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Grumpy, Old Gigs a weekly talk show

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hosted by Brian Shaw Meister and Jason

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Difilipo discussing the finer points of what

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went wrong on the internet and who's

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to blame. Welcome

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to grumpy old Geese and isn't available

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and I'm branch almost certainly heavily congested

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branch of extra ah Canada get the

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better of yeah kids, I think it's

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more of all. Oh that's right. the

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disease factories. Yes yes. little disease carrier

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bringing things home every single day times

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look as make me stronger. That's right,

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I'd have become strong enough at this

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point. I'm good at okay. I've

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been a follow up here that a I

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generated George Carlin comedy special that everybody hated

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and as being sued are. Not.

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Done by a I've written by

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humans Really? Yeah. Initial

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reports from Npr said the air was

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trained on thousands of hours Carlin routines

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to create the material, but dude z

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the channel that you've ridden posted the

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video was later approach by the New

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York Times in their spokesperson said the

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video was completely written by Chad Colting.

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One of the channels hopes are both

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was comedian Will Sasso and writer Culkin

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are named in the suit so well,

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not a I, I sense publicity play

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her, slap on a eye on that

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thing and everybody's gonna pay attention right

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now now. They should have just made

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it funny that. Would help that really what

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L D F have been you know you

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can get publicity but quality not so much.

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Yeah. Yeah, this is not. This is

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not good for them. Not. This is what

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you get when when you mess with George

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Carlin even from the grave he'll come back

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at you. That's right, I was others when

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there's a pretty cause a little another or

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going to follow through and talking about the

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Ai car and that the a try to

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get publicity a universe creep ease. We've been

1:45

talking about Eve and how they seem to

1:47

be on the wane in popularity. And.

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Dot you know he bikes were really big

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during coven they seem did the you know

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can have started winning a bit since I

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think everybody on the planet owns like two

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or three at this point. Well,

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this is a new study out of Germany

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that suggests that people that get cargo bikes,

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electric cargo bikes versus regular e-bikes, are much

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more likely to get rid of their cars.

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Well, you can do your shopping with us. Yeah,

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that's the upside. It

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turns into an actual useful vehicle, not just

2:17

something out for a daily meander down the

2:19

bike path. Well, as with most things, California

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and Santa Monica in particular seems to be

2:24

way ahead of the curve on this because

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I remember back in the day

2:28

going to the farmer's market every Sunday in

2:30

Santa Monica. And of course, there are a bunch of people that pulled

2:32

up in these. The thing is

2:34

infrastructure. Where's the parking? Where's

2:38

all the bike locks? Where's

2:40

the roads that I would feel safe riding this

2:42

bike down? Yeah, I mean, it wasn't

2:44

the same as any bike, really, but... Well, it's

2:47

a bit wider. Not

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really, though. Well, when you slap the things on the

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side, Jason. Yeah, they're just about as wide as your

2:53

ass. I had one of the electric cargo e-bikes for

2:55

a little bit. They're your

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ass. Yeah, well, you know. Even

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my svelte little tiny butt. It

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wasn't that much bigger when you had it all

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put together. I mean, not by... It

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didn't get wider than the handlebars, let's just say that. So

3:10

that part wasn't really a thing. They

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are heavier, for sure, so you can't put them in

3:15

your car. So they're definitely made for going from home

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to the place and back. And

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God forbid you have stairs. I think the one that I

3:22

had weighed about 90 pounds. Yeah,

3:24

that's hefty. Yeah, so that's

3:27

garage to farmer's market and back.

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Yeah. If I were still living in Santa Monica,

3:32

I would totally get one of these. Yeah. I

3:34

could do everything. I wouldn't even need a car. Nope.

3:38

You wouldn't. I'd love to get to my

3:40

mom's, anywhere that wasn't Santa Monica. But other than that, yeah.

3:42

Oh, you could take public transfer. Oh, wait. Oh,

3:45

yeah. You could do that. So

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this was, like I said, it was a

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German program. So they actually surveyed about

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2,386. So

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that's actually not about that

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they surveyed 2,000. Well, it's

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a German survey, Jason. They're going

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to give you the exact number of people that they

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surveyed, and they also probably went in and built all

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the infrastructure for this so it would actually work because

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they're German. Yes, I like this. A

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bit more than 18% of survey respondents said

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they either got rid of their car or decided

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buying against a car. In 80%

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of those people said they did so for

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environmental reasons. Nearly 49%

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said they ditched a car for financial reasons.

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42% because they had no interest in driving a car and

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about 10% due to the safety risks

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of driving a car. This

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was the real shocker. The average age of the

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study's participants was 41.6 years old. All

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right. Well, I think the shocker

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there is 80% of the people said they did so

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for environmental reasons, but I have heard that the environmental

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movement is very big in Germany. They

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want to make sure that the planet's nice so they can take it

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over again. Take it over again. Nobody wants

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to take over a shithole. In

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the news. Now

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Brian, we have talked a couple times

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about how Gizmodo is basically run by

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an alternate universe us. Yes. I

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love this latest article. Thank God

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FTX won't be coming back. So

5:13

it is official that FTX is

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dead, dead, dead. I'm convinced that

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Gizmodo has run a headline writing

5:19

AI on our shows. I

5:21

swear. They have to have.

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But the real kicker was this

5:25

one paragraph. FTX was a

5:27

walking disaster of a company and any attempt

5:30

to rehabilitate its image would be the equivalent

5:32

of trying to turn a flaming dumpster into

5:34

a functional commuter vehicle. Best

5:36

to let it die a natural death and

5:38

have it serve as a warning to would-be

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crypto criminals to never try anything remotely resembling

5:42

this scheme again. Bravo. Sadly,

5:45

nobody's going to listen and we will have more of

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them. Yes. Yes.

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Oh, of course. Crypto ain't dead, brother. This

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guy might be dead soon, though. Elon

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Musk has actually got his Neuralink

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company to insert a chip. into

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a human. How is

6:02

that even possible? It

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was approved by the FDA. So

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they said, the FDA can't approve

6:09

anything, but they approve this. As

6:13

we just found out that all the cough medicine

6:15

that we've been taking our entire lives has turned

6:17

out to be absolutely useless in snake oil. So

6:20

now they're just letting him shove chips into people's heads.

6:23

Yeah, this guy's going to die. Yeah,

6:25

yeah, definitely. He's fucked. And

6:27

we're fucked if we let Elon start

6:29

putting chips in people's heads. Because

6:32

he can't get a self-driving car to work. How's

6:34

he going to get a robot human? Did the

6:36

lawsuit about all the monkeys that they killed and

6:39

then lied about how many of them died,

6:41

has that even been resolved yet? I

6:43

just don't understand how this happens. I

6:45

know. It's a strange

6:47

time to be alive. I mean, I'm sure the person

6:49

was like, last

6:51

resort, life was

6:54

crap. There was no quality

6:56

of life. Things were totally screwed for this guy.

6:58

Okay, sure. Let's do this. But

7:01

back in the day, you would have to go

7:03

off to some private island and do this. Or

7:05

Mexico. Yeah, or Mexico, Thailand. I

7:07

guess now we do it here. Okay. Yeah.

7:11

Hey, man. We've been saying since this show started, we

7:13

live in the third world country, so we'll bring it on. Yeah.

7:15

And yeah, there were some Senate hearings

7:17

this week. And Linda

7:20

Yaccarino made the news because

7:22

she threw out some interesting

7:24

statistics. She said

7:26

that less than 1% of Ex's users were teens ages 13 to 17. Bullshit.

7:36

Yeah, absolute bullshit. But here's the

7:38

real twist to it. She

7:40

is calling Ex a 14-month-old company,

7:43

completely forgetting the fact ... Not

7:45

forgetting. This is a ...

7:48

I don't even know what's a ... It is

7:50

a revisionist history, but I think it even goes

7:52

... It's like revisionist history plus plus. Yeah,

7:56

saying that Ex is only 14 months old and

7:58

Twitter never existed. all new

8:00

now, even though they live on

8:02

the carcass of the dead under the- She is

8:04

aware that companies exist before you start working there,

8:07

right? No, I don't think so. No,

8:09

I don't think so. Look at this brand

8:11

new place I've walked into. So yeah, that

8:13

was just a funny bit for me. She's

8:16

actually toeing the line with a straight face to

8:18

fucking Senate. The ex is only 14

8:20

months old. I

8:24

don't know if you watched any of the proceedings. I just watched

8:26

a little bit of it. It's

8:28

better than it has been. I'll

8:30

put it that way. Most of

8:32

the senators actually know what this stuff is now,

8:35

and most of the senators kind of stayed

8:37

to the point and asked good questions. Of

8:40

course, there were idiots like Tom Cotton and

8:42

some of the other senators that just

8:44

asked really stupid things bordering on racist, and

8:46

definitely a lot of people trying to score

8:48

political points instead of staying to the task

8:51

at hand. But overall, a lot

8:53

better than it ever used to be. We

8:57

had the CEOs of Meta, Snap, Discord, X,

8:59

and TikTok. Somebody badgered

9:01

Mark Zuckerberg into turning around and facing a bunch

9:03

of people. The room was filled with parents of

9:05

children that had been victims of online exploitation, and

9:08

he apologized to them. I

9:10

didn't realize- The canned apology that

9:12

was really 10 seconds later. Nothing

9:16

will fucking change, of course. I didn't

9:18

realize that Discord was considered such a big thing

9:20

at this point, but it is now. It's

9:23

up there with everybody else. The

9:27

senators really just kind of pointed out every

9:29

single one of your platforms has been used

9:31

and you have no moderation. You don't bother

9:33

with moderation. You pay lip service to moderation.

9:36

Fix it, and they won't. No,

9:39

of course not. No, it's not in anybody's best

9:41

interest to have this fixed. It's

9:43

not- Just the people. Well-

9:46

But fuck the people. You've got to

9:48

turn the whole system off. You just really have to

9:50

turn the whole system off. I've

9:52

done that now. It's pretty nice. Yeah,

9:55

no more social on the phone. I just

9:57

have it on one iPad. Right.

10:00

for that time of day when I kick back at

10:02

night and just, you know, want to scramble my

10:04

brain before I go to bed. It's

10:07

perfect. Actually, a

10:09

platformer that just came out, Casey Newton's

10:11

newsletter, has a really good take on

10:13

this and talks about some

10:16

possible solutions to it that they'll never do.

10:20

I would like to say that the questioning of

10:22

the TikTok CEO is not borderline racist. That was

10:24

100% racist. Okay.

10:26

It actually really fucking was. It

10:28

was. Singapore, China. Yeah.

10:31

He's from China? He's from fucking Apple. Yeah.

10:35

He remarkably kept his shit together pretty well. Not

10:37

that I want to give TikTok any points, particularly

10:39

given the next story. Okay. And

10:41

here we go. This was the big

10:43

news inside my household. Universal Music Group

10:45

warns it will pull songs from TikTok after

10:47

deal expiration and it didn't just warn they

10:50

did it. So they started pulling the catalogs

10:52

of the performers they represent, including Taylor Swift,

10:54

Drake and Billie Eilish, The Weeknd and others.

10:57

They are no longer available on TikTok

10:59

and any videos featuring the music will

11:01

be muted going forward forcing creators to

11:03

replace the tracks with options from other music

11:05

labels or amateurs or whatever the fuck they

11:07

want. That isn't UMG. Yeah.

11:11

I mean, you know, basically just

11:13

talks melted down. TikTok basically said,

11:15

we don't need you. And

11:17

Universal said, well, you're using us. So you need

11:19

to pay us for it. And

11:21

TikTok said, nah. And then UMG

11:23

said, okay, I'm taking my toys and going home. That's

11:27

kind of how it played out. All

11:29

right. I'd love to have been a

11:31

fly on the wall in your house for that. Oh, boy.

11:33

It's been a stressful week. Oh, man.

11:35

Now, can you get your wife pointed at

11:37

Spotify next? Can you just have her

11:39

go- Spotify pays. Not

11:42

much. No, not much, but they pay. That's

11:44

the argument. It's like we are just trying to

11:46

get anything we can from these people because they

11:48

don't want to pay us anything. Yeah.

11:51

There's a good article over at Bloomberg called

11:53

TikTok is thrown into disarray is music from

11:55

Taylor Swift Aria Grande disappeared, blah, blah, blah.

11:58

Yes, we know that this column is. usually

12:00

about podcasting and things and the like so

12:02

but it sometimes they throw in the the

12:04

audio side of social media which they did

12:06

today and I really like this

12:09

because they actually highlight some of the

12:11

artists that are stuck in the middle of the

12:13

fight. Yeah it sucks for the artists. It really

12:15

does. Yeah this with

12:17

this one artist Cody Fry he has a

12:19

really good quote. I feel like I'm a

12:21

person standing between two colliding planets it's just

12:24

hard as a hard-working artist to see a

12:26

budding viral trend with one of your songs

12:28

that's really awesome in its infancy just like

12:30

that get crushed by multi-billion dollar corporations. Yeah

12:32

and then you know TikTok's argument is that

12:34

that's the point that's why you should have

12:36

your music up here and we should pay

12:38

you nothing for it because you're breaking artists.

12:41

It's promotion. How many times

12:43

have we heard that argument Jason?

12:45

Yeah. It's promotion. Usually we shouldn't

12:47

get paid because you're promoting yourself and you're gaining

12:49

more fans. Universal's point is

12:51

no you're making billions of dollars you're using

12:53

our content you need to pay us not

12:56

a lot but you need to pay us

12:59

and Universal's argument really is just we got to

13:01

hold the line here because we need to get

13:03

paid for this stuff. So sorry

13:05

sorry people that had viral things breaking

13:07

right now promotion isn't gonna

13:09

be enough you need to get paid.

13:11

Yeah anyways whatever it's too big

13:13

conglomerates fighting each other it's hard to feel sympathetic

13:16

either way. Yeah yeah I don't feel so

13:18

I feel some sympathy to the artist is the

13:20

only place I feel this. I'm sympathy to my

13:22

mortgage payments so. Of

13:25

course of course. At the end

13:27

though Noah Kahan I

13:29

don't I've never heard of him but

13:31

apparently he's a Grammy nominee for best new artist and

13:35

this is this is interesting he

13:37

said to no one his new song is going to be available

13:39

since it won't be on tiktok anymore he

13:41

explained people should pre-save it on their

13:43

preferred streaming app. How do you pre-save

13:46

it? Pre-save is the new

13:48

pre-order okay you can go

13:50

into Spotify and people track these things it's

13:52

it's like it's it's almost like the

13:54

new charts that's

13:57

all it really does is if you're following

13:59

an artist you go to Spotify or Apple Music

14:01

or whatever, you can basically as

14:03

an artist, you can put in, you know, I'm going

14:05

to release this track on next Tuesday. People

14:08

go in, click on pre-save, and

14:10

when it comes out on Tuesday, you get notified

14:12

and there you go. That's

14:14

all it is. It's dumb. Shows

14:17

you how much I know about streaming apps. You

14:20

know, this is one of those things where we've

14:22

lost the gatekeepers, the traditional gatekeepers like radio and

14:24

music and things like that. So like, how do

14:27

you know when stuff is out anymore? We don't.

14:30

So we're trying to find ways to do that. Yeah.

14:33

I mean, look, we even talk about that on Amazon.

14:35

We follow authors on Amazon and, you

14:37

know, we can miss two books because they never notify us.

14:40

Yeah, nine times out of ten, they never even send the damn

14:42

mailing. I know. Even though I

14:44

have the little checkbox marked, notify me

14:46

of upcoming releases. Nothing. Well, you know,

14:48

it's not Amazon. Amazon probably says, well,

14:50

that's up to the, you know, it's up

14:52

to the publisher to use a tool that we have

14:55

to send out a notification or something, I'm sure. Yeah.

14:58

And as we know, publishers don't do

15:00

shit. Yes, exactly. Sucks to be a

15:02

creator. It does. Although

15:04

I love this, music piracy is back

15:07

in a big way, especially from YouTube.

15:09

Of course. Visits to music

15:11

piracy websites went up more than 13% last

15:13

year, says a new report. The majority of

15:15

those visits were to sites that allow users

15:17

to download the audio from YouTube URLs. So

15:21

this is just people who don't know how to go get

15:23

set app, like we say very often,

15:25

and get the downy app and

15:28

just download it straight to your computer. You don't need a

15:30

website to do it or view source

15:32

and find the source URL and just go load that

15:34

and save it because people are lazy

15:36

and dumb. But anyway, so

15:39

people are downloading music again, which

15:41

is interesting since all these platforms

15:43

make it extraordinarily hard to put

15:45

downloaded music on your device. Yes,

15:48

it does. I mean,

15:50

I've got, I've been trying to do this with

15:52

my library, with my iPhone, with

15:54

Apple, and Apple Music, even

15:57

though I saved it and I have all the files locally and

15:59

transferring them to my phone is just, it

16:03

works like a third of the time. It's painful.

16:05

It is painful. It is absolutely

16:08

painful. For a device that

16:10

started off as basically just a music player. Exactly.

16:13

You cannot do it. That

16:16

was the point of the thing. They have stripped

16:18

it down so much that everything is reliant on

16:21

streaming because it promotes them. A

16:23

music player, a phone, a

16:25

music player, a phone.

16:28

Not anymore, man. Internet communicator. Don't forget the

16:30

internet communicator. Oh yeah, sorry. Internet

16:33

communicator. Yeah, yeah, not anymore. Yep, all gone

16:35

now. I wonder if we're going to

16:37

see an uptick in, as the kids kind

16:39

of start to blow back a bit on streaming

16:42

and get nostalgia. I mean, we've seen the rise in

16:44

vinyl sales, obviously. I wonder if we're going to see

16:46

a rise in MP3 players

16:49

and digital device players. I was tempted to get one

16:51

a while back just for my car, so it would

16:53

make it easier. Because they're cheap now.

16:57

The real nice thing is you can throw in a micro SD card for

16:59

like, you know, two terabytes

17:02

now. I think the micro SD cards have finally

17:04

gotten up too. Yeah, for like five cents. It's

17:06

ridiculous. Yeah, and just throw that

17:08

thing in and keep your playlist like you

17:11

used to do. That would be nice. I've

17:13

been tempted. Been tempted. Comcast

17:15

finally got smacked down for its claims that

17:17

it has a 10G network. Grumpy

17:19

old geek's the first 100G podcast. Exactly.

17:24

So, yeah, they finally have to stop saying that

17:26

their network is 10G. I

17:29

hope they fired whoever came up with that idea in

17:31

the marketing department. Nobody gets fired, Brian. I don't know.

17:34

Promoted. Nobody gets fired. Yep,

17:36

that's it. Exactly. They're

17:38

now CEO. CEO++. Oh,

17:41

this one's interesting. 23andMe has lost

17:44

billions, almost worthless now. Good.

17:46

Yeah, since all their... They deserve it. All of

17:49

our data has been hacked and sent out to

17:51

the wild. So, yeah. And

17:55

it's funny. This is Anne Wojcicki's company.

17:58

Her sister... Yep. to be head

18:00

of YouTube for mom as a superstar.

18:04

But this one, yeah, this is,

18:06

you know, I'd be really interested to

18:08

be around the Thanksgiving table on this

18:10

one. You know, Susan, how you

18:12

doing? I run YouTube. We make 10 gazillion

18:14

dollars a month. And how you

18:16

doing? Well, I suck people's DNA and I lost all

18:18

the money. Shit.

18:21

Yeah. I mean, you know, a

18:23

great idea for a company. Shame they didn't

18:26

pay any attention to security. Yeah.

18:30

And apparently, too, I

18:32

guess the raw data was stolen. Oh,

18:34

yeah. Not just the basics. Yep. Yep.

18:38

That was my biggest nightmare was that that would happen.

18:40

That's why I would never do one of these things. Yeah.

18:43

Just wouldn't because who the fuck knows? Yeah.

18:46

Who knows? I mean, they've

18:48

got the building blocks of people. It

18:51

doesn't, I don't lose any sleep over

18:53

it. No, I mean, you know, there's nothing you can do

18:55

about it. But yeah. Just

18:59

seemed like a bad idea to me.

19:01

I don't trust these Internet companies. We

19:05

worked for them and we made a bunch of them.

19:07

That's exactly why I don't trust them. That's why we

19:10

know not to trust them. Exactly. We

19:12

know how the sausage is made and sequenced

19:15

now. How the sausage

19:17

is sequenced. The

19:19

FCC is moving to outlaw AI

19:21

generated robocalls. I find this hilarious.

19:23

Why don't we start with any

19:26

robocall? Yeah. They can't outlaw any

19:28

robocalls, let alone AI generated robocalls.

19:30

So this is just like FCC

19:33

moves to outlaw space alien

19:35

robocalls from the planet's ice.

19:38

We're going to outlaw robocalls from companies that start with

19:40

the letter C. In

19:43

this very special episode of Sesame Street. Yeah.

19:48

Good luck with that. Good luck. How are you going

19:50

to tell? You can't do any of them. I've

19:53

signed up for all the lists. I get calls three times a

19:55

day. I don't even know why I have a

19:58

phone on my. and

20:01

internet connection devices. I know. I wish

20:04

I didn't have a phone on mine honestly. There's

20:06

no point to it. No,

20:10

I think the one company that I can at

20:12

least say is doing the most for me when

20:14

it comes to spam calls is AT&T. Yeah Verizon's

20:17

own blocking system is pretty decent too.

20:19

Obviously not good enough but yeah. Yeah,

20:22

I just there's one switch that needs to be set.

20:25

If call comes from spam caller

20:29

don't fucking ring. Yes. Agreed. I don't

20:31

understand why that's not built-in or an

20:33

option. Is spam likely? Then I don't

20:35

want to hear it ring. Yeah,

20:38

I mean because it's either it's one or the

20:40

other. It's either accept calls from only numbers you

20:42

know or the wide open

20:44

world. And why you can't do just

20:46

only numbers you know especially as you get a little

20:48

bit older or you have a kid. Doctors

20:51

offices don't use a single number. No they

20:53

don't. They come from all over the fucking place.

20:56

Like there is there is no one number

20:58

for your doctor anymore. I got stung by

21:00

that big time. Yeah, I missed

21:03

a neurologist apartment appointment.

21:05

See that's what happens when you miss

21:07

your neurologist apartment. You missed the appointment

21:09

Jason. Uh-huh and that took me two

21:12

weeks to reschedule. I was miserable for two weeks. This is

21:14

right after I had the stroke and it was just like

21:16

just because I had that turned on and I didn't

21:19

realize it. I had Kaiser in my phone list. I

21:21

had 17 numbers from Kaiser.

21:23

My doctor's at Kaiser. Yep. Every

21:25

call comes from a completely new

21:28

number. Yep. Yeah. So iRobot

21:30

and Amazon are going to

21:32

not actually have their acquisition.

21:35

Hasn't been going on for like 20 years. It

21:37

feels like it. It feels like it. It's a

21:39

good thing for iRobot though because they get a

21:41

94 billion dollar termination fee.

21:43

Nice. That's how you get paid.

21:46

Yep. That's how you get paid.

21:48

Yeah. Pretty cool. Well

21:50

good for them. Tesla is being sued by 25 California

21:53

counties for allegedly mishandling hazardous

21:55

waste. The

21:58

lawsuit which seeks civil penalties and injunement. forcing

22:00

Tesla to correctly handle waste was filed after

22:02

months of negotiations reportedly broke down, civil penalties

22:04

could amount to as much as 70,000 per

22:07

violation per day. Now keep

22:09

that number in mind. Okay. Okay.

22:13

So waste materials have included lubricating

22:15

oils, brake fluids, lead

22:17

acid batteries, aerosols, anti-futuristic fluids,

22:20

propane paint, acetone, liquefied petroleum

22:23

gas adhesives, and diesel fuel.

22:26

And it continues to do so from

22:28

and at its facilities. Now they've been

22:30

here before, of course, and

22:32

they reached a settlement with the

22:35

EPA over federal hazardous material relations

22:37

violations before. As part of

22:39

that, they agreed to properly manage waste at its Fremont

22:41

plant and pay a $31,000 fee. $31,000? Yeah. Not $70,000

22:43

per violation per day, which

22:45

is what they're

22:50

trying for this time, but they will not get. They

22:52

will probably get something like a $31,000 fine because

22:55

that's what we do when we don't take things seriously.

22:58

I don't know. I don't know. I think they're definitely not

23:00

going to get $70,000 per violation per day,

23:02

but they're going to get more than $31,000

23:04

because what they're going for now is because they

23:06

broke the deal. Yeah. They broke the

23:09

2019 deal. So I think they're going to come

23:11

back. But that deal was only for one plant,

23:13

the Fremont plant. So and this is just a,

23:15

this is, they're alleging basically

23:17

everywhere. Everywhere Tesla has a plant,

23:20

they're doing this. Got it.

23:22

Of course they are. Fun

23:24

times, fun times. Well, I think everybody's

23:26

seen this at this point, but speaking

23:28

of Tesla's heavy metals. Yes, exactly. Heavy

23:31

metal drummer cost Elon Musk $55.8 billion.

23:38

Richard Tornetta, one

23:40

time thrash band drummer.

23:43

I love this guy so much. I love

23:45

this guy so much. He did. Nine

23:47

shares. Nine shares of

23:49

Tesla. Nine fucking shares of Tesla. And

23:51

he cost Elon $55.8 billion. I love

23:54

this. I

24:00

love this so much. And here's

24:03

the funny part now. So now

24:05

that Elon's paycheck has been

24:07

slashed, as it

24:10

were, he's trying

24:12

to have a shareholder

24:14

vote now to reincorporate the company

24:16

in Texas from Delaware, which

24:19

is actually going to cause more lawsuits because

24:22

it's just,

24:25

oh, I mean, this guy. Listen, kids, ketamine

24:28

is bad for you. Okay.

24:30

This is what I'm saying. Yeah.

24:33

Oh, man. Yeah. And

24:35

it's just going to get shot down because they're

24:38

seeing it as obviously a petty move and not

24:40

fiducially responsible. So glad

24:43

I sold so much of my Tesla stock.

24:46

Yeah. And it got

24:49

to be so bad, former Tesla counsel,

24:51

Todd Maron, broke down in tears in

24:53

court. So

24:57

that's the level of adulthood that we

24:59

have going on over there. Zero. Zero.

25:03

I mean, I'm sorry, nine shares. That's

25:05

all it took. Nine shares

25:07

in tenacity. That guy's my hero. He

25:10

is my hero. I'm sure his music sucks, but he's

25:12

still my hero. Exactly. That's why

25:15

he can only afford nine shares.

25:17

Oh, man. He

25:20

definitely isn't crying about getting kicked off a TikTok

25:22

listening to that. No. And

25:25

because the hits just keep on coming for

25:27

old Muskie, he was voted

25:29

for a second year in a row

25:32

most overrated CEO. Yeah.

25:34

Yeah. Yeah. And

25:37

I love this part at the end here. Even

25:39

Musk tends to agree. After an

25:42

ex-user asked Musk's company's Grok,

25:44

the chatbot that's built into ex

25:46

slash Twitter now, roast

25:48

Elon Musk with one word and the bot

25:50

replied overrated. At least Elon replied accurate.

25:55

So yeah, at least

25:57

he knows he's overrated. But now everybody knows two years

25:59

in a row. He had two years to fix this.

26:02

I don't think he cares Yeah, I don't

26:04

think he's gonna be the one for you kids I think

26:06

he might start caring since he lost 55 billion

26:08

dollars that that might tip the scales

26:10

now And I was thinking about this

26:12

this morning You know everybody

26:15

has ditched X because of you know

26:17

we liked we liked Twitter. We don't

26:19

like X We don't like Elon. I

26:21

don't like that brand new company X

26:24

No, that brand new 14 month old journey.

26:26

It's young whippers nappers Yeah, those

26:28

guys don't know what they're doing over there So

26:31

I'm thinking I'm like hmm how

26:34

much longer is it gonna

26:36

actually exist as As

26:38

an Elon joint because

26:40

I mean they're they're hemorrhaging people they're hemorrhaging

26:42

money and I think

26:45

that somebody's gonna have to swoop in at

26:47

some point and buy it you know I think

26:50

I think that it's Inevitable and how long

26:52

is that gonna take two more years? Maybe

26:54

three more years, and then the

26:56

pendulum might swing the other way again depending

26:58

on who buys it But I

27:01

don't see I don't see old captain Elon at the helm

27:03

of that ship for a hell of a lot longer No,

27:06

but if it doesn't happen sooner rather than later

27:08

It's not gonna make a fucking bit of difference

27:10

because you've got threads you've got blue sky threads

27:12

seems to really be picking up steam 130

27:15

million users now yeah, I mean

27:17

that's you know I bet I bet more than

27:19

less than 1% or ages 13 to

27:22

7 How

27:26

long have they been around now the threads 14 months or so

27:32

Something like that something like that and Just

27:34

one more one more nail in the Elon

27:37

coffin space X is being sued for negligence

27:39

in an accident that led to a workers

27:41

coma this guy Francisco

27:43

cabata has been in a coma for two

27:46

years now Because one of the

27:48

Raptor engines that they were testing big

27:50

chunk of it flew off and hit him in the head But

27:52

hey, you know what? Free neural link

27:54

implant to see if we can fix this guy. Yeah, I

27:57

didn't even I didn't even cross reference to see if that

27:59

was the guy Oh

28:02

man, actually we're gonna charge you a cost

28:04

because you know, I need the money We

28:08

can't afford you know, we'll get you labor

28:10

only it's okay So

28:14

his wife is finally suing him There's finally

28:16

soon SpaceX for his her husband being in

28:18

the coma and nobody would comment on this

28:20

So that's all we have at this point

28:24

But yeah, and apparently there

28:26

are a lot of a lot of

28:28

injuries going on over at SpaceX that

28:30

have not been reported something Something along

28:32

the lines of crushed limbs amputations electrocutions

28:34

head and eye injuries and one death.

28:37

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32:10

Candy Jason

32:14

big announcement week Seen

32:17

on that new company X has been around for 14 months

32:20

We are ineffably elated to confirm that good omens

32:22

will return for a third season This calls for

32:24

a round of hot chocolate and sweet treats You

32:27

know the funny thing is though I

32:30

thought I said that about three weeks ago because I saw it

32:32

on blue sky When

32:35

Neil when Neil announced it over on blue sky

32:37

because he'd left X And

32:39

and and announced it over there. So finally

32:41

made the PR around stabs. I made it

32:44

around. Yeah All

32:47

right, no, that's great. Yeah, I'm excited

32:49

because they left it on a bit of a cliffhanger

32:51

as it were Yeah pink. Yeah,

32:53

I'm hoping and assuming that Neil Gaiman

32:55

is heavily involved in the writing. So

32:57

of course. Yeah, okay I

33:00

did want to touch on monarch legacy of monsters because

33:02

I had forgotten I'd finished it last week and just

33:04

kind of mentioned in passing Yeah, I

33:06

actually really did enjoy it. It was good

33:09

I didn't need all the monsters. Of

33:12

course, they're gonna come back for a second season because

33:14

they left it again You know Kong shows up out

33:16

of nowhere Yeah, but

33:18

I thoroughly enjoyed it. It was it was a

33:20

good show. So I'm happy. Yeah,

33:23

I'm looking forward to it I think it'll be

33:25

decent especially since you know, we know what's

33:27

going to happen with the reunion of the

33:29

the old guys and all that so that's

33:32

Very interesting. I started

33:34

watching a new show on Apple Plus

33:37

the reluctant traveler with Eugene Levy If

33:40

you know Eugene Levy, you know exactly what

33:42

the show is gonna be like Okay,

33:46

I liked it it was

33:48

fine This is one of those that you should dip

33:50

into once every month or so you

33:52

need to forget The formula and

33:55

Eugene Levy and then you can come

33:57

back and watch another episode and enjoy it because you've

33:59

forgotten all about it. If you watch it in

34:01

a row, it's horrible because

34:03

it's, you know, it is

34:06

exactly what you would expect. Eugene Levy

34:08

doesn't want to go. He's miserable

34:10

the whole time he's there. They

34:12

put him in the, the best part about the

34:14

show is actually they find like the most insane like

34:16

$15,000 a night hotels

34:18

that they put him up in and the

34:20

hotels are fucking unbelievable. So he's

34:23

happy about that part. Then he has to do something he

34:25

really doesn't want to do that isn't really that big of

34:27

a deal, but it's Eugene Levy. So he, he's so the

34:29

eyebrow goes up and he's miserable and he does his sides

34:31

to the camera. At the end, he's learned

34:33

something important and he's really come around to this place and

34:35

his people are nice and I feel better about the whole

34:37

thing. Next episode,

34:40

exactly the same thing somewhere else. But

34:43

you know, it's fun. If you like Eugene Levy, you'll get a kick

34:45

out of it. Okay. I don't,

34:48

which is why I think Apple is really knocking

34:50

it out of the park with their recommendations on

34:52

Apple TV plus because I did not know this

34:54

existed and I get almost

34:57

every single Apple TV recommendation that

34:59

there is. Right. So I think

35:01

they, they know they, they, they,

35:03

they've nailed the recommendation engine over

35:05

there. Okay. Smartless

35:07

podcast is moving to Sirius XM in

35:09

an exclusive $100 million

35:11

deal because they didn't

35:13

learn anything from Spotify's or Amazon's deal.

35:15

This is an Amazon deal. Well, Sirius

35:17

XM has got to do something because

35:19

they are, I, I, the only reason

35:21

they're still in existence is because they

35:23

make it so goddamn hard to fucking

35:25

cancel. Yeah. Which is why they're getting sued

35:27

in New York. Yep. So I

35:29

just think that they need, I think that these

35:32

companies have figured out how to use podcasting as

35:34

a tax write off. Yeah. I bet,

35:36

I bet this deal is completely engineered as

35:38

a tax write off just like WKRP in

35:40

Cincinnati ended up being a

35:42

spoiler alert. Yeah. So this is

35:44

horrible news for my wife initially

35:46

because this, that's, she listens to

35:48

it nonstop. She's always listening to

35:50

the smart list podcast. She watched the

35:53

show that the documentary thing on

35:55

HBO. I told her about this

35:57

and she got really freaked out, but then she looked into it.

36:00

it not really exclusive

36:02

what they're doing is they're keeping

36:04

the back catalog exclusive but new

36:06

episodes will come out everywhere just

36:08

like normal yeah and

36:10

as we know the back catalog isn't really

36:13

monetizable you know past yeah so

36:15

it's a fucking a hundred million dollar great

36:17

deal for the smartless guys oh yeah on

36:19

top of their stupid million dollar deal they

36:21

just walked out of yeah oh

36:24

there's no podcast it's worth this much money

36:27

there's not none there's

36:29

no way that they can they're gonna make this money back

36:31

period no no chance and help no

36:35

it's just it's a mean it's a three-year deal so

36:37

that's you know so 33 million dollars

36:39

a year they're not gonna make 33 million dollars back on

36:41

one show and nobody's learned that yet that's

36:44

why that's why I think honest that's why that's

36:46

why I think that there's something else going on

36:49

behind the scenes why they need a write-off okay

36:51

you know yeah I that's that's my gut my

36:53

gut feeling is that we're not seeing the actual

36:55

accounting that's happening here so yeah because

36:58

it may I mean a five-year-old could could

37:00

see that that's not gonna work well

37:03

I'll ask my seven-year-old we'll see yeah see

37:05

if he can figure it out like Netflix

37:08

and Disney Plus before it Hulu is clamping

37:10

down on password sharing outside the account holders

37:12

primary personal residence per an updated subscriber agreement

37:14

that is unless the practice is permitted by

37:16

your service tier indicating that users may be

37:18

able to pay extra to share their membership

37:20

outside of their household they will need to

37:22

start complying with these new rules by March

37:24

14th as the verge is reporting the service

37:26

has been informing subscribers and email that it's

37:28

adding limitations on sharing your account outside of

37:31

your household but they have not made it

37:33

clear exactly how the Hulu plans to track

37:36

okay so stop doing it we're not gonna tell you how

37:38

or why and you may be able to pay more okay

37:41

of course for

37:43

most people in the US this doesn't

37:46

mean shit because Disney Plus is who

37:48

is now wrapped up in Disney Plus

37:50

so you're exactly those those different requirements

37:53

yeah that's the thing I you know at this

37:55

point I would can't I'm really on the edge

37:57

of just canceling them both because yeah there's nothing

38:00

coming down the pipe on either one. Yeah, well, I

38:02

mean, there's nothing new from Disney that I want to

38:04

see. And Hulu is just

38:06

kind of one of those ones that I go

38:08

to. I'm like, okay, is there anything? I scrub

38:11

all of the other services and there's nothing there

38:13

that I'm like, okay, let's give Hulu one last

38:15

try and see if there's anything there. So

38:19

the only thing I got to say on Hulu that

38:21

I am addicted to is depth and other details. I

38:23

still think that's very good. Oh God,

38:25

it's so fucking good. So

38:27

good. Highly recommended. Masters

38:30

of the Air has been out for two weeks. Now

38:32

I just watched episode three last night. I'm

38:38

very saddened by this show. No good.

38:41

The thing is, this comes on, this is supposedly

38:43

the Band of Brothers team. Band

38:46

of Brothers was one of the

38:48

most phenomenal series ever made. The Pacific,

38:51

meh. Masters of the

38:53

Air, meh. Band

38:56

of Brothers spent the entire first episode

38:58

on character development. And you

39:00

knew exactly who everybody was, where they came from,

39:02

what they were doing. The Pacific,

39:05

they tried, it wasn't that great. Masters of the Air,

39:07

they just threw that shit out the window and just

39:09

jumped straight into the plane. And

39:11

it just makes me not give

39:13

a shit about these people. Right. Which

39:15

is really a really bad thing. Yeah, because

39:18

the problem, I

39:20

think a lot of the problem is most of

39:22

these guys die because you look at the return

39:25

rates on bomber crews in

39:28

World War II and it's just ungodly, you

39:30

know, how many people were shot down and

39:32

got killed or became POWs.

39:35

So they have that as a problem

39:37

to begin with. The flying

39:41

scenes, meh. Little

39:43

too over CG'd. Yeah. Too

39:45

CG'd. And

39:49

yeah, it's not catching me. It's really

39:51

not catching me. So hopefully maybe they'll

39:53

catch a stride, but it's pretty, but

39:56

that's about it. Just not

39:58

enough character development to- really make me care about

40:00

these guys. I haven't really seen any positive

40:03

reviews on it and I'm kind of waiting now. I'm

40:06

not going to invest in it until somebody

40:08

says I should. Nobody

40:10

has told me to do it yet. Yeah,

40:13

no, it's not. To me, I'm going to keep

40:15

watching it because I tell you what, it is

40:17

gorgeous on my 75-inch TV in 4K. But

40:21

there's just no. Yeah, but so are the Apple screen savers. That's

40:24

true. That is true. They are

40:27

beautiful. So I do have

40:29

one recommendation though on a fantastic show that

40:31

just has the same amount of episodes out

40:33

right now. Monsieur Spade. It

40:36

is a new neo-noir show that

40:39

stars Clive Owen. I love

40:41

Clive Owen. He's Sam Spade.

40:43

So this takes place after the Maltese Falcon.

40:46

He's 60 years old and living in France.

40:50

And it's a murder drama. And

40:52

it is awesome. It is

40:54

really, really, really, really good.

40:57

Like I said, three episodes out, it's on AMC. And

41:00

so you can get it on AMC or AMC Plus

41:02

if you have that. I just went to Sweden instead. And

41:06

it's so good. It's

41:08

fast paced, like the dialogue. It's, you

41:10

know, it's like a Sam Spade type

41:13

of thing. He's like, hey, but he's

41:15

60, he's crotchety, and he's a bad

41:17

motherfucker. And

41:20

it's just, I can't recommend this enough. My dad

41:22

actually turned me on to this. If

41:24

you like the Perry Mason reboot, they're not, they're the

41:27

prequel that they did on HBO. And

41:29

now Max. It's very similar

41:31

to that in style and tone. But

41:34

it's beautifully shot and amazingly

41:36

well acted. I can't recommend that

41:38

one enough. Okay, cool. Yep,

41:41

and turns out 28 days later is going

41:43

to be coming back with 28 years later,

41:47

even though it's not been 28 years later.

41:49

Yeah. Yeah. Well, by

41:51

the time it comes out, who the hell knows? Yeah,

41:54

but Danny Boyle's back. So who cares? That's

41:57

all I care about. Danny's back and Philly

41:59

and Murray. he might come back. So

42:01

they're working that out. He's an executive producer,

42:03

but I think his Oppenheimer

42:06

Oscar nom will definitely

42:08

help bring that up, you

42:10

know? Yeah. If that's just a

42:12

win for them. Good movies. But he picks

42:14

up the rights. Yeah. Well,

42:17

I'd be more excited about 28

42:20

years later for Shaun of the Dead, but okay. I

42:23

know. That's what I was thinking of too when I

42:25

was watching this. I'm just like, man, why

42:27

don't they do another Shaun of the Dead? That would be

42:29

great. The single best zombie

42:31

movie ever made. Of course. Fantastic.

42:34

Even my wife loves it. You

42:36

can't not. You can't not love that

42:38

movie. But I think 28 Days

42:40

Later is right up there. I

42:44

think the second best for me, because

42:46

it broke the mold. It gave you running zombies.

42:48

It was scary as shit. Nobody had seen that

42:50

before. And it was just like, oh, I

42:53

like this. This actually picks it

42:55

up a notch. Some people are very

42:57

anti the running zombies, which would

43:00

be Simon Pegg and Shaun of the

43:02

Dead. He hates the running zombies. But

43:05

I like them, so I hope they make this thing and get

43:07

it done. Well, we were

43:09

talking a little bit earlier about Gizmodo and how

43:11

much we've been enjoying them and their writing and

43:13

all that sort of stuff. I didn't realize how

43:15

deep they were actually getting as well. They

43:18

run a series about Star Trek

43:20

anniversaries. They

43:23

will bring up every week like what

43:26

happened in the past with Star Trek and they

43:28

start talking about it. And this week, I

43:30

discovered it because I guess this one was going a little

43:32

bit viral. So it was pumped up

43:35

their algorithm and bubbled up in my feet a

43:37

bit higher. This is great. It's

43:39

a banner week in a banner week

43:41

for questionable Star Trek anniversaries. But while earlier

43:43

this week, we found at least something to

43:45

admire in Voyager's bold exploration of the warp

43:47

10 threshold and space amphibian evolution. There's very

43:50

little to admire in the other major milestone.

43:52

30 years ago today, the next

43:54

generation took us to Planet Scotland in Sub

43:56

Rosa where Beverly Crusher exchanged all thoughts of

43:58

character agency for four 40 minutes in

44:01

exchange for some generational family ghost loving. Yes,

44:04

my friend, it's the ghost candle sex episode. But

44:06

how bad can the ghost candle sex episode really

44:08

be? The answer is very bad. Very

44:11

bad. This is one of the greatest

44:13

episodes of all time. This is one of the greatest

44:15

write ups about one of the greatest episodes of all

44:17

time. It

44:19

is great. The link will be in the show

44:21

notes. If you remember this episode and how fucking

44:24

stupid it was, you're going to love this. When

44:27

I first moved to Los Angeles and

44:29

we were living over

44:31

in Hollywood, every time we would go

44:33

to the mall, we'd be going to

44:35

the Beverly Center. Every

44:38

time, Beverly,

44:41

Beverly. If

44:44

you've seen the episode, you'll get it. But

44:48

that was a running joke I think for 10 years. That

44:53

episode gave so much to the

44:55

world. It really did. Fantastic.

44:59

A little news on Daredevil,

45:02

Born Again, which I didn't

45:04

know that they had a title. They're

45:07

putting the band back together. Apparently

45:11

Bullseye will be coming back, which is cool. The

45:14

other cool thing is they

45:16

apparently took the writer strike to go and

45:18

fix a lot of things that were wrong

45:21

with it. They went and reworked a

45:23

bunch of the episodes. Those are going to figure out

45:25

how to shoot them and all that stuff. The

45:28

sad thing is they took it from 18

45:30

episodes, which might have been a little too

45:32

much actually, to a 13-episode season. They

45:37

make these things movies nowadays. It's not like

45:39

the old 22 episodes of TV. No, we

45:41

don't have time for the Beverly sex in

45:43

Planet Scotland with a ghost episode. You've

45:46

got to cut to the real story here. You

45:48

cut to the story, but Beverly.

45:51

Would be very sad to hear this. I'm

45:53

just looking forward to it. They say it's not going to be until 2025 now. But

45:59

we're going to get some more. Daredevil. They're gonna be, you know,

46:01

Daredevil in the, you know, old folks home.

46:03

But hey, we'll get it. Well speaking of

46:05

that, and I didn't put this in the

46:07

show notes because I just saw it a

46:09

little bit earlier today, we finally have a

46:11

release date for the Beetlejuice sequel which is

46:13

cleverly titled Beetlejuice Beetlejuice. Yep. Yeah,

46:16

it's coming in what, I think, August or

46:18

September? Can't remember. Okay. Looking forward

46:20

to it. Yeah, yeah. Hopefully

46:22

the chemistry and the magic is still

46:24

there. Yep, hope so. Yeah,

46:26

the new Ghostbusters doesn't look bad. That one looks

46:29

alright too. Yeah. Yeah,

46:31

I'm kind of, we'll see what they do. We'll

46:33

see what they do. I'm in. I'm in. I

46:35

just, right now I just want to go get

46:37

to the theater and go to Godzilla year one. I

46:40

don't want to go see that. Yeah, I want to see it in

46:42

the theater. My buddy wants to go, so I

46:44

think we're gonna try that this week. I haven't been to the theater

46:47

in five years, so

46:50

it'll be an experience. I went to, for the

46:52

Mario Brothers movie with the kid. Okay.

46:56

Yep, it's a good time. Alright. This

46:59

is a, let's close out with this one.

47:01

Richard Prince. We've

47:03

covered him a long time ago. Basically what

47:05

he was doing is he would do a

47:08

screenshot of an Instagram post, then print it

47:10

really big and sell it for a gazillion

47:12

dollars, up to a hundred grand each for

47:14

these things. And this is why I find the art

47:17

world to be complete and utter bullshit. Oh

47:19

yeah, oh it is. One of the many reasons. No,

47:22

I used to work in the art world and

47:24

everybody in the art world knows it's bullshit. That's

47:26

the great part about it. That's why NFTs

47:28

weren't much of a stretch. Also, actually

47:30

they weren't. Yeah, when I explained them

47:32

to my dad at first, he was

47:34

just like, that tracks. Sucker

47:37

born any minute. Yeah, so

47:39

he has agreed to pay

47:41

at least $650,000 to

47:43

two of the photographers in

47:45

the copyright lawsuit. So they win, he

47:48

loses, but he still wins because

47:50

I'm sure he gets to keep a lot of

47:52

that money that he made from those pieces that

47:54

he just blatantly stole and printed. See, you

47:57

can't even do that shit at Kinko's. Well, actually you

47:59

can't do it at Kinko's. because I don't think Kinko

48:01

exists anymore. But in the old days

48:03

you had to show proof of copyright if you wanted to

48:05

copy something like that. Unless

48:07

you work there overnight like I did and just copy

48:10

whatever the hell you wanted. If anybody gave you five

48:12

bucks you'd still copy it anyway. There's

48:14

always a way. Yes, that's true.

48:18

Cops and doodads. Well

48:21

so far Brian it looks like Apple has sold about 200,000 of

48:23

the Vision Pro headsets. Pretty

48:27

impressive. We don't know exactly how many they

48:29

have but I'm assuming that's probably most of

48:31

them. Yeah, yeah and

48:33

I think it is. They said they were going to make up to a half

48:35

million the first year. And

48:38

the interesting story, the side story is that

48:41

there were so many people that were buying

48:43

them to repost on eBay and

48:45

completely figured out how to get around that

48:47

part where you get to have to scan

48:49

your head. It's like they were clever enough

48:52

to get around Apple's head scanning issue. So

48:55

apparently one hacker figured out how

48:57

to take the head scanning data,

48:59

put it off to the side and then use

49:03

that during the pre-order process and just kind

49:05

of inject it into the pre-order process. And

49:08

then we'll just tell everybody oh when you get

49:10

there tell them it doesn't fit or if it

49:12

fits great. But there's a

49:14

program that when you come in to get it fitted

49:16

for the first time if it doesn't fit they'll refit

49:18

you with a different one. So I imagine there's going

49:20

to be one size that's going to fit all over

49:22

the place. Right. So yeah good for them. I can't

49:25

wait to hear some actual reviews with people that have

49:27

it. There's going to be over 600

49:29

apps when it first comes out which

49:31

is pretty impressive. Pretty impressive. Yeah. I just

49:33

got an email this morning that Fantastical

49:35

is now optimized for Vision

49:38

Pro. I'm like okay great just

49:40

what I want. Spatial

49:42

calendar. Yeah. I

49:44

don't even want Fantastical let alone do I

49:46

want Fantastical in 3D. This

49:51

is an interesting one and this comes back to

49:53

something I said a long time ago. Apple says

49:56

EU accounts for just 7 percent of its global

49:58

app store revenue. And

50:00

I said, back when the EU

50:03

was getting all pissy about all

50:05

of this stuff, I'm like, well, Apple could

50:07

just say no and pull out because

50:10

it's a smaller market and they

50:12

can take the hit. And

50:14

that would teach them a lesson. And

50:17

so what Tim Cook is doing

50:19

is he's making these new rules

50:21

for the sideloading of App Store.

50:24

You know, bring your own App Store and shit. He's

50:26

making the term so onerous that nobody's going to want

50:28

to do it. Even Mark Zuckerberg said, yeah, nobody's going

50:31

to want to do that. So

50:33

I think this comes back to them just saying, yeah,

50:36

fuck you. We are nothing to

50:38

us. This is

50:40

definitely a shot across the bow saying, OK, we don't

50:42

care. Yeah. Yeah. It's

50:45

very, very interesting because 7% of

50:47

Apple's global App Store revenue compared

50:49

to their total revenue is

50:51

probably like, you know, less than half a percent

50:54

of total revenue. So I don't think they

50:56

would, you know, I don't even think they would

50:58

notice the hit if it went away. They

51:01

would notice what they would notice

51:03

is the hardware hit because I think people stop

51:05

actually buying iPhones. But

51:08

even that, you know, we'll see how this plays out.

51:10

But I think Apple is definitely pushing back and they're

51:12

not they're not happy about it. Do

51:14

I think that's cool? No, I don't. But

51:18

I think that we should be able to load

51:20

whatever app we want on our fucking phone personally.

51:22

You know, they're going to hang on to every last bit

51:24

of that revenue as they can. Yeah. They

51:27

built it. Mm hmm. Yeah.

51:29

I think I remember talking about this gizmo when

51:32

it first came out and we just kind of

51:34

laughed about it and never discussed it again. But

51:36

a couple of years ago, Snap decided that the

51:38

selfie production pipeline needed to be improved upon bathroom

51:41

mirrors and selfie sticks not cutting it. So they

51:43

decided the next evolution in the art of taking

51:46

pictures of yourself would involve a flying

51:48

robot. So that's the pixie. The

51:50

tiny yellow drone designed to follow you around and

51:52

take cute candidates of you while you did stuff.

51:55

Yeah, it was cute. Yeah, cute little. Yeah,

51:57

it was a cute little thing that retailed

51:59

between a. 185 and 250 bucks

52:01

wasn't that cute not that cute and it

52:03

did not do well So snap

52:06

halted development on the product a mere four

52:08

months after it launched However, lots of things

52:10

lots of these things are out there During

52:13

a short reign the drugs type the drones tagline

52:15

was your friendly flying camera except it turns out

52:17

those devices aren't quite so friendly after all In

52:20

fact snap is urging the small number of people

52:22

who did buy the pixie to immediately stop using

52:24

it and remove the battery and stop Charging it

52:27

you're wondering why it's because the damn thing could

52:29

overheat and explode whoops

52:35

So, yes, the the battery can overheat to

52:37

potentially catch on fire and injure you while

52:39

taking a cute selfie They report

52:41

that the drone should be returned without the batteries. You

52:43

need to figure out You

52:49

keep the little flying bomb would you

52:51

take the propellers? Yes. Oh That's

52:54

funny, yeah, these guys can't catch a break. No, they

52:56

really can't but they're still there amazing

52:59

amazing Something

53:02

else that's still there. Let's get into the AI news

53:06

Sam Altman is he's a

53:08

bigger flip-flopper than John Kerry So

53:12

now he's saying GPT-5 will just

53:14

be okay, it'll be okay. All

53:16

right, you know, he's managing

53:18

expectations On one

53:20

side on the other side he's saying it's gonna kill us

53:22

all But so

53:25

which one is it Sam? Which

53:27

one is it today? It's gonna kill us all in

53:29

a very bland way It

53:31

is gonna kill us through

53:34

boring fucking headlines So

53:36

yeah, is it that's why I just I don't

53:38

even care what these guys say anymore You know

53:40

the whole thing was like to know

53:42

because it's all self-serving bullshit the whole thing

53:45

with the you know Moratoriums like because every

53:47

everybody that signed that moratorium was starting an

53:49

AI company wanted to catch up But

53:52

it seems like all the people with the money

53:54

have caught up and are actually surpassing what? Gpt4

53:58

can do at least at this point. So it's Oh, because it's

54:00

all the same thing. Yeah. You

54:02

know, it's all just, you know, incremental

54:05

differences based on the same logical

54:07

code base. You know, people

54:09

are doing little tweaks to it, but the underlying

54:11

theory is the same for all of them. So

54:14

in half of this shit's open source now. So you

54:17

know, it is what it is. There's

54:19

a really good article that I found

54:21

called How AI Works, which is a

54:23

very non-technical, extremely non-technical explanation of how

54:25

LLMs work in the whole thing. So

54:28

I recommend just, I think anybody can read

54:30

this and get a better grasp on what

54:32

AI is because it'll be better cocktail party

54:34

conversation for everybody if

54:36

you guys got at least a little bit of a

54:39

handle on it. So recommend checking that out. And

54:41

he does a follow-up article called How AI

54:44

Doesn't Work. All

54:46

the things that you hear in the articles from Sam Altman,

54:48

yeah, it doesn't do that. Yeah, it doesn't do that. No,

54:51

it does not have a soul. It does not reason. It

54:54

doesn't understand many, many, many, many things. So

54:58

this guy near Zikerman is the guy that wrote

55:00

it. He used to be the former head of

55:02

audiobooks at Spotify, and he was one of the

55:04

co-founders of Anchor, one of the shittiest podcast hosting

55:06

platforms of all time. Didn't we talk to them

55:08

at some point? Were we all of them? His

55:10

writing's pretty good, so he should stick with that.

55:14

We were never on Anchor. No, no, I would

55:16

never, ever move to Anchor. Anchor was one of

55:18

the, I could go on for

55:20

an hour about the shittiness of Anchor. Yeah. Yeah.

55:24

So, and if you just want to drown in

55:27

another sea of bullshit, Vitalik Buterin,

55:29

one of the co-founders of Ethereum, he

55:32

wrote an article, The Promise and

55:34

Challenges of Crypto plus AI Applications.

55:36

And it even includes a Venn

55:39

diagram. On

55:42

the artificial intelligence side, he's

55:44

got centralized, little transparency, energy

55:46

consumptive, monetization limited, and monopolistic.

55:49

On the blockchain side, we've

55:51

got decentralized, transparent, energy efficient

55:53

solutions. Fucking finally. User

55:56

monetization inaccessible. So the synergies

55:59

are data. ownership, transparency,

56:01

monetization, cost-cutting, competition,

56:04

innovation, and inclusive.

56:06

Fuck you. Well

56:08

if you'd like that bullshit in a more

56:11

bite-sized chunk you can listen to the latest

56:13

episode of Pivot, Deepfake Regulation, Media Layoffs, and

56:15

guest Chris Dixon. Now

56:17

Chris Dixon is promoting his latest book,

56:19

Read, Write, Own, Building the Next Error

56:22

of the Internet by Chris Dixon. Chris

56:24

Dixon is an American internet entrepreneur and

56:26

investor. And here's all you

56:28

need to know. He is a general partner

56:30

at the venture capital firm Andreson Horowitz. Boom!

56:34

So he goes on and he

56:37

talks to Scott and Kara and

56:39

he's trying to extol the virtues

56:41

of the blockchain and AI and

56:43

all the applications being built on

56:45

the blockchain. And they did a

56:47

really good job of saying, so like

56:49

what? And he had nothing!

56:53

And he kept going back to, there's just some

56:55

really cool things. Like

56:58

what? Like what?

57:00

Nothing! She told me

57:02

I would never fucking read this book. He

57:05

had to have been prepared for this. But

57:07

he had nothing. He did not

57:10

say a single thing that made me

57:12

think blockchain is worth fucking shit at

57:15

all. Or it's gonna be the future at all.

57:17

The best he could do was like, well

57:19

there's some really interesting things out there like,

57:22

you know, there's a platform that lets

57:25

people across the internet that have never

57:27

met before write a story together so

57:29

that eventually if it gets picked up

57:31

they can share the proceeds of the

57:35

IP. What? Fuck

57:38

you! That's stupid! The best you've

57:40

got is a way to jumpstart

57:42

some creativity so then it gets sold into

57:44

the normal pipelines of things. That's

57:46

it? That's

57:50

it? Yeah. Okay. No.

57:53

Fucking. And we've been

57:55

screaming about this stuff for so long and

57:57

there's so much money being pumped into it.

58:00

Even the people that know the most about this

58:02

stuff, that live in it, that invest in it,

58:04

that write books about it, when they've asked

58:06

what they can actually do with it, nothing.

58:10

Nope. You know why? Because

58:13

they're still banking on the fucking greater fool

58:15

theory. That's it. That is their business

58:17

model now. They need to rope

58:19

people in so they can get rid of it. That's

58:22

it. Until when the next shiny thing comes along.

58:24

That's it. The problem is, you're still hearing about

58:26

Web 3 and the blockchain from these guys because

58:28

they still got so much fucking money in it

58:31

that they can't get rid of. That's true. That's

58:33

it. So, you know, that's

58:35

the entire, that is the entire

58:37

house of cards right there. Yeah. So.

58:41

I think it's highly worth listening to that interview because

58:43

it's just great. He's gung-ho

58:45

about everything and then as soon as he gets questioned,

58:47

just literally nothing. Just

58:50

falls apart. You know, I

58:52

don't listen to that show anymore because I'm kind

58:54

of over them. But I think I'll make an

58:57

exception this time. Just forward to the interview. You'll

58:59

make an exception. You'll make an exception. That's

59:02

the library. Well,

59:08

I took your suggestion, Jason, and I picked up This

59:10

Book May Save Your Life, Everyday Health Hacks to Worry

59:13

Less and Live Better by Karan Rajan. Highly

59:15

enjoyable fun book. Isn't it though? Yeah.

59:18

Yeah. You know, we're all

59:20

going to die and our bodies are fucking useless,

59:22

but hey, great. Mm-hmm.

59:25

Yeah. At least you can get a chuckle

59:27

on the way to the grave. Yeah. He's

59:29

a wonderful communicator. He's a great

59:31

health communicator. Definitely dig him. So it's a fun

59:34

book. It's a good read. You learned a few

59:36

things for sure. I like the little everyday health

59:38

access. It's nothing we don't know.

59:40

Drink a lot of water. Eat vegetables. Okay.

59:43

Yeah. He's fun to watch on Instagram too

59:45

because his videos are very entertaining. I'll have to

59:47

follow him. Yeah. Yeah.

59:50

He does some takedowns of viral folks when

59:53

they're like talking about different things. Well, that's

59:55

kind of true, but really nah. He

59:58

really breaks it down. I

1:00:01

have been since the beginning of the year every morning

1:00:03

I get up and open up my iPad and I've

1:00:05

got two of those Daily,

1:00:07

you know daily tip dealios going on

1:00:10

The first one I'd check out is

1:00:12

the daily laws 366

1:00:14

meditations on power seduction mastery strategy and human

1:00:16

nature by Robert Greene because I

1:00:19

like Robert Greene and I got this on sale a

1:00:21

long time ago and It's

1:00:23

been sitting in my my Kindle for a long time.

1:00:25

But at the beginning of the year I'm like, maybe

1:00:27

I should try these things because the second one I've

1:00:29

got that my dad swears by and

1:00:32

I even bought him a very nice Leather

1:00:34

bound autographed version of it's the the daily

1:00:36

stoic 366 meditations on

1:00:38

wisdom perseverance in the art of living by

1:00:40

Ryan holiday and Steven Hanselman The

1:00:43

funny thing is Robert Greene Well,

1:00:45

actually Robert Greene and Ryan Holiday have a they're

1:00:47

tied at the hip because Ryan Holiday Used

1:00:49

to be Robert Greene's writing assistant and

1:00:52

he'd learned everything about writing from Robert

1:00:54

Greene Except how to write Unfortunately,

1:00:56

my dad and I both chuckle about the fact

1:00:59

that Ryan Holiday is one of the worst writers

1:01:01

we've ever read his

1:01:03

actual writing Then

1:01:06

then the books are enjoyable But you can't you

1:01:08

can't say that Ryan Holiday is a good writer

1:01:10

by any stretch of the imagination Good

1:01:13

ideas for execution Robert Greene

1:01:16

great writer. I really enjoy his stuff It's funny

1:01:18

that you mentioned stoicism because I stumbled across an

1:01:20

article earlier this week and I was gonna send

1:01:22

it to you But then I totally forgot. I

1:01:24

think it was over on the Guardian Because

1:01:27

it's Johnny Leiden's birthday This

1:01:29

I think he turned 68 or something like

1:01:32

that And it was this really long

1:01:34

great article about how punk rock and

1:01:36

stoicism are intricately Connected and

1:01:39

gets really deep into it. It was I was like

1:01:41

Jason would like this, but then I totally forgot. So

1:01:43

no well It's

1:01:45

on the garden search for John. Okay. Oh Okay,

1:01:48

that's homework. So You

1:01:51

know, we don't do homework on this show I

1:01:55

do want to throw out a pitch for

1:01:57

my friend Theresa McNulty's new book itchy. Mmm,

1:01:59

it's It's a really cute little

1:02:01

kids book age for age four to five.

1:02:03

Nice. That little range. So she

1:02:05

just put it out. It's

1:02:07

paperback. Go check it out. Link is in the show

1:02:09

notes. So good luck, Teresa. Can't. I'm

1:02:13

losing shout outs.

1:02:16

Over at Patreon, we've got

1:02:18

Mariana. Mariana, just for you,

1:02:21

deliver to. Msbkg18

1:02:23

wrote us a beautiful review. Thank you

1:02:25

very much. It's very long. So

1:02:28

we will read that. We won't read that to you

1:02:31

listeners right now. But I do. She does have

1:02:33

a personal request. At the beginning of 2023,

1:02:35

you both mentioned a great $1,000 chair,

1:02:37

but I can't find the name. That would be

1:02:39

the Herman Miller Mira 2. Sitting on

1:02:41

it right now. I'm standing because

1:02:43

I need to stand. But

1:02:45

as soon as I go back, I will edit

1:02:47

this show sitting on that chair too because it is

1:02:50

the best Herman Miller chair that they make, in my

1:02:52

opinion. Agreed. Yep. All right.

1:02:54

Thanks so much. Over at PayPal,

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we've got Charlie, Richard, Simon, Judge,

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Haway, Thomas, Nikolai, Levy, and Nicolay.

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Tongue twist of time. It is. Over

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at the tip chair, we've got Adam,

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Nick, Matthew, and Sarah. And again, no

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reviews. What happened? What happened? I

1:03:11

think every single one of our listeners has already given us

1:03:13

a review, Jason. I think that

1:03:15

and then some. And then some. So

1:03:18

get well soon, Dave. Dave is

1:03:20

out this week with an ailment.

1:03:22

So tune back in next week

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for Shit, Shower, and Shave with Dave. That's right.

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