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Music.

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Coming to you live from the Chamber of Haunter Studios, this is Haunting You.

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I'm Jon Shelton. I'm Keone Hutton. And I'm Leslie Reed.

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Welcome back, everyone, to the Haunting You podcast, and happy April!

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Holy crap, I cannot believe it is already April. Does anyone else feel like

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this month, this year, is just freaking flying by?

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Yes, I'm closing the quarter. It's ridiculous. I cannot handle it.

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There's too much going on, and that's probably part of the problem.

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Yeah. A little background for everyone. one like i'm moving

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this summer you're perpetually moving

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i'm perpetually moving and the ship is

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leaving in like two and a

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half weeks roughly and the ship's still broken so like trying to get ready for

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the move while trying to get the ship ready to go i need so question for you

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since you're moving and you are being given a different assignment yes see when

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at what point is the ship ship no longer your problem.

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If everything works out May 20th. That's enough time to drill holes.

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Honestly, with that ship, I don't even think you need to drill.

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You can just kind of like push. Kick it a little. In the words of Jazz, who has done much makeup for us,

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it is the world's most seaworthy cheese grater.

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Like I said, no need to drill. Just kind of lean on it. It's got plenty of holes.

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A good swift kick will do the trick. You know what a bulping hammer is?

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Yes. Yeah, I just take a ball-peen hammer around and start banging on things,

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and we'll find all the holes. Anyway, we're not going to be doing that because she needs to leave in two and

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a half weeks. Fair enough. And then I need to leave in two and a half months.

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But that's it. We'll get there. We will get there. In the meantime,

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April is a super exciting time inside of the haunt industry.

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We've got HauntFest coming up just a few days from now. Next weekend,

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April 6th and 7th, down in Athens, Georgia, Georgia, Hauntfest, April Ghouls.

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Definitely go check it out if you are in the area.

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And then brand new this year, at the end of the month, the East Coast Haunters

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Convention is happening in Oaks, Pennsylvania, April 27th and 28th.

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I don't know how this one's going to go. It's being put on by the same guys who do Transworld.

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I think it's going to be interesting. I so wish I could be there.

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Unfortunately, I'll be in the middle of the ocean, so I can't be there next

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year though, because that's very close to where we'll be in Maryland.

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Fingers are crossed. We'll see what happens. So if you're in the area for either of those, definitely go and check them out.

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But today, we are not talking about either of those conventions.

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We already talked about Haunt Fest. That was our last episode. Hopefully, you went and listened to it.

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We are here to talk about our favorite convention. I'm even wearing the swag

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for it today as we're recording. Fear Expo happening in Owensboro, Kentucky at the Owensboro Convention Center, April 12th to the 14th.

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Holy shit, I'm so excited. Drake.

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I did not get to go to Fear Expo last year. Leslie went in our place this year. I was able to pull it off.

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So I am going to be there all three days on the show floor.

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If you are at Fear Expo, please come see me. Say hello. Pick up a sticker.

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We have the big ones this year. I'm very, very excited. I got larger ones than we have had in the past.

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Because you do you know how i decide like

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what swag to bring i figure out

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what i want and then buy that for for

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everyone else like i needed a bigger sticker for my truck so yeah

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we have bigger stickers this year very excited about that i'm also excited because

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my friends from the candlelighters ghost house are also going to be coming to

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fear expo i convinced them that they need to come to fear expo so that they

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can meet some people and learn some things and And bring all that back to make

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the ghost house awesome next year. So it's going to be a freaking blast in Owensboro, Kentucky,

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just two weeks from now. Holy.

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And to talk about all of that, we have back with us today, Doug Sheldon.

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Welcome to the Haunting You podcast. Well, thank you very much. I definitely was looking forward to this meeting.

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I'm glad we got to get it kicked off. Me too. We are so excited for Fear Expo.

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So I've been seeing all the emails that are coming through to kind of talk about

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the events and everything else that is happening. This schedule is absolutely freaking packed.

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Let's dig into it. Before Fear Expo even kicks off Thursday,

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there is, of course, the Ultimate Haunt Tour.

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We're two weeks out. Are there any tickets left?

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So we were just talking about that this morning. We are at that tipping point

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where we either make a decision to close it or to try and do one more bus.

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Uh-huh. So we had a meeting this morning. We're going to leave it open just

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to see how it goes over the weekend and make a decision on Monday.

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But there is a chance that potentially we are sold out. Yeah, yeah.

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So what I'm hearing is anyone who's listening to this podcast today needs to

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get their name in the hat right now so that you guys see that there's interest.

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Definitely, definitely. Because that's going to make a big decision for us because

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if you jump up to an Airbus, I mean, you obviously don't want a bus going half

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full. Sure, absolutely, absolutely.

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Talk real quick about what people can expect on the Ultimate Haunt Tour in Indiana.

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Where are they where are we adventuring this time around because you've had

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some pretty solid lineups of haunts for the tour you know we're going to keep

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that keep that that trend alive,

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no no pun intended you know

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the cool thing about this year is we grabbed a couple more sponsors who

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wanted to get involved the ultimate haunt tour is really growing to

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be a tour that people are looking forward to and

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i think the reason behind it is not only do we go to great

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haunts haunts we go to all the haunts we're just

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going to pick a few that you know are top

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name reckoning recognized we want to pick haunts that maybe you haven't heard

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of you know haunts that are coming out that are brand new this year like the

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first one on the tour of midsville nightmare factory that one's not even open

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yet and we're gonna go visit them they're like what i said yeah we're We're going to be there.

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So the next one is a bait door. And I hope I'm saying that right. Abattoir.

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Thank you. Abattoir. You are the first one who told me that.

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So now, and if you're wrong, you just messed me up for the next two weeks,

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but a bet avatar. Abattoir. Yeah.

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No, I have not. Just,

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I have lots of random knowledge. She speaks in multiple languages.

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Right. I just assume she's got it right.

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I was going to say, I trust that. So I can almost guarantee you that 90% of the people,

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if not 95% of the people who have heard this podcast or any other podcast or

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anything going on with the Ultimate Haunt Tour have not been to that haunt yet.

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That's what's exciting about it. There is so many hidden gems out there in our

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country, and I really feel like it is one of them.

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I think people are going to be extremely happy that we added this to the Ultimate Haunt Tour.

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And once again, I was talking a little bit about sponsors. So before we talk

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about the third haunt, VFX and Halloween Shirt Company came back again as sponsors

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for the Ultimate Haunt Tour. But we brought some friends with um cfx and

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haunt pay both jumped on board as sponsors for

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the ultimate on tour this time awesome lots of fun things going on but right

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after we leave go ahead and say the name leslie again abattoir which means slaughterhouse

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oh is that what it means so fancy for that public slaughterhouse for cattle

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sheep etc mostly used in the early 19th century

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there we go yeah she is like of

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course leslie knows that so we're gonna

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head up to shattered nightmare that's gonna be fun i have not been to that haunt

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yet either have any of you guys no i've never been to indiana except like driving

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through all my cross-country trips so these are all new to for me oh this is

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gonna be fun for you then are you guys going on a haunt

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tour i didn't even see whether you guys are on there i'm not getting

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in until like 8 p.m thursday night so i'm not

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even gonna make it okay okay so the

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cool thing about this haunt tour is not only do we go to five really really

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good haunts we actually this haunt tour is so big that we actually travel through

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time zones i like that that's a cool that's a cool fact in the haunt tour that

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That actually travels through the time. And if we could have done it a couple of days earlier, maybe we could have done

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it during a solar eclipse. Because all these haunts. Oh, that would have been cool.

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All these haunts are. Here's another fun fact for Leslie.

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All these haunts are located within the 100 percentile of the solar eclipse.

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Oh, my God. Holy moly. That's pretty good.

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So there's a cool little fun fact. I wish I could have got that out sooner. Yeah, seriously.

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And then after that, we are going to Indiana, excuse me, Indianapolis,

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and we're going to visit Necropolis Underground.

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I have been to that haunt before.

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It blows, I mean, blows you away. Yeah.

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I have seen video. I have heard all kinds of stories coming out of Necropolis. It looks phenomenal.

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Yeah, it is definitely a great, great haunt to go to.

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I'm excited that it's on the Haunt Tour. And then, of course,

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we are going to finish it up with the anchor of the tour.

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The one that most people are super excited about going to see,

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Nightmare on Edgewood. Kevin Pass.

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His haunt is, I mean, people, I know people who travel during the regular season

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to go to that haunt and wait a night. They've won multiple awards. It's going to be, it's going to be a lot of fun.

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So we're finish up the tour there.

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And then we head back to Owenborough to get kicked off for Friday and the beer expo.

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Love it. So listeners, if any of you are interested in trying to squeeze into

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one of the last seats on the ultimate haunt tour, you need to go to ultimate

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haunt tour.com like right now, as you're listening to the podcast and get your name on the list.

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Well, and I want to say one more thing for those of you who

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are thinking you know what what's the

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ultimate haunt tour all about we brought this

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when we were first negotiating about

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haunt con and talking to them and they

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had the haunt tours we said that we

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were willing to get involved and take over excuse me

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the haunt tours but the key for us was

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it had to be about the haunts we make sure that

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that every penny that's brought in takes care goes

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directly towards the travel the food

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that you're going to eat and then the rest of it goes to the haunts we do

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not make money off from these tours everything is given

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back to the haunts because during this time of the year i mean those haunts

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need that extra money to it's a tough time yeah yeah and so when you're supporting

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the ultimate haunt tour you're not supporting fear expo you're not supporting

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hong kong i mean what What you're supporting is these haunts on this tour.

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And, you know, just to kind of put a staple on that, you got a pretty big support

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coming up in November in Alabama.

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Ultimate Haunt Tour will be visiting 10 haunts in three days. Holy moly!

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So make sure you go to the ultimatehaunttour.com. We've already got the names

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of the 10 haunts in there. And I will be the, if you can get on bus one, which means you have to be the

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first 50 people to buy tickets, I will be your coach.

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So I actually will be on bus one for the first time. I've never been on one

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of our tours. Yeah. Yeah. No. What does a hunt tour cost? That one's $385. The one in Indiana is $235.

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Beautiful. Go check it out, people. Because time is running out.

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Definitely. We're already planning 2025 hunt tour.

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I love it. I love it. That is Thursday night. And then Fear Expo itself.

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Excuse me. That's Thursday. Not just the night. Most of Thursday.

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But then Fear Expo itself actually kicks off Friday morning.

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With one of my favorite parts of Fear Expo, the networking event.

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And actually just before that, though, it kicks off with our networking breakfast.

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So a new sponsor this year, a new attitude, FIBO is the sponsor for the VIP day.

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So Friday is the FIBO Friday VIP day. Nice.

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And we're going to start out with a breakfast. So if you can show up between

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7 and 830, you can have breakfast on us.

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If you have a VIP ticket and that's the first opportunity to meet people,

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we will have the bar open with the Bloody Marys and, you know,

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all the cool little breakfast drinks that you can get. What's the orange juice in? Mimosa.

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Mimosa. Yeah, that's my go-to. So make sure you show up between 7 and 8.30 to take part in the breakfast.

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And then, like you said, we are going to do the networking speed dating vendor and haunt owner.

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And this is happening early this time because a lot of people love the fact

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that we did it but they hated that we did it after the show floor yeah they

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really wanted to have an opportunity to meet everyone and then go to the show

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floor and see their booth and and i think that's genius.

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Because that's exactly what i was doing when i went can you guys hear me okay

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because i just got a weird buzz i can hear you fine yeah me too that was what

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i was doing when i went on Now you're buzzing.

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Now you're buzzing. Oh, yeah. Now you're all weirdos. I think you just can't prove to us that he heard it. Yeah, it's better. Yeah. Weird.

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So you're buzzing with us like this, but we hear you fine. And then you flip

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it and we hear you buzzing and you hear fine. Brilliant. That'll be helpful.

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So that's what I was doing when I went to the speed networking event.

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I made a ton of connections and then went on the show floor and was able to

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talk with them in more detail of all the things they could offer.

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That's correct. Correct. And so that was a suggestion from quite a few people.

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So the speed networking or speed dating, as we like to call it,

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because it feels like speed dating. You sit down, all the hot owners this time get to sit.

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Instead of walking around like they do on the show floor, vendors are moving

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from table to table and they have 30 seconds to give their best elevator pitch

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on why I should network with you. Exactly.

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And then every three minutes, we pick one vendor. They're typically the one

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who's the slowest and doesn't like to sit down very quickly to stand up in the

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middle and give an elevator pitch to the entire group all at once. So it's a lot of fun.

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We've got prizes this time. I've got a blow horn. We've got the big clock on the wall.

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We've got a big timer. So we're ready for this one.

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Alicia from Scared of My Shadow is going to be the host helping me get this taken care of.

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And I might even throw the reins over to her and I might take part in this event

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this time. But that is from 9 until...

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I think yeah nine until noon thank

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you yeah got the whole morning blocked out for it yeah it's definitely

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a lot of fun um we're gonna have a lot of tables so we're

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gonna need a lot of time to get through everyone yeah yeah after

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so that takes us all the way up to lunchtime and it

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sounds like you have something very special planned for lunch stan winston

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is the sponsor of the new artist mixer

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luncheon that we're going to be doing so we're doing

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a kentucky bourbon burger bar whole little plates

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and you get to go and you know grab your burger and

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grab some other little munchies to go along with it

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and walk around network with everyone grab a drink this one this time it might

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go to a little bit more of an afternoon type bar with some afternoon drinks

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and head over to where we have some artists doing their thing whether they're

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sculptors or whether Whether they're painters,

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you're going to be able to get an opportunity to see the work they do,

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get to know them, grab a card, and hopefully hire them to do a project at your attraction.

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Or if you're a vendor, an opportunity to maybe include them in some of the work you do as a vendor.

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So the networking, just the morning networking is going to be invaluable. It's going to be so cool.

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Absolutely. Absolutely. Les, do you want to take the afternoon?

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Sure. What are we doing in the afternoon? Let me go look at the notes. Ha ha.

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I got stuck on the show floor map.

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There we go. That's where we're going next, too. Yep. So...

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Friday night. Nope, not nighttime. That's not, you gotta go to two o'clock. Two o'clock.

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Two o'clock to six o'clock. We're gonna go to the show floor.

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Okay. But just for VIPs at this point. Yes, this is the Brutal Rust show floor.

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The show sponsor for the show floor this year is Brutal Rust.

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We are going to open a show floor for all the VIPs. They're gonna get plenty

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of time to walk through from two to six this year.

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So instead of three hours, we gave them four. And this is going to give them

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an opportunity to meet all the vendors they talked to during the speed dating,

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buy the items that they want to purchase,

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and also head to Brew to Rust booth for a drink or two or three.

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Who knows? It all depends on how you're feeling.

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Hey, I don't know if you can tell, there is kind of an overarching continuation

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of events here. I'm sensing a trend.

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We have a bar at everywhere. Someone even joked with me and says, Hey, if I go into the bathroom,

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is the maitre d' going to be in the bathroom? I said, wow, that's something to think about. Yeah. Beer Expo 25.

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To the vendor about maybe special orders about whether you can do different

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colors you know what are some of the things involved in your products and this

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gives you that chance yeah yeah yeah,

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So then, Leslie, in the afternoon.

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So then we go to the dinner and a show.

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Yes. Yes. And this will be the first time this year that we did this kind of

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at Hong Kong where we had a seated dinner and then we had a comedy.

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Well, John did something like that for Fear Expo. And we said,

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you know what? Instead of comedy, let's go with a magician. We brought a magician in all the way from Canada. He's a haunter in Canada.

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And we were like, you know what? This is cool. He was talking about coming to Fear Expo anyways.

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We went back and forth. Willie May is handling all of the entertainment this year.

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He came up with the idea of using this young man as a magician for the show.

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So you're going to have a great sit-down dinner. And on top of that,

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you're going to get an opportunity to watch a magic show from a haunter.

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That sounds like a blast. Who's catering dinner?

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What can we expect who's catering it

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or where's the food coming from oh we're gonna

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be right there at the convention center they have their own catering ah i

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didn't realize the convention center offered that too that's awesome yeah no

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where if you want some you have to show up

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on wednesday if you want some of the barbecue yeah the

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vendor dinner wednesday we

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take and we didn't even talk about that but all the vendors who show

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up on wednesday they all get to the vendors appreciation dinner and

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that's going to be at the moonlight barbecue and that's all

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you can eat barbecue oh man that

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sounds so good it's it's amazing it's one of my favorite things about going

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to owensboro yeah seriously so once the magician is all over with then all hell

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breaks Talk about the hell's a poppin' circus sideshow.

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Yes. I have to be very honest. Until I...

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Until I really read about this company, I had no idea who they were,

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and I never realized how big they are. They travel all over the country.

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They've been doing this for over 20 years.

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And on top of that, they've actually set up at over 3,500 attractions to do

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events during the weekend, during Halloween. Wayne.

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So Hans actually can hire this company to come in and put on a show whether

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it's a small show with one or two other freaks or a big show like what we're

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going to have at Fair Expo. Our show is an hour and a half long.

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Wow. But it's all like circus sideshow acts.

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Yes. Yep. Oh, that sounds awesome. Hanging from hooks, shooting,

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putting a sword down your belly, you know, all those freaky kind of make you go.

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Oh, my gosh. I cannot wait to see it. And all of this is free with the VIP ticket.

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If you have a VIP ticket, everything we talked about is all included.

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We have an agenda for you from the morning you wake up or from the minute you

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wake up to the time it's time to tuck you in.

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So yeah, VIP tickets is a way to go.

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Really, we took the price of the food and we even took a couple bucks off and

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said, hey, we're going to pitch a little in for food. And that's what we charge you. So none of the events, nothing else that's included is being charged.

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You're really just paying for the food. Yeah.

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And it sounds like you limited the number of VIP tickets who were going to be

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available for the show. Accurate? We did. We did.

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We had to make sure that we didn't oversell this for VIP.

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So we had to put a limit on this year to make sure that we had room for everyone. We only have about...

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About 60 more VIP tickets left and we're completely sold out.

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So if you've not got your VIP ticket, you're going to want to do that very soon.

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So what does the VIP ticket cost?

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So the VIP ticket is $150.

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That's it? Yep. And it covers everything. Holy moly. That's amazing.

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Yeah, $150. And actually we had our VIP plus tickets, which even included your

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hotel rooms and included the haunt tour.

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So it was an all-inclusive ticket. ticket.

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We sold out of those because the hotels are both sold out now.

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So that's another thing. If you want to come to fear expo, don't look at the

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hotels directly next to fear expo.

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You're going to have to look at the other ones in Owensboro there.

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I did check this morning and three of the hotels that are within five minutes

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away, all still have a few rooms left.

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So there are rooms. It's just, you're not going to be walking distance.

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You're going to be a little More of a drive. Yeah, drive or Uber.

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But there's free parking at the convention center.

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Yes. And there's a lot of parking available.

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Oh, yeah, plenty. Yep. So we just talked about everything that is available for the VIPs on Friday.

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Not yet. We have one more thing.

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We have Mr. Lugosi. Yes. The muses that's going to be after House of Poppin'.

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So we got a band for you. And this band is amazing.

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They are pumped. They are 100% in the genre for Halloween, for haunted attractions.

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I mean, they basically were begging us to come to the show because they are

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so excited about everyone that we have involved.

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They love How's It Poppin'. So this band is going to bring it.

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I mean, directly after How's It Poppin' gets over, we're going to bring you

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over to the East Ballroom. Room the band's going to be set up and you're going to be able to

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rock with the band they're going to do an hour show to your

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standing room i mean we're it's going to be a

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lot of fun so make sure that um

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you get plenty as well if you're on the haunt tour i guess you won't get plenty

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of sleep you uh you take a lot of energy pills yeah i say just just for friday

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you know welcome breakfast starts at 7 a.m and you guys have activities you

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know completely all the way up to midnight on Friday night.

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So yeah, definitely something, you know, plan ahead, make sure you catch up

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on your sleep in advance and have some time the next week to catch up again.

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And I think, you know, there's, I've had a lot of people and I've done a lot of these interviews.

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And one of the questions everyone keeps asking me is, you know,

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you guys are a trade show, but what really makes you guys different from some

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of the other trade shows? And I think the fact that we are agenda driven.

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We want to give you something to do from the moment you get there to the time that you leave.

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We want to make sure that it's an experience for you.

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Fear Expo has always been about the experience. And every year we just kind

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of update experience just a little bit more. Yeah, seriously.

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I think it's beneficial too, because you go to a trade show,

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you walk there's not a lot of, you know, dedicated opportunities to...

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Talk to these hot owners, talk to these vendors outside of the trade show.

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So you're pretty much just relying on a massive room with a million people wandering

26:19

around to try and get information, make your sales on both sides of the equation.

26:24

Whereas with what we have here, especially with the VIP, you have the ability

26:29

to really get to know the people that are there.

26:32

And then you can go through, do your purchases, do your orders,

26:36

make those connections, do your networking, But you're given an opportunity

26:39

and a situation where it's designed to do that first and then you do your purchasing.

26:48

Exactly. Yeah. You're making personal connections with these companies.

26:51

You're not just a buyer. You're making that connection.

26:56

Part of the family. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah.

26:59

And I think there's going to be a little bit of difference.

27:02

We did have some people, well, your VIP was 65 last year and it's 150 this year.

27:08

Well last year was the first year that we

27:10

kind of knew what we wanted to do but we didn't want

27:13

to get all the way to where we needed to be yeah

27:16

i don't think as far as money wise i just meant as far as

27:19

the experience sure we had to get to a

27:22

certain point of what where the

27:25

show's going to grow to be and this show you know i

27:28

think if if you remember back three years ago when i first

27:30

started talking to you about fear expo i said that it's

27:33

going to be about the experience it's going going to be a vip show now

27:37

don't get me wrong saturday and we

27:40

still have a lot of stuff to do for the general admission and that's

27:43

what we didn't touch on friday yeah that's exactly where we

27:46

want to go next yep as the general mission so we can talk about that right now

27:49

if you want yeah and that's what i was going to say like the we've talked about

27:53

everything that the vips have available to them but there's more that will be

27:58

accessible for anyone who buys even just the the general admission ticket starting

28:02

at noon on Friday. So what's happening?

28:05

So starting at noon on Friday, not only will we have the VIP events going on,

28:11

and I don't want to say only the general admission people can go to the classes.

28:16

If you see a class you really want to go to and you want to jump out of the

28:19

VIP event to go take a class, you can, because there's some really good classes.

28:24

We have two rooms on Friday running at the same time.

28:27

Emily Bloom starts off at noon yes she's doing

28:30

makeup room management oh that's that's

28:34

that's a that's a necessary class because that's a lot of

28:38

that's a lot of pieces you know to to do especially if you're running more than

28:41

a handful of people in a haunt and emily bloom has ran quite a few different

28:47

makeup rooms so she knows what she's doing she knows what she's talking about

28:50

that is a great class so that's where where we started off at noon in room two,

28:55

Kelsey Living's good is going to be talking about how indie film acting and

29:01

haunt acting coincide, how you can go from being a haunt actor to the indie film industry.

29:08

This was something that I, you really focused on at first.

29:12

Haunt con down in florida but so i'm

29:15

glad to see bringing some of that into fear expo as well yeah it's

29:19

it's exciting that kelsey's going to be there and it's definitely a class

29:22

you're going to want to take if you're an actor and interested in doing any

29:25

type of indie film acting and then morgan spencer at 115 is going to do haunt

29:33

makeup 101 uh talking about the basics you know what are They're the things

29:38

that every haunt makeup artist should know.

29:40

Everything from making veins to putting on the correct layers.

29:44

I'm not a makeup artist at all, but that's definitely something you're going to want to check out.

29:50

On Friday in room two is Joshua Overturn.

29:55

He's from CFX 115. Silicone masks.

30:00

Silicone 101. Talking about masks. Excellent.

30:04

So that's going to be really cool to see Joshua in there.

30:07

Teaching from cfx and then go back

30:10

to room one at 2 30 you have

30:13

richard kumo richard has been to

30:16

every fear expo plus honk-honk teaching

30:19

classes he is always killing it one of the best one of the best classes i go

30:26

to and he's going to talk about fast painting techniques how to make that wood

30:31

grain look i'm using tools and tricks for any type of facade painting so So this is more of a,

30:39

it's not so much the paint for the body.

30:42

You know, we're not talking about makeup here. We're talking about set design. Set design. Thank you.

30:48

Yeah. And if he can do it. And again, the, the.

30:52

We always want to put so much detail into our haunts, but that also can take

30:56

so much time that none of us have.

30:58

So having that ability to learn, how do you do this quickly? What are the tools?

31:02

What are the tricks? You know, how can you use something in a manner that it's

31:05

not exactly intended for, but be really, really successful in getting the facade that you want to see?

31:11

Exactly. And then room two, Jason Thomas, he is a brand new instructor to us,

31:22

but he's been teaching for a long time. And he is also from the indie horror side.

31:27

He's coming in to talk about taking your haunt to the next level.

31:32

Everything from how you should be advertising your haunt,

31:36

how you should be promoting your haunt, different scares that

31:39

you could be using the the looking at

31:42

your haunt he says looking at your haunt from a thousand feet

31:45

in the air and not just being down

31:48

into the the basics but looking at

31:51

it and saying and seeing what other people see yeah so

31:54

that's going to be a great class very excited he's

31:57

teaching that class and then at 345 we got

32:00

the master michael green michael is

32:03

the master of body painting michael green i mean here beyond the show floor

32:08

all days for teaching in his booth and given him are given all kinds of lessons

32:15

on body painting but here's a chance you get for mastering the airbrush for makeup and fx.

32:21

And then Brian Wilkins is going to do some scare actor training in room two at 345.

32:27

He said, make sure that you do your stretches before his class.

32:32

And you get involved in pretty cool scare acting.

32:35

So if you are not involved in the VIP, you still have a reason to be there Friday.

32:42

These classes are great. I know for a fact, I, as an owner, would probably send my GM to half these classes.

32:50

And I go to the other half because there are some really good classes here.

32:54

And we talked about this earlier, but like one price, all the classes are included.

32:58

There's no additional cost for any of these classes, except for,

33:01

you know, the few make and takes where you actually get to bring something home

33:03

and you have to pay for the materials. We didn't do make and takes this time. No make and takes this time.

33:07

No make and takes. We wanted it to be all free classes.

33:10

It was too confusing with the make and takes, so we just took them off.

33:14

Fair, fair. So you pay one price and you can attend any of the classes,

33:18

get all of these skills, build up your own skill set. So yeah.

33:22

And so that shows you there's a lot more to do. Now, also, if you have a general

33:25

admission ticket, you are invited to go to House of Poppin and the concert afterwards.

33:32

It's just a $25 additional ticket price to go to House of Poppin. That's not bad.

33:36

Which is, I mean, they sell tickets for $60. Yeah.

33:40

So. Seriously. So Friday night, excuse me, Friday, the entirety of Friday, Friday,

33:47

absolutely packed with opportunities for you to get out there and network,

33:51

get out there, get some new skills. And for the VIPs, checking out the show floor early, getting those orders in

33:58

that first day before the show floor gets absolutely crazy on Saturday.

34:04

Before we jump into Saturday, let's take a moment to hear from our sponsors and then.

34:08

Music.

34:25

Let's talk Saturday. Wow. Saturday, be ready because the Hauntmaster classes

34:33

start at 8 a.m. Again, we're running two rooms again.

34:37

I'm just going to name them really quick, if that's okay. Yeah, absolutely.

34:41

I'm not going to talk a lot, but make sure you go to peerexpolive.com.

34:46

Go to seminars and check out all the classes. We have Mitch Milton,

34:49

David Quinn, Crest Winchester, Slider Jesus, Richard Kumo, Jason Thomas,

34:57

Jordue Shale is coming in to teach a class,

35:01

Catherine Craig, Justin Hill, Leonard Pickle, Katie Brito, David Frayer.

35:11

I can never say his last name right. Frayer?

35:14

Frayer, yeah. Hold on. Give me a second.

35:18

I gotta get to the right page and i'll let you know.

35:24

The classes are so

35:27

good on saturday you need to check them out but

35:30

then on top of it we have our makeup stage going on all day

35:33

long on the show floor it's brought to you by mile high fx we have wicked fx

35:39

on there at 10 o'clock insane production cnc insane productions doing fire and

35:44

ice body body painting at one at 11 o'clock false creepy corner doing night of neon zombies at 2 PM,

35:53

a bloody good fashion show brought to you by monsters alive,

35:57

FSA design and Brandy beast at four o'clock.

36:01

And then five o'clock is the makeup recovery demo.

36:05

Just, just for Saturday. And those are just classes.

36:10

Yeah. Yeah. And there's a ton more happening Saturday as well.

36:14

Kicking off in the morning once again for

36:17

the vip ticket holders you want breakfast coffee and

36:19

pastries or will be in the vip lounge and not to mention most

36:23

of you who got your hotel rooms they have free breakfast on

36:26

saturday um so double check your hotel room and see but i know the two host

36:30

hotels both have free breakfast and then we have coffee and pastries open till

36:35

11 o'clock in the vip lounge for all of our vips including our vendors and then

36:40

once we clean up the mess from from the pastries and sweep up all the crumbs.

36:45

We're going to go ahead and serve you an Italian pasta lunch. If you're a VIP.

36:51

So the VIPs get to go in there and have a lunch on us. And that includes all of our vendors.

36:56

We always feed our vendors. Really appreciated.

37:01

Much appreciated. And you get plenty of opportunity to walk the show floor.

37:06

There's going to be a lot of great costumes and masks. and the vendors that

37:11

are at the show fuller this year.

37:14

Every year, I just feel so excited about the fact that we have so many great

37:21

people in this industry that support each other.

37:23

And to see the vendors that we have that support Fear Expo, it just really makes

37:31

me really happy to be part of this.

37:34

So I'm not going to go through them all because it would take a while.

37:37

Like you said, there's 120. 120 but brutal rust

37:40

is going to be their purgatory props vfx creates

37:44

916 production brandy b

37:47

cfx you know chaotic creations

37:50

dark creations atx is

37:54

coming out of they haven't done that show in a little while now they're

37:57

coming back fancy pants patches fear

38:00

productions fright bros jellybug ghostly productions

38:04

global special effects haunting you

38:07

is going to be in in the house yeah we are a haunt

38:11

lawyer foam company george duchelle is going to have a booth midnight studios

38:17

malice productions lifeless creations monsters alive mortal remains project

38:24

backfire i am jumping about six people and just quickly saying a name scarecrow creation sapphire,

38:32

Scrappy Costumes, Scurry Face. Slaughterhouse FX, and Steward Designs, and so many more. But that just gives you an idea.

38:41

I mean, it is a cool show floor this year. It really is.

38:44

I'm so excited. I see so many of my favorite companies here,

38:47

and many of the Haunting You podcast sponsors are on here as well.

38:51

We have great partnership with Purgatory Props and with Cython.

38:55

VFX is, of course, one of my favorite companies. I have several of their,

38:58

so many of their props now. I love them. Oh my God. I love them.

39:03

CFX Tabitha and Josh are just such great people to talk to.

39:06

No, so knowledgeable about the masks and they're, they had, do they do demos

39:12

on the show floor showing how all their products can work?

39:14

And it is so freaking cool. Yeah.

39:19

It's going to be fun. It's going to be so much fun. I mean, how do you even

39:23

get to like everybody who is out there on the show floor?

39:26

There's so many awesome vendors to, uh,

39:29

to stop by i don't know i'm gonna be busy

39:32

that's why we say that basically

39:36

from the time you show up at fair expo to the time you

39:39

leave we've got something planned for you yeah you

39:42

should not be hungry you should not be thirsty and you

39:44

should not be bored there's just

39:49

something for you to do the whole time whether you're a vip or

39:53

general mission either way there's a lot of

39:56

action going going on good thing the show floor is open from

39:58

10 to 5 because we're going to need every minute of that to to

40:01

get through it all and then once we can get the

40:04

show floor closed up we're going to head upstairs and we're going to give away our

40:07

fear expo vendor awards everyone's welcome to come up and see which vendors

40:11

won awards again this year it's been a lot of fun doing these vendor awards

40:16

and the honkron one we just had vfx is a two-time winner so we have to see If

40:22

they end up pulling out a three-peat,

40:25

a cat trick, as you might call it.

40:29

And then once the awards is over with, head back to your hotel,

40:34

get your scariest circus costume on.

40:38

I'm really, really excited about the theme that Blooms FX came up with for this one, the circus idea.

40:45

There are just so many ways you can go. You can do the freak show.

40:49

You can do the stitch clowns. i mean there's a

40:52

lot of ideas here for a circus and i

40:56

you you talked a bit about like

40:59

the costume contest for haunt con anything similar

41:03

happening here at fear expo yes circus they have

41:07

a costume contest with lots and lots of

41:09

prizes um i believe they're all on the website i don't

41:13

know all the prizes i do know there's some really good ones though and once

41:17

again excuse me blooms fx is still looking for some donations if anyone wants

41:23

to donate anything towards the costume ball for the prizes but yes they're going

41:27

to be giving away some cool prizes for the best costume.

41:31

Pulling a bit pulling it up right now and it's

41:34

absolutely free to go to the costume ball as well

41:37

yep open open it's free we want

41:39

you there yep it says every

41:42

ticketed attendee is eligible to enter the costume contest to win a

41:45

third second or first place prize whether wear your best costume for

41:48

the chance to win so not oh my gosh holy

41:51

i'm looking at the list of who is contributing to

41:54

the prize blue meth x hong kong's doing vip passes

41:57

the holiday inn owensboro riverfront you

42:00

get a free room and breakfast dental distortions through a hundred

42:03

dollar gift card in there neely's whiskey tour

42:06

love that project backfire has

42:08

got a gift basket bloody mary fx 25 gift card

42:12

dark creations a 25 gift card killer stencils pocket patches cff vx cfx vfx

42:19

scream skate spoot teak holy moly it's no scrubs it's a good it's a good deal

42:27

it's a great deal absolutely Absolutely freaking love it.

42:31

And that ends at midnight. So two nights in a row, we got you out to midnight.

42:35

Going to midnight every night. There's time to sleep later. Sleep when you get back. I don't think the long tour is three nights.

42:44

Yeah, yeah, exactly. But I mean, stuff is kicking off bright and early Sunday

42:48

morning again, aren't they? We've got classes starting at eight o'clock. Eight o'clock classes again.

42:54

And believe it or not, people will be there at eight o'clock to go to those. There always are.

42:59

Oh, yeah. And for good reason as well. Like we've got, let me pull this up a

43:04

little bit bigger so I can read it better. Justin Hill doing distressed costumes to die for in room one.

43:09

Jim Candelaria doing animatronics. How do they work?

43:12

Your basic animatronics class, 8 a.m. on Sunday morning. So great reason to get out of bed.

43:19

Yeah. And we've got even more classes after that.

43:22

What are some of the other ones? I see Leonard Pickles teaching a class,

43:25

Haunt Design Do's and Don'ts. I have taken that class the previous years and learned so much.

43:30

It is a phenomenal class for doing room design and haunt design.

43:35

And if you've seen it once, go see it again because you're going to pick up

43:38

something new. Absolutely. Absolutely.

43:42

Rob O'Brien, you stink. How to care for your costumes. Oh, that's an important one.

43:50

Underrated, but important. Oh, but this, this is the one that I really want

43:53

to go to. David Quinn is teaching a stilt walking class.

43:56

I got into stilt walking a year, a couple.

44:00

Heck, has it been two years now? It just started, but I want to hear from the

44:03

expert because I'm just, you know, trying to teach myself and let's just say it's painful.

44:09

You're just starting out to hurt yourself. It's painful teaching yourself. yourself michael

44:15

rouse samuel bloon kane walkins nathan alred all

44:18

teaching classes on sunday from between eight

44:21

and one or two and while

44:25

you're sitting in your classes or you're on

44:28

the show floor back at the excuse me i had to switch my screen here real quick

44:35

fear expo is giving away weigh $3,000 in haunt cash for you to go ahead and

44:44

use anywhere in the show floor that you want to.

44:48

That's absolutely insane. How is that going to work?

44:52

Every half an hour, starting at 1030, Fear Expo will draw a name from all of

44:59

the, if you have a pass or excuse me, a general mission or a VIP, you are entered.

45:06

And that That includes all of our vendors and all of our speakers.

45:09

So don't have to do anything extra to enter just by showing up.

45:12

I am automatically entered. All you have to do though, is be there at on Sunday.

45:20

If you leave before Sunday and we call your name, no one wins that prize.

45:25

No one. You're not going to give it to someone else. We don't withdraw.

45:28

We don't withdraw. You gotta be there.

45:31

So this is, this is to mo, I mean, we give people, We actually call people and

45:36

this happened at Hong Kong. We had someone that we drew at 11 o'clock and they were 45 minutes away because

45:42

they had just left and they turned around and came back.

45:47

I mean, I would. Yeah, right. Yeah.

45:51

Where will the giveaway be happening? On the show floor? On the show floor,

45:54

but we will be announcing it in all the rooms as well.

45:56

So if you're in classes, you'll still be able to hear it. But plan on staying

46:00

through Sunday because we are going to give away $500 every half an hour that

46:04

you can use on the show floor. And it includes all of our speakers. All of our employees are actually allowed to be part of this.

46:13

It's a big reward for everyone who is part of Fear Expo.

46:18

I love it. Absolutely love it. and I have already got some plans in the back

46:23

of my mind for what I would use that for. I am so lucky.

46:27

I am very sorry, Deano, but the bar does not take the money. Dang it.

46:35

Back to the drawing board. Get out of my head, Doug. How do you know?

46:41

We also have the scavenger hunt going on Friday through Sunday too.

46:46

Yes, talk. I saw that on the website. side tell what is

46:49

happening with the scavenger hunt i'm i'm not familiar with this so this

46:53

is brought to you by one of our and

46:57

for some reason the link's not working here so it's

47:00

actually brought to us by one of our vendors and now

47:04

you're gonna the link's not working and i can't

47:06

figure out why if it works for me no same

47:09

thing is it working it's not working for you right now too i need

47:13

to go to a different screen and

47:16

see if it worked real quick but anyways so they're going to to have a scavenger hunt

47:19

on the show floor you're going to be able to go to one of the vendors it will be

47:22

in your welcome package and it's also an email that's going out and they've

47:26

got all kinds of prizes lined up that they've gotten from different vendors

47:30

on the show floor and you're be able to do an actual scavenger hunt on your

47:35

phone to find certain hidden gems that are there,

47:39

on the show floor maybe in one of the classes and then the people who find the

47:44

items end up winning winning different prizes.

47:47

And I don't have all that information, but you will have it in your vendors

47:53

pack or in your attendees package.

47:55

And hopefully shortly after we finish recording this, the website will get fixed

47:59

magically and we'll be able to access it there. There's a text going out right now.

48:08

So just an absolutely action-packed weekend from Thursday all the way till the

48:13

show floor closes on Sunday, 2 o'clock, you have no excuse to not have something

48:19

to do because there is just so much going on over the course of these four days.

48:23

So let's talk logistics real quick. We already talked. General admission tickets are $25.

48:28

You have the VIP tickets, only about 60 tickets left if you want to try to jump

48:33

in on the VIP. Robert Leonard,

48:36

We talked a little bit about hotels. It sounds like the hotels closest to the

48:40

convention center are already sold out, but there are plenty of opportunities

48:43

still in the city of Owensboro. So you can check out one of the other hotels nearby.

48:48

How do you get to Fear Expo? What are the easiest ways? ways?

48:53

So the way that we set fear expo up is that it's, it's a basically six hour

49:00

drive from anywhere in, you know, the whole central part of the country.

49:07

So like even Michigan, you're six hours away, Florida, you're six hours away,

49:10

Pennsylvania, you're six hours away. So a lot of people drive to fear expo on the borough of Kentucky,

49:17

just outside of Louisville, south of Indianapolis, just to the west of St. Louis.

49:23

I mean, it's in the, it's in the heart of the heartlands.

49:27

So driving is always a possibility. Obviously Google, you know,

49:31

fear expo, the, if you're going to fly into fear expo, I do know there's some

49:36

delays this year because of the solar eclipse.

49:39

There have been interesting things going on with that, but flying into Louisville

49:44

or flying Flying into Evansville is is a good thought.

49:48

You can check and see if there's planes going into Owensboro,

49:51

but I know a lot of times this late in the game, it's going to be a couple could be a big delay.

49:56

Yeah, I had a hard time finding flights direct to Owensboro. So Louisville for me.

49:59

Yeah, going to Louisville. The other thing you can do is fly into St. Louis.

50:03

And I know St. Louis has a direct flight to Owensboro to that's another way to do it.

50:07

Go to our website. If you go to fear expo.com. We figured all this out and you

50:13

go to travel hotels, everything's on there.

50:16

It's there's no guessing. There's no, you know, we've even got Airbnb on there.

50:20

We've got everything. Yeah. Check it out.

50:22

Fear expo live.com has just a ton of information, even like information about

50:28

Owensboro itself, things to do best places to eat or drink local events that

50:32

they've got going on outside of fear expo. Just a ton of information can be found right there on the website. Exactly.

50:41

I pressed buttons and it won't close. There we go. Les, what did we miss?

50:46

I mean, probably a lot just because there's so much going on.

50:50

But with that said, I think we hit all the big pieces. Are there any,

50:54

is the show floor booked? Are there any places available for vendors if they still want to try to get in?

51:00

You know, I would still send me something because you never know if something might change.

51:05

But we've been sold out for about a month now. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

51:08

No, that's a good sign for all the attendees, at least. And vendors if you're interested uh there's always fear expo 25 keep it in mind plan ahead,

51:19

plan ahead exactly okay doug yes what is the one thing more than anything else

51:25

that you want our listeners to remember about fear expo before we let you go

51:29

the one thing i want you to remember about it yeah they remember nothing else

51:34

when they stop listening to this podcast what do you you want that to be?

51:38

I think the most important thing for people to take away from Fear Expo this

51:44

year is the growth of our industry and how you're going to see new vendors there.

51:49

You're going to see some great vendors that have been around for a long time.

51:52

The education, the people who are giving so much back to help train and help

51:58

support each other in this industry. I don't think you see that as much at some other places, but at Fear Expo,

52:05

you can really see that people really give back.

52:08

And we're going to continue to grow Fear Expo because of the fact that we have

52:12

so many great vendors and speakers and attendees.

52:16

So at the end of the day, I want you, if I can leave you with one word for Fear

52:22

Expo, it's going to be is experience. I want you to really enjoy Enjoy the experience that you're going to have.

52:29

Absolutely. And I am so looking forward to the experience.

52:34

So, Doug, thank you so much for taking the time out to talk about Fear Expo.

52:38

Fear Expo is happening at the Owensboro Convention Center in Owensboro,

52:41

Kentucky, April 12th to the 14th, 11th, if you're going to make it in for the Ultimate Haunt Tour.

52:46

I hope to see you all there. Booth 707 is where the Haunting You podcast will be stationed.

52:51

Right next to the Big Scary Show. Right next to the Big Scary Show. There you go.

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Oh, we can find you a better place. I'm so sorry.

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I got to tell a quick story. I'm hoping Drew Badger is the one who will be coming

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because I accidentally slighted him when I was at Midsummer Scream last summer.

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He gave me a lead. I had to go talk to Spencer Terry, president of the Hunter

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Attraction Association, and forgot to come back and do an interview with him.

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So I'm hoping to rectify that during Fear Expo this year.

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Ha ha ha! Yeah, I think, I think it is true, but I don't know. It might be, I don't know.

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I actually think it is true, but we'll find out for sure. Really soon. Yeah, exactly.

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Exactly. It'll be a good surprise when I get there.

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So Doug, thank you so much for taking the time out and I can't wait to see you at fear expo. All right.

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I appreciate you having me on here. And Leslie, thank you for being the smartest person in the room.

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Someone's got to be because it's not going to be me. She usually is.

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Glad I could help. And John, it was great talking with you as well.

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Thanks, Doug. Holy shit, I am so excited to go to Fear Expo. Drink.

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I was waiting for that. Has it, like, has me saying I'm excited lost all meaning yet?

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50-50. It's still a reason to drink. It's still a reason to drink.

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So there is joy involved. There is definitely joy involved.

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So I mentioned Hunting You podcast will be at booth 707. I will be there.

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Please come see me so that I'm not lonely.

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I thrive on getting to meet everybody.

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If I'm not at the booth, look for the sign. There's a good chance I am somewhere

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on the show floor interviewing some of the amazing vendors showing off their

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products and hopefully bringing all of that to you.

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If you cannot make it to Fear Expo,

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definitely go check out all of our socials, facebook.com slash haunting you, just the letter U,

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at Haunting You for YouTube, at hunting university for instagram that is where

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we'll be posting all of the media that is coming out of the show so if you can't

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make it to the show definitely go follow all of our socials so that you can

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see it there are you bringing an extra bag for swag and such i'm so.

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I'm so annoyed like i have to be detecting no no no it's okay i have to fly

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normally i would drive to a convention so that i can bring back space so i have

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plenty of space to bring stuff but like,

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i'm trying to figure out right now how i can get all of the like audio equipment

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i need in order to do the live broadcast from the show floor at fear expo because

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that is going to happen I haven't figured out how yet, but it's going to happen.

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But I have to bring all of that, which means I am very limited on what I can

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bring back and I'm not okay with it. So maybe some of them can ship it to you as well.

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There is certainly that. If I do larger purchases, most vendors are willing to ship. They will ship.

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But here's the thing. I'm moving. So where do I ship it to?

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If it shows up between

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or actually you know we'll be swinging through Colorado so maybe I just ship

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it to you guys and then I can pick it up there on the way oh I'm not a responsible

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person I know you're not I wasn't I was not looking at you when I said you guys

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I was definitely looking at Leslie I mean you technically you are looking at me,

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yeah he who doesn't have his camera on. I have discussed this my son likes to tackle the arrangement I know.

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I want to watch that. I don't see it as a problem. I don't either.

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I mean, in the middle of a podcast with a guest on, it's just like,

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so Doug, it's a haunting podcast.

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I don't think anybody's going to notice. People would love it.

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It fits perfectly within the genre. And besides, if that were to happen, then I could take the video from this,

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just cut to just that and put that on our social media.

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People would eat that up. They would love it.

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Speaking of going viral, but it is.

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I sent you the picture yesterday while I'm typing an email. I'm being choked.

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It is what it is. Joy's a parent. I do feel bad that you're not going to have...

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You're going to have to fight to have room for the audio equipment and the stuff

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you buy and the stuff you steal. So it's just... No theft. There is no theft.

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Although... You're giving away so much free stuff. What do I need to steal?

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I will say, Simply Pure is right next to where our booth is.

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Go in and say hi to them and see if you can't snag me some great samples of CBD stuff.

57:41

By snag, you mean... Federal agent. CBD, no THC involved.

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Yeah, it doesn't make a difference for me. Really? Yeah.

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Hey, wouldn't it be better if you, instead of purchasing it directly, you could,

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acquire it without going to stab you okay well i know you want to get me kicked

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out of the coast guard i've got six years left we can make six we need the six

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years we can make that let's talk about this.

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Let's talk real quick about kind of where we're going for the rest of the year so we're

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coming up to the end of convention season not actually

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the end of convention season because there are conventions running all the way into july if

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you want to know more about those uh go check out our website look at the events

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page we have everyone that we are aware of listed there but our part of the

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convention season is coming to a close and so we're now really looking ahead

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to to october and what's going to be happening so in our so upcoming on the

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hunting you podcast next, our next episode will of course be the live broadcast from fear expo we'll have that out,

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We'll do it Sunday of Fear Expo. I'm looking at you guys because I hadn't actually

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talked to you about this yet. Sunday is what I was thinking. I'm open to Saturday, but I think Saturday will

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be busy. Yeah. Let me know what your schedules look like and we'll make it work.

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So we're doing that. May, we have a special guest on from the Candlelighters

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who is talking about what they're going to be doing this year.

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And we're going to do some brainstorming with them. And then June,

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hopefully, if everything works out nicely,

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maybe we'll be able to all get ourselves together in a room and do a live from

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Leslie's living room type of podcast for June.

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That one will definitely not be out June 1st, but during June,

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we will put that out as we plan for what the Sanguine Creek Estates will look like for 2024.

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So, lots of exciting things coming up in the next few months.

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Go check out the socials, subscribe to the podcast, and leave us a rating on

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whatever app you use, because that helps other people find the podcast as well.

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It does. It gives it a little boost. So, if you want other people to find it, absolutely.

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Yes. And we'd love to hear from you and what you think of the podcast and what

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we're doing. And give us ideas on what type of content you would like to hear.

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We want all of that feedback to make this as useful as possible for our listeners.

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If you also enjoy the pure sport of thievery, put that on review. Let us know.

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You don't even have to steal the podcast. It's free anyway.

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I mean, just, you know, maybe theft enthusiasts.

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You mean pirates? Pirate. If you're a pirate, we're perfect for you.

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Okay, you have to understand, that encourages me way more than this way of thinking.

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If anything, you just made it cooler.

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Yeah, I knew it as soon as it left my mouth. Piracy. I like it. All right. I think we wrap it up. Let's leave it at piracy.

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We can't go any better than that. So we'll just drop it at piracy. Let's take us out.

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All righty. And thank you for all that. It was great to speak to Doug and hear

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all about what's coming up with Fear Expo in April.

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And thank you all for listening. And thank you to our sponsors.

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And we're going to call it a day. So for everyone, happy haunting.

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