love what I got. Okay. Well, how about

44:17

one year from now, how about

44:19

we go on another little trip to

44:21

the Americana? I would scream and shake

44:23

and throw up. Positive?

44:27

In a positive way. Yeah, okay, good. You would scream

44:29

and shout. I hate to admit

44:31

it, but I think gifts

44:33

is my love language. Really? One of them.

44:35

Well, I mean, of course. There's five of

44:37

them. There are five of

44:39

them. So one of them will be all five

44:41

of them. I think gifts is one of the

44:43

left-line wishes. You

44:46

know, the science backs it up.

44:49

I do agree. There's a whole book that agrees with me.

44:51

I feel very bad that it

44:53

is because it makes

44:56

me feel materialistic, greedy,

45:00

you know what I mean? But I have

45:02

to be honest with myself. When someone gives

45:04

me a gift, it

45:08

does something to me. It makes me feel very

45:10

seen. Same with words of affirmation. I

45:12

don't think you have to feel weird about that. But you know what

45:14

I mean? No, you shouldn't have to defend yourself. It seems like the

45:17

good one is quality time. Well, the surface

45:19

level read of gifts is like, oh, you

45:21

just want shit. You just want shit. Yeah,

45:23

yeah, yeah. I always feel like a horny

45:25

asshole when I'm like, I love touch. Yeah.

45:28

But like seriously. We don't have to

45:30

apologize for our gifts. For the ones

45:32

that we like. Yeah, I think so.

45:35

For our love languages, right? Yes. Why

45:37

do you think it's gifts for you then? Let's find

45:39

the source. And

45:43

consider that. Because I know,

45:46

maybe because I'm somebody that doesn't

45:49

have a ton of money and

45:51

I work really hard for my money, so

45:53

I understand the value of money. So

45:56

when somebody decides to spend some

45:58

money on me. I know. You're

46:01

like, wow, I would not do that for

46:03

you. That's amazing. No, I would. And I

46:05

know how, like, because it's hard to make

46:07

money and I work really hard for it.

46:09

Do you know what I mean? Yeah. And

46:12

so I think because, do you know what I mean? Yeah. And

46:14

so I think because of that and I, and I

46:16

don't know, maybe because I have, my

46:19

Venus is in Taurus. Don't

46:21

know what that means. Anyways, but

46:24

I don't know. I can tell you. And

46:26

maybe because I do find comfort, I do

46:28

take comfort in things. And

46:30

so Kevin buying me like a

46:33

skirt that I really like, it's

46:35

gonna make me feel very empowered

46:37

and special because I love clothes.

46:39

Like, you know what I mean? So it's like,

46:41

And we've talked about last EPP, how

46:43

much you feel from expressing

46:46

yourself through fashion. Yeah. Oh

46:48

yeah. And then Matt bought me like a candle,

46:50

which is like such a comfort for me in

46:52

my home. Like these are just things that, I

46:54

love what I paid. What are you saying? All

46:57

right, Kevin. Well, I haven't, it's

46:59

been more, but you know what I mean? Like, so maybe

47:01

it's that, I don't know. I don't know. What about you

47:03

for touch? For

47:05

touch. I

47:08

always thought it feels like, like I'm trying

47:11

to connect with people so much all the time. And I feel so

47:13

like, if I'm not on the

47:15

right page as you, I'm like very consumed

47:17

with that. I'm very worried about that. And

47:19

if someone's like grabbing my shoulder and like

47:21

looking at me, I'm like, oh my God,

47:23

everything's fine. Right. Yeah. It

47:25

calms you. And I'm like, okay, yeah, you

47:27

still like me. You wouldn't touch

47:29

me like that if you didn't like me. Right.

47:32

You know what I mean? Well, and what's yours?

47:35

What's my number one? I

47:37

don't know. I mean, in

47:39

the past, I guess I would have said things

47:41

like, like what you're

47:44

saying like, oh, quality time, cause I'm such

47:46

a substantial person. But then when I feel

47:48

the lack of any of the other four,

47:51

like I really feel it. Like

47:53

when someone's like, I mean,

47:56

I just remember like sometimes when it's like,

47:58

wait, there was no gift. And

48:00

then I feel that and then it and

48:02

then as someone that like in the past

48:04

didn't identify Is that being a

48:07

priority? I'm like sure when I'm finding out

48:09

it is kind of priority Yeah, but the

48:11

same would touch I feel pretty similarly to

48:13

you about that and is there one that

48:15

I care about So

48:17

what I don't well not as much as there Well,

48:21

cuz it's quality time touch acts of service

48:23

and then who cares words of affirmation affirmation

48:30

Hj's Hj's

48:33

yeah, any of the J's

48:35

what's your J language? Now

48:38

we're talking talking I mean

48:40

I would have said gifts is the lowest

48:42

but then yeah when I feel

48:44

like a oh Man and

48:46

a good gift can blow the doors off

48:49

and and a bad gift can make you

48:51

feel lonely. Yeah Yes,

48:54

I think yeah. Yes. I

48:57

would rather have no gift then bad

48:59

gift did bad gift Jeremy

49:04

got me very thoughtful gift last

49:06

year. It was a One

49:09

of those Amazon karaoke mics. I use it all

49:11

the time. Oh, yeah, but that's like very much

49:13

like that's me What do I love microphones? Yeah

49:16

Yeah, and that was battery power amplification

49:18

to a voice of a generation All

49:23

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50:30

back to Good Christian Fun. It's time to dive,

50:32

boy, into the topic. Oh

50:41

man, we're talking about donut man.

50:43

Please don't chew on Mike. Chew

50:46

and swallow and then speak. He's not talking to

50:48

me, I just want to make that clear. I

50:50

don't think there's a listener alive that thought I

50:53

was talking to you. Okay, great. Okay, that's great.

50:55

With the sternness of a father who

50:58

does love his kid, but is also

51:00

like, you know what? I

51:02

do want to kill you from

51:04

time to time. And

51:08

that's okay, that could be love, familiarity,

51:10

contempt, et cetera. This

51:13

is your idea, Kevin. I

51:15

know, I love you both. Thank you. Hello.

51:22

So we're talking about the donut man

51:24

today. Alyssa has never

51:26

seen it. Jeremy saw it a little bit growing

51:28

up, is that right? Yeah, when I was but

51:30

a child. When you were a butt, a

51:33

child? Wow. When

51:38

I was a child, sorry, that was weird. I was

51:40

saying it silly and that seemed to upset the both

51:42

of you. I was having fun

51:44

with my words and I guess that's too

51:46

much. You see what I mean

51:48

by most and least present at the same time? She's

51:51

like, hello, wow. Her

51:56

contributions in the second half of the

51:58

podcast. Don't admit. crooked

54:00

by nature. But somebody made that

54:02

donut to be that way. It

54:04

was specifically chosen. Okay,

54:06

so God. And so what are you

54:09

talking about? You need to put a hole in it. That's

54:11

the whole point of donuts. That's what makes donuts awesome. It's

54:13

a great way to hold. It's an amazing

54:15

way to hold and eat. Why

54:17

would you want to change that? It's not broken. So

54:19

I was checking out. Oh, so you're

54:23

more concerned with the critical look

54:26

of the functionality of the donuts.

54:28

It's not offensive words. Like,

54:34

listen, we're not born bad because I

54:36

think Alyssa does believe. Yeah, yeah,

54:38

we are born bad. Yeah, bad to

54:40

the bone, like in a cool way. So

54:43

do you think God made

54:45

us flawed? Yeah. Okay,

54:48

so you agree with the donut. You do agree

54:50

with the donut. But I think that the

54:52

flaws are what makes us perfect. How

54:55

so? I

54:58

think that all

55:01

of the things that don't even know you're

55:03

beautiful, you know, it's

55:06

like forcing a 12 year old to do a 10.

55:11

Gun point fighting

55:15

for their little life. We

55:18

are getting into like, you know,

55:20

original sin and not

55:22

even just original sin, but I think

55:25

about my own life and it's

55:27

like God knit you together in

55:29

your mother's womb. So there's

55:31

that scripture. And then there's

55:33

also scripture that's saying no one is good, not even one.

55:35

And it's like, well, then what's the frick, bro?

55:38

Then what is

55:40

going on? I

55:42

am getting mixed messaging here. You're

55:45

saying the Bible is mixed. Bible is mixed

55:47

message. I tend to agree. Yeah. So

55:50

if you're saying God knit you together in your

55:52

mother's womb, you know, and he

55:54

made you. Yeah. It's

55:57

like what to come out and not that I'm saying

55:59

so. Yeah.

58:01

Meryl Streep. What?

58:04

She hates her. I know. I know she did.

58:06

I can't stand her. I just learned this, too.

58:08

It's fascinating. But she's she's one, too. Right.

58:12

She won for the Iron Light. She. Yeah. I

58:14

think. Yeah. I think she has to.

58:16

Do you got another one? Or are you stalling? No,

58:19

I'm making Kevin Google. I have another one.

58:21

OK, what's your story? Oh, she's

58:23

the actress or actor. Actress.

58:26

We just need one more. Oh,

58:28

I know. Yeah. Francis McDermott. Francis

58:31

McDermott. OK,

58:34

let me Google. Francie

58:36

McDermott. And see if she's

58:38

one. She

58:40

has one. I think she's one. She's got

58:43

four. Yeah, I love her. What did I

58:45

pass her name up? I love her. Francie

58:47

McDermott. No, you said it perfectly. I love

58:49

her. For Nermurd Land. And

58:52

for three Nermurds over.

58:54

Yeah. Three Deirders. I

58:56

actually. I mean, you know what? I love her. And

58:59

then for Fergirr, she she won as well.

59:01

She's so good in Fergirr. Yeah,

59:04

so good it turned into a serious Fergirr. Kevin

59:06

tried to set me up thinking that I would

59:08

not know, but I'm actually a cinephile. I

59:13

guess the joke's on you that time, Kevin. I really

59:15

want to ask one more, but I'm not going to.

59:19

Viola Davis. No.

59:21

Just one. Just one. She

59:24

should have won two. Yeah, for the fences.

59:26

She won for fences. Yeah. Yeah. I thought

59:28

she was really good in. What

59:33

was that movie about math? Oh,

59:38

you're of course thinking of hidden figures.

59:40

I thought she was good. A movie

59:42

she was not in. Holy

59:52

shit. You're

59:56

probably mixing her up with Kirsten Dunst.

59:58

She lives in that movie. That's

1:00:00

probably who. Please cut this out. Emma,

1:00:04

leave it in. Double it. Alyssa

1:00:07

loved Viola Davis. Hidden figure. Good

1:00:10

God. I wonder if Viola Davis

1:00:12

would love the donut man. Talk

1:00:14

about sister sister and the cheetah

1:00:16

girl sex. Oh

1:00:22

man. I knew she wasn't in that. I was

1:00:24

doing that as a bit. Yes,

1:00:26

you were. Yes, you were. Yes,

1:00:29

you were. We can confirm that here in the

1:00:31

room. But obviously Viola Davis

1:00:34

is like an incredible actor. She should have more than one actor.

1:00:36

Better than Meryl? Yes. She

1:00:38

can nose cry. Oh

1:00:40

yeah. Which I think is huge. The nose work is

1:00:42

pretty all the time. It's just

1:00:45

like so real. Meryl Streep isn't

1:00:47

real. I think you've

1:00:49

only- She's a pog. She's a pog? Like,

1:00:52

what's the things you flipped in the 90s? No.

1:00:55

You mean a cog? A cog. Is

1:00:59

Frances McDermott a pog or a cog?

1:01:02

She's real. She's real. She's

1:01:04

real. The baby second serve is pog or cog. Pog.

1:01:08

I've got some things to say. Pog

1:01:10

or cog. Pog or cog is pretty good. It's

1:01:14

kind of awesome. I

1:01:16

cannot believe how long this donut mano for said

1:01:18

it. We're doing

1:01:20

a great job. We cut out a lot. Yeah.

1:01:23

I'm not mad. Okay. But

1:01:25

I am driving the car a little bit. Well,

1:01:27

you're keeping in the lines, Kevin. We're going off

1:01:30

the road. Trying to. Making that big honking sound

1:01:32

when you go off the freeway. Keeping

1:01:34

in the lines unlike my rental car in Ireland where

1:01:36

I did blow out two tires. You damn right you

1:01:38

did. On the highway and the mountains. Not one tire.

1:01:42

Two. And the tires were like, they're

1:01:45

always after me. Look at

1:01:47

you. So, Rob Evans,

1:01:50

what's interesting about him is that he

1:01:52

started- he started Protestant.

1:01:56

He became Catholic later on in

1:01:58

his life. True. He

1:02:00

converted to Catholicism in 06. I

1:02:02

could do that. And you could do anything. I'm

1:02:06

like, yes, dude. And that's kinda nice if you think

1:02:08

about it. No, when I was rewatching this today, all

1:02:10

I was thinking was like, what's this guy's deal? What's

1:02:12

going on? Did he write it? Is he a

1:02:15

bad man? No, he

1:02:17

did write it. No, I don't believe

1:02:19

he's a bad man. But it is funny if you

1:02:21

listen to interviews with him, he's like, we got burnt

1:02:23

by the Protestant church so many times. We

1:02:25

were part of eight churches in 10 years, going

1:02:29

around a lot. And they would always split

1:02:31

up and we always had church drama. And

1:02:34

it's funny that the answer to, there was

1:02:36

so much church dramas, so we just had

1:02:38

to go to the Catholic church. We went

1:02:40

to the Catholic church. Where there's famously no

1:02:43

drama. And he has all his reasons.

1:02:45

And he seems like a, I don't

1:02:47

know, fairly affable guy. The

1:02:49

question I had coming into this episode today is on

1:02:51

a scale of one to 10, how

1:02:54

attracted Alyssa was to the donut man. I thought

1:02:56

he was pretty hot. That's

1:02:58

a bingo bango. I suspected so much. I knew

1:03:00

you guys were gonna know that. And especially even

1:03:02

looking at later interviews with him, he's

1:03:05

giving to me a little like older

1:03:08

William Hurt. Like, I know.

1:03:11

I know, he's pretty hot. He's tall, he's

1:03:13

got overalls on. I think Caroline and I

1:03:15

talked about this one last time. He would

1:03:17

do well now. Just that way now. He

1:03:20

looks great. Walking his ass through Echo Park.

1:03:22

That's right, getting on Hillhurst, hopping into Fred

1:03:24

62. Yeah, absolutely. He

1:03:26

looks great. He's filling

1:03:28

that donut with something. So

1:03:31

this episode... What?

1:03:35

I just opted not to go with

1:03:37

a few things there. Go ahead. So

1:03:41

he did this for a little bit. He put his kids in

1:03:43

it as well. His daughter's Jin and

1:03:45

Mary and his son, Andy. Were

1:03:48

they in this episode? I don't know. Yes.

1:03:50

His son, Jesse and daughter, Sarah were. I

1:03:53

don't know which ones they are. So whoever did the best,

1:03:55

I guess. We'll see what's next then. But

1:03:58

Alyssa, you've never seen this before. What

1:04:00

was your experience watching?

1:04:02

It was a little painful to watch, I'm not gonna

1:04:04

lie. Painful in what ways? I

1:04:09

was like, happy

1:04:11

that I never was subjected to

1:04:13

this. Holy

1:04:16

shit. Okay, that's a strong

1:04:18

take, go on. And then upset

1:04:20

that I had to be subjected to it.

1:04:22

Oh my God. Wow. Okay.

1:04:26

Because, you

1:04:28

know what I mean? I didn't grow

1:04:30

up watching this kind of stuff. So,

1:04:32

I think if I would have grown up- That's shocking

1:04:35

by the way. Yeah, because this feels

1:04:37

like it would have come across your desk.

1:04:39

I feel like you did grow up watching

1:04:41

this kind of stuff. This type of thing,

1:04:43

for sure. Like a children's

1:04:45

entertainment? Yes, like a children's singing special

1:04:47

that has like lessons and messages. I'm

1:04:49

telling you, my church, it was a

1:04:51

very small, like

1:04:54

poor country church. And

1:04:56

I was the only little kid, me and my

1:04:58

sisters were the only little kids in the church. It

1:05:01

was all these like old, everybody

1:05:03

in the church was like over 80. So

1:05:06

we had no access to this kind of stuff.

1:05:09

How about like an after-school type

1:05:11

special thing? Kids singing about.

1:05:13

General entertainment. Yeah. No. I don't know,

1:05:15

water safety. But I feel

1:05:17

it- It's something like that. And how did you get

1:05:19

obsessed? Because to me, this feels like a few clicks

1:05:22

away from the Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen stuff. So,

1:05:25

like that's why my upbringing was

1:05:27

probably different than your guys's. I

1:05:29

was not, nope, not,

1:05:31

my parents weren't making me watch Veggie Tales. Like

1:05:33

I was allowed to watch whatever I wanted. I

1:05:37

was allowed to watch- Six years old, she

1:05:39

puts on delivered dire in LA. No, I

1:05:41

mean, truly. I was watching like at

1:05:44

age six, I was watching whatever

1:05:46

my dad was watching, which was

1:05:48

Desperado, Pulp Fiction. So

1:05:50

I was watching that stuff and I

1:05:52

was not exposed to this stuff. And

1:05:56

my, I'm trying to think

1:05:58

of like music. Well,

1:06:00

I got exposed to Christian music once I

1:06:02

was in high school because

1:06:04

what I went to then you went to a

1:06:06

Shania Twain concert Well,

1:06:09

no, I went to No,

1:06:12

I well, I liked Shania Twain. You know

1:06:14

what I'm talking about. Yes when I was 12 years old I had

1:06:17

never been to church camp. I was

1:06:19

on the way up there listening to a Shania

1:06:21

Twain CD, which was her album go when

1:06:30

I went

1:06:32

to this like crazy Christian camp on

1:06:35

the way back I was like I need to

1:06:37

burn this CD I can't believe I was ever

1:06:39

listening to this music Oh, no, and I got

1:06:41

I bought all of the worship CDs and

1:06:43

then I was from that moment I was

1:06:46

radicalized but it was just music Yes,

1:06:49

okay. I was not exposed to this. No, it

1:06:51

is weird for me to watch it now But

1:06:54

I did you do me and McGee did you

1:06:56

know? No, well, what

1:06:58

else am I thinking about now adventures in

1:07:00

Aussie veggie tales? Adventures.

1:07:03

No, we had we would

1:07:05

do vacation Bible school, but like we weren't watching

1:07:07

any of this stuff Yeah, I mean

1:07:10

this stuff was predominantly served up by a

1:07:12

parental figure. I think I was watching weird

1:07:15

I was watching weird stuff like there was

1:07:17

this one VHS that we had

1:07:19

in our church youth group And

1:07:21

it was like this very weird cartoon,

1:07:25

but it was like very realistic

1:07:28

of like The

1:07:31

prodigal son like it was like a Bible story about

1:07:33

like the prodigal son Oh, yeah, just like a

1:07:35

retelling of the story. Yes, but it was very

1:07:37

like realistic. What was that other story very realistic?

1:07:39

I'm curious because in the memory it's very It

1:07:43

was scary. We gotta track this down. What what

1:07:45

was the other story where the one guy? Nobody

1:07:48

stopped to help that guy the good Samaritan.

1:07:50

Yes The good Samaritan I'm

1:07:54

glad you're hosting this Christian There's

1:07:57

a guy It

1:08:00

needed help. It's also known famously in

1:08:02

secular culture. But this is what... No,

1:08:04

but this is... So this kind of

1:08:06

stuff... Shut

1:08:08

up. This kind of stuff

1:08:11

like escapes me. Yeah. So

1:08:13

you... But all to say... But I was just watching with

1:08:15

fresh eyes. You did not like this is what you're saying.

1:08:17

It kind of freaked me out a little bit. Yeah.

1:08:21

I get that. But I liked some of it. Yeah.

1:08:24

You're saying a talking donut puppet that looks and

1:08:26

sounds like this freaked you out? Does

1:08:28

it make us... Holy... There's

1:08:31

something scary about this. This

1:08:33

scares me a little bit.

1:08:35

Right. Yeah. It's

1:08:38

a... Well, I would say the

1:08:40

ones that are the most unsettling is the...

1:08:45

Yeah, my dude. Definitely. That...

1:08:48

I took a screenshot of that. This

1:08:50

really scared me. Does that guy look like me? You guys

1:08:52

can be honest. I'll be

1:08:54

completely honest, Kevin. Nothing like

1:08:56

me. Okay, thank God. Absolutely nothing

1:08:58

like you. This stuff scares

1:09:01

me. That doesn't look human whatsoever. Well,

1:09:04

and you guys know I famously like... Directed

1:09:08

a children's Christian

1:09:10

church show. Nope. One

1:09:12

season and then I got fired. For what?

1:09:15

For too much DNA? Like what happened?

1:09:18

The church... So this show went out

1:09:21

to a bunch of churches for their curriculum and all of

1:09:23

the church leaders went to the people and

1:09:25

they were like, what is this? We don't want any

1:09:27

more of this. They didn't like it. And there were

1:09:29

puppets in the show? No, no.

1:09:32

Okay. But I did hire all of my crazy comedian friends

1:09:34

to act in it. It

1:09:39

was like if Eric Andre made a Christian kids

1:09:41

show. Sounds good. I guess my... We

1:09:44

had kale on it. I guess my phone

1:09:46

was on airplane mode, right, Kevin? Oh, damn.

1:09:48

I asked you to do this. I

1:09:51

don't remember that. I kind

1:09:53

of believe her, but I could also not

1:09:55

believe her. I asked Jeremy to like produce

1:09:57

it. Really? Oh, yeah. Yeah,

1:09:59

and then nothing ever happened. I

1:10:02

don't know what happened. But

1:10:05

Cam was on there eating a

1:10:07

raw egg. He was like, Jesus

1:10:09

told us in the Bible. And then he

1:10:11

would just eat her. And I was like,

1:10:13

I love that. Now, I am seeing where

1:10:15

the parents might have had the issue of

1:10:17

like, we don't want our children to watch

1:10:19

people eat raw eggs. They might get the

1:10:21

wrong lesson from that. Very

1:10:23

impressionable, imitable behavior. Anyways, but this is

1:10:26

scary stuff. You guys, how old were

1:10:28

you when you were watching this? I

1:10:30

have no clue. Oh, gosh, like pre

1:10:32

10 years old. Like five or five,

1:10:35

six, seven. I have

1:10:37

more memories of the VHS covers of Donut Man

1:10:39

than I do of the actual watching of it.

1:10:42

I have more memories of watching like Adventures

1:10:44

in Odyssey stuff, like that little animated ones

1:10:46

that we do. I was certainly

1:10:48

shown this and was like, this isn't my

1:10:51

preference. Right. It was like, I'll

1:10:53

do me and McGee. I'll do some Adventures in

1:10:55

Odyssey. That was more like Veggie Tales came along.

1:10:57

Well, obviously, Veggie Tales. This is for younger kids.

1:10:59

Yeah. It's old. It's 1990. Yeah.

1:11:03

I mean, children's programming is very interesting

1:11:05

to me. I am like, I

1:11:09

watched the show Arthur well

1:11:12

into college. I

1:11:14

mean, it was on for like 20 something years. And I

1:11:16

thought it was a great show, but it is famously a

1:11:18

show for children. Yeah. That's right. But

1:11:21

I loved watching it. If it's well made,

1:11:23

it doesn't matter. Bluey

1:11:25

is a phenomenal show. Yeah. So

1:11:28

it's interesting to watch like kids

1:11:30

programming, which is a very like,

1:11:33

you know, but then to have all of the Christian

1:11:36

propaganda. Yeah. So

1:11:39

what did you think of the music? Yeah,

1:11:41

the kind of music style. Yeah. Some

1:11:44

of the songs were good. Like the Good

1:11:46

News song. I like that one. Extra, extra,

1:11:48

read all about it. There's

1:11:50

good news. This is good.

1:11:53

Extra, extra, read all about it.

1:11:56

It's like fun. You

1:11:58

would have participated in something. I

1:12:01

feel like I'm not sure if

1:12:03

I would you

1:12:06

have been a conscientious objector I

1:12:09

know I'm just saying Stop like

1:12:11

this in secular media. I did not speak to

1:12:13

me. I remember watching Barney and being like what

1:12:15

the hell is this shit? Oh,

1:12:17

yeah, like a six year. Yeah But

1:12:20

then man that is surprising. Do we have

1:12:22

the wrong idea then about some of your

1:12:24

taste we must Huh

1:12:26

or just like kit like the whole

1:12:28

kid programming appeal didn't hit her till

1:12:31

extremely later Yeah, yes Cuz I loved

1:12:33

like Mary Kay and Ashley was one

1:12:35

thing because those girls were stars and

1:12:37

it was undeniable I didn't like just

1:12:39

watching a bunch of random ass kids

1:12:43

Try to sing there is something to

1:12:45

the energy that it's in the room

1:12:48

You know like with this specifically where it's

1:12:50

like there there isn't a star amongst these

1:12:52

kids now. They're trapped They're in fact there's

1:12:54

nepo babies amongst them as we found out

1:12:56

Yeah, and I think I picked up on

1:12:58

that early on and that's how Barney felt

1:13:02

If it was just this the whole time it

1:13:04

was just the D man yeah his D man

1:13:06

That's right and like you know even I

1:13:08

showed you there was that one girl that I showed you

1:13:10

the screen grab I got a verse was like what are

1:13:13

you like if I would have seen more of her? I

1:13:15

think I would have latched on but I was the kind

1:13:17

of kid that was really looking for a star You're really

1:13:19

looking for a good performance Did

1:13:21

you see yourself reflected at all in this young young

1:13:24

girl This

1:13:28

is my favorite part by the way what happened the

1:13:31

kids at school made fun of me They call

1:13:33

me church lady aren't you special?

1:13:35

They're pretty me. Yeah, I know

1:13:39

It's a good thing you came back

1:13:41

today because the one trick about what

1:13:43

Jesus's friends did after he rose up

1:13:45

direct Dana Carvey reference Like

1:13:48

it seems direct They

1:13:50

called me superstar She

1:13:53

just keeps naming Like

1:13:55

she called me Gilly Kind

1:13:58

of recent yeah, I'll meet our She

1:14:00

called me David F. Pumpkin. I

1:14:03

don't know, but yeah, it's weird because that...

1:14:06

I do love this style of acting, but

1:14:10

not... In this

1:14:12

format. In this format. Okay, and

1:14:14

that makes sense. But were you

1:14:16

magnetized at all to the Donut Man's performance himself?

1:14:19

Do y'all, when you watch this, trust

1:14:21

Donut Man inherently? No. I

1:14:24

thought he was a good guy. Okay,

1:14:26

Alyssa trusts him with her life.

1:14:29

Jeremy has questions and skepticism. I do. I

1:14:31

do. I don't know. Where do you stand

1:14:33

with him? The weight of being an adult. I'm like, what's this guy up to

1:14:35

with all these kids? And

1:14:37

it's one of those things where it's like, look, I

1:14:40

gotta... We gotta

1:14:42

confront this maybe in our mid-30s. At

1:14:45

this point, by the way, he is a gentleman who's like

1:14:48

probably well into his 30s or 40s at the

1:14:50

time they're shooting these. He has children that are

1:14:52

in there. So it's literally like he is a

1:14:54

parent on set. But there's a lot of like,

1:14:56

I don't know, like, the whole stuff. You

1:14:59

know, like everything kind of looks like a butthole

1:15:01

in this show. You know what I mean? Like

1:15:04

almost everything. Did you guys like Mr. Rogers? Yeah,

1:15:06

of course. Yeah, definitely. I

1:15:08

didn't. I made

1:15:10

fun of it from a young age. I

1:15:13

have problems. Like

1:15:15

how? Like I made fun of it how? Me and

1:15:18

my three were just like, Who put on your card

1:15:20

again, you idiot? This is... This

1:15:22

is... I'm not... This is

1:15:24

surprising. I'm trying to not be upset

1:15:27

in any sincere way at this opinion.

1:15:29

And it's kind of hard. Oh,

1:15:32

put on your card. Hold on a second.

1:15:34

This isn't the opinion I hold today. I

1:15:37

grew up in a lot of dysfunction. And

1:15:41

when I was seeing people be sincere

1:15:43

and earnest like that, I

1:15:46

had no other option but to make fun of it. Who

1:15:48

were you? Was this like you and your

1:15:50

sisters? Or did this come from

1:15:52

like one of your older sisters and you probably adopted

1:15:54

the tone. You were like, yeah, this does mimic. Yeah,

1:15:57

probably. Yeah. And I

1:15:59

just was... It was a hard time whenever with

1:16:01

people being, we were just like, what's this

1:16:04

guy doing? What's this freaking old guy doing?

1:16:07

It's hard for me to believe that a pure Alyssa

1:16:09

Saba would be sat in front of a television and

1:16:11

be like, oh, put on

1:16:13

your car again, you old boy. I know, isn't that

1:16:15

crazy? But what

1:16:17

I was doing as a young girl at

1:16:19

age six, I was watching

1:16:21

the show Rugrats. And

1:16:24

I was like, obsessed. And I

1:16:26

thought to me, Tommy Pickles

1:16:28

was an

1:16:30

icon. And you do a Tommy

1:16:32

Pickles, right? Angelica,

1:16:36

that's not very nicely Angelica. That's a

1:16:38

little Dexter actually. It is a little bit Dexter, yeah.

1:16:40

But that's, so to me, cause

1:16:43

whenever it was like so in your face with

1:16:46

like being good and being nice, I didn't like

1:16:48

it. But I liked like- When it

1:16:50

was virtue forward. Cause Rugrats is

1:16:52

not a moralistic- But it

1:16:54

is though. Tommy Pickles was the

1:16:56

moral compass. I'm saying it is not-

1:16:58

It has morals, but it's not

1:17:01

presenting them. Yeah, here's

1:17:03

what we learned this week and we need to be nice to

1:17:05

each other. I was able to infer that. I'm

1:17:08

not joking. I believe you,

1:17:10

but we're not disagreeing with

1:17:12

you. We're just setting

1:17:15

the context of the kind of show

1:17:17

it is. But

1:17:19

isn't that weird? Why was I so mean about this

1:17:21

kind of stuff? I'm sorry. I

1:17:24

think it was maybe your sister's. I

1:17:26

think you're right. It was your sister's

1:17:28

and a fundamental mistrust of authority and

1:17:30

maybe male authority figures. Yeah. That

1:17:32

kind of bled into everything and sort

1:17:34

of skepticism with

1:17:36

that. I just find this to

1:17:39

be really intriguing because it's like- Was it the

1:17:41

same way with like women,

1:17:45

children's entertainers or like, you think

1:17:47

of like Sherry Lewis on Lamb

1:17:49

Chop? Yeah, we were like Lamb Chop.

1:17:54

You made fun of Lamb Chop? How can you make

1:17:56

fun of Lamb Chop? What did Lamb Chop do? My

1:17:59

God. He was just chopping it up. I

1:18:02

don't know why I was like that. But

1:18:04

you've come around since, or now. I

1:18:07

think that stuff is awesome. And

1:18:09

I have so much respect for

1:18:11

the adults that do that because I could

1:18:13

never do that. And

1:18:16

I did audition. I did audition to

1:18:18

be Steve from Blue's Clues. What?

1:18:22

Have you seen John Mulaney's

1:18:24

sack lunch bunch? Have

1:18:26

you seen that? No, I'm sure she has.

1:18:28

It's contemporary. Why would she watch it? I

1:18:30

guess so. Have you watched like... But it's

1:18:32

in the style of this. Sure. Yeah, yeah,

1:18:34

yeah. But it's a male figure. You know

1:18:37

what? I like Will Forte

1:18:39

doing his pants. I

1:18:43

mean, she's wearing pants. My pants. I've

1:18:45

been wearing pants. You know what I'm talking about? No. So

1:18:49

far, all of your like, North

1:18:51

Stars and definitions of like, goodness,

1:18:53

virtue, and what true comedy is,

1:18:56

are only SNL alumni. It's

1:19:00

not real like Will Forte. Okay, but this is an

1:19:02

interesting thing to talk about. And I know I'm sorry

1:19:04

to not get into like the meat of what the

1:19:07

episode is about. I'm like, I

1:19:09

am very intrigued by this. And we, you know, and it

1:19:11

kind of, we did start the episode talking about programming

1:19:14

and what you're going to show your kids. You

1:19:17

started. That was just you. That was

1:19:19

all you. But

1:19:21

I, it's very, I don't know.

1:19:24

There's just something, it's interesting that

1:19:26

I was, even as a young

1:19:28

girl, maybe I wanted to

1:19:30

like it, but because my

1:19:34

sister was like, this is so dumb.

1:19:36

Like if I wasn't into something around

1:19:39

my sister, she would be like, oh, I don't

1:19:41

like it either. You know, like I had so

1:19:43

much influence. That's pretty common. You know, a lot

1:19:45

of my Christian music taste came from my older

1:19:47

brother, from my brother Kyle, who

1:19:49

like, he got supernatural by DC talks. I started

1:19:52

listening to it. He was in the Five-Hound Frenzy.

1:19:54

I got those CDs, you know, and

1:19:56

so there's a, there's a, and I think

1:19:58

that's, that's like a knot at all. all

1:20:00

Christian specific sensation that your

1:20:02

older siblings just totally shape your taste

1:20:04

for a little bit. It's weird that

1:20:07

I didn't like that stuff, but I

1:20:09

was still just like, I was

1:20:11

obsessed with the Bible and God

1:20:14

and... Well, the Bible was talking

1:20:16

to you like an adult, not

1:20:18

a child. Knitted in the womb, but also

1:20:20

now and is righteous, not even one. An

1:20:23

adult sort of paradigm. And you can

1:20:25

infer. Yeah, you get it, right? No.

1:20:32

You remember, we did talk about that. Like, I know,

1:20:34

I know. Kevin, give us some meat because we do

1:20:36

need to... We should get some meat. Oh,

1:20:39

I clipped this out. I said, here's my opening on

1:20:41

hinge. Hey, girl.

1:20:50

What are you doing? That's the meat. You

1:20:53

know, with the loudest children's entertainment, there's usually

1:20:56

a more cohesive or at least

1:20:58

a more focused or sharper thematic that

1:21:00

all hangs on. This goes all over. It

1:21:03

truly... Like, anything you want to talk about.

1:21:05

It's a little... Not

1:21:07

to bring up the letter stuff, but it's a little

1:21:10

ADHD. Whoa, Kevin. I did

1:21:12

feel like it was all over the place.

1:21:14

Yeah, yeah. It's a lot. And

1:21:16

there's a few moments where it's like, Mr. Donut

1:21:18

Man, Mr. Donut Repair Man's like, all right, this

1:21:20

is gonna be my time to shine. He

1:21:22

gives himself a little solo at the end where he's

1:21:24

in prison. He

1:21:29

gives himself a

1:21:32

few moments. There's also... I'm

1:21:35

looking at all the clips, because there's

1:21:37

more songs in it than I was

1:21:39

anticipating. It's jam-packed with songs. There's like

1:21:41

eight or nine... It's like a full-ass

1:21:43

musical throughout. And

1:21:46

that is the way that you could brainwash children. They

1:21:48

have a couple beats that they don't even go into.

1:21:51

Oh, yeah, they go... And you're like, all

1:21:53

right, here we go. I'm like, let's go. And it's

1:21:55

just score. I was like, is this the

1:21:58

Nintendo GoldenEye soundtrack? Yeah, it kind

1:22:00

of sounds awesome. Stand

1:22:02

out tracks include, They Had

1:22:05

to Wait, His Love Goes Around, and

1:22:07

of course, Paul in a Basket. ["Ain't

1:22:10

No Basket"] That's kind of the

1:22:12

sound I imagine when Alyssa walks

1:22:14

around the neighborhood. ["Ain't No Basket"]

1:22:16

["Ain't No Basket"] ["Ain't

1:22:19

No Basket"] I

1:22:24

don't love the look of it.

1:22:26

And most of the format, it

1:22:28

looks so weird. It's just like

1:22:30

cursory, biblical retellings of like, here's

1:22:32

Paul and Silas in jail. It's

1:22:35

weird that Saddam Hussein is up there. Well,

1:22:37

it's very important. Like, this

1:22:41

is just not, we're looking at this

1:22:43

in the room. This is not the

1:22:45

visual you want in your children's entertainment.

1:22:47

It's the small little girl,

1:22:50

a girl of color surrounded by

1:22:53

menacing-ass looking puppets. They're so scary looking.

1:22:55

Kind of staring at her. Yeah,

1:22:59

that's not what she wanted. And this just was

1:23:01

like a VHS. Yeah, it

1:23:03

was a VHS series. Where was this

1:23:06

main? Laserdisc. Where was it like, what

1:23:08

studio? Like, Colorado. I

1:23:11

guess that's important to know. I don't know.

1:23:13

You know, that is a good- Focused on

1:23:15

the family. You know, it was shot in

1:23:17

the same studio. I'm looking here in the

1:23:19

Trivio where Viola Davis shot Hidden Figures. Oh

1:23:21

boy. Yeah, he's from Pennsylvania, but I don't

1:23:23

know if it's shot there.

1:23:26

What? I'm from Pennsylvania. I know.

1:23:29

He was born in Paoli. I don't know where that is.

1:23:31

Or Paoli. P-A-O-L-I. Not

1:23:33

that it's Jermaine at all. Ha.

1:23:37

Paoli is Italian. Paoli is

1:23:39

Italian. Well,

1:24:01

let's hear him out. Yeah. It

1:24:03

might be okay for a while.

1:24:06

Then the truth will wipe away

1:24:08

your smile. There's something sad inside

1:24:11

me I cannot control. When

1:24:14

I think about it don't a hole. Chilling.

1:24:19

Something sad inside of me I cannot control.

1:24:22

The truth is going to wipe away your

1:24:24

smile. Like he's quite theological

1:24:26

even as like kind of all over the place and

1:24:28

goofy as it is. The little theology

1:24:30

that is in the lyrics is very intense.

1:24:32

Yeah. It's very

1:24:34

like oh okay. Wow

1:24:37

I guess we're talking about this in this way. And

1:24:39

hear it straight from the donut man's mouth it makes

1:24:41

him sad. Yeah I know there's

1:24:43

a little when he's just kind of. And that could

1:24:45

be the worst outcome of this whole episode. The

1:24:48

message is like the worst thing you could do is

1:24:50

make donut man sad. Yeah oh yeah

1:24:52

he's not happy. What does he say at the beginning? Let's see. Donut

1:24:55

repair machine. Isn't it

1:24:57

beautiful? It is if

1:25:00

it works. Oh

1:25:02

it'll work. It has

1:25:04

to work because you know how I

1:25:07

feel about any donuts. They

1:25:09

remind me of how sad life is when

1:25:13

we're empty without Jesus. This is

1:25:15

just like the beginnings of a super villain.

1:25:17

Yeah. I think we're

1:25:19

ready to start right now. I don't trust first.

1:25:21

I never take an empty donut. Yeah. You

1:25:24

know and I will never. I still have a whole. This

1:25:26

is not the way to get people to believe in God.

1:25:28

What do you think is the way to get people to

1:25:30

believe in God. Be

1:25:32

real. Yeah. In

1:25:40

your experience what do you actually think works

1:25:42

rather than like fear mongering or like because

1:25:44

the whole threat of this is like life

1:25:46

is really you're telling a bunch of children

1:25:49

you know this hypothetical children audience your

1:25:51

life. You think it's good. It might

1:25:53

be OK for a while as the

1:25:55

song goes but it's actually very sad and you

1:25:57

do not know how sad it

1:26:00

is. without God's love. If

1:26:03

you were in charge of children's entertainment

1:26:06

for a Christian children's, which I guess

1:26:08

you were. Which I was. I

1:26:11

guess it would be eating raw

1:26:13

eggs. So besides a guy eating

1:26:15

raw eggs and poisoning himself, how

1:26:17

else would you communicate maybe some

1:26:19

biblical themes or themes of Christ's

1:26:21

love? I would focus on- How would

1:26:24

you go about it? I would focus on- The

1:26:26

family. No, I would focus on

1:26:28

the stuff that I do think kids

1:26:31

need to hear, which

1:26:33

is being kind to one another.

1:26:37

Which they get to a little bit. Having love

1:26:39

for others and yourself. Especially

1:26:46

I have a soft spot for kids'

1:26:49

anxiety, when kids have anxiety. So

1:26:52

I would try to give

1:26:55

them tools to cope with that. I think

1:26:57

that's something that isn't talked about enough. Yeah.

1:27:01

I think kids struggle silently

1:27:04

with great fear, because it's such

1:27:07

a big emotion and they don't know what

1:27:09

to do with it. So I would

1:27:11

try to create a space where we can talk

1:27:13

about that. That's already more real than

1:27:15

what the frigging donut- You know who

1:27:17

communicated a lot of those things? Fred

1:27:20

Rogers to a little

1:27:22

audience. So true. A small girl

1:27:24

guy. And if I used to

1:27:26

get weird ass motherfucking.

1:27:30

Get the amp up. And

1:27:32

if I wanted that the opportunity to think

1:27:35

he was cool, maybe I would be a different

1:27:37

adult. If you have the opportunity

1:27:39

to think he was cool. I

1:27:42

didn't stand a chance. I saw

1:27:44

you wear outfits that this man

1:27:47

would wear. Hey, that doesn't

1:27:49

matter. As a kid, when it mattered most,

1:27:51

I thought he was an idiot. Idiot's

1:27:55

so funny, isn't it? Jackie

1:27:58

used to be that my sister, she used to be like- What

1:28:01

a creep. He's undressing. Sticking his shoes off. Like

1:28:03

it was that, you know, and I was like,

1:28:05

yeah, that's so weird. And then I would turn

1:28:07

the channel to fucking Power Ranger. Hell

1:28:10

yeah. And that's kind of a look into

1:28:12

your mind. The way it works now, the

1:28:14

synapse is firing where someone's engaging you in

1:28:16

a way that's like a little slower than

1:28:18

the norm. And I actually want to punch

1:28:20

this guy. Fred Rogers talks, which like, no,

1:28:22

I want to see a pink girl punching

1:28:24

an alien or whatever they do on Power

1:28:26

Ranger. Yes, that's that's. And

1:28:29

that's why I'm the voice of a generation.

1:28:34

And is this song the song of a generation?

1:28:37

You're not the only one who

1:28:39

says, what is this? There's

1:28:42

so much to talk about. It's a

1:28:44

good word. Also,

1:28:48

the setup for this, we should we should

1:28:50

pack it up to the setup is like maybe

1:28:52

you're not angry. You're just hungry. Yeah, it did.

1:28:55

What? This is terrible. I

1:28:58

did like this the most. Just like the

1:29:00

world. This person fights this. This is the

1:29:02

most helpful. Hates this country. Now, what

1:29:05

are we going to do about it? Maybe they're

1:29:07

getting hungry. My mommy says we get

1:29:09

cranky when we're hungry. So

1:29:11

to be clear, the it's

1:29:13

a Snickers commercial hypothesis is maybe.

1:29:17

Israel is just a little hangry. Oh,

1:29:21

my God. Israel

1:29:25

didn't get their midday snack. I

1:29:28

know, but that is no excuse

1:29:31

for this unloving behavior. Now go

1:29:33

ahead and apologize. Sorry,

1:29:36

sorry. That's better, I

1:29:38

guess. Now,

1:29:40

come on, let's ask God to help us get along.

1:29:43

Let's pray. Come on. Come on.

1:29:46

And then during prayer, he's like, wait a minute. I have

1:29:48

an idea. We should all gather around the table like

1:29:51

they did in such and such. That's sort of

1:29:53

a helpful cafeteria. The

1:29:55

U.N. Yeah. no

1:32:00

more so in this particular episode than

1:32:02

at the end when the donut man

1:32:04

says. I've got a present,

1:32:06

a Bible for each one of you. Yay!

1:32:12

They all excitedly explain. I need a

1:32:14

Bible! Yay! Yeah.

1:32:18

Yeah, that's kind of it. I'd

1:32:20

like to point out that at one point

1:32:22

he brings out like donut holes. Mm-hmm. And

1:32:25

he feeds one to the donut. Yeah,

1:32:28

it does not take. It

1:32:30

does not take, because obviously Duncan has got a

1:32:32

big old hole in the middle

1:32:34

of him later. That's cannibalism. Yeah, no,

1:32:37

it's fucked up. It doesn't take.

1:32:40

It doesn't take. It

1:32:44

doesn't take. It's horrifying to watch. Surf

1:32:47

up the meat of his own people. I mean, you

1:32:49

hate to think about some of this stuff. This

1:32:52

is like when people get into the internal logic

1:32:54

of movies like cars, where it's like, okay,

1:32:58

where's the gas coming from? How

1:33:00

do they procreate? Do they have children? You

1:33:03

know, some of the logic. I never thought that. Okay,

1:33:06

listen, I never thought that. Well then, we don't

1:33:08

have to either. Yeah, okay, nevermind. Yeah, that's a

1:33:10

steer away from us. Kind of not a valid

1:33:12

thought if she didn't also have it. She

1:33:15

actually thinks that's for idiots. Have

1:33:20

you ever seen Christine? Christine, the

1:33:22

Stephen King horror movie? No. Talk

1:33:25

to me when you've seen that. Okay. Okay.

1:33:29

We'll do. Sure. Played

1:33:32

that Duncan sound bit because it seems like

1:33:34

this episode might be over. All right, Christine.

1:33:36

Oh my goodness, it's time to go already.

1:33:39

May I should just play this at

1:33:41

parties? It's like, everyone. I'm gonna

1:33:43

wrap it up. All

1:33:47

right, and you know the way

1:33:49

this works at the end. We're

1:33:51

gonna, unless we all have any

1:33:53

stray observations or thoughts

1:33:55

about this episode of Donut Man. I

1:33:58

think we crushed it. I think. So it

1:34:00

was interesting to read the YouTube comments of

1:34:02

this episode. What are some thoughts? People

1:34:05

said wow lots of memories.

1:34:08

The donut man has played a big part

1:34:10

in my Christian walk. I

1:34:13

listened to this on cassettes as I grew up.

1:34:15

I always did all the actions, got excited when

1:34:17

I first listened to this episode, watched this episode

1:34:19

on VHS. Yesterday my two

1:34:21

children and I were dancing to

1:34:24

this all day. Wow. I

1:34:26

recalled myself as a child and marveled. Very

1:34:28

well done and thanks for sharing this. Okay.

1:34:31

These people need to get journals. Get

1:34:33

journals? I'm

1:34:36

learning today how much of a bully Alyssa

1:34:38

is. A little bit. And I think by

1:34:40

the end of these however many episodes we

1:34:43

end up doing together we're gonna know it

1:34:45

all too. Oh man.

1:34:50

And someone did say it's a Korean

1:34:53

outfit she's wearing not a Chinese outfit.

1:34:55

Good. The song

1:34:57

about saying grace was very racist like yes of

1:34:59

course. Wow. Yeah

1:35:01

so. Oh and you

1:35:03

know what? Someone said there's one small problem

1:35:06

with the whole donut metaphor. The show's telling kids

1:35:09

the filling a donut hole is equivalent to Jesus giving

1:35:11

us something that is missing in our lives. But

1:35:14

here's the thing there is no real purpose, virtue,

1:35:16

or reason of filling in the whole of a

1:35:18

donut with anything. I know. By attempting to fill

1:35:21

in the hole you've just ruined a perfectly good

1:35:23

donut. That's what I said as a guinea. So

1:35:25

to me there is no the

1:35:27

real purpose virtue of for Jesus to

1:35:29

be into my heart and why should

1:35:31

I? Why should I accept the words

1:35:34

of primate desert dwelling vagabond stage magician

1:35:36

preacher? All his teachings boiled

1:35:38

down to worship me above everything else

1:35:40

or be Dan for eternity commented

1:35:42

by at Saboboly.

1:35:48

No but that's what I said like this is weird

1:35:50

because kids that have any sort of

1:35:52

intellectual reasoning are just gonna be like well

1:35:55

a donut is cool. You're right. You're right.

1:35:57

I'm sorry and then they're just gonna be

1:35:59

checked out. Yeah. I

1:36:01

do wonder if that kept me

1:36:03

away from donuts. So describing your brain.

1:36:07

Do you all eat donuts now in your adult life?

1:36:09

Oh my God. Yeah, so many. Jeremy's a

1:36:11

big donut guy. Really? I love donuts. And

1:36:13

you eat like a whole one when you

1:36:15

have one? I go to Sidecar. Yeah. I

1:36:17

eat more than one. You're

1:36:21

talking... There's so many things you said in a

1:36:23

row where it's like you have something to prove.

1:36:26

You have your arms crossed on the couch, laying

1:36:28

back. You're like, I never had that thought. We

1:36:31

might need to switch spots. I eat more than

1:36:33

one. Yeah, you know what I mean? I put

1:36:35

a list on the fainting couch for a reason

1:36:37

over there. And Jeremy, more of like an authority

1:36:39

throne. And me and my

1:36:41

dinky, least comfortable chair. Well,

1:36:44

at least it's not the little drum you normally set

1:36:46

up. I've got my arms spread out. I've

1:36:48

got seven pillows on top of me.

1:36:50

And a little guy. One of those is Dexter.

1:36:52

Oh, yeah. He's the eighth pillow. I am on the... Yeah,

1:36:55

this is... All right, let's give it a roaster toast.

1:36:57

It's a holy toast. Thumbs up. A

1:37:00

holy roast, which is a thumbs down, sending it

1:37:02

to hell. Or maybe

1:37:04

the little hole in the middle of the donut.

1:37:10

Jeremy, we'll start with you. Okay,

1:37:12

so I grew

1:37:14

up watching this as a kid. I don't even know how I felt about it

1:37:17

as a kid. I'm not sure. I can't remember that far back. But

1:37:20

man, today was a weird watch. That was a weird one.

1:37:23

Unsettling. Yeah. All I wondered about is, has

1:37:25

this man touched kids? Has this man touched

1:37:27

kids? Has this man touched kids? It's

1:37:29

really hard to avoid that question or thought. Do you

1:37:31

think it... When do you think

1:37:34

it is avoidable? Whenever you see a

1:37:36

grown person in children's entertainment? Or

1:37:40

is it avoidable? I don't know. I don't

1:37:42

know if it's avoidable. I think it's just

1:37:44

a burden of consciousness as one gets old.

1:37:46

You just think about the possibilities and you

1:37:48

can't look at children's entertainment in a certain

1:37:50

way. Oh, man. Or maybe

1:37:52

that's just me. Is it the current climate too

1:37:54

of the Nickelodeon dock or something? I must be

1:37:56

that. It's pretty loud in my ear. It's

1:38:00

obviously a good idea to always be skeptical, but

1:38:03

man, it just bums me. Yeah,

1:38:05

that's the vibes I was thinking about today.

1:38:07

But you know, because people said the same

1:38:09

thing about Fred Rogers for years. Yeah, actually.

1:38:12

Yeah, they did. What? What?

1:38:15

We'll get back to it. No, but he did get. No.

1:38:18

Oh. Letter toast. Letter toast.

1:38:22

Did he kill a guy? Was

1:38:24

he Marilyn Manson secretly? What

1:38:27

I dislike about the Donut Man the

1:38:30

most is the ADHD that's all over

1:38:32

the place. It's so unfocused. It's so

1:38:34

crazy. The set ups to the songs.

1:38:36

I'm like, what? They make no

1:38:38

sense to launch into. Hey, it's

1:38:40

a roast for me, guys. It's a holy roast. It's

1:38:42

a roast from Jeremy. We turn it to Alyssa. You

1:38:46

already know what my

1:38:48

answer is. And I'm thinking

1:38:50

about it. I'm like, oh, if I would have grown up with this, would

1:38:52

I have liked it? Because that is the

1:38:54

thing, the case with a lot of Christian music. And,

1:38:59

but yeah, I found, I was checked

1:39:01

out the, within the

1:39:03

first. The second, sorry. Because

1:39:07

like I said, I was just,

1:39:09

I could not get behind this. I was like, you

1:39:11

guys are wrong. Donuts are amazing. I'll never

1:39:14

think otherwise. And I can't get on board with

1:39:16

this metaphor. If they had chosen a different

1:39:18

food, would have made all the difference. Okay,

1:39:21

what would be a better, but

1:39:24

similar sort of, if

1:39:26

it was like life without God's love is like,

1:39:28

Melting ice cream. Melting

1:39:32

ice cream. See, I added it immediately.

1:39:34

So you have to pray for a

1:39:36

colder climate. What do you mean it's

1:39:38

like melting ice cream? Tell us. Well, of

1:39:41

course the ice cream is good at first,

1:39:43

but it's not always gonna be good. You

1:39:45

really have to nurture it and you have

1:39:47

to keep praying and do your spiritual walk,

1:39:49

keeping it in the freezer. Oh

1:39:52

no, I better start praying all the

1:39:54

time nonstop or I'm gonna die. Yeah.

1:39:57

Well, we can't actually afford a freezer. So this feels

1:39:59

like a little. classes to me. That's

1:40:02

okay. There are freezers at the YMCA

1:40:04

that you can use. So you think

1:40:06

I, a little kid, should just be going

1:40:08

to the YMCA and say, knock, knock, hi,

1:40:11

can I use your freezer? Absolutely.

1:40:13

For my Christ scream. Pretty

1:40:20

good, huh? Pretty good. Pretty

1:40:23

good. Pretty good, huh? And I came up with that

1:40:25

in one, two seconds. I'm

1:40:29

going to say like a salad without the dressing. Well,

1:40:32

no, because you've got, you woke Dexter up.

1:40:34

He's like, what is this crap? So

1:40:38

it's the ice cream man. I'm an

1:40:40

inch from death and I hate this. I'm

1:40:42

kidding. I'm kidding. He's licking his lid. It's

1:40:44

okay. We can joke about it now. He's

1:40:46

thinking about gum. He's being a little, he's

1:40:49

like, I got

1:40:51

to chase that high again one day. I'm

1:40:54

sure he dreams of it. He had the best hour.

1:40:56

Was it good? Huh? Do

1:40:58

you think he was tasty? I mean, if he ate 26, it

1:41:00

probably tasted good to him. I think when

1:41:02

he got hooked up to that IV too,

1:41:05

he was like, whoa, crazy. It probably felt

1:41:07

great. Yeah, he was probably riding that for

1:41:09

a few days. You

1:41:11

know, I am partial.

1:41:15

I'm soft to the donut man.

1:41:17

I'm not rock hard for him. I guess that's what

1:41:19

I'm saying. You're a little limp. Cause

1:41:23

you know, I like puppets and silly stuff.

1:41:25

You liked those puppets, but I did not

1:41:27

like those puppets as well. I was going

1:41:29

to say, like I, it sort of betrayed,

1:41:31

like it is. Everyone's like, Oh, I love

1:41:34

the muppets. Like, you know, we've defined like

1:41:36

Disney adults, Harry Potter adults. There

1:41:39

might be a thing as muppet adults. Yeah. It

1:41:42

is that onion headline is like, I understand the

1:41:44

muppets on a deeper level than you. Gay

1:41:47

keeping the muppets, the muckets. Yeah.

1:41:50

Another show I didn't watch. Folded

1:41:55

arms. Where the fuck? She's smoking

1:41:57

a cigarette. I didn't think she'd be so hard.

1:41:59

hard to please. All

1:42:04

of a sudden I have arm tattoos. Not

1:42:07

a permit. I

1:42:09

got a roasted as well. Roasted. You kind

1:42:12

of misled it. He kind of misled it

1:42:14

a little bit. He just kind of rose

1:42:16

it. You know, and maybe we're saying farewell

1:42:18

to this donut man. So Caroline, if you're

1:42:21

listening to these episodes, this

1:42:23

is the message we send to you. We

1:42:26

don't have to do the donut man anymore. You

1:42:28

don't have to show your kid the donut man.

1:42:30

You do not. Dovna me Caroline with what your

1:42:32

kids gonna be watching. Please. Yeah,

1:42:34

let's a will program your kid. Yeah,

1:42:39

that's a fine word. It's what they

1:42:41

use when they talk about the programming at

1:42:44

the new Bev. If you want Elmo Dexter

1:42:46

Seinfeld Garth of Kramer Costanza Ely

1:42:48

to be the most present at

1:42:50

least present child in the world.

1:42:54

Anti-list is harm. And

1:42:57

if you want him to be a

1:42:59

jack-off King go to Kevin D. Porter

1:43:02

uncle, Kevin D. What the

1:43:04

hell? If you want to enjoy nature

1:43:06

mid mid

1:43:09

Jeremy mid enjoys

1:43:11

nature. Oh, I thought you're saying

1:43:14

he's mid. Yeah, no or nature's mid. Wait, you

1:43:16

put this whole thing on me that this is

1:43:18

important to me and now you're saying that it's

1:43:21

mid to you. I can't tell you saying your

1:43:23

level of interest is mid. Oh, I

1:43:25

thought it is by your theory. So

1:43:28

you're calling your own theory mid. I don't know. We

1:43:31

got to wrap this episode up. This is

1:43:33

our first two episodes. Crap

1:43:37

next one will be shorter. I think

1:43:39

now we'll figure out and we got

1:43:41

so many in front of us. It's

1:43:45

gonna be great else. What do

1:43:48

I have anything? Yes. Maybe

1:43:51

go get pizza and come back. Oh,

1:43:53

yeah, could be fun. Can we kind of do

1:43:56

run club tonight? Oh, can't

1:43:58

run on pizza. I

1:44:00

don't know. And I might be, I'm going through a different

1:44:02

era right now too. Interesting. But yeah,

1:44:04

it's a mess. No carbs. Well,

1:44:06

it's a summer bikini body. He's on the action style. Well,

1:44:09

I'm wearing the shortest shorts. It probably looks like I'm

1:44:11

wearing underwear right now. Cause I did go on a

1:44:13

run right before we recorded. I've seen your yards like

1:44:16

three times. That can't be true. I know they're so

1:44:18

secure in there. You're doing a run, two

1:44:20

runs? Yeah, but I just did a baby run

1:44:22

today. And the next

1:44:25

one would be a, she's yawning while I answer

1:44:27

the question. No. No,

1:44:31

I wasn't. All right. On

1:44:34

other podcasts, we might promote ourselves or plug

1:44:36

our projects. We don't do that. We lift them

1:44:38

up to the Lord, including last grade thing. We

1:44:40

experienced in secular culture that we watch red, listened

1:44:43

to, probably watched.

1:44:50

And we'll start per usual

1:44:52

now with Jeremy. Hey, you can lift

1:44:54

me up at Jeremy Peele's and on all this

1:44:57

stuff. Check it out. This

1:45:00

song reminds me, you know this stuff. I

1:45:04

want to lift up, and Kevin, you're

1:45:06

going to love this one. Cause I know you love it already,

1:45:09

but I watched the most recent Teenage

1:45:11

Mutant Ninja Turtles movie. Oh

1:45:14

yeah. Dude, really

1:45:16

good. I was stunned. Really,

1:45:19

really good. It's really good. Mutant

1:45:21

Mayhem, that's what it's called, right?

1:45:23

Starring a former guest of the show,

1:45:25

Iowa Debris. Wow, amazing. Yeah,

1:45:28

that's true. As April O'Neil. That's right.

1:45:30

Dang, that movie was so good. The

1:45:32

music was awesome. The animation was so

1:45:35

cool. So pretty. They like nailed

1:45:37

the essence. They

1:45:39

made them teens. They're actual

1:45:41

teenagers, not just like, I want

1:45:44

pizza, man. Isn't it crazy?

1:45:46

Like there's so many reboots, of course. There's so

1:45:48

many redoing of IP, et cetera. It's

1:45:51

shocking when you see it done so

1:45:53

obviously well and easy looking. Oh yeah.

1:45:56

Like, yeah, it should have been this the whole time.

1:45:58

Why don't all. All the relaunches

1:46:00

and... Yeah, I'm with you.

1:46:02

I'm with you, bro. I thought it was great.

1:46:05

I'm glad you liked it. Recommend big time. Hell

1:46:07

yeah. It's on Prime right now. Yeah, people can

1:46:09

stream it, or you can go to your local

1:46:11

video store and rent it. So true. And the

1:46:13

bit rate is going to be even better. Okay,

1:46:15

that's enough of that. Especially if you get the

1:46:17

4K UHD and the players... Hey, you turn off

1:46:19

your motion smoother and make sure it's off. And if not...

1:46:21

Okay, come over to your house and I'll fix it for you. Literally,

1:46:24

if you're in the LA area and you don't

1:46:27

know how to turn your motion smoothing off, I

1:46:29

will come to your house. And that's a threat.

1:46:31

And I will come to your house and I

1:46:33

will turn it off for you. And you don't

1:46:35

want it because the tone is threat. And the

1:46:37

whole time he's there, he will judge you and

1:46:39

make you feel very bad about this. And

1:46:41

you... And I make you feel bad. He'll leave and

1:46:43

you'll be like, was that all right? Does

1:46:46

Kevin hate my freaking guts? Are

1:46:49

we good? I forgot that I'm actually... I'm talking

1:46:51

to a former client of mine, but I did

1:46:53

this for... Oh, this happened? Yeah. You know who

1:46:55

I did it the last time for? It was

1:46:57

Andrew Mashon, who I

1:47:00

hung out with him at his place.

1:47:03

And he didn't know how to turn it off. And we were actually

1:47:05

stumped for a little bit, but we figured it out. And

1:47:07

it looks so much better. And

1:47:09

we love problem solving, don't

1:47:12

we folks? Anyway, teenage mutant ninja turtles.

1:47:14

Kevin knows how it's called. All

1:47:17

right, we turn it to Alyssa. You

1:47:20

invite me at Alyssa underscore

1:47:22

stable. I

1:47:24

want to lift up... 1993

1:47:28

Liz Fair, Exile and Guyville. Oh, let's go.

1:47:30

Come on now. Such a good album. It

1:47:33

is so good. I've been listening

1:47:35

to it a lot for

1:47:37

some reason. I'm in

1:47:39

a Liz Fair mood. I

1:47:43

like her follow up too. People seem to only

1:47:45

talk about this one, but I like the follow

1:47:48

up. I just... And okay,

1:47:50

oh, and the other thing is, and I

1:47:52

haven't done this yet, but you

1:47:54

know whenever like hipsters are like, oh,

1:47:57

it sounds better on vinyl. Hipsters, we still

1:47:59

say hipsters. No, this is very good story.

1:48:02

This, my friend recently

1:48:04

posted on her Instagram story.

1:48:08

The she was playing it on a cassette and

1:48:10

I was like, holy shit. That

1:48:12

sounds incredible on it. It sounds different

1:48:14

on a cassette. So I'm trying

1:48:16

to get my hands on a cassette player.

1:48:19

Yeah. Yeah. To listen to it on

1:48:21

cassette. I have a cassette player. OK, I

1:48:23

do want to walk into somebody's home

1:48:26

and see like a glorious cassette set up.

1:48:28

I think I'd like to see that

1:48:30

because that's because hearing it like she posted

1:48:32

a clip, you know what I mean? And I was like,

1:48:35

oh, I was like, that literally sounds like a different song.

1:48:38

So anyway, we might go. You're in the market.

1:48:40

Go see her live. Liz

1:48:42

Fair. Yeah. As a as a

1:48:44

family. Me and my

1:48:46

friend. Oh, oh yeah. Kevin, you're actually not

1:48:48

invited on this one, I think. That's OK.

1:48:51

Hey, fair is fair. Well,

1:48:53

I mean, wow. Anyways, that's my.

1:48:57

You really had nothing else to say about that. That's an answer. You

1:49:01

can lift me off a Kevin T. Porter everywhere.

1:49:04

Stone Only fans. Not

1:49:07

posted much these days. I haven't not in a

1:49:09

lot, but I will. I will. I promise. What

1:49:12

do I want to lift up? You know what I want to lift up? A

1:49:16

teeny tiny gentle little movie. Oh, no, it's

1:49:18

going to be huge. No, it's

1:49:20

not. And in fact, it's Petite.

1:49:23

It's Petite Mamam is the

1:49:25

name of the movie. And it's

1:49:27

the movie by a director named Celine

1:49:30

Siama, who's this French director. And the

1:49:32

movie here, here's my biggest selling point

1:49:34

on it. It's so short. It's an

1:49:37

hour and 16 minutes. Oh,

1:49:39

that's great. We love that teeny tiny short. And it's exactly

1:49:41

as long as it needs to be. I

1:49:43

found it so moving. It was unbelievable. Wow.

1:49:45

I recommend everyone watch it and know very

1:49:47

little about it. But it's about a girl

1:49:49

and her mother. That's all I'll say about

1:49:51

it. And it was, whoo, whoo,

1:49:54

it got me right where I live. It was very

1:49:56

well, you're going to come out came out two years

1:49:58

ago. I mean, you're not gonna

1:50:00

watch it. I'll watch it in

1:50:02

10 years. It came out in 1979. Okay,

1:50:05

I'll watch it. Okay. I'll watch it

1:50:07

when it's vintage. You can lift this up

1:50:09

at Christian Fun Pod everywhere, patreon.com/good Christian fun

1:50:11

for more good Christian fun. And

1:50:13

leave us a review on Apple podcasts.

1:50:17

A listen Jeremy. I

1:50:20

mean. Oh my

1:50:22

goodness, it's time to go already.

1:50:25

And there's nothing left to say except

1:50:28

for except

1:50:31

for. Except

1:50:34

for. Let

1:50:41

us toast. Okay.

1:50:44

I love you, Emma. We love

1:50:46

you, Caroline. Amen. And

1:50:48

then let's go out with that, you

1:50:50

know, classic banger. Life

1:50:54

without God's love is

1:50:56

like a donut. I hope. What?

1:50:59

Yeah. She's

1:51:02

falling asleep tonight. All

1:51:07

right, we'll see you next week. Goodbye. Bye. It

1:51:10

might be okay for a while. Then

1:51:14

the truth will wipe away your

1:51:16

smile. There's something sad inside me

1:51:19

I cannot control. That

1:51:22

was a hate gum podcast.