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1:49

my name is Adam Gidwitz. I'm

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1:54

Like telling all kinds of stories,

1:56

but I especially like telling grim

1:58

fairy tales. You

2:00

may think you know grimm fairy tales and

2:03

you may think that they are sweet and

2:05

boring. But. Listen. Those

2:08

tales you heard with acute

2:10

happy little kids' bedtime versions

2:12

of the Grim Tail the

2:14

original couldn't fairy tales aunt

2:16

like that at all? The

2:18

work and sometimes gross. And

2:21

often stay. In

2:23

other words, they're grim and I'm

2:25

about to host of virtual storytelling

2:27

session until one of the original

2:29

Grim A Grim Tales to a

2:31

bunch of kids. Do you want

2:33

to join me? Do you want

2:35

to hear a Grimm fairy tale?

2:39

I don't know if you said yes

2:41

or no because I can't hear you.

2:43

So let me help you decide. This

2:45

is the second part of a tail

2:47

called the Strange Red Sox. If you

2:49

haven't listened to part one yet, you're

2:51

gonna wanna go back. And do that now.

2:54

On a scale of

2:56

grim, grimmer, and grimaced,

2:58

the first part of

3:00

this story was grimmer,

3:02

but the second part

3:04

is grimaced. There's a

3:07

lot of death and

3:09

some scary moments. So

3:11

yeah, this is dentist.

3:13

You have been warned. If I get

3:15

to a part of the story and

3:17

you start to feel scared or uncomfortable,

3:20

this is what you could do. You

3:22

could turn down the phone and to

3:24

five, then turn the volume back up

3:26

it. It still seems like a part

3:28

you don't wanna hear. Turn it down

3:30

and counter Five again. You know how

3:33

much weird and gross and scary you're

3:35

ready for. You know what

3:37

you need. Okay,

3:39

I'm about to join the session.

3:42

Their kids inside waiting to hear

3:44

a grimm fairy tale. So.

3:48

Are you coming in? Everybody

4:06

will. I'll

4:09

hit. So here we are ready

4:12

for strange Red Sox part to

4:14

yea there was a question last

4:16

time about when you should listen

4:19

to some when you said trust.

4:22

Who was the girl trusting and

4:24

she shouldn't have. Sets.

4:27

Off. And what was

4:29

the deal with the Red Fox? Do you

4:31

think that she should listen to him And

4:33

trust him or not? Definitely he said. Was.

4:37

Are there any questions about the

4:40

lakes? Sometimes you shouldn't. Or when

4:42

should you trust yourself and not

4:44

the fox? On the

4:46

pleased. She she trusts yourself

4:48

when he down is definitely

4:51

know this is a. Fascinating.

4:54

One. Of the things I like doing is

4:56

like asking questions that I actually don't know

4:58

the answer to myself on ah and so

5:00

thank you guys for sharing your thoughts on

5:02

these questions because I'm. Been. Challenged.

5:06

The signs are pockets. Are

5:08

to. Once upon a time

5:11

a little girl was riding on the

5:13

tale of a Red Sox you remember

5:15

specifically? where is she going right now.

5:18

The. Gone to the road and Baron

5:20

the little girl in the red fox

5:22

came to forest and to a small

5:24

humble house with smoke rising from a

5:27

single chimney. The fuck said go inside

5:29

there will be an old woman sitting

5:31

in a rocking chair. Does this remind

5:33

you of anything. Yeah,

5:35

that lovely me. And the

5:38

ones oh interesting. another grimaced

5:40

tail. Why? Does that

5:42

remind you of that story? Because there's

5:44

a success. Talks and deal baby.

5:47

In the woods. Very interesting. the

5:49

fox went on. The old lady

5:51

will seem very kind but do

5:53

not speak to her. Whatever you

5:55

do they will be a room

5:58

with a blue door. Do. To

6:00

go in there there is another room with

6:02

a red door. Go. In there.

6:05

There will be all sorts

6:07

of birds, including the golden

6:09

bird. Army

6:13

kids aren't of

6:15

the.in the watch

6:17

Sex and Dies.

6:19

The Fox continued to take the

6:21

golden period and run out as

6:23

fast as you can. Now

6:25

it's even more like the. Old lady in

6:28

the lead to talk to the lady and

6:30

days or him with a blue door. During.

6:34

Sex with The Fox. Or

6:38

you can see landing. Are

6:41

you? Are you? I'm I'm plagiarizing

6:43

Like I'm stealing anatomy. A nice

6:45

day life. So. Since. I

6:48

wrote the story the Old Lady in the

6:50

words. If this one

6:52

next to that story that's not

6:54

called plagiarism, that's called. I

6:56

don't know why major things

6:58

you say. Your main yourself

7:00

around here is as I

7:03

resent that I am connecting

7:05

the stores. The.

7:07

Little girl got off the Red Foxes tail

7:10

and went to the door the small humble

7:12

house. She turn the knob and walked in.

7:14

Just as a Red Fox had predicted, There

7:16

was an old woman sitting in a rocking

7:19

chair in front of a fireplace So it.

7:22

The. Old lady look that. Old.

7:25

Little girl. Said the

7:27

old lady. kindly can. I help.

7:30

The. Old woman smiled so sweetly that it

7:32

seemed wrong not to at least say hello

7:34

to her. Shitty. Now.

7:41

The little girl had ignored the Red

7:43

Foxes advice twice before, and both times

7:45

it seems that the Red Foxx really

7:47

had been trying to help her. So.

7:50

She walked straight past the old woman,

7:52

passed a bright blue door to a

7:54

room with a red door Little. Flew

7:58

to do. What are

8:00

you doing?" the old woman called.

8:03

Hey, that's private. Can

8:05

I help you? The little girl

8:07

opened the red door. Stop

8:10

that. Stop that once. The

8:12

little girl couldn't believe her eyes. It

8:15

was a room full of birds. Doves

8:18

and crows, robins and blue jays,

8:21

ostriches and peacocks, and all

8:23

sorts of birds she had never seen or heard

8:25

of before. They were cooing and

8:28

calling, singing and calling, and making sounds

8:30

she didn't know the names of. Can

8:32

you come up with a bird sound that has never existed

8:34

before? That's

8:40

terrifying. And

8:42

in the middle of the mall, in a dull

8:44

brown cage, sat the golden

8:46

bird. The

8:49

little girl ran into the room, grabbed the

8:51

cage, and ran out again. Stop!

8:55

Thief! The old lady cried. And

8:58

then, her tone changed.

9:01

Birds! Get her! Oh,

9:04

no. Oh,

9:06

my gosh. Suddenly, the little

9:09

girl was surrounded by the menageries

9:11

birds, pecking at her and pulling

9:13

at her and tripping her and beating her

9:15

with their wings. Now everybody, make

9:17

the bird sounds that you just invented.

9:20

Go. She

9:27

pushed through them out the front door, but

9:29

they followed, flapping and running and flying and

9:31

doing everything that they could to stop her.

9:34

The red fox cried. The

9:37

little girl jumped on his tail and woosh! They

9:40

were off and away again. This

9:42

time, the little girl laughed as they rode. The

9:45

wind whistled in her hair and the sun was

9:47

shining and she was riding on a fox, and

9:49

she had two golden apples and the golden bird.

9:52

Life was good. Finally,

9:56

the red fox and the little girl arrived back

9:58

at the edge of the forest. where they

10:00

first met. The. Red Foxx

10:02

stopped and little girl got off

10:04

his back. Thank you Fox The

10:07

little girl says i think. Three

10:09

think they should have trusted you

10:11

all alone. I'm sorry. For

10:14

the Red Fox said no. You

10:16

are trusting your own judgment. thinking.

10:19

Things through for yourself. You never

10:21

have to apologize for that. But

10:24

I am glad that I have earned your trust. Because.

10:26

I have one more thing to ask a few.

10:32

And the Red Fox said. Any

10:34

guesses? Who. I.

10:37

Am your saw? I don't. Know.

10:42

What the red Fox said

10:44

was police little girl. Cut

10:47

off my head, Grips

10:51

exclaim, the little girl cut

10:54

off my head and then

10:56

you will have repaid me.

10:58

The little girl stammered. Never

11:02

Lease. Trust me. I want you to

11:04

cut off my head. While the Red

11:06

Fox was begging, the little girl thought

11:08

back to what her father used to

11:11

say: If you were told the cut

11:13

off someone's head, would you believe that

11:15

was a good idea to. With

11:18

her father's voice still echoing in her

11:20

memory, a little girl said. Sorry

11:23

sucks know. I

11:25

will not cut off your head. The

11:28

Red Sox side so so

11:30

sadly. Oh

11:33

well. Then at least

11:35

let me give you some advice before I leave

11:37

you. Do. Not. sit on

11:39

the edge of a wells and do

11:41

not trust your sisters. Her sister's the

11:44

little girl had forgotten all about them.

11:46

She asked the Red Foxx where they do

11:48

You know? So. The Red Foxx

11:51

told her about the to in how one

11:53

was warm and inviting and the other cold

11:55

and for Lorne and our sisters were trapped

11:57

in the warm and inviting one but that

11:59

she. The never go in there

12:01

no matter how inviting it's see

12:04

and he reminded her again no

12:06

matter what happens to not trust

12:08

your sisters And off he went.

12:17

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12:20

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12:22

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12:26

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12:30

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12:33

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12:35

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12:37

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12:39

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12:42

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12:44

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12:46

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12:49

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12:52

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12:54

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12:56

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12:59

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The little girl hurried through the wood until she

15:06

came to the place where the two inns stood.

15:09

When she got there she saw her two sisters

15:11

in the window of the inviting inn. Music

15:14

was playing inside and people were

15:16

laughing. The little girl was about

15:18

to rush in after her sisters. But

15:22

then she remembered what the red fox

15:25

had said and how he

15:27

had never yet let her astray. After

15:30

a moment she went up to the window

15:32

and tapped on the glass. Her

15:34

sisters looked at her but they

15:36

did not remember her. They didn't even

15:38

remember their own names. The older sisters

15:47

did not recognize their youngest sister and they went

15:49

back to laughing and eating and drinking in the

15:51

inn. The little girl tapped on

15:53

the window again. But this time

15:56

she held up the two golden apples and

15:58

the cage with the golden birds. Well,

16:01

the older sisters still didn't remember her, and

16:03

they didn't remember anything about two golden apples

16:05

and a golden bird. But

16:07

they were mightily attracted to the gold. So

16:10

they left the inn and came outside. And

16:13

as soon as they did, the spell was broken,

16:15

and they remembered who they were. They

16:18

ran to their little sister and hugged her and kissed

16:20

her. As

16:22

they made their way home together, the little girl

16:24

told them all about it for adventures. As

16:28

she spoke, her sisters became

16:30

jealous. Their little

16:32

sister would get all the credit for

16:34

retrieving the golden apples and finding the

16:37

golden bird. And they would

16:39

look like fools. The

16:41

eldest sister turned to the middle sister

16:44

and whispered, How do you like that,

16:46

sister? The middle sister replied, I don't

16:49

like it at all, sister. They're

16:52

gonna kill her. They're gonna try to kill her.

16:55

It was a hot day, so the three sisters soon

16:57

stopped at a well. The

16:59

eldest sister brought some water up with the

17:01

bucket and then turned to the youngest sister.

17:04

Come, sit next to me on the

17:06

edge of the well. No, no, remember the fox

17:08

told her not to. The

17:10

little girl knew better than to sit on the edge

17:13

of a well. And besides, the red fox had just

17:15

told her not to. But

17:17

the middle sister said, Oh, it feels

17:19

so nice to let your feet dangle

17:21

in the cool darkness. And

17:24

the eldest sister said, It

17:26

feels so nice to sit here

17:28

and drink this cold water. And

17:31

they both said, It feels so

17:33

nice to be sisters.

17:36

Well the little girl wanted to feel all

17:38

of those things. Especially

17:41

which one? To feel nice to be sister,

17:44

being sisters. So the

17:46

little girl went and sat on the edge of the

17:48

well beside her sisters. Because if

17:50

they were doing it, how dangerous could it be?

17:53

Which is when they pushed her in and

17:56

she fell to the bottom of the well. She

18:01

drowned. What the end? Is that

18:03

the end? The older sisters

18:05

grabbed the golden apples and the golden

18:07

bird and hurried for home. When

18:10

they arrived, their father rejoiced to see

18:12

them at last. You're

18:14

home! Haha! And you

18:16

have the golden apples! And

18:18

the golden bird! And then he

18:21

noticed something. Wait! Where

18:25

is your sister? With

18:27

tears in their eyes, they told their father

18:29

how the little girl had sat on the

18:31

edge of a well, despite them begging her

18:33

not to. And she had fallen in

18:36

and drowned. Is that true? No.

18:39

I begged her to do it. Yeah.

18:42

The gardener cried. Then

18:44

he dried his tears and took

18:46

the golden apples, the golden bird,

18:48

and his two surviving girls to

18:50

the king to show him what

18:52

wonderful, clever, trustworthy daughters he had.

18:56

Uh-huh. Yeah, right. I know

18:58

it's terrible, but I personally wish the fox would

19:01

cut their heads off. Oh. Agreed.

19:04

Yeah. Meanwhile, back at the well, the little

19:06

girl was dead. No,

19:10

that's not how to end a story.

19:13

But soon, the red fox came

19:15

trotting along. He reached his

19:17

snout down into the well and lifted the little girl

19:20

out with his teeth. And he

19:22

breathed into her nostrils with his pulled

19:24

black nose. And

19:26

the little girl woke up.

19:29

What do you think happened? CPR. She

19:31

magically came back to life. She

19:34

magically came to life. Either

19:37

she magically came back to life or

19:39

that's exactly just fox CPR. The

19:43

little girl lay on the ground coughing and

19:45

sputtering. Sitting beside her was the

19:47

red fox. Also, an axe.

19:52

The little girl sat up. The

19:54

fox watched her for a while. At

19:57

last, he sighed miserably and said,

20:00

I've given you good advice again and

20:02

again, and now I've saved

20:04

your life. Please, won't

20:07

you show your faith in me by doing

20:09

the one thing I ask for myself?" And

20:12

he gestured at the axe with his snout.

20:15

What is he asking her to do? Cut off his

20:17

head. Yeah. The

20:19

little girl didn't know what to say. When

20:22

should you listen to someone and trust them?

20:25

Are there times to trust someone even when

20:27

what they say makes no sense? The

20:30

girl didn't know. So

20:33

there is a word for trusting someone or something

20:35

even when you have no evidence that what they're

20:37

saying is true. Does anyone know what

20:39

word that is? If

20:41

you trust someone even though you have no reason

20:44

to believe in them or you believe in an

20:46

idea even though you have no evidence that it's

20:48

true but you still trust them, there

20:53

is a word for that that starts with the

20:55

letter F. Friendship. Following. Faith?

20:58

Faith. That's the word

21:01

I was thinking of. The

21:04

little girl took one long last look

21:06

at the miserable fox. Then

21:08

she stood up and picked up

21:11

the axe and she

21:13

cut off his head and

21:15

the red fox died. Then

21:21

something very strange happened. The

21:24

red fox's little body began to

21:26

change. It

21:28

grew and grew and

21:31

changed some more. Is he a human?

21:33

I knew it. Soon, standing in front

21:35

of the little girl was a tall

21:37

man with a red beard and a

21:39

red coat. He looked

21:41

like a wizard because

21:43

he was a wizard. He

21:46

explained that... I know what happened. What?

21:49

The old lady in the

21:51

cottage turned him into a

21:53

fox instead of a wizard.

21:55

So when he took some child to chop off

21:57

his head, he would go back into the tall.

22:00

of some wizard he was before. Completely

22:02

wrong. Actually,

22:05

pretty much exactly right. Oh. He

22:09

explained that when he was a wizard, he

22:11

had angered the witch who lived in the

22:13

cabin with the birds. He had

22:15

told her a lie, which he shouldn't have done. The

22:18

witch became enraged and told him that she had

22:20

lost all faith in him and that no one

22:22

should ever trust him again. And

22:25

then she cursed him by turning him into

22:27

a fox. She liked turning people

22:30

into foxes, and the curse could

22:32

only be lifted if someone had faith in

22:34

him again. Which no

22:36

one had. Until

22:38

the little girl came along. Now

22:41

the red bearded wizard who used to be a

22:43

fox asked the girl if she wanted to come

22:45

and be his apprentice, so she might learn how

22:48

to be a wizard herself one day. Who would

22:50

say yesterday? Missy. Yeah,

22:53

I want to be a wizard too, very much. The

22:56

little girl asked, What about

22:58

my father and sisters? But the

23:00

wizard told her that she didn't have to worry

23:02

about them anymore. They had

23:04

gotten their reward. For

23:07

the gardener and the sisters had gone to the

23:09

king and showed him the golden apples and the

23:11

golden bird. And at first,

23:13

the king had been very excited. But

23:16

then he had asked the older sisters questions about

23:18

how they'd gotten the apples and the

23:20

bird. The story

23:22

was so outlandish and unbelievable, and they

23:24

kept contradicting each other because they hadn't

23:27

done any of those things themselves. But

23:29

the king didn't believe them. Something doesn't

23:32

add up here. And he

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shouldn't have. Because they were,

23:36

after all, lying. The

23:38

king questioned the older sisters until they admitted

23:40

that the youngest sister had been the one

23:43

to recover the apples and the bird, and

23:45

that they had killed her for them. And

23:48

so the king announced their punishment.

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And what do you think that punishment should

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be? I think they

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should hang them by the kinky fingers and let

23:58

the witch in the cottage with the bird stay. put

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them to death. Tang them by their

24:02

thumbs until they die. I like

24:04

that. Put them in a barrel

24:06

that full of nails poking out and

24:08

then roll them down a hill into

24:10

a pool of lava and then blow

24:13

the barrel up. That

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would be thorough. They would be dead. So the

24:17

older sisters were put to death and

24:20

the father went back to his cottage to tend the golden

24:22

apple tree. And he thought of his

24:24

girls, all three of them, all

24:26

the time. Why is he thinking of his

24:28

girls? He treated his girls wrong in their whole lunch.

24:31

He regretted it. Meanwhile, the

24:33

little girl became the red bearded wizard's

24:35

apprentice and she grew up into a

24:37

very powerful and very wise wizard herself.

24:40

And she learned the answer to every question

24:42

in the world. Except

24:44

for one. When

24:47

should you have faith? Not

24:49

even wise and powerful wizards can answer

24:51

that one for sure. Nevertheless,

24:55

she lived happily ever

24:57

after. The

24:59

end. Is that the

25:01

moral? I don't know. What

25:03

do you think? The moral is

25:06

you'll never know when to have faith and

25:08

someone would trust yourself. Oh, that

25:10

sounds so cheesy. Yeah,

25:13

we try not to do cheese, but maybe I gotta

25:15

look close. I still

25:17

kind of want to know what's in the blue door. You

25:20

know what? You can find out if you listen to

25:23

the old lady in the woods. In that story, somebody

25:25

goes in the blue door. Oh,

25:27

so it was connected. Grim,

25:33

Grimmer, Grimist is a pena

25:35

original production created, written and

25:37

narrated by me, Adam Gidwitz.

25:39

Author of The Tale, Dark

25:41

and Grim. Co-written by Allie

25:44

Horn. Produced and edited by

25:46

Ilana Milner. Casting by Paula

25:48

Gaiman Wilson. Voice direction

25:50

by Ilana Milner and Paula Gaiman

25:52

Wilson. Sound design and mixing by

25:54

Beat Street NYC. Executive produced by

25:57

Ann Richards. Production support by Ashley

25:59

Beecher. and Sadias Dankwos.

26:01

Characters voiced by Allison Lee

26:03

Rosenfeld, Barrett Letty, Billy Bob

26:06

Thompson, Colin Ryan, Eddie Lee,

26:09

Erica Schroeder, Rachel Slocky,

26:11

Ryan Nichols, and Shelly

26:13

Baez. Special thanks to all the kids

26:16

who joined us for our storytelling sessions.

26:18

You guys are awesome. Do

26:29

you like to laugh? Ah, who

26:31

am I kidding? Who doesn't like to laugh?

26:34

So, okay, if you love to

26:36

laugh, you'll love Don't Break the

26:38

Rules. It's a hilarious comedy

26:40

improv podcast where the voice actors make

26:42

up their lines on the spot and

26:45

try to be the only actor who doesn't break

26:47

the rules. These talented actors

26:49

are great at coming up with silly

26:51

themes and stories when they follow the

26:54

rules for the episode. And

26:56

it gets even sillier when they accidentally

26:58

break the rules. The stories

27:00

are guided by suggestions from kids like you,

27:03

and the episodes feature laughs, burps,

27:05

and the occasional unicorn.

27:08

So if you'd like to giggle and play

27:10

along, be sure to listen to Don't

27:12

Break the Rules wherever you listen to

27:14

podcasts.