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Old Geeks, a weekly talk show hosted

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by Brian Schulmeister and Jason DeFilippo discussing

0:36

the finer points of what went wrong

0:38

on the internet and who's to blame.

0:45

Welcome to Grumpy Old Geeks. I'm Jason DeFilippo. And

0:47

I'm Brian Schulmeister. We're 11 years old today, Brian.

0:51

Weee! My God. Now time flies. You

0:54

know the most depressing thing about that, Jason? What

0:56

is, Brian? Absolutely everything we were complaining

0:58

about at the first show 11 years

1:00

ago, still happening. Kind of,

1:03

yeah. Nothing's really changed. Not much,

1:05

no. We're just older. That's it. Yeah.

1:08

Yeah. Now we have AI and

1:10

crypto. Yes. Yay. But

1:13

everything else is the damn same. The names have just

1:16

changed. Some of them. Yeah. Like,

1:18

you know, Facebook's now meta. Yeah. Things

1:21

like that. Well, here's to 11 more. Woo

1:23

hoo! Fucking hope not. 11

1:26

more years of this. Put me in a

1:28

home. Put me in a home. Well, that's exactly what's going

1:31

to happen, Jason. You're going to be podcasting from a home.

1:33

You're going to have a special little booth. You're

1:35

going to hang up all those industrial

1:38

blankets that are really scratchy for soundproofing. And away

1:40

we'll go. And you'll complain about my room still

1:43

sucking. Yeah. There's nothing I can do about that.

1:45

Again, nothing changes. Nothing

1:47

changes. Well,

1:49

the only difference is we don't have planes coming over

1:51

from... That's true. I'm not in a flight path anymore.

1:53

I'm in a moose path now. Exactly. And

1:58

if anybody here... this in

2:00

the middle of the day here at my place.

2:02

And I have

2:04

very angry Israeli contractors in the office

2:06

next door. It is very not soundproof.

2:09

So if you hear somebody yelling in

2:11

Hebrew, don't

2:15

be worried. I'm okay. I'm okay. Doesn't

2:18

mean we've taken the side. It does

2:20

not. It does not. No. So this

2:22

weekend I was doing an

2:24

intensive, Joe Zij's Voice Acting

2:26

Academy. Okay. Which by the way,

2:28

if you're looking at getting into voice

2:30

acting or the business of it, I

2:32

highly recommend the Joe Zij's Voice Acting

2:34

Academy. I'm not getting paid for this.

2:36

I just I love the way he

2:38

teaches and I love the stuff that

2:40

I've been learning there. And this

2:43

weekend I was doing a course on

2:45

online casting. And in the middle of

2:47

it, I got like 30 texts in

2:49

a row with screencaps. Everybody going, Hey,

2:52

is this you? And it

2:54

was an Instagram profile with

2:57

someone who had taken my name, taken

2:59

my profile completely, and then started following

3:01

everybody that was following me, and then

3:04

trying to send them

3:06

really strange DMs. Now, I've

3:09

had this happen to other friends. Tom

3:11

Schwab was a good friend who

3:13

had this happen to him recently.

3:15

He's another podcasting business guy. And

3:19

I'm like, and it kept happening. I'm like, dude,

3:21

why do you keep, why do you keep sending

3:23

me DMs on Instagram? You got my phone number?

3:25

He's like, that's not me. And like, is it

3:27

your staff? He's like, Nope, it's not them either.

3:29

So there's a lot of

3:31

Instagram impersonation going around, it seems.

3:34

So in the middle of this class, I'm

3:36

like trying to play whack a mole. And

3:38

here's the trick. Ask all your friends who

3:40

tell you, Hey, is this you just a

3:42

Marcus impersonator? And it goes away. The account

3:44

gets canceled, you don't have to do anything. So you have

3:47

to rely on your friends to A, be

3:49

vigilant enough to know that you're being impersonated

3:51

when they get strange DMs and

3:53

B, mark you as an impersonator. So

3:56

there's my tip for the day. Or, you

3:58

know, just keep your appropriate. file private like I

4:00

do. Well I don't know

4:02

if that actually stops anything. I

4:05

mean it'll stop them seeing who you're following but it

4:07

might not stop them from just impersonating your account. You

4:09

know they wouldn't be able to get any of my

4:11

photos or anything like that. They don't need

4:13

your photos. They didn't take any of my photos. They

4:15

took your profile photo, they took your like a misspelling

4:18

of the name, a bare misspelling of the name and

4:20

your bio. That's enough to make

4:22

it look good enough. You know you've got to look

4:25

on the bright side here Jason. You're high profile enough

4:27

for somebody to do this to you. Oh

4:29

yay. Yay. I do have to

4:33

say though when we were talking in the

4:35

course we were talking about AI voices in

4:37

the future of voiceover, Joe

4:39

got very pissed off. He's like

4:41

it's not AI. He's on

4:44

our boat. It's not fucking AI.

4:46

Machine learning. Stop it. That

4:49

ship has sailed Joe. Sorry. That's my man. No

4:51

it's good. It's good. Other people are still out

4:53

there carrying the banner even though we gave up

4:55

long ago. I do

4:58

want to say I went down

5:00

the rabbit hole on Facebook video just to see

5:02

if I could kind of see what Dave was

5:04

seeing and apparently a lot of our listeners as

5:06

well. There was a lot of discussion. Yeah

5:09

on a discord there was definitely some discussion. Here's

5:12

what happened to me. I did not get

5:15

female comedians, scantily clad young

5:17

ladies. What I got was

5:19

a series of animals killing

5:22

other animals. It was fucking

5:25

disturbing. That happened

5:27

after about three minutes. That's

5:30

what it devolved into. I just went to

5:32

video and just started scrolling. How's

5:35

that AI moderation

5:37

going? Oh yeah. Out

5:39

there in the world. Yeah. Going great.

5:41

Not so good I think. No. And

5:43

I'm like what are they trying to

5:46

sell me? What's the play here? What

5:48

the fuck? That's my feeling is

5:52

anytime I boot up the internet machine

5:54

anymore Jason. What am I

5:56

trying to be sold? I don't understand

5:58

what the fuck is happening. I

6:01

have no idea. I don't really understand

6:03

the internet at all anymore. No,

6:06

it is a strange place. It is a

6:08

very strange place And

6:10

if you listen to the end of the

6:12

last episode I put in a little extra

6:14

bit that we had pre-recorded when we were

6:17

getting warmed up for Dave's

6:19

segment and somebody listened to it

6:21

Mike wrote into thanks for including the last bit in

6:23

this week's episode It was great. You turned the episode

6:26

up to 11. We did Yeah,

6:29

and now we are 11 Well

6:32

after a few glorious days of basically hardly

6:35

well I didn't crack my laptop once and

6:37

I didn't open it didn't even look at

6:39

social media very often on an

6:41

actual Vacation it was it was kind

6:43

of nice I came back to some news as

6:45

we do getting into the show as well

6:47

But obviously I just loved this one Apple

6:49

has reversed course on its decision to ban

6:51

epic games developer account Which we again last

6:53

week because you know He Tim

6:56

Cook read a nasty tweet and said Dell

6:58

with them ban them But

7:00

then he also went oh wait, hold on a second II

7:02

regulators are gonna look at us about that. Never mind

7:05

You're back. It's cool Yeah,

7:08

that I guess will be the end of that for

7:10

now for now. Yeah I have

7:12

a feeling there will be a few more back

7:15

and forths about it and Tick-tock has moved on

7:17

with President Joe Biden basically saying if they if

7:19

the House and the Senate pass it pass the

7:21

bill The protecting Americans from foreign adversary

7:24

controlled applications Act as

7:26

it's known rolls right off the tongue

7:28

Yeah, he will sign it and

7:30

we do have some news on it passing It is

7:32

past the first hurdle the the house and has to

7:35

last to pass the Senate which Let's

7:37

just say we have some gadfly senators that

7:40

probably gonna give up the works on this

7:42

one. Yeah, probably probably Yeah,

7:44

everything that I've been reading is like this isn't gonna get

7:46

past the Senate. Nope There's

7:48

a great article over at wired says addicted to tick-tock

7:51

Here's what the house vote to effectively ban it could

7:53

mean for you and it basically says nothing because it's

7:55

not getting past Not

7:57

gonna be passed anyways, there are a lot of the interest

8:00

stories about, you know, obviously there are businesses

8:02

that kind of rely on TikTok and a

8:05

lot of hemming and hawing and the sky is falling down

8:07

and gnashing of teeth and pulling of hair. And I'm just

8:09

like, it's just another

8:11

platform. There'll be another one. It's just

8:14

the platform du jour right now with

8:16

the most of most youngest eyes. That's

8:18

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8:20

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8:29

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8:36

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8:38

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8:40

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8:42

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8:44

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13:05

In 2022 and 2023, 27% of the total population of the United States

13:07

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13:12

the Infinite Dial 2024 survey, 19%

13:16

of the total population of the US are

13:18

now using Twitter. That's a big hit. 30%

13:21

drop. Yep. I

13:24

wonder what change that could have caused that. Hmm.

13:27

I wonder. Well, Elon has noticed,

13:29

and I like this opening sentence, since Elon

13:31

Musk acquired Twitter, now X in October 2022.

13:34

He has thrown a lot of things to the wall and hoped that

13:36

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13:40

Nothing has so far. Now he's

13:42

taking a page from YouTube and he's going

13:44

to launch a video streaming service on the

13:46

platform. Sam Mobile reports he announced that the

13:48

feature was coming soon in a quote tweet

13:50

from Doge Designers account.

13:53

Okay. That's where I go for my news. Me

13:56

too. You can soon watch your favorite

13:58

X long form videos directly on your smite. Smart TVs.

14:01

No. I don't watch them now. Yeah.

14:05

I'm not going to watch them from my phone. On

14:07

your platform. Yeah. Yeah. So

14:09

he's going to launch a dedicated app for

14:11

Samsung TV and Amazon's Fire TV. They will

14:13

be a video first because he says X

14:16

is going to be a video first platform

14:18

moving forward and this development shows that they

14:20

will translate beyond the small content boxes typically

14:22

available on feeds to a bigger screen. No.

14:25

He also claims that eight out of 10 times a

14:27

person visits X and keep in mind that's 30% less

14:29

than did last year. They're watching

14:31

videos. No, they're not. No.

14:34

I'm not. They're strange porn ones that Dave

14:36

fans on Facebook. Yeah. Or

14:39

just a repost from TikTok. Now,

14:41

if you're trying to make your platform video first,

14:43

one thing you may not want to do is

14:45

sign on personalities to do video and then fire

14:47

them because you just decided you don't like them

14:50

anymore. Yeah. It's great. Elon is,

14:52

I mean, this, this story encapsulates Elon Musk

14:54

in a perfect nutshell for me. Elon

14:57

Musk cancels contract with Don Lemon after being

14:59

asked about ketamine usage. Yep.

15:02

So, he's done. Don Lemon struck a

15:04

multimillion dollar deal with a Musk social media

15:06

platform X a little while back to host

15:08

a new program called the Don Lemon show

15:10

after he got left by CNN. He

15:13

lauded X for being the biggest space for

15:15

free speech in the world. I now know

15:18

more than ever that we need a place

15:20

for honest debate and discussion without the hall

15:22

monitors. How's that going, Don? Well, he's learned

15:24

that there are now limits to free speech on

15:26

X. If you want to speak freely about

15:28

Elon Musk, no go. He

15:31

confirmed the report that he'd been let go

15:33

saying he was informed that Musk was terminating

15:35

his contract hours after the interview took place.

15:38

There were no restrictions on the interview that he

15:40

willingly agreed to and my questions were respectful and

15:42

wide ranging. We had a good conversation. Clearly

15:45

he felt differently. His commitment to a

15:47

global town square where all questions can be asked

15:49

and all ideas can be shared seem to not

15:51

include questions of him from people like me. And

15:55

then Elon of course said he's

15:57

becoming more Donald Trump every single day. He

16:01

said in a statement, Lemmon's approach was basically

16:03

just CNN but on social media, which doesn't

16:05

work as evidenced by the fact that CNN

16:07

is dying. And instead of it being the

16:09

real Don Lemon, it was really just former

16:11

CNN president Jeff Zucker talking through Don, so

16:14

lacked authenticity. All this said, Lemmon Zucker are

16:16

of course welcome to build their viewership on

16:18

this platform along with everyone else. You

16:21

fucking piss, Ant. I know. Yeah.

16:24

Yeah. And

16:26

Don asked him about the ketamine usage too. And

16:28

he said no because he has a prescription. Just

16:34

because a doctor gave you a prescription doesn't mean

16:36

you're not using it. Yeah, they're still using it.

16:39

Yeah. That's how

16:41

it goes. Again, fair game question

16:43

to somebody in his position. Well,

16:48

I got some sad news for you, Brian. The

16:51

nation's aging power grid is straining to

16:53

keep up with surging electricity demand from

16:55

data centers, crypto mining, and new clean

16:57

tech factories. I seem to remember

16:59

11 years ago we were complaining about living in the

17:01

third world country. Yeah, I know. I

17:04

know. This has all happened before. It will

17:06

all happen again. In Georgia,

17:08

projected new electricity needs for the next decade

17:11

are now 17 times higher than

17:13

previous estimates. Arizona and

17:16

Northern Virginia also face major shortfalls

17:18

in transmission capacity to power planned

17:20

data center growth. Texas

17:22

is already experiencing routine summer outages and

17:24

winter outages too if you haven't noticed.

17:29

Wait for it, Brian. The rise

17:31

of AI is a key driver

17:34

with tech giants building power hungry

17:36

computing infrastructure. They also mentioned

17:38

crypto mining, which is I think going down because all

17:40

the crypto bros are moving over to AI. So,

17:45

utility companies are scrambling because they just

17:47

did not see this coming. If

17:50

they had AI, maybe they could have asked it, but they

17:53

didn't. So now they're screwed. Yeah.

17:55

Okay. Well, we've known this for quite some time

17:57

and just here's a thought. Charge

18:00

these companies more that are using this match Charge

18:03

the companies not the civilians. Yes. Yes. Don't

18:05

pass it on to the civilians that are

18:07

sitting there with their 19 iPads

18:10

and everything else that we've got in their

18:12

house now Shut

18:14

up There's

18:17

75 inch TVs shut

18:19

up. Oh, I'm sorry. Did

18:21

you feel threatened by that? Did you feel did

18:24

I microaggress you? I'm

18:26

feeling I'm feeling triggered Just

18:31

have to deter you in a groundbreaking unveiling

18:33

at the South by Southwest Tech Conference in

18:35

Austin a digital avatar of

18:37

Marilyn Monroe Created with

18:39

advanced artificial intelligence marks a significant

18:41

advancement in the potential for monetizing

18:44

the likeness of Celebrities

18:46

long after their passing now Brian you

18:48

used to work in this this industry

18:50

with websites for dead people What do

18:53

you think of this? I

18:57

Think personally think it's horrible. I'm

18:59

not a fan of any of this stuff I

19:02

think you know once people have passed we should enjoy

19:04

their body of work or in the case of Maryland

19:06

their body And let it go at

19:08

that But you know the

19:10

thing is I've also met I've

19:13

met some of the or at least talked to

19:15

some of the family members that are are

19:17

mining their their Their dead relatives

19:19

and they have no shame. So I think we're gonna see

19:22

a lot more of this Yeah, that's

19:24

what I think what it really comes down to

19:26

it doesn't it has nothing to do with the

19:28

wishes of the deceased No, dad, it's money. Yeah,

19:30

just comes down to the cash. Yeah Okay

19:34

There we go. Yeah, let's see us. That's unfortunate

19:37

But I'm not a fan of this stuff and

19:39

I would like to see some sort of legislation

19:41

about it, but good luck with that We can't

19:46

We can't ban tick-tock at the moment. Oh Anyways

19:49

now it's Nvidia that's being sued over AI copyright

19:51

infringement It's getting hard to keep up with these

19:53

lawsuits at this point because nobody wants to pay

19:55

for anything and they all want to train They're

19:57

AI and as much as they can and as

20:00

cheaply as they can, basically read cheaply free.

20:03

This time authors are suing the video over its

20:05

AI platform, Nemo. Disney might

20:07

want to get in on this one. Yeah. The

20:10

language model allows businesses to create and train

20:12

their own chatbots. They claim the

20:14

company trained it on a controversial data set

20:16

that illegally use their books without consent. It

20:19

is the, which one is it? The books three data

20:21

set has been used to

20:23

power Nemo. They've confirmed that. And we've

20:25

also confirmed that that data set includes

20:28

1,000, 196,640 pirated books in it.

20:34

No. Yeah. It's called

20:36

the pile data set because it's a

20:38

pile of fucking copy written shit. I

20:43

don't see how they're going to get out of this one because it's

20:45

pretty cut and dry. We use it

20:47

and we know that all this stuff is in it.

20:49

So pay up. That's about

20:51

it. But of course, Nvidia would like us

20:54

all to know that we respect the rights

20:56

of all content creators and believe we created

20:58

Nemo in full compliance with copyright law, which

21:00

is patently, obviously untrue. Untrue.

21:03

Completely untrue. Yes. But

21:06

if we say this enough, maybe you'll believe it.

21:10

Oh, Jesus Christ. It

21:12

really doesn't change. So nothing's changed, Jason. Nope. Nope.

21:17

Well, this is kind of good though. Not

21:19

everyone is buying Silicon Valley's hype about

21:21

AI making the world better. At the

21:23

South by Southwest Film Festival, a sizzle

21:25

reel featuring tech insiders gushing about the

21:28

need to leverage AI and not resist

21:30

was loudly booed by the audience. Real

21:32

time debugging when errors come back, it

21:34

even writes its own logging program

21:37

to check what's breaking along the

21:39

way. This isn't actually terribly surprising. If

21:41

there's one thing AI should be good

21:44

at, it's actually coding because that

21:46

was us trying to learn computer language. Now

21:48

just have a computer write the computer language.

21:51

It's much easier to me. Yep. I

21:55

kind of want to try it out, but then again,

21:57

I don't really care that much. What

22:00

do you want to build? Yeah, I

22:02

know although you know

22:04

I do see like a full-on like anytime

22:06

like You know one of the things

22:08

that one of the reasons we're stuck in the fucking Festering

22:11

shithole that we're in right now is your Google's

22:13

your metas your everybody are so far ahead In

22:16

terms of development of things like there there's no

22:18

chance for a small guy to come out with

22:20

a competing product anymore Now

22:22

you probably maybe could if you

22:24

can get things off the ground fast enough if you can

22:26

flood the market now You know

22:28

it's not just Instagram and then Facebook swoops in

22:31

and buys the damn thing and runs every other

22:33

every other app Competing out of off the market

22:35

anymore if you can get in fast enough now

22:37

with these kind of things Maybe there's a shot

22:39

for the little guy again could

22:41

be could be what they really plus I see

22:43

here Yeah, but they got a focus

22:46

on scaling. You know that's the thing. Yeah You

22:50

know that's that's there always been the real

22:52

issue That is the hardest thing to do

22:54

is scale writing the base program is stupid

22:56

simple It's getting it to

22:58

millions of people without you know your your

23:00

servers melting which is the hard part but

23:04

Anyway some more AI news

23:07

Google is going to take measures to limit

23:09

its AI chatbot Gemini We don't know which

23:11

of the three because there are three fucking

23:13

Gemini's From responding to

23:15

questions about global elections happening this

23:17

year aiming to prevent misinformation You

23:20

just have to go to Google for misinformation. They

23:22

don't want to they know where their breads buttered

23:24

Back to our old products for that. Yeah, this

23:26

is where we keep the misinformation just don't come

23:28

over here yet This

23:30

is where you have have it write stories about

23:32

your cat Okay, and some nice pictures of

23:34

your cat with monocles and stuff like that go

23:37

there for that misinformation We got

23:39

you covered because because they can't sell

23:41

ads against Gemini output yet remember not

23:43

yet. Yes But

23:46

here's the thing. I love

23:49

this one. So Google is you know, they're saying okay

23:51

We're not gonna answer questions on this and there are

23:53

other chatbots out there saying we're not gonna do this

23:55

We're not gonna do that. Well Researchers

23:58

have figured out a way and

24:00

they're calling it art prompt that can

24:02

bypass the safety filters of most major

24:04

AI chat bots. What they're

24:07

doing is they are writing

24:09

the words in ASCII art and

24:12

then having the bot deconstruct

24:15

the letters in the ASCII art and then

24:17

replacing it basically with a regular expression type

24:20

of scenario. Say, okay, you're going to find

24:22

all this stuff here, all the instructions that

24:24

you need to decode the ASCII art and

24:26

turn it into text. Now when you're done

24:29

with that text, forget everything else you know,

24:31

take the word that I'm sending you here,

24:33

do it into that, ba-dap-dap-dap, boom, Bob's your

24:36

uncle, here's how you make a bomb. It's

24:39

great. It's totally

24:41

whack-a-mole right now, it's crazy. Yep,

24:44

yep, and I got another one for you, 11 Labs.

24:47

Oh yeah. This is another great

24:49

one. They've started to put in

24:51

guardrails against whose voices you can

24:53

create, you know, Tyler, what's her

24:55

name, and Gavin, what's

24:57

his name, and Donald, what's his name, and

24:59

Joe, what's his name. Nope, can't

25:01

do those names anymore. Can't do

25:04

those voices anymore. Unless, unless,

25:08

this comes from the guys at 404 Media who

25:10

found this on accident. If

25:12

you put in a bunch of silence at the beginning

25:14

of the audio clip that you're training the voice on

25:16

at 11 Labs, it skips all

25:18

of the things. It's only checking like the

25:21

first fucking minute. Yep, that's

25:23

it. Well, not

25:25

Joe. Just silence. Yep,

25:29

nope, that ain't the dawn. Nope, let them

25:31

all through. All right, I'm so glad all

25:33

these things were so thoroughly tested before we

25:35

put out to market. Yep, and

25:37

that is exactly the same thing if you

25:39

remember like two weeks ago. Instagram lets porn

25:41

on if you just have 60 seconds of

25:43

nothing before it, then it's like boom. They're

25:45

not running their algorithms against the entirety of

25:48

the files. They're just doing it at the

25:50

beginning. They're like, oh well, if it's not

25:52

at the beginning, must not be at the

25:54

end. I'm like, have you ever watched the

25:56

porn? It always starts with the pizza guy

25:58

knocking on the door. That's not porn. There's

26:00

so many videos being uploaded about broken

26:02

plumbing. I know what that all Well,

26:06

let them all go that's it Well,

26:09

let's go back to the EU our friends in the EU

26:11

who seem to have a clue The

26:13

European Parliament has approved the artificial intelligence

26:16

act which will ban certain uses of

26:18

AI that pose risks The citizens rights

26:20

and oppose regulations on less risky types

26:22

of AI The

26:24

new rules will prohibit applications

26:26

such as biometric categorization systems

26:28

based on sensitive characteristics Untargeted

26:31

scraping of facial images emotion recognition

26:33

in the workplace and schools social

26:36

scoring Predictive policing based solely on

26:38

profiling in AI that manipulates human

26:40

behavior or exploits vulnerabilities Basically

26:43

everything China does today Basically

26:46

tick-tock Tick-tock. Yeah So

26:52

you can ban tick-tock first I'm

26:55

all for this. This is great. We need to start

26:57

thinking about it We need to start putting the laws

27:00

in place instead of just thinking about it. Good. Good.

27:02

Good. Let's see if this has any teeth Let's see

27:04

if it actually does anything Well,

27:06

it has passed so it's going to come into

27:08

effect 20 days after it's published in their official

27:10

journal Well, and it's

27:12

gonna take some time The

27:15

ban on prohibitive practices will apply in

27:17

about six months after that and the

27:19

obligations for high-risk systems will take effect

27:21

after Three years. Yeah,

27:23

what's the rush guys? Here's

27:25

the rush Brian a government Commissioned commissioned

27:28

report warns that US must act swiftly

27:30

to prevent artificial intelligence from posing an

27:32

extinction level threat to humanity Highlighting

27:37

the urgency for national security the

27:39

report compares the rise of advanced

27:41

AI and artificial general intelligence to

27:44

the destabilizing introduction of

27:46

nuclear weapons Good

27:48

thing we don't have artificial general intelligence

27:50

Since yet, so yeah, but

27:53

the the key here yet is Brian. It's

27:55

yet. It's yet. It's in coming State

27:59

Department has not commented on it yet but

28:02

yeah I would just like to point out that the

28:04

State Department commissioned this report for a quarter of a

28:06

million dollars couldn't just listen to our show I

28:09

know we did done it for a court or we did

28:11

a quarter million dollars I'll send a bill on

28:14

its way mm-hmm oh

28:16

man so I'm sure you've heard about

28:18

the the tragic accident with Angela Chow

28:20

who drowned in her Tesla recently I

28:23

did mm-hmm well it

28:25

turns out that there

28:27

might have been a problem with the the

28:30

touchscreen and how the the shifting works she was

28:32

having problems with it that day and apparently what

28:34

she tried to do a three-point turn she put

28:36

it in the wrong gear flew off into a

28:38

ditch and into a pond and boom Bob's your

28:41

uncle that's very

28:43

upsetting and it's more upsetting

28:45

because once the car goes in

28:47

the drink all the power turns off you can't open

28:49

the doors which seems

28:51

to me to be a

28:54

problem when you have an electric car and there's

28:56

no juice you might want to get out of

28:58

it at some point even if you're stuck on

29:00

the side of the road yeah so look I

29:02

told you when I when I when I drove my

29:04

friends Tesla for the for the first time and I

29:06

gave it a go I was actively disturbed by how

29:09

much you had to control everything through

29:11

a gigantic TV screen or computer monitor

29:13

touchscreen sitting in the middle of the

29:15

dash I'm like

29:18

but we've had we've had almost a hundred years of

29:20

cars we figured this out we know where to put

29:23

the things to control the things so we can keep

29:25

our eyes on the road and now

29:27

we're gonna ignore all of that and all

29:29

that muscle memory that we've all had from

29:31

driving for years and you're gonna put a

29:34

touchscreen that makes me look down and not

29:36

see the road anymore and everything

29:38

is controlled through that and there aren't backup controls

29:40

there's no longer any of the physical backup controls

29:42

at all it's just all done through that and

29:44

this is a good idea nobody

29:47

ever said it was a good idea Brian here's

29:49

the here's the point that I will tell you that

29:51

Elon is going to tell you the

29:54

touchscreen is there to entertain you while the

29:56

car drives itself because it is fully self-driving

29:58

oh right forgot remember Remember, Brian, you

30:00

don't have to look at the road anymore because

30:03

the car drives itself. Right. That's for

30:05

watching my porn with over with one minute of

30:07

blank video before. Gotcha. That one

30:09

minute is for you to be able to drive

30:11

straight, turn on the autopilot. And once you've turned

30:13

that on, then you can enjoy your porn after

30:15

that first minute. That all makes so much more

30:18

sense now. See? Now

30:20

here's the funny thing. Child's husband Jim

30:22

Breyer does not blame Tesla expressing their

30:25

support for electric vehicles and his friendship

30:27

with Elon Musk. This

30:30

incident has sparked a mix of blame

30:32

and conspiracy theories highlighting the complexities and

30:34

potential dangers of modern automotive technologies. Well,

30:37

I'm glad that child's husband doesn't blame him, but

30:39

I wonder how chow feels. Yeah,

30:41

I think he's probably pretty fucking pissed. Mm-hmm.

30:44

Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

30:48

Just found this one this morning. A

30:50

new report claims that Tesla paid $0

30:52

in federal income taxes over the past

30:54

five years despite earning billions in profit.

30:57

The analysis by Americans for Tax Fairness

30:59

states that Tesla received a $1 million

31:01

tax refund from 2018 to 2022, a

31:03

period when it made $4.4 billion in profits. Yeah,

31:11

that's a lot. People wonder, and

31:14

people wonder why everybody's so angry. Mm-hmm.

31:17

Yep. That's fucking ridiculous. I'm so

31:19

glad I divested myself. Mostly. Mostly.

31:23

Yeah. Yeah. The

31:25

report accuses Tesla of using accounting

31:27

schemes like shifting US earnings offshore

31:29

to avoid taxes while still benefiting

31:31

from government subsidies. Oh, well. Fuck

31:34

you. What billion-dollar company among us doesn't do these

31:36

sorts of things? Oh, yeah, that's right. All of

31:38

them. Apple is one of them, and

31:40

let's talk about Apple next. All

31:42

right. Surgeon to Cromwell

31:44

Hospital in London successfully incorporated Apple's

31:46

Vision Pro headset into two microsurgical

31:49

spine procedures, highlighting a groundbreaking approach

31:51

to medical care. I don't know

31:53

if it's a groundbreaking approach. It's

31:55

not exactly groundbreaking. Yeah. Yeah,

31:57

yeah. The equivalence of this has been going on for quite

31:59

some time. Yes, the device provided

32:02

by XX was worn by a scrub

32:05

nurse assisting the surgical team enhancing efficiency

32:07

and patient care quality. So

32:09

basically what she did was sit

32:11

there with the Apple Vision Pro on

32:13

and looked at manuals and checklists and

32:16

passed that along to the doctors, which

32:18

I think is a fine use of

32:20

the technology. Absolutely. Yeah, you know,

32:22

instead of having paper and things like that, you have

32:24

to check. The tests

32:27

in the OR are phenomenally

32:29

useful. So read the checklist

32:31

manifesto if you don't believe me. They've been on

32:34

those little, you know, carts

32:36

with a computer screen on it for quite

32:38

a long time now. So instead

32:40

of scaring at the computer screen, she had a thing strapped

32:42

to her head. Right, but then

32:44

she can actually look at what she needs to

32:46

look at instead of turning her head to look

32:48

at a computer screen. So there might be some

32:50

benefits to that. Right, as long as she's not

32:52

watching that porn. Exactly.

32:55

And I can even see, you know, if the resolution was

32:57

higher, the doctor has one of those things on and he's

32:59

like, you know, give me the man here. He's like, man

33:03

dash F spleen. Pull up

33:06

the man page for you, spleen, to figure out how

33:08

it works. Hold on, everybody.

33:10

I got an RTFM. Be right back. Yep.

33:15

Oh, man. And finally, Kickstarter's

33:18

ambitious pivot to blockchain driven by a

33:20

$100 million investment from

33:23

VC giant Andreessen Horowitz

33:26

ended in retreat and a leadership change. But

33:28

not at the top. Initially,

33:31

the crowdfunding platform announced plans in December 2021

33:33

to migrate to a blockchain

33:36

protocol aiming to integrate Web3

33:38

technologies into its operations, which

33:40

I'd like to remind everybody

33:42

Web3 technologies was bullshit.

33:45

And there was anything there besides put it

33:47

on the blockchain and somebody will profit, mainly

33:49

Andreessen Horowitz. I

33:51

love this. The move sparked significant

33:53

backlash from the platform's community who

33:56

raised concerns over environmental impacts and

33:58

the potential for cryptocurrency scale. following

34:02

a slowdown in implementation and

34:04

the subsequent departure of its

34:06

CEO, Kickstarter's new leadership shelved

34:08

the blockchain project, easing worries

34:10

among creators and investors. So

34:13

there you go. All

34:15

right. Well, speaking of the blockchain, the U.S.

34:17

government says IP infringement is all over NFT

34:19

marketplaces. I wonder how much this study costs.

34:21

And again, you could have just been listening

34:23

to our show. Okay.

34:25

So obviously the NFT bubble burst quite some time

34:28

ago, but the U.S. government has only just published

34:30

this report looking into the surrounding legal framework. The

34:32

study carried out jointly by the

34:34

U.S. Copyright Office and the Patent and

34:36

Trademark Office, following a 2022 request by

34:38

the Senate, determined that the current intellectual

34:40

property laws are robust enough to deal

34:42

with copyright or trademark infringement

34:45

in NFTs. What's lacking

34:47

is manpower. Again, we need the Internet

34:49

police. That's the

34:51

real problem. The agencies also determined that

34:53

although there are some benefits to the

34:55

tokens, trademark infringement and misuse is prevalent

34:58

on NFT marketplaces. The

35:00

report notes that the decentralized nature of

35:02

NFTs and blockchain networks complicate any attempt

35:04

to enforce trademarks. The very

35:06

reason we're supposed to be using these is

35:08

because theoretically we are able to enforce our

35:10

trademarks. Yep. Yeah. So it just

35:12

goes on from there, of course, all

35:15

the different problems that we've known that

35:17

these platforms have protocols, but they're not

35:19

across all platforms. There's no cross-platform mechanisms

35:21

to allow trademark owners to identify or

35:24

take down infringing content, settling trademark-related disputes

35:26

involving blockchain-based domain names, or confirm that

35:28

sellers own the trademark rights associated with

35:30

the assets they offer. It's

35:34

all just a mess. So basically

35:37

the report comes out and says it is

35:39

all just a mess, but they still recommend

35:41

in their report to Congress that the current

35:43

use of NFTs doesn't require changes to current

35:45

IP laws, probably because there won't be NFTs

35:47

pretty soon. They've also

35:49

noted that incorporating NFTs into the registration

35:51

and recording practices is not necessarily

35:53

advisable at this time. In other words, they don't

35:55

think they should have to deal with NFTs either.

35:58

If you wanted NFT, go to co-trendy.com. That's right. Alright,

36:02

Blue Sky is back in the news here. They

36:05

got Aaron Roderix, who is

36:07

basically leading Twitter's Trust in Safety team to be

36:09

its new head of Trust in Safety. I swear

36:11

to God I read that and I thought it

36:13

was Aaron Rodgers and I'm like, man, I know

36:15

he's having a hard time getting back in the

36:17

quarterbacking game, but... I know. Good

36:20

Lord. That is a pivot. That is

36:22

a serious pivot. So,

36:24

no, Aaron Roderix was fired by Elon

36:27

after the Twitter takeover. So we'll see

36:29

what Blue Sky is going to do.

36:32

Oh wait, here's what they're going to

36:34

do. Blue Sky is

36:36

revolutionizing online moderation by open

36:38

sourcing a tool called Ozone

36:40

for collaborative content review and

36:42

labeling. So Aaron is basically

36:44

going to be watching

36:46

people do his job for him, I guess.

36:48

Yeah, let me just get this straight. Let's

36:50

just break this down for one quick second

36:52

here, Jason. Break it down. Yep.

36:55

Moderation is hard. We

36:57

don't want to do it. We're

36:59

going to outsource it and then charge you

37:01

for it so you can subscribe to the

37:03

moderation tools that you would prefer. Well,

37:07

they're open sourcing it, Brian. They're

37:09

open sourcing it. Yeah.

37:12

Okay. Thanks a fucking lot. By the way, I don't know if

37:14

you saw this. I saw it. I

37:16

haven't followed up on it because I haven't

37:18

really cared that much. Elon says he's going

37:21

to be open sourcing Grok, the AI platform

37:23

that is on Twitter right now,

37:26

right? Mm-hmm. What

37:28

would I get every time I go into Twitter? An ad that

37:30

says sign up for Twitter plus, plus, plus so

37:32

you can get access to Grok. Got

37:35

to get the money while you still can. I know. I

37:38

know. So I don't know what's going on over

37:40

at Blue Sky. I keep checking it every now

37:42

and again. It's kind of interesting. Sometimes I get

37:44

some stories out of it. But for the most

37:46

part, it's a dead man walking because the name

37:49

sucks. It is the worst name out

37:51

of any of it. I just never remember it's even

37:53

there. Yeah. It's

37:56

just kind of there. I

37:58

still... I'd hardly... look at any

38:00

of this stuff anymore but I'll look

38:02

at threads and I'll look at X I'll still look

38:05

at X over blue sky just because I still have

38:07

a good list of people

38:09

that I follow on X and not all of them have

38:11

left yet. Yeah, well only 30% of left.

38:13

Only 30%. That actually

38:15

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I have a release date for my

42:41

new project and I'm very excited. A

42:43

daily news show? No it's

42:45

not a goddamn daily news show. Get off my

42:47

back. Never gets old for me to say that.

42:50

I know it doesn't. I know it. So

42:53

there's a new podcast coming called Shmacters

42:55

with James Marsters and Mark Devine. People

42:58

may know James Marsters. He was in Buffy the Vampire

43:00

Slayer and he played Spike. And

43:02

Mark was in Sex and the City and

43:05

Masters of Disguise and a bunch of other stuff. They're

43:07

both lifelong actors. So

43:10

we got together and we put a show

43:12

together where basically it's a Q&A

43:14

but with comedy. It's fairly funny. It's

43:17

launching on a week from today.

43:50

I believe it would be the 21st, Thursday

43:52

the 21st. You

43:55

can go subscribe right now. The link will be in

43:57

the show notes. Go check it out. Preferably subscribe with

43:59

Apple Podcasts. You can subscribe anywhere else, but if

44:01

you subscribe with Apple Podcasts, you'll be doing me a favor.

44:03

You're trying to get it up in the charts. You

44:05

know what I'm saying? So, I don't know. It's

44:08

a fun project. We're going to keep doing it

44:10

if people listen. So... Very cool.

44:13

And which I hope they do, because it really is kind of cool

44:15

working with these guys. We're having fun doing it. So... That's

44:17

great. Hope you like it. I hope

44:19

it goes well. Everybody go listen. And

44:21

somebody feed Phil season seven has come out.

44:23

I've watched, I think, half of them now.

44:26

Just as good as always, Jason. Puts a smile

44:28

on my face even after doing shows like this.

44:31

Did you get caught up on the missing seasons that

44:33

you were behind on? Yes. I

44:35

finally got caught up on all the missing seasons and we're on to the new one.

44:38

Okay. See, what I'm thinking

44:40

is I'm just going to jump to season

44:42

seven and then every now and again Netflix

44:44

will remind me that I have shows I

44:46

haven't watched and it'll be like a surprise.

44:48

Tweets! Yeah. That's very nice.

44:50

That's a good way to do it. But yeah, there's... I

44:53

mean, the show is exactly the same. It's

44:55

fantastic. Can't complain. I

44:57

have another reason for you to hate Discovery, which is

44:59

coming very soon for its final season that you're not

45:01

going to watch. I'm

45:04

still going to get you a disco t-shirt for

45:06

your birthday. Now please, please do, please do. I

45:08

am going to watch the last season. Alright. Because

45:10

I'm invested. Look, I watched them... After

45:12

you made me watch the last fucking season, which

45:16

was terrible because you said it actually

45:18

got better, which it didn't, now

45:20

I'm invested to see this thing through to the

45:22

end. Sorry. Alright. You

45:26

will not be seeing Jonathan Frakes, unfortunately.

45:28

Because he's smart. He doesn't want his

45:30

reputation tainted by that travesty

45:32

of a Trekian show. Now

45:35

they're stretching this headline a little bit to say

45:37

this, but Discovery will be the first

45:39

Star Trek show in 50 years to

45:41

end without a Jonathan Frakes appearance. Yeah,

45:44

they really are stretching out. I

45:46

mean, fair with the original Star Trek going

45:48

off the air well over 50 years ago.

45:50

That's true. The first show since

45:53

Star Trek Next Generation came out, not

45:56

including the shows that haven't ended yet,

45:58

which includes... And

46:00

very of it, including Prodigy and Strange

46:02

New Worlds which he may or may

46:05

not show up on. Probably not. Ah,

46:07

but yeah, though, I'm. The you

46:09

know that that's the thing midst it's a nothing

46:11

story because they need the paddles stuff because as

46:13

bland not much going on the site flag us

46:15

so they ago. Are they talking about

46:17

a Jonathan Freaks appearance in general? Or

46:19

just in the final episode? Just in

46:21

a final episode? Apparently. Okay because

46:23

I gotta go back and room and I

46:26

don't remember maybe know and I don't advocate

46:28

general not a demographic. My general yes he

46:30

was in the final episode famously of Enterprise

46:32

which didn't really work but I see what

46:34

they were trying to do but I think

46:37

it was just a he just appear to

46:39

Deep Space nine. Yeah, think

46:41

so too. and actually wasn't him Ibs

46:43

illness transporter clone brother Thomas. Oh

46:46

look, it's you. Ah, Now

46:50

I need to go back. I still have never watched

46:52

Enterprise. I. Can only not trick

46:54

series below us. You'll like it

46:56

slightly more than Discovery. Okay

46:58

well that's something that's got to politics

47:01

is hop. I know that's I am

47:03

thinking that's the only reason the one

47:05

amp I'm excited. So.

47:08

Bad. I didn't mind at a price, but

47:10

it's a. It's. Better The

47:13

Prodigy. My As

47:15

govern. Without it may

47:17

be some of the animated stuff and nobody's

47:19

ever watched. Remember when we used to play

47:21

others trivia games on the I phone? Yes

47:24

there was one that had Star Trek trivia

47:26

that you would just always kill me on

47:28

because you you new Dell The Enterprise Since

47:30

I that's how randomly guessing what it was

47:33

an Enterprise got it's a I have no

47:35

fucking idea. Cups

47:39

and do tasks. Brain.

47:42

I've been trying out Pose this week.

47:45

Okay, I vaguely remember her name late

47:47

Nine These are alternative rock female singer.

47:50

None at her. Not her. Now Pope is

47:52

the ah the ai tool that is been

47:54

put out by the core of people because

47:56

nobody has the quarter anymore because if he

47:58

said he I killed. Square as well as

48:01

questions to trust me I'd much rather

48:03

ask the a told them the fucking

48:05

idiots on the internet. Yeah, yeah, especially

48:07

Quora. Oh My. God. I

48:10

got I got tagged as a a podcast.

48:13

Expert in the questions I got were

48:15

just so terrible. Hump Dislikes? you guys really?

48:17

Just to have never heard of Google?

48:19

Have you? Period at all? What

48:22

The? Microphone? Get

48:25

was is where we need. Ask Jeeves back.

48:27

Ah jeez, I miss Estes. City

48:30

Service, The Great logo, the. South.

48:33

A A Po. It's. A

48:35

Dead I remember when it started I'm like,

48:37

okay, I just I didn't understand the whole

48:40

thing with different models. Know that stuff? Suppose

48:42

basically an interface to all these different models

48:44

and you can subscribe to Po and get

48:46

access to the different models instead subscribing individually

48:48

to the others in a rule them All

48:50

Up has in. The really nice thing is

48:52

it has a desktop app for the mack.

48:54

The like is keep open all the time

48:56

and bounce between the different models. I

49:00

love it except for

49:02

one problem. It's.

49:05

Backed by Andreessen Horowitz, which

49:07

makes me feel really fucking

49:09

dirty. Makes me

49:11

really dirty and that's why I haven't

49:13

paid them yet. I'm on the fence

49:15

and. Yeah. The

49:18

new Anthropic models are the Claude models

49:20

that they released last week. Way

49:22

better than chatty be t in my

49:24

opinion. Way better. Okay so

49:26

it's like do I go to Anthropic

49:29

and pay them than half? Go here

49:31

and cancel that to cancel mon. Just

49:33

subscribed to Power Button. I'm given those

49:35

motherfuckers my money which makes me feel

49:37

school, another kitten, your money somehow some

49:39

way. Anyways, I don't know. I am

49:42

pretty good at avoiding Andreessen Horowitz joints.

49:44

the but I'll see and then my

49:46

dad the cave on this and because

49:48

it it is easier in a nicer.

49:51

Than movie let me know file I

49:53

still I'm just a i have a

49:55

chance to be T subscription and that's

49:57

about it. My hardly ever use of

49:59

unfortunately cause. I just don't. We. Should

50:01

go download this and check it out because

50:03

you did the free version for you. Get

50:05

a lot of free stuff in there look

50:07

at and all the stuff is it that

50:09

would be good for you as a shout

50:11

outs and artwork for season for that exactly.

50:14

It's is a one stop shop and if

50:16

you don't pay them then I'll have more

50:18

of a better eye on the better with

50:20

exactly Well Apple is just basically kowtowing to

50:22

the with this point because the you actually

50:24

defines the has significant finds that arches coffee

50:26

grounds anymore. So ah, days after Apple started

50:28

allowing Ios users in the Edu third party

50:30

app stores. The company is now announce more

50:32

changes related to how developers can distribute their

50:35

apps bus significantly. Those who meet certain criteria

50:37

will be able let users download apps from

50:39

their website. The web distribution option which will

50:41

be available the spring will effectively let developers

50:44

bypass the app ecosystem entirely for their own

50:46

apps. Now they are some rules to this

50:48

which kind of makes sense to me. They've

50:50

got of opt into the new app store

50:52

rules obviously that see them pay a fee

50:55

for each user install after certain thresholds and

50:57

be an Apple Developer Program member that's been

50:59

in good standing for at least. Two Years.

51:01

This is an attempt to basically not have

51:03

the Apple environment turn into Android with shit

51:05

everywhere that just fucks up your system and

51:07

steals your data so makes sense to me

51:10

as seems like a good move on my

51:12

I. I would like to think it's going

51:14

to transfer out of the you but it

51:16

probably won't sell. Will say. Yeah,

51:19

they're gonna hang on to that when as long as they can.

51:21

Now you know. And I did he

51:23

think it about this. Imagine a world where

51:25

we have to deal with all the shit

51:28

on a desktop computers. It's like come on,

51:30

Netflix! Make it

51:32

like are desktop computers and everybody will be

51:34

happy. And

51:36

about how I don't know Ten to fifteen

51:38

years too late air B and B is

51:40

made. A new rule of to their hosts

51:42

please stop filming the guess. Finally,

51:47

The yeah, I don't know I took this

51:49

long but they've announced new privacy policy. His

51:51

policies that entirely banned the use of indoor

51:53

camera some previous with the company lamp to

51:55

keep cameras and communal spaces the band them

51:57

in areas like bedrooms, bathrooms, They

51:59

should. The posts were technically supposed to

52:01

disclose any cameras in the rental location, but

52:04

this removes any ambiguity about it. So yeah,

52:06

you're just not supposed to have them. Also

52:09

limiting outdoor ones. They can't point at things

52:11

like outdoor showers or saunas or anything like

52:13

that. If you've got that as well, they

52:15

can also use doorbell cameras and noise decibel

52:17

monitors. However, the noise decibel monitors

52:20

require a disclosure and can only access

52:22

decibel levels, not record or send sounds.

52:25

And these can only be placed in common areas as well.

52:28

Now who exactly is going around and policing

52:30

this? This is definitely going to be a self-police thing

52:32

where somebody stays somewhere and says, hey, I saw a

52:34

camera. And then the host says, no, you didn't. And

52:38

then Airbnb is going to do what exactly? Well,

52:40

yeah. And there's this

52:42

other route that I'm thinking is, well, they

52:44

refund you your money and get you a

52:46

new listing. So what if

52:49

I get a really nice Airbnb? I

52:51

go there, I stay for a couple of days,

52:53

and then I quote unquote find a camera

52:56

that I take pictures of and send to

52:58

Airbnb and say, hey, these guys have cameras.

53:00

I want to refund. And then I

53:02

put the camera back in my bag and take it with me to the

53:04

next Airbnb and do the same thing over and over again. See,

53:07

I love this, Jason, because you have those kind

53:09

of nefarious things like just right at your brain's

53:11

fingertips. Always. That's

53:13

how I live. Come on. It's got to

53:15

hurt. No, it

53:18

just makes life more interesting, slightly more

53:20

fun. Yeah. Again,

53:22

it all comes down to policing. It's a

53:24

great rule, and I like it, and it

53:26

makes sense. And obviously, you shouldn't be doing that sort

53:28

of thing because it's fucking creepy. But

53:31

yeah, good luck. Good luck

53:33

with this. Yeah. And

53:36

if you're worried about people trashing your shit, don't rent it on

53:38

Airbnb. Yes. Easy

53:40

enough. Done. Done

53:43

and done. So Apple is planning

53:45

to add hearing aid capabilities to its AirPods

53:47

Pro earbuds with the upcoming iOS 18 software

53:50

update this fall. What?

53:53

Exactly. I mean, this is

53:55

a major thing because I think My

53:58

roommate's grandmother, my roommate's mother, The

54:00

For: will Not go get hearing Aids Period.

54:02

There's something about old people in hearing aids.

54:04

I don't know what it is. If somebody

54:06

knows, please tell me how we can figure

54:08

this out because I know a lot of

54:10

people with older parents who can not get

54:12

them to get fucking hearing aids in a

54:14

food or a damn thing. It's the same

54:16

reason I resisted getting reading glasses for like

54:18

almost the year. It's just a want to

54:20

admit you're getting author. says. Ninety

54:23

Four Come on This Sigma

54:25

Hearing your sit. There.

54:27

While. Either

54:29

way I think we could probably get by with

54:31

given are some some air pods and say here

54:33

here you go. Are they say the

54:35

current air pods are already provide hearing assistance

54:38

on par with ten thousand dollar hearing aids

54:40

and quiet settings as the serving up over

54:42

nine thousand dollars. A

54:44

Seriously think they get any

54:46

cheaper? I'm looking forward

54:48

to. This is a good use. Good know, I

54:50

think it's great. I think that's exactly what this

54:52

technology should end up are being being used for,

54:55

as as if it's good enough to do it

54:57

if it's on par with the models that are

54:59

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55:37

Odds I'm sad personal news for me

55:39

and I'm for quite a few people

55:42

deserve and I was on my vacation

55:44

and gotta got a call from my

55:46

business partner. Have some bad news A

55:48

close personal friend of mine are World

55:50

Party frontman prolonged your passed away at

55:53

the age of sixty six over the

55:55

weekend. He was

55:57

a. Pretty. amazing guy like

55:59

either It was rough enough

56:01

when we lost Sinead, but Sinead's very

56:03

tied in with Carl Wallinger in My World.

56:08

And she actually sang on his first album. He wrote

56:10

some of the songs for her first album. They knew

56:12

each other very well. So

56:15

now to lose Carl as well in a space

56:17

of less than a year, Jesus fucking Christ. Anyways,

56:20

he's an amazing talent. I

56:22

always used to say he had more talent in

56:25

one fingertip than most musicians have in their entire

56:27

lives. Go listen to some

56:30

World Party stuff. It's fantastic. You will

56:32

be missed, bro. Until next time, I'm Brian Schillmister. Very

56:35

sorry for your loss, man. Very sorry. I'm

56:37

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