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Welcome to Guys, a podcast

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about guys, Bleep, Glore, Pine,

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Brian. We

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have a non-believer here, Chris James.

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Not one of your best. I know.

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Well, you know, I feel like you. It's

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one of those ones where you got to kind of

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really go for it. If you're going to, you know,

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you got it and you just kind of half-assed it.

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And it really came to count getting yelled at. This

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is this reminds me of the first like 15 episodes

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where you were like, you don't sound very excited to

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be doing. Yeah. Well, I was just trying to,

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you know, I was like, hey, come on, man. Let's

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have a little fun. I

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mean, I'm excited about this

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episode because this is

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like something that I don't think about that

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much, but it's like it's like a debate

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in my head that I have all the

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time about whether or not this stuff is

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real. So I'm interested to, you know,

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like to delve into the people

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who have presumably decided that it is

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all 100% real, right? Yeah.

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And our guest this week is Jack

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Wagner. What's up, Jack? How's it

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going, guys? So

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very honored. We're good. We're pretty good.

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We're, you know, honored and scared. Staying.

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Yeah. I mean, I do feel

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like this could become a little bit of a

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spooky episode, a little scarier than some of, you

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know, some of the episodes. The

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only time we were going to go scary, we went with

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Halloween guys instead. We should have gone

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scary in October. Halloween. What is a

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Halloween? No. Well, there I

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have something in my head. Well, what they

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are is there people. Well, it depends because

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there are people who put up a lot

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of decorations and stuff like that. like really

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obsessed with the decorations. And some of them claim

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to be Halloween guys, but they're really not. Cause

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they just use inflatables and inflatables

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are bullshit. It's all year.

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It's the type of thing where like every,

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I mean, every family has like a person

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that has a thing they do every year

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that they use. They spend all year planning.

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Like you might have a fourth of July

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party and it's like this person

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does the fourth of July party every year you

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go over there. They have a keg, they have

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all that crap. Halloween guys

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plan for Halloween. And

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then it's time to shine. I thought

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you meant guys that are just into

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Halloween. Oh yeah.

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I mean, there's like a type where like

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the people who wear Jack Skellington hoodies. Oh,

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the people who are going like fully all

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year round. They're just kind of like, it's

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like the, you know, there's

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like a Venn diagram or something of

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between like the misfits, uh,

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Max, Skellington, the classic

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universal like horror movies,

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you know? Yeah. I mean,

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there's, there's definitely horror movie guys

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as well. I think that, yeah,

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it's listen, there's, and then there's,

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there's Count Jackula as well. If

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you really, Jack, if you really want

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to deep it, there's Count Jackula and

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he's a guy on YouTube who makes

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videos and he gets

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extremely sexually aroused for monsters

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and things like that. He's, he's weird. People,

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people who are listening know who Count

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Jackula is. Yeah. They keep

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saying bring Count Jackula back. And I'm

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like, I have to listen to, I

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have to watch a bunch of Count

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Jackula videos. And they're like, Oh, I

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like to Jack off to like horror

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movies where the monster rips her skin

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off. And it's like, I don't want

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to do that. As a people, the

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people dude, the people have been, you

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know, online, I definitely know before on the discord

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and stuff. There was a lot of talk of, you

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know, Don't bring back Jack, Jack, Jack, we want to

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see Jack. We'll get Jack back.

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But yeah, this is the scariest episode.

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I mean, we did horror movies, too.

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But I think this is the scariest episode because

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these guys are really going through some shit. I'm

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by by that, I mean, I'm saying

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that I believe everything they're all saying.

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OK. Yeah, they're. They

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believe it. I don't believe in aliens.

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Listen, I've said this a million times

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in other places. I'm I

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you like my rose. I. Are

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you holding a rose right now? Sorry, he does. Yeah,

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what is it? What

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is it? What makes it magic? He's

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so Jack. So he's into magic and stuff.

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People have been sending a magic tricks in

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the mail. And it seemed like it

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just appeared of nowhere. Well, he just picked it

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up off the table. I mean, it just appeared.

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Is that a rendition of Starry Night

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in the background? Yeah, Lego Lego. Oh,

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wow. Oh, no. I thought it was just like

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a no, no, we can't go down. It's

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a good one. It's a good Lego set.

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If you're ever looking to get started on

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Legos, that's Starry Night. That's a

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it's a little hard. It's a little advanced.

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So I'm looking at Jack's like background, like

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where he's living and sort of his decor.

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I can just say he's not looking to

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get into Legos. He never know. Yeah,

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you I would buy a one. You

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are a guy. Yes. Several. I'm

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every guy we've ever covered.

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But my magic napkin's

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gone. I can't find it. So I can't

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do the magic guy is a really funny

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guy. OK, before we get into this, I

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have a very strong memory. It's not

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that funny, but it was really funny to me. I

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was getting ice cream in Florida with my family. I

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mean, this is years ago. I think I was probably

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18 or something. Good place to get ice cream is

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very hard. And there is a man eating ice cream

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by himself, like a man, probably 45. And

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he was like sitting by himself by the window, just

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like some random guy. And like a

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little kid was kind of outside the window. And

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like wave to the man. The

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man waved back sort of like, you know, a classic

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kid interaction. But then he he like held up his

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finger like wait. And then he like

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did a thing where he like made a ball appear

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and then like to other and then like start doing

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tricks for this kid. Yeah, I was watching this unfold

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and it was just so weird to me because I'm

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like, wait, is

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this man just like walking around hoping

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a kid? Yes. Well, that's like he

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had he had the balls like they

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leave the entire day. He's a magician.

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He's a magician. Jack, we we learned

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about these people, too. We did magic,

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guys. And yeah, they are walking around.

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They are always constantly trying to find

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people to do their tricks, too. So

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they're like discussing where the appropriate times

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are to do it. If we find

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what? I think the thing

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we found most annoying about it is is

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that like because we talk about this on

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the bonus show, I think, where

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dudes are like, yeah, you know, I do magic

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tricks for the guys at work every day. And

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people are like, well, why don't you just do?

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And they're not impressed. And they're like, why don't

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you just do one a week? And then they'll

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be impressed because it's few and far between. Yeah.

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Like don't do magic tricks to people who don't

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want to because then they have to show wonder.

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You're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's

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not fair to someone to force

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them to show wonder. You wonder.

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Yeah. So

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I looked into a lot of alien guys. There

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are a lot of guys out there that

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believe in aliens. Now, one thing I did find

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that I can't get because it was it

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was a whole weird argument. It would have

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been hard to read, but there are a

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group of people in the alien subreddit who

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believe that the mods are aliens. Oh,

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wow. Well, that's I

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mean, listen, if you were like a

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heavy duty believer, it wouldn't

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be far fetched to think that the

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aliens would try to get a hold

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of this fucking subreddit of all subreddits.

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That's what this would be really disappointed

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if if they. did like extraterrestrial

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life came down and what they wanted to

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do is mod moderate Reddit. But

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Jack, they're not just wanting to mod any

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old Reddit they want to because they know

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this is a huge piece, you

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know, an area where information is

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being spread about aliens. If they

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can control that narrative online, then

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that could be very powerful for

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them. It's much more. It's much

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more on R slash UFOs because

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there are very strict rules on

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you have on the UFO subreddit.

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Like nobody wants to moderate a

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subreddit about themselves. No, that's the

8:35

worst thing in the world.

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Brian, you wouldn't you wouldn't want

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to be a mod on R

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slash murder. I

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wouldn't buy it hate when I even bring

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up that Reddit. That's

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the scary. There is one. Yeah, there

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is one. I don't have one personally.

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I have nothing that I will never

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see. It's about him. No, it's about

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him. The only, the only reason we

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ever found out about it was because some

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I, somebody was like came into the discord

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and was like, Hey, I don't get why

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all the people on the Reddit hate

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Chris so much. I was like, Oh man,

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I had no idea. You know? And

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then so I went and looked at it

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and, and yeah, there was apparently

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one for my show too. And I hate it.

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It's like, yeah, you just came to my existence.

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Just because it's like, there's

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like, it's like a nearly perfect reviewed

9:29

show, but there's probably like 12 guys

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out there who just have complaints about

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various episodes. And they, people

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have like Yelp instincts. I don't

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know why people have, they have, there's a Yelp

9:40

instinct in people's brain where they, they need to

9:42

go file a complaint somewhere instead

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of just moving on with their day. And watching

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them to another show that like, that's, that was

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always my point was like, Hey, if you listen

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to something else. Yeah. Like I'm the co-host. I'm

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not like, I'm the co-host of it. I get

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it. You don't like me a lot, whatever, but

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just go just find another one that you love.

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you like both the hosts, you'll be able to find

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it, I guarantee you know. That's a good point. I

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do have to say the main reasons

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that the aliens would be mods according

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to these guys is to post wacky

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stuff. And

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then, oh, to make

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them seem crazy. I think,

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I mean, you think that

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would be the aliens plan.

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It's smart. I'll tell you

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that if you're trying to

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hide, and you want to

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hide, you got to find,

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because listen, all alien guys

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are probably just on Reddit.

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I couldn't find a forum or anything. Yeah,

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Reddit is, I mean, the r slash UFO

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is a huge subreddit. It is like a

10:43

massive subreddit with a lot of members, millions

10:45

of members. Yeah. But it's got a lot

10:47

of rules. That's the problem with that one

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is they will just, if you say like,

10:51

I don't know, that seems like bullshit. They're

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like bounced. You're out of here. You're fucking

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banned. You're not allowed to say that somebody

10:58

might be somebody that comes on and

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says something like, here, I got one.

11:03

Like, like you're saying sometimes, okay, so

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sometimes people will say stuff that's like really, really

11:08

out there. And then if you sort of question

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it as being maybe like potentially

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like a delusional or something like that,

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then they'll come down hard on that.

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So let me read you this. This is, this

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is from r slash aliens.

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And this is the type of thing that

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somebody might call stupid and get

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kicked off the UFO subreddit

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for soft disclosure in

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recent movies. Anybody noticed some significant

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quote alien references in recent movies?

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Maybe I'm bringing too much into

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things lately, but I

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felt like sharing some thoughts. I don't mean to

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spoil the movies either. So I don't want to

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get too specific. Two main examples come to my

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head. The first being Dune two. I

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just thought the movie portrayed a lot

11:51

of anti gravity technology, which is advanced

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tech that supposedly obtained by non human

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things. And I forget what the NHI

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non-human some individuals more than I remember

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being mentioned in the novel. People repeatedly

12:03

jumping from spaceships and floating back and

12:05

forth between the ground and the ships.

12:08

I thought the humans on Dune had to

12:10

wait for extraction ships because otherwise the big

12:12

wormies would eat them. Obviously,

12:15

I know it's supposed to be sci

12:17

fi, but just seems like they portrayed

12:19

technology in the movie was different from

12:21

the book. My second example is

12:24

comes from Panda four. No. OK.

12:31

I love Jack Black and I love the

12:34

series, but I had to ponder some things

12:36

as I watched it with my kids. The

12:38

main villain is a chameleon, but still, they

12:40

literally call her a reptilian multiple times, not

12:42

a reptile, which is what a chameleon is,

12:44

but a reptilian. But she's

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not OK. She's they

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had to be more fights. But anyway,

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they opened portals to the spirit realm,

12:53

which to me was the source that

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the N.H.I. talked about. The villain also

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steals soul energy. Energy just makes a

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good. Yeah. Just makes a good fantasy

13:02

story, but made me raise my eyebrows

13:04

a little poe is helped by a

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gray. So,

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OK, so you've noticed that there's

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I do. I mean, wait,

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I do know I saw a

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movie called Aliens where there was

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some pretty strong messaging, I feel

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like, that led me to believe

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that aliens might be real as

13:24

well. Well, also in doing every

13:26

character in that movie is technically

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an extraterrestrial. Yeah, true.

13:31

Yeah. And I don't

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think it's ever specified that they're

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human. Oh, maybe maybe they Paul

13:37

Trady is being human. I don't know if that

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was ever specified. But

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even if it is, I mean, again, it's even

13:44

they say it's a sci-fi movie

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and book. I

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can tell you it has like alien,

13:52

even if they're not all it has.

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It has aliens in it. Sorry to

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anybody listening if they did specify in

13:58

a later book that. Paul Atreides is

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human or there. No, just don't get

14:02

mad at me. Also, nobody get mad

14:04

at me the entire... Don't

14:06

get mad at you. I've

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intentionally not waded into any

14:11

of the modern UFO theories,

14:13

really, on my show because

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there are so many and people get so

14:18

mad. Don't get dramatic about it. Do you

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believe in aliens, Jack? Do you believe aliens

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are real? I mean, belief

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is an interesting word. I don't... Here's

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what I'll say. I'm very open-minded. I'm willing

14:30

to be open

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to very, very outlandish things. That

14:36

being said, sometimes I'll

14:38

see stuff where their

14:41

line of thinking is very funny, like what we

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just saw with the movie thing. Kung

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Fu tag. Okay. Like if this

14:47

is real, why would they be seeding

14:49

out this information via Jack Black in

14:51

the fourth

14:54

Kung Fu Panda movie? Why'd they wait

14:56

till the fourth movie? Why didn't they?

14:59

Yeah. Have you heard

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this? We know for a fact that

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the Air Force has worked with Hollywood to influence

15:05

on movies. Which movies do your, in your opinion,

15:07

have some disclosed information in them? So I got

15:09

a list of those two. Well,

15:12

famously, recently, they were

15:15

involved in what's it called, right? The

15:18

Tom Cruise. Top down, yeah. No,

15:20

this is different. This guy says Stargate

15:22

SG-1 had an Air Force advisor. One

15:25

of my favorite shows of all time and probably has

15:27

tidbits and troops sprinkled in. Stargate.

15:31

There was like some sort of convention

15:33

at the hotel I worked at. The

15:35

Star Trek. No, no,

15:37

no. This was Stargate. It was with

15:39

Richard Dean Anderson, right? He was in

15:41

Stargate. I'm pretty sure. I mean, fucking

15:43

not Matlock. No, he's MacGyver. Yeah.

15:48

The guy from MacGyver was also in that because I

15:50

remember he was there at the hotel. It's

15:52

interesting because I don't think I believe, and

15:55

I know that in the place I

15:57

grew up, which is very rednecky, right?

16:00

that the thing that they would

16:02

say to you is you're fucking

16:04

stupid. If you think we're

16:07

the only planet with life on it. And

16:09

I always just kept it quiet that I was like,

16:11

I don't know about that. I

16:14

think we could be the only planet with

16:17

with life on it. And

16:19

like I am I'm as

16:22

as sort of atheist as you can

16:24

be without being super

16:26

like Ricky Gervais annoying. Like I

16:29

don't believe in anything really. I

16:31

just you know that that's

16:33

been that's been my thing. And it's the

16:35

world's dumbest guys that say that anyway. You

16:38

know, oh, you know, this guy. Let's

16:41

say for the sake of the episode that I believe. Nice.

16:44

Okay. You're going to be there like the

16:46

heavy duty believer. I will say that I'm

16:48

I feel like in seriousness. I'm similar to

16:50

Jack where I'm like I'm very open to

16:53

believing. But I do feel

16:55

like there would be some

16:57

level of concrete evidence. Well,

16:59

I think I have something,

17:02

you know, like something that was like concrete. But

17:05

I don't I don't know that you

17:07

could withhold that type of information in

17:09

the modern day. You know,

17:11

I don't know. Maybe I guess I

17:14

guess like I probably

17:16

do believe I have more more belief

17:18

than I don't believe. You know, it would actually be really

17:20

stupid of me to say that I don't know. But I

17:22

don't like it's not

17:24

my life. It doesn't. It is my life.

17:28

I mean, we're just like, well, I'm not

17:30

like falling asleep thinking about this stuff. Yeah.

17:32

Yeah. When you go out with people, this

17:34

isn't probably what you talk about. No, because,

17:36

you know, I go out with people. Yeah.

17:40

This guy wants them to continue inviting me out. This

17:44

guy says I read somewhere that Star Wars

17:46

was made to subconsciously imprint into the public

17:48

mind the truth that an

17:50

actual intergalactic war between a negatively

17:53

orientated E.T. Empire

17:55

and benevolent E.T. rebels actually occurred and

17:57

was the cause for the calamity on

17:59

Mars. Where did you read that?

18:01

Where did he read? He said that he read

18:03

that. So I'm wondering where he

18:06

read that if he could, you know, like own his

18:08

own notebook. He

18:11

did, you know, maybe cite your source

18:13

on that one. It's a pretty, pretty

18:15

bold claim to me. It,

18:18

I mean, and this guy says, uh, this

18:21

guy says, uh, a much more likely answer

18:23

is the movies take help from things like

18:25

the Air Force in order to not get

18:27

stuff wrong. It looks silly. There's no, no

18:29

need to suggest disclosure has anything to do

18:31

with it. So our OP gets back and

18:33

he goes, you looked at the reason for

18:35

one side and totally forgot to consider the

18:37

other one. Why does the Air Force help

18:39

out in many cases for free? Well,

18:42

obviously because they, they

18:45

want to like create some propaganda, you

18:47

know, on like low level propaganda is

18:49

what they're, you know, they want to

18:51

like create a good image of them.

18:54

So that's brought up here. This guy says,

18:56

because it's propaganda, make us look good and

18:58

we'll help you out and get things reasonably

19:00

accurate as a possible kids recruitment tool. Anyone

19:04

thinking that alien information was disclosed

19:06

by invasion earth or some other

19:08

programs or films is really low

19:10

on the intelligence spectrum, which is

19:12

such an alien guy. And then

19:16

our original poster comes back and says, it's already

19:18

been confirmed. We don't need your opinion on it.

19:21

Do they, here's the thing.

19:24

Do they all believe the,

19:26

the recent leaker guy? Um,

19:30

it seems like everybody sort of

19:32

believes, yes, they believe

19:34

that anybody that's been in front of

19:36

Congress, they believe they believe that Jimmy

19:38

Carter, they believe Jimmy Carter saw an

19:41

alien. Do you know that story? Yeah,

19:43

I do. So they believe he saw

19:45

an alien and that's true. And then

19:47

he has a dead man. Is he

19:49

dead yet? Is Jimmy Carter dead yet?

19:51

He's chilling surprisingly. Oh, they said he

19:53

has a dead man switch so that

19:55

when he dies, we're going to find

19:57

out what he found out that aliens

19:59

are God. Like that's how religion came.

20:01

Cause he said he saw video. He

20:04

was like, Oh, when I become president, all, all,

20:07

you know, declassify all the alien stuff, cause I

20:09

saw a UFO when I was a kid at

20:11

a lions club meeting or whatever, and then he

20:13

got to be president and he never did it.

20:15

And the reason he said he didn't is because

20:19

they showed him a video of aliens and it

20:21

made him cry. And he didn't think the world

20:23

was ready for it is my understanding

20:25

of the story. He's right. Though a

20:27

lot of at that time, a lot

20:29

of like men specifically were not ready

20:31

to cry at all. This

20:35

guy says, uh, how about this one?

20:37

This is, this guy goes, uh, captain

20:40

Marvel is one of the MCU projects

20:42

that the CIA is known to have

20:44

collaborated on the movie about shape-shifting aliens,

20:47

becoming war refugees on our planet, unbeknownst

20:49

to us. So that's,

20:51

you probably have, here's the thing. The

20:53

CIA probably did have their hands in

20:55

the Marvel movies, but like not for

20:57

that reason. Yeah. Yeah.

21:00

For sure. Yeah. Because they're again, like

21:02

they are involved in them, but it's

21:04

all for like propaganda, it doesn't have

21:06

anything to do. That's

21:09

the thing. Like I'm fully on board with

21:11

like conspiracy theories. Like many

21:13

of them are true. Conspiracies

21:15

are being done. There might be aliens.

21:17

Something is happening, but like, I don't

21:19

know like any of these

21:22

people about what it is. You know? Yeah. I

21:24

think it's interesting that they all believe that David

21:26

Rush guy, which maybe it's true, but I

21:28

wasn't super compelled when it came

21:31

out. I don't know if you guys know. I

21:33

don't know about just for anyone who's listening who

21:35

doesn't know it, what that leak is. Here

21:37

was the recent one he testified. It

21:39

was huge. You know, it was like, Tucker Carlson was

21:41

talking about it. Like this was like the biggest one

21:43

yet. It would be cool if it was real, but

21:46

you know, he, he was kind of doing the,

21:49

I have a girlfriend,

21:51

but you wouldn't know her. She goes to a different school.

21:53

But for aliens, he was sort of like, I have all

21:55

this info. I can't tell you about it. I

21:57

have so much to disclose. I'm disclosing. the fact

22:00

that I'm going to disclose it, you

22:02

know, kind of like. Yeah,

22:04

how DJs are like very exciting announcement

22:06

coming in two weeks. I'm here to announce that

22:08

there's going to be an announcement. It was just

22:11

like getting real high. It

22:13

was like he didn't really reveal too much. So it

22:15

was one of it was frustrating to me because it's

22:17

like, dude, if you're going to be a whistleblower, part

22:20

of that is you have to blow the whistle.

22:22

Yeah, you got to blow that. That's like part

22:24

of blowing the whistle. Otherwise, what are you doing?

22:27

Yeah. Do you know what a mantit is? Mantis,

22:29

a man tent. I know it has mantit and

22:31

man to ID because I saw

22:33

this. This is the most sort of I

22:37

was involved with an alien thing that I've

22:39

seen from all of my life

22:41

involved. Like you mean? No,

22:44

not that kind of it. But here it is. This

22:46

is called cheering up a mantid lucid

22:48

experience. Peranat never heard of a mantid.

22:50

Yeah, I've never heard of a man

22:53

to learn a little bit about a

22:55

mantid. And they're like mantis shaped aliens.

22:58

OK, come down here and do stuff. Anyway,

23:01

this guy says he was sober when this

23:03

happened. So don't it don't

23:05

have anything to do with alcohol or

23:07

weed or anything. He goes, something funny

23:09

and maybe illustrative happened tonight.

23:12

And now this is me. And

23:15

they go, they're getting a nice mind meld

23:17

with a mantid context. So this guy has

23:19

mind melded with a

23:21

mantid. And he goes, what do you mean?

23:24

He has. That's what he just says. He

23:26

says he's getting into a nice mind meld

23:28

with a mantid context. So he contacted one

23:30

mind melded. It's still over on

23:33

its planet. And he

23:35

says that the man said was obviously

23:37

stressed out and in a depressive mood.

23:41

And then he comes back and goes, tries

23:43

to remember times we've shared humor in the

23:46

past to help cheer up the mantid, but

23:48

conspicuously can't. Now we get to talking. He

23:50

goes, wait, where are you actively blocking my

23:53

memories of times we've shared humor in the

23:55

past? The mantid goes, because if

23:57

you remembered it, I would be forced to remember

23:59

it too. And I might feel better. And

24:02

he starts. This

24:04

this is this one is like even

24:06

if you're a believer, I do feel

24:08

like even the strongest believers are like,

24:11

hey, man, you need to like know

24:14

that someone you're not. We're

24:17

going to get to some replies that are like,

24:19

thank you for this. This is very important for

24:22

people to know. He goes, he

24:24

starts laughing. He goes, the human guy is

24:26

like starts laughing. He goes, that's the point.

24:29

The mantid is like immediately

24:31

feels a little better because of his strong

24:33

reaction and is thankful for that. And

24:36

then he requests that the alien unblock

24:38

the memory. The alien

24:40

will not unblock the memories, but leaves me to

24:42

the task of wiggling free of the mental block

24:45

on my own. And then

24:47

he wiggles free to find

24:49

an old pun about the mantid, quote,

24:51

bugging me and shared it. The

24:54

mantid is then pleased with their mood, further

24:56

improving, but keeps on working on something to

24:59

their end. And

25:01

so he cheered up an alien

25:04

by telling him a joke upon. And

25:07

he but the joke wasn't initially available

25:09

to him because the mantid had blocked

25:11

his memories through the mind mouth because

25:14

he was concerned with remembering it and

25:16

being cheered up because he wanted to

25:18

feel like he was in a bad

25:21

mood. Yeah. And David Looman

25:23

says my mantids have given me energy transactions.

25:25

One was distinctly humorous to me as I

25:27

was going through an especially difficult period of

25:30

work. I chose to lie down and

25:32

take a nap after work one day and I saw a

25:34

red curtain when I closed my eyes like in a theater.

25:37

Next thing I saw was my pink mantis dude

25:39

poking his head through the curtain and smiling, which

25:41

is weird because he has no mouth and I

25:43

could see I could see mouth that

25:45

I could see to smile, but I got smile

25:48

energy from him. Then I knocked out. I woke

25:50

up. I had a huge energy

25:52

infusion and felt so much better. So

25:55

like if the CIA or like

25:57

the Department of Defense did have

26:00

like alien technology

26:03

in some kind of bunker or bodies

26:05

or were in contact with the species

26:10

they would love this subreddit like this would be amazing

26:12

for them they wouldn't even do

26:14

anything they would just be like they'd check it

26:16

and be like alright perfect like nobody's ever gonna

26:18

believe this stuff ever. Well here's a problem here's

26:21

a guy that's kind of a little

26:24

bit he's skeptical he goes

26:26

I thought higher beings didn't have emotions

26:28

like humans it makes mantids feel lame

26:30

to me since they deal with depression

26:32

stress and emotion like they're so advanced

26:34

but it can't overcome negative emotion. No

26:36

I know why is he so bummed?

26:39

Yeah. He explains why he was bummed.

26:41

Yeah like but we don't even know what

26:44

kind of stresses a mantid could have we

26:46

don't even know what they could be dealing

26:48

with we don't we haven't we couldn't even

26:50

possibly even well the

26:53

OP says I'm not worried about that

26:55

I've already been there and back this

26:57

is not about sexual gratification my intentions

26:59

are more about sexual... whoa whoa whoa

27:01

whoa... This is an immediate reply to

27:04

that guy so... He's the

27:06

first... this is the first person... he's the first person

27:08

to make up sex. Nobody's mentioned

27:10

having sex with a mantid. Yo

27:13

bro it's not gay! It's

27:16

a mantid! They don't even have gender.

27:18

Like they don't like it's like has

27:20

a penis like thing but it's not

27:23

the same. Yeah and it could fuck

27:25

you in your head. It can

27:27

fuck you in your head. Fucking it's

27:30

like in your head with... Yeah mind

27:32

meld yeah. He goes uh

27:34

my intentions are more about

27:36

sharing my energy with other humans with intent to

27:38

heal it and lift them up I don't talk

27:41

to any NHIs I've never opened contact I don't

27:43

need oh this is a sex guy this is

27:45

a different guy well anyway I fuck

27:47

that up. Okay so so this this is

27:50

fair this person's starting their own threat about

27:52

having sex with mantids. Yeah and I must

27:54

have fucked that up. Let's go up to

27:56

the graze. Everybody knows

27:59

the graze. I

28:01

don't know the grades. That's a classic alien. Oh,

28:03

just a classic one with like the big eyes

28:05

or whatever. Okay. Yeah Let's

28:08

let's Take a look at

28:10

vegan bogan. I think that's

28:12

Australian that there are so many Australians in

28:14

this alien world Testing.

28:17

Yeah, that is interesting. It's

28:19

definitely Australian. Yeah, it means

28:21

like hillbilly or whatever Yeah in Australia, you

28:24

know, I'd ask Tom that actually I don't

28:26

I don't know if that's true. I can't

28:28

just you It is true Tom

28:31

Walker permit first time I saw gray

28:33

was in 1992 I had a

28:35

white glowing gray two feet away from my face staring

28:37

at me with its large almond shaped eyes It

28:40

also has two dots for a nose and it had a

28:42

tiny straight slip for a mouth It

28:44

was giving me intense happy happy joy joy

28:46

emotions and telepathically saying don't be afraid. We're

28:48

not gonna harm you Also,

28:50

it's weird, but it was telepathically smiling

28:53

at me. I thought it was the

28:55

most wonderful feeling I had ever experienced

28:58

Okay, that's I can't make fun of

29:00

that because that is pretty common with

29:02

like people who have seen Yeah,

29:05

even though it sounds silly. Yeah,

29:07

that that's I mean, I wonder though So

29:09

I was thinking about that right because I was

29:11

thinking like oh so many people have shared this

29:13

experience But it was also something

29:16

that was made public Pretty

29:18

early on like images like that. You know what

29:20

I mean? It was sort of the first images

29:22

that people had of aliens. So is there a

29:24

chance that it was sort of Placed

29:27

into people's minds a little bit in that

29:29

way, you know, and that's what they

29:31

say Yeah, I

29:33

mean not I don't tend to

29:35

believe that because there's a lot of references going back

29:37

to this like throughout history it was just the first

29:40

time mmm, it was interpreted

29:42

that way because it was like the birth of science

29:45

fiction and Entertainment really like I

29:47

see so so this is like these stories

29:49

are as old as these are used to

29:51

be like biblical people It associate them with

29:53

spirituality or religion, you know Yeah, but I

29:55

so that's what I'm saying though eat like

29:58

initially when they were told they were like,

30:00

were they not know they were like independent stories,

30:02

obviously, you're saying like from all different parts of

30:04

the world, it was like, so there would be

30:06

like, if you were to see something like that,

30:09

you wouldn't associate it,

30:11

you wouldn't have associated it

30:13

with aliens until there's materials

30:15

out there talking about aliens before you would

30:17

have thought like it was like a demon

30:20

or something like that, you know, and here

30:22

is here is somebody talking I

30:25

think this is like seeing aliens is like taking

30:27

a psychedelic for the first time and it's a

30:29

very bad trip. You're frightened, confused

30:31

and feeling sick from all the adrenaline, you

30:33

feel like death is near and you freeze

30:36

for a bit, your brain's trying to process

30:38

something bizarre. As you get back to your

30:40

senses, the alien is already feeling inside you

30:42

using its long appendages to explore you like

30:44

more explore really noodle of

30:46

noodle. Did he really say door the explore?

30:49

He did. Here he goes. Or yeah, say

30:51

it again. Sorry, I just heard appendages and

30:53

we are really obsessed with past the far

30:55

ends around here and they always say his

30:57

noodle appendage. Oh my God. Sorry,

31:00

sorry. People are gonna be real mad

31:02

at me for that for interrupt. He

31:04

goes using its long appendages to explore

31:06

you like Dora the Explorer. The only

31:09

similarity is that they're both aliens. There's

31:11

no map or backpack that can get

31:13

you out of this one. Oh, very,

31:15

very weird. Well,

31:18

this next person says I think they're very weak, but

31:20

they are low level enemies. So I don't care that

31:22

much. What do you mean? They're

31:25

just low level enemies who the grays

31:27

grace, but I think he thinks they're

31:29

weak. Yeah, there's a pain and

31:31

weak. We could just find one. He's like a

31:33

high level. Yeah. What is a

31:36

high level? I want to imagine sounds a little more

31:40

high level, but I don't know. Like I would

31:42

love to sort of see a chart that that

31:44

guy makes of like, I

31:47

would love to see a guy do the chart.

31:49

Well, we'll get to we'll do that right now.

31:52

This is you guys are gonna love this is

31:54

my favorite thing. And

31:56

the question is, if mankind

31:58

had to fight an alien species right now,

32:00

how would he do it? And

32:03

I've always felt like if I did see

32:05

a gray, I could just punch it to

32:07

death. They are very thin. And they don't

32:09

seem like when you see them move

32:12

around, it doesn't feel like their

32:14

bodies can really, you

32:17

know, fight. I

32:19

just feel like they could like, do

32:22

they would they have something like a move?

32:24

You know what I mean? That's like, that's

32:26

what I feel like they would just bust

32:28

something out there would just fuck you up,

32:31

you know, 100%. But they seem they seem

32:33

very, you're right, they seem unassuming. And

32:35

they seem like non threatening. But I

32:37

think that's by design probably true diplomacy

32:39

first, then when that doesn't work, bioweapons,

32:41

we send the dirtiest of dirt bombs

32:43

to bombard them with everything from the

32:45

common cold and COVID to straight up

32:48

anthrax and Ebola. Now

32:50

note, this wouldn't be my

32:52

plan. This is just what I think

32:54

would happen. The result would be they

32:56

bring some new disease to our planet

32:58

that we created like idiots and that

33:00

becomes a bigger problem. So he's written

33:02

a science fiction movie. Yeah, next. This

33:04

is a Yeah, this is a movie

33:07

plot. It's fucking war of the worlds.

33:09

The movie is this

33:11

is this what happens? Yeah,

33:13

I think they give the aliens a cold.

33:16

The common cold and the aliens die and we

33:18

should rewatch that. I haven't seen that in a

33:20

long time. I saw it. I saw it not

33:22

that long ago, a couple years ago, maybe I

33:25

believe that's where he got it. But I was

33:27

kind of like, you know, I wasn't really paying

33:29

attention. I was like kind of doing other stuff.

33:31

It was kind of on in the background. Yeah,

33:33

yeah, I think that's what because the next guy

33:35

just goes infect them with AIDS. Oh,

33:40

this guy goes not very fancy myself.

33:42

This is the LP not very fancy

33:44

myself. So someone correct me if I'm

33:47

wrong. If this is impossible. My first

33:49

idea is boil them. If a

33:55

planet exists that far away from the sun,

33:58

they have evolved to survive incredibly cold temperatures.

34:00

Our only advantage we have over them is

34:02

our sun. With enough

34:04

funding and research, I'm confident that

34:07

we could quickly develop a technology

34:09

such as thermal rays or sun

34:11

magnifiers, maybe thermal detonations, thermal detonations,

34:13

maybe whatever. Even nuking the planet's

34:16

poles, anything and everything required to

34:18

heat up the planet. Imagine

34:20

how screwed we would be as a planet

34:22

if someone heated our planet up. Oh, they

34:25

want the heat their planet up, by the

34:27

way. I've no fucking clue.

34:30

And I think thermal, they would use

34:32

the thermal gender. Absolutely

34:35

destroyed. By

34:38

any beings that would be able to come here. I think

34:41

we would be in trouble. But what about

34:43

if it was just the yeah, I mean,

34:45

the grays probably like the people the grays

34:47

are like a version of that species, but

34:50

they have like big ones too, you know,

34:52

but how do their planet that's the guy

34:54

is like, well, we can boil them. It's

34:57

like, how we would need

34:59

their technology. Yes, by the way,

35:01

like the one theme in almost all

35:04

encounters that people have with what they

35:07

think are extraterrestrials is that it's

35:09

like the extraterrestrials are begging us to stop

35:12

destroying our world. Yes, that is very

35:14

hard. And basically and being terrible to

35:16

each other. That's like the main message

35:18

is like stop doing pollution and stop

35:21

being terrible to each other. Yes. And

35:23

we're like, fuck you. Yeah. Yeah. I've

35:25

always said if I give me Bola

35:27

for that. How

35:34

about this one, Jack? Okay, maybe if you're gonna

35:36

make fun of the COVID guy, what about this

35:38

guy? I'd soften them up by sending a swarm

35:40

of 60% of the

35:42

nuclear arsenal Earth has while they're

35:45

in space. So we minimize damage

35:47

to our planet parentheses radiation 60.

35:51

What are we doing? The other boys holding 40%. Well,

35:53

we got to use those. We got to give those

35:55

to Ukraine. We've still got issues

35:59

at home. Yeah, you never know. I'd

36:01

save the rest for tactical nukes when they

36:04

land. When they do land, if nukes are

36:06

effective, start the nukes again. It

36:08

is not. Yeah, it is funny

36:11

to save 40 percent. Like like

36:13

that. There's a existential threat, an alien

36:15

race coming down to destroy Earth. And

36:17

we're like, well, what

36:20

if we have to do drop something in the

36:22

Middle East after the aliens, you know,

36:24

it's true. That is it. Like,

36:26

yeah, we got to look at it. Even

36:28

in this fantasy, like we still would not be united

36:31

as a human. Absolutely

36:33

not. Yeah, that's so

36:35

funny. I love what I love

36:37

when like people create a completely

36:39

fabricated like fantasy world and there's still

36:41

massive flaws. You know, well, listen to

36:43

this part. Start the nukes if they

36:45

land. If nukes are effective, start the

36:48

nukes again. And then in parentheses, he

36:50

goes, make it known that we take

36:52

our own planet before we'll ever be

36:54

slaves to them. Yeah,

36:58

just blow it like, yeah, we'll fuck

37:00

our own shit up. Well, that's

37:02

a cool idea. I mean, the

37:04

aliens are kind of like aliens are showing up

37:06

just like, hey, stop destroying

37:08

your planet. Like, stop hurting each other.

37:10

We're trying to give you support, give

37:13

you technology. What's that one movie? Close

37:16

to ground. No, it's a great movie where

37:18

they go up. Contact,

37:21

contact. Oh, yeah. How they're like trying to

37:23

give them technology to help the race and

37:25

like, you know, and then we're just like,

37:28

we'll blow our fucking own planet

37:30

up before we let you fucking

37:32

do that. You will not help

37:35

us out. OK, you know, after

37:37

they're softened up even more, send

37:39

in conventional bombing runs and literally

37:41

don't even let them have any

37:43

breathing room or relax in between

37:45

strikes. Well, such

37:48

a fucking stupid

37:50

fantasy. Child. Like

37:54

a kid that just learned about

37:56

nuclear weapons almost are like that.

37:59

Also like. What are we

38:01

even shooting these with? Like what

38:03

are we flying to launch

38:06

these things? They're talking of

38:08

as if we have like

38:10

combat space vehicles. Oh, well,

38:12

I think we don't have that. This is on

38:14

the planet. This is once they get there. This

38:16

is once they get there. So we're I think

38:18

we're going to be using all of our military.

38:20

This is once they've landed. We're using some more

38:22

of the nukes. Now we're dropping basically the basic

38:25

low over nukes. Yes. And basically what

38:27

we're trying to do, Jack, is we're

38:29

basically literally trying to not let them

38:32

breathe. And so that

38:34

probably would be what happened if we're

38:37

talking very seriously. Like imagine there's

38:39

some group of extraterrestrials and

38:41

they're like, let's go down and give

38:43

them our free energy machine that

38:46

will produce unlimited food so they don't have to work anymore.

38:48

They're coming down to give this to us. And we just

38:51

launch all of our nukes and completely

38:53

destroy our atmosphere. Everybody dies.

38:55

That would be that would be the end of

38:57

humanity. Oh, I could

39:00

see it happening. At least Americans. They

39:02

got to be cheering as well. Cheering it on.

39:05

While stealing from the Air Force,

39:07

hopefully keeping them pinned down, bring

39:09

out the artillery and start doing

39:11

work nonstop. Keep going till there's

39:13

no till there's surrender or nothing

39:15

left. If they're only 50

39:17

years ahead of us, they'd have to

39:19

have an almost infinite energy source, maybe

39:21

fusion to keep the war effort going.

39:24

In order to block our weapons, they

39:26

would have to have some kind of

39:28

energy shielding, maybe lasers or smaller missiles

39:30

to intercept. What

39:32

is this all just complete

39:34

fantasy from some dumb guy

39:37

sitting in his house, like even

39:40

if they have thick armor for space

39:42

travel, we can still get through it.

39:44

I'm sure with enough persistence, keep shelling

39:46

them and make sure they can't even

39:48

step outside, draw it out so they

39:51

run out of resources. Make it so

39:53

it gets either too expensive or Earth

39:55

gets so damaged. They don't want it

39:57

anymore. Too expensive. Yeah, too expensive. Too

39:59

expensive. We don't even know. if they

40:02

use like currency in this. This

40:05

is so these guys kind of

40:07

this guy reminds me of a zombie guy

40:09

kind of, you know, very much. Yeah, like

40:11

very much like a zombie apocalypse guy where

40:14

he's just like, created this entirely, you know,

40:16

this fantasy in his mind where just like,

40:18

I'll be the epic survivor. I'll

40:20

be the guy who does it all. And

40:23

like, he's imagining this as like a movie,

40:25

like Godzilla or whatever, some shit like that.

40:27

And he's like the main guy. He's like

40:29

the kind of guys, you know, all the

40:32

movies. Yeah. Well, we've got a, it's like

40:34

guys, guys that are just

40:36

like runners would survive the apocalypse. Yeah.

40:39

All those guys like can't run

40:41

a block. They would get it.

40:43

Can't run. Where are you going

40:45

to go? Like can't like, that'd

40:47

be the main thing. It would

40:49

just be whoever's fit would be

40:51

able to outrun the zombies. We

40:53

do have a voice of reason

40:55

here. Thankfully. Okay. Collective, aka common

40:57

hominid consciousness. The mind is

40:59

a terrible thing to waste. And personally,

41:01

I cannot fathom any more powerful force

41:04

than a determined mind. Perhaps

41:06

we concentrate collectively on a

41:08

target theme, peace or coexistence.

41:10

What else is there outside

41:12

of our physical reality that

41:14

holds enough oomph, which would

41:16

consider an indestructible physical

41:18

entity. So thinking he's some reason

41:20

kind of think about actually

41:23

not killing them. And yeah, this guy

41:25

is, this guy's the guy who gets

41:27

killed about two thirds of the way

41:29

through the movie. He tries to be

41:31

the voice of reason and stand up

41:33

and then a fucking huge grenade just

41:36

like it blows his ass up. Yep.

41:39

Yep. Probably he would probably be

41:41

like, it'd be friendly fire too. Yeah.

41:43

Oh yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. We'd be

41:45

one of us. This guy has two

41:47

options. He goes option one, nuclear weapons.

41:50

They remain our most powerful offensive

41:52

tool and all UFO UAP evidence

41:55

seems to imply that quote, they

41:57

are the particular threat. Take

41:59

that particular. threat very seriously.

42:01

Now, I don't actually

42:03

know how we know that they take

42:05

our nukes seriously. Well, there's like a

42:08

huge amount of sightings that take place

42:10

around nuclear bases. That's like, okay, that's

42:12

a really good idea. So that there,

42:14

that's the, I guess, but that's a

42:16

funny interpretation on the subreddit. Cause like,

42:19

I interpreted it as like, that

42:21

they're over watching us making sure we don't

42:23

do something stupid. Yes. And I

42:25

mean, a lot of people believe that by the way,

42:27

like that there's, there's also been like, in

42:31

history, there's been some moments where like nukes

42:33

have been almost launched by accident. And we've been

42:35

kind of saved as a planet by just like,

42:38

like a miracle, you know, basically, like it just

42:40

didn't work or something. But

42:43

there's a lot of people who think like, maybe they're kind of

42:45

looking out for us and making sure we don't blow ourselves up.

42:48

There's a lot of people that think it's us, by

42:50

the way. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw

42:52

the people who think that why it's not

42:55

that crazy, in my opinion. It's, I mean,

42:57

it's no crazier than thinking like, like,

43:00

they're always like, the first part

43:02

of evolution, I think always trips

43:05

people up, which it tricks me up to

43:07

like, the very first like bacteria

43:09

or whatever you're like, how did that get

43:12

here even? And like, I think like a

43:14

lot of people are just like, maybe we

43:16

skip that whole thing and then

43:19

get aliens here. Like it speeds

43:22

up the evolution because I think people have

43:24

a really hard time looking

43:26

at how old the earth is, you

43:29

know, if that if that makes sense.

43:32

This guy says option number two, biological

43:35

warfare, if we have a sample

43:37

of alien DNA, it might be

43:39

possible to tailor a virus to

43:42

eliminate anything lacking certain genetic markers,

43:44

president Earth life. And

43:46

then he goes, if both of

43:48

these options fail, then we have

43:50

to hope that the three world

43:52

superpowers America, Russia and China are sitting

43:54

on some really amazing uber powerful

43:56

top secret tech. I don't wish that

43:59

by the way, too. I love

44:01

the fact that this is like these,

44:03

these alien guys, these UFO guys

44:05

are like, I fucking hope that Russia

44:07

and China have some insane nuclear

44:09

weapons. Like that's not, yeah,

44:11

that doesn't seem like a good thing to

44:14

be for. The OP

44:16

does want to let you know,

44:18

I'm more leaning toward the bioweapon idea. Each

44:20

drone we send to Pluto costs around 700

44:23

million. I can't imagine we could win a

44:25

war when each of our bombs cost over

44:27

a billion dollars to fire, especially since many

44:29

will be blocked. Well, I don't, again, I don't

44:32

think money, like if we're battling against alien species,

44:34

I don't

44:38

think we're considering money

44:41

anymore. And that's, have you guys, have you guys read

44:43

the book Hail Mary? Have you ever heard of that?

44:45

I have. No, it's a really good book.

44:47

You guys would probably like it a lot. It's like, it's

44:49

about, well,

44:52

it's like the world is coming

44:54

to an end. Aliens are involved. But

44:57

it's like about this team that's like

44:59

assigned to, to solve the problem.

45:01

And like money is no longer an issue. It's, it's,

45:03

it's a, that's like, kind of the beginning of the

45:05

book is when they're like,

45:08

like humans are coming to terms with the fact that

45:10

like, it doesn't matter what we spend

45:12

on this type of thing. Like we have to, it's a

45:14

good book. You should just read it. There's no point in

45:16

me explaining a fucking book. I put

45:19

it on my Spotify. I

45:22

do think also like this

45:25

guy is assuming that we're going

45:27

to Pluto, which is the first

45:29

time somebody said like a planet,

45:31

like, because I think they're so

45:33

embarrassed by the word Martian because,

45:36

oh yeah, that's a thing.

45:38

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

45:40

Let me see if I can get here. Cause

45:43

there is a guy, actually let's look at

45:45

this first. Cause I think, I think you

45:47

guys will find this interesting. What

45:49

music would you introduce them to future?

45:53

This guy goes, I feel like deaf tones would blow their

45:55

fucking It

46:01

might blow their mind. What would you play an

46:04

alien? It might. I don't. I mean,

46:06

I might play a effects twin for an alien.

46:09

Why is that weird? Not weirder than deaf

46:11

tones. No, it's just relaxing. Nice. You know,

46:13

I'd play some like relaxing music just to

46:15

be like, hey, where, you know, we're we're

46:18

chill. We can be chill people as well.

46:20

I think that I think deaf tones would

46:22

blow their mind because I honestly,

46:24

I think their music or whatever they listen to

46:26

is probably so far. Like they would be

46:28

they would be actually blown away by the like,

46:32

by the deaf tones, like sound. It would be

46:34

so different to what they were used to. They

46:36

might not even use sound at all. Like that's

46:38

the funny thing. What

46:42

would you call corn? Yeah,

46:45

just slightly, slightly different. Yeah.

46:48

Yeah. Just to show them like, hey, we were

46:50

pretty, we're pretty cool guys. You would show them

46:52

a band with a guy called the monkey. His

46:55

name is monkey, not the monkey. You make

46:57

it sound like he's a monkey. This person

46:59

says classical would probably be a good place

47:02

to start, which that's what Chris was saying.

47:04

I like it. Yeah, it

47:06

is on. We have that disk that

47:08

we. What

47:11

is that big golden disk that we've like

47:13

sent into space? You

47:15

know about this? No, is it does

47:17

it play like it plays classical music?

47:19

There's some classical on it. Deft

47:22

tones. Okay. The Voyager

47:24

message. It's the Voyager message. It's.

47:28

Yeah, we got to play. Voyager carried a

47:30

phonograph record, a 12 inch

47:32

gold plated copper disk containing sounds and

47:35

images selected to portray diversity of life

47:37

and culture on Earth. Launched in 1977.

47:39

Both Voyager spacecraft began historic journey. Each

47:42

carried a unique time capsule along with

47:44

them. Jesse, what's on it? Yeah,

47:46

I would love. Yeah, I love the music. And

47:49

I can find a few for you

47:51

on this thread. This guy thinks cake

47:53

would be a good man. That is

47:55

I would give them full

47:58

permission to absolutely nuke our. planet.

48:01

If we is short skirt long. Yeah, that's

48:03

I was going to say that's the first

48:05

thing is that. Yeah. Yeah.

48:08

Beastie boys intergalactic. Well,

48:11

that's like you're now you're just being a

48:13

goofball. It's going to say Beastie boys isn't

48:15

the worst. Beastie boys are pretty good. You

48:17

know. Yeah. I

48:19

think that turns to others. Captain Hook

48:21

and first contact or the other one.

48:24

This is really these are really funny guys.

48:27

Yeah. Like to

48:30

be I think the funniest part about talking about

48:32

all this stuff is like, you know, if this

48:34

were true, everything we've

48:36

ever believed would no longer be true. Like

48:38

the all the everything would

48:41

be up like. Yeah, you're saying that

48:43

all the rules are really funny to

48:45

be like to like be pondering these

48:47

great questions and still think like would

48:50

it death tones or show them?

48:55

Such a crate like when I saw. I

48:58

think the depth towards albums like which

49:01

one should would be like these multi

49:03

dimensional beings like possibly crossing time. Do

49:05

you think they might be real as

49:08

a result of this news, you know,

49:10

like. Yeah. Just

49:12

like which sublime record would be

49:14

the dopest aliens? Like

49:17

do you think they would like sabotage? Like

49:19

you'd have to show them the video, obviously,

49:21

you know, showing. All the songs

49:23

about you guys. It's

49:26

funny just about you. It's

49:29

so funny that that is just like a

49:31

guy whose favorite band is deaf

49:33

tones. He probably spends most of his

49:35

time on our deaf tones and

49:37

then he came over here. It's like I'd show

49:40

the aliens deaf tones and like, listen, they're

49:42

pretty popular for the kind of

49:45

music that they make. Like they're

49:47

respected. So I do get like

49:49

they're the most respected kind of

49:52

band from that scene. No, I love the

49:54

deaf tones. Yeah, they're great. Would

49:57

I show it to an alien? I don't think I

49:59

would be thinking. about the deaf tones. If I know,

50:01

no, I mean, I wouldn't show. I

50:04

think like if they're here,

50:06

they're watching us. And they've heard

50:08

deaf tones. Yeah. They

50:11

might be in the deaf tones. They

50:14

might already like them, which may, I mean, that

50:16

would, that would be pretty lucky. That

50:19

would be pretty lucky for us if there

50:21

was like a alien species that came over

50:23

and they already were into deaf tones and

50:25

we didn't have to sort of like bridge

50:27

that gap. So, okay,

50:29

to get heady on you guys in

50:32

a non-funny way, like there is this

50:34

line of thinking that extraterrestrials

50:37

can communicate telepathically, right? So

50:39

that theoretically you could

50:42

reach this state where you can receive information

50:44

or whatever. Some people

50:47

even think like creativity itself could

50:49

be coming from like an outside source. Does that

50:51

make any sense? Yeah, yeah. Like a,

50:54

like a mantid or something like that mind melding

50:56

like we listened to earlier. Or who knows where

50:58

it's coming from, you know, but like if you

51:00

read like Nikola Tesla's autobiographies, he describes like having

51:04

schematics for inventions like appear in his head

51:06

out of nowhere, like complete. There's

51:08

pop into his head, complete. And he could see

51:10

everything. But if

51:12

we follow that line of thinking, the

51:15

deaf tones could be receiving these songs from

51:18

aliens in the first place. That is a

51:20

really good point. Or from God directly. So

51:22

then you like play them and then they're

51:24

just like, oh my God, this is so

51:26

fucking embarrassing. Yeah, I fucking wrote this. This

51:29

is awkward. This

51:32

is awkward. That's like, I wrote that

51:34

and it's like, I don't even like

51:36

it anymore. I'm like onto different type

51:38

of music. Way more advanced. Can I

51:40

also read this? Cause we

51:42

were doing, I was doing the guys that, what

51:44

do you do if we got to kill the

51:46

aliens? And the last guy in the thread goes,

51:49

make aliens taxable under the

51:51

IRS fed tax code. They

51:53

will flee with all of

51:55

their assets. So that guy's

51:57

having some tax issues. Okay,

51:59

so you have the playlist

52:01

of the disc

52:05

up, Jack? Oh,

52:13

actually, I actually clicked out. Let me

52:15

get it. I don't want. I got

52:17

really distracted by, um,

52:19

yeah. So I mean, it's

52:21

not necessarily music. It's like

52:23

Morse code information. I think

52:25

that's bullshit DNA information about

52:27

the solar system. Human reproduction.

52:31

Okay. There's a Bach song on

52:33

there. Um, a

52:35

Mozart song played by the

52:37

Budapest string quartet. Okay.

52:40

Stravinsky. Um, Brian

52:42

looks so fucking mad. The

52:44

disc also includes music by

52:46

Guan Pinggu, blind Willie

52:49

Johnson, Chuck Berry. Okay.

52:52

Uh, Kesar. I'm going to murder these pronunciations

52:54

guys. Uh, Kesar by Car

52:56

Car. Okay.

52:58

Maybe it may be like an Indian. Laurie

53:02

Spiegel, electronic music. Can you

53:04

do we know Laurie Spiegel? No. Look

53:07

that up. Spiegel's

53:10

being got a shape playing

53:12

in space. Oh, this is, well, this is

53:14

also 1973 or something. So

53:17

very early electronic music. Oh

53:19

yeah. Yeah. She's one

53:22

of those like people that sits at

53:24

the, uh, that like have those huge

53:26

synthesizer boards that makes music. I could,

53:28

I could show you the,

53:30

uh, you'll, you'll, you'll

53:33

definitely have seen it before. Wait.

53:37

Oh yeah. The select, Oh wait, get this, get this.

53:40

The selection of music for the record was

53:42

completed by a team composed of Carl Sagan

53:44

as a project director. There's

53:46

a bunch of different names, but then here's

53:48

something interesting. The very end. Uh,

53:53

Tim Timothy Ferris as

53:56

producer and Jimmy Iveen as sound engineer.

53:58

Oh, Jimmy Iveen. mixed.

54:01

Wow. Can I ask

54:03

like, isn't that crazy? Yeah,

54:05

it is crazy. And he was,

54:07

he must have been young. Yeah.

54:10

Let me just say the reason I looked mad is because

54:13

if the aliens get a hold of that, we're going

54:15

to look like fucking dorks. Like you got to put

54:18

some kind of hip. You got to have something hard.

54:20

You got to have something hard on there. And

54:22

it is the 70s. I think it was 77, but

54:24

there was already some pretty heavy shit, you know, like

54:26

that you could have put on there. Led

54:29

Zeppelin. You could put on

54:31

Iron Maiden. Iron Maiden. No,

54:34

no, none of that. This

54:37

was pretty early. We

54:39

should just send another one up with good music

54:41

on it. Yeah. Oh, 77.

54:44

My bad. But they probably were getting to

54:47

work on this early, you know? Yeah, it

54:49

didn't happen just all in the 70s. But

54:51

we should like do a fundraiser to

54:54

shoot a better disc up into space.

54:56

I think is really because like I

54:59

feel like we could ask Elon Musk to do

55:01

that, but he would just send Joe Rogan up

55:03

there. The JRE. Do

55:07

you guys think aliens or not? Sorry,

55:10

I just have a real good joke. Yeah, send

55:12

them up there in the comedy mothership. That's

55:14

good. I had to stop

55:17

for that one. We have things like

55:19

me. Do you think they have music

55:21

trinkets and art? I rarely, if ever

55:23

hear of them showing they have any

55:25

kind of culture beyond advanced technology or

55:27

maybe spirituality. And

55:30

this guy goes, I think this is true.

55:32

We watch the Godfather and they watch us.

55:34

I've heard someone describe what it's like for

55:36

them to watch an individual on Earth. They

55:38

can watch dozens, hundreds more at the same

55:40

time. They see intersecting lines

55:43

more than one and it's polyphonic.

55:45

I think it takes lower intelligence to be

55:48

one person and listen to Mozart. They can

55:50

be more than one person at the same

55:52

time and listen, watch experience more than one

55:54

thing at the same time. Mozart

55:57

would be like ant hills to them.

56:00

It's a passing glance. I

56:02

think the principles in Mozart's songs. How much

56:05

Mozart do you think this guy's listened to?

56:08

Zero. Zero. He's

56:10

listening to Defto. He's

56:14

listening to like Led Zeppelin and stuff.

56:16

He just he's like he goes. So

56:18

when Mozart writes from the heart and

56:20

he parentheses and Mozart apparently was chanting

56:23

alien intelligence, higher mind when he did

56:25

this, when he did his thing and

56:28

tells an amazing story. They're aware of

56:30

that. The consciousness aspect

56:32

to you, APs is actually the

56:35

whole aspect. When you write

56:37

a great opera or play piano. Well,

56:39

it's only great when people are captivated

56:41

and moved by the story of it.

56:43

This is what aliens are doing. The

56:46

most captivating, moving shit of all time.

56:49

Next guy just says, do you show cows your art?

56:54

Wait, what? You

56:57

show cows your art. I mean, I

57:00

see a point. OK.

57:03

Yeah, this guy goes, see, the

57:05

thing is, we're going to create

57:07

advanced AI way before we will

57:10

ever create tech capable of intergalactic

57:12

travel. Well, we

57:14

know that advanced AI will exterminate

57:16

all human life. Yeah.

57:21

I love the assumptions that we get to

57:23

go on with these guys. They're like, we

57:25

all know what's going

57:27

to happen. And it's like, I didn't know that. So

57:30

the alien don't have art, music, et

57:32

cetera, because they're drones, avatars of an

57:34

AI, which has no use for us.

57:37

It may have access to cultural

57:39

reference of such. It may even

57:41

be curious about culture and biological

57:43

civilization. Hence why they visit. But

57:46

I would be very surprised

57:48

if any other civilization will

57:50

become intergalactic travel capable without

57:52

having made the mistake of

57:54

creating AI, which will ultimately

57:56

first exterminate all biologicals trying

57:58

to control or restore. I

58:01

think I just got it.

58:03

Yeah, sorry. I realized why I hate

58:05

the this. It's

58:07

like so annoying to me is because it

58:09

very well might be true. And like I

58:11

said, I'm open to believing and it sounds

58:13

like Jack has some knowledge on it. And

58:16

like the stuff that Jack has been saying,

58:18

it leads me to believe more that there

58:20

could be something. But if it is true,

58:22

it is so fucking complicated. And

58:24

it is so it would be so difficult

58:26

to understand and discuss even for

58:29

the smartest person in the world, you

58:31

know, even if they have all the

58:33

knowledge. And this is the dumbest guys

58:35

with none of the discussing

58:38

it in depth and using all of

58:40

these really technical sounding shit. And it

58:42

is just fucking you have to realize

58:44

at the end of the day is

58:46

it's like just all of their fantasies.

58:48

They are just like they're maybe going

58:51

off of some zombies, but it's just

58:53

like it's a bunch of fantasy bullshit.

58:55

And like some very uncreative and like

58:57

a very limited view of what would

58:59

be possible where I'm very fascinated, but

59:01

it often goes negative very fast.

59:04

Like to me, to me,

59:06

it's exciting because like if there

59:08

was some kind of advanced

59:10

group able to get to us, give

59:13

us information, even if it was like telepathic,

59:16

that would be incredible. Imagine they even gave

59:18

us a power source that was just a

59:20

little bit better than what we have now.

59:23

Absolutely. And it was what we could

59:25

do have unlimited food. They

59:27

don't think we're on the level to because

59:29

I've seen a lot of people say, well,

59:31

we're just we don't have anything to give

59:33

them or the

59:35

other thing that they say is like,

59:37

well, we could give them minerals

59:40

because they we can give them gold

59:42

and silver and maybe they'll give us

59:44

their technology. And it's like, that's not

59:48

isn't going to work. That's why they think gold

59:50

and silver are worth money. That like the

59:54

people in charge use the golden silver to

59:56

trade with the aliens. And

1:00:00

I'm like gold and silver doesn't

1:00:02

even make sense to be currency here. Yeah

1:00:08

There's been like isolated tribes

1:00:10

that were using seashells recently

1:00:14

Eventually arbitrary. I I said

1:00:16

that to my uh, I

1:00:18

said that to my father-in-law once cuz he

1:00:21

was buying all this fucking silver And

1:00:23

I was like what you got sleep on a

1:00:25

pile of silver when the world ends like there's

1:00:28

nothing But he's now you

1:00:30

know in a living in a chicken coop

1:00:33

and shit in a bucket So it's just

1:00:35

like like water and weapons You know what

1:00:37

I mean really if you're really getting down

1:00:39

to it I think at the end of

1:00:41

the day That's the stuff that you really

1:00:43

want to have if the actual world is

1:00:45

ending, you know, and it will be if

1:00:48

to get here They would need anti-gravity

1:00:51

Yes, it's like basically the thinking or

1:00:53

that they're not even physically here. It

1:00:55

would be like all telepathic Yeah,

1:00:57

which is also cool. I mean, that's

1:00:59

I kind of like thinking down

1:01:02

that path or sending drones

1:01:04

I think a lot of them think the

1:01:06

grazer drones is what I

1:01:08

what I've seen I If

1:01:10

it was all telepathic though, that would be to

1:01:12

me. That would be a really really scary like

1:01:15

terrifying even if it was a positive

1:01:17

thing because of like It

1:01:20

would seem like people are having delusions like people

1:01:22

are like, you know Like it would be this

1:01:24

huge like I just think like the impotations. Here's

1:01:26

how I think of it Here's

1:01:28

how I think of it. Like if

1:01:30

you when people get implants when

1:01:32

deaf people get implants that allow them to

1:01:35

hear It's like very very there's other in

1:01:39

There's other implants you can get if you're having issues with

1:01:41

other Well,

1:01:46

okay So it's

1:01:49

really really bad at first until your brain

1:01:51

learns to use it so like if we

1:01:53

were sending signals back

1:01:55

to ourselves in time like if somehow we figure

1:01:57

out how to do that later or we have

1:01:59

like some kind of device that lets us do

1:02:01

that. Like receiving those

1:02:03

would be really confusing

1:02:05

and probably poorly

1:02:08

interpreted, like our brains. So

1:02:11

like it could be that our brains

1:02:13

are just we're seeing

1:02:15

this stuff and can barely

1:02:17

process it. And that's kind of

1:02:19

the strange stuff that people see, you know,

1:02:22

and the mixed messages. Yeah. And the

1:02:24

messages could be thought like, the way

1:02:26

it sounds to me is like, the

1:02:28

questions could be thoughts that you're already

1:02:31

having. The answers to

1:02:33

the questions could be thoughts

1:02:35

you're already having because you're hearing it

1:02:37

and you're feeling it. And it's not

1:02:39

like we aren't going to be speaking

1:02:41

English back and forth with each

1:02:43

other. There's not like a language. No.

1:02:46

Where and they never think of that either. Like

1:02:48

they never think of the fact that like, no,

1:02:51

talking is probably not going to

1:02:53

happen. Or

1:02:56

even sound at all. Like you think about

1:02:58

it like sound. We

1:03:01

can only hear a tiny portion of sound

1:03:04

waves. We can only see a tiny portion of light

1:03:06

waves. So like there's a chance we wouldn't even be

1:03:08

able to like see these things. It

1:03:10

could be, you know,

1:03:13

or vice versa. So this

1:03:15

is an episode of guys. So what we have, I'm

1:03:17

sorry. They might not be able

1:03:19

to hear the, the deaf tones. That'd

1:03:23

be my hell. Really? If I kill

1:03:25

myself immediately. Well,

1:03:30

we can't do a episode of guys

1:03:32

without this. My wife asked me about

1:03:34

UFOs. My

1:03:37

wife has known that this topic was my

1:03:39

hobby, but paid little heed to it. Didn't

1:03:41

ask any such a weird way

1:03:43

to talk. These guys, she

1:03:46

wouldn't pay heed. And there was a

1:03:48

guy earlier that used whilst wild. I

1:03:50

don't know. Just, and this isn't for

1:03:53

UFO. This is like Reddit posters, not,

1:03:55

not UFO guys. That's how Reddit posters

1:03:57

talk. He goes, didn't ask any questions.

1:03:59

would hum. She goes, I paid

1:04:02

little heed to it. Didn't ask any questions and

1:04:04

would hum the X-Files theme song whenever she's seen

1:04:06

me on Reddit. So mocking you. Yeah. I tried

1:04:08

to tell her about it, but she doesn't have

1:04:11

the bandwidth or interest to take it in. And

1:04:13

honestly, how could you blame her? It's such a

1:04:15

rabbit hole. But last

1:04:17

night, one of her Instagrams parentheses

1:04:19

don't know anything about Instagram. So

1:04:21

this guy didn't know anything about

1:04:24

Instagram. Cause you know, it's a

1:04:26

form, you know, she, he

1:04:28

is getting cheated on ramp. I've

1:04:31

done a really good job summarizing the

1:04:33

hearings. She asked good questions about the

1:04:35

tic tac David Grush and why the

1:04:38

U S Congress was so interested. She

1:04:40

wasn't impressed when I hummed X-Files to her,

1:04:42

which shows an immediate change of attitude. It's

1:04:46

working. Um,

1:04:49

this guy goes, I'm noticing that in today's

1:04:51

social media age, no one cares about anything

1:04:53

until everyone starts caring about it. And it

1:04:56

catches your attention on social media. So this

1:04:58

guy's smart. I mean, he goes, this

1:05:00

was more than likely the whole point of

1:05:02

the hearing. I knew

1:05:04

from looking at this subreddit that the

1:05:07

info given at the hearing would not

1:05:09

be anything new, but it inject new

1:05:11

content for Instagram, Facebook, and tic tac

1:05:13

as people can now point to a

1:05:15

credible source, such as Congress to

1:05:18

push the info. This is starting to

1:05:20

go mainstream. This seems

1:05:22

like a fundamental from, from what

1:05:24

you said, Jack, a fundamental misunderstanding,

1:05:26

misunderstanding of what happened in Congress.

1:05:29

Yeah. That like they have

1:05:31

now done a hearing in

1:05:33

Congress and

1:05:35

they've agreed that aliens

1:05:37

are real, like that Congress officially

1:05:40

said it. I like how that

1:05:42

Congress is suddenly respected. Like, you

1:05:47

know, it depends. I have to guess that

1:05:49

a lot of these guys do not have

1:05:52

much respect for the government, which is

1:05:54

a correct way to view the government, you know,

1:05:57

but like, it's funny to

1:05:59

think that like. these people in Congress

1:06:01

have some kind of great

1:06:04

understanding of like the inner workings

1:06:06

of you know, these defense contractors

1:06:08

and things like that and And same

1:06:10

with like the David Grush guy. I'm just amazed

1:06:12

that like For all of the

1:06:14

the wild thoughts that are going on in these

1:06:16

forums It seems like everybody's fully on board with

1:06:18

that guy. Oh, yeah He goes don't be surprised

1:06:20

if all the people who said I don't care

1:06:22

come back to you now ask them what you

1:06:25

know How you know it and why you didn't

1:06:27

tell them sooner The other

1:06:29

downside to social media that I see is

1:06:31

the race to be the first with info

1:06:33

or to Info to spill

1:06:35

even if it's false info. Well, that's true. That

1:06:38

can be that is true It's the way that

1:06:40

people report now, you know I mean they try

1:06:42

to have that breaking news and they might not

1:06:44

verify sources You know, that's true across the

1:06:46

board not just with UFOs, you know, well

1:06:48

King Machado says it's a

1:06:50

disease. This is the only social media

1:06:52

platform. I have not heard it's not

1:06:54

sure how you designate designate

1:06:57

reddit by

1:06:59

the way, I heard I Heard

1:07:02

like from some people I know that the reason

1:07:04

that David Grush thing

1:07:06

got debuted on News Nation is because like

1:07:09

it was brought to the New York Times

1:07:11

Washington Post everywhere and like it

1:07:13

didn't pass fact-checking and yeah Yeah, they weren't

1:07:15

willing to let it be fact-checked all the

1:07:18

way either News Nation is

1:07:20

such a fucking weird Like

1:07:23

it's that was when I they kind of lost me a

1:07:25

little bit I was like, why is

1:07:27

this coming out on News Nation? News

1:07:29

Nation they like an airport

1:07:31

news. It's like a fake Thank

1:07:35

you station. Like it's like yeah, like the

1:07:37

one you see in the movies. It's like

1:07:39

Skymall like yeah Is

1:07:41

how I felt, you know, I don't

1:07:43

know If this guy goes reddit

1:07:45

is my only source of social media and

1:07:48

I don't use it like others use social

1:07:50

media I use reddit as a form of

1:07:52

information on topics that people are directly involved

1:07:54

with If I want to know

1:07:56

more about the real estate market, I go and hunt down

1:07:58

the real estate subreddit to get information Granted,

1:08:01

Reddit has its own problems and depending on

1:08:03

how you use it can lead towards

1:08:05

the same issues that Facebook and other social

1:08:07

media websites could have as well. But

1:08:10

your case has to be similar. I

1:08:12

do want to say that now the

1:08:15

idea that the information

1:08:17

on Reddit is accurate.

1:08:22

Yeah, they don't make you incredible. You

1:08:24

don't have to post your real estate

1:08:27

license to post on there. You

1:08:29

know, you can just post anybody composed on

1:08:31

there. I could go and say completely bullshit,

1:08:34

complete nonsense on there, and then I could

1:08:36

have a bunch of other accounts and upvoted

1:08:38

a bunch of times and replied to it,

1:08:41

corroborating it if I wanted to. It's

1:08:44

almost like entirely people doing creative

1:08:46

writing on there. Oh yeah. It's

1:08:48

totally lies. Like even doing this

1:08:50

show, it's like people

1:08:53

send me a lot of, am I the

1:08:55

asshole posts and stuff? Those

1:08:57

are all made up. I appreciate it, but I think

1:08:59

they're all fake. So like, I

1:09:01

just don't use them. You know, the

1:09:03

only subreddit that's true is the Swingers

1:09:05

subreddit. Swingers subreddit, they're

1:09:08

very honest in there. Very honest.

1:09:10

Yeah. That's, and by the way,

1:09:12

like most paranormal

1:09:14

shows source their stuff

1:09:17

from Reddit. Oh yeah. Or they're just

1:09:19

reading stories from Reddit without telling people

1:09:21

that's what they're doing. Yeah. And

1:09:24

like, I don't do that mostly

1:09:26

because it's really hard to track people. I

1:09:28

tried before I started the show,

1:09:31

but like it's really hard to track down Redditors.

1:09:33

And then also the fact that like, I think almost

1:09:36

all of them are made up. Yeah. Yeah,

1:09:38

I agree. And,

1:09:40

um, yeah, it's just like a

1:09:43

complicated, like murky bunch of people.

1:09:47

It's bad. It's not good. Yeah.

1:09:50

Not like, I don't know. I'm

1:09:52

very grateful that I don't have to engage with Reddit

1:09:54

on my show. You

1:09:56

know, it's not like it gets

1:09:59

out. hand, like there are times

1:10:01

where like it's just all Reddit

1:10:03

because there are certain subjects where

1:10:06

that's where the people are. But a

1:10:09

lot of times I try to, you

1:10:11

know, go to Quora or like find

1:10:13

a forum or something like that. But

1:10:15

this just the posts on Reddit were

1:10:17

funnier this time. Yeah, this one's all

1:10:19

Reddit. I mean, this is the Reddit

1:10:21

is where this type of discussion happens.

1:10:24

Definitely. Right. Most people think this guy

1:10:26

goes, most people think of it as

1:10:28

Bigfoot or something, which why don't you

1:10:30

throw shade at the cryptozoologists? You know,

1:10:32

you can. Yeah. Oh, those guys

1:10:35

that believe in Bigfoot are fucking stupid. A

1:10:39

mammal. Yeah, a large

1:10:41

mammal. Completely within the

1:10:43

realm of possibilities. It's

1:10:46

just like unlikely. But

1:10:48

very, like the rules

1:10:50

of the universe, the known laws of

1:10:52

physics wouldn't be altered. No. Yeah. It

1:10:56

wouldn't like you mentioned earlier how the world would

1:10:58

be different if Bigfoot was real. It would fuck.

1:11:01

It would be like crazy, but it wouldn't change

1:11:03

the world in the same way. No, like if

1:11:05

we like found out that there was some alien

1:11:07

race that like built the

1:11:09

pyramids, oversees everything, can hear our

1:11:11

thoughts like basically a God. God

1:11:14

is real. It's an

1:11:16

alien. Or there's like a big kind of

1:11:18

gorilla looking guy out in the world. Yeah.

1:11:20

But I'm always fascinated when it's like something

1:11:23

that would completely change everything. And yeah, just

1:11:25

go to the deaf tones line of thinking.

1:11:27

But like, yeah, I think you could just

1:11:29

play them greatest hits or would you want

1:11:31

to go out and buy all of them?

1:11:34

Could they go around the fur maybe

1:11:36

white pony because it's kind of a

1:11:39

little more complex. Yeah, you'd want it.

1:11:41

You'd want them to smoke first, obviously.

1:11:44

You'd wonder like what could they like what

1:11:46

they would edibles be? That would be so

1:11:48

funny if you you smoke out an alien

1:11:51

and he dies. One

1:11:55

weapon a million years to get here.

1:12:01

Yeah, that's the

1:12:03

weapon. All those people are like, let's

1:12:05

give them COVID. Let's shoot nuclear weapons

1:12:07

and one guy just smokes weed. That

1:12:09

would actually be a sick plot for

1:12:11

a movie. Yeah, that would be you

1:12:13

have to have so much weed that

1:12:16

only true stoners could like handle operating

1:12:18

the weapons. So the military would have

1:12:20

to be real stoners. Yeah, like tolerance.

1:12:26

That would be so good. This guy goes,

1:12:29

my wife thinks I'm crazy for having interest

1:12:31

in the hearings. Her excuse

1:12:33

is always crazy Americans talk crazy

1:12:35

shit. Even when I told her

1:12:37

that the witnesses are ex-military men

1:12:39

under oath, she didn't care. Even

1:12:42

more reason to not believe that. Holy

1:12:45

shit, that didn't like it. And

1:12:48

this guy goes, just wait until it

1:12:50

hits her Instagram. So that post right

1:12:52

there is the how

1:12:54

many hair straighteners does she have? Yeah,

1:12:56

she'll get it when it hits her

1:12:59

Instagram feed when she's looking through all

1:13:01

her mom fluence or like that. That's

1:13:03

how a guy's talk about. They love

1:13:05

to minimize women and wives to. Yeah.

1:13:08

Meanwhile, those women are probably engaging

1:13:11

with material that would blow their fucking mind

1:13:13

on a daily basis. I

1:13:15

cast that are like more horrifying or

1:13:18

mind blowing than anything they

1:13:20

could ever imagine. And

1:13:22

finally, our last post here is a

1:13:24

guy that is very not self-aware. I

1:13:27

will say this because my

1:13:29

wife is a professor and smarter

1:13:31

than me. And she has an

1:13:33

almost violent aversion to hearing anything

1:13:35

about this. She is

1:13:37

really bothered by the concept and will

1:13:39

find any excuse not to listen to

1:13:41

the hearing and grushes testimony. So

1:13:43

my wife's incredibly smart. She has

1:13:46

like a, she's, she's got a

1:13:48

PhD. She's as smart as they

1:13:50

come. And she thinks this is

1:13:52

stupid, which I think makes her

1:13:54

stupid. Yeah. She, and

1:13:57

listen, there's a chance too

1:13:59

that she. like doesn't necessarily

1:14:02

think it's all not true, but maybe

1:14:04

is also annoyed by her husband constantly

1:14:06

talking about it when she just wants

1:14:08

to talk about other stuff, maybe. I've

1:14:12

talked about it, those conservative guys that

1:14:15

end up super lonely, like

1:14:17

they don't have anybody, they won't talk, they'll

1:14:20

just keep talking about one subject. They'll

1:14:22

keep talking about Trump all the time. And

1:14:25

like anybody can really fall into

1:14:27

that. We've talked a

1:14:30

lot about the Rock and Roll Hall of

1:14:32

Fame and being how you have to have

1:14:34

discipline to not sort of engage

1:14:36

with debates about the Rock and Roll

1:14:38

Hall of Fame. Every

1:14:44

time, because you're like, oh wait, that band's not

1:14:46

in there, what the fuck? Yeah, we're making fun

1:14:48

of the people for caring so much about it,

1:14:50

but then we'll go over the list of who's

1:14:52

not in, and we're like, well, they should, I

1:14:54

mean, they should be in, and then we have

1:14:56

to remind ourselves, oh no, no, it doesn't matter,

1:14:58

it's all stupid bullshit. But there are

1:15:01

guys who every day sit down

1:15:03

and just talk about the Rock and Roll

1:15:05

Hall of Fame to their wife and

1:15:08

are just like constantly like, oh, fucking Iron

1:15:10

Maiden's not even in there. And she's just

1:15:12

like, I don't care. You gotta get a

1:15:14

bunch of things, that's why you got it,

1:15:16

you can't be, you gotta be multifaceted in

1:15:18

the stuff you discuss. You have to be,

1:15:20

if you become just so hyper-focused on that

1:15:22

one thing, then you become insufferable to anybody

1:15:24

who has to spend a considerable amount of

1:15:26

time around you, yeah. No, absolutely. Wait, are

1:15:28

you guys people who care about the Rock

1:15:31

and Roll Hall of Fame? It was unclear.

1:15:33

No, we are not, there are no, one

1:15:37

of the first episodes is Rock and Roll

1:15:39

Guys, and there's this guy, Michael Nolan, too,

1:15:41

we watch videos. I wish I was on

1:15:44

that episode. Yeah, we- We could get the

1:15:46

deck for another, we'll get you on the

1:15:48

Rock episode. It was really interesting. Yeah, we-

1:15:50

Rock and Roll. Crap without rap? Yes,

1:15:53

yeah. Oh, buddy, that's, they

1:15:55

hate rap music so much. Yeah, we

1:15:57

did a Beatles episode with Nate Ruse

1:15:59

from Five. And he's like been

1:16:01

to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and got

1:16:03

to vote in it and like that's sick and like

1:16:05

his his Father-in-law is in foreigner

1:16:07

who's one of the big Bands

1:16:10

that isn't in and should be in So

1:16:13

he was like really kind of he's like

1:16:15

I agree with Michael The

1:16:20

most like cuz me and Chris are like this guy's

1:16:22

a fucking idiot He

1:16:24

sits around all day worrying about things that don't

1:16:26

matter and then Nate's like no, he's kind of

1:16:28

right He's got a point But

1:16:32

uh, yeah, Jack will have you on

1:16:34

because on our patreon we do Multiple

1:16:37

guys in an episode like the rule

1:16:39

is that we do Like

1:16:42

people we've already covered So we talk about

1:16:44

classic rock guys and bowling and magicians and

1:16:46

stuff like that on there So we'll get

1:16:48

you on there so you can talk classic

1:16:51

rock guys with us Excellent

1:16:53

yeah, and no respect no disrespect to

1:16:55

the UFO community I don't want to

1:16:57

I don't know I don't

1:17:00

know they're not going deep enough. That's my

1:17:02

criticism Yeah, like honestly, I don't find them

1:17:04

again Like I said, oh, I

1:17:06

think it's it doesn't some of the stuff

1:17:08

they say sounds crazy And I think it's

1:17:10

always gonna happen. You've got this thing is

1:17:12

like anybody composed some people gonna post crazy

1:17:14

stuff But yeah, it is an interesting thing

1:17:17

to think about it doesn't seem totally crazy,

1:17:20

you know And that

1:17:22

is the snow by the way, I think

1:17:24

that people forget this the show

1:17:26

is goofing on the weirdest guys Yeah,

1:17:29

you know what? I mean? It's we're not

1:17:31

looking for the the a guy

1:17:33

like Jack who thinks about it in a

1:17:35

way That is

1:17:37

interesting We're

1:17:39

looking for guys that are saying you

1:17:41

think in the movie Captain Marvel they

1:17:43

review The Noticing

1:17:50

patterns and signs is always like the a

1:17:53

clue that you should not be taking

1:17:55

the person seriously because like What

1:17:57

is the need for that? Like like it? There's

1:18:00

always this it's predicated

1:18:02

on presumption that like the government must

1:18:04

reveal the secrets like we gotta get

1:18:07

like we gotta tease this out Somehow

1:18:09

yeah, yeah Plot like

1:18:11

we gotta plant some clues because otherwise it'd

1:18:13

be unfair Well

1:18:21

Keep it the first three make

1:18:23

sure it's only diehard fans of

1:18:25

the series really I'm gonna defend

1:18:27

them just a tiny little bit

1:18:29

right now and I don't believe

1:18:31

this stuff I'm telling you their

1:18:34

opinion is that if aliens came to

1:18:36

earth right now? We

1:18:39

would be better prepared Because the

1:18:42

government has been preparing us by showing

1:18:44

aliens and movies and that's

1:18:46

like kind of what they're doing now

1:18:48

a lot of time so there's the

1:18:50

other guys who think that

1:18:52

the military is is like

1:18:55

telling us Things

1:18:57

that date like the CIA is putting stuff in

1:18:59

movies that are like we just had to get

1:19:01

the truth out now that To me is a

1:19:04

little that's very that's

1:19:06

stupid. They love getting the truth out Well

1:19:11

Jack tell people where to find you well,

1:19:14

I host a show called other world and

1:19:17

it's available wherever you listen to podcasts,

1:19:19

I suppose and the Instagram

1:19:22

is at other world pod. That's

1:19:24

actually everything at world other world pod and everything. But

1:19:26

yeah, check it out It's uh, that's

1:19:28

my only plug Jack, thank you for

1:19:30

doing this. I Found

1:19:32

you because of a shirt like a long time

1:19:35

ago the Woodstock 99. Oh, and I was a

1:19:39

Collab with online ceramics before they were

1:19:41

famous. Yeah, I was trying to get

1:19:43

my hands on it for a while I don't even

1:19:45

have them anymore Yeah, I I've done

1:19:48

the same thing with like some of the old shirts

1:19:50

from the other shows Like I don't even have any

1:19:52

anymore. I have like one and it's the first shirt

1:19:54

we ever made it is fun Yeah, I mean that's

1:19:56

like it's technically an online ceramic

1:19:58

shirt. I don't know they would like proudly

1:20:03

put it out there anymore. But I did do a me

1:20:05

and Elijah from online ceramics design day. Woodstock

1:20:07

99 shirt. Yeah,

1:20:10

two sided long sleeve. It was pretty

1:20:12

sick. And I was there. So I

1:20:15

really wanted. I really wanted.

1:20:17

Yeah, anything where I ever find some, I'll

1:20:19

send you them. But it was. Thank you.

1:20:22

Well, we'll see you all next week. We don't know

1:20:24

what we're covering, but I'm sure it'll be very funny.

1:20:27

Goodbye. Bye. You guys.