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You're listening to an Airwave

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Media Podcast. Hello,

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enlightened, lightfast, lighthearted,

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lightbulbs. This

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is Good Job Brain, your weekly quiz show

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and offbeat trivia podcast. Today's show is

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268. And

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of course, I'm your humble

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host, Karen, and we are

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your cacophony of quiz, crunchy,

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kooky cohorts. I'm

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Colin. And I'm Chris. Oh,

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we continued the alliteration. It all works

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well whenever she has the, uh, the

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cut sound. Oh yes,

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Karen, Colin, and Chris. I

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just realized that now. I

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was looking at my notes.

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Uh, I think this is from episode 68.

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Remember I was like really

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into bad kids jokes. Yeah.

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That one website. Yes. I

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think they rebranded as kids, right? Jokes used

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to be bad kids jokes and it's not,

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they're not necessarily bad. They're just kids jokes

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where it's kind of doesn't make sense. Yeah.

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I felt something. I think I shared with you

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all in the show before, but I

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started reading them and I lost it. I'm

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sure so. Right. Uh, before

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we head into the quiz. Okay. Please.

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What did the doctor say to the platypus? What?

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Sir, you are quite a pickle.

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I was expecting maybe a bad like

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bill joke or something like mangled. You

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know what I mean? Like, like, like the

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kid maybe understood the bill, but no, that's

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even better. Even better. Why

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was the cows dress wet? Because

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she washed her bluebies one hour ago. Like

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there is something there that was like...

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It comes off her back. Yeah. The

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utter milking clouds. Yeah. We

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still say chicken because there was one

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joke that was like, what did the

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man say to the

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chicken when it went to the restaurant? It was

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like, what? Sorry, sir. We don't

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serve seeds here. Only chicken. What

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stuck in our household was it

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was something like, oh, what do you do

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if the spider climbs into your bed, into

2:35

your blanket or something? Oh, do farts.

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Do farts. Do farts. That's

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right. Do farts, all caps. Yeah. I

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did a fart. Do farts.

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All right. Let's

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jump into our first general trivia segment.

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Pop quiz, hot shot. Here

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I have some random Trivial

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Pursuit cards. You guys have

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your barnyard buzzers buzz in

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with the right answer. Here we go.

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We have silver screen.

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Okay. From a

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time long ago in Trivial

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Pursuit genus four. Let's

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do silver screen first. Get

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it out of the way. All right.

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Blue edge. What were the boys in

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where the boys are? What

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were the boys? What were

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the boys in where the boys are?

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I'm now blown away here because I

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just, I've never seen the film, but

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I assume they were boys. Sorry.

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Sorry. Where, where

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were the boys? Oh, I'm sorry. Totally,

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totally changes. Oh, God. Okay.

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Where the boys are. Okay. All right.

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Just a general geographical area.

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Just a general. All

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right. All right. All right. All

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right. Colin. Florida.

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It is Florida. Woo. Wow.

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It is way in the back of my

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brain. somewhere yeah okay okay here

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we go I think you'll get this one

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what 1960 movie chronicled

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the adventures of four college

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girls on Easter break yeah

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one more time what

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1960 movie chronicled the

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adventures of four college

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girls on Easter break

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1960 I'm sure we've

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heard of this movie but I 100% sure you sure

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okay okay okay okay because

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it is where the boys are

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okay so mad at myself

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of course screen

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cards you're only like one question

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yeah okay all right okay okay

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well all right now run notice

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we should backing one of

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our core beliefs here

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right all right here we go yellow

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wedge which star of where

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the boys are quit acting and

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wet where nuns are oh oh

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I have no idea I don't

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have a guess I don't worry

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heart okay Laura did not

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did not have that one all right

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pews wedge what color

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were Superman's boots as worn

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by Christopher Reeves ooh Chris

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I believe they were red they

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were red they were red red cape

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blue suit red boots green

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wedge who sang the title song

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to where the boys are

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all right 1960 girls

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having fun oh gosh

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go for it Peggy

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Lee I have no good guess calling

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Connie Francis I

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was gonna

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turn the camera to reveal a massive

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where the giant like the Boys

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are shrine here and I'm by

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the cast Yeah,

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all right last question on the silver

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screen card who played Bert

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Gordon Eddie Felsons manager in

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the hustler Not where

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the boys are you see Bert Gordon

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or Bert Gordon Bert? Well

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the hustler that was Paul Newman

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and Jackie Gleason, right If so,

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because it was color money was

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like a spiritual. Yes. It was the

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sequel, right? Yeah, right. No, sorry. So right

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Paul Newman was being managed. So Jackie Gleason

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would have been the manager It

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says here George C. Scott. Oh All

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right next card genus

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for People

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in places blue edge what

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New England state made whistling

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underwater illegal after much debate

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Oh Is

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that even possible? These

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questions are so dumb these silly

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Okay, New England State somewhere somewhere

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on the Connecticut

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no, it is Vermont.

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No, man. They landlocked. They

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have they still have like late I

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thought it was maybe in the ocean. Why would

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you whistle underwater? Why would you whistle? Why

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would you care if someone else whistled on

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the water? Yeah Yeah.

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Yeah. All right pink

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wedge arts and entertainment. What was

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the first prime time network TV

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series to show bare bottoms? First

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prime time network TV series to show

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their bottoms call it. I mean, I'm

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not gonna look at the answer yet.

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Okay Yeah, maybe we can read. Okay.

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Sure. I think it's like babies. Yeah

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Yeah, you know like I love Lucy shows

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like Ricky Jr's but or something like that

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I'm going on the assumption they're talking about a

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doll bare bottoms. And

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I think it might be a lot later than

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we think like into the 80s.

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Like I think it could be like a

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sexy alien or like well I

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mean don't remember there was like the maybe

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you don't there was like a big deal

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about like Dennis Franz's butt on NYPD blue.

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Oh yeah. You think that

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could be it? I'm saying it could be.

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I'm saying it could be like if

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Dennis Franz's butt is the barrier

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breaker. Yeah I

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remember that and I remember sort of

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the hullabaloo about that and if we

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were at trivia having nothing else I

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would say we need to write that

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down because if it's not it we're gonna be

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kicking our stuff. But the idea

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of it being a kid's butt is very

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intriguing right? Like a baby in particular I

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mean. NYPD blue was such a I

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mean I was too young for

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that show but so let's be

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clear it's a prime time TV

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series right? So it's not

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like it's very it's very down to like a

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series which to me is like that's not like

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the news that's not a

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special that's not a series.

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Okay here we go. All

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right. NYPD blue.

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Hey all right

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all right. Good reasoning

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yellow wedge. Who greeted Sonny

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Bono's election to Congress by

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saying quote politicians are one

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step below used car salesman.

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Ouch. Who

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greeted. Yeah

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that's what I was gonna say.

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Purple wedge. How many shipboard

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watches per day does the

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US Navy observe? How

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many? Oh okay right

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like third watch fourth. Yeah

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rule of numbers. Yeah exactly.

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Go with three. Times two

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it's six. Oh

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all right. Okay,

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that's the yes the rarely observed corollary

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of go with three times two Green

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wedge for sports and leisure what

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company sloganized quote? Nothing

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says lovin like something from

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the oven. Oh my god.

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Oh, I Mean

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I think it's Colin you want to go with it.

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I'm gonna guess Pillsbury. That's

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what I think it is. It is Pillsbury It is

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oh Gary

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Doughboy It's

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kind of sensual yeah That's

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nothing. I think they I think I feel like

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they came up with that and then they're like,

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okay We're gonna go with this. This is what

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we're gonna go with and then it's like five

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seconds later Was far too

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late. It was like oh What

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that you know, I just realized that kind of sounds

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like All

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right, last question on this car

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wildcard orange wedge What do most

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restaurateurs called the clear plastic shield

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between faces and a salad bar?

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Oh, yes, Chris

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the sneeze guard You know

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before the the kale craze

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of the 2000s like remember

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the the health craze of Still

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kind of in it. But before that

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one of the top uses for kale

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is to dress the salad bar. Oh

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Yeah, it's decorations. They write

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it's hardy. It's durable. Yeah

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kid On the

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floor. It's put right back there. It's fine.

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Yeah staple it to the side of the

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Monday it's good to Friday. Yeah, you know you

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take it down every day. It's fine. You just leave it

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All right, so today's episode

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I was going through my hard drive I had

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this old good job bringing folder. And

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I'm like looking through this and it was just kind of tripped down

12:03

memory lane and a lot of like a

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lot of photos of Chris. I don't know

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what you something but there was a

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photo of you adult you next

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to a very, very young

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john Cena. Do you? Oh, yeah.

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photo. Remember the whole thing. So was e3

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2004 video game trade show. I you know,

12:22

had various press

12:27

appointments and stuff like that. And one of them was

12:29

it was at the THQ booth because they made the

12:31

WWE games and they were like, Oh, do you want

12:33

to talk to john Cena and then another

12:36

interview that I had that day was Stacy

12:38

Heebler. And the thing is, John

12:40

Cena, yeah, and john Cena, he

12:42

had not won the WWE championship

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yet. I mean, he was a

12:47

mid card guy, like mid tier

12:49

wrestler that he was at

12:52

e3 talking to me. I loved

12:56

him. He was so he was so talented. And

12:58

this is when he would freestyle

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rap in the ring. And so

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I had him do a freestyle

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rap about old video games. And

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then we took a photograph

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and and that was it. And I was

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on my way. And that was that was the time that I met john Cena

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and I had him do a freestyle freestyle

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rap about video games. I'll

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play it for you right now. Here it is. Do you have it? Oh,

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yeah, I got it. Let's

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all listen to it. Here we go. This

13:24

is john cedar every ball in the red.

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You want the retro video games is cold

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with head. Yo, that's right. It's a sight

13:31

with hits from the days that he pings

13:33

and smashes. Anything else? That's a straight disaster.

13:35

Yeah, we blow it up slow like the

13:38

bootleg parts were cold. I got lice to

13:40

spend up down left, right select start. Now

13:42

I'm ready to fight like Mike Tyson's punch

13:45

out with the Honda was troubled. Yeah, that's

13:47

right. I had to fight him with the

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double glass Joe. Yo, I passed it slow.

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I'll be like a site like so let's

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go and throw me to another halle

13:56

like Hogan's Joe. I'm crazy. And the

13:58

old school style. and you straight

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back to the days of 16 color

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pallets in a maze and waves like

14:04

Mega Man that was the jam of

14:07

mighty bomb jack yeah that's right we

14:09

taking you back yeah mess with me

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and I'm a religious soul and I

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used to cheat the hell out of

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Tecmo Bowl looking at people's joystick up

14:17

an A button yeah that's right my

14:19

defense is nothing ripping proof fools like

14:21

stuffing and they face raw yo I

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used to play RBI baseball Tony Harmus

14:26

was nasty 46 homies that's right yo

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we shatty a dumb kid yo

14:30

we straight Hall of Fame and my

14:32

objective is like everybody else destroy the

14:34

mother brain Metroid is a pain in

14:36

the ass like hemorrhoids it was twisted

14:38

at the end when the chick was

14:41

a girl yo I couldn't defend the

14:43

rights of Nintendo but that's I bro

14:45

I can still throw on the crazy

14:47

tip eight games graphics was sick and

14:49

the interplay was amazing I'd be lacing

14:51

you with the new flow is a

14:53

freestyle position listen while I run like

14:56

Rad Racer first place Street Hall of

14:58

Fame name a Sean Cena the ill

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kid straight game up I do any

15:02

freaking Nintendo trick to do

15:04

the cartridge double click I blow on it

15:06

so it works cuz he used to jump

15:09

you a straight jump if you ain't

15:11

paying Nintendo John Cena with the hill

15:13

freestyle flow at Lincoln go yeah

15:17

so that happened 20 years

15:21

ago I was not expecting while the tech

15:23

mobile line was yeah I mean I just

15:25

asked him out of nowhere and that's what

15:27

he did you know so anyway yeah I

15:29

guess they weren't really bugginomics that

15:32

story yes that's right John

15:34

Cena of course his catchphrase during his

15:36

wrestling days was you can't see

15:38

me you can't see me you wave your hand so

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this week our topic is about things

15:44

that you can't see things that are

15:46

invisible things that are clear so

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this week you can't see me I'm

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doing the thing All

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right, cool. All right. And keeping with the

16:06

theme of things that are invisible or difficult

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to see, I have a word quiz for

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you. And I'm sure you kind of know

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the format of this quiz, which is I

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will give you a word and

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then I will give you another

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word. And your job is to

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find the missing word that goes

16:24

between those two things that create

16:26

two common phrases. Okay. So like

16:29

a reverse before and after one or you're getting

16:31

the before and you're getting the after and then

16:33

you're just trying to figure out the missing or

16:36

invisible word in the middle of

16:38

that. I'm not saying that I

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can't see okay, are we all

16:42

this is this passes the smell

16:44

test for being seen. Okay, great.

16:47

So again, I give you two words, you figure out the

16:49

word in the middle that ends up making a common phrase,

16:51

you know, the word

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I give you in the network at the end

16:55

and then a common phrase with that word, the

16:57

missing word at the beginning and then the second

16:59

word, you guys get it, you listeners get it.

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You've heard it all before. Here we go. Question

17:04

one, I've tried to make these as funny as possible.

17:08

Oh, buzz in once somebody

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gets it, they can buzz in

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and then but then write them

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down because there is a theme

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all of the answer words

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above and beyond. Here we go.

17:23

Word game number one. Bathtub

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worm bathtub

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worm bathtub

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worm bathtub is a

17:40

really specific word isn't it? There's

17:42

a lot of phrases that

17:44

start with bathtub and end in one

17:46

other word but there definitely is one.

17:49

Ah, is

17:52

that ring? That is

17:55

ring. Bathtub ring ring word.

17:58

Yeah, get this started off. Nice and

18:00

gross. Yep. I'm gonna write it down too.

18:03

You know, at first I thought it was gin.

18:05

I'll pick bathtub gin. Oh, bathtub gin?

18:07

Ginworm? Yep. Bathtub gin. Oh

18:09

yeah, also this word game, the QA process

18:11

of this is that there is none. So

18:14

we'll see, you know, maybe you'll come up

18:16

with an even better answer and I'll have

18:18

to, he's silly, make a retreat. So,

18:21

okay, next one. Salary

18:24

off. Salary

18:26

off. Salary.

18:29

Like you tell me your salary. I'll

18:32

tell you my salary. Salary off.

18:34

Salary off. Salary.

18:38

Salary man. One of those things where

18:40

the, the, what? Colin?

18:44

Well, cut, salary

18:46

cut, cut off. I don't know. Oh,

18:48

see, here comes the Q&A. Yeah, we

18:50

have salary cut. Yeah, it's not a

18:52

white day set phrase that you might

18:55

hear. It really isn't. Cut off is

18:57

about as good as the actual answer

18:59

that I have. Cap range. It's

19:02

cap. It's cap. I'm gonna give it you the cap.

19:04

It is cap off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cap off. As

19:06

in to stop some things. Cap it off. Yeah, yeah,

19:09

yeah. Yeah, yeah. Salary cap and cap off. All right.

19:12

Jumbo Lee. L-E-E? Lee is

19:16

spelled no L-I. Thanks for checking. Lee,

19:20

L-I. Yep. Jumbo Lee. Jumbo.

19:27

Colin again? Is

19:29

that jet? Jumbo Jet. Jumbo

19:35

Jet and Jet Lee. Yep. All

19:38

right, we move along. You're

19:41

writing those answers down. Yep.

19:43

Turn room. Turn.

19:47

Room R-O-O-M. R-O-O-M. Yep.

19:50

Not broom. Not broom.

19:52

Turn. Room. Room. That might

19:54

be a little tough. Turn. Turn

19:56

out. Back room. Room.

19:58

What's room? really

20:00

back is not back is not bad

20:03

but it's not the one I was looking for but

20:05

it's okay yeah turn Oh turn back and back room

20:07

this is not the turn key key room

20:11

yeah you know what it might have to

20:13

be I'm gonna have to give you guys

20:16

this one because this might be I mean

20:18

especially with like yeah turn back and back

20:20

room oh oh oh oh oh oh wait

20:22

you have a good one I

20:25

is it coat you know what so

20:27

yes it is except for its cloak

20:29

so I knew that you know the problem

20:31

is so I wanted cloak but then I

20:33

realized that turn coat and coat room is

20:35

like the exact same thing so

20:38

it could be coat but for

20:40

purposes of this let's put cloak

20:42

okay okay I know the theme oh

20:44

what's the theme you got it immediately now

20:47

I can reverse

20:50

engineer okay maybe you can maybe

20:53

you can okay title

20:58

off I

21:00

T T I D AL

21:02

title oh yeah

21:04

yeah Karen way

21:08

correct to wave wave off and

21:11

title wave okay apex

21:14

drone Karen

21:19

predator yeah and

21:21

predator drone this

21:23

I'm not

21:28

too fond of but red cartridge

21:32

red heartridge I know

21:37

what if there's a better answer red oh

21:39

red ink red ink

21:41

ink cartridge yeah all

21:49

right just a couple more of these horrible things

21:51

um under under

21:53

hanger under under

21:57

hanger is

22:02

I mean I feel I feel silly

22:04

saying coat again but undercoat Nope

22:09

underpants and pants hanger

22:13

Hanger the generic term for that

22:16

clothes wire under wire

22:19

wire hanger wire hangers Oh,

22:23

see that's really good way better than mine,

22:25

but doesn't go with the theme go with

22:27

clothes Karen's got the

22:29

theme so she's got one down so she

22:31

does and finally

22:34

karma twist Karma

22:37

with oh no Karen. No, I

22:39

was gonna say What's

22:43

a convenient twist it's a lovely

22:45

game for the Nintendo 64 Having

22:51

now gotten all of these that's ring cast yet

22:53

with a lot of assistance for me if so,

22:55

you know, not that one No,

22:58

no, no that that was really good. Well, what

23:00

it was really good so we

23:02

get down to with insists ring

23:05

half jet cloak wave

23:07

predator ink clothes and

23:10

Chameleon so they

23:12

turn invisible Yeah,

23:14

Karen Karen gets it. Do

23:17

you have your you you ring and Lord of the

23:19

Rings? half

23:21

of invisibility which is shared by

23:23

Greek myth and Mario

23:25

64 Wonder woman's

23:27

of course invisible jet Harry Potter utility

23:30

cloak waves are things in

23:32

real life that are invisible as in The

23:37

predator can certainly turn self invisible invisible

23:39

ink The invisible clothes worn

23:42

by the Emperor which can only be seen

23:44

by really smart people and

23:47

of course a Chameleon who

23:49

can turn himself. Let's let's just

23:51

say Invisible if

23:54

you're not if you're not looking, you know,

23:56

yeah No,

24:00

no, not that one. Oh, no, no, not that

24:02

one. Not that one. Turns

24:05

out it's really hard to make one of these quizzes

24:07

when there's a theme and

24:09

you're trying to do it off a certain

24:11

list of words and

24:13

you run yourself into a corner of like,

24:16

what can I do with cloak or

24:18

ink? It

24:21

seems so easy in the beginning. You

24:24

did a very good dad

24:26

parent maneuver of the good,

24:28

but no, guiding us.

24:30

Yeah. Yes. All

24:35

right. Y'all,

24:37

well, long time listeners may

24:40

know that even though we

24:42

are a very strong trivia

24:44

team when we're together, we're

24:46

not great with

24:49

US presidents trivia. And that's,

24:52

and this stuff is studyable, real hardcore

24:54

trivia people like, no. Oh, what's the 26th president?

24:57

Oh, it's this and it's between the years. There's

24:59

no reason not to know. It doesn't change that

25:01

often. But I want to

25:03

talk about Dwight D. Eisenhower, who

25:05

was a US president, if you

25:08

didn't know. And this is what

25:10

I do know about Dwight D.

25:12

Eisenhower. His nickname is Ike. He

25:14

planned the invasion of Normandy. He

25:17

was the president before JFK. And

25:20

thanks to Good Job Rain and you, Colin,

25:23

I learned that he set up

25:25

the US interstate highway system. Yes.

25:28

And that he was played by Robin

25:30

Williams in Lee Daniels

25:33

the butler. I

25:35

did not know that. I know. Now you

25:37

know. Okay, all right. Before he

25:40

was president Eisenhower, played

25:42

by Robin Williams, in 1943, during World

25:44

War II, he

25:46

was US army general Dwight

25:48

D. Eisenhower. Stationed in Europe

25:50

in 1943, he sent

25:53

a telegram to make an

25:55

urgent request. This request,

25:57

it wasn't for more troops. It

26:00

was for Coca-Cola.

26:04

And he didn't just request, Hey, give

26:06

me some bottles of Coke. No,

26:09

he requested 10 portable

26:12

factories, bottling

26:14

plants to be set up near

26:17

the front lines so

26:19

the troops could have access

26:21

to Coca-Cola. Don't send us

26:23

a couple of cases of

26:25

Coca-Cola. Send us the ability

26:27

to make Coca-Cola here. You

26:29

know, where's your fighting at war? So

26:31

the Coca-Cola company was on board

26:34

and they actually helped establish these

26:36

makeshift bottling plants near the front

26:38

line and, and thanks to like

26:41

heavy lobbying in Congress and

26:43

the massive blast of

26:46

advertising and marketing, Coke

26:48

was treated as a

26:50

wartime necessity and

26:52

was then allotted larger sugar

26:54

rations during the war time because

26:57

it is a wartime necessity.

26:59

Keep the boys fighting. They

27:02

had so many different and unique

27:04

ads during World War II. They

27:07

all expressed this kind of

27:09

feel good feelings of people

27:11

coming together and Americana and

27:13

soldiers and, and locals, wherever

27:15

they were, New Zealand or Alaska

27:18

and Philippines, like hanging out together,

27:20

drinking Coca-Cola. And so

27:23

six months after Eisenhower's

27:25

telegram, a Coca-Cola employee

27:27

flew to Algeria and

27:29

started drafting up construction plans.

27:32

Then Coca-Cola sent out 200 employees

27:34

out to build the portable plants,

27:36

to run the plants and to

27:38

distribute Coke to the US troops.

27:41

And don't forget these plants are set

27:43

up near the front lines. These

27:46

Coke employees, they're not soldiers. They're

27:48

like civilians and they, they had

27:50

to wear military uniforms and they actually had to have

27:52

rank. Oh my God. It's

27:54

called technical observer. So they're like civilians,

27:57

but they're like civilians working with the

27:59

military. I'm imagining how

28:01

the UN has the blue

28:03

helmet for people in war

28:05

zones. There's the Coca-Cola,

28:08

we have a little red and

28:10

white. Yeah, exactly. Helmets. Oh,

28:12

those are coke workers. Yes. And they have

28:14

this reputation. They're like, oh, it's Colonel Cokes. And they were

28:16

really popular. Yeah. Not a lot of things

28:18

that remind you of home or not

28:20

a lot of things. Not

28:23

necessarily luxury, but a nice item

28:25

to have. When you're in the

28:27

army on the front line, most of

28:29

the people that you come in contact with

28:31

are either yelling at you or shooting at

28:34

you. So if you've got someone bringing you

28:36

some nice cold, busy Coca-Cola, yeah. And

28:38

so this is when Coca-Cola cemented

28:41

their Americana status to

28:43

the world. Right.

28:46

World War II. And there's a term for

28:48

this. It's called Coca-Cola-ization. Oh, sure. Yeah.

28:53

America in the 20th century, blue

28:55

jeans, rock and roll, and Coca-Cola.

28:58

Like that just became an icon. I read

29:00

a report that in today's

29:02

money, Coca-Cola lost $87 million doing

29:05

this. Okay.

29:08

To make Coke available to US troops. Just in

29:10

terms of the materials and sending people out there

29:12

and all that. I mean, essentially they lost money.

29:14

It wasn't like they're trying to be like, oh,

29:16

let's, you know, like include for profits. This is

29:19

like, let's, let's try to supply Coke to

29:21

the troops. Did they really

29:23

lose money though? I mean, this

29:25

is like they're buying their

29:27

brand or reputation generations

29:30

for generations. And

29:32

so what does this have

29:35

anything to do with today's topic?

29:37

Well, on the subject

29:40

of clear and see-through

29:42

things, fads and products,

29:45

we have to mention our old friend,

29:47

Crystal Pessi. Something that always comes up, launched

29:49

in 1992 was a see-through Pepsi. It

29:54

was Pepsi without the coloring. And this

29:56

sparked this craze of clear stuff in

29:58

the 90s, clear electronic. I

30:00

mean, you know, more crystals, more crystals. Yes. Zima.

30:04

Zima. But 40 years before

30:06

Crystal Pepsi, Coca-Cola

30:08

had already made a

30:11

clear cola in

30:13

secret, in kind of

30:15

a secret towards the end of World

30:17

War II, you know, because of Eisenhower

30:20

and Coca-Cola's efforts. A lot of peoples

30:22

and places, you know, around the world

30:24

outside of the US had their first

30:27

taste of Coke, including the Soviets. The

30:31

Soviets. George Zhukov, the Marshal of the

30:33

Soviet Union, which is kind of like

30:35

Eisenhower's counterpart, Zhukov, the Marshal of the

30:38

Soviet Union, you know, he helped drive

30:40

Nazis out of Stalingrad, and

30:43

he became a giant Coke

30:45

fan. But

30:48

it's inconceivable. It's preposterous. And

30:50

there's no way in heck

30:52

he could be seen drinking

30:55

an American bottle of Coca-Cola.

30:57

Right. And now it's the

30:59

symbol of America, American

31:01

imperialism. Capitalism. Just

31:04

writ large. Yeah. According

31:07

to the book, titled For

31:09

God, Country, and Coca-Cola, so

31:11

Zhukov, his strong love of

31:13

Coca-Cola was made known to

31:15

a General Mark Clark, a

31:17

US commander in Austria. And

31:20

Zhukov was kind of like,

31:22

hey, can you like hook

31:24

me up with a line

31:26

to the Coca-Cola Corporation? It's like,

31:29

you know, on LinkedIn, people are

31:31

like, hey, can you share this

31:33

with me? And

31:35

he got in touch with the Coca-Cola

31:37

Corporation, and he

31:39

requested and he asked if Coca-Cola could

31:42

produce Coke from its European plants.

31:44

We already established that there are

31:46

Coca-Cola plants now kind of stationed

31:48

in Europe and North Africa. Can

31:51

you just make Coca-Cola for me, but just

31:53

make it look different? You

31:55

know, maybe like change up the bottles,

31:58

change up the cap. How about. making

32:00

the soda clear. So

32:03

it kind of looks like vodka.

32:06

So Coca-Cola worked with a chemist to

32:09

take out the caramel color. They started

32:11

production in Brussels and they put the

32:13

clear cola in straight bottles, not the

32:16

curvy. The

32:18

bottle with the waste. Straight edge.

32:23

That's the shape, the absolute vodka bottle.

32:26

The bottle caps were white

32:28

bottle caps with a big

32:31

red star. No labels. It's

32:33

a clear liquid in a

32:35

vodka-like bottle with a white

32:37

cap and a red star.

32:40

And this was colloquially known as

32:42

white coke. Even though it's clear,

32:44

the bottle cap is white. This is

32:46

white coke. And Coca-Cola

32:48

was given free passage

32:50

to Soviet areas without

32:53

any bureaucratic red tape troubles.

32:55

If you make this for us, we'll make

32:57

it easy for you to get it to

32:59

us, to the Soviets. They

33:02

produced 50 crates of

33:04

white coke. And this is all for

33:06

Zukov. This is all for him. It's not for

33:09

distribution to the troops. It's

33:11

because he was a giant fan. But

33:13

in terms of the clear cola wars,

33:16

Coca-Cola made their clear cola decades,

33:19

decades before Crystal Pepsi. And

33:21

it was because they had

33:23

to make this secret clear

33:25

cola, non-American clear cola for

33:28

a Soviet general. Wow. Yeah. Do

33:30

you know if any bottles still

33:32

exist? I tried looking. I was

33:34

like, Oh man, maybe it's on eBay. I

33:36

don't think so. I don't think it survived.

33:39

Or maybe he drank it all. You

33:42

know what? Good on him, right? If you're gonna get

33:44

your 50 cases or whatever,

33:48

you drink that stuff. The next time,

33:50

if you're traveling abroad and you're enjoying

33:52

that icy cold refreshing can of Coke,

33:55

just know that President Eisenhower played

33:57

by Robin Williams played.

34:00

a part of it. That

34:02

is really incredible. It's

34:04

so American. We

34:07

need to have frontline Coca-Cola

34:09

being made here to keep

34:12

our troops going and comfort.

34:14

I'm smiling ear to ear

34:17

here. It's

34:20

just such a hilarious American. And it worked.

34:24

It worked. I

34:26

was in the 90s and I did mention this in

34:28

a previous episode about Zima and

34:30

Hard Seltzer. Coca-Cola didn't

34:32

have a Coca-Cola clear version in the 90s.

34:35

They did have Tab Clear, which

34:37

is their subsidiary diet cola brand.

34:40

So they had Tab Clear. This is

34:42

clearly a bad idea. We're

34:45

going to do it anyway. But what

34:47

we can do with is Tab. That's

34:50

awesome. You can have this one

34:52

Tab. You guys

34:54

have betrothed partners. I

35:00

call her my wife. Your

35:02

wives are of the Taiwan background.

35:04

We do a weird thing. I

35:08

don't know if it's just our family or a lot

35:10

of Asian families. When you have a

35:12

cold and you have a cough, you make

35:14

Coke tea. You

35:17

take Coke, normal sugar Coke, not

35:19

diet Coke. You

35:21

put in a pot and you slice

35:23

up some lemons and you boil the

35:25

heck out of it. All

35:27

the carbonation is gone and you drink it

35:29

like it's tea. And it's supposed to help

35:32

you with your sore throat. Yeah.

35:35

It tastes pretty good. It

35:38

tastes like really sweet tea. Yeah.

35:41

All right. Let's take a

35:43

quick break and we'll be right

35:45

back. Everybody, shush.

35:48

William Shatner has something to say. Cat and Jethro,

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box of oddities. What

35:53

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35:56

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35:58

The show is examined. Weird things.

36:00

There are plenty of old photographs from

36:03

this time period of children out in

36:05

the streets playing in and among the

36:07

dead horse carcasses. Oh,

36:09

I miss those days. Things used

36:12

to be so much simpler. Cat

36:14

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36:16

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36:18

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38:11

things that are clear, invisible, things that

38:14

you might not notice. I'm

38:16

glad you laid the path down for me

38:18

here, Taren, with a tale that leads to

38:20

the invisible. So on January

38:22

6, 1995,

38:25

there were two armed

38:28

bank robberies in the area

38:30

of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. The

38:33

Fidelity Savings Bank in Brighton

38:36

Heights and the Mellon

38:38

Bank in Swissvale were both

38:41

robbed, armed robbers. These

38:43

robberies were carried out by the

38:45

same two men, in fact, MacArthur

38:47

Wheeler and Clifton Johnson.

38:49

They were fairly straightforward bank robberies, at

38:52

least by the standards of TV and

38:54

movie. They went in with a

38:56

gun. One of them had a gun. One of them kind

38:58

of stood in line. They made off with some money and

39:01

went on and got away. In big

39:03

sacks with a dollar sign on it.

39:07

Tied at the top? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, right.

39:09

Well, you know, we'll come back to that in

39:12

a moment, actually, of sort of the

39:14

classic burglar image. Right, right,

39:16

right, yes. The local TV

39:18

crime stopper program,

39:21

in fact, aired surveillance images from

39:23

one of the bank robberies just

39:25

a couple months later. And

39:28

within an hour of

39:30

airing the crime stopper segment footage

39:32

on the 11 o'clock evening news,

39:34

the police had received enough anonymous

39:37

tips to arrest MacArthur

39:39

Wheeler. Wow! And yes,

39:41

yes. Now, so

39:43

what's particularly notable about this robbery

39:46

and the subsequent tips leading to

39:48

the arrest is that in the

39:50

surveillance images, it is

39:52

clear that MacArthur Wheeler and

39:55

Clifton Johnson were not

39:57

making any attempt whatsoever.

40:00

to disguise themselves, okay? And

40:03

now MacArthur Wheeler, I

40:05

should note it here because every news article

40:07

that I read about this made this same

40:09

note that he was five foot six, 270

40:12

pounds. He

40:14

was fairly easy to identify when

40:16

the tips came in, especially when

40:19

he was not making any effort

40:21

to disguise himself. No ski mask,

40:23

no fake mustache, no US President

40:26

rubber mask. When

40:28

the police arrested him and

40:30

they showed Mr. Wheeler, these surveillance

40:32

camera images of him standing there,

40:35

robbing a bank, playing his day, he

40:37

was shocked. He couldn't believe it. And

40:40

it wasn't that he couldn't

40:43

believe there were cameras. It

40:46

was that he

40:48

believed he was invisible to

40:50

people. No. Yes,

40:53

yes, yes, yes, yes. And

40:56

the reason he believed he was

40:58

invisible to the cameras was

41:01

because he had applied a liberal

41:05

amount of lemon juice to

41:10

his face. Oh my God. In

41:13

the belief that splattering

41:15

your face with lemon

41:17

juice would render you

41:19

invisible to camera. Like

41:21

invisible ink. Yes, very

41:23

much. When you're a kid, you

41:25

dip a Q-tip in lemon juice and whoa, it's

41:28

invisible. Then you put it over a light

41:30

image. Yeah, oh my God. Very much like

41:32

that. Yes, that's right. I'll be,

41:34

I'm quoting here from an article in

41:36

the Pittsburgh Post Gazette. But I

41:38

wore the lemon juice. I wore the

41:41

lemon juice. Oh no. A

41:43

puzzled Wheeler told the even

41:45

more puzzled detectives. The

41:48

detective's confusion turned to

41:50

incredulity as Wheeler explained

41:53

about his would be

41:55

lemonade. See what you did

41:57

there. Oh my God. Someone

41:59

told him that if you put. lemon juice on

42:01

your face, it makes you invisible to the surveillance

42:03

cameras. And now, all right,

42:05

you might be thinking to yourself, all

42:07

right, surely, surely

42:10

this grown man in his 40s,

42:13

you know, what, whatever his challenges in

42:16

life would not think that rubbing lemon

42:18

juice on your face would make you

42:20

invisible, would would you but, but

42:23

he did. Now in his defense,

42:25

he was at first, anyway, a

42:28

little bit skeptical, he was at

42:30

least skeptical enough to, to do

42:33

it a test mode to do a little

42:35

trial, right? Like if someone tells you before

42:37

your big bank robbery, before your two big

42:39

bank robberies about this invisible juice you're

42:42

gonna use, you gotta test it out.

42:44

So MacArthur Wheeler, he at

42:47

home, he covered his face with lemon juice,

42:50

got out his Polaroid camera, took

42:52

a photo of himself and

42:56

said that he did not

42:58

see himself in the photo.

43:01

Now, it is it is

43:03

not clear what happened.

43:05

Like did his camera flash

43:07

bad film? Did he

43:09

maybe point the camera away from his

43:11

face right at the moment that he

43:13

snapped the photo? It's not clear. Nobody

43:15

knows exactly why he believed this would

43:17

work. But he did. He thought it

43:19

would work. He and his accomplice thought

43:21

it would work. They put the lemon

43:23

juice on. He said the

43:26

lemon juice was burning his face,

43:28

burning his eyes. He was having

43:30

trouble seeing. He was squinting, trying

43:32

to squint his way through this

43:34

robbery here and keeping us cool. And,

43:37

you know, after you get through the first robbery, right,

43:39

where you put the lemon juice on, you get through,

43:41

you're like, Hey, all right, that worked pretty well. It's

43:43

good to do another one here. So

43:46

long story short, I don't need to tell you

43:48

guys that lemon juice does not render you invisible

43:50

to any kind of camera, whether in

43:52

a bank or not, Mr. Wheeler was

43:55

exhibiting what we would

43:57

probably now all refer to. as

44:00

the Dunning-Kruger effect.

44:03

In fact, you may have heard

44:06

the Dunning-Kruger effect. It gets named

44:08

checked a lot on the internet,

44:10

on social media a lot. And

44:13

the basic premise behind the Dunning-Kruger

44:15

effect, I'll summarize it very briefly,

44:17

is, let me put it this

44:20

way, the shorthand version of it, and this is

44:22

not fair to it, but the shorthand version of

44:24

it is stupid people are too

44:26

stupid to realize they're stupid. Okay,

44:28

and that's a very reductive way of

44:30

looking at it. So these

44:33

robberies, as I say, took place in 1995. In

44:35

1996, Professor David Dunning of

44:41

Cornell was reading a

44:43

year-end summary of wacky

44:45

and offbeat news stories,

44:47

and it included this

44:50

tale of MacArthur Wheeler,

44:52

Clifton Johnson, and their

44:54

invisible lemon juice. This

44:57

exact story was the spark

45:00

that led to what is

45:02

now increasingly commonly

45:05

known widely as

45:07

the Dunning-Kruger effect. Yeah, so David

45:10

Dunning, he was a professor of

45:12

psychology at Cornell, Justin Kruger was

45:15

his graduate student. They basically, they

45:18

were so taken with this story of,

45:21

is it possible that someone

45:23

can be competent in many

45:25

areas of life, but have

45:27

a blind spot in a

45:29

certain area and be

45:33

so incompetent that their

45:35

incompetence masks how

45:37

incompetent they are? And

45:40

they went on to write

45:43

the paper titled, Unskilled

45:45

and Unaware of It, How

45:48

Difficulties of Recognizing One's Own

45:50

Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments.

45:52

This was published in 1999,

45:54

and very, very quickly, It

46:00

hit upon a concept that a lot of

46:02

other people didn't really have a way of

46:04

framing. And they went on

46:06

to study a lot of other examples of

46:08

this, many, many, many examples of this that

46:11

Dunning and Krueger documented

46:13

beyond just dumb criminal

46:15

stories. This affects all of

46:18

us to some extent or another. If

46:20

you read about the Dunning-Kruger effect, you'll

46:22

often see a very handy and informative

46:24

little chart, a little line chart, the

46:26

X and Y axis here, right? How

46:30

much experience do you have in a

46:32

certain domain or skill mapped

46:34

against what is your self-assessed competency in

46:36

that skill? Okay, so if you start

46:38

looking at this chart, like, you know,

46:40

they start going up, you know, pretty

46:43

much at the same angle, like the

46:45

more you learn, the more competent you

46:47

are. And for most people,

46:49

at a certain point, you will reach

46:51

a sharp edge where your self-assessed competency

46:53

is going up and up and up.

46:55

And then you reach a point and

46:57

you're like, oh crap, I

47:00

don't know as much about this as I thought I did, you

47:02

know, and this affects beginners

47:05

in a variety of fields,

47:07

music, maybe you're learning an

47:09

instrument. And at first you're

47:11

picking up really quick and you're like, oh yeah, I'm

47:13

a savant. I'm going to nail this. I'm going to

47:15

be, you know, you know, and then you're maybe three

47:17

months in and you're like, oh wow, this is way

47:19

harder. I'm not Mozart. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then the

47:21

sort of thing is like you listen to somebody playing

47:23

piano and it's like, oh yeah, I'm going to learn

47:26

how to play piano. Oh yeah, I'm pretty good at

47:28

this. But then once you

47:30

get that experience of this is

47:32

how hard it is to do

47:34

just this baseline, then

47:36

you listen to somebody who is a master at it

47:38

and you're like, oh no.

47:41

That's crazy. Right. Exactly.

47:44

All of a sudden you become aware. Whereas

47:47

in the beginning, you wouldn't have had a

47:49

sense of how much it would take to

47:51

get to that point. Right. That's

47:54

it. You don't have the

47:56

ability to understand what good

47:59

is. Exactly, exactly right.

48:01

That's right. That's right. There's there's a

48:03

quote that I've seen in a couple

48:06

places by David Dunning himself. It's very

48:08

cheeky. He said, the first rule of

48:10

the Dunning Kruger Club is you don't

48:12

know you're a member of the Dunning

48:14

Kruger Club. And

48:17

what's interesting is a lot of

48:19

people who write about this effect,

48:21

they note that there's sort of

48:23

a corresponding effect at the far

48:26

end, which is a lot of

48:28

people who are very skilled and

48:30

very experienced will underestimate

48:32

how confident they are, because they

48:35

have traveled that path, the saying,

48:37

right, you know, the wise person

48:39

knows what they don't know. And

48:42

there's there's a lot of truth in that.

48:45

For some people, they never make

48:47

that realization they they get to

48:49

that point where they should be

48:51

hitting that cliff, and it just

48:53

delayed for some people. And

48:56

that affects musicians, it affects

48:58

computer programmers, it

49:00

affects bank robbers as well.

49:03

This story of the the wacky

49:06

dumb criminals thinking that lemon juice

49:08

makes them invisible are what prompted

49:10

the birth of the Dunning Kruger

49:13

effect. We don't know what we

49:15

don't know. We're recording this the

49:17

first of first of March. And it was

49:20

just a couple days ago, I have you

49:22

guys heard of the Willy Wonka interactive? Oh,

49:26

this like magical

49:28

interactive experience that you can buy a ticket

49:30

to and it turns out it was really

49:32

crappy. That's a perfect example again, of

49:34

like, how hard could it be? Museum

49:36

of ice cream, I could do that. Yeah, have

49:42

the AI generate your art, you just get a couple

49:44

of actors and you have AI generate a script and

49:46

you hand them the script and how hard is it

49:48

to write? Yeah, to write a script.

49:51

We'll buy some props and we'll get

49:53

people to come in and as it

49:55

actually turns out, it is

49:57

quite difficult and quite time. Consuming

50:00

having great deal of experience in doing that.

50:02

It looks like worse than like a high

50:04

school prom, you know, like a high School

50:10

prom actually has like mood lighting this didn't even

50:12

have that this is like a bear set in

50:14

the middle of the afternoon Low

50:21

effort but it's complete coverage

50:23

like this was low effort

50:25

and like patchy I

50:30

mean again if you have not heard about this I

50:32

mean literally it's like they promised like sweet

50:34

treats galore for kids because again well the

50:36

AI promised that anyway the I

50:40

am not even making this up each

50:43

kid got one jelly bean And

50:46

one half of a cup of

50:48

lemonade until it until the jelly

50:50

beans ran out They

50:54

called the police Parents

50:57

that were at this thing all

51:00

the police it just mind-boggling

51:04

Got me was They

51:06

were interviewing one of the women who was

51:08

like the Oompa Loompa Like

51:11

manning the little Oompa Loompa station and

51:13

she was saying It

51:16

was like a giant red flag that like

51:18

they ordered costumes for them just

51:20

like costumes off the internet and she's like

51:22

it was all the sexy

51:24

versions of the It

51:30

wasn't even Regular

51:33

regular quote Oompa Loompa, but it

51:35

was sexy Oompa Loompa on top

51:37

of that. Yeah You

51:40

just don't know you and you can't you can't

51:42

like grade your competence unless you have a little

51:44

bit of experience But it's true and this plays

51:47

into I think imposter syndrome. Yes. I was just

51:49

gonna say I wonder if that's right Calling

51:51

you said, you know as time goes

51:53

by you become more experienced your assessment

51:56

actually goes down because you're

51:58

kind of overwhelmed by like oh

52:00

my God, and they underestimate their abilities.

52:03

Yes. That's imposter syndrome. It is, it

52:05

is, it is twinned and you know, the other

52:07

side of the coin, however you want to say

52:09

it, with imposter syndrome, that's right. Yeah. So

52:12

that's just, that's the other end of the scale of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

52:14

I like have imposter syndrome every day. You want

52:16

me to do what? I'm

52:18

in charge of this? You want

52:20

me to take care of a kid? I'll figure it

52:22

out. Yeah, we'll see. I'll figure

52:24

it out. Well, to be fair, I mean, to

52:26

be fair, being a parent is

52:29

not imposter syndrome. That

52:31

is just being an imposter. Like

52:33

we all agree on this, right? It's like you

52:35

have the kid and you're like, oh,

52:38

I have to pretend to like be a parent.

52:40

Oh, oh crud. Oh man, what do I

52:42

do? Can the baby

52:44

eat chicken nuggets? Yes,

52:46

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right,

52:49

right. I Googled

52:51

crazy things. I Googled crazy person things,

52:53

like anything. You're just like, oh God,

52:55

what is it? Then you have the

52:58

second kid and it's just like, you

53:00

know. Oh, whatever. You

53:02

put them in there, puddle the mud and you know. Give

53:05

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53:48

here I have a quiz,

53:51

a crystal clear

53:53

quiz. I'm calling it questions

53:55

to ask a crystal ball.

53:58

I got a quiz about. famous

54:01

crystals. Oh, all

54:03

right. Here we go. Get

54:05

out your barnyard buzzers. Let's buzz in.

54:08

Let's start with the definition.

54:10

What is a

54:13

crystal? Oh, sparkly

54:17

rock. No, it's like a

54:20

geological formation that lines up

54:23

with some kind of geometric

54:25

like a flat. A lattice.

54:27

A solid material where

54:30

the makeup of the material,

54:32

whether if it's ions or atoms

54:34

or molecules, they're arranged in

54:36

a lattice in a highly ordered

54:39

structure. Okay. Okay. And

54:41

it is so regular that that

54:43

is a crystalline structure.

54:45

So yes, that is what a crystal

54:48

is. Next question. Actor

54:50

and comedian Billy Crystal is

54:53

known for many things, especially

54:55

for hosting the Oscars,

54:57

a whopping nine times,

55:00

but that's not even the

55:02

record. Who holds the

55:04

record for most Oscars hosted

55:06

at 19 times?

55:12

Okay. Was

55:14

it? All right. I'm assuming it's

55:17

from a, I mean, different

55:19

era, 19 times. Colin.

55:23

Was it Bob Hope?

55:25

Yes, it is Bob Hope. Okay.

55:27

All right. Salt

55:32

is a very common example of

55:34

crystal and crystalline structures. Speaking of

55:36

salt, who turned into a

55:38

pillar of salt? They

55:41

look back at the city

55:43

of Sodom. Colin.

55:48

That was a lots wife, right?

55:51

And she didn't have a name. She did

55:53

not have a name. Really? She did not

55:55

have a name. She's lost. Oh, so it's

55:57

just lots of white. Yep. Yep. Wow.

56:00

Wow. It's funny. This

56:02

is like one of those classic. Yeah,

56:04

I don't know if it's the right term, but I'm just

56:06

calling it like the don't look back

56:08

stories. Mythology

56:10

like oh, I'm gonna walk through a tunnel,

56:13

but like you can't look back or I'm

56:15

gonna lose whatever or you're gonna die or

56:17

something. But yeah, always do it. Someone's

56:20

like, oh, I'm just gonna look a little bit. I'm just gonna look a little

56:22

bit. Yeah, now

56:24

you're a pillar of salt. Orpheus is

56:26

another story. Yeah, the don't look back stories.

56:28

Like I feel like every culture has one

56:30

of these. Yeah. All right. Next question.

56:34

Two methods, one called high

56:36

pressure, high temperature HPHT, and

56:40

the second one called chemical

56:42

vapor deposition, CBD,

56:45

are two processes to

56:47

do what? Oh,

56:50

Chris. Make diamonds.

56:53

Yes. Lab grow,

56:55

grow diamonds. High

56:58

pressure, high temperature HPHT emulates

57:00

what happens, how diamonds

57:03

are made naturally, like high pressure,

57:05

high heat. The instant pot. Yeah,

57:07

instant pot for diamonds. And

57:09

then you have the chemical vapor deposition.

57:12

Oh, this is so cool. First way

57:14

you do, you take a diamond, you

57:16

slice it. So

57:19

how to make a diamond first, you know,

57:21

the diamond. You

57:24

get a diamond, but you'll one diamond

57:26

gets makes a lot of more diamonds. And

57:29

it's funny, they call it diamond seeds.

57:31

They're called diamond seeds because you're growing

57:33

from them. And they're just little wafers,

57:35

tiny, tiny thin wafers of slice diamonds

57:37

that they have to slice with a

57:39

laser. And then they put

57:42

it on a dish, and then a

57:44

container goes over it. And then they

57:46

flood it with like carbon rich gases,

57:48

so methane. And so all the carbon

57:50

atoms will glom onto the seeds and

57:52

start literally growing. It's

57:55

so cool. It's so cool.

57:57

And then you pop them

58:00

Now, raw diamonds are

58:02

not the prettiest thing. It's not what you

58:04

think diamonds look like, but then it's like

58:06

a hunk. It's, they grew it and then

58:08

you just polish it. Oh my

58:10

gosh, it's amazing. It is.

58:13

You like watch like a time lapse video. It's like, oh,

58:15

you're a little diamond, diamond grow in there. Yeah, okay. Singer

58:19

and songwriter, Crystal Waters,

58:22

released what mathematical house music mega

58:25

hit back in 1994? That

58:31

name is in, it's in there somewhere.

58:33

Crystal Waters, math.

58:36

It's 100% pure love. Oh

58:42

my God. 100% pure love,

58:44

Crystal Waters, one of the painters of

58:47

house music. All right. Last

58:50

question. What kind

58:52

of crystal is used in

58:54

many watch and clock devices?

59:00

Oh, Colin. I believe

59:02

quartz. Yes, it is

59:05

quartz. Okay. I'm

59:07

gonna confess, this episode was

59:10

already a little bit segment heavy and that's

59:12

why I like made this into a quiz,

59:14

but really this was like my

59:16

weird way of making this kind of a

59:18

segment. This is so interesting because it's one of truly

59:21

one of those TIL, today I learned and

59:23

it blew my mind. Growing

59:25

up, I always, I see clocks. I see

59:27

clocks, watches that says quartz. No

59:30

idea what that meant. I assumed, I

59:32

mean, in my kid brain, I

59:34

assumed it was like, oh, because

59:37

it's like the outside, the glass

59:39

encloses the clock and like, crystal,

59:41

you know, like it's clear, but

59:44

really it's just glass. I thought maybe that was

59:46

like quartz. I had no idea. Quartz

59:49

crystal, a specific type of crystal

59:51

called quartz. There's something called

59:53

piezoelectricity. When stress and

59:56

pressure is applied to

59:58

quartz specifically, it... emits

1:00:00

a small charge, electrical

1:00:02

charge. Reversely,

1:00:05

when an electrical charge

1:00:07

is applied to a quartz

1:00:09

crystal, the crystal will oscillate

1:00:12

at pretty regular intervals because it's

1:00:14

a crystal. Everything's very

1:00:16

regular. Just so happens with quartz,

1:00:18

this material, it's

1:00:21

exactly one pulse per

1:00:23

second. And

1:00:25

this blue is so cool. I

1:00:29

know watches in the old days, you have

1:00:32

to wind them up. And I

1:00:34

never really realized when did that stop. And

1:00:36

there's something in history called the quartz, depending

1:00:38

on where you are, depending on what country

1:00:41

you are in history, there's something called a

1:00:43

quartz revolution or a quartz

1:00:46

crisis. It's

1:00:49

a quartz crisis when you're Switzerland.

1:00:52

This kind of came up in the

1:00:54

70s when Seiko debuted

1:00:56

a watch that was quartz

1:00:58

powered. You don't need

1:01:00

the crazy mechanical gears and winding

1:01:03

up. For all the timing, for

1:01:05

the timing mechanism. Before

1:01:08

that, Switzerland had the

1:01:10

stranglehold on pretty much timekeeping,

1:01:13

tradition and technology and mechanical

1:01:15

timekeeping industries of the entire

1:01:17

world. They were neutral, remember,

1:01:20

during World War II. So

1:01:23

they provided everybody with all the

1:01:25

sophisticated timekeeping equipment. And so they

1:01:27

really had a monopoly in the

1:01:30

watching time or his time industry

1:01:33

until quartz. It

1:01:35

never occurred to me that that would be like

1:01:37

somebody's like, you know, crisis.

1:01:40

Yeah. I mean, are

1:01:42

you ruining our stuff, man? We

1:01:44

got a good thing going. It's like

1:01:46

you screwed up with this with this

1:01:49

quartz technology. How wild is

1:01:51

that? And so Japan's just

1:01:53

like, yeah, we can make watches to

1:01:55

quartz this, quartz that quartz this and

1:01:58

pretty much at. one

1:02:00

point, it's like every time keeping device

1:02:02

in your normal household is course

1:02:04

powered. Right.

1:02:06

And that's Switzerland. Yeah.

1:02:09

So, and then Switzerland is like, well

1:02:12

fine. Yeah. We'll just start charging a

1:02:14

hundred thousand dollars for our watches. So,

1:02:16

you know, we'll have a, yeah, Tik

1:02:18

tokers, uh, do ASMR on watch cleaning.

1:02:23

Well, that is my crystal quiz. That's

1:02:27

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1:02:29

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